Woolie, there is a reason why you would use tank controls. There are techniques you can do only with the tank controls, because they're positional based. For instance, you have a kick move if you press back+attack. You cannot do this with free controls because if you press back, you turn around immediately instead and attack.
Its woolies nature to be opposed to the extremes represented in his life. Whether those extremes are god, thinking racism isnt funny, or tank controls lol
"That's not a thing back then, you can't say that." Woolie conveniently forgetting Ronin exist If he's giving up this easily on puzzles he would hate Resident Evil
@@Who_is_Ari Bushido definitely existed before the Meiji era but what it actually meant changed quite radically over time. It gains a much greater focus on loyalty towards the emperor and self sacrifice then it did under the Tokugawa.
This game's $20 on steam for those interested in playing it or revisiting it after watching this video. I'm strongly considering getting it. Edit: I bought it.
I recently went through it and it's a blast. You can feel the age of the game sometimes, but in general it's pretty fun and the combat is surprisingly deep for it's era. I strongly recommend you play it in Japanese though haha
@@neoshenlong I'm looking forward to it, I loved these games as a kid. Yeah, they're not long games, but they've got the replayability appeal of devil may cry games where you can decide to burn through with all your stuff on a higher difficulty and it feels great.
I played some Onimusha 3 as a kid but never really got into it. I think its a good sign that I really enjoyed the game even though it was my first time playing it in 2021. It definitely has aged well, yeah.
Update: Just completed the game LOL Makes me want to go through the 2nd and 3rd games again too! Might even try the one with the character who showed up in Tatsunoko vs Capcom!
Fun fact: The soul eaters can multiply the amount of souls you get back from them depending on how many times the souls are eaten. That number can get BIG. Also I believe R2 is a quick turn, similar to what RE3 had only one button instead of down and run. I might be remembering that wrong though. Edit: Oh so it was on PS2, but they changed it in here, R3 used to be the map.
Given the choice between being able to explore more of the map right away or pressing the attack button one less time per enemy our boi chooses to make backtracking a necessity.
@@vVAstrAVv oh man I loved nioh’s 2 way of telling you how’s shit gonna be, I remember the beta dropping you in a hard stage and if you wanted to experience the rest of it you had to beat the flexile sentry ass boss.
Oh man, the amount of souls you can get from those floating-blue-skeleton-head dudes can be INSANE (possibly up to 5 or 6 bars worth) if you keep killing the one who takes souls, then letting another one take those souls, and rinsing and repeating. If you've got 4 of those dudes in a room with the souls from the first boss, you can probably get over 6 bars of souls if you manage to keep passing the souls between them. The only gamble there is that they can escape with ALL of the souls after a bit if you're too slow.
@@foo3268 As someone who played the originals, the analog feels smoother in general in this. Though if you already know what you are doing it actually is a bit easier since the enemies aren't fully built for it lol.
@@eachasteriod1334 I just think its smoother, the remaster implements it surprisingly well. Though as I noted in another reply, it might break the game a little since the enemy encounters are not really built for you to move that way.
Imo fire sword is best of the 3 in terms of the regular attack - definitely the strongest per hit. Oh yeah, and killing with an issen pretty much guarantees you'll get health, plus you can do it while blocking (though it is harder for some things).
That was the the intent of all three weapons. Raizen is the most balanced, Enryuu is strong but, slow. The wind weapon is fast but does the least amount of damage.
Cute that you think tank controls are a joke in this game. That couldn't be further from the truth, the original Onimusha 1-3 were tank control ONLY. The remake changed that :)
I recommend playing every Onimusha game with Tank controls (Other than Oni 4 as thats Analog) You will become a literal god with OG Tank controls once you master it. Unlike Analog sticks, it will *Fuck* you up everytime with the Camera angles. Tank controls all the way.
Well tank controls Work well with fixed camera angles (since This game uses pre-rendered backgrounds like in a Classic Resident evil game you're not changing the camera manualy any time soon) and i guess nobody really likes going in a direction in DMC1 and sudenly turning ALL the way back because the câmera hard shifted to the opposite direction
See, I personally want absolutely nothing to do with Berserk but I like the Dark souls series and love Dragon's Dogma(Woolie LP when?) So I guess woolie is a little right. Though I'll never like Berserk itself though...
This game works AMAZINGINGLY well with tank controls. With the lock-on you can dash around enemies and it all feels so good to master.
Use stick for general movement, use dpad for combat.
Yeah, I learned that myself when I was playing. I got stuck at the Samanosuke clone fight though.
Ya, tank + lock = some reql neat feelin movement options
parry, look at the map then thrust, only way to makes sure you hit the perfect spot in an enemy is to quick check your position in the universe
It's a speedrunner strat.
"None of these guys dropped any health."
*just watched 3 of the 5 enemies drop health*
Reminds me of the old super mario RPG lp
"Tha-that's a bug"
Woolie, there is a reason why you would use tank controls. There are techniques you can do only with the tank controls, because they're positional based.
For instance, you have a kick move if you press back+attack. You cannot do this with free controls because if you press back, you turn around immediately instead and attack.
Litterally a lock on system can fix that ez
have you ever played devil may cry
I stand corrected, Woolie is not a coward but a shameful hater of the tank controls.
Had he played classics REs, he would've understand how good tank controls are.
Its woolies nature to be opposed to the extremes represented in his life.
Whether those extremes are god, thinking racism isnt funny, or tank controls lol
@@vVAstrAVv He really needs to make up his mind on that second one
@@vVAstrAVv Woolie without his racism is like pat without his dwarfism, it just isn’t them without it.
Samanosuke: "I serve no one but myself!"
Then you're basically a ronin, not a samurai.
HE FOUND OUT ABOUT TANK CONTROLS
RUN SAVED
Edit: he didn't use it
RUN RUINED
Yea, I'll remember this moment anytime they bring up the camera angles with a little pain
Unreal levels of backing down.
"That's not a thing back then, you can't say that." Woolie conveniently forgetting Ronin exist
If he's giving up this easily on puzzles he would hate Resident Evil
"That's wasn't Bushido" Bushido wasn't even real, it was made up in the late 1800s.
@@Who_is_Ari Bushido definitely existed before the Meiji era but what it actually meant changed quite radically over time. It gains a much greater focus on loyalty towards the emperor and self sacrifice then it did under the Tokugawa.
@@aidan4252 Oh, I was referring to Bushido as in what the average person, so in this case Woolie, thinks about today.
@@Who_is_Ari Bushido is like the code of chivalry in the west. It existed but not as pop culture view it as today.
Oh, didn't notice the gauntlet blinks now and then. You can see it at the end of the cutscene with the kid and the ninja girl.
If you figured it out already later on, you can level all your weapons and orbs evenly and not miss out on anything
Playing this without the tank controls feels so clunky, like you can't even do the kick without them.
I use sticks to move because I'm used to it but I do all the combat on D pad. Have for 20 years I can't stop now.
@@jonaswest6993 That's how I do it too with the re-release. Exploration on stick, combat on d-pad.
Also, real talk; the level up jingle for weapons is ingrained into my psyche.
I love that sound.
30:52 - Woolie, just..... take a picture with your phone.
Man, Nioh really is just kinda essentially Onimusha, huh?
Onimusha as done through Koei's historical fanfic lens of Sengoku Japan.
I doubt onimusha will become a diabloey looter hack and slash after they beat it
yeah with extra steps and loot
@@vVAstrAVv You clearly didn't play Dawn of Dreams then because the game almost to that point long before Souls and Nioh were a thing.
@@zeroskaterz92 but was it before king’s field?
Yeah so with lock on the D pad works wonders.
43:00 They're called Nightingale floors
This game's $20 on steam for those interested in playing it or revisiting it after watching this video. I'm strongly considering getting it.
Edit: I bought it.
I recently went through it and it's a blast. You can feel the age of the game sometimes, but in general it's pretty fun and the combat is surprisingly deep for it's era.
I strongly recommend you play it in Japanese though haha
Also, it is really short. It's perfect for an afternoon or two.
Quality remaster, lack luster port and good game. Definitely aged well. Especially the movement with lock on.
@@neoshenlong I'm looking forward to it, I loved these games as a kid. Yeah, they're not long games, but they've got the replayability appeal of devil may cry games where you can decide to burn through with all your stuff on a higher difficulty and it feels great.
I played some Onimusha 3 as a kid but never really got into it. I think its a good sign that I really enjoyed the game even though it was my first time playing it in 2021. It definitely has aged well, yeah.
1:30 with that Berserk argument you could say everyone has read something inspired by Devilman. Since Berserk was heavily inspired by Devilman.
I've played the 1st 3 games and I think I like the setting and characters in 3 the most but man the 1st is so nostalgic!
...and how the second game of this trilogy compared to DMC2?
@@KurstKensei Good actually. It has a cute parnter esque system that gives you different cutscenes and stuff
Update: Just completed the game LOL Makes me want to go through the 2nd and 3rd games again too! Might even try the one with the character who showed up in Tatsunoko vs Capcom!
@@KurstKensei its often considered the best of the franchise
Fun fact: The soul eaters can multiply the amount of souls you get back from them depending on how many times the souls are eaten. That number can get BIG.
Also I believe R2 is a quick turn, similar to what RE3 had only one button instead of down and run. I might be remembering that wrong though.
Edit: Oh so it was on PS2, but they changed it in here, R3 used to be the map.
Every so often Samanosuke's delivery sounds like Reggie doing a voice, and it throws me off.
Woolie chooses BIG NUMBER instead of utility for orbs
Given the choice between being able to explore more of the map right away or pressing the attack button one less time per enemy our boi chooses to make backtracking a necessity.
@@MuffinHunterX gotta get that future content son, can’t make filler episodes without some good ol’ backtracking.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this game on tank controls exclusively when it came out?
Yep, no analogue support either, just D-pad.
I like the old school difficulty of not telling you shit in older games
Coming from nioh 2 i like the style of telling you everything up front ONCE and letting you master it in your own time.
@@vVAstrAVv oh man I loved nioh’s 2 way of telling you how’s shit gonna be, I remember the beta dropping you in a hard stage and if you wanted to experience the rest of it you had to beat the flexile sentry ass boss.
Pretty much, that era was just kinda:
“Did you read the manual?”
“I got it used, it didn’t have a manu-“
“Then fuck you.”
Modern players are spoiled.
american healthcare: yeah, healing is never a guarantee
I'm somewhat disappointed Woolie didn't have the subtitle in the intro edited to say "WOOLords" under "Onimusha, but only somewhat.
Wow this game has a way better leveling upgrade mechanic with the swords than DMC2 did
Well you’d hope so, considering that dmc2 may or may not have been finished in 4 months.
Oh man, the amount of souls you can get from those floating-blue-skeleton-head dudes can be INSANE (possibly up to 5 or 6 bars worth) if you keep killing the one who takes souls, then letting another one take those souls, and rinsing and repeating. If you've got 4 of those dudes in a room with the souls from the first boss, you can probably get over 6 bars of souls if you manage to keep passing the souls between them. The only gamble there is that they can escape with ALL of the souls after a bit if you're too slow.
"You can't just say you are your own master! That's not how it worked back then!"
*said after killing multiple demons*
I've beaten this remake several times and never realized there was a quick switch button for weapons
Be glad this is the remaster lol. I remember back in the day that despite being PS2 games, at least the first 2 forced you to walk with the d-pad.
I thought it was fine, especially since you can side step your way through the whole game.
I don’t get it, d-pad is better
@@foo3268 As someone who played the originals, the analog feels smoother in general in this. Though if you already know what you are doing it actually is a bit easier since the enemies aren't fully built for it lol.
@@eachasteriod1334 I just think its smoother, the remaster implements it surprisingly well. Though as I noted in another reply, it might break the game a little since the enemy encounters are not really built for you to move that way.
@@Dragonsmana the enemies definitely aren't ready for 2D movement.
23:50 If they don't autotranslate it, pull out your phone and take a picture of the book.
I wonder when will they unlock the true lock on quick step tech.
you can pull those soul stealing enemies in with O
FoR tHe AlGoRiThM
Ahh.. how lucky they are to think that back in the day the D-Pad was a "Choice" lmao. it was our only option
Woolie out here not upgrading the orbs! They're keys as well!'
I wonder if we're ever going to see a level 3 thunder strike. Lol.
Woolie's hate for tank controls is so great he would gladly take pressing the map button mid combat so he does not have to use em
22:10 4th grade puzzle gives Woollie brain pain? Guess he will never touch Resident Evil Remake?
Boy woolie wasting those arrows is giving me anxiety
Well D-pad for changing cameras so you won’t have to deal with the weird controls changing with the angles
for the peeps watching the streams, has he figured out the combat movement with tank controls?
Kinda sucks that you can't unbind the map button from L3. You'd think in a re-release that they would at least give you that option.
The floor mark looks like the brave hunter mark
When i had this game, i never looked at the controls so I only used the tank controls, and i manually equipped everything. I’m kinda mad.
22:05 - It's just the slider puzzle with a new coat of paint; why the fuck do so many people have problems with them?!
Imo fire sword is best of the 3 in terms of the regular attack - definitely the strongest per hit. Oh yeah, and killing with an issen pretty much guarantees you'll get health, plus you can do it while blocking (though it is harder for some things).
That was the the intent of all three weapons. Raizen is the most balanced, Enryuu is strong but, slow. The wind weapon is fast but does the least amount of damage.
Flashbacks to onimusha 2 saduku puzzles
Across the Nightingale Floor
Personally I think the map buffer issen was fucking sick and wools should shoot for another
Cute that you think tank controls are a joke in this game. That couldn't be further from the truth, the original Onimusha 1-3 were tank control ONLY. The remake changed that :)
19:48 I'm so dumb. I had know Idea that gauntlet was able to blink.
I recommend playing every Onimusha game with Tank controls (Other than Oni 4 as thats Analog) You will become a literal god with OG Tank controls once you master it. Unlike Analog sticks, it will *Fuck* you up everytime with the Camera angles. Tank controls all the way.
Well tank controls Work well with fixed camera angles (since This game uses pre-rendered backgrounds like in a Classic Resident evil game you're not changing the camera manualy any time soon) and i guess nobody really likes going in a direction in DMC1 and sudenly turning ALL the way back because the câmera hard shifted to the opposite direction
I don't think the d-pad is joke; Im pretty sure the OG game controls like that .Been a while since I've played it tho.
Background music reminds me of the cartoon Gargoyles
Samanosuke: I can do this
The combat music reminds me of Soul Calibur.
Why are they cheating with the puzzles?
Woolie confirmed to be Big Cheater, explains his choises for Boss Characters ^_^
Love this series so much!!!!
Woolie the super wrong liar poo pooing tank controls for Onimusha. surprised anyone?
LETS GO ONIMUSHA
ZACK FAIRE IS GUTZ
Woolie please. Berserk didn't influence anything. There's references to it, but edgy giant sword man isn't unique or original to berserk.
Use the tank controls you coward! It’s better for the game!
shameful display.
Unfortunate about the cheating thing. Just gonna have to drop the series and wait for a best of now.
See, I personally want absolutely nothing to do with Berserk but I like the Dark souls series and love Dragon's Dogma(Woolie LP when?) So I guess woolie is a little right. Though I'll never like Berserk itself though...
What do you find wrong with it?
I can never get into tank controls. So damn clunky