Just a suggestion. Connect several large storage tanks piped together to increase volume of air stored. We did useing old, no longer needed propane tanks. It doesn't matter how big your compressor is. Let it run and shut off take much longer bc you are filling a LARGER volume. You will not quickly "run out of air pressure". Try it
@@Itsallaboutthebuild FYI. We have a CNC Strippit Turret Press that go;;les up air. When we added 3 500 gallon tanks we were able to SAVE on electricity consumption of the 25 HP compressor. We sold that monster and bought a 7.5 small screw compressor and newer again had the big electricity bill. I'm convinced that would make a good vid bc no one is telling shops about this SIMPLE solution. Thanks for reading
@@Itsallaboutthebuild Eaton Screw Silent Rotary Compressor Label says. 7.5 horse. Mine is 3 phase commercial but smaller single phase are available. In my case, Eaton has these made in China but I have had zero problems at about 13 years of service. Do a google type search scroll vs, rotary to see differences, then Shop around for best value price vs. quality. Thanks for reading
Hello friend, great video, It's awesome seeing more home-brewed vapor blast systems being put together. Glass beads are round in shape and are best for light decontamination, cleaning, and polishing. I've had great success at removing coatings using sharp media like aluminum oxide or garnet in 36-80 grit. Be careful using these sharp 36-grit media on the mating surfaces of soft metals like aluminum, it's very aggressive. If you plan on stripping materials more than cleaning and polishing then putting together a dry system is best. The water from a wet system cushions the impact of the blast media. Have fun vapor blasting!
@@Itsallaboutthebuild Thank you, I appreciate your support. It's wonderful to see females showing interest in these types of hobbies. I bore my wife to pieces with my garage projects. I subscribed to keep up with your progress. Wishing you great success with your channel.
I vapor blast, I use a 5hp compressor over a 200g tank then assisted with a 3hp unit over a 40g tank - ton of air capacity. I still run out of capacity after 10m but can dry glass bead all day long. Your fighting a loosing battle with anything less than a 10hp compressor
Glass bead is great for cleaning and polishing. Rust and paint removal would require a more aggressive media like aluminum oxide or silicon carbide. A small compressor will work, it will just take you longer.
@@Itsallaboutthebuild I have several videos about my vapor blaster where I discuss vapor blasting in general as well. One of the things I covered was the fact CFM is king. You need to buy as much CFM as you can afford, which can get very expensive really fast. I have a 7.5 hp Eaton four cylinder two stage 80 gallon compressor I bought and it is dedicated to my vapor blaster. Depending on what PSI I'm blasting at, I still have to stop and let the compressor catch up. I don't want to exceed the duty cycle of the compressor. All of that to say, regardless of how much CFM you have, you can get the same results as I can, it will just take you longer, but the abrasive you use does make a big difference. Glass bead alone does not do well at removing paint and rust, even in the machine I have where I can blast at over 100 psi. That's why I use a combination of glass bead and aluminum oxide at an 80/20 ratio of glass bead to aluminum oxide. In a smaller setup like yours you might want to try something even more aggressive than AO like silicon carbide for example. I'd suggest you do some testing because SI is very aggressive. You might get better results with your setup if you used 100% AO, then switch over to all GB. That is until you can afford a larger compressor. Just so you know, you will never have enough CFM. Like I said, I have a 7.5 hp compressor and I wish I had bought a 10 hp. Don't give up on vapor blasting. For my needs, I will never use dry blasting for a few reasons. There is nothing dry blasting can do that I can't do with my vapor blaster as far as what I do in my shop, and it is much harder to damage parts with vapor blasting where with dry blasting you can destroy delicate parts very easily.
@@JohnDoesGarage great advice!!! Will have to try a few different media types as you’ve suggested. We have so many other projects, we put a hold on a larger CFM compressor. Any thoughts on the scroller type? We live in a very picky HOA 🤣
Using 80 grit is equivalent to a dry blast. It'll come off easier if you used the 80 grit dry. I'm now using 100-170 glass bead and now I get a nice finish
Vapor blasting can create a nicer polished finish compared to dry blasting with different types of glass bead media. You looking to restore car parts too???
i have an old 6hp 150psi craftsman compressor 120v standard house outlet find them on market place all day long.. works amazing with my converted harbor freight cabinet
That’s an interesting idea… but I think the pump helps circulate the media slurry as well because we have an extra hose from the pump feeding the bottom to stir the media up 👍
Good point. What I’ve seen from others is paint removal works way better with dry blasting. Wet is better for cleaning and polishing which depends on the PSI and media used. 👍
@@Itsallaboutthebuild You are absolutely correct, PSI and media do make a huge difference as I stated in my other reply. Keep in mind that there is nothing dry blasting can do that I can't do with my vapor blaster, but there are things I can do with my vapor blaster that can't be done with dry blasting. Blasting small, very thin aluminum trim pieces for example. That's why people use vapor blasting in restoration work.
@@JohnDoesGarage nice, read the other comments. We played around with a few smaller aluminum parts a few months ago and it didn’t do too bad with the very small items with the smaller cfm compressor 🙌
I'm a professional Vapor blaster everything you got and your theories are all wrong I'll give you a tip you need a rotary screw air compressor with at least 120 gallon tank
You can't just dump a pump in a 5 gallon pail add some water some glass bead it needs to be able to mix blend constantly keep the media in suspension with a consistent blend while I can appreciate the ingenuity but frankly legitimate Vapor blasters that have the proper equipment people bring these parts to somebody doing at half-assed gives the vapor blasting Community an inferior product in the end which turns people off
Yup compressor.. “what they DONT tell you”.. is it’s not hp, or psi .. it’s CFM, capacity and duty cycle of the compressor. Always heard don’t buy the biggest single stage compressor.. buy the biggest 2 stage compressor u can afford.. Pneumatic sanders and blasters need a lot for continuous use..
FULL BUILD parts list here 👉 www.allaboutthebuild.com/blog/2023/3/how-to-restore-your-car-parts
Just a suggestion. Connect several large storage tanks piped together to increase volume of air stored. We did useing old, no longer needed propane tanks. It doesn't matter how big your compressor is. Let it run and shut off take much longer bc you are filling a LARGER volume. You will not quickly "run out of air pressure". Try it
@@emissiontechnician that’s an awesome idea. We can probably find a couple of old tanks on FB marketplace 🙌🙌🙌
@@Itsallaboutthebuild FYI. We have a CNC Strippit Turret Press that go;;les up air. When we added 3 500 gallon tanks we were able to SAVE on electricity consumption of the 25 HP compressor. We sold that monster and bought a 7.5 small screw compressor and newer again had the big electricity bill. I'm convinced that would make a good vid bc no one is telling shops about this SIMPLE solution. Thanks for reading
GOBBLES up air. I didn't proof read b4 sending
@@emissiontechnician was looking into a scroll air compressor from Eastwood. What type of screw air compressor are you using???
@@Itsallaboutthebuild Eaton Screw Silent Rotary Compressor Label says. 7.5 horse. Mine is 3 phase commercial but smaller single phase are available. In my case, Eaton has these made in China but I have had zero problems at about 13 years of service. Do a google type search scroll vs, rotary to see differences, then Shop around for best value price vs. quality. Thanks for reading
Hello friend, great video, It's awesome seeing more home-brewed vapor blast systems being put together. Glass beads are round in shape and are best for light decontamination, cleaning, and polishing. I've had great success at removing coatings using sharp media like aluminum oxide or garnet in 36-80 grit. Be careful using these sharp 36-grit media on the mating surfaces of soft metals like aluminum, it's very aggressive.
If you plan on stripping materials more than cleaning and polishing then putting together a dry system is best. The water from a wet system cushions the impact of the blast media.
Have fun vapor blasting!
Hey Victor THANK YOU for the pro tips. We’re actually using your 3D printed nozzle. It’s awesome 🙌🙌🙌
@@Itsallaboutthebuild Thank you, I appreciate your support. It's wonderful to see females showing interest in these types of hobbies. I bore my wife to pieces with my garage projects. I subscribed to keep up with your progress.
Wishing you great success with your channel.
@@vbared THANKS MUCH!!! We do have lots of fun together 👍
I vapor blast, I use a 5hp compressor over a 200g tank then assisted with a 3hp unit over a 40g tank - ton of air capacity. I still run out of capacity after 10m but can dry glass bead all day long. Your fighting a loosing battle with anything less than a 10hp compressor
@@timsimpson4579 that’s a nice setup, definitely need something waayyy bigger/better 🙌🙌🙌
Glass bead is great for cleaning and polishing. Rust and paint removal would require a more aggressive media like aluminum oxide or silicon carbide. A small compressor will work, it will just take you longer.
@@JohnDoesGarage we need something much better. Thought 29 gallon small 1.5 hp would do it, but it just can’t keep up even for a few minutes 😥😥😥
@@Itsallaboutthebuild I have several videos about my vapor blaster where I discuss vapor blasting in general as well. One of the things I covered was the fact CFM is king. You need to buy as much CFM as you can afford, which can get very expensive really fast. I have a 7.5 hp Eaton four cylinder two stage 80 gallon compressor I bought and it is dedicated to my vapor blaster. Depending on what PSI I'm blasting at, I still have to stop and let the compressor catch up. I don't want to exceed the duty cycle of the compressor. All of that to say, regardless of how much CFM you have, you can get the same results as I can, it will just take you longer, but the abrasive you use does make a big difference. Glass bead alone does not do well at removing paint and rust, even in the machine I have where I can blast at over 100 psi. That's why I use a combination of glass bead and aluminum oxide at an 80/20 ratio of glass bead to aluminum oxide. In a smaller setup like yours you might want to try something even more aggressive than AO like silicon carbide for example. I'd suggest you do some testing because SI is very aggressive. You might get better results with your setup if you used 100% AO, then switch over to all GB. That is until you can afford a larger compressor. Just so you know, you will never have enough CFM. Like I said, I have a 7.5 hp compressor and I wish I had bought a 10 hp. Don't give up on vapor blasting. For my needs, I will never use dry blasting for a few reasons. There is nothing dry blasting can do that I can't do with my vapor blaster as far as what I do in my shop, and it is much harder to damage parts with vapor blasting where with dry blasting you can destroy delicate parts very easily.
@@JohnDoesGarage great advice!!! Will have to try a few different media types as you’ve suggested. We have so many other projects, we put a hold on a larger CFM compressor. Any thoughts on the scroller type? We live in a very picky HOA 🤣
Make sure there aren’t any restrictions in your air line. 1/2 “ hose
@@chrisrichardson7217 thx!!!
You should make a video making it so more people can get into it and know how to properly set it up. Great video.
Thx!!! Absolutely, just need to find the right air compressor :)
Using 80 grit is equivalent to a dry blast. It'll come off easier if you used the 80 grit dry.
I'm now using 100-170 glass bead and now I get a nice finish
Good to know. Will have to switch it up to dry and wet for nicer finish 🙌🙌🙌
I have two 60-gal air compressors 5 hp 10cfm each to run my Harbor Freight sandblaster and I still have to wait when it gets below 90 psi.
Oh wow, how long of a wait?
Im looking to get my own vapour blasting stuff any tips on what to get and what not to get i have compressor already ?
@@MelaineD-se4nt what size air compressor??? That’s the most important part. Oh and probably a metal nozzle. You can find some on Amazon
What is the advantage of the vapor blaster versus dry blasting?
Vapor blasting can create a nicer polished finish compared to dry blasting with different types of glass bead media. You looking to restore car parts too???
i have an old 6hp 150psi craftsman compressor 120v standard house outlet find them on market place all day long.. works amazing with my converted harbor freight cabinet
I’ve seen one on Facebook marketplace was about to buy it the other day. Might just do that. THANKS 🙌🙌🙌
@It's all about the build picked mine up for $125 a month ago
Nice!!! That’s a great price.
Not sure how you can have 6hp on 120V. The math doesn’t add up. On 120V you can have max 2hp.
@@macieksiemczyk1096 5hp 20 gallon 120v
Might need a little more sand in the mix
Works well while we have a full tank and about 1-2 minutes after the air compressor kicks on it's not strong enough :(
How about gravity feed water and media by hanging the bucket over head, can you avoid using pump in this setup or does pump serve another purpose?
That’s an interesting idea… but I think the pump helps circulate the media slurry as well because we have an extra hose from the pump feeding the bottom to stir the media up 👍
Be good if we saw results from dry vs wet blasting?
Really want to make one...thanks
Good point. What I’ve seen from others is paint removal works way better with dry blasting. Wet is better for cleaning and polishing which depends on the PSI and media used. 👍
@@Itsallaboutthebuild You are absolutely correct, PSI and media do make a huge difference as I stated in my other reply. Keep in mind that there is nothing dry blasting can do that I can't do with my vapor blaster, but there are things I can do with my vapor blaster that can't be done with dry blasting. Blasting small, very thin aluminum trim pieces for example. That's why people use vapor blasting in restoration work.
@@JohnDoesGarage nice, read the other comments. We played around with a few smaller aluminum parts a few months ago and it didn’t do too bad with the very small items with the smaller cfm compressor 🙌
I'm a professional Vapor blaster everything you got and your theories are all wrong I'll give you a tip you need a rotary screw air compressor with at least 120 gallon tank
Thx, the issue is low CFM for sure. What brand rotary screw air compressor for more home DIY would you recommend???
You can't just dump a pump in a 5 gallon pail add some water some glass bead it needs to be able to mix blend constantly keep the media in suspension with a consistent blend while I can appreciate the ingenuity but frankly legitimate Vapor blasters that have the proper equipment people bring these parts to somebody doing at half-assed gives the vapor blasting Community an inferior product in the end which turns people off
The old saying is that you should have left things well alone Murphy rule if it is working don't F with it 😭
@@markhuyette8509 🤣🤣🤣
You need a much bigger compressor
@@jimstern4244 110% agree, thinking about a scroller. Don’t want the neighbors complaining to the HOA 🤣🤣🤣
@@Itsallaboutthebuild ugh the HOA !!!!!!!! They are demons from hell 😫
@@jimstern4244 🤣🤣🤣 right???
Wrong tool for the job.
@@dpmulvan which tool, the air compressor?
Yup compressor.. “what they DONT tell you”.. is it’s not hp, or psi .. it’s CFM, capacity and duty cycle of the compressor.
Always heard don’t buy the biggest single stage compressor.. buy the biggest 2 stage compressor u can afford..
Pneumatic sanders and blasters need a lot for continuous use..
@@robaxelsson530 Absolutely, would love to get a much bigger CFM capable compressor... Just need 220v and some $$$😅
Paint stripper
@@funone8716 that works 👉th-cam.com/video/ikKImauMV60/w-d-xo.html