@@sadmarinersfan8935 The chances are low but not impossible (you drop an item at a low rate, which then has a chance of dropping one of the parts needed to craft an ultimate during a void interception). You will be able to see the drop rate of said item in the game.
Simple you dont want to spend money than dont, all the descendants and weapons, pretty much everything that isnt cosmetics will be farmable, the cash shop is there as a choice, its a way for them to make money when they are not charging for the game itself
My dude at last a reasonable comment about the cash shop....people can not understand that everything can be acquired through gameplay...who ever wants to pay is there...is what choises you make...
I can guarantee you that the game is going to be a huge p2w game in the future... It's from nexon and they love their stat rerolls for 1-10$ per roll 😂
I appreciate free-to-play games and see purchasing in-game content as a way to support the developers and express my enjoyment. However, I prefer not to buy everything, including some of the more grind-heavy items, because I enjoy investing my time in the game. I'll continue to purchase skins as long as the game treats the community well, but I'll grind for everything else.
But your grind is beeing invalitated by the fact somebody els can just buy it instantly whats the point in working for something if you can grind your job and just buy it .
@@xythiera7255 never view life this way my king. We all have 24 hours . Some of us work lighter careers and have more friends so the grind becomes enjoyable content Then some of us work double shifts inside a stressful career. So the resource for them becomes spending money so they can continue to enjoy their form of entertainment. There is no finish line with this. No goal that needs to be met. Just two options for those who lifestyle differ
@@xythiera7255 regardless of how you accomplished it you have to grind and the difference is you can just play the game and get significantly more rather than wasting money
@@xythiera7255 that true but i would look at them as their Dum spending money on a game your going to be playing anyways might as well save money use it for another game only for people who don't have the time to grind anyone else is stupid for wasting i support the battle pass only
And nexon effectively shutting down like 99% of their games, their known for making short life span games putting all the hyped stuff in marketing as an ultra hybrid between 4 others games and then their just milking whales. And why does everyone thinks "getting free stuff makes the game better" that's such a misconception cause we need to put it in relation to other similar games and the time it takes to get those. Also stuff like is the farmable stuff in the shop too? Why farm hours when other people are just going to buy that?. But alone the studio is a huge red flag
@@xythiera7255 it’s not pay to win as there’s no PVP it’s PVE only. And everything from store can be farmed but will take a very long time to get the ult components
First descendent is just korean warframe.... so it means that the things u buy its 5x more expensive. Just a fun tip... try to get bunny prime and ajax prime.... u know...maybe itll get vaulted... u never know
@@romainsanguesa7639 honestly not long every mission tells you what they drop and you can also look up the item on where they drop the only thing is crafting just like warframe it take hours to make unless you pay to rush completion which is really cheap or just wait.
Its worse . Basicly the thing that will happen is the wales will just be fully geared day one and just finish everything the first week . I dont realy get why anybody woud buy the loot so he doesnt need to play the game anymore . This game will just be a pay to win hell and die i already see it
What I’ve noticed is that there are indeed some FTP games with a nasty paywall, like when the grind is made so unbalanced to force you to pay *COUGH COUGH LOST ARK*, but then I’ve seen people get a bad attitude from games like that to the point where they think every grind is unbalanced and start yelling it’s P2W. I will be the first to call this game out if the grind is made for you to swipe, but if it’s just your standard grind (which many people have forgotten what that is and just complain about simply because you can buy things), I’m going to be calling you lazy pricks out.
@@xythiera7255 I’d rather be smart with my money than blow it on some video game. That’s the difference between someone who has money and someone who is broke.
Not too bad for a free to play game. One strategy is pay what you think the games worth. $10? $20? $40? $70? Then buy that at the start, use the currency to get what you want or hold it until you know what you want. Then consider it as if you bought the game and grind from there. Then just get the cosmetics you want later down the road if you end up playing for a long time
There is no justification in wining about a game that is completely free to play lol......warframe has the exact same monetization......some of the prices are even the exact same.
Base descendents coming in at different prices sounds horrible, almost like they are priced higher because they are better. Why not balance all of them to be even and sell at the same price. I wonder what the thinking/ reasoning behind that was
getting late game descendants early is also a reason to charge a bit more, but if someone cant even for bunny, the first unlockable, then thats just lazy, cuz shes stupid easy to unlock compared to many later characters.
is it just me this hiving this probable i payed for cabler in the ps4 store it told me i had got it there but i logged in to the game to buy the battle pass and it say i do not have cabler
Battlepass is quite cool. Like challenges. That is one thing I sometimes buy. But as for now, every weapon, modules and stuff can be obtained in the game, which is nice. If they change that, I think this game will not survive. I do not know how they will be implementing pvp if they will do that later on. If they introduce forced pvp for example, then this game will be a P2W
So you can’t customize your character unless you pay every time that’s bullshit, I thought this was going to be a free game where you grind for loot to customize your guns and characters guess not.
It will probably be similar to Warframe where these and weapon slots are one of the few things you must buy with Caliber. Can always hold out for a player trading economy to earn Caliber for free then just max them out.
nah man theres no way in fuck u said its fair as a warframe "player" when u trade with people youre using small numbers like 65 or 180 in this thing youre using 3,00 and 5,000 for ultimate bundles. and if u wanted just in game cash shop well funny thing is in warframe for the prime resurgence you can get 2 prime frames 4 prime weapons and a bit of cosmetics for $60 and over here if i just wanted to buy prime bunny and the skin its 3,000 currency a 49.99 pack and a $5 pack lol oh and if in warframe say they did sell prime frames for plat youd be able to make plat by trading like almost anything
i don't know everything i think reactor being there is bad but no pvp in this game anyone stupid enough to spend money on this game for a advantage is Dum cuz aint no one is in a race u can just grind for get thing for free to spend money is kind of of Dum unless u don't got the time in a day to grind
They will implement the trading system sometime after the official release. Whether we can trade caliber has not been clarified yet, but it will most likely be an option since they seem to listen to players.
You utterly fail at logic. How can you claim the cash shop currency conversion is fair when that currency is worth nothing except for the real money it costs? 🤦♂
This game is a scam and people should stop comparing in-game currency to real money. You dont get "6 dollars back" you get pixels and devs can draw as many of these pixels as they wish, considering the game doesnt have trading this is an even more worthless in-game currency than Platinum from Warframe. This is a predatory pricing policy straight from a mobile game and considering the rest of the game is super lacking in almost every other aspect (lore, character design, level design, enemy AI, animations, UI!!!!sound...) if u had any doubts about this game while trying it out I suggest: just don't waste ur time and money at all, or at least wait it out. P.S. Everything about this game feels like a combination of derrivatives of other games, except done worse and with significantly less depth. The caracters are super corny, and the skins were created for hopeless coomers, considering how boring these characters are - they're mannequins which you can dress up into a school girl or a maid or an oversized dinosaur pajama, which in turn also gives us a sad insight into the world of east Asian beauty standards. Peace, and make the right decisions.
It's a pve... why are people always complaining. Most people have a life. We have a special perk called disposable income. No complaint when being helped but complain when they can't get their money up themselves. Immature and ignorant mindset.
To be honest...I dont even mind the shop.. its Modules that annoy me. That was my biggest issue with warframe... once modules started becoming a necessity.... the game became a drag. Also you mentioned that you hoped the game would grow an economy.. i disagree with you here. another aspect that I hated in warframe.. the constant spamming in chat.. drove me nuts. I just want to join up with my buddy.. hit the queue button and get a couple randoms to finish out the team and play the game.. not interested in all this min maxing nonsense.
@@marcoscunha511 😂 Guess I am not allowed to have an opinion based on the beta I played. When I played it I thought the skills were absolutely horrible and just not fun to use. The weapon seem so mid and nothing special. Same for enemies. Also I hated how empty the world was and the only time you saw enemies was when you activated the quest to make the enemies spawn. Just was not organic at all.
You can farm Ultimates in game, they have slightly better stats but they have ultimate only reactors and components
As long as you can get them in game just like with primes in warframe it’s fine yea
@@sadmarinersfan8935 The chances are low but not impossible (you drop an item at a low rate, which then has a chance of dropping one of the parts needed to craft an ultimate during a void interception). You will be able to see the drop rate of said item in the game.
i think i recall seeing them but i wasnt 100% thanks for the info
Hopefully they make the prices fair I mean for me I am going to grind for as much as I can
Simple you dont want to spend money than dont, all the descendants and weapons, pretty much everything that isnt cosmetics will be farmable, the cash shop is there as a choice, its a way for them to make money when they are not charging for the game itself
My dude at last a reasonable comment about the cash shop....people can not understand that everything can be acquired through gameplay...who ever wants to pay is there...is what choises you make...
I'll be buying a cpl ults. Some of us only have a few hrs of free time a week, so buying is the way to go.
I can guarantee you that the game is going to be a huge p2w game in the future... It's from nexon and they love their stat rerolls for 1-10$ per roll 😂
@luxvita2815 you can't guarantee shit, stop being negative
@@luxvita2815 no p2w without pvp bud
I appreciate free-to-play games and see purchasing in-game content as a way to support the developers and express my enjoyment. However, I prefer not to buy everything, including some of the more grind-heavy items, because I enjoy investing my time in the game. I'll continue to purchase skins as long as the game treats the community well, but I'll grind for everything else.
agreed
But your grind is beeing invalitated by the fact somebody els can just buy it instantly whats the point in working for something if you can grind your job and just buy it .
@@xythiera7255 never view life this way my king. We all have 24 hours . Some of us work lighter careers and have more friends so the grind becomes enjoyable content
Then some of us work double shifts inside a stressful career. So the resource for them becomes spending money so they can continue to enjoy their form of entertainment. There is no finish line with this. No goal that needs to be met. Just two options for those who lifestyle differ
@@xythiera7255 regardless of how you accomplished it you have to grind and the difference is you can just play the game and get significantly more rather than wasting money
@@xythiera7255 that true but i would look at them as their Dum spending money on a game your going to be playing anyways might as well save money use it for another game only for people who don't have the time to grind anyone else is stupid for wasting i support the battle pass only
If Skins are $10 - $15 I may buy some. If they are $20 and over that's a Hard pass.
The devs have said that u can earn everything in the game it will just cost time(grind)
yup
And nexon effectively shutting down like 99% of their games, their known for making short life span games putting all the hyped stuff in marketing as an ultra hybrid between 4 others games and then their just milking whales. And why does everyone thinks "getting free stuff makes the game better" that's such a misconception cause we need to put it in relation to other similar games and the time it takes to get those. Also stuff like is the farmable stuff in the shop too? Why farm hours when other people are just going to buy that?. But alone the studio is a huge red flag
I’m buying 3 ults. Gley for boss fights, Bunny for speed run campaign & to farm stuff, Ajax for tanking.
I’m doing the same. Gley, Bunny and Kyle
@@carlvanj best thing to do, Ajax for tanking, Gley for boss fights, Bunny for farming materials
gotta get that bunny skin
You do that then the game die in a month becouse of pay to win .
@@xythiera7255 it’s not pay to win as there’s no PVP it’s PVE only. And everything from store can be farmed but will take a very long time to get the ult components
Playstation has a small starter pack on there store and its free .
really thats cool
2:26 just found out that Warframe's Platinum is different regionally. 4300 plat is $ 73,39 in my country
ah regional pricing intresting
Warframe has a prime pack for $138 USD right now. People are overreacting to First descendant pricing since it's loot is available in game.
Grinding isn't fun to me, it's poor game design. I've always just purchased what I wanted or needed & will continue to do so
First descendent is just korean warframe.... so it means that the things u buy its 5x more expensive.
Just a fun tip... try to get bunny prime and ajax prime.... u know...maybe itll get vaulted... u never know
i farmed the ultimate version of that ice woman in beta unless they changed it, did defense mission for part then boss for maTs to craft
Hi, thanks for the info. How long did it take you to farm all the mats required?
ah thanks for the headsup
@@romainsanguesa7639 honestly not long every mission tells you what they drop and you can also look up the item on where they drop the only thing is crafting just like warframe it take hours to make unless you pay to rush completion which is really cheap or just wait.
As a TFD milker, I hope this isn’t a maplestory situation
Its worse . Basicly the thing that will happen is the wales will just be fully geared day one and just finish everything the first week . I dont realy get why anybody woud buy the loot so he doesnt need to play the game anymore . This game will just be a pay to win hell and die i already see it
What I’ve noticed is that there are indeed some FTP games with a nasty paywall, like when the grind is made so unbalanced to force you to pay *COUGH COUGH LOST ARK*, but then I’ve seen people get a bad attitude from games like that to the point where they think every grind is unbalanced and start yelling it’s P2W. I will be the first to call this game out if the grind is made for you to swipe, but if it’s just your standard grind (which many people have forgotten what that is and just complain about simply because you can buy things), I’m going to be calling you lazy pricks out.
can't wait to play this 100% free.
same
Or you grind your job and just buy everything the most efficent way to play this game
@@xythiera7255 I’d rather be smart with my money than blow it on some video game. That’s the difference between someone who has money and someone who is broke.
@@xythiera7255 It’s a matter of being smart with your money. That’s the difference in someone who has money versus someone who’s broke.
Not too bad for a free to play game. One strategy is pay what you think the games worth. $10? $20? $40? $70? Then buy that at the start, use the currency to get what you want or hold it until you know what you want. Then consider it as if you bought the game and grind from there. Then just get the cosmetics you want later down the road if you end up playing for a long time
Thank you for the information .
yeah np!
So does every character have a ultimate version?
They will release an Ultimate character with each update. Ultimate Valby is going to be the next one.
Not atm but i believe eventually everyone will
is the battlepass worth it with all rewards / skins / weapons and premium gredz back ;
There is no justification in wining about a game that is completely free to play lol......warframe has the exact same monetization......some of the prices are even the exact same.
Base descendents coming in at different prices sounds horrible, almost like they are priced higher because they are better. Why not balance all of them to be even and sell at the same price. I wonder what the thinking/ reasoning behind that was
getting late game descendants early is also a reason to charge a bit more, but if someone cant even for bunny, the first unlockable, then thats just lazy, cuz shes stupid easy to unlock compared to many later characters.
Cant wait to donate them
I don't how ppl say this is pay to win when u can farm everything in the game plus there's no PVP
Farming always have riggd drop rated.
I think because lazy.
is it just me this hiving this probable i payed for cabler in the ps4 store it told me i had got it there but i logged in to the game to buy the battle pass and it say i do not have cabler
You can play for free and pay if you wanna "support" the studio (yeah, you know, peoples who need moneys to eat XD).... sounds fair.
Battlepass is quite cool. Like challenges. That is one thing I sometimes buy.
But as for now, every weapon, modules and stuff can be obtained in the game, which is nice. If they change that, I think this game will not survive.
I do not know how they will be implementing pvp if they will do that later on. If they introduce forced pvp for example, then this game will be a P2W
I hope there will be a trade system like warframe.
Yes, it's coming, Director confirmed it.
yeah i would love trade system
Lol i was about to buy the b
Ultimate bunny but i rolled 2 of her parts 💀 was like welp there goes my money plan
Reasonable prices??? You just forget that everybody can buy platinum in warframe with 75% off AND you can FARM platinum in Warframe. What a joke!
Ultimate characters better come with sowm legendary weapons and soem rescourece to give them 2 level boost
Just bought 10$ worth of the currency and didn’t get it I’m on ps5 any help?
Oh they stated there’s a small delay on the currency atm, but it will come
@@kinggengar6046 thanks bro🙏
They should add trading
yeah im a big fan of trading
@@FervorGaming maybe they'll add clans/guilds too if they want to implement trading system
All i know is colors shouldn't be free. You should feel placated they're giving you this opportunity to spend your hard earned peanuts on color
Ultimates are farmable but grindy for me it's the same as warframe even primes there takes alot of time....
So you can’t customize your character unless you pay every time that’s bullshit, I thought this was going to be a free game where you grind for loot to customize your guns and characters guess not.
So the game dropped and playing it. How can I earn Free Premium currency in game ?
Are we limited to descendant slots to startas in Warframe? Can slots be farmed?
It will probably be similar to Warframe where these and weapon slots are one of the few things you must buy with Caliber. Can always hold out for a player trading economy to earn Caliber for free then just max them out.
What you mean Blair is a scam???
Prices are fine my guy
That is what I said I the video, my guy. Maybe stop commenting before watching.
if ultimates are only payed for then it could be classed as P2W so you HAVE to be able to get them for free
You can farm ultimates,it will take some time(grind),someone said drop chance 1%
@@stas5749 NAAAAA FELLA that is wayyyy too fukin low of a chance
@@shockwave54623 1% is pretty good. Its supposed to be endgame stufff
@@shockwave54623 yeah it sucks
Blair a scam for you? Why? He's my main so I'm curious about your opinion.
nah man theres no way in fuck u said its fair as a warframe "player" when u trade with people youre using small numbers like 65 or 180 in this thing youre using 3,00 and 5,000 for ultimate bundles. and if u wanted just in game cash shop well funny thing is in warframe for the prime resurgence you can get 2 prime frames 4 prime weapons and a bit of cosmetics for $60 and over here if i just wanted to buy prime bunny and the skin its 3,000 currency a 49.99 pack and a $5 pack lol oh and if in warframe say they did sell prime frames for plat youd be able to make plat by trading like almost anything
How is Blair a scam? What?
Everyone goin for ult bunny lol
The game is FREE to play and the game doesn't have PVP.. so whoooooo cares. I played a couple of the tests and the game is awesome
a minute in a zero information....
Grass….what’s that?
No clue
i don't know everything i think reactor being there is bad but no pvp in this game anyone stupid enough to spend money on this game for a advantage is Dum cuz aint no one is in a race u can just grind for get thing for free to spend money is kind of of Dum unless u don't got the time in a day to grind
So its just a fake ass war frame pay to win shit 😂
I am first to comment wow😮
mean game has no pvp so there is no reason to spend money
What does it matter anyway? It’s a PvE game
Keep that ptw fucking bullshit out. Charge 30 bucks for the game and keep mtx cosmetic only.
Hopefully we can trade for caliber…. They need that BAD
They will implement the trading system sometime after the official release. Whether we can trade caliber has not been clarified yet, but it will most likely be an option since they seem to listen to players.
You utterly fail at logic.
How can you claim the cash shop currency conversion is fair when that currency is worth nothing except for the real money it costs? 🤦♂
This game is a scam and people should stop comparing in-game currency to real money. You dont get "6 dollars back" you get pixels and devs can draw as many of these pixels as they wish, considering the game doesnt have trading this is an even more worthless in-game currency than Platinum from Warframe. This is a predatory pricing policy straight from a mobile game and considering the rest of the game is super lacking in almost every other aspect (lore, character design, level design, enemy AI, animations, UI!!!!sound...) if u had any doubts about this game while trying it out I suggest: just don't waste ur time and money at all, or at least wait it out.
P.S. Everything about this game feels like a combination of derrivatives of other games, except done worse and with significantly less depth. The caracters are super corny, and the skins were created for hopeless coomers, considering how boring these characters are - they're mannequins which you can dress up into a school girl or a maid or an oversized dinosaur pajama, which in turn also gives us a sad insight into the world of east Asian beauty standards.
Peace, and make the right decisions.
It's a pve... why are people always complaining.
Most people have a life. We have a special perk called disposable income. No complaint when being helped but complain when they can't get their money up themselves. Immature and ignorant mindset.
To be honest...I dont even mind the shop.. its Modules that annoy me. That was my biggest issue with warframe... once modules started becoming a necessity.... the game became a drag.
Also you mentioned that you hoped the game would grow an economy.. i disagree with you here. another aspect that I hated in warframe.. the constant spamming in chat.. drove me nuts.
I just want to join up with my buddy.. hit the queue button and get a couple randoms to finish out the team and play the game.. not interested in all this min maxing nonsense.
Can people stop bitching lmao 🤣 it’s free
Brow just dont buy,i swear internet is full of babys nowadays
asian f2p tries to rip you off? Thats a new one
@@marcoscunha511 For you left snowflakes, everything is racist.
$60 for an ultimate character is complete bullshit. That's the price of a full game. I love the game still.
I mean warframe had prime access for even higher alot
I found this game insanely boring and bland in the beta. Has no personality. Has no heart. Just a very blah experience.
@@marcoscunha511 😂 Guess I am not allowed to have an opinion based on the beta I played. When I played it I thought the skills were absolutely horrible and just not fun to use. The weapon seem so mid and nothing special. Same for enemies. Also I hated how empty the world was and the only time you saw enemies was when you activated the quest to make the enemies spawn. Just was not organic at all.
Fair enough. Don't play it then, go find something you like. Thanks for sharing your opinion.