Boimler's reaction is priceless. It's like first it's the shock of suddenly being somewhere else and then it hits him that he's in front of the Captain and he freaks even harder
Well what makes him freak even harder is the fact that he'd just been doing the whole Captain Kissy shit with Mariner previously and the captain caught him in the act there.
@@shadekerensky3691 More than that. When he learned Mariner was Freeman's daughter, he also learned that Freeman was so intent on keeping the secret that she'd court martial anyone who learned it. Or so said the holodeck extrapolation of Freeman's personal logs. And now he's standing in front of an obviously enraged Freeman after letting EVERYONE know her Big Secret.
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 Yeah, he knows he's screwed up and will be lucky if he's not in prison, in Starfleet, or doing the worse job on the ship for the rest of his life.
I actually like how his reaction isn't blackmail, resentment or even asking for a good word now he knows exactly how connected she is but just helping with the rule breaking because he has seen it does help people. If he had known in episode 1 this would have gone completely differently.
I feel like this is the first time we see Mariner genuinely mad. Like she gets upset, but hurriedly whisper-shouting for Boimler to shut up, it’s a different brand of anger that feels super real
She's scary when she's really angry. Remember the sickbay fight with Ransom? That was even worse than this scene with Boimler. She threw everything she could at Ransom, fought security and yelled :" I wanna dance in your blood !" 😁 A few episodes later she kept her word, as she bragged laughing to visiting captain friend Ramsey that she had put a scorpion in Ransom's bed and he had nearly died because of it. Wierdly, he never reported her for it or punished her in any way, despite not knowing who her parents are, back then.
@@CS-bu7lo Well, all things considered, he did stab her with "battle blade" and she didn't report him either. He said it himself, that was sure court-martial at the least.
The look on Tendi's face at 2:03 is priceless..... she looks like she's going to die from shock. The looks on everyone's faces are priceless, in fact. I love watching this clip.
To be fair, Mariner put Boimler through a lot shit, doesn't always take what he says seriously, and almost chopped off his leg. Karma is coming for her.
@@Grz349 Eh, he lead into her asking directly, and kept going when he noticed she was bugging about it (i.e, it really was a secret, and he was getting under her skin).
Gotta hand it to Mariner, someone who believes in principle over bureaucracy is someone who should be captain. Reminds me of plenty of captains we seen for the last 55 years.(Pike, Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Riker)
@@TheCastellan I'm pretty sure that was during Archers era back before The Federation was created during the first season when they met a pre warp civilization with two species with one dying of a disease and the other evolving. 1x13 Dear Doctor.
@@natekarpowicz7564 Like I said....it's a doctrine of moral laziness. Like what Einstein said...what's worse than evil is the good people who have the power to help....and do nothing. I would have kicked Picard in the hackey sack, as Dave Lister would say, after how Picard was like in Homeward, Penpals and so on.
@@TheCastellan the prime directive stuff is definitely an interesting thing, and whilst I agree helping a civilization is a good thing, revealing to them that aliens exist probably isn't, I mean look at humanity, we have so many people hating eachother because of tiny things like sexuality and gender identity, or skin colour or which lump of dirt owned by whatever government you're born on and so on, it's ridiculous and so long as that mentality exists in our species we shouldn't be meeting aliens. It's the same logic with star trek, they don't want to screw up a civilization by giving them any opportunities to find new things to hate or get their hands on technology they shouldn't have yet
Maybe this explains why Boimler got promoted, the Captain did say she'll get them off her ship and Boimler's promotion is the path of least resistance.
Ransom did say that Boimler is very promotable. So much so that he had a dilemma whether to promote him or Mariner (cause he lives to serve the captain).
that and Boim got caught that he was planning to blackmail Beckett to get away with stuff. That puts a lot of his future actions into a negative light.
@@targetseeker He wasn't blackmailing her......he just thought that Beckett can get away with the shit she does because the Captain bails her out.......which is both correct and wrong at the same time.
@@LordDarthHarry he was going to use that knowledge as an easy out whenever a screw up happens on his account. It's not exactly traditional blackmail but from Captain Freeman's pov, it sure sounds like it (she can hear Beckett telling Brad to shut it but he kept on talking).
The editing in this episode was so spot on. They even perfectly cut Boimler’s scream of terror when he sees the captain. (And no it was not the channel that cut the scene, what plays next after is the opening scenes)
Some things are destined to be known sooner or later. When the crews found out that Mariner was the Captain's daughter, Mariner's character became stronger and it puts the entire characters in this show in the limelight. This mother-daughter relationship is much better and intense than the Crusher's
Me too, i kinda like Mariner despite her recklessness and her drunk atitude, so probably i will be dislike more, and tendi is my favorite character in this show because of her cuteness and kind atitude
These clips I see on YT aren't half bad, most of the time at least. I don't know, it's proably because I knew everybody was hating the shit out of it and it's cool to have a dissenting opinion and trash something that's praised and praise something that's trash.
I like that Starfleet has its own official line of art supplies branded with the Starfleet delta. I’m going to need a couple boxes of Starfleet-issue crayons and some watercolors.
@@1TW1-m5i I like the idea that there's a subroutine in there somewhere that demands the replicator keep its products on-brand. I imagine it does it for everything - you ask for a burger from the replicator, and it comes with a Starfleet delta embossed on the top of the bun.
@@tbotalpha8133 Wouldnt actually be too far fetched. There could be a system in place that requires you to buy a license before replicating brand products, which isnt really too different from how things are handled nowadays if you want to use or recreate products from another company that owns the rights on said product.
Coming from S2:Ep5 I can almost see the concern that Mariner has for Boimler when she knows her *compatriot* is getting himself in so much trouble. I also love that the second her mother is injured she almost completely changes and turns into what she’s best at, a champion for the crew.
1.) *_"It's always weird revisiting planets from the 'TOS' era."_** ~* See, that was a great integrated ST-reference joke. Taps against the _'Fourth Wall'_ without breaking it. Props to the writers on that gag. It is when the animators & writers take the [time + effort] to seamlessly weave ST-content/-references into the fabric of the show itself, rather than having the Mariner (&/or the other LD-cast) just blurt out various ST-references, is when ST:LD really shines as a *_genuine_* Star Trek series. 2.) [1:19] *_"We can hear you, can you hear me?"_** ~* I found that part a bit weak, ST-comms generally need to answered to establish an open line (like answering your phone). I would have changed it so Boimler accidentally taps his comm-badge when he takes off his uniform shirt and puts it down on the art supplies crate, and the line is picked-up (answered) by the USS Cerritos bridge. As a scene-edit/-corrective Example...? - [1:04] *__* - *__* - [Captain Freeman]: We still have personnel down on Beta III? Open a channel! - [Helmsman]: Actually, Captain... There is an incoming comm-badge signal from them..? - [Captain Freeman]: Put it on speakers. - *__* 3.) *_T-shirts and Tank-tops_** ~* Animation-wise, I am glad to be seeing Mariner actually having a tank-top layer under her uniform-shirt, instead of her brown/tan bra; and a t-shirt for Boimler too, of course. That clothing-detail (no undershirts) has been nagging at me since the Pilot-episode [ST:LD 1x01]. *;)* 4.) [1:57] *_Mom's Manual Override_** ~* Poor Lundy, taking an elbow & hand to the face in being shoved out of his station by an enraged Freeman. *;
Loose lips sink ships, ding ding. Even if he thought the conversation was private, he heard what the captain would do to anyone who found out that secret. The knowledge made him scuttle his interview, and now he's casually bringing it up?
@@ooooneeee Yes.. but it's still something that shouldn't be discussed at all, let alone casually on a street corner. That's the kind of secret that is best held until such time as one needs a lot of leverage to get out of some deep poo.. not used continually as a shield.
He is casually bringing it while in a non Federation world with only Mariner and himself as witnesses. But yeah, not disabling communications before the "talk" was a mistake.
@@raistlin3462 to be fair as far as we knew the badge couldn't be used to spy on people, in DS9 taking the badge of was used to mean that a discussion took was taking place without starfleet's knowledge, by both Worf with Gowron and Bashin with the Admiral
@@raistlin3462 Not to mention the aliens that they are surrounded while being tecniclu awol. Would you think if someone would find out and thus blackmail the captain or even kidnap Mariner
I honestly didn’t know that was supposed to be a secret until this specific episode. I thought everybody knew and we’re cool with it. Maybe the captain threatened some kind of punishment if anyone talked about it out loud. Oh, well...
You missed a lot of scenes. Literally boimler finding out the episode before on the holodeck the extrapolated from personal logs captain hologram literally went on a hell hath no bound rant and he biffed his interview. They mentioned keeping it a secret several times in the season.
while it may or may not be the case in starfleet, in a awful lot of real world militaries, its not allowed for someone to serve under their own close family. This is normally due to the risk of said family member giving you favourable treatment (which is obviously bad for crew morale and unity), or that other have the perception of favourable treatment (which is almost as bad). it can also cause the lower ranked person's to become isolated for their peers, if those peers start thinking "they're only here because they have friends in high places". thus, beckett might want to keep it a secret, becuase she wants to be valued on her own merits, and not written off as "just the captains daughter", to say nothing of those who might see her connections to an admiral as a way to acquire influence. careere
@@xerxeskingofking ""they're only here because they have friends in high places"" Well in this case "here" is in the lower ranks of a california class vessel, which seems to be kinda the unloved child of starfleet. As a fellow crewmember id assume she was being punished more than anything else with that kind of connections :p
ENT - Entering New Territory DIS - Discovering Insane Science SNW - Spock's New World TOS - Those old Scientists TAS - Those Amazing Stories TNG - The New Guys VOY - Very Odd Years DS9 - Deep Space Nine (this was the name of the station, so this is easy.) LD - Lower Decks (also easy) PIC - Picard In Control
Although Boimler only reveal to Mariner that he found out her secret that Captain Freeman is her mother, but the entire Cerritos listening to their conversation especially Captain Freeman who is really pissed off with all this. I don't know what happened after the screen cut to the intro but I bet Captain Freeman had some severe words with Boimler for finding out that Mariner is her daughter and now thanks to him everyone in Cerritos now know Mariner's secret .
Well that happens,but..umm.. _But WHY would that(Being the fact that Mariner is the captain's daughter,I may add?) be a problem then,honestly..? It's not like it was common knowledge or anything-Doesn't Starfleet ENCOURAGE something like that (you know-Families joining and fighting/operating in/within the ranks of Starfleet/the Starfleet Generation-thing,honestly-so..?!) in the first place? Why is that a problem,huh?_
I don't think Boimler's comm was open to the entire Cerritos, just the bridge, because they were trying to contact them to return to the ship. Those on the bridge who heard it probably leaked it and it spread like wildfire.
I had a hard time believing it was the same actor as did the live action acting; they just don’t quite sound the same. Maybe it’s the effect of the animation influencing how I hear him, but animated Boimler just doesn’t quite sound the same as live action Boimler.
@@keirfarnum6811 The voices of animated shows are typically recorded in isolated sound-proof environments whereas live action features are recorded on a set where the sound dynamics are fundamentally different. As proof I offer Boimler's scream when Spock's experiment explodes. That's a sounds only Jack Quaid makes.
I don't think that was right with the comm They contacted him he needs to tap his badge to respond yet they still heard his conversation Its like getting your cell phone being answered by the caller
Maybe the captains can override the comms. If you think about it Starfleet uses comms to track their officers. If a crewman gets captured and they can’t speak though the comm. the captain can override the comm and hear that crewman’s surroundings and with that info can save them
How combadges work was never consistent from TNG all the way up through Voyager... Most of the time they would tap them to respond and end a conversation... Sometimes they wouldn't ...
I hope we get to see that. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think we probably will since it is only a matter of time until we get a Lower Decks time travel story.
WHOA WHOA whoa whoa whoa. D'you ever have one of those moments where you think, "How the Hell did I get here?"? Y'know come to think of it, my whole life has been a series of wtf moments
Lol, that was hilarious ! Both Ransom and the captain were fuming. Mariner, too. But his "hard" rant, later on, is even funnier, I spilled tea all over laughing...
Boy you can tell she surprised and gets angry."Shut you bleep mouth!!"Then youseethe captain just push a crew out of their seat.He was right to freak out.The one other person that can make his life a nightmare was before him!
as we saw in top gun maverick tom cruises character mavericks career was protected by iceman who became commander in chief pacific fleet (4 star admiral) you don't know how awesome it is when you can get out of trouble with something as simple as a phone call.
@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon i would say that would apply to mariner. forget her mother being a captain. her father is a 4 star admiral... that's near the top of the food chain. all he would need to do is make a phone call and she would pretty much get out of most trouble.
@@cobracorporal6738 ~ *@J R* is correct. Both Mariner's and Captain Freeman's service-records would be more-or-less openly available. Freeman and Mariner were probably relying upon no one bothering to detail-check into it; meaning quiet discretion, rather than any active cover-ups (the latter would probably be against protocol/legality).
He stole the private logs of the entire crew to create a hologram simulation of the crew to help with his interview with the captain. Mariner turned that simulation into a holodrama to burn off steam. And Boimler learn the fact and how the captain ruin anybody who learns about it.
@@gammaxmen If Freeman did, then Boimler could say he was being unfairly treated, prompting an investigation by Star Fleet. They would then uncover the fact that Freeman was technically engaging in nepotism by giving her daughter Mariner a job on the Cerritos. That's why Freeman didn't couet martial Boimler
@@gammaxmen Except that Boimler didn't need to do anything. Freeman likely made a decision to do nothing without even talking to anyone. Ironcially Boimler most likely would have never even considered appealing being court martialed. He has too much reverence and respect for Star Fleet laws and protocols.
That the captain is her mom shouldn't have EVER been a secret to Boimler. He has stated over and over and over that he reads all of the logs from everybody. The captain has surely logged about Becket a thousand times and the issues with having your daughter under your command. Boimler programmed the simulation of the captain, based on her logs, so the information was in there.
since her husband is a 4 star admiral (people sometimes forget just how high up this kind of rank is in the real life navies or fictional starfleet) it wouldn't be too much of a shocker if by using his admiralty privileges altered the records or classified certain stuff so freeman and mariner do not show up on each others records.
Never violate the Prime Directive. It always leads to worse situations down the road and greater destruction. Different tribes must work out things for themselves no matter what island in space that tribe my reside on.
I'm glad Boimler got promoted, but did he get promoted BECAUSE of this? That is, because Captain Freeman wanted him away from him mucking things up? Seems a little sad, upon reflection
Why? The cat was already out of the bag, so Boimler was harmless. If Carol wanted to make him suffer, she would have denied that promotion and keep Boimler under her thumb. We know from Mariner's own promotion that Captain Freeman isn't above making a troublesome subordinate miserable.
@@goliathprojects7354 Yes, especially if someone else is calling you. Taht's like someone calling your cell phone and being able to hear everything you do despite the fact that you never answered.
@@shadekerensky3691 I suspect it was an override from command. They were leaving and knew they had people on the planet, tried hailing them. got ghosted, so they overrode the requirement to pick up. Or perhaps calls from the bridge always override everything.
So why was Beckett so hellbent on no one knowing the Captain is her mom? They don't show this show here in Iceland, can only watch clips here on youtube.
No clue either but my guesses are: 1 - She wants to be the "cool" rulebreaker. Having a mother as a superior kinda undermines her rule breaking since there's no real danger in breaking rules if your parent is in charge of the ship. 2 - Suspicion of Nepotism (Boimler outright says they can break all the rules they want because here mother is in charge.)
I know this was 3 months ago, but basically it went both ways. Beckett wanted the freedom to break any rule she wanted without the expectation of being professional. The Captain did not want anyone to know she was the mother of the most demerited member on the ship. In this very episode, Beckett is constantly hounded by other officers who are sucking up to her so they can get closer to the captain.
@1:43 The minute he said that she should've rushed him & told him to keep his mouth shut and I should know I work for the state of Maryland under the secretary of the state. Anyone finds out that my mom & dad knows the secretary it will be the end of that.
it seems like mariner is not really close to the father. given that his job is a 4 star admiral in starfleet she has even more reasons to not embarass him.
@@GOldenPROdigy115 and the captain should have been expelled from StarFleet for such actions if she can't keep her daughter and boilmer under control... Well or it's just bad writing to make it funny like in discovery and Picard
Boimler's reaction is priceless. It's like first it's the shock of suddenly being somewhere else and then it hits him that he's in front of the Captain and he freaks even harder
Well what makes him freak even harder is the fact that he'd just been doing the whole Captain Kissy shit with Mariner previously and the captain caught him in the act there.
Ya Dun GOOFED
@@shadekerensky3691 More than that. When he learned Mariner was Freeman's daughter, he also learned that Freeman was so intent on keeping the secret that she'd court martial anyone who learned it. Or so said the holodeck extrapolation of Freeman's personal logs.
And now he's standing in front of an obviously enraged Freeman after letting EVERYONE know her Big Secret.
I died at that part. Lmao
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 Yeah, he knows he's screwed up and will be lucky if he's not in prison, in Starfleet, or doing the worse job on the ship for the rest of his life.
I actually like how his reaction isn't blackmail, resentment or even asking for a good word now he knows exactly how connected she is but just helping with the rule breaking because he has seen it does help people. If he had known in episode 1 this would have gone completely differently.
Thinking about it he reacted better than most of her other coworkers did, or the rest of the senior staff.
I feel like this is the first time we see Mariner genuinely mad. Like she gets upset, but hurriedly whisper-shouting for Boimler to shut up, it’s a different brand of anger that feels super real
She's scary when she's really angry. Remember the sickbay fight with Ransom? That was even worse than this scene with Boimler. She threw everything she could at Ransom, fought security and yelled :" I wanna dance in your blood !" 😁 A few episodes later she kept her word, as she bragged laughing to visiting captain friend Ramsey that she had put a scorpion in Ransom's bed and he had nearly died because of it. Wierdly, he never reported her for it or punished her in any way, despite not knowing who her parents are, back then.
@@CS-bu7lo Well, all things considered, he did stab her with "battle blade" and she didn't report him either. He said it himself, that was sure court-martial at the least.
The look on Tendi's face at 2:03 is priceless..... she looks like she's going to die from shock. The looks on everyone's faces are priceless, in fact. I love watching this clip.
Have you seen that captain? Their faces are so priceless XD
I like how this scene finally covers how the communicators are basically always on "speaker phone".
It makes sense, that way if Starfleet personnel are being held hostage or attacked they can hear what's going on.
Snickered that “TOS” is officially an acronym in the context of the Trek universe, even if it so far seems to be only a Ransom thing.
Myriad Media Musings tng could be Those gnarly guys.
Should have gone with "Those old spacefarers"
old starships would make more sense - but the joke is that it doesn't because it is a tortured reference to a real world Series.
Ransom is aware hes in a comedy :)
Those Old pSychopaths
Soooo, if TOS apparently stands for Those Old Scientists, then does TNG mean The New Guys?
“The Negotiator Guru,” for Picard.
@@DrFranklynAnderson All other captains are better negotiators.
It probably dose me "The New Guys"
@@alphanerd7221 aaaaaaand the answer is B: No.
@@RoxyGotMoxy. Behold the wit of the Picard devotee. Q shows up to help humanity and Picard negotiates himself into dead crewmen.
It's interesting how their breaking the 4th wall without breaking the 4th wall
*"A fourth wall break inside a fourth wall break, that's like 16 walls"*
- Deadpool
@@cobracorporal6738 8 actually 4 + 4 equaling 8 and all
@@cobeoe I know. You got me thinking about that scene in Deadpool
Their breaking it, it’s obviously out in there as a wink and eye roll, and intentional jab at the original series.
Hardcore Bunny I’d say it’s a little less than a jab, and more like a friendly little elbow nudge.
0:50 - the look on that little girl's face when Beckett handed her the compass ("spiky pencil twirl-around thingy") was downright evil....
A avid die-hard fan of the Red Hour, I asume.
@@kalexkhan5086 Yeah, she looked like she was going to twirl that compass in someone's innards....
She about to discover trigonometry, then calculus.
that's definitionally a serial killer in the making.
Yes, haha! Circumferences!
To be fair, Mariner put Boimler through a lot shit, doesn't always take what he says seriously, and almost chopped off his leg. Karma is coming for her.
@mikey last He did try and avoid saying that the Captain is her mom out loud, Mariner made him say it
@@Grz349 Eh, he lead into her asking directly, and kept going when he noticed she was bugging about it (i.e, it really was a secret, and he was getting under her skin).
@@alecLogan but as far as he know they were alone so based on all of the shit mariner pulled he was completely justified yet at the same time reserved
Gotta hand it to Mariner, someone who believes in principle over bureaucracy is someone who should be captain. Reminds me of plenty of captains we seen for the last 55 years.(Pike, Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Riker)
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in the same episode is kind of revealed that riker is mariner's mentor figure... and helps her get all that sweet contraband
Pity Picard was rather anal over the prime directive, ready to let an entire race DIE, simply because they don't got warp drive.
@@TheCastellan I'm pretty sure that was during Archers era back before The Federation was created during the first season when they met a pre warp civilization with two species with one dying of a disease and the other evolving. 1x13 Dear Doctor.
@@natekarpowicz7564 Like I said....it's a doctrine of moral laziness.
Like what Einstein said...what's worse than evil is the good people who have the power to help....and do nothing.
I would have kicked Picard in the hackey sack, as Dave Lister would say, after how Picard was like in Homeward, Penpals and so on.
@@TheCastellan the prime directive stuff is definitely an interesting thing, and whilst I agree helping a civilization is a good thing, revealing to them that aliens exist probably isn't, I mean look at humanity, we have so many people hating eachother because of tiny things like sexuality and gender identity, or skin colour or which lump of dirt owned by whatever government you're born on and so on, it's ridiculous and so long as that mentality exists in our species we shouldn't be meeting aliens. It's the same logic with star trek, they don't want to screw up a civilization by giving them any opportunities to find new things to hate or get their hands on technology they shouldn't have yet
"I didn't authorize that! Who is it?"
Why does she have to ask at this point? It's literally always the same person...
"You dont teach, you just instigate chaos"
This much is true were Beckett is concerned.
Maybe this explains why Boimler got promoted, the Captain did say she'll get them off her ship and Boimler's promotion is the path of least resistance.
He's the Titan's problem now?
Ransom did say that Boimler is very promotable. So much so that he had a dilemma whether to promote him or Mariner (cause he lives to serve the captain).
that and Boim got caught that he was planning to blackmail Beckett to get away with stuff. That puts a lot of his future actions into a negative light.
@@targetseeker He wasn't blackmailing her......he just thought that Beckett can get away with the shit she does because the Captain bails her out.......which is both correct and wrong at the same time.
@@LordDarthHarry he was going to use that knowledge as an easy out whenever a screw up happens on his account. It's not exactly traditional blackmail but from Captain Freeman's pov, it sure sounds like it (she can hear Beckett telling Brad to shut it but he kept on talking).
The editing in this episode was so spot on. They even perfectly cut Boimler’s scream of terror when he sees the captain. (And no it was not the channel that cut the scene, what plays next after is the opening scenes)
That cut made the joke hit harder for me. it was perfect.
Some things are destined to be known sooner or later. When the crews found out that Mariner was the Captain's daughter, Mariner's character became stronger and it puts the entire characters in this show in the limelight. This mother-daughter relationship is much better and intense than the Crusher's
This show is so growing on me.
Ita very good tbh
Me too
Me too, i kinda like Mariner despite her recklessness and her drunk atitude, so probably i will be dislike more, and tendi is my favorite character in this show because of her cuteness and kind atitude
Yeah me too. Just finished up the last two episodes of its first season and cannot wait for it's second season.
These clips I see on YT aren't half bad, most of the time at least. I don't know, it's proably because I knew everybody was hating the shit out of it and it's cool to have a dissenting opinion and trash something that's praised and praise something that's trash.
I like that Starfleet has its own official line of art supplies branded with the Starfleet delta.
I’m going to need a couple boxes of Starfleet-issue crayons and some watercolors.
Perhaps the replicator just sticks the logo on boxes by default?
@@1TW1-m5i I like the idea that there's a subroutine in there somewhere that demands the replicator keep its products on-brand. I imagine it does it for everything - you ask for a burger from the replicator, and it comes with a Starfleet delta embossed on the top of the bun.
It's for the preschools on the Galaxy-Class and starbases.
The star fleet marines must be happy with that
@@tbotalpha8133 Wouldnt actually be too far fetched. There could be a system in place that requires you to buy a license before replicating brand products, which isnt really too different from how things are handled nowadays if you want to use or recreate products from another company that owns the rights on said product.
Coming from S2:Ep5 I can almost see the concern that Mariner has for Boimler when she knows her *compatriot* is getting himself in so much trouble. I also love that the second her mother is injured she almost completely changes and turns into what she’s best at, a champion for the crew.
I wont lie that there are some grievances but that was delivered perfectly
That expression of Captain Mariner at 2:15. She's going to rip Boimler into shreds when she gets her hands on him.
She's going to find a way to get into the mirror universe just to pick up a pain booth for him.
She's Captain Freeman. Mariner is the husband's lastname.
if he's lucky.......
That face though. I'm so dying xD
@@shaftoe195 hes Admiral Freeman I think Mariner is the captains maiden name or maybe Mariner was married at some point...
Man I loved how this went, with Boimler talking to Mariner, but everyone overhearing because of the coms.
1.) *_"It's always weird revisiting planets from the 'TOS' era."_** ~* See, that was a great integrated ST-reference joke. Taps against the _'Fourth Wall'_ without breaking it. Props to the writers on that gag. It is when the animators & writers take the [time + effort] to seamlessly weave ST-content/-references into the fabric of the show itself, rather than having the Mariner (&/or the other LD-cast) just blurt out various ST-references, is when ST:LD really shines as a *_genuine_* Star Trek series.
2.) [1:19] *_"We can hear you, can you hear me?"_** ~* I found that part a bit weak, ST-comms generally need to answered to establish an open line (like answering your phone). I would have changed it so Boimler accidentally taps his comm-badge when he takes off his uniform shirt and puts it down on the art supplies crate, and the line is picked-up (answered) by the USS Cerritos bridge.
As a scene-edit/-corrective Example...?
- [1:04] *__*
- *__*
- [Captain Freeman]: We still have personnel down on Beta III? Open a channel!
- [Helmsman]: Actually, Captain... There is an incoming comm-badge signal from them..?
- [Captain Freeman]: Put it on speakers.
- *__*
3.) *_T-shirts and Tank-tops_** ~* Animation-wise, I am glad to be seeing Mariner actually having a tank-top layer under her uniform-shirt, instead of her brown/tan bra; and a t-shirt for Boimler too, of course. That clothing-detail (no undershirts) has been nagging at me since the Pilot-episode [ST:LD 1x01]. *;)*
4.) [1:57] *_Mom's Manual Override_** ~* Poor Lundy, taking an elbow & hand to the face in being shoved out of his station by an enraged Freeman. *;
Loose lips sink ships, ding ding. Even if he thought the conversation was private, he heard what the captain would do to anyone who found out that secret. The knowledge made him scuttle his interview, and now he's casually bringing it up?
He didn't notice the captain was listening.
@@ooooneeee Yes.. but it's still something that shouldn't be discussed at all, let alone casually on a street corner. That's the kind of secret that is best held until such time as one needs a lot of leverage to get out of some deep poo.. not used continually as a shield.
He is casually bringing it while in a non Federation world with only Mariner and himself as witnesses.
But yeah, not disabling communications before the "talk" was a mistake.
@@raistlin3462 to be fair as far as we knew the badge couldn't be used to spy on people, in DS9 taking the badge of was used to mean that a discussion took was taking place without starfleet's knowledge, by both Worf with Gowron and Bashin with the Admiral
@@raistlin3462 Not to mention the aliens that they are surrounded while being tecniclu awol. Would you think if someone would find out and thus blackmail the captain or even kidnap Mariner
2:14 Oh god, that enraged eye twitching, lol
I love when Mariner is like "Shut the fuck up right now Boimler, shut your fucking mouth"
This is the Trek we needed.
I just rewatched this and I have no idea why it made me smile so much.
I honestly didn’t know that was supposed to be a secret until this specific episode. I thought everybody knew and we’re cool with it. Maybe the captain threatened some kind of punishment if anyone talked about it out loud.
Oh, well...
You missed a lot of scenes. Literally boimler finding out the episode before on the holodeck the extrapolated from personal logs captain hologram literally went on a hell hath no bound rant and he biffed his interview. They mentioned keeping it a secret several times in the season.
Don't worry, i also didn't completely catch it. Though it seems pretty obvious that it was a secret in hindsight.
while it may or may not be the case in starfleet, in a awful lot of real world militaries, its not allowed for someone to serve under their own close family.
This is normally due to the risk of said family member giving you favourable treatment (which is obviously bad for crew morale and unity), or that other have the perception of favourable treatment (which is almost as bad). it can also cause the lower ranked person's to become isolated for their peers, if those peers start thinking "they're only here because they have friends in high places".
thus, beckett might want to keep it a secret, becuase she wants to be valued on her own merits, and not written off as "just the captains daughter", to say nothing of those who might see her connections to an admiral as a way to acquire influence. careere
@@xerxeskingofking ""they're only here because they have friends in high places""
Well in this case "here" is in the lower ranks of a california class vessel, which seems to be kinda the unloved child of starfleet. As a fellow crewmember id assume she was being punished more than anything else with that kind of connections :p
1:39 So that was one of Mariner's secret?
... I should try that technique sometime around.
ENT - Entering New Territory
DIS - Discovering Insane Science
SNW - Spock's New World
TOS - Those old Scientists
TAS - Those Amazing Stories
TNG - The New Guys
VOY - Very Odd Years
DS9 - Deep Space Nine (this was the name of the station, so this is easy.)
LD - Lower Decks (also easy)
PIC - Picard In Control
I was so surprised by how good this show is. Fingers crossed for a season 2.
YEAH!!! I really enjoyed it! Hope the new season comes out soon!
Now renewed for season FIVE!
I just love the visual of Starfleet officers handing out art supplies
She called her mom, "Carrol" and love the eye twitch when they beamed on the bridge. classic.
I don't know why but I love how this feels like a 14-15 y'old who wants to keep it a secret that her mom is the Principal.
Although Boimler only reveal to Mariner that he found out her secret that Captain Freeman is her mother, but the entire Cerritos listening to their conversation especially Captain Freeman who is really pissed off with all this. I don't know what happened after the screen cut to the intro but I bet Captain Freeman had some severe words with Boimler for finding out that Mariner is her daughter and now thanks to him everyone in Cerritos now know Mariner's secret .
Why are their comms so open? It's so weird that just anyone could listen in
Well that happens,but..umm..
_But WHY would that(Being the fact that Mariner is the captain's daughter,I may add?) be a problem then,honestly..? It's not like it was common knowledge or anything-Doesn't Starfleet ENCOURAGE something like that (you know-Families joining and fighting/operating in/within the ranks of Starfleet/the Starfleet Generation-thing,honestly-so..?!) in the first place? Why is that a problem,huh?_
*_Shrugs_*
I don't think Boimler's comm was open to the entire Cerritos, just the bridge, because they were trying to contact them to return to the ship. Those on the bridge who heard it probably leaked it and it spread like wildfire.
There are so many talented voice actors in Lower Decks, but Jack Quaid does the absolute most for this series.
I had a hard time believing it was the same actor as did the live action acting; they just don’t quite sound the same. Maybe it’s the effect of the animation influencing how I hear him, but animated Boimler just doesn’t quite sound the same as live action Boimler.
@@keirfarnum6811 The voices of animated shows are typically recorded in isolated sound-proof environments whereas live action features are recorded on a set where the sound dynamics are fundamentally different.
As proof I offer Boimler's scream when Spock's experiment explodes. That's a sounds only Jack Quaid makes.
that classic Boimler Scream realy makes it
2:17 Dead man screaming.
It makes me laugh so much
I don't think that was right with the comm
They contacted him he needs to tap his badge to respond yet they still heard his conversation
Its like getting your cell phone being answered by the caller
Maybe it was broken
Maybe the captains can override the comms. If you think about it Starfleet uses comms to track their officers. If a crewman gets captured and they can’t speak though the comm. the captain can override the comm and hear that
crewman’s surroundings and with that info can save them
Squidinkey Or Boimler could have rigged it to auto respond to the command staff. It would fit with his character.
How combadges work was never consistent from TNG all the way up through Voyager... Most of the time they would tap them to respond and end a conversation... Sometimes they wouldn't ...
Must've bumped it when taking off his shirt
Boimler’s reaction in the end was priceless.
1:52 I need an uncensored version.
🖐 Same
I refer you to Rule 34 of the Internet.
@@samsignorelli How does Rule 34 apply here?
@@ZukoHalliwell "If something exists, there is porn of it."
That's the rule....I already found some on the 'net.
@@samsignorelli Well, I need to investigate Doctor T'ana...
Haha "Those old Scientists" came full circle this weekend with SNW crossover!
2:18 - It was at this moment Ensign Boilmer knew he fucked up.
Freeze at 2:18
And that's how I got demoted and send back to the academy
I never thought about it but there must be no physical sensation when being transported. Boimler had no idea what happened until he opened his eyes.
They're so gonna get together in later seasons
I think so (and I hope Rutherford and Tendi too)!!!❤️❤️
@@florzinhafeliz8093 completely agree on both relationships.
@@chrissmart21 as do I.
No way. She and Boimler are already super close and nothing has happened. Also, he isn't her type and she isn't his.
Beckett is going to be an Enterprise commander on par with Kirk and Picard.
Blair Brown When she’s ready one day. Until then, she’s young and at a phase where she thinks time will be frozen till she feels she’s ready.
I hope we get to see that. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think we probably will since it is only a matter of time until we get a Lower Decks time travel story.
B Good Yeah, that’ll probably be on one of the agendas. Though I’m wondering if anyone from the Prime reality will visit the Kelvin reality.
@@gammaxmen I hadn't even thought of that. Good question!
B Good Yeah, though Q doesn’t really count when he made that visit to the Kelvin Reality.
He’s from a reality entirely.
My gosh, Boimler and Mariner act like an old married couple for a little bit.
Yeah
Who else already knew and obvious saw this coming?
Audience: WE DO!
ME: See, NOT alone on this! You messed up royally, Boimler!
was expecting it to happen in the middle or the end, not in the beginning
2:16 So you have chosen death!
THE funniest moment of first season YET! :) the build up of "oh sh&t . Shut up Boimler SHUT UP! "
This visual comedy of Mariner shoving the case of art supplies into Boimler who’s completely unfazed
I enjoy this show even without understanding any of the references.
2:18 AAAAAHHHH-*MUSIC PLAYS*
WHOA WHOA whoa whoa whoa. D'you ever have one of those moments where you think, "How the Hell did I get here?"?
Y'know come to think of it, my whole life has been a series of wtf moments
That scream cut was perfect!
“I am not a little fly in amber!”
Lol, that was hilarious ! Both Ransom and the captain were fuming. Mariner, too. But his "hard" rant, later on, is even funnier, I spilled tea all over laughing...
SECOND TIME WATCH , it is a moment that he well never forget and Mariner will never let him forget. SO FUNNY.
Good to see mainstream shows catching onto the meme that is perfectly cut screams.
I love that moment. You can see boimler's career prospects go sideways
2:18 perfectly cut scream
DOES CAPTAIN MOMMY GIVE YOU SWEET WIDDO CAPTAIN KISSES?
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
They really gotta put a fence around Landru or something if the residents of Beta 3 keep trying to worship it
Or actually break it. Beam it into space and tractor it into the local sun.
@@KEVMAN7987 just put windows 10 on it.....that will do it.
@@KEVMAN7987 It's sentient so Star Fleet can't kill it.
I wish I had a friend like her.
I F*€#ING LOVE THIS SHOW!
Lol at 2:18
She is going to fuck him up.
This is why I keep my mouth shut everywhere I go. The walls have ears when you least need em to.
Boy you can tell she surprised and gets angry."Shut you bleep mouth!!"Then youseethe captain just push a crew out of their seat.He was right to freak out.The one other person that can make his life a nightmare was before him!
Those Nerdy Guys
"Your basically Starfleet Royalty how cool is that."
as we saw in top gun maverick tom cruises character mavericks career was protected by iceman who became commander in chief pacific fleet (4 star admiral) you don't know how awesome it is when you can get out of trouble with something as simple as a phone call.
@@joeswanson733 Haven't seen Top Gun wouldn't know.
@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon i would say that would apply to mariner. forget her mother being a captain. her father is a 4 star admiral... that's near the top of the food chain. all he would need to do is make a phone call and she would pretty much get out of most trouble.
1:52 I love how Mariner says STFU.
1:43 Dreamwork’s Cleopatra In Space!
I laughed so hard that the Strange New Worlds crossover was called "Those Old Scientists"
TOS=Those Old Scientists I love it.
Wait a minute, how did Boimler know that Mariner's dad is an Admiral?
maybe he looked up the captain's records her marriage would be recorded
@@cobracorporal6738 ~ *@J R* is correct. Both Mariner's and Captain Freeman's service-records would be more-or-less openly available. Freeman and Mariner were probably relying upon no one bothering to detail-check into it; meaning quiet discretion, rather than any active cover-ups (the latter would probably be against protocol/legality).
He stole the private logs of the entire crew to create a hologram simulation of the crew to help with his interview with the captain. Mariner turned that simulation into a holodrama to burn off steam. And Boimler learn the fact and how the captain ruin anybody who learns about it.
@@nickl5658 that's how he found out her mom is the captain they didn't mention her dad until the next episode
he looks it up
Well Sir, It At This Moments That Boimler Knew He’d Dumb F*^#% Up!
I don’t know how he got out of that without being court-martialed right out of the airlock.
It was because everybody on the bridge learned about it
!? Still, that had to be a breach of conduct. No way Freeman would let Biomler get away with that kind of behavior, as well as his loud mouth.
@@gammaxmen If Freeman did, then Boimler could say he was being unfairly treated, prompting an investigation by Star Fleet. They would then uncover the fact that Freeman was technically engaging in nepotism by giving her daughter Mariner a job on the Cerritos. That's why Freeman didn't couet martial Boimler
!? In essential, blackmailing his way out.
@@gammaxmen Except that Boimler didn't need to do anything. Freeman likely made a decision to do nothing without even talking to anyone.
Ironcially Boimler most likely would have never even considered appealing being court martialed. He has too much reverence and respect for Star Fleet laws and protocols.
What song do you use in the outtro?
1:31- Yeah, Boimler. I know what you were checking out.
2:22
"How did this happen? Were you playing Pareesi squares?"
Great episode and season!
When Boimler almost scream it make laugh out loud
Dumbass should've kept his mouth shut.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 Boimler is not a dumbass
@@curious5887 He was in this episode.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 fo you kow, tha mariner ex have ex tobe cpat Ramsey
The fact she immediately got serious should have clued him in to SHUTTING UP
his communicator was left behind
I'm not a star trek fan at all, but this clip makes em want to check out the series :P
Hey I've been trying everywhere, what is that song at the end? I still can't find it
My god Biomler
You . Just . keep . fucking . up
You got that right he dose keep messing things up.
That's exactly the reaction Clark should've done when he saw Sam Lane enter the Kent residence.
That the captain is her mom shouldn't have EVER been a secret to Boimler. He has stated over and over and over that he reads all of the logs from everybody. The captain has surely logged about Becket a thousand times and the issues with having your daughter under your command. Boimler programmed the simulation of the captain, based on her logs, so the information was in there.
And the doctor had to already know, next of kin for every crew member in in their medical records
since her husband is a 4 star admiral (people sometimes forget just how high up this kind of rank is in the real life navies or fictional starfleet) it wouldn't be too much of a shocker if by using his admiralty privileges altered the records or classified certain stuff so freeman and mariner do not show up on each others records.
Might have called her mariner the entire time without referring to her as her daughter.
"I AM NOT A LITTLE FLY IN AMBER!"
Never violate the Prime Directive. It always leads to worse situations down the road and greater destruction. Different tribes must work out things for themselves no matter what island in space that tribe my reside on.
Way to totally miss the theme of Star Trek.
To quote Q, "Oh, please"
I'm glad Boimler got promoted, but did he get promoted BECAUSE of this? That is, because Captain Freeman wanted him away from him mucking things up?
Seems a little sad, upon reflection
He got promoted from one of the worst ships in the fleet, to one of the best ships in the fleet. That turned out super-well for Boimler.
@@shaftoe195 yet he cares about no one on that ship and will be back.
@@africanlogic757 Doubtful unless they want to keep Boimler miserable, there's plenty of people for him to be friends with on the Titan.
It was Ransom who got him promoted.
Why? The cat was already out of the bag, so Boimler was harmless.
If Carol wanted to make him suffer, she would have denied that promotion and keep Boimler under her thumb.
We know from Mariner's own promotion that Captain Freeman isn't above making a troublesome subordinate miserable.
To answer your question Captain Freeman Beckett’s trying to fix the root of the problem
0:16 I never watched Star Trek before this but is that a reference to the original series pumping out new episodes every week?
It must be
Did I just see a bottle of elmers glue?Seeing him scream when he sees in front of the captain.
2:17 that moment killed me
Boimler’s lucky that they haven’t fed him to Armus yet.
Don’t you need to press the badge to talk back?
If I remember correctly not when someone else is calling you.
@@goliathprojects7354 Yes, especially if someone else is calling you. Taht's like someone calling your cell phone and being able to hear everything you do despite the fact that you never answered.
I think he hit it when he was taking his shirt off
@@shadekerensky3691 I suspect it was an override from command. They were leaving and knew they had people on the planet, tried hailing them. got ghosted, so they overrode the requirement to pick up. Or perhaps calls from the bridge always override everything.
So why was Beckett so hellbent on no one knowing the Captain is her mom? They don't show this show here in Iceland, can only watch clips here on youtube.
No clue either but my guesses are:
1 - She wants to be the "cool" rulebreaker. Having a mother as a superior kinda undermines her rule breaking since there's no real danger in breaking rules if your parent is in charge of the ship.
2 - Suspicion of Nepotism (Boimler outright says they can break all the rules they want because here mother is in charge.)
I know this was 3 months ago, but basically it went both ways. Beckett wanted the freedom to break any rule she wanted without the expectation of being professional. The Captain did not want anyone to know she was the mother of the most demerited member on the ship. In this very episode, Beckett is constantly hounded by other officers who are sucking up to her so they can get closer to the captain.
@1:43 The minute he said that she should've rushed him & told him to keep his mouth shut and I should know I work for the state of Maryland under the secretary of the state. Anyone finds out that my mom & dad knows the secretary it will be the end of that.
How come Beckett's relationship with her dad is never explored
it seems like mariner is not really close to the father. given that his job is a 4 star admiral in starfleet she has even more reasons to not embarass him.
Can't believe that they didn't get literally fired by StarFleet and put in to prison for the rest of space-time
Mariner has a bit of immunity since she's related to captain. Boilmer gets a bit of that immunity due to being her best friend
@@GOldenPROdigy115 and the captain should have been expelled from StarFleet for such actions if she can't keep her daughter and boilmer under control... Well or it's just bad writing to make it funny like in discovery and Picard
@@FQP-7024 it's just bad writing, trust me
@@samcochran8203 yup thought so
if not being punished correctly for breaking protocol is sign of bad writing, the entire franchise would be put in question