Blastoise vs Feraligatr - Pokemon Crystal
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Hey everyone and welcome back to the latest installment of Scotts show "Both of these two pokemon can learn mud-slap but Gligar can not!".
Glad this is still a running theme in the comments section. Thanks, Oathkeeper Keyblade!
No, but seriously, I never understood why it was never able to learn that. It's just as asinine as Aerodactyl not knowing Rock Slide.
I was sad to not see that show return on the Charizard and Typhlosion video despite the fact that it applies there. Still though, love that it’s here.
Are you the new Denis or something?
@Charles Segale Aerodactyl does get Rock Slide in gen 3. Lance's Aerodactyl is a cheat by itself with Dragonite
@Duskstar89 Correct. I only brought it up because this was Generation 2 and Lance's Aerodactyl is a Cheating McCheaterson. :p
I think the reason Emboar got so much hate was because he was the 3rd Fire/Fighting starter in a row(Blaziken then Infernape). It was more a fatigue issue than a design one. Great, now I wanna do an Emboar run...
Yeah I think everyone was hoping it be fire dark. But that was inceneroar?
Nah, it gets hate because its design is atrocious
I like his design, he was my starter in gen5
@@rainogh6440 to each their own i guess. Scott mentioned he doesn't and never did like the Blastoise design, which i would argue it's one of the best in the series.
I mean the design was also a bit of a shrug. It's okay... but also we had multiple bipedal fire-fighting starters in a row and it was getting old. Hell, every fire-fighting starter eventually became bipedal up till generation 9! That's... honestly weird.
Ypu know, I think we could make a decent "which mon is most fun to play" tier list by ranking mons by the ratio of the time their playthrough is on screen to their play times.
I should do a stream and re-rank the mons based on how much I enjoyed the playthrough. Because some that are near the bottom were fun! I'm thinking of Smeargle, which was so fun to figure out and it felt really good when compared with its base stats.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon seel last spot
I actually knew about Mind Reader/Lock-On allowing you to hit Pokemon using Fly/Dig, because that was specifically taught in the Academy in Pokemon Stadium 2, with an entire trial battle focused on hitting Pokemon using Fly/Dig.
Pokemon Stadium 2 was so good for having that Academy. It was chock full of info that was hard to find online at the time. It was also how I first learned about STAB.
Oh that's fun!
The Academy in PS2 also mentions RBY's "Normal type Pokemon can't be paralyzed by Body Slam" thing.
In the lecture "Residual-effect changes" in the "Moves" section of the Trainer class course:
"In the past, if a target Pokemon's type was identical to an attack move's type, the attack move's added effect would never work. The Gold and Silver versions have changed things a bit.
"Now, even if the defending Pokemon's type is identical to the attack move's type, the added effect may or may not work.
"That means that the Electric type Electabuzz could become paralyzed by Spark, an Electric type attack.
"There are still some exceptions... Attacking a Poison type Pokemon with a Poison type move will not poison it! In the same manner, an Ice type Pokemon cannot easily be frozen by an Ice type move! A Fire type attack won't easily burn a Fire type Pokemon!
"Pokemon are not affected as often by status problems that match their own types. Other than those exceptions, the added effects of moves will affect all Pokemon, even if attack and defender's type match."
@@paulnewton2284 that’s so cool
At the end of the day it feels like it came down to feraligator having stronger return and therefore better damage ranges, makes sense why he's the #1
He's my favorite/first Pokemon I ever used. I was so happy he pulled it off.
@@OmegaScorpio96 My fave starter for sure, Totodile is just too adorbs
Big thing is that Scott rarely needed to rely on physical bulk which is Blastoise's advantage, while the attack difference really helped with both Earthquake and Return.
I just love how each pair ends up ranked with exactly one Pokemon between them. Heck of a mini-series!
@Scott's Thoughts - Being able to get a time like that with no hidden power i think deserves something to show that fact (metric). Can i suggest putting a star or using the shiny sprite on the tier list for Pokemon that don't use hidden power? i really think that its important to some how show that fact in the rankings.
I second this!
I am new to this channel? Why is hidden power not being used so "special"?
@@RK-cj4oc The short answer is that it gives any Pokemon access to a base 70 Power, 100 Accuracy move of a specific type that it otherwise would never get access to. For example, if you watch the Meganium vs Venasaur run, Scott manipulates Hidden Power to be of Rock type in order to give them coverage vs Fire/Flying type Pokemon that they otherwise have no good answer for with their learnset/TM choices.
@@RK-cj4oc Since it can be set to any Type(Fire,Water Grass, Ect...) it solves alot of problems for pokemon. so a grass type can have it set to water or ice type to deal with problem battles.
My favourite part of this video will inevitably be when Feraligatr says "It's gator time" and proceeds to beat Karen and Red without any resets
He's going to Morb so hard
Morbidly obeast
I only know of that reference because of the meme and I only remember it because of the Fubuki and Leto interview.
@@TheLeviathan1293 but do you know about 🙂
This was a really awesome versus series! Like I figured it would definitely be close for Feraligatr vs Blastoise, but it was like really really close! I wonder in the future for Emerald, we see 3-way versus videos for each of the starter types?
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That might be a bit much for him to do in one video
@@ruthlesace remember the eeveelution one? Similar to that, although Emerald is a longer game than yellow.
These videos are always a key part of my Saturdays to watch comfortably on my couch with a nice drink and snack
This is actually a seriously underrated thumbnail. You know what. I love it.
I really think feraligatr should have been given the dark type. It looks like a dark type. It was the new type in the game.
Yeah, it would be fitting as a dark type, especially cause it learns Bite
Yeah and Typhlosion should had been Ground.
Meganium should be fairy. Make the worst starter a little more viable
"Vileplume is the only grass type in the E4"
- sad Exeggutor noises
In Meganium’s defence, it had the lowest level compared to all the others, which is a decent consolation prize.
This has been an interesting series to watch. My favoured starters for the Gen 1 and 2 won their races (Venusaur and Typhlosion respectively). I might need to look into the water types a bit more and see if I can do a good general play through with them. I might have done a Squirtle run-through long ago and far away, so need to revisit.
Putting a request to re-do Pokémon Yellow with Persian, Starmie and Kadabra. They are some of my favourites and are in my party often. Cheers! Keep up the excellent work!
I don't think Meganium did badly, for a grass type it did quite well imo.
Scott - I have absolutely loved the trio of Gen 1 / Gen 2 Starters Versus Series. I have watched each of them 3 or more times. I think you did great in each of the runs, but I was particularly impressed with Feraligatr's Optimized Play-through. That was such a sick time. My favorite video of the 3 is definitely the Fire Starter video. You killed Typholusion's run as well, but the best part of that video was how much you managed to improve Charizard's Optimized Play-through - compared to its first run. These were some of your best work - if not your outright best work IMO.
Hell yes, feraligatr is my favorite water type. Great end result :)
Today was a hard day at work so i was so happy to come home and watch this.
Sorry to hear about the hard day at work. I hope the video was an enjoyable escape!
I'm happy to see Blastoise perform well because I love the Squirtle line. I suspected it would get beat out for the best time, so I'm glad I actually got a prediction right 😅
"There's only one Grass-type in the League."
*Will's Exeggutor huddles in the corner and tries to stifle its audible sobs.*
My two favorite starters in my favorite region of Pokemon with the revelation that three of my favorite Pokemon in the gen are at the top. Perfection.
The Gligar economy stocks are dropping once more
Thank you for doing this. I kind of figured Feraligatr was gonna be the best, Blastoise I felt was gonna beat the original starters cus of the orginal Pokemon game, but I expected the best from Feraligatr because I've seen speed runs and as far as I know they always choose Totodile as their starter. It was fun to see this, haha tho nowadays in todays remakes I'm sure Feraligatr would still be solid but I have a feeling Blastoise would probably get closer to last place. 😂
Blastoise: Hah, he's gonna go for dynamic punch! I'm gonna dig underground.
Poliwrath: I've read your mind, now eat this *dynamic punches the ground*
Wow,both of them had some incredible results, I was betting on Feraligatr ,but I'd never thought that would have the best time in gen 2 thus far.😊
Feraligatr was my first starter in crystal, so this run was kind of reminded me of how it was dominating the gen 2 games. I wonder if it could do that in firered or in emerald as well, without relying on ice punch basically.🤔 Maybe you should do a rematch with these in firered ,that could be an interesting concept to try out.
Blastoise and Feraligatr could do it without hidden power , which amazing in its own right,and basically the access to a ground move and to an early ice move made these two unstoppable. I think that using dig to counter Miltank's rollout could have been a safer strat for some Pokémon especially if they are not as fast as Miltank is .😊
Other than that, these last three videos were really on point when it comes to the editing and the visual details. Well done 🫡☺️
"Typhlosion edging Charizard" is not a line I ever expected to hear
I've missed your uploads since Ampharos but I'm glad I tuned in for this one, becauee WOW those final times are amazing! I like both of these starters and I'll be watching the other two vs videos as well, as this is exactly what I was waiting to see. Physical attacking usually means it won't do as well as a special attacker, but Feraligatr really proves that wrong today. What a great video!
Amazing video, as per usual, scott!
Would you ever consider doing a legendary birds vs legendary beasts series? Would love to see how they stack up against each other!
Went through your catalog and didn't seem these combinations so thought I'd mention them:
Poliwrath v. Politoed
Slowbro v. Slowking
Macargo v. Torkoal (emerald)
Quagsire v. Octillery
Love your channel. It is very relaxing and nostalgic
Good ideas. Two of them them I have intentions of doing in the future. Might add Quagsire to the list.
1:24 I think the most important thing keeping Charizard close to Typhlosion in terms of time was the fact he learns Flamethrower at level 34 while Typhlosion has to wait until 60. I lost count of how many times I solo’d Silver with Ty, and that always bugs me even today.
Edit: Love your videos, by the way. Even my kids watch them with me sometimes.
You mentioned there only being one grass type in the league: Karen's Vileplume
Another is Exeggutor but since Blastoise one hits it, I don't think forgetting to mention it is that big of a deal 😅
Wow, these mons are units. Can't believe how quickly they smashed through the game.
I've noticed that the gyms throughout the series have interesting placements.
Diglet Tunnel near Vermillion
Two caves around Azalea
Cinnabar is an island
"Grassy" patches near Cerulean
Just on top of my head from the first two gens alone
It's a pretty nice way to make sure players always have options if they get stuck on a particular obstacle.
If you want more examples from Gen 8, which I have played extensively:
-A multitude of Flying, Bug, and Poison Pokémon on the routes between Motostoke and Turffield in advance of Milo and his Grass gym
-For Nessa's Water types, Milo gives you the Magical Leaf TM, the Electroweb TM is right next to where you meet Nessa before you can challenge her gym, there's a static Eldegoss encounter on the Route 5 bridge and an in-game trade for a Cottonee in the market where you can also buy incense, including Rose Incense.
-The game specifically draws attention to the fact that Galar Mine 2 is full of Water types that help against Kabu, and you can also find a couple of Ground types there as well as Sudowoodo in the Motostoke Outskirts.
-I have Shield so I can't say too much about Bea, but you get Ghost types on Route 6, an in-game trade for a Hattena in Stow-on-Side itself, and access to enough of Glimwood Tangle to access its Psychic and Fairy types. Plus, Kabu's Will O Wisp TM can help against her predominantly physical team.
-Allister is actually a bit sparser on this front, but there are still the Ghosts, and the same person who gives you Hattena in Sword gives you Impidimp in Shield.
-They give you so many options for the Circhester gym on Route 8. Ground types for Gordie, Rock types for Melanie, Fighting and Steel types for both, and a TM for Brick Break just off to the side, especially handy for countering Melanie's Lapras.
Speaking of Brick Break, that TM is also found in Verdant Cavern in the Alola games, which you can obtain during the trial. I got Moon and Ultra Moon, so while I can't say exactly how much it helps against Gumshoos, I can tell you that it completely trivializes Raticate.
my favorite poketuber strikes again and imo the best poketuber on platform i really wish i could meet u one day shake your hand give u a hug and thank u... u just seem so chill and awesome the way u talk is so down to earth don't be afraid to use to cuss words either alot of us our age prefer it
I intentionally avoid cuss words because I know some people our age who watch these videos with their kids. Want to make sure that it's a family friendly show, even if it isn't targeted at younger audiences.
Feraligatr my favorite Pokémon from day one. Love to see it!
"Dog" -everywhere in Elden Ring, where one can find a turtle
Gold was my first mainline Pokemon game and I instantly fell in love with the feraligatr line. He really is a bit too easy maybe, but it makes him a great introduction to the game if you're a tiny baby person.
Great series Scott, you're really finding your stride. Also Shout-out to the editors! These videos are so well polished!
Ahh I really needed this video to release today for night time anxiety reasons, thanks
You're welcome Sato. Sorry to hear about the anxiety.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon All good, it's normal stuff for me when in bed at night! Passing out watching these long runs has been helping for the past month or so.
When you mentioned the Ice path being the game telling you to catch an ice type before Clair that's actually something that I did as a kid. I got stuck on her quite a few times since dragons resisted some of my strongest pokemon and the combination of all her pokemon did super effective damage to most of my team. As a result, I started catch Jynx often just for this gym since I didn't want to drop any of my beloved pokemon long term. She learns ice punch at level 25 which was only a few levels after you caught her so it worked out really well.
Wasn't expecting the video to become twice as nice in such a short turnaround~
Thoughts on this run: Water is a good consistent type that's never bad in a Pokemon game.
Especially when Surf is earlier to get in Gen 1 and 2. Since then, Surf is now in the midgame territory where you need Surf to progress except for Kalos, where you get Surf after beating the 3rd Gym Leader.
Water types in Johto, while not as advantageous as the Fire types, are still very good. There's not a lot threatening Grass types other than Bayleaf in the earlygame, Vileplume and Venusaur in the lategame. And, it's only the Magnemite line for Electric types with average Special Defense when you have access to Surf when you get to Ecruteak City. They have Return for good Physical damage. And, even without Ice Punch, Icy Wind gets the job done for the ones who get Icy Wind instead of Ice Punch. After that, you have Ice Beam for Venusaur at the end.
Feraligatr really did get one of the fastest times ever. The fact that it beats Lugia really tells me that Mewtwo might be the only one who can beat Feraligatr's time. And even then, I don't think that's gonna be a possibility, given that Mewtwo is leveling up slowly. And, it now has problems with not only Karen, but also Snorlax with that massively buffed Special Defense. It may have higher Attack than Feraligatr for non STAB Returns, but the Slow growth rate might be enough to hold it back from beating Feraligatr. Plus, if Mewtwo wants to use a Fighting move to deal with Karen and Snorlax, you either use HP Fighting, which gives out horrendous DVs, or Dynamic Punch, which is obviously worse than Hypnosis.
As for Blastoise, pretty good. Blastoise is excellent in Fire Red and Leaf Green speedruns. Blastoise in Gen 1 Speedruns is not too shabby if you are not gonna be cheesing with Nidoking. For a defensive tank like Blastoise, it did very well. Being a Water type is far better defensively than being a Grass type like Meganium. Plus, having good and diverse coverage in the attacking department really helps.
Mewtwo is probably going to be the fastest. But I think the slow-growth rate may hold it back from setting a new standard of performance like sub 1:10
I would love to see Gyarados in Crystal now, would be a Challenge in the first playthrough without HP Ground for sure :)
I gotta say, I really really like the execution on this starter vs series! Comparing the starters to their respective type counterpart was really interesting, considering how close each matchup ended up being. I’m also excited to see how the unevolved starters perform in Yellow!
Glad you liked it! I think I'm going to port the gen2 starters back into gen1 and do it again in Yellow to re-rank those starters.
Blastoise has always and will always be my favorite Pokémon it was my very first starter vack in h days of rad and blue it has cannons how can you not love that
BLASTIOSE is my favorite starter evolution overall. Love it. Torterra is my favorite to battle with however.
Charmander is my favorite starter.
WOO, I love the Totodile line, debatably my favorite from the entire series but I expected it to lose out because his STAB was weaker so he could miss some neutral hits but happy to be wrong.
I absolutely love the water starters throughout the Pokémon games, generation 1 and 2 are no exception. Feraligator is by far my favorite between it and Blastoise. Hopefully my boy Chomper does well!
Looking at this more, I think having native access to Ice Punch or Ice Beam is a good indicator of a pokemon's ability to succeed in gen 2. They trivialize Lance who can be a roadblock and mean you don't need to use Hidden Power for it. And generally if you have native access to a decent ice move, you also have access to water moves because those two tend to go together and if _that's_ the case then you don't really need to fear Jasmine either since the Magnemites aren't very tough and the Steelix is weak to water and has abysmal special defense. And of course it makes the Charizards and Arcanine trivial through the late game too.
Yes! That is a really good point. Access to ice moves frees up hidden power.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Yup. Sure it won't help _every_ pokemon; if a hypothetical Poke has 25 base Sp Attack and 90 Attack you're still probably better off with Return or something even if you can learn Ice Beam, but I think as a general rule of thumb it works, and certainly in Gen 2 there really aren't pokemon like that afaik.
And yeah with HP freed up you can go for Electric to deal with troublesome water types like late game Blastoise and Gyarados, or whatever else you need. Of course, a lot of pokemon with native access to ice moves are also at least part Water, which means resisting water moves which makes those mons less of a threat too. So maybe even something else like HP Fighting for Karen's Umbreon and Red's Snorlax.
It's just one of those quirks of the generation, caused by certain key trainers and the common attributes of pokemon with access to moves that excel against them.
Grass i "rooted" for Venusaur. Fire i was hoping Typhlosion would "scorch" the competition. I love both these starters so honestly im happy with either of them winning so im gonna have to "wave" my pick
Feraligatr also has Bite....and the flinch rate.....is phenomenal.
Spikes are the only hazard in gen 2, so rapid spin is very good to have, but not a hard requirement like it was after stealth rock was introduced
iirc
Idk who to root for. On one hand we have the guy who cracks the top 3 all time list for gen 1 starters, on the other, we have the nasty but thicc final form of my favorite mon.
Fun fact: bite is the only move to change damage types twice. From physical to special from gen 1 to gen 2 and back to physical later
So you went unga-bunga-super-effective on Morty with Blastoise :). (ChaoticMeatball reference)
I was going to mention this before but rapid spinners have been a staple in all aspects of VGC and Singles due to how common hazards are. Usually a team with have one or two Pokémon dedicated to spinning and hazard setting respectively. This also gives utility to lower power pokemon such as misdreavus and gastly who would otherwise have no use other than being a spin blocker.
I love the Water starters of early gens. Carrying me across water with a strong STAB since 1998
oh my wow, I didn't see that coming, fair enough that is exactly how well I thought Blastoise would do, your Yellow run showed us the way with how good it could be, but Feraligatr just straight up blasted through the game and Lugia and out of the top spot, you're gonna have to run Mewtwo to top that, I loved this VS series, what you gonna do next, Gen 1 VS Gen 3 starters in Fire Red, how about Racihu vs Light Ball Pikachu?
Just saw the first run...I was NOT expecting them to be *THAT* close!
Hey! I really like your videos but I have one small advise. Maybe you could tune the background music a bit lower. I don't know but I noticed often that It's kinda stressing me out while you are talking :D keep going, I dig you videos!
And thus the starters are complete. This was a fun ride, great work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The additional ice coverage is just so good for water types, especially in a solo run context. I think this will always make a good water type like the starters a top contender. The other two starter types can sadly not compete with that in most cases but that might change (and already did in emerald for now) with future games and better movepools across the board.
Hey Scott.
I saw you donated an egg to Chaotic Meatball. I knew it was a Venomoth before it hatched. 😂
Hehehe
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Have you any other collaborations in the pipeline?
The first time I saw totodile I knew I saw greatness. He just didn't dance like the one ash had.
Cannot wait to see Scott get around to alakazam in Crystal
Great video Scott, this series of vs videos was amazing.
Blastoise eventually becomes a Shell Smash sweeper so these results are fine
I would like to see Feraligatr VS Gyarados, their stats AND movepool are so similar
Basically bite, ice fang, surf, waterfall, headbutt
Feeling very proud of my favorite starter right now
8:28 didn't realize they recruited children to the rocket league
Wow. Can’t believe that blastoise 1 hit the 4x resisted dragon grass venomoth with surf!
Great vid Scott! Why no HiddenPower Fighting for Snorlax? Keep up the vids mate!
HP Fighting has very bad DVs.
I was little taken aback by your words about Blastoise being the worst design of all 6 starters. 😤😤
I always played Feraligatr in G/S/C. My favourite. With the exception I used slash as main killer move. High level gives you enough damage to easily break through opps.
Using bite instead of water gun in the beginning would have been a good idea to get a flinch here and there
I always knew feraligatr was the best. ❤
All the runs have been so close rng and player movement skill is enough to be a difference.
Its impressive especially for the starters that are more different that the design kept them all so close
I love Emboar! I use to like Samurott more when i was younger but now i love emboar. Hes such a strong and huggable looking guy! When i get a shiny one imma name it Gannonpork.
My two favourite Pokemon stomping the whole game at breakneck pace with no resets? It's like Christmas in July!
In June!
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glad to see my boy feraligatr perform well. since what you are doing is similar to speedrunning the games, have you ever considered actually doing a speedrun(of any gen) with current strats? could be something for streamer scott to do.
Yeah, I'd like to learn to speedrun Yellow at some point
Yaaaaaay another thought from my man Scott!
It's wild to think over the 6 starter Pokemon in an optimised run there has only been 2 resets and their both Meganuim
I love Blastoise ._. It's in my Top 20, maybe 10, of all Pokemon.^^ Nostalgia obviously. But yeah, it's great.
It’s interesting that the final level reverses the Game Time needed. Meganium has the worst time but the lowest level.
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Waaaaaaait a minute... Watch the arrow in the lower right hand corner of the screen when it pops up... How long did it take you guys to synch that up?! That's such a minute detail... I love it ! XD
Whenever I play this games I newer use water moves on poliwrath cause I remember it has water absorb
Did Scott forget about Will's Exeggutor in the E4? Cause that is also a grass type
Pretty sure these are gonna be quite similar. I think Feraligatr is gonna have a slight advantage, as he starts with water gun whereas Blastoise only has Bubble. Also Feraligatr has more attack which could help. Overall I think both are gonna be fantastic. I don't really see any particular threats to them. I'm really curious about Hidden Power, because they have Ice Punch and Mudslap/Dig/Earthquake. With Ice and Ground being irrelevant, which type is gonna be the best ? Probably none, Surf - Ice Punch/Beam - Headbutt /Return - Dig/EQ and maybe Rest will be the moveset. Bite maybe for Morty and Skip Dig ? idk
They will be better than the grass starters. Not fully confident they can beat the fire starters but if I had to guess, I'd say they both gonna be faster than Typhlosion, maybe even faster than Lugia ?
Let's find out !
Surprised you didn't mention HM friends when discussing your use of Abra :).
My Boy on the first place is a suprise, but a welcome one :)
since you said you don't know- rapid spin is/was amazing for gen 2 competitive play, it's what put Fortress and Golem in OU tier, while greatly boosting the usability of Starmie, Tentacruel and Cloyster
When i first meet this game, my older brother used go play this game while i watching him. He chooses totodile and fight the rival for the first time
In cases like the one where you froze the shiny gyrados you could catch it to use as your waterfall user and skip the dratini, but that probably wouldn't change things as far as saving more than a few seconds.
C'mon Blastoise, _only_ third place in the tier list? What an embarrassing loss. /s
Regarding the jitmons: I'd say base 110 special defense is better than decent. It's higher than blastoise's base 105. Their actual issue is their low HP, which is base 50, on par with many first form mons. All of them have lower defense than special defense for reasons I can't even begin to fathom, especially since Hitmontop's base 95 is better than Himonchan's 79 despite Tyrogue becoming Hitmonchan when it has higher defense.
Love watching these videos!!
One thing that's unfair when it comes to using level as a metric; due to xp groups, the starters probably couldn't even possibly reach red at the same level as Lugia. A more fair metric would be number of battles but that's kinda bothersome to so.
Now I kinda want to see a video where you try Gen 1/2 competitive. And have you considered back porting mons into Gen 2? With how interesting your back pots from Gen 1 to 2 are, putting something like Mismagius, Mamoswine, etc from Gen 4 into the original Gen 2 should be even more interesting.
Yeah, I'll do gen2 portbacks eventually
Wow you can really get that one pokemon you speed run with to high level pretty quick also considering gen 2 gold, silver and crystal are probably the slowest games to reach level 100 with not only because of how slow they can eventually get at higher level hp bars but also cause the strongest pokemon you train with other than red is level 50 dragonite and level 50 trainer cal.
Wow that were some amazing runs. Now I‘m kinda curious how a pikachu with the light ball item would perform in crystal.
After having no idea which starter would win the last 2 runs... I'm guessing Blastoise. Stab Surf carries and Blastoise does it better. Maybe Feraligatr can clean up with powerful Returns though?
huh, i wonder if getting put to sleep while underground with that mind reader interaction causes any glitchy shenanigans.