@@filthybrowna kill team won't have them riding big dinosaurs. The dinosaurs are the cool part. As I recall in the original lore they also invented knights to herd them and the humans later copied them.
@@101Mant Yeah fair point! I imagine the KT will be a tester to see how popular they are. I'm a Craftworld player so I'd rather we got the rest of our Aspects before the Exodites, as cool as they are!
if that were the case then the Eldar would've had no reason to be so nice to them, since the Eldar are absolutely repulsed by nulls and pariahs. I do imagine though that they would heavily utilize and revere nulls, as they're essentially the ultimate anti-chaos (or kaos) weapon and it'd be cool if that were reflected on tabletop and in any expanded lore that they might create. Maybe with their more advanced technology they'd clone a massive army of pariahs to substitute all the losses of being conquered, and they'd choose pariahs to clone because they still believe the Luna Wolves to be chaotic in nature, which would serve them handy when the Luna Wolves *do* become Chaos-affiliated
Very good in depth study. The Interex were one of my favourite fractions as well. I really liked how the Luna Wolves looked down on them. Their flimsy armour....their flimsy weapons....the interest captain crossing blades with Loken himself, and his sword even managing to withstand his power blade (if memory serves me right?🤔), how he made as twisting gesture on the haft of his weapon and slammed the ball-end of the staff into Loken at which point as huge kinetic impact happened which launched him flying into a wall. It was such a sad note when it all went away, and Horus desperately trying to salvage everything not wanting to "make a mistake" again as the Warmaster. So sad....
By the way ...i think they WERE'NT destroyed as people say in the comments. They started to fight them but has to withdraw and would return for them at a later point. It was just THAT world that they managed to counter, or do i completely remember it backwards? 🤨
And their ships were much bigger than the imperiums. I feel like the issue was they weren’t in a war ready stance nor had their society ready to adapt to war quickly enough despite the advantages they had over the imperium
The part about worshipping the Emperor despite hating the Imperium being an option reminded me, wasn't there a piece of old lore that implied certain mutants where actual xenos that where near enough human looking that everyone just looked the other way at first before eventually forgetting the truth?
In the Rogue Trader beta there was an Eldar ranger working for a planetary governor, the governor just assumed she was just some unfortunate mutant; absolutely hideous, but human enough.
The ratmen originally looked like Skaven. They were the 40k skaven. They worshiped "The Great Golden One" instead of 'The Great Horned One" for example. They then changed them because the new wave of writers didn't like the implication that the Imperials of fantasy 'won'.
Instead we will be told the next army is Primal Orks and they are a new true scale version of orks. They will be entirely new units and all the old ork models/units will be going to legends so that ork players have to rebuy their entire army…..then a few years later will be Eldar
The interex work with Xenia though, so I feel like if you get some auxiliary’s from other races, not to mention centaurs. They would essentially function as a new xeno army
Honestly should keep the centaur part to make them different what if all their units become mythical animals like they have a giant unit as a cyclops, flying as furies or gryphons
I picture them also maybe having some dark age tech. Like, maybe while miners were sent to galactic core, who became the leagues of votann, agricultural workers, farmers, and herdsmen were sent to this section of the galaxy. I really like the concept of this. Love me some dark age tech.
The Imperex is such an interesting group and I’d love them to be a new faction. Their ships were far bigger than the imperiums at the time. The centaur armour allows for tons of maneuverability . Their bows were able to pierce through space marine armour with laser bolts. They also had automated drones similar to AI as aposed to the imperium which heavily restricted AI technology or study and used things like servitors. They also had aliens like the Kinebach in their society. The Kinebach had a powerful stocky build and were good shock troops having a physical advantage over humans. They had had weapons with ties to chaos such as the Anathame. But what they used in battle we weren’t sure of. A huge reason for the Interex loss in some ways was they weren’t ready for war with their society still adapted to peace. Also with the battle starting on an Interex world it gave Horus and the Luna Wolves a good staging ground. The Kinebach also weren’t allowed to carry weapons when it was a time of peace
Just remembered another point from recent lore about the Leagues of Votann, who similarly have a limited warp presence and zero Navigators. They use their "Ancestor Cores" which may or may not be Dark Age of Technology STC computer cores, foundries, and archives of knowledge to calculate warp jumps. Given that we don't know when the Interex civilization was founded, whether at the end of the Dark Age or early in Old Night, we don't know what their total level of technology is. I would argue it is plausible they might have some sort of navigation computer, like those in Star Wars or Dune that can calculate warp routes for them without need of psykers. This could work to allow them to rapidly expand and increase their threat to the Imperium, while also reinforcing their hatred of them by demonstrating how advanced humanity once was, and what was lost when their old civilization was wiped out. I like the idea of fallen idealists turned militants for this setting. I just worry that limiting there territory might make them as much of a non-threat as the T'au technically are given everything that's around them. I tend to gravitate towards humans in these settings like you do, and I would want these guys to be front and center, rather than another set dressing like the aliens or even revived squats currently are. Great idea and video, it was really enjoyable to watch.
Dune doesn't have computers ... You have a great parallel between 40K and Dune on that very aspect: Both tried AI and it went sour. This is why you had the Butlerian Jihad and you have mentats which are humans which perform the tasks that computers had. In Dune you also have the navigators which are addicted to Melange/spice as they use it to power their navigational skills.
imagine a scenario where a Blood Angel gets called a 'Son of Horus' or 'Nephew of Horus' by an Interex edit: on another note, I feel that releasing an entire army with that aesthetic would be too niche; possibly introduce them and reveal Leagues of Votann as allies and army wise be something like 'Remnants of Old Humanity' where they both use Men of Iron or other types of AI and then expand both into solo armies but still have the ability to ally with each other
I argue that having an empty shelf in the store where the Tau used to be would be better. Not that it could improve the game or lore or anything to remove Tau, but that the actual benefit would be mistreating Tau players.
Me and my brother had a concept idea for this very thing! We were discussing our own 40k storyline and we had the Interex surviving out in the Ghoul stars after their destruction by the Luna Wolves. The concept was them hiding out and rebuilding their strength to exact vengeance against the Imperium, its leaders almost losing their Once noble goal; gotta fit that Grimdark "Fall from Grace" idea. I absolutely love the ancient myth inspired unit ideas, hell I've been inspired enough to start drawing up 40k rules for them after watching this
I'd love to see the Rangdan make a return at some point. From what I heard they were a real cosmic horror type enemy that took the entirety of the Dark Angels and the Lion to bring to heel.
@@elijahherstal776 It was in False Gods. Garviel Loken talks about it. He says they are destroyed. So again, unless GW are planning to retcon Horus' fall to Chaos and the entire lore around the Interex, then they are still confirmed destroyed. Regarding the Rangdan, they are confirmed destroyed as well. By the Dark Angels and the direct intervention of The Emperor. Sources for the Rangdan Xenocides: Alpharius: Head of the Hydra (Novel) by Mike Brooks, "Xenos Extremis" The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal (Forge World Series) by Alan Bligh, pg. 99 The Horus Heresy Book Seven: Inferno (Forge World Series) by Alan Bligh, pp. 81-82, 133 The Horus Heresy Book Nine: Crusade (Forge World Series), pp. 89-91, 120-122, 125-126 Scions of the Emperor (Anthology), "First Legion" by Chris Wraight White Dwarf 470, pg. 101
I love your take on a return of the Interex. I always thought that they were a vastly unexplored and underused faction that could have been a lot of fun. My one suggestion/addition would be for their lore. I think that given their old empire, when it comes to the various Aliens races, they would largely be ok with them. The Eldar they would be fine with, natural allies even, obviously they are also diametrically opposed to chaos. Orks they would probably find annoying but might be willing to trade with or at least hire on from time to time as cannon fodder off world. I think that Squats and Tau would land somewhere in between and be solid trading partners if not regular allies. However, the big surprise I would give them is to make them surprisingly friendly with some of the various Necron dynasties. The Interex being essentially a race of blanks, but still organic, 100% opposed to chaos, and also highly technology advanced would be very interesting to the Necrons as a whole. They are essentially what the Necons aspire to be. You could add some sinister overtones to the relationship from some of the Necrons if you wanted, but some like Trazyn and Zahndrekh would probably be quite buddy buddy with them. You could balance said relationship with giving them much greater access to Dark age of Technology tech, A.I., Men of Iron, etc. Back then Humans were almost, if not on par with the necrons, and were more advanced in some areas. Maybe have some lesser Pharon try to attack a world and get their shit absolutely pushed in sideways. Maybe said Pharon unleashes their C'Tan shard and the interex go "Oooo... that's neat, let's capture it and turn it against them." Then have them wipe out said small dynasty. To the point where some of the others Pharons are like "Hey buddies, pals, look were a lot a like you know..." I think that would be a really fun development for them. Plus it would give you a human/necron alliance that makes a lot more sense than the Blood Angels/Silent King fist bump. Anyway that's my 2 cents. What do you think?
Oh yes, gotta love the Interex. Really would enjoy seeing them around more in the lore. Kinda wish that the Men of Iron had more to them, or even some kind of mini faction thing where they're just a tiny station literally out in the void somewhere out of normal space travels, or even as a hidden shadow group existing among the more "normal" machinery.
I like most of what you came up with, only changes I would do is; 1. The weapon of choice, naginata is more of a Japanese aesthetic and personally I think would clash with the Greek motif. I think a weapon like the spear/pike would serve as a better iconic weapon just as is was in Ancient Greece but have it function like the Goa'uld from Stargate where it's a melee weapon AND shoots laser blasts from it. (Since they blasted Space Marines apart I imagine it'd be something like 1 shot, 24in, Str 6-7, AP 2-3, DMG 1, but Rapid Fire 1 and in Rapid Fire range it's DMG 2.) 2. The units, I think the basic infantry would be modeled like Greek Hoplites, shield and all with grooves for them to hold their spears steady and aim down to fire. The rest of the army could be cybernetic/"40k" versions of Greek/Egyptian mythical beasts such as with the Centaur Armor, Minotaur Armor, Sphinx', ect.
Or perhaps give their base infantry unit a Roman style Scutum, Gladius and Pilum. It would make sense that since they were nearly wiped out by the Luna Wolves they would have a good reason to adapt themselves towards specializing fighting space marines. Advanced heavy shields capable of shrugging off bolter fire, forcing Astartes to close into melee rage. A limited number of Pilim capable of piercing or disabling space marine armour from medium range and a gladius with a phase blade making them deadly in close. Power armor that gives them the strength to hold formation against a space marine charge but still regular humans that don't have much of a chance against Astartes 1v1. Maybe make centurions(officers) enhanced humans of some fashion on equal footing with Astartes to give the opportunity for some epic 1v1 combat.
In a sense, the Imperium was the greatest ally of Chaos, it gave chaos 9 massive legions of super soldiers and it gives chaos a near endless supplies of new recruits. One might say that the Emperor was helping chaos and funnily, the Interex in the books suspected that (because of Erebus since they didn't have direct contact with the rest of the imperium yet as far as I know) and having a human faction that isn't the imperium would be nice, also the Interex had xenos in their empire as well, so they should allow them in as long as they don't have Chaos taint.
I can understand it's sometimes a stretch to see yourself in the shoes of a species like the Tyranids, with their hivemind and inscrutable alien motivation, but if you've got drunk and thrown a punch in a bar you can understand what it's like to be an Ork. You really want something centauroid? Zoats. Job done.
It's crazy, I was literally just talking to my friend yesterday about making the interex Warhammers next army. Another human race in power armour, with advanced tech and new vehicles would be absolutely insane. I would buy in ASAP. They got did so dirty in the books, GW would have done better to keep them around in the lore as a small splinter empire, that sometimes helps imperium and sometimes is at odds with it. So much missed potential.. In my opinion it's GWs biggest story telling blunder.. Just subscribed today, agree with video 100%
As a Greek, i can give you some advice based on our history. Well if you want to make a ancient greek like faction in 40k you need this... The chacteristics of Greek civilization in human history. 1.very few in numbers. 2.polis nations. 3.dodecatheon(12 gods) 4.highly technologicaly advanced. 5.standing in a highly strategic location. you can't have them in the backround of the galaxy. 6.bastion of humanity(west) from barbarian invasions(highly sofisticated empires). 7.World wonders 8.From a small limited space to a sudden expansion. Based from the above, the characteristics of a new Interex civilisation should look like this. 1. Around 30-50 billion people total. 2. Maybe a star system or a few which each and every planet is self governt. You can't have a central goverment. 3.it would be very thematic each and every planet be highly specialised on what they contribute to the whole. I imagine their civ having around 12 planets each based from an olympic god. For example. Demeter an agri world or Hephaestus a forge world or Athena a scientific world. 4. it wouldn't make sense to have an intact STC. I would say give them a damaged STC but they continue to evolve just like tau. 5.i know it's easy to introduce them in the backround of the galaxy but that's not cool anyways. their location must be of high importance, if not right away, in the future. 6.Must give them an anathema or arch nemesis to fight over their borders for millenia. 7.Greeks stayed in history for their culture and architecture. I would say that the main goal it would be to make them build an Dyson swarm or Sphere. 8.Use the energy from the Dyson swarm for a unique lost to time ftl travel and let them expand.(alexander the great style). THE GRIMMDARK Although i agree with most in your video. Xenophobe Greeks would end up being a mini empire of man, so here is an alternative. From the last interaction with the empire, the new faction is highly isolationist with no room for deplomacy which means first they destroy anything that come near their space and then they ask questions, i imagine it a highly defensive faction with units to match their playstyle. I would love to see some space spartans with energy fields creating a phalanx nullifying range attacks from long distance forcing the enemy getting closer to give them pain. what do you think?
I dig it! I'm pretty new to 40k. Well, new as in, once upon a time some 20 years ago I got some Dark Angels models to paint. But got back into and started playing at the end of 9th. (Now maining Black Templars) Reading some books so I don't know all the lore and factions, but a centaur based faction would be sick. I had one idea though, maybe they could have a type of squad that utilises pets (like a hunter class) maybe some sort of wolf hybrid, or something simian like you suggested with the Kong Dreadnaught. Anyways, new subscriber from Australia and I really dig your vids, been watching a stack the last week
I Like how you also woven some plausible scenario and politics into the narrative too, not just having new faction popping up and immediately shooting left and right.
Enslavers should be a kill team kit, maybe with rules to have them as hq for an astra militarum army proxying as a pdf. This could probly apply to slaugth, rak'gol and other minor xenos from Fantasy Flights rpg fluff
Too much change happening at GW. New Armies are coop by me but making old units unusable across the board proves that buying their product is basically a waste of money if you're in it to play tabletop.
thats kind of crazy, these guys always stuck with me after reading about them, when they found out that the imperium didn't even know about the warp (the emperor keeping a tight lid on it) they saw the imperium as bumbling children stumbling blind through a warehouse of knives and couldn't figure out how they haven't wiped themselves out yet.
What if instead of them having no Warp or FTL capabilities, They were a fleet of Interex trying to escape the Imperium during the Great Crusade? They could have used some faulty technology to escape and it flung them through the Warp like the Dark Angels and threw them into the future. They could be a few hundred thousand or a couple million in numbers but are mostly civilians. This way there is still relatively a low amount of them and their hatred of the Imperium would still be fresh.
One i would like to see come back in 40k is the Olamic Quietude, basically they were "human necrons" of some kind, i really like how they were described, it was little but was cool in my opinion.
I’d personally love to see a game set in the Great Crusade era, so many new miniatures and cool Xenos races could be designed to battle against. Rangdan xenocides would be fun to play.
I feel that the Guilliman strategy you proposed would make sense. He'd also be conflicted, coming from a era that was against the warp use already (ie council of Nikaea). He's somewhat aware of Big E's plan from then
I really like your theory, as the Interex are one of my favorite parts of 40k's lore, there is only one point of critique I would raise. There is precedent for nulls being able to enter the warp, via the Sisters of Silence and the Black Ships executing the Psyker tithe. There is precedent for exclusive real-space flight in the setting in the form of the Chartist Captains which account for 90% of the spaceflight and shipping in the Imperium and only fly set routes. I like the limited territory approach to this faction, but it isn't necessarily required to limit them to slower than light, but the option is there. I really do like your approach to this, but did want to touch on this point. One other point, I like the Null approach, and might be misremembering this, but I'm fairly certain there was a line referencing the Sisters of Silence, upon Guillaman's return which depicted a Sister in proximity of a Navigator, and counter to the expectation of mind-rending agony befalling said individual, it actually became easier for the navigator to guide the ship they were on.
The idea that females aren't represented in 40k is a bit ridiculous when you look at how heavily they are in Eldar factions, not to mention the Imperial Guard (which you could eaisly kit bash as there are many model makers out there), and they are also very present in Necromunda, which you could proxy models into an army for. I would argue that their limitations on representation are self imposed due to lack of imagination.
Army wide special rule: Combat Formation At the start of the game nominate each unit of Hoplite Warriors. Choose a combat formation from the following; Skirmishers: A unit of skirmishers has +2 M, +1 to charge and can enter the table from any board edge outside of 9" from any enemy unit. Turtle Shell: The unit has a Shield Projector Drone. The unit has a permanent +1 cover and armor save. Phalanx: The unit has +1 BS, +1 A, and rerolls 1s to hit and wound enemy vehicles and units with 2+ AS
[2:39*🤔2:50*] Interesting that you'd choose *'The INTEREX'* as a New Army, since one of the main arguments that their detractors in the XVI SoH Legion had against them (prior to their subsequent annihilation) was that while they are indeed Human, they choose to *_Mix & Mingle_* with various *_Alien Races_* & have them integrated & working throughout their whole society at large.** (* & the fact that you don't really care for any of the myriad of 40K Xenos Races) (** & thus, to properly represent them on the Tabletop, you need to include at least a few Xenos models to represent this.....if you wished to maintain/favor *_Lore Accuracy_* that is) Thanks NExile ~ Interesting & thought-provoking as ever [};-)=*~
In my 30 years of experience in 40 K, women tend to play elves, craftworld or dark elves. They like the costuming, they like painting them, and there are many female characters. The army that makes the most sense is dark mechanicus, with the introduction of vashtor, at the end of 9th ed. alternatively, the introduction of imperium nialus, leaves room for several side races that have been mentioned in the lore, to grow without the imperial boot, as it were. Could be something again to the tau story.
There's a fascinating study that LEGO conducted on the different way that boys and girls play. Boys tend to adopt the personality of the characters they like. Where girls tend to imprint their own personality onto the character. Interesting stuff. Worth a look.
8:05 If you look closely you can see what the designer went for hear which is... indeed unorthodox yet would almost make sense I would say? As you can see, the rider sits a bit back, is not the total front body centaurs usually are depicted as. The first joint that you see, at the height of the big swirly ornamental armor, is his knee. Then it bends back straight downward into his heel. You can see his entire boot and foot there. The mech-armor then elongates his foot with an EXTRA joint at the end that has the hoof attached. - It looked silly at first, until I looked at it for longer and puzzled out what's going on. This is really creative design. Applause to the artist.
I really like the Kinebrach addition to the Interex, there's a lot more potential there. Since the Interex are a Greco-Roman inspired army, what if they had a specialist division that resembled Gladiators? Also, the Interex really should use AI to the max if this army really wants to stand out in the 40k universe, given the Adeptus Mechanicus forbids AI. Be AI used in a swarm of fighter drones, legions of robot soldiers, AI tactician, AI logistics, walkers from Star Wars, I don't care. The centaur bit often confused me but if the four legs really is just a platform the warriors ride, then they should put the rear to use like a deploy station for small drones or a power station to release a dome energy shield or a turret station. As far as we know, the Interex are lacking TANKS. I dont know if the centaurs would be as fast as jetbikes, therefore the centaurs should at least act as mini-tanks. Apart from that, what the Interex really need are TITANS -- I'm picturing the Colossus of Rhodes If the Interex are going to keep their laser spears and crossbows, that's fine though let's not forget the Shield played a huge role in the Roman armies especially the Tortoise, so the Interex shields (be they energy or solid shields) needs to play a big role too. Maybe like the ballistic shield in Black Ops 4 with a bolt machine gun attached to it or flame-thrower, or a tower shield with hover tech. Secondly, the siege and war machines is what gave the Roman army many victories, so the Interex should have some kickass artilleries (maybe ones that use AI tech). Perhaps the Kinebrach can make some badass weaponry that the Interex shouldn't shy away from, or maybe utilize secret tech the Eldar shared with the Interex.
I do like what you talk about, the concept and ideas. And I also like Tau and realise that in this concept stage they basically feel like the human version of Tau (it could be argued that Tau are just the xeno version of the interex and I would agree since interex was released in lore before Tau). But this means it feels like they aren't really filling a niche in the setting or contributing much new, and their existence is really a non threat since "don't go there" is enough. But what if we change how they survived and how they get reintroduced quite a lot and some aspects a bit? A sub-race of semi-blanks, but how one in a billion is a psycher with great powers that are keenly kept in check due to how sometimes you can only fight fire with fire. Maybe this can be used in some way to make them a bit more distinct. And what if they had some ancient device of xeno origin that was unclear in its function, they knew it transported things to another place but no servitor equivalent has returned and no signal can reach where they are sent. But they know it's a place of safety, the devices function is an emergency exit. So, they use it when they realize they can't win against the imperium, opting for uncertain chance of prolonged survival over certain annihilation. They are transported into the webway and get kinda stuck in their region. They probably have encounters with the dark eldar, maybe this part of the webway is more or less closed off because it's damaged and have demon invasions, or maybe it was damaged because it's adjacent to the webway to the golden throne? Anyway, they establish their webway empire, fight of drukhari and become deeply distrustful against xenos and humans in general, but with their tech savvy and captured drukhari they start reverse engineering some of their tech, allowing them to navigate the webway and exit it. But since their own pocket is relatively peaceful there's no real need to establish in the more physical realm. Until Vashtorr with wormwood comes crashing through, tearing their pocket open to the warp and forcing them out into physical space again. Before they were just "minor pirate incidents" to the imperium, but now they need a new place to live and inhabit. And with the help of the webway they can move around without using warp travel. And this is why they can pose a threat as an invasion force and pop up all over the galaxy, searching for systems to take over, colonize and defend. Because the webway they have access to is getting corrupted by the warp. So this would make them a bit more of the human version of eldar I guess, but you could also add on layers or versions. Like one version being how they are trapped in their little pocket of webway that is completely isolated due to rips into the warp. They become warp tainted and are disgusted with themselves, but due to being semi-blanks they never really loose themselves and their mind. So once Vashtorr comes crashing through it also leaves them with an exit to pour out from. Their mission is to take vengeance on the imperium that forced them to this fate, fight chaos and once all that is done end their own race for their taint, but until then they will use it to reach their goal. Perhaps they don't give a fudge about xenos either way, perhaps it's specifically eldar and drukhari they hate for not freeing them from the tainted pocket, rest of xenos are "meh". They might even view the Tyranids as a weird ally, helping them achieve the tabula rasa they aim for and use their tech to study them in order to try to find a way to manipulate them in where and when to strike, might even go so far as trying to impose mutations that will help the Tyranids against an upcoming foe. Also sampling from them in order to bio engineer monsters of war, unleashed into the enemy with blind fury but with a safety switch explosive pack in the brain once they outlived their use or try to turn against them. I dunno, I like the concept you presented but want to make it a bit less Tau 2.0 🙂
I don't think they are nulls. They simply ware way different in culture and mind-set to Luna Wolves. This is why they seemed strange to Horus and his fleet. In their first meeting with Horus Fleet they are mentioned to send message to his ship in every known way includeing astropathic message. So they had psykers but since Interex is used more as plot tool their society is not explained in more detail
I think other good candidates for lore-established forces to bring to tabletop would be the Blood Pact (similar enough to, but also distinct from, Traitor Guard), and the Dark Mechanicus. Chaos, as we all know, is a dark, twisted, mirror version of the Materium, and I'd like to see more examples of the antithetical, inverted dichotomy presented between Chaos Space Marines vs Loyalist Adeptus Astartes, Imperial vs Traitor Knights, etc.
In the first picture of the centaur suit, the person is sitting down. I think the sitting down position makes sense and they could detach if needed, but lose some speed. The heavy looking one could be like cathafract heavy cavalery
The Imperium's contention with the Interex was their integration with xenos. Even the megarachnids were allowed to live in quarantine. A new Interex would be like the Covenant - subjugating other races for their best interest in a heavily fleet-based civilisation. I would also add that 10,000 years is more than enough time for them to forget their lost civilisation, Horus, etc. Their hatred for other human civilisations would be purely mythological.
GW is currently trying to scrub out all the grimdark from the 40k universe, new races or armies aren't top priority. They have make it all safe for the kids and soy boys who want their "happy fuzzy ducky adventures" instead of anything hard-edged and gritty.
I would make them send fleets of survivors in different directions, this could open up interaction with other races, tau maybe, where you can add in some centaur dudes. That would broaden where and against whom the can fight. Also they could have some sort of powerarmor, that slots into different "mounts", like the centaur or a chariot styled vehicle, or be fielded as just pa infantry. Oh, and jump infantry with stealthgenerators, that make them look like phasejumping around. Overall a cool concept.
Not something in 40k, but something I *want to see* in 40k - Space Skaven. Think Warhammer Fantasy 6th edition, don't care about their own troops, pure mad science. Kind of like Orks, but instead of being melee focused and beating each other up for funsies, a malevolent race with a focus on shooting, happy to send their own to their deaths, using crazy mad science on themselves and their enemies.
Some ideas of the top of my head: They're all nulls so for any human to join they need to be 'nulled'. they're put through a dangerous and often fatal procedure that severs their connection to the warp, effectively a "de-souling". Given the Interexs near extinction and the loss of their culturally rich empire they devolved into a far more militaristic society valuing combat prowess above all else. Very little of their society is focused on anything but the need to fight; they are perpetually in a cultural state of 'total war'. Given their low population they make extensive use of cloning but in a unique way. No true Interex is a standard grunt. Each is trained to perfection and once they become worthy of command they are cloned and the clones become the fireteam they will lead. The clones lack more in depth strategy and critical thinking but make the perfect counterparts for their true self. The original is considered the 'head' and the clones the 'body'; both working in perfect union as a cohesive combat unit.
Now I know lot of people wouldn't like this but I feel this would be perfect for one of the missing primarchs and the reason he was struck from history because he was a null who's power was so intense that when focusing his power could hurt the Emperor and the reason he was removed was he found out about chaos and that the emperor has made deals with its gods (which I'm 99% sure has) and decided to kill his father and all psychers to save humanity from Chaos. Then you could have it that in he was in a void battle and his ship exploded due to some dark age of technology weapon. Due to his enginuity he escaped with a cloaked escape ship wounded to the point he put himself in stasis and was found by the Interex assuming him a member of the imperium the readied to interrogate him but before they could say a word he was already screaming about ending his deamon worshiping father and ending that damn imperium. He could take a direct leadership position or like a second leading the armies from the front.
just a thought, what if the Interex wepons and armors are more based on greek myth a la Homer's Odyssey? such as; harpy armors (as a counter part to the Sisters of batte, and maybe even IG arospace), Greek Spinx like dreadnoughts , Kraken shaped tanks (imagine a giant squid wit cannons for legs sliding across the battlefield ejecting an ECM /Visibility cloud... Plasma javelins that work more like High tech atlatl (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear-thrower), hydra like ships,..etc, just a thought...
Be interested on thoughts on how they would play on the table, how would their strengths/weaknesses result in s different/varied playstyle to other factions? What would their stratagems generally lean too?
Romas often threw their javelins at close range just before connecting in melee, and were good at shifting their formations around when they started to grow tired or were about to break. This gives me an idea for a faction that wants to stay close to take advantage of some devastating but close range shooting and can charge in if need be, but doesn't do well in extended melee, so has some abilities that help them disengage, not in a hit and run style but taking a small step back to blast their oponents. And their bigger units like the centaurs or big monke could be good at shooting into melee while looking for an opening to charge in at some high value target
Nice idea. And even if all their worlds were already known to the Imperium, which is unlikely, even if so, if the Interex basically saw them coming some worlds could have put everything on moving as much as they can onto new worlds to get away from them and rebuild, which is why they can come back now after thousands of years having rebuilt and developed. And that also goes with them having been underway to settle elsewhere for a long time and not wanting to stay too long near places where there is more traffic in space. More or less as the Squats stayed out of sight, or even how the Tau were left alone for thousands of years and developed fast. And with them walking on four legs, they should be faster, maybe have less of a penalty on moving and shooting heavy weapons, maybe have some back and side mounted weapons and also being nice in hand to hand combat. Since they are high tech only skimmers and flying vehicles. But weapons, high range and damage but very few shots ? For some maybe still the possibility of getting hot ?
How would you narratively explain the Interex encountering the Tau and Votann for these geographically restricted factions to meet up so players who want a narrative reason for the armies to fight one and other?
I enjoyed the video, but these guys aren't grim dark to me. You've said they are, but I'm not convinced. It's an easy one for me; traitor guard. Call them Lost and the Damned, use existing stuff like chaos knights, add traitor guard, beastmen and dark mechanicum and you've got something awesome that flies off the shelves.
It would really fit into the lore if the interex empire was located in Imperium Nihilus. They join in the fight for chaos and the Blood Angels and the Lion have no choice but to team up with them to try and retake Nihilus from chaos
They were cool in lore for sure and it would make sense some survived destruction by fleeing. I’d like to see the rah ghul (not sure if correct spelling ) or those crazy mega arachnids on planet murder. As they were at least more sentinent than tyranids. Though I guess from logistical gaming point it would be better for GW to reduce factions and expand existing ones with more support rules / models / lore . Then again from purely a hobbyist view point more races the better , as more to collect and paint
There is no way the Interex are ever being added. And if they did decide to revive them and add them as their own faction before Dark Mechanicum, I will be extremely pissed off. The interex have served their purpose, but they’re gone.
I think maybe make them a bit of a combination of Greek and WHFB Bretonian for art style. Knight shaped helmets, but round Hoplite shields on the left arm, and horse hair crests on their French medieval helmets. Centaur Power Armor, or Centyr armor if you will. Only 10% of the population are able to control their power armor, so they're the ruling class. They're Grim-Dark in that they have a Helot/Peasant class that just can never be anything else. Starship wise, maybe a techno slave galley look. Like Triremes in space.
From what I remember weren't the Interex a coalition of multiple alien races that had come together under one banner rather then it just being a singular race?
In horus rising they just evacuate out of interex space. Hours even goes onto say they will try diplomacy again later since the interex wasn't going to get in their way
Give them a near lightspeed, just over lightspeed drive, so it takes years, not decades to get to another system, without the warp. Something like the alcubiere drive or the necrons inertialess drive. It would still have taken 10k ish years to get to their new home, given fuel requirements/stopovers at random planet X as they went etc.
Honestly, GW needs to hurry and make Exodites an actual army
they are sculpted and slated for release very soon, assuming as a kill team
Really hope not since I’ve got a kit based Abelard exodite army. Like make a kill team w.e but it’s a very good art project for kitbasers.
Preach
@@filthybrowna kill team won't have them riding big dinosaurs. The dinosaurs are the cool part. As I recall in the original lore they also invented knights to herd them and the humans later copied them.
@@101Mant Yeah fair point! I imagine the KT will be a tester to see how popular they are. I'm a Craftworld player so I'd rather we got the rest of our Aspects before the Exodites, as cool as they are!
I really love the idea that the interex are made up of psychic nulls and that being the reason why everyone felt uneasy when contacting them.
Makes sense, everyone who has a soul is almost repelled by blanks
if that were the case then the Eldar would've had no reason to be so nice to them, since the Eldar are absolutely repulsed by nulls and pariahs. I do imagine though that they would heavily utilize and revere nulls, as they're essentially the ultimate anti-chaos (or kaos) weapon and it'd be cool if that were reflected on tabletop and in any expanded lore that they might create. Maybe with their more advanced technology they'd clone a massive army of pariahs to substitute all the losses of being conquered, and they'd choose pariahs to clone because they still believe the Luna Wolves to be chaotic in nature, which would serve them handy when the Luna Wolves *do* become Chaos-affiliated
Very good in depth study. The Interex were one of my favourite fractions as well.
I really liked how the Luna Wolves looked down on them. Their flimsy armour....their flimsy weapons....the interest captain crossing blades with Loken himself, and his sword even managing to withstand his power blade (if memory serves me right?🤔), how he made as twisting gesture on the haft of his weapon and slammed the ball-end of the staff into Loken at which point as huge kinetic impact happened which launched him flying into a wall.
It was such a sad note when it all went away, and Horus desperately trying to salvage everything not wanting to "make a mistake" again as the Warmaster. So sad....
By the way ...i think they WERE'NT destroyed as people say in the comments. They started to fight them but has to withdraw and would return for them at a later point.
It was just THAT world that they managed to counter, or do i completely remember it backwards? 🤨
Also the bows they thought were ceremonially but were actually OP.
@@richcheckmaker i really liked that part, how they severely underestimated the opposition!
And their ships were much bigger than the imperiums. I feel like the issue was they weren’t in a war ready stance nor had their society ready to adapt to war quickly enough despite the advantages they had over the imperium
@@historyking9984 were they? I do t remember that bit, i like it!
The part about worshipping the Emperor despite hating the Imperium being an option reminded me, wasn't there a piece of old lore that implied certain mutants where actual xenos that where near enough human looking that everyone just looked the other way at first before eventually forgetting the truth?
I vaguely remember reading about that. Almost like the votaan today
@@WARSMITHAFROW but the votan aren't xenos are they, they are modified clones of humans, that's why they have STC's
In the Rogue Trader beta there was an Eldar ranger working for a planetary governor, the governor just assumed she was just some unfortunate mutant; absolutely hideous, but human enough.
The ratmen originally looked like Skaven. They were the 40k skaven. They worshiped "The Great Golden One" instead of 'The Great Horned One" for example. They then changed them because the new wave of writers didn't like the implication that the Imperials of fantasy 'won'.
@@Nempo13I thought that Chaos wins in the end because of Archaon
Instead we will be told the next army is Primal Orks and they are a new true scale version of orks. They will be entirely new units and all the old ork models/units will be going to legends so that ork players have to rebuy their entire army…..then a few years later will be Eldar
Greatest Good Tau after that
As much I would like to see Interex, I feel like Dark Mechanicum and one or two xenos races (like Slaugth and Hrud) should show up before them
I also want to see the diasporex return.
The interex work with Xenia though, so I feel like if you get some auxiliary’s from other races, not to mention centaurs. They would essentially function as a new xeno army
Honestly should keep the centaur part to make them different what if all their units become mythical animals like they have a giant unit as a cyclops, flying as furies or gryphons
i would jam the shit out of centaur cavalry and gryphon "jump" infantry
@@aunderiskerensky2304sounds like furry bait to me
THATS FUCKING HERESY
That's a really cool idea.
I hate everything about the idea of the Interex becoming an army in 40k EXCEPT for how cool they would look if they had units like this.
Oooh i like that idea
I picture them also maybe having some dark age tech. Like, maybe while miners were sent to galactic core, who became the leagues of votann, agricultural workers, farmers, and herdsmen were sent to this section of the galaxy. I really like the concept of this. Love me some dark age tech.
>Forcing Miners to labor and extract resources for you
Pretty normal
>Forcing Minors to labor and extract resources for you
Go to jail
The Imperex is such an interesting group and I’d love them to be a new faction. Their ships were far bigger than the imperiums at the time. The centaur armour allows for tons of maneuverability . Their bows were able to pierce through space marine armour with laser bolts. They also had automated drones similar to AI as aposed to the imperium which heavily restricted AI technology or study and used things like servitors. They also had aliens like the Kinebach in their society. The Kinebach had a powerful stocky build and were good shock troops having a physical advantage over humans. They had had weapons with ties to chaos such as the Anathame. But what they used in battle we weren’t sure of. A huge reason for the Interex loss in some ways was they weren’t ready for war with their society still adapted to peace. Also with the battle starting on an Interex world it gave Horus and the Luna Wolves a good staging ground. The Kinebach also weren’t allowed to carry weapons when it was a time of peace
Just remembered another point from recent lore about the Leagues of Votann, who similarly have a limited warp presence and zero Navigators. They use their "Ancestor Cores" which may or may not be Dark Age of Technology STC computer cores, foundries, and archives of knowledge to calculate warp jumps. Given that we don't know when the Interex civilization was founded, whether at the end of the Dark Age or early in Old Night, we don't know what their total level of technology is. I would argue it is plausible they might have some sort of navigation computer, like those in Star Wars or Dune that can calculate warp routes for them without need of psykers. This could work to allow them to rapidly expand and increase their threat to the Imperium, while also reinforcing their hatred of them by demonstrating how advanced humanity once was, and what was lost when their old civilization was wiped out. I like the idea of fallen idealists turned militants for this setting. I just worry that limiting there territory might make them as much of a non-threat as the T'au technically are given everything that's around them. I tend to gravitate towards humans in these settings like you do, and I would want these guys to be front and center, rather than another set dressing like the aliens or even revived squats currently are. Great idea and video, it was really enjoyable to watch.
Dune doesn't have computers ... You have a great parallel between 40K and Dune on that very aspect: Both tried AI and it went sour. This is why you had the Butlerian Jihad and you have mentats which are humans which perform the tasks that computers had. In Dune you also have the navigators which are addicted to Melange/spice as they use it to power their navigational skills.
imagine a scenario where a Blood Angel gets called a 'Son of Horus' or 'Nephew of Horus' by an Interex
edit: on another note, I feel that releasing an entire army with that aesthetic would be too niche; possibly introduce them and reveal Leagues of Votann as allies and army wise be something like 'Remnants of Old Humanity' where they both use Men of Iron or other types of AI and then expand both into solo armies but still have the ability to ally with each other
Gue'Vesa for the Tau Empire would be cool too.
I'd settle for an upgrade kit similar to brood brothers. Or a kill team like the traitor guardsmen
I argue that having an empty shelf in the store where the Tau used to be would be better.
Not that it could improve the game or lore or anything to remove Tau, but that the actual benefit would be mistreating Tau players.
@@elijahherstal776Tau are cool tho.
@@enigmachinasclass8153 no, that's incorrect.
@@elijahherstal776 Why's that?
Me and my brother had a concept idea for this very thing!
We were discussing our own 40k storyline and we had the Interex surviving out in the Ghoul stars after their destruction by the Luna Wolves. The concept was them hiding out and rebuilding their strength to exact vengeance against the Imperium, its leaders almost losing their Once noble goal; gotta fit that Grimdark "Fall from Grace" idea. I absolutely love the ancient myth inspired unit ideas, hell I've been inspired enough to start drawing up 40k rules for them after watching this
I'd love to see the Rangdan make a return at some point. From what I heard they were a real cosmic horror type enemy that took the entirety of the Dark Angels and the Lion to bring to heel.
and on that note,according to lore,aren't they connected to the "disappearance" of one of the lost legions(2nd/11th) as well?
And they could be tied lore wise to the rak'gol and yu'vath from dark heresy
Confirmed destroyed by the Dark Angels.
Interex also confirmed destroyed by Luna Wolves.
@@BM-wf9uf "Confirmed" in which of the absolutely removed official records?
@@elijahherstal776 It was in False Gods. Garviel Loken talks about it. He says they are destroyed.
So again, unless GW are planning to retcon Horus' fall to Chaos and the entire lore around the Interex, then they are still confirmed destroyed.
Regarding the Rangdan, they are confirmed destroyed as well. By the Dark Angels and the direct intervention of The Emperor.
Sources for the Rangdan Xenocides:
Alpharius: Head of the Hydra (Novel) by Mike Brooks, "Xenos Extremis"
The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal (Forge World Series) by Alan Bligh, pg. 99
The Horus Heresy Book Seven: Inferno (Forge World Series) by Alan Bligh, pp. 81-82, 133
The Horus Heresy Book Nine: Crusade (Forge World Series), pp. 89-91, 120-122, 125-126
Scions of the Emperor (Anthology), "First Legion" by Chris Wraight
White Dwarf 470, pg. 101
I love the interex from what we saw . Such a unique group with unique tech and weapons.
Could be cool to have their plot basically being them trying to make contact with the tau while inquisition agents play interference
I love your take on a return of the Interex. I always thought that they were a vastly unexplored and underused faction that could have been a lot of fun.
My one suggestion/addition would be for their lore. I think that given their old empire, when it comes to the various Aliens races, they would largely be ok with them. The Eldar they would be fine with, natural allies even, obviously they are also diametrically opposed to chaos. Orks they would probably find annoying but might be willing to trade with or at least hire on from time to time as cannon fodder off world. I think that Squats and Tau would land somewhere in between and be solid trading partners if not regular allies.
However, the big surprise I would give them is to make them surprisingly friendly with some of the various Necron dynasties. The Interex being essentially a race of blanks, but still organic, 100% opposed to chaos, and also highly technology advanced would be very interesting to the Necrons as a whole. They are essentially what the Necons aspire to be. You could add some sinister overtones to the relationship from some of the Necrons if you wanted, but some like Trazyn and Zahndrekh would probably be quite buddy buddy with them. You could balance said relationship with giving them much greater access to Dark age of Technology tech, A.I., Men of Iron, etc. Back then Humans were almost, if not on par with the necrons, and were more advanced in some areas. Maybe have some lesser Pharon try to attack a world and get their shit absolutely pushed in sideways. Maybe said Pharon unleashes their C'Tan shard and the interex go "Oooo... that's neat, let's capture it and turn it against them." Then have them wipe out said small dynasty. To the point where some of the others Pharons are like "Hey buddies, pals, look were a lot a like you know..."
I think that would be a really fun development for them. Plus it would give you a human/necron alliance that makes a lot more sense than the Blood Angels/Silent King fist bump. Anyway that's my 2 cents. What do you think?
It would be interesting if the Interex adapt a ranking system similar to the Aztec where your rank is determined by your body count
Rank determined by body count? Wouldn’t that make the slaanesh worshippers? 😂
@@Murlocalypse818 I agree, also too modern dating maket shtick.
@@Murlocalypse818 wouldn’t that be poetic irony
i got some ex girlfriends that would be running entire armadas ....
@@aunderiskerensky2304 not that body count…I think.
Oh yes, gotta love the Interex. Really would enjoy seeing them around more in the lore. Kinda wish that the Men of Iron had more to them, or even some kind of mini faction thing where they're just a tiny station literally out in the void somewhere out of normal space travels, or even as a hidden shadow group existing among the more "normal" machinery.
I like most of what you came up with, only changes I would do is;
1. The weapon of choice, naginata is more of a Japanese aesthetic and personally I think would clash with the Greek motif. I think a weapon like the spear/pike would serve as a better iconic weapon just as is was in Ancient Greece but have it function like the Goa'uld from Stargate where it's a melee weapon AND shoots laser blasts from it. (Since they blasted Space Marines apart I imagine it'd be something like 1 shot, 24in, Str 6-7, AP 2-3, DMG 1, but Rapid Fire 1 and in Rapid Fire range it's DMG 2.)
2. The units, I think the basic infantry would be modeled like Greek Hoplites, shield and all with grooves for them to hold their spears steady and aim down to fire. The rest of the army could be cybernetic/"40k" versions of Greek/Egyptian mythical beasts such as with the Centaur Armor, Minotaur Armor, Sphinx', ect.
Or perhaps give their base infantry unit a Roman style Scutum, Gladius and Pilum. It would make sense that since they were nearly wiped out by the Luna Wolves they would have a good reason to adapt themselves towards specializing fighting space marines. Advanced heavy shields capable of shrugging off bolter fire, forcing Astartes to close into melee rage. A limited number of Pilim capable of piercing or disabling space marine armour from medium range and a gladius with a phase blade making them deadly in close. Power armor that gives them the strength to hold formation against a space marine charge but still regular humans that don't have much of a chance against Astartes 1v1. Maybe make centurions(officers) enhanced humans of some fashion on equal footing with Astartes to give the opportunity for some epic 1v1 combat.
In a sense, the Imperium was the greatest ally of Chaos, it gave chaos 9 massive legions of super soldiers and it gives chaos a near endless supplies of new recruits.
One might say that the Emperor was helping chaos and funnily, the Interex in the books suspected that (because of Erebus since they didn't have direct contact with the rest of the imperium yet as far as I know)
and having a human faction that isn't the imperium would be nice, also the Interex had xenos in their empire as well, so they should allow them in as long as they don't have Chaos taint.
I can understand it's sometimes a stretch to see yourself in the shoes of a species like the Tyranids, with their hivemind and inscrutable alien motivation, but if you've got drunk and thrown a punch in a bar you can understand what it's like to be an Ork.
You really want something centauroid? Zoats. Job done.
Zoats Army would be cool, comming to the galaxy with vengance on Leviathan and Imperium for their fleet Colossus
It's crazy, I was literally just talking to my friend yesterday about making the interex Warhammers next army. Another human race in power armour, with advanced tech and new vehicles would be absolutely insane. I would buy in ASAP. They got did so dirty in the books, GW would have done better to keep them around in the lore as a small splinter empire, that sometimes helps imperium and sometimes is at odds with it. So much missed potential.. In my opinion it's GWs biggest story telling blunder.. Just subscribed today, agree with video 100%
"Another human race in power armour" this is probably the reason they won't come in my opinion.
As a Greek, i can give you some advice based on our history. Well if you want to make a ancient greek like faction in 40k you need this...
The chacteristics of Greek civilization in human history.
1.very few in numbers.
2.polis nations.
3.dodecatheon(12 gods)
4.highly technologicaly advanced.
5.standing in a highly strategic location. you can't have them in the backround of the galaxy.
6.bastion of humanity(west) from barbarian invasions(highly sofisticated empires).
7.World wonders
8.From a small limited space to a sudden expansion.
Based from the above, the characteristics of a new Interex civilisation should look like this.
1. Around 30-50 billion people total.
2. Maybe a star system or a few which each and every planet is self governt. You can't have a central goverment.
3.it would be very thematic each and every planet be highly specialised on what they contribute to the whole. I imagine their civ having around 12 planets each based from an olympic god. For example. Demeter an agri world or Hephaestus a forge world or Athena a scientific world.
4. it wouldn't make sense to have an intact STC. I would say give them a damaged STC but they continue to evolve just like tau.
5.i know it's easy to introduce them in the backround of the galaxy but that's not cool anyways. their location must be of high importance, if not right away, in the future.
6.Must give them an anathema or arch nemesis to fight over their borders for millenia.
7.Greeks stayed in history for their culture and architecture. I would say that the main goal it would be to make them build an Dyson swarm or Sphere.
8.Use the energy from the Dyson swarm for a unique lost to time ftl travel and let them expand.(alexander the great style).
THE GRIMMDARK
Although i agree with most in your video. Xenophobe Greeks would end up being a mini empire of man, so here is an alternative.
From the last interaction with the empire, the new faction is highly isolationist with no room for deplomacy which means first they destroy anything that come near their space and then they ask questions, i imagine it a highly defensive faction with units to match their playstyle. I would love to see some space spartans with energy fields creating a phalanx nullifying range attacks from long distance forcing the enemy getting closer to give them pain.
what do you think?
I dig it!
I'm pretty new to 40k. Well, new as in, once upon a time some 20 years ago I got some Dark Angels models to paint. But got back into and started playing at the end of 9th. (Now maining Black Templars)
Reading some books so I don't know all the lore and factions, but a centaur based faction would be sick.
I had one idea though, maybe they could have a type of squad that utilises pets (like a hunter class) maybe some sort of wolf hybrid, or something simian like you suggested with the Kong Dreadnaught.
Anyways, new subscriber from Australia and I really dig your vids, been watching a stack the last week
Yeah…….. except they were wiped out before the heresy even broke out.
I Like how you also woven some plausible scenario and politics into the narrative too, not just having new faction popping up and immediately shooting left and right.
I would so play them, they just sound so different and interesting compared to regular humans
Enslavers should be a kill team kit, maybe with rules to have them as hq for an astra militarum army proxying as a pdf. This could probly apply to slaugth, rak'gol and other minor xenos from Fantasy Flights rpg fluff
I love that the Interex use energy bows.
Weren't the Interex wiped out by Horus in the lead up to the heresy?
Too much change happening at GW. New Armies are coop by me but making old units unusable across the board proves that buying their product is basically a waste of money if you're in it to play tabletop.
thats kind of crazy, these guys always stuck with me after reading about them, when they found out that the imperium didn't even know about the warp (the emperor keeping a tight lid on it) they saw the imperium as bumbling children stumbling blind through a warehouse of knives and couldn't figure out how they haven't wiped themselves out yet.
What if instead of them having no Warp or FTL capabilities, They were a fleet of Interex trying to escape the Imperium during the Great Crusade? They could have used some faulty technology to escape and it flung them through the Warp like the Dark Angels and threw them into the future. They could be a few hundred thousand or a couple million in numbers but are mostly civilians. This way there is still relatively a low amount of them and their hatred of the Imperium would still be fresh.
One i would like to see come back in 40k is the Olamic Quietude, basically they were "human necrons" of some kind, i really like how they were described, it was little but was cool in my opinion.
I’d personally love to see a game set in the Great Crusade era, so many new miniatures and cool Xenos races could be designed to battle against. Rangdan xenocides would be fun to play.
Honestly, a statline creation mechanic for the current system would do the trick.
If they make a brand new army, I think it's going to be whatever Valdor is building in his pocket dimension
I feel that the Guilliman strategy you proposed would make sense. He'd also be conflicted, coming from a era that was against the warp use already (ie council of Nikaea). He's somewhat aware of Big E's plan from then
This will be class, something a bit different. Hopefully have some kinebrach units as well.
I really like your theory, as the Interex are one of my favorite parts of 40k's lore, there is only one point of critique I would raise. There is precedent for nulls being able to enter the warp, via the Sisters of Silence and the Black Ships executing the Psyker tithe. There is precedent for exclusive real-space flight in the setting in the form of the Chartist Captains which account for 90% of the spaceflight and shipping in the Imperium and only fly set routes. I like the limited territory approach to this faction, but it isn't necessarily required to limit them to slower than light, but the option is there. I really do like your approach to this, but did want to touch on this point. One other point, I like the Null approach, and might be misremembering this, but I'm fairly certain there was a line referencing the Sisters of Silence, upon Guillaman's return which depicted a Sister in proximity of a Navigator, and counter to the expectation of mind-rending agony befalling said individual, it actually became easier for the navigator to guide the ship they were on.
The idea that females aren't represented in 40k is a bit ridiculous when you look at how heavily they are in Eldar factions, not to mention the Imperial Guard (which you could eaisly kit bash as there are many model makers out there), and they are also very present in Necromunda, which you could proxy models into an army for. I would argue that their limitations on representation are self imposed due to lack of imagination.
Army wide special rule:
Combat Formation
At the start of the game nominate each unit of Hoplite Warriors. Choose a combat formation from the following;
Skirmishers:
A unit of skirmishers has +2 M, +1 to charge and can enter the table from any board edge outside of 9" from any enemy unit.
Turtle Shell:
The unit has a Shield Projector Drone. The unit has a permanent +1 cover and armor save.
Phalanx:
The unit has +1 BS, +1 A, and rerolls 1s to hit and wound enemy vehicles and units with 2+ AS
…. They were destroyed by Horus before the heresy started.
[2:39*🤔2:50*] Interesting that you'd choose *'The INTEREX'* as a New Army, since one of the main arguments that their detractors in the XVI SoH Legion had against them (prior to their subsequent annihilation) was that while they are indeed Human, they choose to *_Mix & Mingle_* with various *_Alien Races_* & have them integrated & working throughout their whole society at large.**
(* & the fact that you don't really care for any of the myriad of 40K Xenos Races)
(** & thus, to properly represent them on the Tabletop, you need to include at least a few Xenos models to represent this.....if you wished to maintain/favor *_Lore Accuracy_* that is)
Thanks NExile ~ Interesting & thought-provoking as ever [};-)=*~
In my 30 years of experience in 40 K, women tend to play elves, craftworld or dark elves. They like the costuming, they like painting them, and there are many female characters.
The army that makes the most sense is dark mechanicus, with the introduction of vashtor, at the end of 9th ed. alternatively, the introduction of imperium nialus, leaves room for several side races that have been mentioned in the lore, to grow without the imperial boot, as it were. Could be something again to the tau story.
I really liked the interex in the Horus heresy and would love to see them in the 40k lore
as for women being represented in 40k.... there is always imperial guard. Never known them to turn away a warm body that can hold a lasgun.
There's a fascinating study that LEGO conducted on the different way that boys and girls play. Boys tend to adopt the personality of the characters they like. Where girls tend to imprint their own personality onto the character. Interesting stuff. Worth a look.
I liked the Interex in the book. Wish they was fleshed out more.
Great idea of bringing them back. I agree, they would be good. But your description sounded like early plans for the tau
I would hope its ec but I fear it will be a snowflake force
Love the idea. Been search my self of what the interx would look like. Love those images. Thank you
Weren't the Interex "brought into compliance" (ie, obliterated and paved over)?
8:05 If you look closely you can see what the designer went for hear which is... indeed unorthodox yet would almost make sense I would say?
As you can see, the rider sits a bit back, is not the total front body centaurs usually are depicted as.
The first joint that you see, at the height of the big swirly ornamental armor, is his knee. Then it bends back straight downward into his heel. You can see his entire boot and foot there. The mech-armor then elongates his foot with an EXTRA joint at the end that has the hoof attached. - It looked silly at first, until I looked at it for longer and puzzled out what's going on. This is really creative design. Applause to the artist.
I really like the Kinebrach addition to the Interex, there's a lot more potential there. Since the Interex are a Greco-Roman inspired army, what if they had a specialist division that resembled Gladiators? Also, the Interex really should use AI to the max if this army really wants to stand out in the 40k universe, given the Adeptus Mechanicus forbids AI. Be AI used in a swarm of fighter drones, legions of robot soldiers, AI tactician, AI logistics, walkers from Star Wars, I don't care.
The centaur bit often confused me but if the four legs really is just a platform the warriors ride, then they should put the rear to use like a deploy station for small drones or a power station to release a dome energy shield or a turret station. As far as we know, the Interex are lacking TANKS. I dont know if the centaurs would be as fast as jetbikes, therefore the centaurs should at least act as mini-tanks. Apart from that, what the Interex really need are TITANS -- I'm picturing the Colossus of Rhodes
If the Interex are going to keep their laser spears and crossbows, that's fine though let's not forget the Shield played a huge role in the Roman armies especially the Tortoise, so the Interex shields (be they energy or solid shields) needs to play a big role too. Maybe like the ballistic shield in Black Ops 4 with a bolt machine gun attached to it or flame-thrower, or a tower shield with hover tech. Secondly, the siege and war machines is what gave the Roman army many victories, so the Interex should have some kickass artilleries (maybe ones that use AI tech). Perhaps the Kinebrach can make some badass weaponry that the Interex shouldn't shy away from, or maybe utilize secret tech the Eldar shared with the Interex.
Wasn't the Interex described as 'spacemarine' likeness? This is great dude 😁👍🏻
I do like what you talk about, the concept and ideas. And I also like Tau and realise that in this concept stage they basically feel like the human version of Tau (it could be argued that Tau are just the xeno version of the interex and I would agree since interex was released in lore before Tau).
But this means it feels like they aren't really filling a niche in the setting or contributing much new, and their existence is really a non threat since "don't go there" is enough.
But what if we change how they survived and how they get reintroduced quite a lot and some aspects a bit? A sub-race of semi-blanks, but how one in a billion is a psycher with great powers that are keenly kept in check due to how sometimes you can only fight fire with fire. Maybe this can be used in some way to make them a bit more distinct.
And what if they had some ancient device of xeno origin that was unclear in its function, they knew it transported things to another place but no servitor equivalent has returned and no signal can reach where they are sent. But they know it's a place of safety, the devices function is an emergency exit.
So, they use it when they realize they can't win against the imperium, opting for uncertain chance of prolonged survival over certain annihilation.
They are transported into the webway and get kinda stuck in their region. They probably have encounters with the dark eldar, maybe this part of the webway is more or less closed off because it's damaged and have demon invasions, or maybe it was damaged because it's adjacent to the webway to the golden throne?
Anyway, they establish their webway empire, fight of drukhari and become deeply distrustful against xenos and humans in general, but with their tech savvy and captured drukhari they start reverse engineering some of their tech, allowing them to navigate the webway and exit it. But since their own pocket is relatively peaceful there's no real need to establish in the more physical realm.
Until Vashtorr with wormwood comes crashing through, tearing their pocket open to the warp and forcing them out into physical space again. Before they were just "minor pirate incidents" to the imperium, but now they need a new place to live and inhabit. And with the help of the webway they can move around without using warp travel. And this is why they can pose a threat as an invasion force and pop up all over the galaxy, searching for systems to take over, colonize and defend. Because the webway they have access to is getting corrupted by the warp.
So this would make them a bit more of the human version of eldar I guess, but you could also add on layers or versions.
Like one version being how they are trapped in their little pocket of webway that is completely isolated due to rips into the warp. They become warp tainted and are disgusted with themselves, but due to being semi-blanks they never really loose themselves and their mind. So once Vashtorr comes crashing through it also leaves them with an exit to pour out from.
Their mission is to take vengeance on the imperium that forced them to this fate, fight chaos and once all that is done end their own race for their taint, but until then they will use it to reach their goal. Perhaps they don't give a fudge about xenos either way, perhaps it's specifically eldar and drukhari they hate for not freeing them from the tainted pocket, rest of xenos are "meh". They might even view the Tyranids as a weird ally, helping them achieve the tabula rasa they aim for and use their tech to study them in order to try to find a way to manipulate them in where and when to strike, might even go so far as trying to impose mutations that will help the Tyranids against an upcoming foe. Also sampling from them in order to bio engineer monsters of war, unleashed into the enemy with blind fury but with a safety switch explosive pack in the brain once they outlived their use or try to turn against them.
I dunno, I like the concept you presented but want to make it a bit less Tau 2.0 🙂
I’d collect this army in a heart beat.
I don't think they are nulls. They simply ware way different in culture and mind-set to Luna Wolves. This is why they seemed strange to Horus and his fleet.
In their first meeting with Horus Fleet they are mentioned to send message to his ship in every known way includeing astropathic message. So they had psykers but since Interex is used more as plot tool their society is not explained in more detail
I think the Dark Mechanicem would be cool.
I think other good candidates for lore-established forces to bring to tabletop would be the Blood Pact (similar enough to, but also distinct from, Traitor Guard), and the Dark Mechanicus.
Chaos, as we all know, is a dark, twisted, mirror version of the Materium, and I'd like to see more examples of the antithetical, inverted dichotomy presented between Chaos Space Marines vs Loyalist Adeptus Astartes, Imperial vs Traitor Knights, etc.
12:52 The contempt in those eye lenses. Are you sure that's not from after they went grimdark?
In the first picture of the centaur suit, the person is sitting down. I think the sitting down position makes sense and they could detach if needed, but lose some speed. The heavy looking one could be like cathafract heavy cavalery
The Imperium's contention with the Interex was their integration with xenos. Even the megarachnids were allowed to live in quarantine. A new Interex would be like the Covenant - subjugating other races for their best interest in a heavily fleet-based civilisation. I would also add that 10,000 years is more than enough time for them to forget their lost civilisation, Horus, etc. Their hatred for other human civilisations would be purely mythological.
A big thing about the interex was that they weren't specifically warp null. They got warp weapons from the kinebrach, who made them unkowingly.
GW is currently trying to scrub out all the grimdark from the 40k universe, new races or armies aren't top priority. They have make it all safe for the kids and soy boys who want their "happy fuzzy ducky adventures" instead of anything hard-edged and gritty.
I would make them send fleets of survivors in different directions, this could open up interaction with other races, tau maybe, where you can add in some centaur dudes. That would broaden where and against whom the can fight.
Also they could have some sort of powerarmor, that slots into different "mounts", like the centaur or a chariot styled vehicle, or be fielded as just pa infantry. Oh, and jump infantry with stealthgenerators, that make them look like phasejumping around.
Overall a cool concept.
Not something in 40k, but something I *want to see* in 40k - Space Skaven. Think Warhammer Fantasy 6th edition, don't care about their own troops, pure mad science. Kind of like Orks, but instead of being melee focused and beating each other up for funsies, a malevolent race with a focus on shooting, happy to send their own to their deaths, using crazy mad science on themselves and their enemies.
Some ideas of the top of my head:
They're all nulls so for any human to join they need to be 'nulled'. they're put through a dangerous and often fatal procedure that severs their connection to the warp, effectively a "de-souling".
Given the Interexs near extinction and the loss of their culturally rich empire they devolved into a far more militaristic society valuing combat prowess above all else. Very little of their society is focused on anything but the need to fight; they are perpetually in a cultural state of 'total war'.
Given their low population they make extensive use of cloning but in a unique way. No true Interex is a standard grunt. Each is trained to perfection and once they become worthy of command they are cloned and the clones become the fireteam they will lead. The clones lack more in depth strategy and critical thinking but make the perfect counterparts for their true self. The original is considered the 'head' and the clones the 'body'; both working in perfect union as a cohesive combat unit.
I would 1 million precent get into this army!! What a great idea
Now I know lot of people wouldn't like this but I feel this would be perfect for one of the missing primarchs and the reason he was struck from history because he was a null who's power was so intense that when focusing his power could hurt the Emperor and the reason he was removed was he found out about chaos and that the emperor has made deals with its gods (which I'm 99% sure has) and decided to kill his father and all psychers to save humanity from Chaos. Then you could have it that in he was in a void battle and his ship exploded due to some dark age of technology weapon.
Due to his enginuity he escaped with a cloaked escape ship wounded to the point he put himself in stasis and was found by the Interex assuming him a member of the imperium the readied to interrogate him but before they could say a word he was already screaming about ending his deamon worshiping father and ending that damn imperium.
He could take a direct leadership position or like a second leading the armies from the front.
just a thought, what if the Interex wepons and armors are more based on greek myth a la Homer's Odyssey? such as; harpy armors (as a counter part to the Sisters of batte, and maybe even IG arospace), Greek Spinx like dreadnoughts , Kraken shaped tanks (imagine a giant squid wit cannons for legs sliding across the battlefield ejecting an ECM /Visibility cloud... Plasma javelins that work more like High tech atlatl (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear-thrower), hydra like ships,..etc,
just a thought...
Be interested on thoughts on how they would play on the table, how would their strengths/weaknesses result in s different/varied playstyle to other factions? What would their stratagems generally lean too?
Romas often threw their javelins at close range just before connecting in melee, and were good at shifting their formations around when they started to grow tired or were about to break. This gives me an idea for a faction that wants to stay close to take advantage of some devastating but close range shooting and can charge in if need be, but doesn't do well in extended melee, so has some abilities that help them disengage, not in a hit and run style but taking a small step back to blast their oponents. And their bigger units like the centaurs or big monke could be good at shooting into melee while looking for an opening to charge in at some high value target
Nice idea.
And even if all their worlds were already known to the Imperium, which is unlikely, even if so, if the Interex basically saw them coming some worlds could have put everything on moving as much as they can onto new worlds to get away from them and rebuild, which is why they can come back now after thousands of years having rebuilt and developed. And that also goes with them having been underway to settle elsewhere for a long time and not wanting to stay too long near places where there is more traffic in space.
More or less as the Squats stayed out of sight, or even how the Tau were left alone for thousands of years and developed fast.
And with them walking on four legs, they should be faster, maybe have less of a penalty on moving and shooting heavy weapons, maybe have some back and side mounted weapons and also being nice in hand to hand combat. Since they are high tech only skimmers and flying vehicles.
But weapons, high range and damage but very few shots ? For some maybe still the possibility of getting hot ?
How would you narratively explain the Interex encountering the Tau and Votann for these geographically restricted factions to meet up so players who want a narrative reason for the armies to fight one and other?
Make the interex be allied with or used as mercinaries by the eldar, who transport them by the webway
I was pretty dubious about how you were going to do this, but in the end I think your idea works quite well.
Were the Interex not destroyed?
You mean the Intersex ? is this a new woke gender neutral WH40K army ?! bring it on my Little Trojan My Little Ponies.
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Were did you get rhe art that you used its awesome
The Unaligned Faction from the Legends indexes is how I would do the Enslavers etc.
I enjoyed the video, but these guys aren't grim dark to me. You've said they are, but I'm not convinced.
It's an easy one for me; traitor guard. Call them Lost and the Damned, use existing stuff like chaos knights, add traitor guard, beastmen and dark mechanicum and you've got something awesome that flies off the shelves.
Someone needs to make a printable figure of these infantry cuz I need these for my guard army.
It would really fit into the lore if the interex empire was located in Imperium Nihilus. They join in the fight for chaos and the Blood Angels and the Lion have no choice but to team up with them to try and retake Nihilus from chaos
Legion of the Damned fully realised with full lore as the emperor's fully fledged entities of the warp.
They were cool in lore for sure and it would make sense some survived destruction by fleeing.
I’d like to see the rah ghul (not sure if correct spelling ) or those crazy mega arachnids on planet murder. As they were at least more sentinent than tyranids.
Though I guess from logistical gaming point it would be better for GW to reduce factions and expand existing ones with more support rules / models / lore .
Then again from purely a hobbyist view point more races the better , as more to collect and paint
I was skeptical at first, but you sold me on the idea. I enjoy the notion of man portable anti-matter guns
Tau axillarg troops would be nice considering in the lore they do have counters to psykers and other stuff the imperium has
16:10 "Ghost glaives"?
Sounds kinda familiar... 🤔
I kinda wanna use this in a 40k fanfic might do that
There is no way the Interex are ever being added. And if they did decide to revive them and add them as their own faction before Dark Mechanicum, I will be extremely pissed off. The interex have served their purpose, but they’re gone.
The more I think about it, I like the idea of this. I think they should view the Emperor as no different than the other gods.
Small games like Kill team or Necromunda would be cools spots to put in small amounts of those rare but mentioned races that are alive in 40k current.
Where any of the planets the primarks where sent to space faring?
11 days late, just came across this. Fantastic idea!!!
I think maybe make them a bit of a combination of Greek and WHFB Bretonian for art style. Knight shaped helmets, but round Hoplite shields on the left arm, and horse hair crests on their French medieval helmets. Centaur Power Armor, or Centyr armor if you will. Only 10% of the population are able to control their power armor, so they're the ruling class. They're Grim-Dark in that they have a Helot/Peasant class that just can never be anything else. Starship wise, maybe a techno slave galley look. Like Triremes in space.
From what I remember weren't the Interex a coalition of multiple alien races that had come together under one banner rather then it just being a singular race?
In horus rising they just evacuate out of interex space. Hours even goes onto say they will try diplomacy again later since the interex wasn't going to get in their way
The k8ng in yellow. Blanks, graels, feral angels, all the chapters. It would be glorious
Give them a near lightspeed, just over lightspeed drive, so it takes years, not decades to get to another system, without the warp. Something like the alcubiere drive or the necrons inertialess drive. It would still have taken 10k ish years to get to their new home, given fuel requirements/stopovers at random planet X as they went etc.
They are not eliminated????