How To Use Octodomes/Octo Boxes For Beginners: A Lighting Tutorial
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How To Use Octodomes/Octo Boxes For Beginners: A Photo Lighting Tutorial
By Jay P. Morgan
In this Slanted Lens lesson we are going to take an in-depth look at 8 sided soft boxes or Octodomes. Each manufacturer has its own name; Octobox, OctaBox, Octa Softbox, Octa Bank, or Octodomes. I used Photoflex Octodomes to make all of the comparisons and demonstrations for this video so that will be our reference point www.photoflex.com.
I wanted to explore what makes an Octodome different from a Soft Box. What is the area of coverage and quality of light. We put them through the riggers to answer these questions and ended the lesson with a few simple 2 light set-ups using Octodomes. I gained a better understanding about their place in my lighting arsenal and when they are better to use than soft boxes. Keep those cameras rolling and keep on click-in!
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Thank you, you are so helpful and have no wasted words or time in your videos.
Thank you.
Just ordered myself an octobox so this was a great video to see the differences in sizes and compared to the traditional square softbox.
Great job and thanks
Loved this video and tutorial. People commenting below are nitpicking at wasted flour and butter and you moving too fast for them (gee...it IS a video you can pause). Loved the last part too. Keep it up! Informative, well-edited, and made me smile. :)
Awesome content. I've learned so much just by watching two of your videos
Great to hear! You might like our Laws of Light series: th-cam.com/users/TheSlantedLenssearch?view_as=subscriber&query=laws+of+light
Better late than never. This is the video I needed before I bought my Octa (in 2020!)
Glad you are finding the information helpful.
"Stunning" I learned way more than I hoped. Thank you :)
Thank you for watching! Check out our newest lighting video here: th-cam.com/video/FPfH3M--224/w-d-xo.html
You need to release "Cooking with your Camera" as a separate feature! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Very good video! To the point, shows many variables and their effects, and explains everything.
Nice tutorial about using light in fashion photography.
We use Tamron lenses on the 7D. I am very excited to get the new SP 24-70mm F/2.8 Di VC USD (Model A007) for the 5D. You will see that in action soon.
Sir, you are a master piece of lighting techniques... The way u teach made me bought my first light.
I have bought an ad200 pro from godox and an octabox with grid setup. Let's see I how use it.
Although I am craving to be around you and gather that ocean of knowledge and experience...
Not as strange as how some people feel the need to put down things when they could simply move on. If what you said is true...that that is all you learned then you weren't paying attention. And SlantedLens has a great idea...let's see what you've done. Dazzle us.
All very professional and many very useful insights., Thank for posting :)
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching!
Great video with practical demonstrations! Keep your awesome videos coming.
First, you guys are the most professional, knowledgeable, and best teachers on You Tube! Secondly, you guys have WAAAY too much free time! I'm referring to Cooking with Your Camera! That was genius! Now I know what to do with my old film cameras.
Really looking forward to that lens from Tamron. A worthy f 2.8! Keep those videos coming. Nice clip at the end with the cooking :)
Thanks, I really enjoined your video since I've just bought one of these ocotodomes I find that is faster to setup then a traditional soft-box. I used two Speed lights in my Ocotodome to give me a brighter light
Just keep these video's coming!
@javnou Yes there is no problem using the 60" for a group shot. It gives a great soft light over a large area.
I'm pretty sure that the small octabox and large octabox covers the same area at 6 feet because of the shape of the octabox. If you replace that with a reflective umbrella, the edges are angled out more, meaning a more obtuse angle. They say it's about the size of the light relative to the subject, but this video proves it's also about the shape of the modifier
I envy those young people who work with/for you, when their time comes they would have had the very best training.
+Mark Harris Thanks Mark.
This is an awesome video! Thanks a lot, it made me realise i wouldn't need to buy a 120 cm octodome for a specific type of look while i have a 70 cm octodome already! :D
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your feedback!
great job again jay. love this playlist.
Great Video about lights !
Cooking with camera really did surprise me. The amount of damage she did was really on par with Kai from DigitalRevTV :D
I think she drank one too many shots of vanilla.
Derrick Washington
Just the one? I think that was wayyyy too many shots...
Cooking with your camera . . . hilarious!
Excellent video!
Very excellent work
Great - super useful, packed with info.
I have no experience with the PLM. I would guess its a great product. I know I have used the Octbanks by Photoflex for years and they have always given great light and show very little signs of wear. The face stays white and does not yellow. I've heard with some boxes and Octo's thats a problem. Good Luck.
Amazing!
Glad you like it! Thanks for watching!
very informative...I enjoyed ...thanks
Could you run the cookie recipe by one more time? I kinda missed a few steps towards the end...
great job , keep those very informative video coming , like the fact that you re not trying to upsell anything
can somebody give me a example of when is the best scenario to use the Octabox vs the Parabolic?
i have the 36 inch octo of this but whats the pros and cons of the 2?
Thank you for the video. My question is, how do you get a soft/not hard light in small spaces? I make photo studio at home and cannot use the 120octabox probably
There are a couple of options. Bounce the light into a V-flat so you can control it. Or, bounce the light into a white wall or ceiling, but you don't have quite as much control as a v-flat.
Lol loved the last part.
P L E A S E, P L E A S E turn the volume of the music down. It is drowning you out. I didn't pay (wink) to hear the music... I'm hear for the talent!
sorry about that! try watching the video with closed captions turned on. i think we've gotten better about that, but a few years ago that was a different story.
The Slanted Lens I Wasnt watching the date. Good to know. Thank You for the Great Content!!
thanks for your support!
More Cooking with your Camera videos!
the model is beautiful :)
Love the cooking with your camera segment. lol!!! please make modre
Why the Last part?? :O :O
Did get dislike for that part only. Blasphemy!!! :D
Can you explain how the light is actually produced by this ? Is it like a flash ( short burst of light ) or some constant light ?
Not sure why you discuss the background light effects and falloff. When you move the model six feet away from the background, as is a usual recommendation in the studio, what happens then with the octadome?
ok i died with the end
I still die laughing every time I see it- I'm glad I'm not the only one!
When you move the Octodome away from the BG it covers a larger area, becomes harder and loses intensity.
Another good episode. Would like to see a little more time spent on strobe placement, though.
Thanks for the feedback!
Awesome....cooking with your camera!
I'm pretty sure you meant 12 ft diameter. 6 ft radius...
Taht "cooking with your camera" bit was horrible. was the fujica at least broken before you did it?
I liked it... superb.....
I’m confused . If a larger light makes softer shadows, how can a large light cover the same area as a small light at the same distance? How can the size of light affect shadows but not the area of coverage ? What is it about the size of light that makes the shadows softer? This is assuming same distance from the subject
The area of coverage at 8 feet on most modifiers is roughly the same. But when you reduce that to 6 feet a larger modifier wraps around the subject and fills in the shadow. When you reduce it to 4 feet even more so.
evil eye & a pyramid thats just great
How effective are octadomes just using the main brolly (not the velcro fronting) as a massive reflective brolly ?
It will be more directional than a bounce in an umbrella.
Can I use this with a yongnuo 300 II led light?
Nice video, very informative!
But I don't think Tamron makes any red ring L lenses... :)
I am a beginner entering Product/Food & Portraits, shoud I get 1 7ft Octodome for all 3? or 1 Octodome & 1 square softbox? 1 7ft would be enough or should I get 2-3 different sizes? Please someone reply before I burn my hard earned money on something wrong? thanks
I like 2 ooctodomes. A 28 inch beauty dish and a 36 inch octodome from Westcott. I get grids for each. That is my go to for most things.
Awesome video, many thanks!
What type of ball head do you use on the tripod for your camera? It looks a liitle bit like a pistol.
MrJueKa Good catch! It is a Vanguard GH-300T head and it has what they call a pistol grip. When you squeeze the grip, you can readjust the ball head which is a lot more efficient than knobs to loosen and tighten.
Thanks for your promt answer. Seems to be the head par exellence.
Let me also mention, that this video, your video about the umbrellas and your similar videos about lighting are the only one on TH-cam, that explain the effects of light formers and of lighting all in all so well. You and your team are doing a brilliant job.
MrJueKa Thank you! Glad I can help people get a better understanding of how these pieces work.
haha, check out my latest BTS tutorial. I am sure i have a slider placement or two... might want to put on a bib first.
Feel free to share your work :)
one question why does the autobox have a pyramid with one eye?
+mikhail O sp00ky
Can we use 60" octabox from group shots?
I want to buy a double diffuser octabox for portraits near about 60'? could u suggest me
The Westcott Octobank 5' is great! bhpho.to/30HNSL0
How big is your backdrop
How do you know the food wasn't out of date or spoiled?
Hello sir. I am kid photographer in Cambodia living in Siem Reap Angkor Wat . I have follow you but I did not understand why shadow in the background ? I am really don't like the shadow in the background . If you have one minute please let me know. Thanks. Kimleng Sang
Good and helpful tutorial... BUT. What was your hurry? Most of the Slanted Lens video's I've watched have the same problem... You shoot through the video as if you have a pressing appointment coming up and you have to get this video done as quickly as possible. Also, You're talking about the 7' Octodome/box, but I didn't see that box in your video. Same situation in other demonstrations. What's the hurry? And, let's SEE what you're talking about. Thanks!
What size is the small octobox?
In inches or cm would be great.
Anyone else think Asa looks like Anna Kournikova?
Yes :)
Haha, finally!
That was really fast paced editing.
Whatever you call them where can I get a 7ft continuous light one? - maybe that will take a fluorescent head. All the ones I see are for strobe only.
You mentioned you use both the Canon 7D and 5D. Why use both a crop frame and a full frame camera? (Actually, since you obviously have an unlimited budget for equipment, why use a crop frame at all?)
He is also a sports photographer as well as a studio photographer - he uses the 1.6 crop for that extra reach in the field. I think I also heard him say that crop frame cameras have a higher synch speed than Full frame (the 7D does 1/250 whereas the 5D does 1/200)
Mostly, If I remember correctly, he did write in a blog that said it was important to have the necessary tools for the job - and if that means having a crop for extra reach with telephoto lenses, then that's what you use. Full Frame doesn't mean better sometimes - Ive seen photographers who swear by Full Frame in the studio only to have the 7D in their backpack when they shoot sports. It is more common to see crops at sport (or at the very least top of the range full frames like the D4s or 1Dx... Its rare to see the 5DmkII or mkIII in a football match - the fps is good but not great as well.
Pepingco
I have a Nikon D700 Full-frame camera with a normal synch speed of 1/250 and there are other Full-frame DSLRs with the same synch speed - so that´s not the point.
The most important fact to decide which camera is more usefull for shooting sports is the maximum continuous shooting speed (shots/second) - the higher the better. That´s why one rarely sees a 5D.
MrJueKa Ive made money shooting with a 3fps camera. FPS means nothing - speak to any professional sports photographer and we rarely shoot in large bursts. I have my camera set to 8fps but the most I shoot is 2-3 shots during high action. Most of the time, Im still waiting for the moment and shooting one maybe 2 frames.
For sports and wildlife its always reach and AF speed, accuracy and tracking - not fps. FPS is nice to have but if you look at any of the cameras used on the field, its cameras with reach, and AF ability. Its one of the reasons why a lot of new Olympus is releasing a lot of 300mm lenses as they offer reach and lighting AF for the price.
Exceptions are D4 and 1D, but they are expensive options with little compromise.
My original point was to show a range of reasons why someone wants to have multiple bodies. I still use my 5D3 and 7D and I plan on getting an Olympus soon for the times 300mm Canon lens cant get that reach as I normally shoot on a corner of a field. I also use my Leica for the times I am allowed into the locker rooms and for post game interviews
+Chuck McLaughlin Even though the 7D is crop sensor it has a much denser pixel density also it's autofocusing system is much more advanced making it better for action
C'est normal de parler du Tamron 17-50 alors qu'on shoote avec un canon L ?
Well... I like this video... the only thing i find strange is your sideshoot from the 2.camera... and your looking away from the camera and talk.. in your main camera(shoot) you look to/in the camera and talk... As a film maker.. i find this strange... here you had possibility to shoot a greater variation... and i feeol you ruin it...
BUT... your videos are very good and interesting,, Thanks for shearing them...
ask the editor to lower the music volume, it make it difficult to understand you speaking.
oh no I just bought a large newer octobox 47" and just one speedlight and I wanted it for food photography and portraits :( is not gonna work for what I need right?
+Verónica Neira It depends what lighting you want, but it should work pretty good, why do you think it won't?
+Bruce Nguyen yes it worked
OMG please make a new channel about cooking with your camera
did anyone watch till the end? LMFAO!
Wait.... thats considered a medium octadome
Jay, Check your geometry. That's a 6' radius -- NOT 12'! DIAMETER is 12'.
wo.
Music is too Loud on this Video
Hope you learned a few things despite the music.
Good video without that last part...
learn metric system !"
Really. Or, learn the English Standard system. Or...both.
@@airbornedatasolutionsllc2386 neither
The girl at the end of the video looks like the overly attached girlfriend
do you have a 32 unlike , I bilieve for the ends video , maybe peoples don't like wast food and destroy old euipments . well I like this videos tutorial great helfull but I just unhappy with east food and destroy the old camera and lens , this would cab be donated or gifted the food for a salvation arm and the camera and lens for somebody else like a young guy who are starting photography or put how garnish on desk . thanks for video tutorial , kip doing the tutorials is not wasting & destroyng
I really hope that last bit didn't use a real camera and lens....it's an insult to cameras and lenses. :(
NOOOOO! She destroyed the Fujica....
Careful playing with that broken glass...
The pacing is much too fast in this video. I found myself having to stop and back up to see what was going on. At first I thought that you were in a hurry to finish, but then you wasted two minutes at the end with nonsense.
could do without the last minute. Its awfull.
I know her and I don't think she had a choice
Destroying camera hardware .. not cool actually..
I am not the first.
A really useful important Vid' "BUT PLEASE GET RID OF ALL THE MUSIC" I persevered; But so hard :(
Hi John, Thanks for the feedback. This lesson was from a period in our history when we were a bit heavy handed with the music tracks, but I believe we've gotten better with balancing the levels on background music. Glad it didn't scare you away!
Thanks for your reply, It really is a great and very very helpful Vid' cheers :)
The end, WTH?? What a waste of food !!!!!
You haven't been on a food shoot have you?
Next time you decide to destroy a camera drop me a line, I could put it to better use... such a waste of a good camera.
haha loosen up! the amount of laughs that video gave me was worth five cameras!
Dear God! LOL!
1/60 ????????????// this is so slow, you no want sharper pic???? soooooooooooooo what are you doing
With flash 1/60th is more than fine. His pictures are plenty sharp. Know what you're talking about before you spout nonsense on the man's channel.
Good video went garbage at the end..
I hate the ongoing background music, do you think we are imbeciles?
That was the editors choice.