MeatEater Podcast Ep. 478 | The American West
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2023
- Steven Rinella talks with Elliott West, Randall Williams, Brody Henderson, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.
How there are way more history PhDs now than there were before; talking about the dumb shit people do at Yellowstone National Park; when a fight over the last piece of fried chicken shuts down the interstate; a roaming bar in Northern Michigan for hire; how Steve invented an “old saying,” which goes, “a fresh set of eyes will always find more beans”; the Arkansas World Champion Squirrel Cook Off on September 23rd; how the origin of the word “shit” is old; the time when Dr. Randall reviewed the work of our esteemed guest; falling short on teaching American history; horses and disease; why you might call it the Last Indian War; Antietam; Elliott’s lifetime work, Continental Reckoning: The American West in the Age of Expansion; the greatest environmental transformation of the United States and making a new world; when citizenship is forced on you at gunpoint; the greater reconstruction and the great coincidence; humans’ long running obsession with gold; the 48ers; from hide hunter to candy salesman; and more.
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My Great great great grandfather was a Chief that fought in the Little Big Horn. His name is Limber bones and he was a Cheyenne Chief. If you go the the circle at the Little Bighorn you will see he gravestone nearby.
Love when Meateater talks about western history. We got the coolest mountain men stories too and would love to see them talk about that
Agreed, I'm from the UK but the brief history of you're country is a fascinating one
You should read Steve's book; the American Buffalo. Super full of history
As one born and raised in South Carolina, the stories of the Appolachians and the early frontiers people from 1780-1820s that were no further than the Ozark. That’s the history that intrigues me. It’s all Revolution and Westward Expansion. I’d rather focus on the slow “artillery” hits of history that happened on the way through, over and around the Appilachian and Ozark Mountains.
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I personally have a hard time reading books, but podcasts like this I can't stop listening to. Hope that you all keep doing these types of podcasts❤
Same - but I found out I love audiobooks and have “read” probably 40 books in the last year or so
Im willing to bet your vocabulary when you speak will increase ten fold if you read. But I get it, ummm and ahhh and literally's and like's, and " right" is the bread and butter of the corn syrup American brain.
Sitting here at work in Springdale, Arkansas enjoying this.
I love these types of old timers
for Rinella's love of the mountain men era, I haven't heard him mention Joseph Walker
what a lovely conversation, Steve you are a prodigy interviewer
i think i just found my new favorite podcast for when i'm drawing cowboys, love how american this is. Greets from Holland
Very pleased to hear him mention elk dogs! My grandmother was a fluent Blackfoot speaker and the word for horse (ponokaomitaa) is literally elk (ponoka) dog (omitaa)
This is one of the best podcasts I've ever heard.
I was all in as soon as I saw the title. Rinella and anything old west/ mountainman. Even bigger history geek than me. Love it
I hope we can get another episode on the western expansion and the effect it had on native tribes this was an excellent episode! Thank you
Also the coolest Yellowstone thing I’ve ever emcountered was a Buffalo skeleton literally sticking out of one of the Yellowstone Paint Pots . So eerie and yet looked like a macabre work of art
Omgosh! Steve I'm 3/4 through Journal of a Trapper now! Picked it up in a thrift shop in Alaska. Great book!
Steve, Brody, Randall and a guest should be the cast of the podcast 100% of the time. Love it when those guys get together.
Was the most interesting podcast by far for me, I am Canadian & learned a lot about American history in just a short bit :)
Man I love this guy. So awesome to listen to this podcast again. Port Huron Michigan native right here. Getting for this hunt right around the bend.
A fresh set a lookers puts more beans in the cooker. Always great content, thanks!
I'm going to start introducing myself as having RLE ( real life experience) like it's a phd
What an incredible interview. The expansion of the American West is such an under-told part of our VERY short history. Thank you so much for sharing!
Listening from Springdale Arkansas today. Really upset I missed out on the cook-off. It was at the JB Hunt nature center which is really a great place for conservation. I personally try to drive by as many times as I can on my way to work because I like looking at the deer. Is it odd of me to take the longer route because there's more deer to see?
Im fairly certain I cant find an equivalent conversation anywhere, even in our era of infinite information. That's an actual accomplishment. Also Randy, despite having an "ask me about my PhD" sticker on his mercedes c class, just listening and expressing via his facial expressions, strikes me as a dude just engaged with the subject, rather than anything podcast-related. Just adding reality points to the whole exchange. Great job guys.
Glad that you brought this up. I noticed the same thing
I can’t tell you how long I have been waiting for Dr. West to be a guest on Meateater or Bear Grease. History major at UARK and he was my professor of choice (also Dr. Chapell) when picking courses. The West of the Imagination was the most memorable course I had during my time on The Hill.
The Louisiana squirrel season opener is always the first full weekend in October. In our parish the schools are closed the Friday before and in other Parishes school attendance is at an all time low. The Dads take the boys to the woods and the Wives take to the malls with the girls. Squirrel opener is really a big deal in Louisiana.
It would be great for you all to have Indigenous scholars in conversation with topics like this. There are many Indigenous folks with scholarly expertise and experiential expertise that, I think, should be at the table for these discussions to represent the perspectives involved. The same with Black scholars who have researched and written about these issues.
"You'd expect a really nice picture".... I'm dyeing lol!!!
What a fantastic podcast. Love our western history stories. Thanks for sharing.
Always a good feeling to see that notification from Meateater
definitely something I look forward to.
Ya'll were talking about the nautical origin of common words or phrases. Many years ago while in the Navy I received a book from my father. The book was called Three Sheets to the Wind. Whole book on the subject.
Absolutely fantastic y’all. So relevant so missing in our public schools.
In my ornithology class, my professor, in two instances, used a speaker to attract birds to us, but strictly for learning purposes. As far as I know it is generally frowned upon because it causes birds to be territorial and expend resources for a false alarm. It is a waste of energy, which in some places is a matter of survival. In your suburban backyard it's probably not a big deal, but in arid to semi-arid regions, it could cause issues if lots of people are doing this. At least that is what I kind of took from that lesson.
So good! The difference between this and the nightly news or the Today Show couldn’t be larger.
One of the best topics!! Just need my other Arkansas brothern Clay Newcomb
A new view gathers more beans!
A second look invested, brings more beans digested!
Hunting, fishing, cooking, and history. Between the show and podcast, should be a high school class!!
A fresh set of eyes will always find the prize
Underrated comment, I can only hope Steve picks up on this
That rolls off the tongue way better then Steve’s saying
ya but it was never about that.... the point is pole beans!
“ Give um all 9 yds” , I always liked that one .
This my favorite podcast and TV show and I recorded all your show’s and have watched them at least 3 times and waiting for some new stuff so when will we get some ? Can’t wait !!!
A fresh set of eyes gets you closer to the prize !!!!!!! 🇨🇦 🍁
Love any meateater podcast that has to do with western history
I had to listen to the first hour and a half on Spotify this morning. Send now just got the last however, long on the TH-cam calls, I couldn’t wait for it to get uploaded to TH-cam. American West history really is quite fascinating. Especially when you realize that it didn’t happen all that long ago
That’s the crazy thing to me as well. We’re only talking a couple hundred years ago but I have a hard time even comprehending that! I’m not much of a reader (book wise) but I definitely need to start as there’s so much to learn. I get caught up thinking too much about the present/future, I think learning our past would help refocus my thoughts.
We cooked vaccuum sealed Carne Asada in a fairky famous hot-spring in the Payette River valley and did the same in Sunshine Hot Spring on the Middle Salmon years ago. Nothing weird about it.
Great show. I love this stuff
Thx for sharing this info as someone born and raised in Park county Wyoming the West was a very large part of school
I wish y’all would come talk about the East Coast before settlement with me in SC!
Oh man, been waiting for this one.
Really enjoyed this podcast! More history themed podcasts please!
Hey Steve... Can you look through those glasses and see life on mars?
As a Knight of the Golden horseshoe, its nice to hear someone talk about it lol
The Cleetus McFarland of the hunting world
Would love to see Steve make his own bow and arrows from scratch just like the Sioux/Cheyenne plains style( with iron trade points on the arrows and a sinew backed bow) then hunt a deer, elk or any game animal with this equiptment...!! 🤔👍
Fresh set of eyes will always find more beans...LOVE IT.
Steve wants to have a PhD so badly ;)
Have you ever seen Blazing Saddles? "Are you kidding me!" LOL!!!!!!
I was working today and trying to figure out the best way to do something. With the extra pair of eyes the easiest way was apparent… “you find more beans with a fresh set of eyes!”-me
Gratitude 🙏🏻
steve has got me calling the older of my twin boys "buster brown" i don't remember what episode i heard him say it, but for some reason it stuck with me lol
You must try sweet & sour squirrel 😋 So good, it's nuts.
Great podcast
Steve Rinella speaks for the Squirrels
My pick for four American authors to be etched into the side of a mountain world be Twain, Faulkner, Hemingway and Rinella...
I don't spend much time around late but have heard the store high in transit story.
Wasn’t Steve talking about putting out a show or some sort of project about the mountain men era?
It was some time ago i remember him talking about it but wondering if he ever gave any updates on this in recent podcasts I may have missed.
Pretty sure its a book in the making
@@slimsawyer8461 ooo ok that makes sense. I just remember him saying something was in the works and haven’t seen anything yet. Thanks for the reply bro!
Tell Steve the Merlin app does pic up when someone else plays a bird call with the app. Happened to me a dozen times using the app with friends
Great migration of the past, going to California. We are having a great migration now. People leaving California and affecting smaller communities of the intermountain west. Both migrations are/were to the detriment of the west.
A fresh set of eyes will always find more beans. That works in an accounting situation since they're already bean counters.
This is why Joe Rogan has such a successful podcast. He lets the guest speak most of the time. Steve and his populated clan speak gobbledygook the whole time.
I love this guy. The content is great man
awesome
traverse city michigan love sleeping bear dunes!!! I’ll be calling you for that bar brother
The old saying is “two eyes are better than one”
A fresh set of eyes is where the old set relies…. 😉 👁️ 👀
Someone’s probably gonna make squirrel sausage lol
"In no particular order ". Mark Twain, Ernest Hemingway, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Edgar Allen Poe, Stephen King
Bravo gentlemen, fascinating podcast
Man I would love to come a hunt or any trip with you I just lost my mom in the first week of October
Has anyone read any of West’s books? I’m very interested in Continental Reckoning and The Contested Plains and was looking for some opinions
Grey squirrels scream when an avian predator is spotted. They chatter and bark at threats on the ground. Just my personal observation. Also saw a semi-tame ruffled grouse, run up to the cabin foundation and stretch up while flattening itself to the wall. The hawk was at least a 1/4 mile up. Took us a while to find it. Not only was the grouse camoed, it could watch the hawk.
William Knifeman would have killed Custer but his horse stepped in a gopher hole and tumbled over and the horse ended up landing on William
knifeman killing him…
Don't forget York when discussing Lewis & Clark
14:45 "A new broom sweeps clean"
There's a huge difference between intelligent and Wise.
Great episode and I'll have to get the book
1:07:00 This is why we had so much trouble in Afghanistan
"Daytime Smoke" is a badass name
What is the outro song on this episode? Please I can’t find it anywhere. Ride on?
Squirrel lives matter too!😂🐿
You gotta know the Northwest Arkansas area, where Springdale finds itself. They are marketing to the money in the area... and ALL of suburbia can relate to the issues of the overpopulated areas in town/city that SO DAMN MANY squirrels call home. Anyway... lots a nuts in every metropolis, and NWA, while in Arkansas, has plenty that will struggle with eating squirrels, and the techniques and reasoning required to cook up a squirrel for consumption.
Very interesting topic. Manifest Destiny is a sad topic for me & my ancestors
About the destructive squirrels. My wife has a personal vendetta against the squirrels in our neighborhood tearing up her bird feeders, and wanted me to shoot all of them. I told her we had to wait until June 1st, when the season opened!
American Indian history on meat eater? oh hell yeah
I'd like that buffalo tattoo flash on my body
Love the American history shows. Guy had a good point about showcasing more natural history would love to hear more.
2:13 that's a Clark's Nutcracker.
My complaint about Merlin is that they're not including non-birds.
Piled Higher and Deeper
Lit pod yo
When you're crossing the border into Yellowstone you know full well what you're about to get involved in. You're already in a position where you should be on guard in some form. Getting attacked by wildlife in Yellowstone is an almost 100% chance that you earned it by your lack of intelligence and/or situational awareness. In your everyday life it's far more forgivable.
I sympathize with the guy getting bit by a raccoon taking the garbage out at 2330 in his boxer shorts, and never with the moron who wanted a selfie with an animal that can kill you by simply walking in broad daylight with warning signs everywhere.
i guarantee you the standing dead story is true. Or at least that it can happen. I shot a bird in the head one time, and I immediately realized something was really weird in the way it stood there. I slowly walked up to it, and I discovered that the whole back of its head was missing. But it just stood there.
Good stuff.
Any plans of having any Nimiipuu (nez perce) on your podcast?