I like this story much because it actually started with Venti going back and forth to Liyue to drink with Zhongli and then the other archons noticed this and was like "Why aren't we invited?" To Venti and Zhongli LMAO, That's when the archon gathering started in Liyue
And it will happen again as the traveler continues to offer companionship to all the Archons. I've already started preparing my Serenitea Pot for that moment by redecorating it to the theme of 7 Archons (+ Paimon and Traveler) having a festival together.
I think one of Nahida's voice lines was about meeting the other archons at some point and getting them all together again. Where she said that she might suggest to them to play hopscotch, but she then withdrew the idea because the lines that she would draw would be too small and it would be unfair for the other archons, making it seem like she made them small on purpose just to win.
@@zanaquack8179What do you mean? It's literally in the first sentence we hear Venti say when he talks to Dvalin near Mondstadt. Granted, he doesn't name the specific timespan, but he straight up said "It's alright now, I'm back". And later on, but still in the Prologue, he says how weak he is, because he was gone so long.
Venti : stop acting like I am also dead to Zhongli: Even that drunk half naked femboy bard Venti: like you was Well dressed whilr your whole ABS open, you broke old man
@@justgado2772 Zhongli actually said that the first time we met him, I remember him telling something like 'there was a friend of mine from Mondstat who would bring some wine to share whenever he visited' implying how he misses his visits
This sounds like a tremendous roast, but I think both of them would realize that being the one left behind IS the tragedy. Kind of joking about their own grief.
But as per timeline : Ei existed with Makoto so, she was not the original archon but she may have attended the gathering of the seven. Just me blabbering stuff
@harryshade5700 "She didn't sit at the table". That's not true. She said it herself in her lines she feasted with the gods along with Makoto. Your last line is another assumption.
To further confuse you all, since by the end of Sumeru's arc Rukkhadevata's existence has been wiped for good, that leaves Nahida as the "only" Dendro archon. By default, this should mean that Zhongli's memories have been rewritten as such that Nahida was always the one present in these gatherings, even if with another body. So that makes both Ei and Nahida good candidates to still be "those who share the memory". So technically, there are still 4 out of the 7 who share the memory. Read too much into it? Maybe.
@@Preaplanesnope. Zhongli still knows that 2 archons remain despite Irminshul replacing Nahida. So for him Rukkhadevata is original archon of 7. Means - Zhongli is descender maybe x)
I love the archons like idk why hearing Zhongli say 'where are those who share the memories' and Venti being the only other surviving one is just so nostalgic why
This actually makes a lot more sense. Just feel a little sad, as it seems like Zonghil really enjoyed spending time with the other archons. I felt like Makoto, made it into a huge priority because, it’s been shown a lot how important it was to her. Nahida, overtime has turned into a small fragile but powerful archon. I’m not for sure about the other archons but just a little sad knowing that most of them either died or where replaced.
I gotta say Hoyoverse has been really creative with how the archons got replaced. I expected it to be like "i had a child so it became the new archon" but until now, they somehow found a way to not make it like that and its amazing
@@lostforever773idk how to interpret this, but we know 4 of the original 7 archons, those being Rex Lapis, Barbados, Makoto and Greater Lord Rukkhadevata. The ones we aren't familiar so far are the previous hydro, Pyro and cryo archons.
that’s actually so heartwarming bc he’s always clowning on venti for drinking too much wine but in the end he still misses those good old days. with venti being his only long term companion left there’s obviously still a soft spot for the both of them. now i won’t mind hearing that like every 2 minutes 😂
Not to mention that his character story 5 is mainly talking about his friendship with venti. That's why it kinda annoys me when the fandom just took his voiceline about venti in face value and go "haha zhongli hates venti so much." 🙄 "Even the hardest rocks may be worn down after three thousand years. Nor would the wind ever return (to his side) again." These lines give me an impression that venti's disappearance 500 years ago was zhongli's final straw.
Venti's disappearance wouldn't really fit since he already went sleep mode many times before (Venti woke up after 1000 years of sleep when Venessa's story unfolded) and Zhongli was never alarmed by his disappearance (unless Zhongli thought Venti died from Durin's poisoning, which would be weird because a natural calamity is bound to happen whenever a god dies, so imagine the super cyclone if the Archon of Wind were to die...)
@joyhammer3148 exactly. Venti always went to sleep when everything was okay. But he disappeared 500 years ago right after the cataclysm happened, so zhongli might think he was the only one left at some point. Though maybe later, he realized that venti was still alive, because no natural disaster happened and no new anemo archon was raised to divinity. Still, the word "nor would the wind ever return to his side again" after telling us that barbatos often came to liyue to meet him just makes me think things.
I actually knew it when he said that....but this just made it better....cuz the line where he said those who shared the memories means he's reminiscent about the past which is deep...😢
I think Zhongli hates his immortality he has. Imagine being older than all the 7, and living longer then them... Eventually he will have to say goodbye to Hu tao... I honestly think Zhongli will sacrifice himself in Genshin story which is why he retired. He is alive and is able to give small pushes to help Liyue, but think about it like this... Zhongli was the first Archon, followed by the pyro Archon. Zhongli has lost so many adeptus family, his Archon family and who knows what kind of family he had before arriving in tevat... People like to say Ei lost more but that just isn't true. Ei is significantly younger than Zhongli and Venti but especially Zhongli. Chances are Zhongli was extremely close to Baal (Ei's sister) when she passed. Zhongli is one of my favorite characters in the game, and people often misunderstood why he tested Liyue. They also think he was manipulated by the Fatui which it doesn't take much thinking to realize he didn't. Zhongli as much as it pains me, i believe will die before the end of the story. The oldest person we know (could be as old as the dragons) passing away. Liyue is the city of change, so it would fit the story of Liyue. Zhongli earnes his retirement more than anyone in tevat.
Zhongli is not immortal he even explained to the traveller that he is telling him about the history of liyue so that once he dies there's someone that is aware of the history and will share it to future generations
People who misunderstood his intentions just don't read the story well and skips it. He tested them because he will be stepping down as the archon of Liyue. *blablabla* (everything is already said in the quest). Also, no one can control a literal god. Zhongli just followed the Celestia's path because he probably wanted to protect Liyue from becoming one of the casualties. So it would be obvious that Zhongli probably supports the Tsaritsa, and just tried to get a deal about his people not needing him anymore or being independent, especially the adepti. Zhongli is probably tired of seeing many dead bodies. From before the Archon War to the Cataclysm, and even after it. So he is retiring also because of it. Maybe, also, to be ready with the possible War versus Celestia. Even the drunbard knows how to act weak, Zhongli will probably be in front later on as he is the shielder. And maybe, Venti will be the only original left after the war. It's just a theory but it may be possible. ~~~~~~~ Old Zhongli needs to rest already and find his inner peace.
@@rohamebrahimi7844 Yeah, they are just immortal in a sense that they have high numbers of vitality. They won't be old in body and die of old age. They don't have the true immortality that gods has. Even those gods can die if their concepts disappears or is devoured by another. Oops! Looks like we are going to Star Rail already and is combining the Aeons. But yeah, "both universe" have similarities as all others have.
Then it feels even better to remember how Venti and Zhongli acted during their two events together. Friends that no matter how long they last saw each other, they still act friendly towards each other.
it must've been so awkward for egeria being the only one that was known to be on the naughty list of Celestia at that time. like when they're drunk they'd say shit about each other and they'll mention like "Egeria u dumbass u coulda just asked permission to make people first, now ur nations gonna dissolve lmao."
His voice line about the Archons changed as well since Rukkadevata was erased from Irminsul. However he still mentions that only two of they original seven remain in seats of power. I’m not sure if it’s possible he is immune to Irminsul’s changes. Some theorize he is a shade.
@@mrburpmud more like former huuuge lore digger. I study archeology, so I've always been fascinated by the fact that Genshin's lore digging really resembles the reconstitution of events methods we use in archeology (like compiling hearsays, stories from the past, clues in architectural vestiges, etc...) to make guesses, theories or confirm things that happened in the past (archeological research is actually 80% guessing and theorizing and 20% hoping labs analyses will confirm our theories 😂). That's what hooked me to the game. I've discovered Wei's vids (and later Ashikai's) way after stopping lore digging. So I actually watch them to confirm that I'm not the only one thinking about certain things or to stay updated about new countries lore.
@@joyhammer3148fyi, its the same for all the games. The extensive, time consuming & theorizing nature of lore digging means entire communities need to be erected just to catalogue the discoveries but also to coordinate the analytical process & evaluate evidence (the internet is useful in this if u know how to use it which generations prior to the zopmer happen to be (no seriously, study tech illteracy in youth, its interesting)). The later component theorizing nature plays into the time consuming & extensive nature of the work as the average man may not have the time & dedication to not only do all of the prior steps (they are playing for fun & escapism, realism & tediness are the last things they want) but also to take it to it's conclusion by sitting to evaluate every bit of information, drawing relationships between them & theorizing, another reason for the neccessity of emergent dedicated communities & persons. Those who choose this path push the bounds of the subject with their work with this which may lead one into reading in between the lines too often & coming up with rather out there theories but those end up being the most contentious parts of history which fade into obscurity.
I wonder if Zhongli has some guilt within him. Maybe he saw the previous Cryo Archon die while he fighting beside him in Khaenriah and thats why he wanted to help the Tsaritsa because he feels responsible for his death. Remember that after the Cataclysm ended and Zhongli returned to Liyue he just stood still flying above the Chasm and didnt uetter a single word. Zhongli doesnt express heavy emotion the only other time he truly felt grief was when Azhdaha and Guizhong died. I feel like Zhongli is a really end game character unlike the other Archons
@@adbori7854that's his "Story 5". "As time passed, many of The Seven's titles changed hands, and only two remain of the first Seven: Rex Lapis and the Anemo Archon." changed to "As time passed, many of The Seven's titles changed hands, and only two of the first Seven remain in position of rulership: Rex Lapis and the Anemo Archon."
Zhongli:where are those who share the memories? Venti:Im right here Zhongli:I thought you'd be too drunk to remember barbados Venti:how could you think so lowly of me Morax? Zhongli:cause you're pretty Venti:you can't make up by complementing me
Also he is aware of tevyat changing it's history maybe he is hinting us from the beginning that people gets erased from tevyat and the passage of time also killed some of his friends
This is why I keep saying just go to Mondstat you will find the one that shares the memory or wait and he will come to you cuz God knows he's mr worldwide
Can't blame those who thought its about the adepti given his loss of them was mentioned in archon quests and story quest. The gathering of the archons is only in his voice/story lines. Not everyone does read/listen to them.
I do want to note though only 2 of the original remain, Ei was around when Makoto was still around too. She just wasn’t in position, so she can also probably remember them. Also apparently her voiceline about Venti mentions he was the one who drank the most in the past
I always said "THEY'RE DEAD." when zhongli said that because I thought he meant his adepti friends like Guizhong ☠️ BUT it fits too for the archons (makoto and rukkhedevata)
And as of now, this is even deeper. Since it’s theorized that Zhongli is a Descender, and thus isn’t affected by changes done by Irmunsul, “those who share the memory” could be referring to the fact that people’s memories about certain events or things have been changed, except for his memories.
I always thought it was about The Seven, none of my friends ever said anything about it referring the adepti either so this misunderstanding came as a surprise xD We were like "it's probably because only Barbatos and Morax remain (from the og archons) but Venti slumbers often enough that there's time for Zhongli to drink alone and reminisce"
Zhongli might be all about contract but he’s one of the few that relish the past and looks back on the good old days and retells the story so people will remember those that has long since passed
I guess even erosion affects the gods of the world, Teyvat specifically. And osmanthus wine serves as some sort of medium of recollection of the original 7, his archon family per se. Because without it, what is there to remember?
Never been hugely into Genshin, but I like yours and some others' videos on it. Imagine my surprise when I hear Zhongli's voice for the first time in this video, then go "wait..." And find out his VA is Keith Silverstein? This ancient earth god sommelier dude is Hawk Moth from MLB? Wild- 😂
@@AlittleD4ndelion We don't have info about the previous cryo deity we only know about the current one the Tsaritsa, and yes Tsaritsa is the 2nd cryo archon
So you're saying that all this time that annoying line didn't come from his adepti friends, but from the original seven archons? Damn I don't even know what to feel about that 😞
This is pretty sad when you consider the fact that he is only the current original archon. Venti: Was a wind spirit and became the next anemo archon. Ei: The original electro archon was Makoto, her sister, if I'm correct. She only took the role of the electro archon after Makoto died in the Khaenriah incident. Nahida: She is the archon after Rukkhadevata, or in other words, she is not the original, aka Kusanali. Furina: I'm not sure if Focalors and Egeria are the same person, but I'm pretty sure she still isn't the original.
I really hope we get to see Venti and Zhongli getting to meet one on one to talk to eachother, though they met again during the Lantern Rite, they had to pretend to not know eachother. Those good friends deserve to enjoy some wine together and remember those they lost.
I think it's not only about those other 5 archons (excluding Venti bcs he's still alive), it's about everyone who he had met and befriended, whom he shared drinks. That's my thoughts every time i heard this words.
In my convoluted headcanon he's asking where is the people who might still remember the original state of things after Irminsul erasure/manipulation since there's a theory that he is a descender and he even seems to remember the original dendro archon given his line about Rukkadevata. I know it's a simple line about mourning his fallen archon comrades, but imagine if it turns out to be something deeper or has a twist to it? Knowing the hidden lore and hints in every single thing from genshin it might possible 😅 I dare to dream
I always thought he was referring to the other archons because they used to gather to share drinks and enjoy each other’s company. The adepti came in second honestly but no doubt he misses them too
I like this story much because it actually started with Venti going back and forth to Liyue to drink with Zhongli and then the other archons noticed this and was like "Why aren't we invited?" To Venti and Zhongli LMAO, That's when the archon gathering started in Liyue
And it will happen again as the traveler continues to offer companionship to all the Archons.
I've already started preparing my Serenitea Pot for that moment by redecorating it to the theme of 7 Archons (+ Paimon and Traveler) having a festival together.
hi! where can I read this in the game? I would love to explore and connect the dots for this hqhqhaha
@@countless-640 it's in Zhongli's story profiles
I think one of Nahida's voice lines was about meeting the other archons at some point and getting them all together again. Where she said that she might suggest to them to play hopscotch, but she then withdrew the idea because the lines that she would draw would be too small and it would be unfair for the other archons, making it seem like she made them small on purpose just to win.
@@risasouma2558 Thank you for the idea 💡❤
Zhongli: where are those that share the memories?
Venti: I'm right here
Zhongli melodramaticaly: where are those that share the memories?
Yes but venti has been dormant for these past 500 years and only woke up recently
@@theunrelatable5961
WAIT WHAT RLLY? I HAVE NEVER AT ALL SEEN THAT AND I HAVE BEEN PLAYING SINCE 1.1 WHAHAGAGSGS- 😭
To be fair, Venti forged a fake slavery deal in Zhongli's name during The Mondstadt Rebellion.
@@zanaquack8179What do you mean? It's literally in the first sentence we hear Venti say when he talks to Dvalin near Mondstadt. Granted, he doesn't name the specific timespan, but he straight up said "It's alright now, I'm back". And later on, but still in the Prologue, he says how weak he is, because he was gone so long.
@@Teldarinwoosh
Good thing Venti's a drunk, he can make up for the other 5 glasses
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Do you think that’s why he drinks so much?
@@ol4414do you think he'll drink less?
@@ol4414 Ei said he was already the one who drank the most back then... 💀
Zhongli: "..but where are those who share the memories..."
Venti: "Hey Zhongli."
Zhongli: "Sometimes I can still hear their voices..."
Venti : stop acting like I am also dead to
Zhongli: Even that drunk half naked femboy bard
Venti: like you was Well dressed whilr your whole ABS open, you broke old man
Zhongli is probably disappointed that out of any of the og archon his least favourite one is the only one left
@@gashousesgeekhouse2851nah I think he just missed Venti too since he had slumber for 500 years too
@@justgado2772 Zhongli actually said that the first time we met him, I remember him telling something like 'there was a friend of mine from Mondstat who would bring some wine to share whenever he visited' implying how he misses his visits
@@mhafan7226 he is lol even though he finds him annoying sometimes, so much that he threw boulders toward the lad 😆
"Osmanthus wine tastes the same as I remember..."
"...but where are those who share the memory "
"... The only one left is not even worth my time..."
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@@fore4138🤣
@@fore4138lmao😂😂😂
I thought people understood that the line wasn't addressed to his fellow adepti.
Ikr
Apparently not
Literally
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"For the seven of us, now two remained, it's a great tradegy that you are the one left."
"The feeling is mutual my friend"
This sounds like a tremendous roast, but I think both of them would realize that being the one left behind IS the tragedy. Kind of joking about their own grief.
But as per timeline : Ei existed with Makoto so, she was not the original archon but she may have attended the gathering of the seven. Just me blabbering stuff
It's true. Ei did meet then at the gathering as Makoto's Kagemusha. She was there. You're not blabbering lol
maybe she meet him but he must be more familiar with makoto rathen thn her shadow
@harryshade5700 "She didn't sit at the table". That's not true. She said it herself in her lines she feasted with the gods along with Makoto. Your last line is another assumption.
She's probably only there to be some sort of Makoto's body guard or something
To further confuse you all, since by the end of Sumeru's arc Rukkhadevata's existence has been wiped for good, that leaves Nahida as the "only" Dendro archon. By default, this should mean that Zhongli's memories have been rewritten as such that Nahida was always the one present in these gatherings, even if with another body. So that makes both Ei and Nahida good candidates to still be "those who share the memory". So technically, there are still 4 out of the 7 who share the memory.
Read too much into it? Maybe.
me when that line is said
" they are probably dead"
Learns the lore.
" oh they are dead."
Nahida isn't, she was just in prison. Remember: Nahida took Rukk's place in history, all of it, including in the memories of Morax.
@@PreaplanesRukk? The tree with a crown?
@@Preaplanesnope. Zhongli still knows that 2 archons remain despite Irminshul replacing Nahida. So for him Rukkhadevata is original archon of 7. Means - Zhongli is descender maybe x)
@@SamuraiSx19 Nope. Outdated information we got before we wiped Ruk from the tree. Now it's more like "only 2 archons from then remain(ed) in power"
@@Preaplanes nope. you can't avert the meaning just cause you don't want to believe in facts.
I love the archons like idk why hearing Zhongli say 'where are those who share the memories' and Venti being the only other surviving one is just so nostalgic why
This actually makes a lot more sense. Just feel a little sad, as it seems like Zonghil really enjoyed spending time with the other archons. I felt like Makoto, made it into a huge priority because, it’s been shown a lot how important it was to her. Nahida, overtime has turned into a small fragile but powerful archon.
I’m not for sure about the other archons but just a little sad knowing that most of them either died or where replaced.
I like the subtle reference to how rukkhadevata doesn't exist and never has and who am I talking about?
@@LeprodusIdk, you were blabbering about someone not existing.
@@Leproduswho ...?
@@LeprodusWhat’s a Rukkhadevata?
I gotta say Hoyoverse has been really creative with how the archons got replaced. I expected it to be like "i had a child so it became the new archon" but until now, they somehow found a way to not make it like that and its amazing
I wish Mihoyo would show us in the future who the original 7 were and their story. It would be great to see
@@lostforever773idk how to interpret this, but we know 4 of the original 7 archons, those being Rex Lapis, Barbados, Makoto and Greater Lord Rukkhadevata. The ones we aren't familiar so far are the previous hydro, Pyro and cryo archons.
@@adrianosefanovsko3476 we'll know them
@@adrianosefanovsko3476and Egeria
Im pretty sure we will have a flashback of 500 years ago, and 3000 years ago. We need to see how Morax and Venti were at their lowest moments
I read somewhere that the genshin anime will be about the khaenriah disaster and it’s aftermath but take it with a grain of salt
Osmanthus wine tastes the same as salt, and betrayal
“Osmanthus wine tastes the same as I remember.. But where are those who share the memory..?”
Venti: Ehe :D
Zhongli: Ugh it reeks of wine eww
😭😭😭😭
best interaction ever 😂
Fun fact: Yao Yao’s constellation is called osmanthus
osmanthus wine made out of dead bunnies?
@@PsusanooMore like osmanthus wine collected by rabbits... 😂
@@shun.ei19 I see... Bunny slavery
@@Psusanoo Not really I think. They get paid with high grade foods.
Fr as a Zhongli main i died when i read her con’s name
Honestly, I never thought that the Osmanthus line was about Zhongli's adepti friends. I immediately knew he was talking about the seven.
that’s actually so heartwarming bc he’s always clowning on venti for drinking too much wine but in the end he still misses those good old days. with venti being his only long term companion left there’s obviously still a soft spot for the both of them. now i won’t mind hearing that like every 2 minutes 😂
Well this goes to show the deep bond of friendship and respect Zhongli and Venit have for one another.
That means it'd be even more insulting if Zhongli said that in front of Venti. Nice 😂
Not to mention that his character story 5 is mainly talking about his friendship with venti.
That's why it kinda annoys me when the fandom just took his voiceline about venti in face value and go "haha zhongli hates venti so much." 🙄
"Even the hardest rocks may be worn down after three thousand years. Nor would the wind ever return (to his side) again."
These lines give me an impression that venti's disappearance 500 years ago was zhongli's final straw.
Agree. And he is just probably Tsundere-ing when he saw Venti again in the two Festivals. 😂
Venti is definitely his stress ball. 😂
Venti's disappearance wouldn't really fit since he already went sleep mode many times before (Venti woke up after 1000 years of sleep when Venessa's story unfolded) and Zhongli was never alarmed by his disappearance (unless Zhongli thought Venti died from Durin's poisoning, which would be weird because a natural calamity is bound to happen whenever a god dies, so imagine the super cyclone if the Archon of Wind were to die...)
@joyhammer3148 exactly. Venti always went to sleep when everything was okay. But he disappeared 500 years ago right after the cataclysm happened, so zhongli might think he was the only one left at some point. Though maybe later, he realized that venti was still alive, because no natural disaster happened and no new anemo archon was raised to divinity.
Still, the word "nor would the wind ever return to his side again" after telling us that barbatos often came to liyue to meet him just makes me think things.
@@renapundarika2135 yeah... or maybe Venti started to refrain from then on from going every time to Liyue and it made Zhongli sad.
“But where are those who share the memory”
“Hey, blockhead! I’m right here, you know!”
I always understood it as him reflecting on the many lives he's seen come and go.
I actually knew it when he said that....but this just made it better....cuz the line where he said those who shared the memories means he's reminiscent about the past which is deep...😢
I think Zhongli hates his immortality he has. Imagine being older than all the 7, and living longer then them... Eventually he will have to say goodbye to Hu tao... I honestly think Zhongli will sacrifice himself in Genshin story which is why he retired. He is alive and is able to give small pushes to help Liyue, but think about it like this... Zhongli was the first Archon, followed by the pyro Archon. Zhongli has lost so many adeptus family, his Archon family and who knows what kind of family he had before arriving in tevat... People like to say Ei lost more but that just isn't true. Ei is significantly younger than Zhongli and Venti but especially Zhongli. Chances are Zhongli was extremely close to Baal (Ei's sister) when she passed.
Zhongli is one of my favorite characters in the game, and people often misunderstood why he tested Liyue. They also think he was manipulated by the Fatui which it doesn't take much thinking to realize he didn't. Zhongli as much as it pains me, i believe will die before the end of the story. The oldest person we know (could be as old as the dragons) passing away. Liyue is the city of change, so it would fit the story of Liyue. Zhongli earnes his retirement more than anyone in tevat.
Yeah they even included it in the storyline where Zhongli made a contract a with them so he could retire and rest
Zhongli is not immortal he even explained to the traveller that he is telling him about the history of liyue so that once he dies there's someone that is aware of the history and will share it to future generations
People who misunderstood his intentions just don't read the story well and skips it.
He tested them because he will be stepping down as the archon of Liyue. *blablabla* (everything is already said in the quest).
Also, no one can control a literal god. Zhongli just followed the Celestia's path because he probably wanted to protect Liyue from becoming one of the casualties.
So it would be obvious that Zhongli probably supports the Tsaritsa, and just tried to get a deal about his people not needing him anymore or being independent, especially the adepti.
Zhongli is probably tired of seeing many dead bodies. From before the Archon War to the Cataclysm, and even after it.
So he is retiring also because of it.
Maybe, also, to be ready with the possible War versus Celestia. Even the drunbard knows how to act weak, Zhongli will probably be in front later on as he is the shielder. And maybe, Venti will be the only original left after the war.
It's just a theory but it may be possible.
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Old Zhongli needs to rest already and find his inner peace.
@@rohamebrahimi7844 Yeah, they are just immortal in a sense that they have high numbers of vitality. They won't be old in body and die of old age.
They don't have the true immortality that gods has. Even those gods can die if their concepts disappears or is devoured by another.
Oops! Looks like we are going to Star Rail already and is combining the Aeons. But yeah, "both universe" have similarities as all others have.
Then it feels even better to remember how Venti and Zhongli acted during their two events together.
Friends that no matter how long they last saw each other, they still act friendly towards each other.
it must've been so awkward for egeria being the only one that was known to be on the naughty list of Celestia at that time.
like when they're drunk they'd say shit about each other and they'll mention like
"Egeria u dumbass u coulda just asked permission to make people first, now ur nations gonna dissolve lmao."
His voice line about the Archons changed as well since Rukkadevata was erased from Irminsul. However he still mentions that only two of they original seven remain in seats of power. I’m not sure if it’s possible he is immune to Irminsul’s changes. Some theorize he is a shade.
Or he doesn't count her because she has no memories of those times making her not the same person.
He's a Descender. And he was already around waaaaay long before Phanes planted the Irminsul.
@@joyhammer3148Wei watchers:
@@mrburpmud more like former huuuge lore digger. I study archeology, so I've always been fascinated by the fact that Genshin's lore digging really resembles the reconstitution of events methods we use in archeology (like compiling hearsays, stories from the past, clues in architectural vestiges, etc...) to make guesses, theories or confirm things that happened in the past (archeological research is actually 80% guessing and theorizing and 20% hoping labs analyses will confirm our theories 😂). That's what hooked me to the game.
I've discovered Wei's vids (and later Ashikai's) way after stopping lore digging. So I actually watch them to confirm that I'm not the only one thinking about certain things or to stay updated about new countries lore.
@@joyhammer3148fyi, its the same for all the games. The extensive, time consuming & theorizing nature of lore digging means entire communities need to be erected just to catalogue the discoveries but also to coordinate the analytical process & evaluate evidence (the internet is useful in this if u know how to use it which generations prior to the zopmer happen to be (no seriously, study tech illteracy in youth, its interesting)). The later component theorizing nature plays into the time consuming & extensive nature of the work as the average man may not have the time & dedication to not only do all of the prior steps (they are playing for fun & escapism, realism & tediness are the last things they want) but also to take it to it's conclusion by sitting to evaluate every bit of information, drawing relationships between them & theorizing, another reason for the neccessity of emergent dedicated communities & persons. Those who choose this path push the bounds of the subject with their work with this which may lead one into reading in between the lines too often & coming up with rather out there theories but those end up being the most contentious parts of history which fade into obscurity.
Venti: **sleeps for ~1000 years**
Venti: yo Zhongli 🍻
Zhongli: Things haven't been the same since the original seven died...
Venti: I'm still here
Zhongli: sometimes i still hear their voices
And this is why I always redirect him to Venti who is the whole reason their tradition was started-
Zhongli: But where are those who share the memory...
Venti: Ehe
Zhongli: Not you
Venti clearly still remembers
The "Ozmathus line" got me! xD
The ending line was definitely salt and betrayal when you ended it with a cliff hanger
I wonder if Zhongli has some guilt within him. Maybe he saw the previous Cryo Archon die while he fighting beside him in Khaenriah and thats why he wanted to help the Tsaritsa because he feels responsible for his death. Remember that after the Cataclysm ended and Zhongli returned to Liyue he just stood still flying above the Chasm and didnt uetter a single word. Zhongli doesnt express heavy emotion the only other time he truly felt grief was when Azhdaha and Guizhong died. I feel like Zhongli is a really end game character unlike the other Archons
There is evidence that even after the final sumeru archon quest, zhongli remembers rukkadevatta exists its subtle but its hinted at
Thats super interesting! Where can i find that?
@adbori7854 i believe its his dialogue about " the seven" and its difference before and after sumeru act 5
@@adbori7854that's his "Story 5".
"As time passed, many of The Seven's titles changed hands, and only two remain of the first Seven: Rex Lapis and the Anemo Archon."
changed to
"As time passed, many of The Seven's titles changed hands, and only two of the first Seven remain in position of rulership: Rex Lapis and the Anemo Archon."
Ei still shares the memory, she would show up to the gatherings with Makoto.
Only show up tho. They barely talked
I always thought the osmanthus wine line actually refers to the archons gathering XD
same, I never thought of the other adepti as it felt like they are zhongli's child or something like that and not friends
Zhongli:where are those who share the memories?
Venti:Im right here
Zhongli:I thought you'd be too drunk to remember barbados
Venti:how could you think so lowly of me Morax?
Zhongli:cause you're pretty
Venti:you can't make up by complementing me
What kinda messed up shit is this lol
I THOUGHT SO! not zhongli and venti being besties 4ever
Also he is aware of tevyat changing it's history maybe he is hinting us from the beginning that people gets erased from tevyat and the passage of time also killed some of his friends
This is why I keep saying just go to Mondstat you will find the one that shares the memory or wait and he will come to you cuz God knows he's mr worldwide
no wonder, since he lives for so long and he still remembers them all....
Can't blame those who thought its about the adepti given his loss of them was mentioned in archon quests and story quest. The gathering of the archons is only in his voice/story lines. Not everyone does read/listen to them.
Out of seven, five must pay the price
Wait a min, thats the wrong game...
@@subscriber101able but its true
Imagine rukkhadevata drinking with ziongli
That already happened tho
I do want to note though only 2 of the original remain, Ei was around when Makoto was still around too. She just wasn’t in position, so she can also probably remember them. Also apparently her voiceline about Venti mentions he was the one who drank the most in the past
Damn i want to play Zhongli story again, it was good ngl
Every time he says this I say " we get it grandpa your friends are dead"
The fact that. Murata remained hidden
Murata is dead
Id like to think that Zhongli wouldn’t let venti pass away since he’s already lost all the others :(
PROTECT YOUR FRIEND ZHONGLIIII
"Have I...fullfilled my duties"? It's such a simple and powerful line. I wonder if we'll bid him farewell once our journey in Teyvat ends...
I can't wait when the Pyro and Cryo Archons come out All Archones to sit around a table and have a good chat. 😁
I always said "THEY'RE DEAD." when zhongli said that because I thought he meant his adepti friends like Guizhong ☠️ BUT it fits too for the archons (makoto and rukkhedevata)
I really love people like you who do this ❤❤❤
bro i didnt even think about guizhong i thought it was the seven from the beginning
“The memories” = PTSD from khaenri'ah
Lmao 😅 and from the archon war lol
And as of now, this is even deeper. Since it’s theorized that Zhongli is a Descender, and thus isn’t affected by changes done by Irmunsul, “those who share the memory” could be referring to the fact that people’s memories about certain events or things have been changed, except for his memories.
I mean, Osmanthus wine doesn't exist in teyvat
I always thought it was about The Seven, none of my friends ever said anything about it referring the adepti either so this misunderstanding came as a surprise xD We were like "it's probably because only Barbatos and Morax remain (from the og archons) but Venti slumbers often enough that there's time for Zhongli to drink alone and reminisce"
Zhongli might be all about contract but he’s one of the few that relish the past and looks back on the good old days and retells the story so people will remember those that has long since passed
I always thought from the start that it was indeed about the original seven.
I didn’t knew people didn’t thought of the seven 😮
Zhongli and Venti being the only ones remaining of the original seven is sad asf
UR LITERALLY AMAZING
I was confused at the beginning of this vid because I always interpreted its original meaning from the start lol
I thought this was common understanding after his story quest
That implies that he knows about ruketevatta
I always thought he was talking about his friendship with Venti.
I guess I was kinda right
zhongli and venti rn : 😭
I guess even erosion affects the gods of the world, Teyvat specifically. And osmanthus wine serves as some sort of medium of recollection of the original 7, his archon family per se.
Because without it, what is there to remember?
Zhongli talking about the old archons: Where are those who share the memories?
Also Zhongli talking about Venti: It reeks of… wine.
when i first heard his line, i just thought he had no friends. yep. thats all i thought
I already assumed this, I didn't know people thought it was about the adepti
It should be both for them because he remembers all of them dearly. That would make sense.
Never been hugely into Genshin, but I like yours and some others' videos on it. Imagine my surprise when I hear Zhongli's voice for the first time in this video, then go "wait..." And find out his VA is Keith Silverstein? This ancient earth god sommelier dude is Hawk Moth from MLB? Wild- 😂
wait how do people not know this 😭
Your LiYue pronoinciation is so good
This guy is a literal thread for the game.
i actually thought everyone knew that that line was about the original seven archons...
So Barbatos, Morax, Makoto, Rukkhadevata, Egeria, Murata and Tsaritsa gathered around spilling tea about The heavenly principals... Hmph, how risible.
But isn’t Tsaritsa the current Cryo Archon?
@@AlittleD4ndelion We don't have info about the previous cryo deity we only know about the current one the Tsaritsa, and yes Tsaritsa is the 2nd cryo archon
Yall didn't interpret this already? Damn. Still a great video though
I thought he was talking about us/the traveler to be honest. I just didn’t think too much about it lol
Osmantus line sounds the same as I remember
So you're saying that all this time that annoying line didn't come from his adepti friends, but from the original seven archons? Damn I don't even know what to feel about that 😞
Neuvillette in the corner: Now that's a wine I haven't heard of in a long time.
I knew it was about the archon, but I though 'where are those who share the memory' meant they stopped because they're nation needs them
At the end of Genshin, we need the seven remaining archons to start drinking wine, together
I like to imagine that Zhongli and Venti bond a lot over being the last 2 originals.
This is pretty sad when you consider the fact that he is only the current original archon.
Venti:
Was a wind spirit and became the next anemo archon.
Ei:
The original electro archon was Makoto, her sister, if I'm correct. She only took the role of the electro archon after Makoto died in the Khaenriah incident.
Nahida: She is the archon after Rukkhadevata, or in other words, she is not the original, aka Kusanali.
Furina: I'm not sure if Focalors and Egeria are the same person, but I'm pretty sure she still isn't the original.
I really hope we get to see Venti and Zhongli getting to meet one on one to talk to eachother, though they met again during the Lantern Rite, they had to pretend to not know eachother. Those good friends deserve to enjoy some wine together and remember those they lost.
I think it's not only about those other 5 archons (excluding Venti bcs he's still alive), it's about everyone who he had met and befriended, whom he shared drinks.
That's my thoughts every time i heard this words.
Bro is lonely asf but when Venti came around, he's pissed so what the hell do you want, Zhongli? 😂
This video is swaying me back to my first guess about the line and the he was referring to the other Archons
"Speaking of salt and betrayal"
No.
Zhongli and Venti are the OGs
In my convoluted headcanon he's asking where is the people who might still remember the original state of things after Irminsul erasure/manipulation since there's a theory that he is a descender and he even seems to remember the original dendro archon given his line about Rukkadevata. I know it's a simple line about mourning his fallen archon comrades, but imagine if it turns out to be something deeper or has a twist to it? Knowing the hidden lore and hints in every single thing from genshin it might possible 😅 I dare to dream
Salty... and betrayal, my god poor harvia
zhongli: and that BARD had to be the only one alive...ugh it stinks!
I always thought he was referring to the other archons because they used to gather to share drinks and enjoy each other’s company. The adepti came in second honestly but no doubt he misses them too
Its so sweat to think of Zhongli, Venti, Makoto, Rukkhadevata, etc all eating together 🥹