Breaking Down The Highs And Lows Of The Lord of the Rings | Compilation

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  • @enanorocker6947
    @enanorocker6947 หลายเดือนก่อน +356

    I feel like the "Legolas problem" stems from wanting every single character to have development that maybe they don't need. Legolas is almost 3k years old, i'm sure he's had enough character development by the moment it all takes place, and his little change of heart with Gimli is all that we need, so we can focus on other great more important character in the story.

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Perfectly said. I’m thrilled with how Legolas is handled. Great character and he was done justice.

    • @go_gorilla_go
      @go_gorilla_go หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Correct. He and Gimli are side characters despite being in the fellowship. Frodo, Sam and Aragorn have the biggest arcs, next would be Merry and Pippin, then Boromir, then Gandalf, then Gimli and Legolas. At least in my opinion.

    • @benjaminbjrklund743
      @benjaminbjrklund743 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      good point!

    • @jamart1895
      @jamart1895 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agreed. If focus on giving him more, could risk of doing to much and thus hurting the pacing and quality of film. Him having the simple development of creating a bond with Gimli is adequate.

    • @sunflower17k
      @sunflower17k หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Agree. Legolas was already fully developed & very important to Aragorn. He was Aragorn's Sam in a way.

  • @canonogic
    @canonogic หลายเดือนก่อน +260

    The only "low" was that the films had to end

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Absolutely. There’s zero lows of these movies and I refuse to hear anything otherwise. Lol

    • @TimoFromNorway
      @TimoFromNorway หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I dislike the fact that the ghost army wiped out Minas Tirith. It underminds the victory of the Rohan army, making it seem like the ghost army saved them. It also didn't happen in the book.
      Gimli was also made to be a quip machine.

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TimoFromNorway Okay, so maybe I can accept the ghost army point. But still, small quip about an otherwise phenomenal cinematic series.
      I enjoyed Gimli's role. He was always perfectly timed comedic relief, which those movies needed with the heavy themes and plot that was always going on.

    • @funkydiscogod
      @funkydiscogod หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The "low" was how many times the films ended.

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@funkydiscogod It's all in how you watch them. There's only one ending to the whole trilogy.

  • @peterchristie1096
    @peterchristie1096 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    The fact that people are still nit-picking LOTR twenty plus years after its release just goes to show how much lasting quality it has.

  • @tc2241
    @tc2241 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    My wife watched LOTR for the first time during COVID. She absolutely fell in love with it. That a 20+ year old trilogy can do that is testament to Tolkien’s writing and Jackson’s talent in adapting it.

  • @murscience
    @murscience หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    "Theyre taking the hobbits to isengard!" Will never not trigger music in my head

    • @zyderman2050
      @zyderman2050 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I fully expected a freeze frame with sunglasses and a blunt dropping in.

    • @JackChurchill101
      @JackChurchill101 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ... To Isengard... to Isengard!

  • @RealJaketheDog
    @RealJaketheDog หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    *Apocryphal Blight* 😂😂😂
    2001: Arwen gets a speaking role
    2024: Galadriel is Xena Warrior Princess
    Liv Tyler saying”You don’t have to put a sword in her hand to make her strong”.
    How far we have tumbled into the nameless horrors of the world 😤

    • @alecross5255
      @alecross5255 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Also interesting how the outcry was their in 20 years ago for Arwen's inclusion, and continues into the Ring of Power. People need to chill

    • @realtalunkarku
      @realtalunkarku หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

    • @Annatar_Lord_of_Gifts
      @Annatar_Lord_of_Gifts หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@alecross5255 Nah the Rings of Power is terrible and completely ruined Galadriel yet alone every other character in the show. That outcry is justified.

    • @dante6985
      @dante6985 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Annatar_Lord_of_Giftsexactly even if you ignore Galadriel ROP completely doesn't work and falls apart on its own because it's simply not very entertaining. It's boring. The Galadriel stuff was early anti-woke jitters. A show, though not in line with the lore and basically fanfiction, with warrior Galadriel has the potential to be entertaining. ROP was not.

    • @pvpv5582
      @pvpv5582 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be fair, Galadrrrrrriel isn't the "low" in the Amazon's series. The character and actress are awesome.

  • @Mel-xk9go
    @Mel-xk9go หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Nothing absolutely NOTHING will top the Lord of the Rings, the three movies are perfect and will always be the greatest movies of all time.

  • @solange1093
    @solange1093 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Will I watch every dang analysis video of the LOTR despite knowing a lot about them? Definitely!

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    I love how people call The Lord of the Rings the "Star Wars" of our Generation. No, they have it backwards. Star Wars was the "Lord of the Rings" of theirs. There is absolutely no comparison in the depth of the characters, races, legends and lore that Tolkien poured into this story. It seems like actual history not fantasy. It's impossible and fascinating to imagine any actors being anyone else than they came to be, especially LOTR. Vigo actually had never used a sword before this. One of his first scenes happened to be the sword fight on Weathertop. Lows of the Rings? What are those?

    • @julienperonne2347
      @julienperonne2347 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      LOTR is not the Star Wars of the 2000s, nor was Star Wars the LOTR of the 70s... That's a post-Hobbit interpretation that is supported by literally nothing, neither the context of the movies's pre-production and filming which is different, nor by the movies's themes, tone or structure...
      Star Wars works as a space opera, a mashup of genres and varied cultural archetypes of heroes and villains, which allows the main thesis of Lucas's worldbuilding, which is derived from Joseph Campbell's theory of the monomyth, to come through... In short, it's purposefully simple in its execution and themes, but elaborate in its visual worldbuilding which aims for something tonally very complex, a little shakespearian in the way it sometimes juxtaposes the eccentric (R2 and D2 being like secondary comic relief characters in a shakespearian play reacting to the main plot) and the highbrow with the more serious scenes that involve Jedi lore...
      LOTR is a novelistic work of fiction which is not trying to blend a lot of genres together to conjure up its mythical implications... It's pretty much a classical epic poem in the tone of The Iliad or Beowulf, and its more modern touches lie mainly in the novelistic structure which owes quite a bit to 19th century adventure novels, like Ivanhoe or the Three Musketeers, which are still examples of epic literature, with slightly more emphasis on character development... It's thoroughly highbrow epic fantasy from start to finish...
      Star Wars is a saga about stories and myths. The Lord of the Rings is a mythological story.

    • @benjaminbjrklund743
      @benjaminbjrklund743 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      true!

    • @williamhamilton1154
      @williamhamilton1154 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love this comment.

    • @tom9sling955
      @tom9sling955 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🎉 just

    • @francissellerdude
      @francissellerdude หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOTR + SW the 2 most epic film franchises of cinema

  • @lucyosborne9239
    @lucyosborne9239 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Viggo Mortensen wasn't a trained swordsman nor was he familiar with Tolkien's work. His son Henry knew enough of LOTR and convinced his dad to take the part. Mortensen read LOTR Trilogy while on the plane to New Zealand. In short, he arrived pretty much clueless and his first shoot was the swordfight on Weathertop. His trainer later said that in his career of training sword fighting, Mortensen was the best swordsman he trained and the fastest learner he had ever known. Mortensen stayed in character as much as he could and took his (extremely sharp) sword everywhere with him He was stopped on the street in Wellington while still in Aragorn's more seedy costume because he was carrying his sword and practising his fighting as he walked. The police thought he looked dangerous and arrested him. Indeed, by the end of two years, he considered that sword as his entry into the character of Aragorn. After this piece of narration, I found another video to watch. If one represents oneself as an expert enough to make a video giving information, you have to be an expert or you can simply make yourself look stupid.

    • @Nephilimfields
      @Nephilimfields หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I came here to say almost word for word the first part of your post. They even talk about it all in the BTS clips on the DVDs, and it's all well known lore after all these years.

    • @mckayhatch6723
      @mckayhatch6723 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I will also add. What the video talks about is how Viggo was familiar with a lot of Norse Viking sages. Tolkien took heavy inspiration from those. He was also familiar with other source material that Tolkien referenced for Lord of the Rings. Not the books themselves.

    • @nemanjap8768
      @nemanjap8768 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah this guy got some things wrong . He mentions how aragon is 87 because people of middle earth age slower which is just plain wrong

    • @calblb1
      @calblb1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i fully agree with you until you talk about him looking stupid, this is a truly excellent video with some minor errors, i would like to see you write and edit a video essay to this standard you twat

    • @sandyn3384
      @sandyn3384 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Aragorn wasn't a regular Middle Earth man, he's part Dunedin, a race of people thats blessed with longevity.

  • @avsambart
    @avsambart หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Remember we need to thank Viggo's son for being a massive LOTR fan and that persuaded him to take the role.

  • @captainjacksparrow1518
    @captainjacksparrow1518 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I've been looking for an hour + video essay about Lord of the Rings and finally... it is here.

    • @SkyWolfPirate
      @SkyWolfPirate หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can look them up there’s a few

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There’s a few. It’s incredible how after over 20yrs, people still have so much to say of these movies. They truly stand in a league of their own!

    • @keithbinder1244
      @keithbinder1244 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are so many!

    • @captainjacksparrow1518
      @captainjacksparrow1518 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@keithbinder1244 pls recommend me some good ones.

  • @WaqasAhmed-sh4cr
    @WaqasAhmed-sh4cr หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    You were overdoing the legolas part..

    • @jamart1895
      @jamart1895 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Agreed. His simple character development is fine with his relationship with gimli. He does not need something big that could take away the focus. And also I felt his acting was not that bad. I look at ROP series and Arondir never changes his voice and face.

  • @ThePaco1038
    @ThePaco1038 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Viggo knew nothing about LOTR…his son had to convince him to take it by telling him how good the story was. Wasn’t til after he got the job that he read the books.

    • @lordofdumpling
      @lordofdumpling 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So he didn't know a story his son knew - back in 2000?

    • @ThePaco1038
      @ThePaco1038 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lordofdumpling yes. That’s straight from his mouth in an interview.

    • @lordofdumpling
      @lordofdumpling 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ThePaco1038 I guess his mom read it to him then 😂

    • @ThePaco1038
      @ThePaco1038 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lordofdumpling a 10 yr old can’t read LOTR?? lol
      I’m sure he knew of it but hadn’t read them himself.

    • @lordofdumpling
      @lordofdumpling 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ThePaco1038 3rd grader reading lotr? Never seen it here lol

  • @annabizaro-doo-dah
    @annabizaro-doo-dah หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Liv Tyler: you don't have to put a sword in her hand to make her strong. Oh if only modern moviemakers would heed Ms. Tyler's wisdom, here.

  • @dcamaraman939
    @dcamaraman939 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    1.OBJECTIVELY wrong about Legolas. 2 Orlando played him VERY stoic. 3 If he had a "hollow character " , how is he SO memorable and a fan favorite?

  • @WilliamFisk-nf9qy
    @WilliamFisk-nf9qy หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    One of the things that bothered me was Gimli’s eventual relegation to a comedy sidekick character. The first movie got Gimli spot on and we learn a lot about the dwarves through his emotional moments in that movie. After Fellowship he’s just there to provide comedy relief.

    • @jenniedarling3710
      @jenniedarling3710 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even in fellowship of the ring Gimli's character was done dirty.

    • @histguy101
      @histguy101 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@jenniedarling3710next time you read the book, give Gimli his film voice in your head and you'll see how faithfully they did Gimli

    • @tigrousuperfiotte583
      @tigrousuperfiotte583 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well , when you watch LOTR with a young person, they love Gimli's character, it brings some lights moments in otherwise a very dark and desperate story ! As a fan of the books I didn't like it at first, but now I totally defend him, it makes lots of sense for a movie that need to have a wide appeal. Also he's warm and honest and brave as dwarves should be !

  • @logandasent296
    @logandasent296 หลายเดือนก่อน +227

    lows = the hobbit trilogy

    • @erjino
      @erjino หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's a different trilogy. It doesn't count.

    • @louistown7835
      @louistown7835 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      They do suck though​ lol@@erjino

    • @tsivilsඞ
      @tsivilsඞ หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@louistown7835The new additions sucked. Not the whole thing. The actual performances were still really great, especially in the accurate scenes.

    • @louistown7835
      @louistown7835 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @tsivils1987 yea i can agree with that, i really like the first film for how well Bag end was handled

    • @gauravw6947
      @gauravw6947 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Definitely not a low, it’s a good watch… It’s a different trilogy and wasn’t even PJ’s fault in the first place, who was roped in at the last minute and had to go ahead with Del Toro’s additions and vision, due to the lack of time for pre-production work…The studio insisted on making a trilogy out of a single book for profits, against PJ’s wishes…

  • @MithDragon
    @MithDragon หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Crazy how I just finished watching the trilogy for the first time and then you drop this. What oddly nice timing.

  • @michaelgarbett4088
    @michaelgarbett4088 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I watched the original trilogy for the first time 2 years ago. I’ve never been the same since. The Jackson trilogy is incredible and will likely stand the test of time for hundreds of years

    • @JackChurchill101
      @JackChurchill101 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you think that's good, try reading the books!

  • @calebbrown8941
    @calebbrown8941 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The fact that i literally paused this video, rewatched the two towers and return of the king and came back and watched this video 😅

  • @De4dPoo1
    @De4dPoo1 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All the lotr content is such a blessing. Thank you for the content.

  • @hellreza
    @hellreza หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I did not intend to finish this video in one viewing, but I just couldn't stop watching.

  • @IgweVII
    @IgweVII หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    The only low was when the end credits in the final film ended

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I always feel heartbroken when those credits roll for Return of The King. Even though I’ve watched through the trilogy well over 2 dozen times, it always feels like I just completed a lifelong journey with my best friends that I’ll never see again. No other movies have come close to evoking such emotion from me.

    • @IgweVII
      @IgweVII หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ComedyBros5 I completely agree

    • @jenniedarling3710
      @jenniedarling3710 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For me the big low point was when the Hobbits arrived home to a Shire just how they left it. I was so disappointed with the omission of the scouring of the Shire.

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jenniedarling3710 I'm okay with this though because we'd just journeyed through so many hardships and emotions. Nothing will top the calming, peaceful presence in my heart when they return to the Shire in the end. It helped create the beautiful ending that we got. If they'd returned home to a scoured Shire, it would've been brutal and wouldn't have fit the ending Peter was going for.

  • @TifffanyTaylor
    @TifffanyTaylor 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I feel like Legolas was NOT confirming his kills. He just shoots an arrow & assumes its a kill & moves on.
    Gimli was making sure the bodies stopped moving before he counted.

  • @tyronefisher2259
    @tyronefisher2259 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The perfect youtube video to fall asleep to.

  • @dantheories7276
    @dantheories7276 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The highs are the Misty Mountains and the lows are the Mines of Moria

  • @leftovercrass5210
    @leftovercrass5210 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How could anyone hate Liv Tyler or her character? We needed an elf woman and she is perfect.

  • @strawberryparfaitbelle
    @strawberryparfaitbelle หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As time passed, I have grown to appreciate Orlando's Legolas (in the original trilogy at least). Since he didn't have a lot of dialogue, I think it shows that he did put a lot of thought and effort in his physical performance. He nailed being a Tolkien elf, approachable and present but there's a certain aloofness to him. It makes me think a lot of Finrod in The Silmarillion. In fact, his is my favorite elven performance now, with Cate Blanchett and Marton Csokas as Galadriel and Celeborn coming in second.
    Also, Frodo IS the chief hero. That should have been clear as early as when he decided to set out from Bag End to bring the Ring to Rivendell. Tolkien talks about this, and while I don't agree with a lot of the decisions PJ and co. made with Frodo's character, I still think they did good in conveying just how incredible Frodo's heroism is. Letter 246 tells us Tolkien thought quite the opposite. Sam might be the most heroic character, but the main hero has always been Frodo. You need to take into account Frodo's arc and its importance to the overall story compared to Sam's arc. It's a bit of a revisionist idea to say Sam is the real hero, and I blame the movies for that.
    Lastly, "the chief hero" Tolkien is referring to is Aragorn, not Sam. You need to consider what comes before that sentence to understand the actual context. That quote is comparing Sam's rustic, simple love to Aragorn's grand and noble romance. That's not to say Sam wasn't one of the chief heroes, because he is, it's just that that quote was used incorrectly and does not actually support the argument.

  • @Bhenderson0001
    @Bhenderson0001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't have time to watch the whole thing and came across it by accident, but I enjoyed what I did see of this docu and learnt a lot of things I am glad I now know. Thank you.

  • @AlexanderSchröder777
    @AlexanderSchröder777 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Which lows?

    • @makchot3263
      @makchot3263 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too long

    • @roel.vinckens
      @roel.vinckens หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Not long enough.

    • @gauravw6947
      @gauravw6947 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It was too short…😂 I wished the movie kept going on and on…

    • @Mel-xk9go
      @Mel-xk9go หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@makchot3263*Not long enough, we wish each movies last 8 hours and more

  • @runforrestrun1965
    @runforrestrun1965 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No, Virgo didn’t know almost anything about LOTR before he accepted the part, on the insistence of his son, who told him to do it. Viggo started reading the books on the plane flight down to NZ.

  • @kobrraful
    @kobrraful หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    to touch on the "Aragorn was 87 years old" thing, Aragorn was also a Dunedain. they were blessed with long life to live 3 times that of a normal man. Aragorn at 87 is basically only half way there

  • @JackChurchill101
    @JackChurchill101 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The weird thing about cutting Christopher Lee from the Isengard scene is that this is the only time his character was Meant to appear.
    (Outside of the 'Scouring' storyline which everyone accepts is too much for films).
    There were two films of Jackson-invented dialogue and scenes for Saruman and Christopher Lee was a life-long fan off the novels, - to cut his only scene where he actually acted a scene from Tolkien's novel may have cut harder into him than people realise.

    • @abnercliff9624
      @abnercliff9624 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That scene is not from the books. Saruman does not fall from the tower.

  • @keithbinder1244
    @keithbinder1244 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don't know if others have said this yet or not: but Tolkien originally wrote the Lord of the Rings as 6 books, not one. It was always intended to be six smaller books, which is VERY clear when you read the books.

    • @Dartagnan88
      @Dartagnan88 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you specify? I clearly see it in the first movie but the other two?

    • @keithbinder1244
      @keithbinder1244 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dartagnan88 Have you not read the books? This comment is in reference to the video saying Tolkien meant for it to be published as a single volume, which is not factually accurate. He meant for them to be six smaller novels. In the books they are clearly marked as such.

    • @jenniedarling3710
      @jenniedarling3710 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I would have loved to see six book accurate films.

    • @keithbinder1244
      @keithbinder1244 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jenniedarling3710that would be absolutely wild! Especially with how half the cast would have full films off. And Aragorn would have no character arc other than “I’m ready to be King of Gondor” and the slow march to that throne. No elves at Helm’s Deep. Fellowship would have been an insane two movies! So good!

  • @jakeylee.mp4
    @jakeylee.mp4 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    14:54 “You don’t have to put a sword in her hands to make her strong”
    Such a powerful quote. I wish film makers today understood this….

  • @slythawyrda
    @slythawyrda หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    imagine what we would have if the original del toro Hobbit films had been made. it sounds like it was very promising.

    • @avsambart
      @avsambart หลายเดือนก่อน

      imagine what we would have if the studio and execs hadn't kept butting into Peter Jackson's vision for the Hobbit films too.

  • @Derpy1969
    @Derpy1969 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not having read any of the LOTR books, much of the outrage over changes is completely lost on me.

    • @JackChurchill101
      @JackChurchill101 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's fair.
      I watched the first two films when they came out, and then read the books to know what happens next.
      I was so eager to see Denethor's battle strategy unfold, and Imrahil's Swan knights and the sons of Elrond go to war with the grey company, and the relentless march to the black gates, - the last army of men, constantly harassed by enemy skirmishes and Nazgul, going to their doom like marching into hell itself.
      All cut.
      If you don't know, you don't know. The films are still good in their own right, but there's so much more than 'Bombadil' that they cut.

    • @jenniedarling3710
      @jenniedarling3710 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Please read or listen to the books, it's the only way to get the real depth of characters and plot and fully appropriate this story.

  • @Persources
    @Persources หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Green Steeet Hooligans is so underrated

  • @happysaffa8871
    @happysaffa8871 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can you imagine anyone else except Viggo playing Aragorn? Fuck no!

  • @ryanbradford6227
    @ryanbradford6227 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    honestly, i didn’t know there was any backlash with Arwen back in the day…. if only they knew about the prime series

  • @rvt2239
    @rvt2239 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'll never have another cinematic experience like watching the Ride of the Rohirrim in the theater in 2003.

  • @michaelapodaca3239
    @michaelapodaca3239 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What Liv Tyler said about Arwen, about how she realized the character doesn’t need a sword to be strong, made me immediately think of how the ROP portrayal of Galadriel as a “warrior princess”.

  • @bodsaru
    @bodsaru 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @ 4:05 in the behind the scenes making of, Peter Jackson said Viggo didn't have sword training experience before actually, that's one of the reasons Viggo took his sword with him everywhere and practiced tons. His first main scene to shoot was the big fight against the nazgul at Weathertop, so big fight scene.
    Viggo also wasn't super familiar with the books, having not read them prior to taking the role (obviously all the cast read a studied after getting the part, copies of the books were always around set). He knew of them, but it was his son, a big fan, who convinced him to take the role.
    Townsend was removed for a number of reasons, one his passion wasn't there as you mentioned nor his work ethic AND they wanted a more mature look for Aragorn, Peter Jackson only realised the later after the first day of shooting and seeing it I believe.
    I highly recommend the Making Of The Lord of the Rings!! It's on TH-cam somewhere too I believe. Only slight inaccuracy that I noticed.

  • @lucyosborne9239
    @lucyosborne9239 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another comment for you about Iarwain ben-Adar, in common speech, Tom Bombadil, it is said in the appendices of The Fall of Gondolin that Iarwain was the eldest and fatherless, that he was older than the Ents (Treebeard states this in the book version of Two Towers). Even they didn't know where he came from. My personal take on Ol' Tom is that he's meant to be an enigma as with so many of Tolkien's characters. Many of Prof. Tolkien's works were scribbled on bits of paper or are contained in letters to his editor. Christopher Tolkien later went through hs father's enormous volume of writings of Middle-earth and states in the prologue to The Fall of Gondolin that many of his father's character's names and stories changed through the years starting in the trenches of The Somme in WW1 and extending into the 1950's until his death. Organizing JRR's work was his son's life's work and it was might indeed. He lived well past his 90th birthday, respectable even for a hobbit. Those works are now considered canon though some of the books compiled by Christopher were edited by using the scraps and names plus stories that changed with time. Ol' Tom was one such character and therefore there is no set role or place for him other than in The Old Forest on the borders of Buckland. Read the Fellowship of the Ring and you'll get as good a description of who and what he is simply from his conversations with the four hobbits and Tolkien's descriptions of him and his behaviour. We know he could speak with animals and only the very wise can do so. His Lady Golberry is his only care, and for her, he cares very well. The feared and terrible Barrow-wights fled at Tom's approach, so we know he represented "good" vs. "evil". He can speak with trees and with water lilies and every living creature of Middle-earth. My guess is that he was created by Eru as a template for his further creations, at least I'd like to think so. He is perhaps the forebearer to the Beornings who share many skills and talents with Tom, but who knows? Who is he to you? That's what's truly important in a work of fiction such as this. It is the cord strung within that matters in legendary fiction and has no other or greater, which is considerable IMHO, purpose. How does Arwen's tragic story make you feel? Do you identify with her choices? And what about her grandmother Galadriel? I for one would never have been able to make the choices with which she is confronted, but then, to paraphrase Mithrandir in Fellowship, "That's not for us to decide. All we have decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." And isn't that the real lesson?

  • @beorbeorian150
    @beorbeorian150 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Legolas adds much more than given credit for. He was Aragorn’s most trusted member of the fellowship. The Gimli relationship was much more developed in the books for sure , but it was also important in the movie. Galadriel helped build that friendship. Gimli and Legolas in the movies is key to a lot of interactions with others.

  • @zsoltbartus169
    @zsoltbartus169 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Nerdstalgic goes bullshįt again

  • @nickankhazali2995
    @nickankhazali2995 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Putting a sword in her hand isn't the only way to make her strong", is a quote the Rings of Power showrunners should have taken to note.

  • @ForestStump5032
    @ForestStump5032 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    green street is literally his best most real and epic performance ...... its an awesome movie ...... apart from that one great video

  • @hockeygrrlmuse
    @hockeygrrlmuse หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "A little Bombadil" is emphatically not what the Amazon mess needs

  • @ericsahagun5344
    @ericsahagun5344 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My God I'm so glad I never went to go see this movie with a guy like you cuz the fire agreed with you instead of this being one of the most favorite movies I've ever seen in my life It would have been a total and complete bummer Minute 21 and everything you're saying about Legolas as far as I'm concerned his character was perfect not having to change he was a guy of action who let his skill speak for him not his mouth I'm glad he wasn't some kind of jokester I'm glad he was stoic in his character but mighty in his skill and ability That's what makes him so cool but that goes right over your head doesn't it!

  • @captainjacksparrow1518
    @captainjacksparrow1518 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Excuse me... You can't just drop a 100+ minute banger of a video outta knowwhere and act like nothing happened.

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what I’m saying. I’m gobsmacked

    • @thomasagabaonyango7548
      @thomasagabaonyango7548 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yoh… I can hardly breathe! 😅✊🏾

    • @doihatd4595
      @doihatd4595 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's 82 minutes tho?
      OPEN THE SCHOOLS

  • @timpatrickhanna
    @timpatrickhanna 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When I first saw the theatrical cut of The Two Towers, I was very disappointed that the confrontation between Gandalf and Saruman was not in the movie. I think it's one of the iconic parts of the book. It gives me chills every time I read it. Without the confrontation, that scene feels like it just cuts off before they are done.
    Omitting that was as bad as Jackson's portrayal of Gandalf meeting the Witch King when he rides into Minas Tirith. Jackson's Gandalf is a wimp who had his staff broken, and that's not what happened in the book, which is covered in another iconic passage. Gandalf was considerably more powerful than the Witch King. Aragorn fought him off, along with four other Nazgul, with a sword and a torch. The idea that he could just have his way with Gandalf is absurd.
    "In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl. A great black shape against the fires beyond he loomed up, grown to a vast menace of despair. In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face.
    All save one. There waiting, silent and still in the space before the Gate, sat Gandalf upon Shadowfax: Shadowfax who alone among the free horses of the earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast as a graven image in Rath Dínen.
    "You cannot enter here," said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. "Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!"
    The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. The red fires shone between it and the mantled shoulders vast and dark. From a mouth unseen there came a deadly laughter.
    "Old fool!" he said. "Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!" And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade.
    Gandalf did not move. And in that very moment, away behind in some courtyard of the city, a cock crowed. Shrill and clear he crowed, recking nothing of war nor of wizardry, welcoming only the morning that in the sky far above the shadows of death was coming with the dawn.
    And as if in answer there came from far away another note. Horns, horns, horns, in dark Mindolluin's sides they dimly echoed. Great horns of the north wildly blowing. Rohan had come at last.”

  • @dspencer1969
    @dspencer1969 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Shall I describe it to you or would you like me to find you a box?" Like so many Uruk Hai, I died🤣

  • @kimstryitchannel3903
    @kimstryitchannel3903 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sam is absolutely the best character! I say that every time I watch the movies! Sean Astin does an amazing job with the role but he truly is the hero in the story!

  • @theManishMuse
    @theManishMuse หลายเดือนก่อน

    Legolas was comic relief for the kids (as a foil for Gimli) and eye candy for the teens! I was 18 at the time and lovvvvvved him.

  • @arminxvs3372
    @arminxvs3372 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    14:50
    "No need for a sword to make her strong"
    Something modern Hollywood does not understand.

  • @williamhamilton1154
    @williamhamilton1154 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the movies more than anything largely because eod the performances, and no criticism I have for them will change that.
    But it’s super weird that they took Legolas and Gimli and pretty much swapped their personalities.

  • @PJSO
    @PJSO หลายเดือนก่อน

    @ 4:18 We have to thank Viggo's son, Henry for convincing him to sign on to the project. Without him, Viggo would never had said yes.

  • @GrainneMhaol
    @GrainneMhaol หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excuse you, I love Deep Impact.

  • @scargs
    @scargs หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    WRONG! viggo wasnt a trained swordsman, he had never held a sword in his hand before the weathertop scene!

  • @ryanbradford6227
    @ryanbradford6227 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    we don’t have to put a sword in her hand to make her strong”
    Amazon are you listening?

  • @jimluebke3869
    @jimluebke3869 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "The rustic love between Sam and Rosie (nowhere elaborated)" Um. unless you count the family trees in the appendices, which note they married 1 May, 1420 (Shire-Reckoning).
    They go on to note Elanor "the Fair" (born 24 March 1421, SR), Frodo (b. 1423), Rose (b. 1425), Merry (b. 1427), Pippin (b. 1429), Goldilocks (b. 1431), Hamfast (b. 1432), Daisy (b. 1433), Primrose (b. 1435), Bilbo (b. 1436), Ruby (b. 1438), Robin (b. 1440), and Tolman (b. 1442).
    "Rustic" is one way you could put it, I suppose. "Go Sam!" is another, and "Wow, Rosie, congratulations!".

  • @glemcarvalho3002
    @glemcarvalho3002 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank God that Aragorn was cast as Aragorn

  • @infamcus
    @infamcus หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bolg was actually one of the main antagonists in the book. He’s killed by Beorn in the battle of the five armies. It’s his father, Azog, who was in the movie but not in the book.

  • @bassdroppointsource
    @bassdroppointsource หลายเดือนก่อน

    One correction: Bolg is actually in the Hobbit. He’s the leader of the Goblin army avenging their king’s death at the Battle of Five Armies. Azog is only a part of the original Goblin Wars from the LoTR appendices

  • @Xtianium
    @Xtianium หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am here to hype up Green Street Hooligans. I love that movie!

  • @willwetherington
    @willwetherington หลายเดือนก่อน

    Frodo doesnt even say Legolas' name when they all come in to see him at the end in Rivendale

  • @chrisscrump4962
    @chrisscrump4962 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You dropped the Tea😅😂

  • @Mar032891
    @Mar032891 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can’t believe I watched an all time high video

  • @TheKingRusher27
    @TheKingRusher27 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ayyooooo Gimli is on shambles at 21:16 wtf xd

  • @Matser666777
    @Matser666777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "warrior princess wasn't what we wanted to portray" yea you see what happened to Galadriel

  • @pablor3138
    @pablor3138 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Townsend marrying Charlize Therone is more than fair compensation.

  • @beorbeorian150
    @beorbeorian150 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Russel Crow would have been amazing , but Vigo was great. His approach, love of the movie and fellow actors is well known.

  • @briandeluca4318
    @briandeluca4318 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:25 as a kid seeing this in the theater I thought the reason why there was a gap was because Lego uses his bow to shoot an orc, and I thought that was odd even then

  • @d0ntreply
    @d0ntreply หลายเดือนก่อน

    we all now know, veggo is forever the perfect casting as aragorn. but imagine russell crow as aragorn. first as maximus and the aragorn, he would've had the most legendary career.

  • @brandonface917
    @brandonface917 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think they meant shooting lows. This film has no lows

  • @dplunk13
    @dplunk13 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What I learned is that Stuart Townsend, despite failing miserably to star in one of the greatest trilogies ever, is still winning bigtime in life by marrying Charlize Theron. You bow to no one, sir.

    • @williamhamilton1154
      @williamhamilton1154 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait what!?!?

    • @ivana547
      @ivana547 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They were never married. They dated for 10 years. He does Hallmark movies now

    • @williamhamilton1154
      @williamhamilton1154 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ivana547 yeah. I don’t know the guy so no offence to his character. But I never liked him as an actor.

    • @ivana547
      @ivana547 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@williamhamilton1154 yup, just another pretty boy. Does well in the Hallmark movies set on Ireland 🤣

    • @williamhamilton1154
      @williamhamilton1154 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ivana547 discount Gerard Butler.

  • @Bhenderson0001
    @Bhenderson0001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm back again. What is it about this film, and book of course. I read the book a long time ago, in fact I can say the book was responsible for honing my bad reading ability at the time. But this tale just seems to be full of everything we need in the days that are coming, I sense that we will cling to the things that lift our spirit in the times to come;. I bet Tolkien never foresaw how important his work would be in the future, possibly playing an important role in keeping hope alive and keeping the belief that there are things worth fighting for.

  • @pdgf
    @pdgf ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Townsend’s feminine eyebrows and pointy chin were his downfall 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @FerGalicia
    @FerGalicia หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saruman, the iconic MAGICIAN lol

  • @DavidWright0301
    @DavidWright0301 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Butter reference 👍🏻

  • @realK1
    @realK1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can take a lot of the hobbit trilogy, but the elves jumping over the shield wall makes me crazy

  • @ChristopherM720
    @ChristopherM720 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Actually they could have given Legolas and Gimli more time together...bc the friending of a dwarf, to the point of Gimli being allowed to go into the West. That really is the core of his relationship process. It really is the issue of Bloom's performance. And I wonder if that caused Jackson to do less with him.

  • @kaguya6900
    @kaguya6900 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd agree that Sam is the main character at the end of the story, but when it comes to the books, not from the start. It's obvious that the main character in Fellowship and even a good portion of The Two Towers is Frodo. Not only is the story told mainly from his point of view, but he also has most of the agency in the story. Ithilian could be split between them. Frodo still has the most agency there, but from Shelob on, Sam has taken over the main character slot.
    But no, Sam is not the main character (hero) for the entire story.
    I don't disagree that cutting Tom Bombadil from the story was inevitable, I disagree with your conclusions as to why. I think the cut had to be there because of time and time alone. (Same for the Scouring of the Shire). I also think that Sam's "third point of view" and Tom's "third point of view" are very different.
    That said, the thing I think should NOT have been cut is the Barrow Downs events. PJ could have made it the Hobbits themselves getting out of the Barrow Downs, but they really should have been able to get their knives from former Arnor. That's the whole reason why Merry was able to stab the Witch King. His dagger was specifically made by craftsmen of Arnor to break the Witch King's spell. I think that part should have been included.

  • @avsambart
    @avsambart หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Y'all Legolas is good in the movie. Stop nit-picking. You can obviously see the emotions in him at the right times, you can see the respect he has for Aragorn, you can see the friendship between him and Gimli grow. Sure Orlando Bloom isn't the best actor. But don't be a d*ck. Even a child can see Legolas' emotions and relationship changes. Being able to see this on screen with the little dialogue and scenes he has, is very skillful on the whole team's part.

  • @Pingwinho
    @Pingwinho หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine having the decision making of Stuart Townsend 😂😂😂

  • @YanickaQuilt
    @YanickaQuilt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What??? No mention of Elijah Wood Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency ? This is a disgrace 😅😅😅

  • @TheLittleLife
    @TheLittleLife หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the king of the bling

  • @joshmciver4847
    @joshmciver4847 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love hearing stories about a terrible casting decision by the studio, the actor being a diva, the rest of the cast blowing up, then the studio basically saying... "fine, here's your perfect actor... Well pay big money for them"

  • @NickWard-f6l
    @NickWard-f6l 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shame they didnt go with Glorfindel ...with the river scene ....but thats a small gripe ...great movies though .

  • @wafflingmean4477
    @wafflingmean4477 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While I respect that they kept Arwen out of the Fellowship to honour Tolkien's work as it was written, I wish Tolkien himself had written that Arwen had gone with them, or reunited at some later point. I know the elves didn't fight at Helms Deep in the books, but something like that would have been an ideal time to bring Arwen back in. Perhaps if Tolkien had had her reunite with Gandalf on the road to find Eomer and the Rohirrim.

  • @prettierwhenyoucry
    @prettierwhenyoucry หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another analysis of lotr... yes please

  • @johnnyhellkite6347
    @johnnyhellkite6347 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not that people from middle earth age slower, Aragorn is a descendant of the Numenorians. They were tall af and lived longer lives than normal humans. They were favored people by Aluvitar until they betrayed him

  • @122josh
    @122josh 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it bad that I don't have any lows for LOTR, it's legit one of the most perfect trilogy of films ever made and I never get tired of revisiting them, The Hobbit however is a different story entirely 😂

  • @phillafco
    @phillafco หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:00:13 : Bolg isnt a movie only character! He leads the army of orcs from Gundabad to the Battle of Five Armies and is then killed by Beorn.

  • @ChristopherM720
    @ChristopherM720 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Had they added Arwen into Helms Deep they would have lost the importance of the trio's adventure and bonding that happens in the second film. In the way the JJ Abram's Star Trek films tacked Uhura into the Kirk/Spock/Bones trio. It is a failure to understand what those trios represent and importance of friendship and male camaderie.
    I'd also add, you can deepen your love from distance. Tolkien went 2 years without seeing his wife during the Great War. While I hated Liv Tyler's portrayal of Arwen, showing the dreams and her struggle praying for him in Rivendell actually worked. Thankfully Jackson made the change.

  • @MartiniBlankontherest
    @MartiniBlankontherest หลายเดือนก่อน

    13 minutes in. Alreaady forgot the name of the original Aragorn😂

  • @goodtimesgamingtm1316
    @goodtimesgamingtm1316 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wouldn’t say Haldirs death is useless. They establish he and Aragorn as friends in the fellowship of the ring and it makes a little sense that if lady Galadriel was going to send anyone to the aid of Aragorn haldir would volunteer. Arwen being there would’ve been way to on the nose and while I think the movies improve on her character her and Aragorn being separated for most of the movies only shows the strength of their love as he denies Eowyns advances despite at the time thinking Arwen would be leaving middle earth anyway. It’s a difficult puzzle I know but Tolkien wasn’t sexist he came from a time where it was VERY taboo to send a woman to war and rightly so not because of their inability but because of men’s desire to protect them. It makes eowyn stand out all the more where it would’ve overshadowed her if Arwen was there.

  • @XoRaider
    @XoRaider 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    45:06
    “That was like 8 years ago, asshole”
    “People don’t forget”
    Elijah as Frodo is the equivalent of Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter. But I highly respect the artistic choices and direction he wanted to pursue. I personally hella liked green street hooligans.