The irony is completely lost on Kane isn’t it? We have this timeline where he was extremely harsh on JHF’s discipline last year and as soon as he goes to Port he acts like no one can criticise him and anyone that has criticised him in the past should be ashamed. What’s really confusing amongst all this is that he stands by his harsh criticism of Ginnivan last while giving JHF a free pass saying that the media should let kids grow and leave them alone? I actually don’t mind Kane’s calls a lot of the time but this one is so far off the mark
Haha 😂 agree. A Class idiot with regards to Punditry.. David King from my knowledge comments on stats and results not on how he feels about contracts and players off seasons
i heard what kingy said , he wasn't talking about what hinkley said , he was basically pointing the finger at Kane for starting issues with nmfc with his tweets, to take that statement from kingy and turn it around something about Hinkley and port is epic level of spin . but i guess you have to expect that from shock jock who is pretending to be jurno . Going back to hinkley , so he doesn't wan't his players criticized at at all i guess , may be best solution for port is to not play him untill he is reaches 28 years age ?
Kane started it? King was the one calling him a sook and a whinger when he requested a trade. It was "senior" players like zurhaar and ziebell taking shots on social media at a 19yo.
Wasn’t this the same guy that said rozee should of been picked over Walsh after his first season? Or the that Logan McDonald should of been picked over will Phillips after the kid was out for a full season with glandular fever? If the number 1 pick had of left port due to a lack of professionalism and home sickness after one season history tells us this dude would of been the most critical
Footy fans boo behaviour that they are (rightly or wrongly) offended by. Horne-Francis was a #1 pick, and most footy fans believe the #1 should stay at the club that he was selected by in the draft. He chose to leave, for whatever reason, and that is why he is being booed. He (and Port Adelaide) has offended, not just the Kanga's, but all footy fans, which is why other clubs supporters are participating in the booing. I am not a boo-er, and will not join in, but I do feel its a very big deal for a #1 to leave his first club. Nathan Buckley left the Bears and was heavily criticised and disliked by other club supporters for most of his career, Scully was a controversial deal, Tom Boyd (althought that move was not as controversial) he was envied by his new Bulldog teamates. On the other hand, Jack Watts (who stayed) was ruined by Melbourne, basically by over expectation and incompetence by the club. I think JHF (or his management) would claim the Kanga's would be repeating the Jack Watts debacle. Nick Riewolt stayed with the Saints, through thick and thin, and is highly regarded for his loyalty, unfortunately JHF will forever been seen to be at the otherer end of the scale.
You only have to look at the pressure and lack of support he had at NM during his first year there. It would have been isolating for him not having the support as a 18 year old kid that he should've had. Like Kane said, he made a brave decision to move, knowing he'd get hate for it, but he's playing better footy, at a better club, and actually has the support that he deserves as a 19 year old player.
@@peterharrison4841 nope he didn’t, you’re factually wrong, especially with everything happening at NM at that time they weren’t able to give him the support he deserved.
@@peterharrison4841 it was common knowledge... everyone knew about it so it's weird you're trying to deny what I said was true. Why do you think they sacked Noble in such an awkward way? Club was a mess, still is a mess in terms of higher ups but I digress and basically you're wrong.
King and north melbourne supporters are the ones who wont stop talking about it. King is the one repeatedly criticising jhf for his supposed lack of defense yet not so much of a peep about daicos who averages 1 tackle. North fans who create dedicated pages on social media calling him a sook and a flog before he even played a game for port.
@@troyjackson9743 He deserves the criticism mate. Also comparing him to Daicos, one is a brown brownlow favourite and one has barely played a complete game performance. 🤦♂️ Talk about losing all credibility.
Boy o boy I can’t stand Cornes. He really has it in for North….JHF had a two year contract at North and he decided that he wanted to go home. When JHF was at North he wasn’t a fan of JHF and now that he’s at Port he is suddenly going to be a superstar. Cornes needs to not so one sided if he is to be in the media..
Kane Cowherd once again misses the point. No one outside North would care about this except Kane kept making it a story every week. He’s so think skinned that when Sonja have him a tiny jab back he freaked out for a week. King rightfully said, everyone should be happy. Port got a happy JHF and North traded a guy that didn’t want to there plus got the Sheez, Wardlaw, and Port’s #1 next year. Don’t know why Kane can’t see that.
"King said everyone should be happy" this is the same king who called jhf a sook and a whinger when he requested a trade, who said north should hold him to ransom and play him in vfl for a year. Same king who selectively highlights the 2 bad plays he had in a game while conveniently forgetting he had the 3rd most tackles and 2nd most pressure acts in that game.
@@troyjackson9743 He literally in this video tried to blame everything on North. You honestly going to try and say that won't encourage more JHF booing. You are so bias you can't make one logical point.
@@Harry.89 again it wasnt kane that started it. It was king calling him a sook and a whinger when he asked for a trade. It was "senior" players like zurhaar and ziebell taking shots on social media at a 19yo. It was north fans creating dedicated pages on social media calling him a sook and a flog.
@@troyjackson9743 No it was JHF who started the entire thing by not acting like a professional. If he so desperately couldn't leave Adelaide then he never should have entered the AFL. It's not like living in Melbourne for a few years was a valid reason for him to act like he did. JHF acted like a spoilt brat, Kane is now also acting like a spoilt brat. They are getting what they deserve.
What a hypocrite Kane is. Spent his career in the media bagging out players and JHF whilst at North, but then wants to take the moral high ground saying that he is 'unapologetic for defending a player'. Turn it up Kane.
I'm a Port Adelaide fan and i understand if North Melbourne fan boo him that okay in my eye just don't know why everyone else is booing a 19 year old kid. And North Melbourne end up with Harry Sheezel he going to be a best player in AFL in the next couple of years
@@raphaelkoch1573 Very possible but Sheezel has shown more so far. If JHF gets his head in the game he will likely be a star but that is a big if at this point.
I hope jhf succeeds, but his lack of mental toughness so far is an indication of where he could head. It's extremely difficult to be a professional athlete these days and you need very thick skin, especially when you are a number 1 pick. I don't think anything David King has said is wrong, he is just pointing out observations, it was barely even opinion based.
@@LiamP589 an 18yo struggling with being booed every week and having dedicated pages on social media created by north fans calling him a sook and a flog? Oh the outrage.
If JHF wants to be a champion of the AFL, he needs to play the cards that he is dealt. It’s sucks that he is being booed at his matches but if he wants to be the best, he should use that negative feedback as motivation to improve further. I think nobody doubts he's raw talent but he is very inconsistent. That's both when he was at north melbourne and in the 5 rounds of 2023 at Port Adelaide
They just add fuel to the fire by policing who the fans shouldn't boo. Just accept that fans don't like how he carried himself and move on. Remind JHF that sports fans have short memories and by next season they will have forgotten about it.
@@raphaelkoch1573 not conveniently drop him for every game against sa teams despite playing game before and after twice. Played in pain all last year due to compressed arteries and decreased blood flow in his legs. Despite him telling north that it makes his pain worse they dropped him for not having an ice bath which compresses the arteries and restrict blood flow.
jhf did himself no favours last year. Nth would be no picnic to play at right now but that said he did act unprofessionally during his time there. As a high first round pick you should be doing everything to show you desire to improve and learn and nothing more. if he did that then claimed home sickness no one would be talking about it. however as a result of his attitude last year he will carry this baggage rightly or wrongly for his career
His attitude? Because 18yo are always so mature? He wanted to win and that frustration came out, north dropping him for missing an ice bath despite him telling them they make his pain worse. He was playing with pain all last year leading him to have major surgey on both his legs to decompress his arteries because there wasnt enough blood getting to his lower legs. Remind me again, dont ice baths constrict the blood vessels and reduce blood flow? Seems the 18yo knows more than norths medical experts.
3 months? He criticised him over the early celebrations the took the mickey out of himself when he admitted he was wrong about ginnivan and then was repeatedly defending him over the high frees debacle.
Anyone want to get a petition going for him not be on the media. Am a north fan and kingy's comments didn't make much sense but its because Kane had a crack at the north Melbourne supporters on Sunday when Ken didnt say anything about us - just the media - and even more stupid was we werent the ones even booing, its just been the other Melbourne teams because they also dislike what he did last year. The t thomas comparison to JHF is also ridiculous because they are completely different, JHF disrespected the club by not doing has job - he is paid to listen to the club to have an icebath - and thomas disrespected women and himself, which is obviously worse but not comparable.
To be honest Daniher, Hipwood & Cameron disrespected your club on the weekend. Can add Neale to that list too. Who cares that JHF left the Roos, it’s business. Probably says more about the culture there pre Clarkson than it does about JHF. The kid just got the job of his dreams and wants to quit 6months in. No star player has signed there for a good decade and Eddie wanted to ship them off to Tassie as you guys were a basket case.
He is paid to have an ice bath? What a load of crock. He was playing with pain all last year. He told north that the ice baths made his pain worse so they dropped him for it. Had to have major surgery on both legs to decompress his arteries because there wasnt enough blood getting to his lower legs. Remind me again dont ice baths constrict the blood vessels and reduce blood flow? Seems he knows mor than norths medical "experts"
Great players find a way, look at Oliver on the weekend, 9 touches at half time and finishes with a game high 37. Very rarely do players put together a complete star like 4 quarters. If JHF can play just 2 qrts like his 4th or 3rd vs Brissy rd1 in a single match. His game with go to an elite level.
It's amazing how out of touch the football media is with reality. The more you tell fans to stop booing a player, the more they want to do it. We've seen that with a lot of players in the past. If it was just ignored it wouldn't even be happening today.
Criticising a 19 year old every week and booing him every game, what are people try to accomplish? Do we want to push kids into mental health issues and perhaps make them depressed and suicidal? Have a crack initially if you disagree with his attitude then move on but making him a target constantly because you have issue with him makes you a pathetic person
JHF robbed the NMFC of a real number one draft pick and Kane can spin it all he likes the crowd boo him because of how he behaved as I believe he made the draft process a complete joke. Have a crack at him all you like he's supposed to be professional if he can't take it don't play its that simple. Secondly Kane needs to stop blaming the NMFC for how they handled him it was pretty obvious from his behaviour on the field that his heart wasn't in it for North he just wanted the bonus $$$$$$ and ran. Remember clubs don't drop people back to the 2nds if they're happy with how they are going. Those that think otherwise wait until you get pick one and they turn out a questionable dud. I think you would expect them to be able to chase down opponents with the ball, we all learned how to do that when we were 7 not 19.
I can tell you from being involved and playing footy that all clubs protect their young players from opposition abuse. Its just a fact of Australian football.
The irony is completely lost on Kane isn’t it? We have this timeline where he was extremely harsh on JHF’s discipline last year and as soon as he goes to Port he acts like no one can criticise him and anyone that has criticised him in the past should be ashamed. What’s really confusing amongst all this is that he stands by his harsh criticism of Ginnivan last while giving JHF a free pass saying that the media should let kids grow and leave them alone? I actually don’t mind Kane’s calls a lot of the time but this one is so far off the mark
It's just worth ignoring anything he says about Port Adelaide.
couldn't have said it better, nail on the head.
Yep, and Kane saying we can't criticise him just makes me dislike the kid more.
@@sonjakozman1699 You are so salty. Can't get JHF out of your head.
Haha 😂 agree. A Class idiot with regards to Punditry..
David King from my knowledge comments on stats and results not on how he feels about contracts and players off seasons
i heard what kingy said , he wasn't talking about what hinkley said , he was basically pointing the finger at Kane for starting issues with nmfc with his tweets, to take that statement from kingy and turn it around something about Hinkley and port is epic level of spin . but i guess you have to expect that from shock jock who is pretending to be jurno . Going back to hinkley , so he doesn't wan't his players criticized at at all i guess , may be best solution for port is to not play him untill he is reaches 28 years age ?
King wasn’t talking about Hinkley. Hinkley’s press conference was about King. 🤦♂️
Kane started it? King was the one calling him a sook and a whinger when he requested a trade. It was "senior" players like zurhaar and ziebell taking shots on social media at a 19yo.
Wasn’t this the same guy that said rozee should of been picked over Walsh after his first season? Or the that Logan McDonald should of been picked over will Phillips after the kid was out for a full season with glandular fever? If the number 1 pick had of left port due to a lack of professionalism and home sickness after one season history tells us this dude would of been the most critical
Same guy who pot-shotted Fisher McAsey every opportunity he got, when he was a 19 year old player struggling with personal issues at the time.
Kane who played 300 games in no. 18 presented it to JHF in rd.1 and said "think of me every game".
Oh boy Kane and king are gonna have a interesting show on Friday
Collingwood fans boo anything that moves
@@michaeljohn-ve3xg he is being booed by the entire league you spud.
Footy fans boo behaviour that they are (rightly or wrongly) offended by. Horne-Francis was a #1 pick, and most footy fans believe the #1 should stay at the club that he was selected by in the draft.
He chose to leave, for whatever reason, and that is why he is being booed. He (and Port Adelaide) has offended, not just the Kanga's, but all footy fans, which is why other clubs supporters are participating in the booing. I am not a boo-er, and will not join in, but I do feel its a very big deal for a #1 to leave his first club. Nathan Buckley left the Bears and was heavily criticised and disliked by other club supporters for most of his career, Scully was a controversial deal, Tom Boyd (althought that move was not as controversial) he was envied by his new Bulldog teamates.
On the other hand, Jack Watts (who stayed) was ruined by Melbourne, basically by over expectation and incompetence by the club. I think JHF (or his management) would claim the Kanga's would be repeating the Jack Watts debacle. Nick Riewolt stayed with the Saints, through thick and thin, and is highly regarded for his loyalty, unfortunately JHF will forever been seen to be at the otherer end of the scale.
You only have to look at the pressure and lack of support he had at NM during his first year there. It would have been isolating for him not having the support as a 18 year old kid that he should've had. Like Kane said, he made a brave decision to move, knowing he'd get hate for it, but he's playing better footy, at a better club, and actually has the support that he deserves as a 19 year old player.
@@vigour6786 naive comment mate, he had the support at North, all clubs provide that especially to the younger blokes.
@@peterharrison4841 nope he didn’t, you’re factually wrong, especially with everything happening at NM at that time they weren’t able to give him the support he deserved.
@@vigour6786 you work for NM and know this first hand obviously? ......you don't know what you don't know mate, admit it
@@peterharrison4841 it was common knowledge... everyone knew about it so it's weird you're trying to deny what I said was true. Why do you think they sacked Noble in such an awkward way? Club was a mess, still is a mess in terms of higher ups but I digress and basically you're wrong.
They'll never understand. The only way to move on is for everyone to stop talking about it. Just shut up and let the footy speak for itself.
King and north melbourne supporters are the ones who wont stop talking about it. King is the one repeatedly criticising jhf for his supposed lack of defense yet not so much of a peep about daicos who averages 1 tackle. North fans who create dedicated pages on social media calling him a sook and a flog before he even played a game for port.
@@troyjackson9743 He deserves the criticism mate.
Also comparing him to Daicos, one is a brown brownlow favourite and one has barely played a complete game performance. 🤦♂️ Talk about losing all credibility.
Didn't peanut change his view after giving walsh a hard go
Pies fans booed Oliver Henry mercilessly in Round one for leaving a team playing him in the vfl in 2022. They're fools
Ken was talking directly to Kane 😂
Boy o boy I can’t stand Cornes. He really has it in for North….JHF had a two year contract at North and he decided that he wanted to go home. When JHF was at North he wasn’t a fan of JHF and now that he’s at Port he is suddenly going to be a superstar. Cornes needs to not so one sided if he is to be in the media..
Kane Cowherd once again misses the point. No one outside North would care about this except Kane kept making it a story every week. He’s so think skinned that when Sonja have him a tiny jab back he freaked out for a week. King rightfully said, everyone should be happy. Port got a happy JHF and North traded a guy that didn’t want to there plus got the Sheez, Wardlaw, and Port’s #1 next year. Don’t know why Kane can’t see that.
How is he the one making the story every week? Because of 1 tweet?
"King said everyone should be happy" this is the same king who called jhf a sook and a whinger when he requested a trade, who said north should hold him to ransom and play him in vfl for a year. Same king who selectively highlights the 2 bad plays he had in a game while conveniently forgetting he had the 3rd most tackles and 2nd most pressure acts in that game.
@@troyjackson9743 He literally in this video tried to blame everything on North.
You honestly going to try and say that won't encourage more JHF booing.
You are so bias you can't make one logical point.
@@Harry.89 again it wasnt kane that started it. It was king calling him a sook and a whinger when he asked for a trade. It was "senior" players like zurhaar and ziebell taking shots on social media at a 19yo. It was north fans creating dedicated pages on social media calling him a sook and a flog.
@@troyjackson9743 No it was JHF who started the entire thing by not acting like a professional.
If he so desperately couldn't leave Adelaide then he never should have entered the AFL. It's not like living in Melbourne for a few years was a valid reason for him to act like he did.
JHF acted like a spoilt brat, Kane is now also acting like a spoilt brat. They are getting what they deserve.
What a hypocrite Kane is. Spent his career in the media bagging out players and JHF whilst at North, but then wants to take the moral high ground saying that he is 'unapologetic for defending a player'. Turn it up Kane.
He is winding u all up so you will watch him. Its what he does.
I'm a Port Adelaide fan and i understand if North Melbourne fan boo him that okay in my eye just don't know why everyone else is booing a 19 year old kid. And North Melbourne end up with Harry Sheezel he going to be a best player in AFL in the next couple of years
All the team fans dislike jhf for what he did, and you can thank cornes for extending this.
Sheezel has done more for north in 5 rounds than jhf did all last year ..
@@lynfletcher7744 Sheezel is already a better player then JHF and probably will stay that way. Even at Port JHF still looking like a potential bust.
@@Harry.89 I dislike Port but JHF will be a star, he's only showing it in patches but when he's consistent he'll be a gun.
@@raphaelkoch1573 Very possible but Sheezel has shown more so far. If JHF gets his head in the game he will likely be a star but that is a big if at this point.
I hope jhf succeeds, but his lack of mental toughness so far is an indication of where he could head. It's extremely difficult to be a professional athlete these days and you need very thick skin, especially when you are a number 1 pick. I don't think anything David King has said is wrong, he is just pointing out observations, it was barely even opinion based.
Where have you seen lack of mental toughness from him this year?
@@ooo8188 Kane Cornes said he has been struggling with the attention...
@@LiamP589 an 18yo struggling with being booed every week and having dedicated pages on social media created by north fans calling him a sook and a flog? Oh the outrage.
@@troyjackson9743 So he is upset at people telling him the truth?
Sounds mentally weak.
If JHF wants to be a champion of the AFL, he needs to play the cards that he is dealt. It’s sucks that he is being booed at his matches but if he wants to be the best, he should use that negative feedback as motivation to improve further. I think nobody doubts he's raw talent but he is very inconsistent. That's both when he was at north melbourne and in the 5 rounds of 2023 at Port Adelaide
Kane take some responsibility for gods sake. Lloydy gave you an opening to cut back your JHF social media comments but you still didn't take the hint.
This is a beat up for their own show between Cornes and King.
They just add fuel to the fire by policing who the fans shouldn't boo. Just accept that fans don't like how he carried himself and move on. Remind JHF that sports fans have short memories and by next season they will have forgotten about it.
JHF is as much to blame as North. North probably didn't handle him well and JHF's attitude wasn't what is should have been.
JHF didn't want to be there, I doubt North could have done much.
@@raphaelkoch1573 not conveniently drop him for every game against sa teams despite playing game before and after twice. Played in pain all last year due to compressed arteries and decreased blood flow in his legs. Despite him telling north that it makes his pain worse they dropped him for not having an ice bath which compresses the arteries and restrict blood flow.
jhf did himself no favours last year. Nth would be no picnic to play at right now but that said he did act unprofessionally during his time there. As a high first round pick you should be doing everything to show you desire to improve and learn and nothing more. if he did that then claimed home sickness no one would be talking about it. however as a result of his attitude last year he will carry this baggage rightly or wrongly for his career
If he was so unprofessional why did N.M. play him in 17 games ?
@@Lee-cc9jfyou dont take pick one in the draft and not play him.
@@fnqflycurious AFL clubs don't play anyone if they are unprofessional, even their best players.
he was 18. no excuses but cut him a bit of slack 💀
His attitude? Because 18yo are always so mature? He wanted to win and that frustration came out, north dropping him for missing an ice bath despite him telling them they make his pain worse. He was playing with pain all last year leading him to have major surgey on both his legs to decompress his arteries because there wasnt enough blood getting to his lower legs. Remind me again, dont ice baths constrict the blood vessels and reduce blood flow? Seems the 18yo knows more than norths medical experts.
Didnt see anyone crying after he took pot shots a a 19 year old ginnivan for 3 months
3 months? He criticised him over the early celebrations the took the mickey out of himself when he admitted he was wrong about ginnivan and then was repeatedly defending him over the high frees debacle.
Anyone want to get a petition going for him not be on the media. Am a north fan and kingy's comments didn't make much sense but its because Kane had a crack at the north Melbourne supporters on Sunday when Ken didnt say anything about us - just the media - and even more stupid was we werent the ones even booing, its just been the other Melbourne teams because they also dislike what he did last year.
The t thomas comparison to JHF is also ridiculous because they are completely different, JHF disrespected the club by not doing has job - he is paid to listen to the club to have an icebath - and thomas disrespected women and himself, which is obviously worse but not comparable.
To be honest Daniher, Hipwood & Cameron disrespected your club on the weekend. Can add Neale to that list too.
Who cares that JHF left the Roos, it’s business. Probably says more about the culture there pre Clarkson than it does about JHF.
The kid just got the job of his dreams and wants to quit 6months in.
No star player has signed there for a good decade and Eddie wanted to ship them off to Tassie as you guys were a basket case.
He is paid to have an ice bath? What a load of crock. He was playing with pain all last year. He told north that the ice baths made his pain worse so they dropped him for it. Had to have major surgery on both legs to decompress his arteries because there wasnt enough blood getting to his lower legs. Remind me again dont ice baths constrict the blood vessels and reduce blood flow? Seems he knows mor than norths medical "experts"
Hinkley speaks for the club so members are wanting answers too.
I would be critical of his first 3 quarters but the last made up for it.
Great players find a way, look at Oliver on the weekend, 9 touches at half time and finishes with a game high 37.
Very rarely do players put together a complete star like 4 quarters. If JHF can play just 2 qrts like his 4th or 3rd vs Brissy rd1 in a single match. His game with go to an elite level.
Kane Cornes is half the problem here. He’s such a bell end and who cares about Horne Francis.
put them in a ring togethor
the only person who botched it last year was JHF
Don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out whose side Caroline Wilson is on
It's amazing how out of touch the football media is with reality.
The more you tell fans to stop booing a player, the more they want to do it.
We've seen that with a lot of players in the past.
If it was just ignored it wouldn't even be happening today.
You can be critical of a player and still think he is going to be a star. Kane Cornes does the same thing.
No Booing? Geeze what's going on down under y'all are way tough no Booing? Come on
Stop your whinging Kane, it’s all about you. Stop having the blinkers on, seeing things from your perspective only and Port
Criticising a 19 year old every week and booing him every game, what are people try to accomplish? Do we want to push kids into mental health issues and perhaps make them depressed and suicidal? Have a crack initially if you disagree with his attitude then move on but making him a target constantly because you have issue with him makes you a pathetic person
Go power and jhf ❤
his attitude was wrong from the start....that's the problem....not who said what
JHF robbed the NMFC of a real number one draft pick and Kane can spin it all he likes the crowd boo him because of how he behaved as I believe he made the draft process a complete joke. Have a crack at him all you like he's supposed to be professional if he can't take it don't play its that simple. Secondly Kane needs to stop blaming the NMFC for how they handled him it was pretty obvious from his behaviour on the field that his heart wasn't in it for North he just wanted the bonus $$$$$$ and ran. Remember clubs don't drop people back to the 2nds if they're happy with how they are going. Those that think otherwise wait until you get pick one and they turn out a questionable dud. I think you would expect them to be able to chase down opponents with the ball, we all learned how to do that when we were 7 not 19.
You are a yokel.
You’re a half arse it takes two of you to make a whole
Can we all please move on from the JHF saga. It’s done, it’s finished. Move on enjoy the footy
that's what they are trying to do
Ken will be gone soon
Can't win the game after 1 quarter.. Hard look at yourself first Mr Hinkley.......pot kettle.
Why would anyone treat this rat with respect
Boo hooo add more fuel
Can we just put Cornes and King in a room and have them fight to the death? Hopefully we'll get lucky and we'll be rid of both of them.
prefer if it was caro and cornes
Hey Ken ya w⚓.. Like my mum use to say "play with the big kids. Expected to be treated Ike a big kid"...
I can tell you from being involved and playing footy that all clubs protect their young players from opposition abuse. Its just a fact of Australian football.