Writing Strong Characters - The Important Distinction Between Want and Need

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  • In this video I explore one of the most overlooked aspects of screenwriting, "Want Vs. Need", and apply it to Lord of the Rings, The Matrix, and Toy Story.
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  • @ThinkStory
    @ThinkStory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

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    • @zaczaclee
      @zaczaclee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i NEED more

  • @TheUgliestBarnacle
    @TheUgliestBarnacle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2475

    “Want drives plot, need drives theme”
    Damn, man. Nice.

    • @YaGaffNonce
      @YaGaffNonce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Need does not necessarily drive theme. I would say that statement is bold enough to be simply deemed incorrect. It happens a lot, but most certainly not enough to make such a simplified statement such as "need drives theme". Rather, I would say it can greatly contribute to theme. That is a statement which is misleading without specificity.
      Take Frodo in The Lord of the Rings. Frodo needs Sam to destroy the ring (friendship/fellowship). However, according to Tolkien, the theme of the franchise is "Death and Immortality". It is also said to be "good and evil" by goodreads.com. Friendship is one of many themes in LOTR, but it is not the driving theme.
      I would agree that want almost always drives plot.
      Awesome video!

    • @isitchillyinahut5921
      @isitchillyinahut5921 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I drive, and I need for speed.

  • @zednotzee
    @zednotzee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3664

    Funny, when i watched Rocky as a kid i didn't realize he didn't win. He was still standing, the bell rung, everyone cheered, the music swelled and he got the girl. I thought he had won

    • @monicalukomski8884
      @monicalukomski8884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +534

      He might not have won the boxing match, but he ended up happy. That's why they did all the things that would leave you to believe thag he won. Because he did win.

    • @jacktbc3947
      @jacktbc3947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Zed Not Zee he became the people’s champion

    • @lucasgill7819
      @lucasgill7819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Because he won. He won the important battle

    • @newperve
      @newperve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      His stated goal was to go the distance with Apollo Creed so that he could prove he wasn't a bum. He did that. He accomplished his goals, so he did win in that sense.

    • @jasonleetaiwan
      @jasonleetaiwan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      He lost by decision, but he won in a way because no one expected him to go the distance. He set out to go the distance, and he did. If the match had gone on for another round, he would have knocked out Apollo, and that's why it's a great story.

  • @cjkalandek996
    @cjkalandek996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4397

    So, Aang in "Avatar: The Last Airbender" *wanted* to just be a kid but he *needed* to accept his role as the Avatar if he was gonna end the war.

    • @ChristopherCopeland
      @ChristopherCopeland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +654

      Cj Kalandek additionally, and in a more complex way, I think he actually had to overcome people’s expectations of him as “The Avatar”, realizing that if he was going to save the world, he had to do it in a way that was true to himself if he was to break the cycle that caused the problems to begin with.
      Avatar is wild. Haha.

    • @broccolinyu911
      @broccolinyu911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +287

      incredible example. I love Avatar. such a well developed show for being aimed at pre-teens and kids

    • @soridosuneku
      @soridosuneku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      @@broccolinyu911 Thank the head writer of Avatar at the time, Aaron Ehasz, for that. He knew how to develop the story that the creators of the show wanted to tell, and did it well

    • @ultron-5600
      @ultron-5600 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Kachu the movie was garbage but the animated show is actually pretty good and entertaining

    • @broccolinyu911
      @broccolinyu911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@ultron-5600 oh no, that was another film. I believe it was called "No shit, Sherlock"

  • @wenceslaobelano9858
    @wenceslaobelano9858 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2261

    This is an eye-opener. Big help to fiction writers out there. Thank you so much.

    • @chramoso
      @chramoso 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      agreed! in case you're looking for more writing tips, may i suggest checking out the channel Hello Future Me, he has great videos on writing (mostly fantasy though). :)

    • @lifeismusicparnadonkers
      @lifeismusicparnadonkers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I totally agree i love you,re explaning

  • @diweyproduction5861
    @diweyproduction5861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +848

    “Now we listed the 5 known differences, but what if a film doesn’t meet one of the standards.”
    “BuMbLe BeE sToP lUbErCaTiNg ThE mAn!”

    • @layicorn
      @layicorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      😏😉😈

    • @dayanmoshe9037
      @dayanmoshe9037 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/xZuQTd57NXg/w-d-xo.html
      do watch

    • @baussier134
      @baussier134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Michael Bay crap fest

    • @ameliaharper3762
      @ameliaharper3762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/xZuQTd57NXg/w-d-xo.html

    • @desiirwin35
      @desiirwin35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that would fall under fun.

  • @izenfaust3856
    @izenfaust3856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    "If you need me, but don't want me, I'll stay, but if you want me, but don't need me anymore, I'll go." Nanny McPhee 😄

  • @kisari-arts
    @kisari-arts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    It's that "Dig a little deeper" scene from Princess and the frog. You *want* to become human, but you are blind to what you need.

    • @ameliaharper3762
      @ameliaharper3762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/xZuQTd57NXg/w-d-xo.html

    • @stoneman18
      @stoneman18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, and they got what they wanted the moment they got what they needed. Still my favorite Disney movie

  • @OliKember
    @OliKember 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1351

    Thanks, this was great. It's all about that internal vs external battle. And to add to this, sometimes what they want is actually what gets in the way of their need, and their journey can be about letting go of the want, in order to fulfil and realise the need. Just another way to play it. Cheers!

    • @ThinkStory
      @ThinkStory  6 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      You got it! So many films don't do that.

    • @PkrBarMovie
      @PkrBarMovie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      That's actually an objectively better way to go about it, as sacrifice cannot fail to evoke strong emotions when executed properly.

    • @iPodiMaster
      @iPodiMaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the clarification, Oliver. I honestly had some trouble understanding

    • @davidbjacobs3598
      @davidbjacobs3598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Like in Up, Carl wants to bring his house to Paradise Falls to wait out the rest of his life, but he needs to go create a new adventure and learn to live without Ellie. In order to realize this, he has to abandon all of his furniture and finally the house itself. The line, "It's just a house," hits me every. damn. time.

    • @Agbahizzal
      @Agbahizzal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This seems to be the one way to summarize the life of all those who have become agents of maturation throughout the generations.

  • @robertminnie782
    @robertminnie782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +761

    "What you want isn't the same as what you need" _(Disney's Princess and the Frog,_ 2009).

    • @HiruHeart
      @HiruHeart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I was thinking about the song "Dig a Little Deeper" while watching!

    • @lightn2783
      @lightn2783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heh

    • @domacinerast1664
      @domacinerast1664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Omg yes I just watched that movie yesterday after few years and it's pretty well done with its story and the characters

    • @malaksafa4074
      @malaksafa4074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking about this just now!

    • @robertminnie782
      @robertminnie782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@domacinerast1664
      I still find it impressive too. That movie was a gem. Good message behind it and well-executed arcs to illustrate it.
      I watched it over and over again... STILL so good.

  • @animarts954
    @animarts954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    This is the reason why side character are more appreciated than the main character. The main character can often time revert to their old ways and hinder there more than the viewer realizes.

  • @valkyrie5018
    @valkyrie5018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +400

    Literally every time a lotr clip plays I start to cry and then it ends immediately and I’m fine. Then more clips play. The lotr movies are just that amazing

    • @fan-girlsanonymous7650
      @fan-girlsanonymous7650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Valkyrie501 I was the same way with the matrix clips lol though Lotr is most excellent

    • @baylee8659
      @baylee8659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's what happened with me at the end of the video when he played Rocky lol. INSTANT tears.

    • @okas_art
      @okas_art 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LITERALLY ME 😂

  • @KekerikiGreen
    @KekerikiGreen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Like how you began and ended on that rocky note

    • @Bennahr_Fett
      @Bennahr_Fett 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Me_Caveman ?? huh ?

  • @CodyJancaric
    @CodyJancaric 5 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    The WANT / NEED connection to your viewing experience with Rocky is absolutely brilliant!

  • @idanil016
    @idanil016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    You should have mentioned that in Manchester by the Sea the absence of WANT is an essential part of Affleck's character. He is in depression, he suffered a lot and can't move past that suffering. It is a true portrayal of a mental breakdown. You really can feel it when you follow him in situations which are not related to his WANTS or NEEDS.

    • @akrinord
      @akrinord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah exactly, I was just going to write the same. The lack of want as the result of unfathomable loss is the heartbreaking point of that movie.

    • @niqueladajoa4759
      @niqueladajoa4759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Is too late but, yeah, I thought the same. He has been in pain for so long, that's why he doesn't have a WANT. MBTS is a great movie.

    • @joee8278
      @joee8278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed. I stopped watching when he suggested that Manchester by the Sea is not a great movie.

    • @Liam-tp7td
      @Liam-tp7td 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He has a want, it's to get out of Manchester. His nephew gets in the way because all his life is there.

  • @rhale115
    @rhale115 6 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    This was very well put together!

    • @ThinkStory
      @ThinkStory  6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks very much!

  • @schnoz2372
    @schnoz2372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Too well written, edited, read, and spoken to pass up. TH-cam recommendations rarely work for me but here I’ve found gold

  • @wesselconway3920
    @wesselconway3920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    You’ve explained this concept better than anyone ever has.

  • @IceRiver1020
    @IceRiver1020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Definitely something I'll think more about in my writing from now on!
    I have a character who wants to be free, but needs to be selfless. Which means giving up on freedom, because his desire for freedom is selfish, it's something that he has to hurt others to achieve, and something that would require him to follow in the footsteps of the man who took his freedom away in the first place. He would become like the man that he hates, something that would hurt himself as well as others.

    • @parkoho
      @parkoho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck on your writing!

  • @bryantdeutschman3409
    @bryantdeutschman3409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I just write my stories and characters based on my experience of watching movies and reading books I’ve loved, but it was interesting to watch the analysis you present. I didn’t even know I was writing that way already. Well done, I took notes. Thanks.

  • @100mhopkins
    @100mhopkins 5 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    THANK YOU! This was incredibly insightful and eyeopening for me. As an amateur, screenwriting enthusiast/hobbyist (yes, that's how I categorize myself) I sometimes jumble and mix up the need and the want and their symbiotic roles in creating a complete character and story. Thanks for the super clear explanation. I'll let you know if helps lift my screenplay off the runway!
    Mark - Columbus, Ohio

    • @ameliaharper3762
      @ameliaharper3762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/xZuQTd57NXg/w-d-xo.html

  • @shankarrammurthy8724
    @shankarrammurthy8724 6 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Nice ending with rocky freeze frame effect.

    • @ThinkStory
      @ThinkStory  6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Haha, unfortunately I can't take credit for that. That's the actual Rocky ending which worked out perfectly for me :)

  • @DD-nc3zx
    @DD-nc3zx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I was 8 first time watching Rocky. And loved it, because he did not won, like in any other stereotypical hero story.
    He lost but he was a hero. I dont understand people watching movies for a positive outcome. Its the journey that counts.

    • @aspiringeyecandy4856
      @aspiringeyecandy4856 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Penultimate sentence comes across as condescending.

    • @DD-nc3zx
      @DD-nc3zx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@aspiringeyecandy4856 to who? to positivitty people on planet eden? your comment is judgemental...and meaningless, why bothering to write it?

    • @shabeehhaider2553
      @shabeehhaider2553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wholeheartedly agree. Sometimes people just care more about the ending than the importance of the journey.

  • @izzytheamazing
    @izzytheamazing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I'm learning about storytelling so that I can figure out how to tell my own story. Currently working through the "Pixar in a Box" course on Khan Academy and I came here to learn more about "Wants vs Needs." Not only did this video help me understand it from a storytelling perspective, I also managed to create a wants/needs list for myself. Thank you for such a good video!

  • @m3ng252
    @m3ng252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is such a good essay, no words wasted. I wish I could write essays like this.

  • @jaredgunkle1562
    @jaredgunkle1562 5 ปีที่แล้ว +338

    rocky isnt about winning
    what i wanted was to see rocky win
    what i needed was to punch people more often

    • @warrentan831
      @warrentan831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Underrated comment

  • @robertmoore4050
    @robertmoore4050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Writing a good story is call life. That's what make a good character.
    I do comics and this will help me even more

  • @traumachild1737
    @traumachild1737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've always loved writting but I always find my characters weak, this video will be a great help to improving that. Thank you!

  • @williamhunter8773
    @williamhunter8773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This formula TRULY explains WHY I hate a lot of the movies I hate. You actually put it into words for me. This has been most insightful. Thank you

  • @starwing2814
    @starwing2814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was extremely helpful! I'm currently struggling in developing characters. I've struggled with this concept for a while. But now I feel like I have a good understanding! Thank you for this video!

  • @riverpaw3234
    @riverpaw3234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    *”Bumblebee, stop lubricating the man.”*

    • @dragongemgaming8294
      @dragongemgaming8294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I read this right when that scene was played in the video lol 🤣

  • @alfredhigglestein2828
    @alfredhigglestein2828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just wanted to say how helpful this video was for me. I've been wanting to write a story since I was a kid and having this sort of semi guideline for how to structure characters around their needs and the plot is super helpful. Great vid thanks again

  • @daelaenor
    @daelaenor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's so exciting to realize ways you could implement these things into your plot. By coincidence, I've already laid down a fitting scenario for wants and needs. My main character's want is to overthrow a tyranny in order to help the common folk (which in itself will be very ambiguous), and he needs to realize that he's someone special who has the ability to do so with the help of others who put trust in him.

  • @awkwardhomo972
    @awkwardhomo972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    okay so i suck at understanding things when people tell me something, but this was really detailed yet easy to understand for me :)

  • @BackboneAgZ
    @BackboneAgZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I’m not sure Manchester by the Sea was a good example. He has a clear want: to move on from his traumatic past, which he thinks he’ll achieve only in solitude. What stands in his way is actually his need in achieving his want: having to finish raising his nephew. It ties in perfectly with your final statement in this video. “What we need might be right in front of us and we don’t even realize it.” The distraction of a responsibility as high as raising a high school kid and the closeness of family could help him regain his sense of purpose. I don’t wanna spoil the ending for anyone who hasn’t seen it, but essentially, he finds a middle ground between his want and need, which I think makes for a pretty excellent and somewhat satisfying ending to a mostly depressing film.
    However off the top of my head, I can’t think of a movie with too much need and too little want.
    Overall, this video offers an incredible insight to what makes for good character writing.

    • @luciddreams7540
      @luciddreams7540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Completely agree. In Manchester, he just wanted to be left alone and bury the past, leaving his family behind to do so. His need was to face the past, moving on by embracing family once again.

    • @64ccd
      @64ccd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I see your point but am inclined to agree with Think Story. I think that the problem is that wanting to move on from the past isn't tangible enough, and as such borders on being a need. I think it could've been made clearer if his traumatic past was standing in the way of something else that he wanted. I don't know what it is Casey would rather be doing with his life if he weren't haunted by his past.

    • @berlinsb1
      @berlinsb1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. And for my Manchester by the Sea really worked in every way. I was hooked and deeply moved.

    • @jakeblottenberger3699
      @jakeblottenberger3699 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Manchester by the Sea is the best example I have ever seen of a movie that is pure shit.

    • @fatmac1975
      @fatmac1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really like your analysis but I also think it can work even without the feeling of a “need”. I think that feeling of little aim and strong clear goal works in a story about overcoming the depression and trying to escape the past: you can feel like nothing is really happening and you’re just stuck in time

  • @MrReaperofDead
    @MrReaperofDead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You create strong characters by giving them strong emotions. A character seen losing his temper is gunna be known for his anger...But when the reader or audience sees a character that was once known for his anger be 'humbled' this instills an emotional response between them and your character. This is because instead of expecting them to be normally a certain way, a dynamic situation has changed them to respond differently. Plays do a good job at displaying how a protagonist can shift his personality over time as he ages through the story. Usually tragedies can show this too.

    • @MrReaperofDead
      @MrReaperofDead 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      With that being said, any emotion given to a character should at times be exaggerated, this makes them memorable. (Like a shy character acting extra shy for no reason, or a pompous character getting mad and becoming extra pompous after he was given a cheap receipt for his purchase.)
      That way if you plan on dynamically changing your character over time, there will be a stronger response from your readers and audience.
      Ex. Thr pompous man may be offended by a cheap receipt...But after seeing his friend being placed in a cheap shallow grave, he may be brought to tears and you'll see them humbled. Now the audience will generate a memorable emotion from that said character, and so on.

    • @shabeehhaider2553
      @shabeehhaider2553 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another great example is Guts from Berserk manga

  • @filmmakeranto
    @filmmakeranto 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I read John Truby but this essay gave a whole new level of information..
    You helped me a lot with my characterization for the Screenplay I'm working on.. Thank you

    • @ThinkStory
      @ThinkStory  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is excellent! And good luck with the screenplay!

  • @MarkowskyArt
    @MarkowskyArt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Truly excellent distillation of the difference between these two concepts. Been looking at lots of videos to help me clarify them and this one really nailed it! Well done! Looking forward to more!

  • @pyromaniac301
    @pyromaniac301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A silly movie to bring up but you kept mentioning childhood so.... Cars, the final scene kept popping into my head and I remember as a kid I was never upset about Lightning not winning the race and was more happy that he wasn't a douchebag anymore.

  • @lyndsaystval6752
    @lyndsaystval6752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great work guys. I've watched a ton of stuff about characters and this is right up there. Very clear and easily understood.

  • @manmarzi8935
    @manmarzi8935 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just what I wanted. Crisp information, easy to understand

  • @prove_it000
    @prove_it000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have never seen such a complex topic summed up so simply. you really know your stuff. thank you!

  • @tinguyen999
    @tinguyen999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Writing for assignments always stressed me out because I wouldn’t know where to take the story or conflict. Videos like these really help. Thanks, man.

  • @QuincyIQ
    @QuincyIQ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imma be honest. This video is a semesters worth of knowledge. I should know I just did a semester in screenwriting.

  • @Koliflower
    @Koliflower 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, and more importantly, a great lesson. This was so well structured and I found it very easy to see how each aspect of the two columns aligned with the previous ones. Thank you so much!

  • @kokichiyoursupremeleader.1713
    @kokichiyoursupremeleader.1713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:34 that’s so true and I feel that there are a lot of media that forgets that and you hardly even see any true noticeable internal conflict.
    But one thing you for to mention with that is that both are necessary and important.
    And usually with an internal conflict there’s an external and vise versa. (Doesn’t mean that the vise versa gives a good internal conflict to the external one)
    And another thing with that want is that people want to (normally fan work and mostly Gacha) do is give their character all these external conflicts and all these awful things that happened to them.
    I think an important trait for a writer is to know when it’s enough and adding something will make it too much.
    4:00 personally they’re both needs. You can’t write it without a basic understanding on what’s gonna happen. Therefore without even a little bit of an idea for plot. (You don’t even need to have it all planned out) you can’t develop on themes.
    4:06 this one is complete fact all the way. What makes something amazing is it’s heart.
    Teen titans and teen titans go.
    There are a lot of reasons why the original is better but one of the most important and possibly overlooked reason is the amount of heart that’s given into the original. You can see how well written the characters are you could see that there was a lot of thought in it
    They are making an original vs go but in all honesty is it really the original coming back.
    By the trailer it’s obvious it doesn’t have the heart that made the original the original.
    What Go seems to aim for is the nonsense and silliness, hoping this “fun” aspect will appeal to kids. And the thing is it can be fun and silly but it needs to have heart and meaning.

  • @james4727
    @james4727 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    just found your channel, very insightful, i have been researching storycraft and movies for personal interest for a year or so and these vids are perhaps the most concisely put and insightful breakdowns of story.

  • @cryptomancer2927
    @cryptomancer2927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best explanation of Want vs. Need I have ever heard. Thank you!

  • @SergioOsvaldoVA
    @SergioOsvaldoVA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video but I will also say that theme is equally important in stories and most of the times the characters both embrace and define the variants of the theme. LFTS did a brilliant video about it.

  • @stephanielikescake2501
    @stephanielikescake2501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wrote two pages of notes for my novel from this vid. Thank you for a very interesting and helpful explanation of this

  • @Sarah-fb1nm
    @Sarah-fb1nm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video so much, I don’t plan to write my first story anytime soon because I want to improve my art and storytelling in a lot of ways, but I feel like I just improved my character 100 percent, he may not be the best but I’m proud of it, thank you

  • @user-me5fh3yu1j
    @user-me5fh3yu1j 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was really helplful, especially explaining plot vs. theme in wants vs. needs, which I didn't understand before.

  • @braelinmichelus
    @braelinmichelus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this video! Very glad I found it. I'll never think of stories in the same way again. I'm an aspiring writer, and this video has seriously helped me in writing my characters. Thanks for making this video!

  • @moniquevamado
    @moniquevamado 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Good stuff. The comment about Manchester by the Sea is exactly how I felt watching it: great acting, and... ? Perplexed at it winning so many awards.

  • @audreystrother1163
    @audreystrother1163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think you just pinpointed the main issue with most films today. The protagonists usually have a strong want/desire and they attain that "want" by the end with little adversity or struggle. There's rarely ever a need that's present as well. Filmmakers want us to sympathize with the protagonist's external problems, yet they don't take the time to humanize those characters so the audience gives a crap if they succeed or fail. I also hate that there aren't real villains anymore. The villains in most postmodern movies are an idea, not a person. While this can be done well, it rarely is. But if a villain character does exist to embody an evil idea, it's often so cliche and on the nose that I can't take it seriously even when I'm supposed to. I want to see more villains that make you sort of agree with them, even though you know they're taking it too far.

  • @andrewdummett5141
    @andrewdummett5141 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:38 Such a great reference to 'The Room' amongst what has been a very insightful analysis of the importance of 'Wants' and 'Needs' in character development. Comparing the bad amongst the good here, made it very funny. Thank you.

  • @liunderground1899
    @liunderground1899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for clarifying the distinction between "want" and "need".

  • @leighbailey4386
    @leighbailey4386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you - your five key points of Want vs Need was just what I needed for that aha moment in planning my novel!

  • @skyleranimates1251
    @skyleranimates1251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video! Thank you so much for this it’s really helpful.

  • @Prene16
    @Prene16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I am in the middle of writing a book and i am struggling with a secondary character... Watching this video made me realize he lacks a "want"... He is so "supporting" to the main character he doesnt have his goal and thats making him an extra even tho he is very important in driving the plot.... I dont want anything and any characters to be there just to fill in a plot hole so i am stuck...

    • @el_tdg
      @el_tdg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You still writing?

  • @noxlupa2996
    @noxlupa2996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for the informative video :D I'll have to keep these in mind while developing my characters in the future.

  • @janelienert1670
    @janelienert1670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was very helpful. I'm in the process of writing a story and I learnt a lot thx to you :)

  • @aisyaica
    @aisyaica 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video. I learn a lot! Keep up the good work 👏👌

  • @DrCK-mn2tb
    @DrCK-mn2tb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautifully explained...We can identify our needs for our wants in our own life..Besides in storytelling....Thank you

  • @NewWayIndia
    @NewWayIndia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most clearly explained and well presented video on WANT Vs. NEED - Must watch all beginner story writers. Thanks for the upload.

  • @Fjuron
    @Fjuron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative and practical; thank you for sharing this!

  • @geministrial950
    @geministrial950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This. This is the kind of content i've been looking for.

  • @thevioletskull8158
    @thevioletskull8158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This really helped me and made me rethink things.

  • @EmmaParvin1320
    @EmmaParvin1320 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Your channel has really helped me in my writing process!

    • @ThinkStory
      @ThinkStory  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Emma. My channel has shifted away from more of the screenwriting stuff, but I do have a playlist with all my screenwriting videos to help :)

  • @thatoneidiotnamedme6990
    @thatoneidiotnamedme6990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that you use some of my favorite movies for the video!

  • @FlavioColombini
    @FlavioColombini 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you! This video is very well done! I loved it!

  • @willtobias5280
    @willtobias5280 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gonna have to watch this a few times, good stuff

  • @Micmoves
    @Micmoves 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with many other comments. Thank you for this insight. I hadn't thought of quite like this.

  • @spinittweeks3246
    @spinittweeks3246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Think it’s sad when people miss the want from Manchester by the Sea.
    It’s a late payoff but there is definitely still a want. The fact that the want is to avoid the need at all costs, makes it even more special. Beautiful story, well executed

  • @priscillajimenez27
    @priscillajimenez27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes so much sense now. It motivates me to write!

  • @jahanvigurjar5744
    @jahanvigurjar5744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't believe how much I learned from this single video......🤗😍

  • @IrashiAkane
    @IrashiAkane 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow thank you for this! You explained it so well.

  • @chvp4605
    @chvp4605 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That was great and super helpful,thank you!!💕🙌🏻✨

    • @ThinkStory
      @ThinkStory  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching :)

  • @lachlanhatfield2530
    @lachlanhatfield2530 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent video and fantastic channel, look forward to more content

    • @ThinkStory
      @ThinkStory  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot! Just getting started. Make sure to tell any writer/film friends to check it out :)

  • @jaizerocool
    @jaizerocool 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no words to describe how much I liked this video

  • @supahjadi8944
    @supahjadi8944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The need vs want theme is a theme within itself.

  • @baguettegott3409
    @baguettegott3409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's really no surprise that so many people see Frodo and Sam as... well, a bit gayer than Tolkien intended them to be. Their relationship fills the role of a romance subplot for our hero that we're familiar with. It doesn't come across as a "buddy"-story as much as the emotional core of the whole thing, it's tender and genuine and heartfelt. And no matter whether you view it as a beautiful friendship or something more than that, it's touching.

  • @KKati-th6bv
    @KKati-th6bv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing. Great explanation on the point. Wish you flows and inspiration for your writing

  • @geniusisland371
    @geniusisland371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful. I had my “💡” when you said OBSTACLES of WANT vs OBSTACLES of NEED.

  • @michaelboushra275
    @michaelboushra275 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video carries a new insight to me .. thank you

  • @supperpokemonsgo9720
    @supperpokemonsgo9720 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is a masterpiece that helped me plan my English project. Thanks!

  • @shobigapathmanathan6980
    @shobigapathmanathan6980 25 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    wonderful charcter selecting video

  • @NthabisengMosieane
    @NthabisengMosieane ปีที่แล้ว

    What an important video - Very well-researched and highly informative.

  • @andrewjohnston1564
    @andrewjohnston1564 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video makes me want to read Anatomy of Story more thoroughly. I will definitely watch this again as well.

  • @kaptenkladdkaka8769
    @kaptenkladdkaka8769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very insightful. As a writer, I'm thankful

  • @JuanSerradelaFuente
    @JuanSerradelaFuente 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted this video and half way through I realized I needed it

  • @bn3099
    @bn3099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is pretty complicated actually, I think if I watch a lot of times I'll understand lmao but good video man, very very useful especially for beginners in writing

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great analysis of want and need

  • @Salamaleikum80
    @Salamaleikum80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is actually very trivial knowledge in storytelling, the hardest part is to apply this and figure out how to make a charakter learn the moral imperative by setting up fitting ordeals.

    • @Mansplainer2099-jy8ps
      @Mansplainer2099-jy8ps 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Learn the moral imperative"? "Imperatives" are a myth, they never exist outside the imagination. There is nothing any organism "must" do. All life on this planet could have died out with the T-Rex or the dodo.
      Jeez, what egomaniacs humans are.

  • @TheDude-vx6wn
    @TheDude-vx6wn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing. Thank you for posting!

  • @shaeholden1743
    @shaeholden1743 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, very well explained.

  • @cheriewi7874
    @cheriewi7874 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks. This is so helpful 👍.

  • @teacherdowrich2028
    @teacherdowrich2028 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for this wonderful explanation.

  • @hanimoon1422
    @hanimoon1422 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, bruh 👍

  • @prehistorichero2755
    @prehistorichero2755 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This would help me improve my writing. Thanks!