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Great video! A few comments: 1) I do wish that, had the Archie sonic series continued, Amy gives up on sonic. This is taking cue from the British sonic comics where the team felt that amy more or less had a schoolgirl/pop singer fangirl crush on sonic. She grew up in that story. I see the archie Amy doing the same. She will be remembered as among the greatest heroes of her time, and more importantly, Amy can find her own true love (who is closer to her age both physically and mentally). 2) I like how you point out how amy encourages knuckles, dosn't doubt his goal in life. Rouge, the character who has a....complicated relationship with knuckles, DOES. Its not Rouge was intentionally downplaying Knuckles's commitment, I think she was genuinely, in her own way, worried about his task that makes him isolated, but the way she voiced it does not endear her to Knuckles. Whether or not they will end up as romantic dates, its moments like that that make me think "Perhaps they wouldn't or cant be romantic partners because they have too many differences." Thoughts? 3)Will you cover Sally Acorn? and if so, would you analysis the intended romance between her and Nicole, and how that differs from her and sonic?
Amy Rose from Fleetway's Sonic The Comic used a crossbow because her hammer hadn't been invented. She was second in command of the Freedom Fighters. I am glad to see that Archie Amy went through character development too.
What I really love about Archie Amy is that while she clearly loves Sonic, she still has a pretty good relationship with Sally, and there really hasn't been any animosity between the 2. It's super ironic since both characters' fans have the biggest beef in the entire Sonic community.
That and the fact that she has relationships and a life outside of Sonic. She and Tails actually get to go to school together (while filler), it was cute to see how they were navigating that kind of life together as brief as it was.
Hey just to say that amy is 12 while sonic is 15...idk for them but im pretty sure that it isn't fine in our world...well they CAN wait when they are adult but until then....
I think the best part of these videos is that, at the end of each one, I'm reminded why I love the characters and stories so much. These are probably my favourite analysis videos on the Sonic series at the moment, so thank you for making them!
I love that Flynn and company were able to elevate Amy to a main character without a massive retcon, and without trying to shpe-horn her into a role she doesn't really fit. I know it's been said before, but in Forces and the first couple IDW arcs, it feels like she's filling in for Sally, which does her a real disservice. Speaking of, I'm glad they never took the obvious route and made her and Sally rivals a la Betty and Veronica (ironic, being made by Archie), or that raising up one meant having to tear down the other- we get enough of that in the comments. Instead, Amy just gets to be a fun, cute, uplifting hero without any of the baggage that most of the other characters had.
The first couple IDW arcs? The whole IDW comics Amy has been filling in like Sally. Even after the part of Amy giving the leadership direction to Jewel, she still has those leadership traits and that generic personality of being the "girl" of the team. These characteristics fit Sally perfectly, but they look horrible on Amy, especially since SEGA forbade Amy from falling in love with Sonic again. And don't tell me "but Amy is still in love with Sonic in the comics", of course she is, but now she doesn't run after Sonic or perform any comedy act when she's near him as she normally does, at no point in the games show us a moment where Amy stopped doing that, without mentioning that said characteristic made her character unique. It's as if you said that removing Rouge's obsession with jewels or removing the Chaotix's obsession with money out of nowhere is "character development" when it isn't, you're just removing the characteristic that made your characters charmy and on top of that, you don't show any explanation of how they changed their personality, as if it was a sassy retcon. Don't come at me with that "character development" in the games, she never had it, they always showed her as a character obsessed with Sonic. "What about Forces?" Bro literally all the characters had a personality outside of character, just look at Tails and Sonic in that game "Heroes showed that Amy is a great leader" If we follow that logic, then Sonic also has the ability to be a leader of an entire resistance, just like Rouge and Vector. Exactly, it doesn't make sense, Amy was only the ringleader of her group of friends who were a six year old rabbit and Big being Big, are you really going to tell me that's why she has the ability to be the leader of an entire restoration just like that? Not to mention that SEGA completely abandoned team Rose and everyone considers that Heroes had one of the worst Amy...
@@criticalbuddy524To be fair, that stuff was Amy’s in the first place. She still tells people off like she did in the 2000s and 2010s. Amy was not originally just a joke and her relationship with Sonic was intended to be taken seriously in the very beginning.
@@kendraroth1276 "her relationship with sonic was supossed to be taken seriously at the beggining" Nah I've just read this and I knew the reply wasn't worth it, but I'm doing it anyways. Amy was supposed to be like a pink Sonic, who would carry her hammer to chase Sonic because she was madly in love with him, and Sonic would run away trying to avoid her. That dynamic was always like that, look at Adventure, Advance 3, Rush, Battle, Heroes, are you really going to tell me that something serious was planned? Where did you get that information from? If you ask any Sonictuber about that, everyone will agree that the romantic relationship was always intended to be comedic. "She still tells people off like 2000s" if you mean her leadership characteristics, I've already explained that, tell me other game apart of Heroes where she showed those.
@ “Amy was supposed to be chasing Sonic around with her hammer”? Are you sure about that? She didn’t get that hammer until several years after she debuted and was introduced as Sonic’s official girlfriend. Fighters was the very first time Amy had a hammer and she doesn’t use it anymore than anyone else does. Then it would later transfer to future versions of her character. In CD Amy was canonized and was based on her original Manga self, but without dating Sonic. She was just a damsel in distress and later, she spent the rest of the Classic era, maturing and growing out of her Fangirl crush. Then in the Adventure series, She has her first arc where she grows independent from Sonic. She used to be a little Shy about her crush, she dreamed about being with him but not saying anything out loud. By Adventure 2, she became more open her crush but only references it when Sonic wanted to know about her encounter with Shadow. However years later starting from Sonic X and Heroes, She became more crazy about her crush due to sexism and Sega listening to the fandom. But She only used her hammer a couple times, most of which he did something to make her angry. Thanks to society slowly becoming less sexist, she hadn’t done it all in the 2010s and in the Boom series and Lost World. she is treated more seriously. Even during Sonic X, there was an implied get together, with them even playing a love song. As for telling people off, I was referring to her calling Wave out in IDW and Her behavior in the Boom series and Prime.
@@criticalbuddy524 I'm sick of people saying Amy had character development in the recent games too- we've never seen her grow self-aware with her crush- they just sweep it under the rug, and every self-confidence, brash and bold trait of her is just non-existent.
Archie Amy is hilarious. “Hey, guys, how are we supposed to integrate this caricature of a 1990s lovestruck Japanese schoolgirl into our cyberpunk-fantasy post-apocalypse furry war drama?” “Change NOTHING.”
YES SHE IS THE BEST!!! The Archie Amy was the funniest incarnation of the character and the best developed. I never find her annoying and she was also inspiring even after the reboot. Treasure team tango is to this day my favourite Sonic comic ever. Remember what they took from us.
"Why Archie Knuckles is the best Knuckles" "Why Archie Shadow is the best Shadow" "Why Archie Silver is the best Silver" "Why Archie Tails is the best Tails" "Why Archie Amy is the best Amy" Guys I think he really likes IDW
since we've gotten the major game characters done (Unless I'm forgetting soemthing), I'm guessing we're either moving onto the other freedom fighters next, or Eggman. not gonna lie, i think archie Eggman is the best eggman. I love the mix of comical and menacing with him, how we'll go issues not really talking about his history only to just casually bring it up as a reminder this goofy guy is an absolute monster noone can trust and who WILL make your life hell if he feels like it.
This dissertation level of analysis of this series has been one of my favorite things to watch. Its funny because im not even a big sonic fan but i've become so invested in watching these videos you're making a fan out of me by the month!
Well welcome! Guys like Lowart helping me analyze the franchise is part of what really got me into it too a few years ago. I’ve been hooked on his videos since the first one 😊
@@Future_Vantas it still will be since none of the other characters are really the same in the reboot, as talked about here. that's a long ways off tho
Oh, man, I'm so glad that the recommendations gave me this channel. When I was a teenager, I was such a big fan of Archie's Sonic. Your character videos are great, don't stop!
11:08 That whole part about grief brought me to tears I looked up from my phone as I was watching this in the background and started crying cause it’s so real. You’ve done a great job conveying the emotion to me
Something I loved about the Archie comics is that each of the characters felt important. A lot of these great stories came out when the side characters were shoved into games with little reasoning, or if there WAS reason, they'd be reduced to base character traits and little else (poor poor Knuckles). But in the comics they grew into different people alongside Sonic and contributed significantly to the war effort. It felt like things didn't always just have to come down to Sonic and maybe one other important character of the arc. And even then, outside of direct confrontations with Eggman, Sonic wasn't as much of the "trump card" as you'd think he would be. He'd be the one to finish things usually, but not the one putting in the most effort all the time.
She's related to the royal family of Mercia although she wouldn't be considered a princess as she doesn't meet any of the requirements per the accepted definition. She's not the daughter of the king, married to a prince, or the ruler of a subject state. That said, she's definitely hedgehog nobility and is technically a higher social class than Sonic is.
@@kylepessell1350 technically no seeing how sonics uncle was knighted and sonic himself was also made at knight. Unfortunately, he had that taken away, but he was offered it back. and seeing how being granted knighthood makes you the top of if not at the top of nobility, they are kind of even.
@@jasondobbins9735 I'm not sure why you think that knighthood is the top of nobility. Knights are the lowest rank of nobility in the feudal system being the only rank that a commoner can be promoted into. They serve under higher ranked nobles sometimes even without owning any land of their own. They are the rank and file of the noble class and their status isn't even always hereditary.
I appreciate all the sonic content u provide ! this has made my past couple work weeks an ease to get by listening to everything on your channel about Archie Sonic
omg I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but this video was SO so good?? You laid out your points in such a clear succinct way and backed those thoughts up with some stellar examples. You've got me intrigued about the comics honestly might check them out now.
Two videos in the span of a few days? I’m impressed, i always love to see Archie appreciation, I hope to see more about the freedom fighter characters in the future
2 videos in one week? Youve spoiled us lol. Archie Amy has always been fun. I especially love when she was made a proper freedom fighter. It was very endearing to see how far she came. You cook as always 🙏
I used to hate Amy Rose when her one trait was "love obsessed stalker". Now she's one of my favourite girl characters of all! Defending Sonic and Sally's date went a long way to winning me over. Ive always had a soft spot for people who just want their loved one to be happy, whatever form it takes. I love how she's girly but so battle-ready (like you said "ready to murder" 😂). She's a leader AND the heart, and it's amazing how well rounded she is as a character now. Her expressions on the page are so fun, you can tell the artists enjoy drawing her. Plus she fights with a giant hammer and that's just cool.
I will say even though the soft reboot abruptly ended her character progression, like ALL the other plotlines and story arcs, I’m really glad you pointed out how even post Super Genesis Wave she retained much of why her Archie counterpart was special especially compared to the others. Sonic and Sally for instance lost much of their nuance but Amy felt like she made a natural transition into things. I like the soft reboot era but man… so much of what they were building up to completely lost 😭😢
To be honest it was like that before I feel that mostly was true sort of or maybe only in fan service in the past that's what a lot though but look deeper in someone character you may find more than what you know this me really saying don't believe anything you hear on the internet about on character theirs a good chance their way of how they view that person or character (know it fiction but you know what I mean hopefully) (Not a fan of making these comments a paragraph trust me if there was a way I could say this all in one word or one sentence that would great)
Lowart, thank you so much for shedding light on this series. You’ve unlocked a deeply personal connection and appreciation for a comic that I could never talk about with kids growing up. The fact that you’ve gone so in depth on these characters makes me incredibly happy.
so glad to finally see you talk about a bit of reboot archie too! I hope you do more of that material, I'd love to see your thoughts on characters like the egg bosses or Eclipse
I haven't read the reboot yet; I'm not ready to face the end of a story I love and start a new one. But you've given me hope that there are things to look forward to. Thank you.
I was gonna make a comment about her Sonic the Comic version and recommend the Johnny Vector video, and I still recommend that video But the bit around halfway in the video made me feel on the verge of tearing up, and reminded me of why I love her. She'll believe in others even when they don't believe in themselves
I love these videos, because they show me a version of these characters that I've never seen before. I never read the comics and I wouldn't even know where to start or if I have the patience to read them...
To me, Archie Amy and IDW Amy are very similar. If anything, it feels like IDW Amy is just like how it was with the Archie reboot...as in mostly the same. Maybe she takes things a bit more seriously and her love for Sonic takes a bit more of a backseat most of the time but from what I've seen, she's amazing and adorable in both contexts. I personally think IDW did a lot of characters some good while adding a few great newcomers in Tangle and Whisper (who should totally get together) but Amy never needed any fixing. She's great just the way she is in Archie and IDW.
You somehow managed for the first time to make me interested in something from the reboot, that's an accomplishment. Now I really wonder what Blaze will be up to in her video. I really wonder what would have happened had Ken Penders made stories with her, can you imagine what that would have looked like?
@@sarafontanini7051 With opportunities for shakespearian royal drama, intensive multigenerational family and lineage drama with supernatural elements without having to bother with Sonic on a different world that'd be a clean slate to make all his own, you bet he'd do something with her.
As someone who grew up with Sonic in the 2000s, Amy was always a character I was okay with a best and hated at worst. I never found her “chasing Sonic everywhere” gag and “hit him with hammer” slapstick to be funny or endearing. So I was pleasantly surprised when I started reading Archie, and found Amy to be not only tolerable, but straight up fun and cute! 9:15 This one moment was the one where I went from liking Archie Amy to loving her. I could never imagine Game!Amy (At the time) or Sonic X!Amy acting the same way in that situation, and I gained a lot of respect for her. 10:10 I kinda didn’t fully realize the fact that she was still doing her thing even in the back. Thanks for pointing it out! What a trooper! 11:38 Thank you for highlighting this specific scene! It’s gone down as one of my favorite scenes in the book, and maybe even the Sonic franchise. Seeing Tails and Amy, the goofy kids, step up, metaphorical slap him in the face and inspire Sonic to get back up the same way he has inspired them all these years and strengthening their relationship was so touching to me. I think I just like her in this book because the comedy and rage involving her isn’t annoying. She isn’t chasing Sonic 24-7 begging him to marry her, and she isn’t attacking him or getting really mad at anyone for thinking that they won’t end up together. Her rage is saved for her enemies, and that makes her a mighty force to be wary of. And if she DOES get mad at her friends, it’s for a good reason. Overall, Archie Amy is great in both continuities, and she’s my favorite version of the character. Thank you so much for making all these Archie Sonic videos! It’s nice to hear someone seriously talk about it without resorting to low-hanging fruit or Penders every 20 seconds or power-scaling videos by people who probably never read the book and only read wiki articles.
You know Ian he's understand something about Sonic like even though Amy's plot relevance hasn't gone up her character has you don't need to be the main center of attention to have a good character some of my favorite characters actually end up being the side character because the main character has a blank spots in their personality sometimes for people to insert themselves into but side characters they have their own thing going on which makes them actually more relatable.
Can't help but wonder if Lowart will ever talk about Archie Megaman and the absolute masterpiece of a crossover with Archie Sonic that was Worlds Collide.
11:45 Technically Sonic wasn't about to give up, it was just a fake-out. Sonic never gives up after all. Flynn has many strengths, but this time he just wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
I don't know if I would believe Sonic's own words in this moment. The way I understand this moment is more like Sonic's trying to hide that he was going to give up by playing it off like he was just faking it. Especially with how he's locked the door and depressed in his own room, it makes the possibility of giving up closer than Sonic himself admits.
I'm 80% sure Flynn said it on Bumblekast that Sonic wasn't going give up. Sonic never gives up that's his thing. Besides Sonic wouldn't lie to his closest friends just for ego sake. Last prove is that he wouldn't come up with 2 teams on the spot, he was already figuring plan out. Flynn wanted inspirational moment for Tails & Amy, but he didn't want Sonic to give up (possible wasn't allowed to). Hence this fake-out moment.
On her relationship with Sonic. Karl Bollers did actually want to have Sonic and Amy be a couple. Just a little trivia note. I think with Amy, in relation to the reboot, the phrase "the more things change, the more they stay the same" applies.
so glad that didn't happen not the biggest sonic x amy fan here, plus I'm more invested in sonic and sally as a couple do their greater history and being around the same age and their flynn era rapport
in the context of the archie comics, I'm pretty glad that this didn't happen. If she can be just as fun and not wanting to be the main focus of sonic's life as she was in the comics, but without the weird implication of her mental age and such, I think it could be potentially a fun dynamic.
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 Not really, he literally erased his own children from existence and did he ever tell Sally about it? I hear His relationship with many of his friends, including Tails was terrible when he became an adult, partly because he hated the responsibilities that came with marrying Sally. Speaking of which, Sonic and Sally don’t fit each other at all. They contradict each other. Sonic just wants to run and be free, he doesn’t belong as a member of the monarchy. Narratively speaking, Sally would have made more sense as Knuckles’s partner since He actually fits Sally’s goals and occupation. He speaks like a kidnapper when talking to Tails’s parents and He was quite jerkish in general. If you want a characteristic humanized version of Sonic, watch Prime, The Paramount movies, read IDW or maybe the boom series.
Ik you’ve been doing Archie sonic a lot, but it’d be cool seeing a series about the 2D boost sonic games similar to the ones you did on the 3D ones. Rush, rush adventure, colors ds and generations 3ds all deserve more love imo. Love the vids lately tho!
I'm glad most of the people like Ian Flynn was able to continue working with the IDW comic but still it is kind of sad that after the home metal plague arc I haven't seen the comic reach as high of a peak as of recently though that's also because I don't personally read every issue that comes out and have it shown to me with like one or two TH-camrs like this. Still wish we could have seen the finale of the Archie comics and those sadly it's mainly due to a lawsuit that came out of ridiculous circumstances, I hope one day it can be truly finished or at the very least have the story concepts revealed and explain how it all ends but at the same time I would like to hold hope for the day to actually happen and see the comics be completed after running for so long
That is very well made of her character and her way of helping Knuckles about it. (It felt good, in many ways!) (But is the IDW Characters of Sonic like it too?)
I like how Archie's Amy of the later volumes basically kept existing on IDW. They're very similarly written. She doesn't have the same baggage in IDW, of course, but the spirit remains.
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Man, that it a lot of videos for Archie characters... I like it.
What about Sonic the comic Amy Rose?
Great video! A few comments: 1) I do wish that, had the Archie sonic series continued, Amy gives up on sonic. This is taking cue from the British sonic comics where the team felt that amy more or less had a schoolgirl/pop singer fangirl crush on sonic. She grew up in that story. I see the archie Amy doing the same. She will be remembered as among the greatest heroes of her time, and more importantly, Amy can find her own true love (who is closer to her age both physically and mentally).
2) I like how you point out how amy encourages knuckles, dosn't doubt his goal in life. Rouge, the character who has a....complicated relationship with knuckles, DOES. Its not Rouge was intentionally downplaying Knuckles's commitment, I think she was genuinely, in her own way, worried about his task that makes him isolated, but the way she voiced it does not endear her to Knuckles. Whether or not they will end up as romantic dates, its moments like that that make me think "Perhaps they wouldn't or cant be romantic partners because they have too many differences." Thoughts?
3)Will you cover Sally Acorn? and if so, would you analysis the intended romance between her and Nicole, and how that differs from her and sonic?
Amy Rose from Fleetway's Sonic The Comic used a crossbow because her hammer hadn't been invented. She was second in command of the Freedom Fighters. I am glad to see that Archie Amy went through character development too.
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What I really love about Archie Amy is that while she clearly loves Sonic, she still has a pretty good relationship with Sally, and there really hasn't been any animosity between the 2. It's super ironic since both characters' fans have the biggest beef in the entire Sonic community.
That and the fact that she has relationships and a life outside of Sonic. She and Tails actually get to go to school together (while filler), it was cute to see how they were navigating that kind of life together as brief as it was.
Hey just to say that amy is 12 while sonic is 15...idk for them but im pretty sure that it isn't fine in our world...well they CAN wait when they are adult but until then....
Dude is straight up COOKING with these documentaries on PEAK Sonic characters. I respect it a lot.
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dude, right? It's unreal how good these videos are!!
I agree
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@ keep him in the kitchen, because the FIRE never stops
Both Lowart and Chaomix dropped an amy video within seconds of eachother! My girls getting love today
I personally adore Amy and Sally’s friendship and how it developed over the comic’s run. Legitimately one of my favorite duos in the comic's history.
cant wait for the fabled Monkey Kahn video
Why Archie Monkey Kahn is the best Monkey Kahn
Can't wait for the fabled Mina Mongoose video!!! :D /copium copium copium-
Can’t wait for the ever integral Sleuth Doggy Dawg video.
@@abrahamt.6954 why Archie monkey Khan is the only monkey Kahn.
Monkey Khan is a dope character honestly. I would love that
I think the best part of these videos is that, at the end of each one, I'm reminded why I love the characters and stories so much. These are probably my favourite analysis videos on the Sonic series at the moment, so thank you for making them!
I love that Flynn and company were able to elevate Amy to a main character without a massive retcon, and without trying to shpe-horn her into a role she doesn't really fit. I know it's been said before, but in Forces and the first couple IDW arcs, it feels like she's filling in for Sally, which does her a real disservice. Speaking of, I'm glad they never took the obvious route and made her and Sally rivals a la Betty and Veronica (ironic, being made by Archie), or that raising up one meant having to tear down the other- we get enough of that in the comments. Instead, Amy just gets to be a fun, cute, uplifting hero without any of the baggage that most of the other characters had.
The first couple IDW arcs? The whole IDW comics Amy has been filling in like Sally. Even after the part of Amy giving the leadership direction to Jewel, she still has those leadership traits and that generic personality of being the "girl" of the team. These characteristics fit Sally perfectly, but they look horrible on Amy, especially since SEGA forbade Amy from falling in love with Sonic again.
And don't tell me "but Amy is still in love with Sonic in the comics", of course she is, but now she doesn't run after Sonic or perform any comedy act when she's near him as she normally does, at no point in the games show us a moment where Amy stopped doing that, without mentioning that said characteristic made her character unique. It's as if you said that removing Rouge's obsession with jewels or removing the Chaotix's obsession with money out of nowhere is "character development" when it isn't, you're just removing the characteristic that made your characters charmy and on top of that, you don't show any explanation of how they changed their personality, as if it was a sassy retcon.
Don't come at me with that "character development" in the games, she never had it, they always showed her as a character obsessed with Sonic. "What about Forces?" Bro literally all the characters had a personality outside of character, just look at Tails and Sonic in that game "Heroes showed that Amy is a great leader" If we follow that logic, then Sonic also has the ability to be a leader of an entire resistance, just like Rouge and Vector. Exactly, it doesn't make sense, Amy was only the ringleader of her group of friends who were a six year old rabbit and Big being Big, are you really going to tell me that's why she has the ability to be the leader of an entire restoration just like that? Not to mention that SEGA completely abandoned team Rose and everyone considers that Heroes had one of the worst Amy...
@@criticalbuddy524To be fair, that stuff was Amy’s in the first place. She still tells people off like she did in the 2000s and 2010s.
Amy was not originally just a joke and her relationship with Sonic was intended to be taken seriously in the very beginning.
@@kendraroth1276 "her relationship with sonic was supossed to be taken seriously at the beggining"
Nah I've just read this and I knew the reply wasn't worth it, but I'm doing it anyways. Amy was supposed to be like a pink Sonic, who would carry her hammer to chase Sonic because she was madly in love with him, and Sonic would run away trying to avoid her. That dynamic was always like that, look at Adventure, Advance 3, Rush, Battle, Heroes, are you really going to tell me that something serious was planned? Where did you get that information from? If you ask any Sonictuber about that, everyone will agree that the romantic relationship was always intended to be comedic. "She still tells people off like 2000s" if you mean her leadership characteristics, I've already explained that, tell me other game apart of Heroes where she showed those.
@ “Amy was supposed to be chasing Sonic around with her hammer”? Are you sure about that?
She didn’t get that hammer until several years after she debuted and was introduced as Sonic’s official girlfriend. Fighters was the very first time Amy had a hammer and she doesn’t use it anymore than anyone else does. Then it would later transfer to future versions of her character.
In CD Amy was canonized and was based on her original Manga self, but without dating Sonic. She was just a damsel in distress and later, she spent the rest of the Classic era, maturing and growing out of her Fangirl crush.
Then in the Adventure series, She has her first arc where she grows independent from Sonic. She used to be a little Shy about her crush, she dreamed about being with him but not saying anything out loud.
By Adventure 2, she became more open her crush but only references it when Sonic wanted to know about her encounter with Shadow.
However years later starting from Sonic X and Heroes, She became more crazy about her crush due to sexism and Sega listening to the fandom. But She only used her hammer a couple times, most of which he did something to make her angry.
Thanks to society slowly becoming less sexist, she hadn’t done it all in the 2010s and in the Boom series and Lost World. she is treated more seriously.
Even during Sonic X, there was an implied get together, with them even playing a love song.
As for telling people off, I was referring to her calling Wave out in IDW and Her behavior in the Boom series and Prime.
@@criticalbuddy524 I'm sick of people saying Amy had character development in the recent games too- we've never seen her grow self-aware with her crush- they just sweep it under the rug, and every self-confidence, brash and bold trait of her is just non-existent.
8:19 you know I never thought I’d see Amy talk to Shadow like that. I know that he needed to hear it and Amy is the one who keeps him in check
Which explains the light mobius version of Shadow.
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Not to be rude I hate these type of comments 😅
Archie Amy is hilarious. “Hey, guys, how are we supposed to integrate this caricature of a 1990s lovestruck Japanese schoolgirl into our cyberpunk-fantasy post-apocalypse furry war drama?” “Change NOTHING.”
YES SHE IS THE BEST!!! The Archie Amy was the funniest incarnation of the character and the best developed. I never find her annoying and she was also inspiring even after the reboot. Treasure team tango is to this day my favourite Sonic comic ever. Remember what they took from us.
"Why Archie Knuckles is the best Knuckles"
"Why Archie Shadow is the best Shadow"
"Why Archie Silver is the best Silver"
"Why Archie Tails is the best Tails"
"Why Archie Amy is the best Amy"
Guys I think he really likes IDW
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Nah, he's probably a fan of the Fleetway comics.
I mean, she has those three beautiful arches of hair, so she's the best by default
You may as well call it hot chick heaven
since we've gotten the major game characters done (Unless I'm forgetting soemthing), I'm guessing we're either moving onto the other freedom fighters next, or Eggman.
not gonna lie, i think archie Eggman is the best eggman. I love the mix of comical and menacing with him, how we'll go issues not really talking about his history only to just casually bring it up as a reminder this goofy guy is an absolute monster noone can trust and who WILL make your life hell if he feels like it.
2:00 knuckles being more of a side character in his own spin-off series? Surely that won’t happen ever again…
I’ll never forgive that show 😂
Treasure Team Tango is a top 5 Archie storyline
This dissertation level of analysis of this series has been one of my favorite things to watch. Its funny because im not even a big sonic fan but i've become so invested in watching these videos you're making a fan out of me by the month!
Well welcome! Guys like Lowart helping me analyze the franchise is part of what really got me into it too a few years ago. I’ve been hooked on his videos since the first one 😊
Great to see you finally talk about some reboot material.
Right? I thought the reboot would be its own video. Nice to see it in a character analysis
@@Future_Vantas it still will be since none of the other characters are really the same in the reboot, as talked about here. that's a long ways off tho
"More important than Larry Lynx, less important than Tommy Trutle."
Ouch.
I'm loving this series. Brings back all the memories and you do an amazing job as always.
Ten bucks says Archie Eggman is next
Oh, man, I'm so glad that the recommendations gave me this channel. When I was a teenager, I was such a big fan of Archie's Sonic. Your character videos are great, don't stop!
11:08 That whole part about grief brought me to tears I looked up from my phone as I was watching this in the background and started crying cause it’s so real. You’ve done a great job conveying the emotion to me
Something I loved about the Archie comics is that each of the characters felt important. A lot of these great stories came out when the side characters were shoved into games with little reasoning, or if there WAS reason, they'd be reduced to base character traits and little else (poor poor Knuckles).
But in the comics they grew into different people alongside Sonic and contributed significantly to the war effort. It felt like things didn't always just have to come down to Sonic and maybe one other important character of the arc. And even then, outside of direct confrontations with Eggman, Sonic wasn't as much of the "trump card" as you'd think he would be. He'd be the one to finish things usually, but not the one putting in the most effort all the time.
You get it
Its kinda crazy amy doesn't get the spotlight early on until years later, meanwhile in the Sonic the Comic series, amy is a core character day one
I used to love collecting the Archie Sonic comics as a kid back in the 90s and 2000s and Archie Amy is technically a princess if I remember correctly.
Amy’s cousin Rob O hedge is a prince. She’s not royalty herself but is related to it
She's related to the royal family of Mercia although she wouldn't be considered a princess as she doesn't meet any of the requirements per the accepted definition. She's not the daughter of the king, married to a prince, or the ruler of a subject state. That said, she's definitely hedgehog nobility and is technically a higher social class than Sonic is.
@@kylepessell1350 technically no seeing how sonics uncle was knighted and sonic himself was also made at knight. Unfortunately, he had that taken away, but he was offered it back. and seeing how being granted knighthood makes you the top of if not at the top of nobility, they are kind of even.
@@jasondobbins9735 I'm not sure why you think that knighthood is the top of nobility. Knights are the lowest rank of nobility in the feudal system being the only rank that a commoner can be promoted into. They serve under higher ranked nobles sometimes even without owning any land of their own. They are the rank and file of the noble class and their status isn't even always hereditary.
I appreciate all the sonic content u provide ! this has made my past couple work weeks an ease to get by listening to everything on your channel about Archie Sonic
Archie just has the best characters man
omg I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but this video was SO so good?? You laid out your points in such a clear succinct way and backed those thoughts up with some stellar examples. You've got me intrigued about the comics honestly might check them out now.
I hope future sonic media gets deeper like archie did in its golden ages
Two videos in the span of a few days? I’m impressed, i always love to see Archie appreciation, I hope to see more about the freedom fighter characters in the future
In my view, she is THE most relatable character so far
2 videos in one week? Youve spoiled us lol. Archie Amy has always been fun. I especially love when she was made a proper freedom fighter. It was very endearing to see how far she came. You cook as always 🙏
I used to hate Amy Rose when her one trait was "love obsessed stalker". Now she's one of my favourite girl characters of all! Defending Sonic and Sally's date went a long way to winning me over. Ive always had a soft spot for people who just want their loved one to be happy, whatever form it takes. I love how she's girly but so battle-ready (like you said "ready to murder" 😂). She's a leader AND the heart, and it's amazing how well rounded she is as a character now. Her expressions on the page are so fun, you can tell the artists enjoy drawing her.
Plus she fights with a giant hammer and that's just cool.
I just realized that Archie Sonic’s relationship with the game characters were really coming together but only when the series ended
Two Lowart in less then a week? LET'S MOTHER TRUNKING GO!!!!!!!!!
I was gonna say that
Mephiles: I want… to exist!
Scourge: Eh, I just wanna advertise stuff on TH-cam.
I will say even though the soft reboot abruptly ended her character progression, like ALL the other plotlines and story arcs, I’m really glad you pointed out how even post Super Genesis Wave she retained much of why her Archie counterpart was special especially compared to the others.
Sonic and Sally for instance lost much of their nuance but Amy felt like she made a natural transition into things. I like the soft reboot era but man… so much of what they were building up to completely lost 😭😢
the reboot has some fun things in it. Breezie, honey, the fish people, the egg bosses. But its hard to appreciate it in the face of what we lost...
The reboot was the best thing in my opinion.
@@mray4784If ya love neutered, blander versions of compelling characters and plotlines, maybe.
@@drekiskrek5008 I like my characters being consistence with the canon and not having the most stupid convoluted past.
i bet the last video of this series of why archie 'character' is the best 'character' is gonna be like we need to talk about this guy, rotor
It's crazy that Amy is actually 6 years younger that she looks like (by the end of Pre Reboot she's 17 but she's actually 11). At least in Pre Reboot
At least Amy's Not the obsessive Fangirl who Chases Sonic that much anymore.
To be honest it was like that before I feel that mostly was true sort of or maybe only in fan service in the past that's what a lot though but look deeper in someone character you may find more than what you know this me really saying don't believe anything you hear on the internet about on character theirs a good chance their way of how they view that person or character (know it fiction but you know what I mean hopefully) (Not a fan of making these comments a paragraph trust me if there was a way I could say this all in one word or one sentence that would great)
Lowart, thank you so much for shedding light on this series. You’ve unlocked a deeply personal connection and appreciation for a comic that I could never talk about with kids growing up. The fact that you’ve gone so in depth on these characters makes me incredibly happy.
there’s like zero chance of this happening but I’d kill for a video about Archie’s take on the AoSTH characters
so glad to finally see you talk about a bit of reboot archie too! I hope you do more of that material, I'd love to see your thoughts on characters like the egg bosses or Eclipse
I haven't read the reboot yet; I'm not ready to face the end of a story I love and start a new one. But you've given me hope that there are things to look forward to. Thank you.
I was gonna make a comment about her Sonic the Comic version and recommend the Johnny Vector video, and I still recommend that video
But the bit around halfway in the video made me feel on the verge of tearing up, and reminded me of why I love her. She'll believe in others even when they don't believe in themselves
Awesome video!! Loved that universe comic where the teams go head to head, was so funny seeing amy just go all gas no breaks
The Fuck? Mate, ain't no one ordering that many plates, you can rest lmao, but thanks anyway, another full meal for us
Dude churning these out one after another and im here for it, good shit.
I love these videos, because they show me a version of these characters that I've never seen before.
I never read the comics and I wouldn't even know where to start or if I have the patience to read them...
To me, Archie Amy and IDW Amy are very similar. If anything, it feels like IDW Amy is just like how it was with the Archie reboot...as in mostly the same. Maybe she takes things a bit more seriously and her love for Sonic takes a bit more of a backseat most of the time but from what I've seen, she's amazing and adorable in both contexts.
I personally think IDW did a lot of characters some good while adding a few great newcomers in Tangle and Whisper (who should totally get together) but Amy never needed any fixing. She's great just the way she is in Archie and IDW.
Archie Amy IS amazing but I really also like Sonic Adventure 1 Amy
*Two Amy videos in one day (other being Chaomix), plus two lowart Archie stuff in a week!?* We eating good 👍
You somehow managed for the first time to make me interested in something from the reboot, that's an accomplishment.
Now I really wonder what Blaze will be up to in her video. I really wonder what would have happened had Ken Penders made stories with her, can you imagine what that would have looked like?
i doubt penders would have done anything with her honestly
@@sarafontanini7051 With opportunities for shakespearian royal drama, intensive multigenerational family and lineage drama with supernatural elements without having to bother with Sonic on a different world that'd be a clean slate to make all his own, you bet he'd do something with her.
12:20 "....woops there goes gravity."
Thank you Lowart I love this so much! I always enjoyed these comics and having these breakdowns are amazing!
These last few videos are just an excuse for Lowart to use the new Frontiers Character Theme Songs.
Great video as always.
Every Lowart video is a banger . Keep it up!
W video, w script, and w ending, everything about what you said just made me nearly tear up over the archie sonic comics again 😂😅❤
Im subscribing
I love how the fandom thinks the archie versions are the best
They are by the way and I'm subscribing
Nothing more to say, another prove of why the archie comics are criminally underrated
Dude, you made an amazing video like allways
So fast with the uploads! Way past cool!! Looking forward to the next video
As someone who grew up with Sonic in the 2000s, Amy was always a character I was okay with a best and hated at worst. I never found her “chasing Sonic everywhere” gag and “hit him with hammer” slapstick to be funny or endearing. So I was pleasantly surprised when I started reading Archie, and found Amy to be not only tolerable, but straight up fun and cute!
9:15 This one moment was the one where I went from liking Archie Amy to loving her. I could never imagine Game!Amy (At the time) or Sonic X!Amy acting the same way in that situation, and I gained a lot of respect for her.
10:10 I kinda didn’t fully realize the fact that she was still doing her thing even in the back. Thanks for pointing it out! What a trooper!
11:38 Thank you for highlighting this specific scene! It’s gone down as one of my favorite scenes in the book, and maybe even the Sonic franchise. Seeing Tails and Amy, the goofy kids, step up, metaphorical slap him in the face and inspire Sonic to get back up the same way he has inspired them all these years and strengthening their relationship was so touching to me.
I think I just like her in this book because the comedy and rage involving her isn’t annoying. She isn’t chasing Sonic 24-7 begging him to marry her, and she isn’t attacking him or getting really mad at anyone for thinking that they won’t end up together. Her rage is saved for her enemies, and that makes her a mighty force to be wary of. And if she DOES get mad at her friends, it’s for a good reason. Overall, Archie Amy is great in both continuities, and she’s my favorite version of the character. Thank you so much for making all these Archie Sonic videos! It’s nice to hear someone seriously talk about it without resorting to low-hanging fruit or Penders every 20 seconds or power-scaling videos by people who probably never read the book and only read wiki articles.
I didn’t know Archie Amy was there and the Archie comics are strong
Also FINALLY some Reboot rep
Hot damn, two Lowart videos in one week? We’re eating good today boys
yesterday i was thinking "sally and amy would be really good friends if they met eachother" AND THEY ARE
BACK TO BACK LECTURES FROM PROFESSOR LOWART???? WE'RE JUICING AND JAMMING GOOD TODAY STUDENTS!!!
You know Ian he's understand something about Sonic like even though Amy's plot relevance hasn't gone up her character has you don't need to be the main center of attention to have a good character some of my favorite characters actually end up being the side character because the main character has a blank spots in their personality sometimes for people to insert themselves into but side characters they have their own thing going on which makes them actually more relatable.
2 LOWART SONIC VIDEO ESSAYS IN ONE WEEK????? BLESS
15:11 Wait what Amy knows the flute???
Oh yeah and it’s mystic yeah that’s cool but more importantly SHE KNOWS THE FLUTE???
Can't help but wonder if Lowart will ever talk about Archie Megaman and the absolute masterpiece of a crossover with Archie Sonic that was Worlds Collide.
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Achie Amy was a journey she had to fight and earn that spot. It hits because it's like at in real life. Earning the spot you deserve.
It's a shame IDW's run while visually appealing lacks Archie's storytelling both highs & lows.
10:54 - OK. That's fucking beautiful. This is the kind of thing I'd want to see in Superman.
Amy Rose is cute and funny confirmed?
"I love Sonic don't but I love you"
11:45 Technically Sonic wasn't about to give up, it was just a fake-out. Sonic never gives up after all.
Flynn has many strengths, but this time he just wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
I think it was as low as Sonic was going to get. Doesn’t take away from the moment, tho. He just needed a kick in the pants.
I don't know if I would believe Sonic's own words in this moment. The way I understand this moment is more like Sonic's trying to hide that he was going to give up by playing it off like he was just faking it. Especially with how he's locked the door and depressed in his own room, it makes the possibility of giving up closer than Sonic himself admits.
Sonic definitely wasn't just faking it- he was saving face
I'm 80% sure Flynn said it on Bumblekast that Sonic wasn't going give up. Sonic never gives up that's his thing.
Besides Sonic wouldn't lie to his closest friends just for ego sake. Last prove is that he wouldn't come up with 2 teams on the spot, he was already figuring plan out.
Flynn wanted inspirational moment for Tails & Amy, but he didn't want Sonic to give up (possible wasn't allowed to). Hence this fake-out moment.
“Hey Cory, Amy here”
Oh... well you can stay
On her relationship with Sonic. Karl Bollers did actually want to have Sonic and Amy be a couple. Just a little trivia note.
I think with Amy, in relation to the reboot, the phrase "the more things change, the more they stay the same" applies.
so glad that didn't happen
not the biggest sonic x amy fan here, plus I'm more invested in sonic and sally as a couple do their greater history and being around the same age and their flynn era rapport
in the context of the archie comics, I'm pretty glad that this didn't happen. If she can be just as fun and not wanting to be the main focus of sonic's life as she was in the comics, but without the weird implication of her mental age and such, I think it could be potentially a fun dynamic.
@@sarafontanini7051 Plus her getting aged up from 8 to 12/15(?), Sonic acknowledging that and finding that weird would make that really eghh
@@lifeisadrag7705 it comfried that she's 13
Me: Watches the Tails video thinking I’ll have to wait three weeks late
1 Day later
Me: Ohhhhhhhhhhh Baby!
Archie does every character well
Blaze would like a word
Not Sonic though.
@@kendraroth1276ESPECIALLY sonic
In fact its the most characterized human version of sonic
@@kendraroth1276especially Sonic lol
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 Not really, he literally erased his own children from existence and did he ever tell Sally about it?
I hear His relationship with many of his friends, including Tails was terrible when he became an adult, partly because he hated the responsibilities that came with marrying Sally.
Speaking of which, Sonic and Sally don’t fit each other at all. They contradict each other. Sonic just wants to run and be free, he doesn’t belong as a member of the monarchy. Narratively speaking, Sally would have made more sense as Knuckles’s partner since He actually fits Sally’s goals and occupation.
He speaks like a kidnapper when talking to Tails’s parents and He was quite jerkish in general.
If you want a characteristic humanized version of Sonic, watch Prime, The Paramount movies, read IDW or maybe the boom series.
I can't believe archie added sex to sonic 😭
Wow you just keep them coming huh!!! I love this omg ♥️🔥
Ik you’ve been doing Archie sonic a lot, but it’d be cool seeing a series about the 2D boost sonic games similar to the ones you did on the 3D ones. Rush, rush adventure, colors ds and generations 3ds all deserve more love imo. Love the vids lately tho!
That ending was straight up beautiful! 🥹
I'm glad most of the people like Ian Flynn was able to continue working with the IDW comic but still it is kind of sad that after the home metal plague arc I haven't seen the comic reach as high of a peak as of recently though that's also because I don't personally read every issue that comes out and have it shown to me with like one or two TH-camrs like this. Still wish we could have seen the finale of the Archie comics and those sadly it's mainly due to a lawsuit that came out of ridiculous circumstances, I hope one day it can be truly finished or at the very least have the story concepts revealed and explain how it all ends but at the same time I would like to hold hope for the day to actually happen and see the comics be completed after running for so long
The summoning salt of Sonic videos
Damn, Lowart really did just drop that cute and funny at the start there huh.
Based.
I should check out the Sonic Archie comics, they sound so good.
Dang you work fast it's only been a day
tails was waiting to be uploaded for a LOOONG time lol
That is very well made of her character and her way of helping Knuckles about it.
(It felt good, in many ways!)
(But is the IDW Characters of Sonic like it too?)
Archie Amy is definitely the best Amy.
Amy has Amazonian strength with her piko piko hammer.
I adore every video essay about Amy Rose with sweet passion!
And this one, is no explanation!👏C:
This video legit teared me up
I’ve never read the archie reboot but it sounds a lot like IDW amy and knux
I like how Archie's Amy of the later volumes basically kept existing on IDW. They're very similarly written. She doesn't have the same baggage in IDW, of course, but the spirit remains.
it hasnt even been a day and theres already another one, i just know this will be fire🗣🗣🗣🗣