Peter signed the dash of my VH back in 1997 at a car show. When he sat in my car he said it brought back memories. I asked him if he wished he had continued with the dealer team. He said he really wanted to. I didn't mention the box of rocks. Was a shame.
The polariser had foil,a gel substance and something else in it.One of Brocks Apprentices went to my trade school (Richmond Tech) 1986-1989 he actually had 1 in his car....Really weird days but much fun
Miss you MR Peter Brock.. I purchased my VC HDT in 1987 from a couple in Melbourne that couldn’t afford to run it and I before I trucked it to NSW you signed the glove box and engine bay. Since your passing the car has only seen daylight a few times and with only 38,000 on the clock this vehicle looks showroom condition I know one day it will help fund my retirement.
“They said to me if you Peter Brock announce this car at the end of this week we’ll withdraw all support for you, we’ll I’ve gone ahead and I’ve announced it” Legend😂
By the time the Director was released, the IRS setup was the issue more so than the Polariser (ADR compliance being what it is), so it was somewhat ironic that once Brock released the car and scuppered his relationship with Holden's, all the Directors he sold (and there weren't many) all had live rear axles.
His downfall was his ego and the fact that he thought he was a businessman!!! Thats where it all turned to shit....energy polarizer my arse...iv seen him try to explain how it works many times....its actually embarrassing....as dick johnson said....brocky beleived his own bullshit!! Shame though.
the vk with the aussie flag on the roof with the group a kit is why i LOVE VKS and put the vk on the map. if my vk isnt sold this year selling my sv6 wagon n going to do a retro livery on the vk n go all out old school on it ready for the track like back in the day.
Miss my VK caliais 304, onto a 4 speed, headers, hdt spoiler hdt front skirt and grill looked and sounded like a beast. Never a issue with that digital dash either. Yes it was a 304 they shortened the stroke to be under 5ltrs at 4987cc the 308 was 5044cc
@@MJTAUTOMOTIVE you better check with GM - after they through in 100’s millions - they let Holden go broke . Sales the last few years were over 30 to 40% down year on year . Selling rebadged Daewoo’s didn’t work out to well . The Holden CEO said they need people to buy their cars / not housos & bogans who buy Holden T -shirts .
Lachie Reynen very true , the group A in the VK was the last one made to race spec sporting the 307 Chevy in a 4 speed , the only difference between that production car and the one Peter raced was the production VK group A had 5 seats and no roll cage and no sponsor colours , other then that everything was the same as he raced it on the track. Hard to find an original one these days unfortunately but if ya had one in sitting under wraps you could call it priceless
ayrproductions lol oh really why don’t you go back and check again , that’s if you even checked at all ? The 4.9Lt 307 Chev engine was used in the 1985 VK Group A SS , I’m not a fan of Holden nor someone that thinks he knows everything about them like most do but I know that car because I’ve Driven it many times and I know the man that owns Number 243/500 build and it’s under 32,000 ks on the cloak , nothings been modified or changed as he is the original owner also just so you know you couldn’t just buy that particular car back then from your dealer you needed to be someone that Holden would offer the car to first . so pls tell me more about the 304 lol 😂
@@oldfaithfuliii5997 No, the 4.9 was the Holden 304 which was used up until 1999 (2000 in VS series III), not the 307 Chev. It's a pretty common mistake to be made though. The 304 was the reduced capacity version of the 308 for Group A so the cars could run at a lower weight. You need to check facts yourself and clearly your "mate who owns a VK Group A SS" has no idea what's under his own bonnet.
ayrproductions yeah since 1985 he’s been scratching his head , wow you really are a muppet btw why don’t you go and check it out and in the mean time tell me what the VN group A SS had under the hood just so I know I’m not going to waste time with ya nxt stupid reply
The only thing that makes a car run better than an energy polariser is if you add a couple of drops of oil from the horn of a unicorn into the petrol tank.
Peter doing his own thing didn’t always work out. Gotta give the guy credit for following his own heart at all cost. That director model was a horrible looking thing.
@@leoncutajar1369 I was there at the time, that was the ugliest car I had ever seen, it still is It looked bad in all photographs and even in real life on the road. Always wanted to have a go in one though probably a fun car if unleashed.
i rode in a VK group A SS when i was 18. It did 90km/h in 1st and 165km/h in second. Perfect power band and gearing. That thing absolutely flew, great car and Im no Aussie car fan
@@leighhudson8584 no argument there. The Engergy Polarizer was the heart and soul of all those problems. That and his getting into bed (figuratively speeking) with Dr Feelgood, aka Eric Dowker.
Peter Brock was one of Australia's best drivers. Unfortunately this was one of his major stuff up's. I can't believe he pressed on with the idea on these poloraisers which had no proof that they even did anything. The were in my opinion nothing more than Bullshit suido science. But even worse was he released a car without approval from GM. That sent him broke. Lesson dont attack the hand that feeds you because it doesn't end well. Apart from that I personally liked Peter Brock I had the pleasure of meeting him once. When I was a young teenager.
I still have my VL Director I purchased from Muirs at Ashfield with the Momo upgrade from GM in mint condition with only 15k on the clock.. The car has been sitting in my garage since 1991 and has never been out since Im seriously thinking about selling this classic because I think it belongs to an enthusiast they will appreciate it
The Polarizer was only a smoke screen to hide what was really happening. GMH wanted full control of HDT Special Vehicles. They finally saw the market potential that Brock & Harvey had created with the enhanced performance vehicles. The split was ugly for that reason. Brock saw the potential to Export his Performance vehicles That was territory GMH hadn't yet conquered, they were exporting engine's but not complete cars yet. So for a small operation to be successful in exporting it's performance vehicles & the parent company not having yet explored that avenue you can see why GMH wanted full control of HDT Special Vehicles.
What a man he had everything in the palm of his hand and that's where it stayed did not sellout to anyone a true legend he legacy will continue on he will always be the king of the mountain
Vic the front bar of most hotels are full of blokes who stand up for what they believe in, it doesn’t make them right, just stubborn. When the unload a gob full of their bullshit, don’t argue, just pat them on the back and say enjoy your night mate. In Brocky’s case his stubbornness cost him a business partnership worth millions. He needed to listen and bide his time but it wasn’t in his nature to do that. As successful as he was he was human and got it wrong sometimes but his arrogance wouldn’t allow him to accept that
My god, They were never his cars, This was a bizarre time but not Brocks best for sure , to be Frank he looked a bit nuts . He was marketing a Holden , GMH just said don’t fit the polariser . Sorry I Am getting to get attacked but the doctor in the pits was never a good look,Brock shot himself in the foot. HSV was setup by Tom Walkinshaw after he successfully bid for the contract & from day 1 became an outstanding contributor to GMH’s sales & future success with John Harvey doing a brilliant job. I
miss the r32 gtr skyline that come along and rocked my world thought v8s were great.how a 2.6 litre rice burner come along and started dictating Bathurst
Brock's Ego made him think he WAS HOLDEN...he even thought he actually BÙILT the Car's...when all he did was Stick plastic bits and bolted other bits on a Car that was already Mass Produced...I'm almost certain he thought Holden would fold without him...he was WRONG
So your one of those guys who thinks a man's failures can be blamed on the women he's with? A strong man knows bs when he sees it and doesn't indulge it. Face it, PB had an ego and whomever put the pseudo science shit in front of him just gave him the excuse he was looking for to do what he really wanted to do. Once he made that choice he was too blinded by his Peter perfect image to see he was screwing up. As a man I get real fucking tired of men blaming there shortcomings on their women. I've had great girlfriends and a few crazy ones too. I knew to not indulge the crazy ones craziness and if that meant they left (which they did) than better alone than in bad company. At the end of the day, if strong men really exist we are responsible for what we do. Only the weak blame their failures on someone else.
I had a VK Calais Director and it has been the best car that I have ever owned. Brock bit the hand that fed him and he paid the price. His family infidelity finally led to his demise and death.
and when brock came back to hsv holdens factory race team, they gave him a shit car, hsv took brocks sponsorship money, and did all the development and put the best new parts on craig lowndes car, brock was not even allowed any input on his own cars setup development , he got screwed again by gmh
Only one good thing came out of all of this and it was "V8 TILL 98" You can only have so many tickets on yourself before people realize no one is at the show...... In other words don't believe the hype!
I was a level playing field, every driver could cross nominate if they chose to and the team was running more than one car. So Brock won.fair and square and absolutely in accordance with the cams regulations at the time. So you are factually wrong and it makes no difference how much you bitch and moan nothing is going to change that.....you'll always be wrong
Back then the rules allowed it and everyone with a two car team could do the same thing. Just had to have every driver practice in each car. Dick Johnson did the same thing when he took three Sierras. Only issue was that when he actually tried to, he couldn't fit in the seat.
+Andy Robson 1. How do you know this? 2. Where do you know it from? 3.How have you verified it? 4.provide your evidence .... Or your testimony shall be dismissed as hearsay
@@andrew_koala2974 It was stated in the book "The Rise and Fall of Peter Brock" which had John Harvey as a contributor and described the situation in great detail. Therefore, it is documented.
@@leighpiasente1734 HSV did not belong to Holden, it belonged to TWR and they both, (Brock-HDT/TWR-HSV), provided Holden with race cars and a team in return of using Holden as the base of their own road going products. Both businesses were ran the same way and were completely separate companies to Holden. Holden purchased the HSV brand in 2002 in order to save it from the fallout of the TWR collapse when the Arrows F1 team sent TWR broke.
Your on the money, and with HSV + GMH coming to contractual terms very quickly and smoothly seamlessly in essence continuing on as if it were a relatively minor bump bringing enhanced models to the public compliant to all bodies. The left field media regarding Peter Brock being vegetarian, crystals, pyramids, meditation whirlwind they continued on with night after night focusing on implying he had fallen out of the crazy tree branch by branch. This turning on Brock a national hero so quickly and unbalanced with a GMH HSV bias makes you wonder. I was a major Ford fan back then loving the Hardtops and remember it clearly thinking the enemy Brock had been hard done by at Holden with the distinct feeling there had been some head office corporate and engineering departments executives that had turned the knife in Brock having had their individual noses out of joint from Brock's direct nature or jealousy for his public recognition when they were running the race teams collaborating designing & building race cars when Peter was the major highly succesful poster boy for Holden 🤔.
Peter had a vision which would have made Holden right up there in the world stage, the VL Director was well before it's time and was built to compete against the likes of BMW. From memory it had independent rear end which wasn't bought into Aussie cars for years later and that's another insight into what he was trying to do. Personally I don't believe the energy polariser is what was his undoing, I think there were tensions between both parties for sometime and Holden used the polariser as an excuse to try to stop him. Who knows what would have happened if Holden actually embraced his vision but it was very sad to see the two end up how they did back then, perhaps it was a sign of Holdens arrogance that would grow even bigger in the distant future which eventually became their undoing. 2 great Aussie Icons are now gone.
The VL Director had components which hadn't been ADR approved (most notably the optional IRS) which is why Holden cut him off. If there had been any claims made against them over something Brock had put on the cars, Holden would've been the ones sued and it would've destroyed them. They gave him plenty of opportunity to provide a car for them to test but he ignored them.
@@ayrproductions The relationship had been going sour for some time before the director and this car or what was on it is not the reason Holden cut him off. He knew where the relationship was going so he ignored their directions. His plan for HDT was to build a quality road car up there to compete with the likes of BMW but Holden didn't share that vision and were happy to build the typical average family car. That IRS may not have been ADR approved but if HDT had gone forward with the production of the director then everything on those cars would have been approved before going into full time production including the IRS. The IRS came in a few years later so no doubt it would have been made ADR approved in time but as I said it showed he was a forward thinker and well before his time.
@@knight2425 the release of the VL Director was the final straw in the whole thing. The Polarizer was what initially set it off, though. HDT did go ahead with production on the car, just in much smaller numbers than what Brock would've liked, and IRS was an option on them (not many were actually sold with IRS, though). There were items on those cars that did not see any ADR testing as Brock thought that since the IRS was similar to what Opel was using on the Senator in Europe at the time that it didn't need to be. Holden gave Brock ample opportunity to send them a Director for them to test and he completely ignored them. So it was released without adhering to the appropriate ADRs it required to. This is something that has been documented in Bill Tuckey's book "The Rise and Fall of Peter Brock" which goes into great detail about it and had John Harvey as a contributor. I suggest you read it in order to realise what was actually going on within HDT at the time. The IRS which Holden added to VPs as an option wasn't the same as what Brock put in the Director and was extensively tested over a number of years, until they got it right.
It might have done well in Europe against the BMW with a modified RB30 but with the carby fed boat anchor would have flopped both is sales and on the track
Peter Brock started believing the media. He was like my father - he thought that all women were fair game. Adultery will get you in the end. Be not deceived, God is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. He paid with his life. This is what sin does. Sin will snuff out your life. The Lord Jesus the Christ died for us so that we can go to haven if we REPENT.
There is not such thing as a non sinner 'for all have sinned and have come short of the glory of God'. We are all sinners. The difference is that those who realise that they are sinners and believe in the Lord Jesus the Christ, they repent (Change their ways) and are forgiven. From there onward the will of God is the most important thing in a persons life. We all make mistakes. A real 'Holy Spirit filled' Christian is protected from the enemy. There are the times of testing and many Christians have been martyred for not renouncing the name of the Lord Jesus the Christ of Nazareth.
And bring in the APV Group 5i just to stick it to GM The APV had more power 💪🏼 Eventually bought out by the bigger money corporation of Walkinshaw I own a APV group5i VN Commodore
Peter signed the dash of my VH back in 1997 at a car show. When he sat in my car he said it brought back memories. I asked him if he wished he had continued with the dealer team. He said he really wanted to. I didn't mention the box of rocks. Was a shame.
The polariser had foil,a gel substance and something else in it.One of Brocks Apprentices went to my trade school (Richmond Tech) 1986-1989 he actually had 1 in his car....Really weird days but much fun
Miss you MR Peter Brock.. I purchased my VC HDT in 1987 from a couple in Melbourne that couldn’t afford to run it and I before I trucked it to NSW you signed the glove box and engine bay.
Since your passing the car has only seen daylight a few times and with only 38,000 on the clock this vehicle looks showroom condition I know one day it will help fund my retirement.
That car is better than superannuation mate.
“They said to me if you Peter Brock announce this car at the end of this week we’ll withdraw all support for you, we’ll I’ve gone ahead and I’ve announced it” Legend😂
And four years later, he was doing predelivery work on Lada Samaras.
By the time the Director was released, the IRS setup was the issue more so than the Polariser (ADR compliance being what it is), so it was somewhat ironic that once Brock released the car and scuppered his relationship with Holden's, all the Directors he sold (and there weren't many) all had live rear axles.
Its still the best years of my life and miss him badly.
His downfall was his ego and the fact that he thought he was a businessman!!! Thats where it all turned to shit....energy polarizer my arse...iv seen him try to explain how it works many times....its actually embarrassing....as dick johnson said....brocky beleived his own bullshit!! Shame though.
That 87 VK race car in Mobil livery is the best looking car of the 1980s, period.
Steven Farrington I liked the marlboroh vk better
the vk with the aussie flag on the roof with the group a kit is why i LOVE VKS and put the vk on the map.
if my vk isnt sold this year selling my sv6 wagon n going to do a retro livery on the vk n go all out old school on it ready for the track like back in the day.
sick cnt! spot on brother top answer!
Daan vaan. Your old man shouldn’t have wasted a load to produce you you fuckwit.
Miss my VK caliais 304, onto a 4 speed, headers, hdt spoiler hdt front skirt and grill looked and sounded like a beast. Never a issue with that digital dash either. Yes it was a 304 they shortened the stroke to be under 5ltrs at 4987cc the 308 was 5044cc
Still got one. 84 308 286 cam rollers marenello red matching numbers.
I had a Holden Special FX 215/48 in 1970. I bought it from the original owner.
Holden killed Brock but it was suicidal for them as they died thirty years later themselves.
@@Steveaustin007. The Australian Taxpayer bailed them out.
@@MJTAUTOMOTIVE you better check with GM - after they through in 100’s millions - they let Holden go broke . Sales the last few years were over 30 to 40% down year on year .
Selling rebadged Daewoo’s didn’t work out to well .
The Holden CEO said they need people to buy their cars / not housos & bogans who buy Holden T -shirts .
the hdt vk commodore group a ss was one of best cars peter brock ever made
Lachie Reynen very true , the group A in the VK was the last one made to race spec sporting the 307 Chevy in a 4 speed , the only difference between that production car and the one Peter raced was the production VK group A had 5 seats and no roll cage and no sponsor colours , other then that everything was the same as he raced it on the track. Hard to find an original one these days unfortunately but if ya had one in sitting under wraps you could call it priceless
@@oldfaithfuliii5997 actually, they had Holden 304s. 307s were never used in Commodores.
ayrproductions lol oh really why don’t you go back and check again , that’s if you even checked at all ? The 4.9Lt 307 Chev engine was used in the 1985 VK Group A SS , I’m not a fan of Holden nor someone that thinks he knows everything about them like most do but I know that car because I’ve Driven it many times and I know the man that owns Number 243/500 build and it’s under 32,000 ks on the cloak , nothings been modified or changed as he is the original owner also just so you know you couldn’t just buy that particular car back then from your dealer you needed to be someone that Holden would offer the car to first . so pls tell me more about the 304 lol 😂
@@oldfaithfuliii5997 No, the 4.9 was the Holden 304 which was used up until 1999 (2000 in VS series III), not the 307 Chev. It's a pretty common mistake to be made though. The 304 was the reduced capacity version of the 308 for Group A so the cars could run at a lower weight. You need to check facts yourself and clearly your "mate who owns a VK Group A SS" has no idea what's under his own bonnet.
ayrproductions yeah since 1985 he’s been scratching his head , wow you really are a muppet btw why don’t you go and check it out and in the mean time tell me what the VN group A SS had under the hood just so I know I’m not going to waste time with ya nxt stupid reply
The only thing that makes a car run better than an energy polariser is if you add a couple of drops of oil from the horn of a unicorn into the petrol tank.
How’s your sales going GM Holden?
Peter doing his own thing didn’t always work out. Gotta give the guy credit for following his own heart at all cost. That director model was a horrible looking thing.
It was good looking at the time.
It had an IRS and if they used the RB30 instead of the v8 it could have been a export success.
@@leoncutajar1369 I was there at the time, that was the ugliest car I had ever seen, it still is It looked bad in all photographs and even in real life on the road.
Always wanted to have a go in one though probably a fun car if unleashed.
@@thedave7760🤣 your honesty had me pissing myself it is a hideous machine.
@@leoncutajar1369 there's no such thing as "good looking at the time". If it looks ugly now? It was ugly then.
@@leoncutajar1369 ugliest Holden ever.
i rode in a VK group A SS when i was 18. It did 90km/h in 1st and 165km/h in second. Perfect power band and gearing. That thing absolutely flew, great car and Im no Aussie car fan
Must've been an automatic?
@@markharris4421 yes. those speeds in 1st & 2nd gear I would think so too.
165 in second?
@@markharris4421 i dont think the group a's came in automatic.
@@mga71 that was the point. I call bullshit.
Where is that VL Director these days? Mega bucks too I'd reckon.
I heard you got sold to Australian collector in California for about $350,000 couple years ago
@@lindonandlisa8114 Money doesn't buy taste as they say.
So many wrote Brocky off after this. He wasn't down for long though.
He didnt mention his silly little box of rocks again though....it was his biggest mistake.
@@leighhudson8584 no argument there. The Engergy Polarizer was the heart and soul of all those problems. That and his getting into bed (figuratively speeking) with Dr Feelgood, aka Eric Dowker.
Um, what did he achieve after this? A couple of wins and some pole positions in a Sierra 🤔
@@wadedixon6780 Brock won plenty after this. Oh but I guess he must have failed because he didn't win Bathurst after 1987.....
He never headed up the factory special vehicles operation again.
I am glad that Peter brock made allan Moffat to join him in the HDT team
Peter Brock was one of Australia's best drivers. Unfortunately this was one of his major stuff up's. I can't believe he pressed on with the idea on these poloraisers which had no proof that they even did anything. The were in my opinion nothing more than Bullshit suido science. But even worse was he released a car without approval from GM. That sent him broke. Lesson dont attack the hand that feeds you because it doesn't end well. Apart from that I personally liked Peter Brock I had the pleasure of meeting him once. When I was a young teenager.
Suido?
@@barrycuda3769 sudo make me a sandwich
He'd not get the approval if that polarizer is installed.
That was the influence of his wife Bev that got him mixed up with all that new-age crystal nonsense.
Brock lost the plot with the “energizer”…if he was still around he probably would’ve backed Firepower too!!
The negative irons needed aligning
I still have my VL Director I purchased from Muirs at Ashfield with the Momo upgrade from GM in mint condition with only 15k on the clock..
The car has been sitting in my garage since 1991 and has never been out since
Im seriously thinking about selling this classic because I think it belongs to an enthusiast they will appreciate it
Cheap ?
Can I have a drive in it?
How many did they make?
Haha
RIP the King. Sadly they don’t make them like PB anymore.
The Polarizer was only a smoke screen to hide what was really happening.
GMH wanted full control of HDT Special Vehicles. They finally saw the market potential that Brock & Harvey had created with the enhanced performance vehicles. The split was ugly for that reason. Brock saw the potential to Export his Performance vehicles That was territory GMH hadn't yet conquered, they were exporting engine's but not complete cars yet. So for a small operation to be successful in exporting it's performance vehicles & the parent company not having yet explored that avenue you can see why GMH wanted full control of HDT Special Vehicles.
What a man he had everything in the palm of his hand and that's where it stayed did not sellout to anyone a true legend he legacy will continue on he will always be the king of the mountain
He was a knob who believed his own bullshit.
Whether he was right or wrong Brocky had the guts to stand up for what he believed in
Vic the front bar of most hotels are full of blokes who stand up for what they believe in, it doesn’t make them right, just stubborn. When the unload a gob full of their bullshit, don’t argue, just pat them on the back and say enjoy your night mate. In Brocky’s case his stubbornness cost him a business partnership worth millions. He needed to listen and bide his time but it wasn’t in his nature to do that. As successful as he was he was human and got it wrong sometimes but his arrogance wouldn’t allow him to accept that
And at the time he believed in magnets and crystals and "orgone energy".
@@JBofBrisbane so what he is entitled to his beliefs
My god, They were never his cars, This was a bizarre time but not Brocks best for sure , to be Frank he looked a bit nuts . He was marketing a Holden , GMH just said don’t fit the polariser . Sorry I Am getting to get attacked but the doctor in the pits was never a good look,Brock shot himself in the foot.
HSV was setup by Tom Walkinshaw after he successfully bid for the contract & from day 1 became an outstanding contributor to GMH’s sales & future success with John Harvey doing a brilliant job. I
Where the fuck is “Dr Dowker today?”
Passed away in April 2019.
miss the r32 gtr skyline that come along and rocked my world thought v8s were great.how a 2.6 litre rice burner come along and started dictating Bathurst
if i had a VL Director i would want the polariiser😁💪💪🇭🇲🇭🇲🇭🇲
Brock's Ego made him think he WAS HOLDEN...he even thought he actually BÙILT the Car's...when all he did was Stick plastic bits and bolted other bits on a Car that was already Mass Produced...I'm almost certain he thought Holden would fold without him...he was WRONG
Love Brock. But he did loose the plot. I choose to blame the sheila of the time.
*lose
Pete Evans has gone the same way and his wife started that BS.
So your one of those guys who thinks a man's failures can be blamed on the women he's with? A strong man knows bs when he sees it and doesn't indulge it. Face it, PB had an ego and whomever put the pseudo science shit in front of him just gave him the excuse he was looking for to do what he really wanted to do. Once he made that choice he was too blinded by his Peter perfect image to see he was screwing up.
As a man I get real fucking tired of men blaming there shortcomings on their women. I've had great girlfriends and a few crazy ones too. I knew to not indulge the crazy ones craziness and if that meant they left (which they did) than better alone than in bad company. At the end of the day, if strong men really exist we are responsible for what we do. Only the weak blame their failures on someone else.
I had a VK Calais Director and it has been the best car that I have ever owned. Brock bit the hand that fed him and he paid the price. His family infidelity finally led to his demise and death.
So it wasn't the rally crash in WA that killed him then? 😉
What a stupid comment. Yes, he had a history of being unfaithful to his partners but that had NOTHING to do with his crash.
Got to meet him 😃
How much would a Brock director go for today?
I had a 1979 Holden Fallout.
Barry Jones is that Barry jones the race car driver
and when brock came back to hsv holdens factory race team, they gave him a shit car, hsv took brocks sponsorship money, and did all the development and put the best new parts on craig lowndes car, brock was not even allowed any input on his own cars setup development , he got screwed again by gmh
thanks for sharing
Miss my 86 commie berlina 3.3.
No amount of polarizers will take away his raciing skills.
Only one good thing came out of all of this and it was "V8 TILL 98"
You can only have so many tickets on yourself before people realize no one is at the show......
In other words don't believe the hype!
All I want is a vk group A
Holden and ford shot them selves in the head
Bunkum he won Bathurst 8 times. You must finish in the car you start in. It was a joke. Money talks
I was a level playing field, every driver could cross nominate if they chose to and the team was running more than one car. So Brock won.fair and square and absolutely in accordance with the cams regulations at the time. So you are factually wrong and it makes no difference how much you bitch and moan nothing is going to change that.....you'll always be wrong
Back then the rules allowed it and everyone with a two car team could do the same thing. Just had to have every driver practice in each car. Dick Johnson did the same thing when he took three Sierras. Only issue was that when he actually tried to, he couldn't fit in the seat.
He’s from elthan
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Can be healed Angus terry
Never mention the 'Polarizer' word and Peter Brock....
Work boss did
IRS director is what sent the deal south....Polorizer was just the scapegoat....
+Andy Robson
1. How do you know this?
2. Where do you know it from?
3.How have you verified it?
4.provide your evidence .... Or your testimony shall be dismissed as hearsay
Andrew_koala wow any one who did any research on the matter would know that.
na holden wanted wat he had. they could see they could make money from special vehicles..so HSV was born
@@andrew_koala2974 It was stated in the book "The Rise and Fall of Peter Brock" which had John Harvey as a contributor and described the situation in great detail. Therefore, it is documented.
@@leighpiasente1734 HSV did not belong to Holden, it belonged to TWR and they both, (Brock-HDT/TWR-HSV), provided Holden with race cars and a team in return of using Holden as the base of their own road going products. Both businesses were ran the same way and were completely separate companies to Holden. Holden purchased the HSV brand in 2002 in order to save it from the fallout of the TWR collapse when the Arrows F1 team sent TWR broke.
I need fuel
Can’t afford it
Hero
its fuckn ugly...holden wins that one
Your on the money, and with HSV + GMH coming to contractual terms very quickly and smoothly seamlessly in essence continuing on as if it were a relatively minor bump bringing enhanced models to the public compliant to all bodies. The left field media regarding Peter Brock being vegetarian, crystals, pyramids, meditation whirlwind they continued on with night after night focusing on implying he had fallen out of the crazy tree branch by branch. This turning on Brock a national hero so quickly and unbalanced with a GMH HSV bias makes you wonder. I was a major Ford fan back then loving the Hardtops and remember it clearly thinking the enemy Brock had been hard done by at Holden with the distinct feeling there had been some head office corporate and engineering departments executives that had turned the knife in Brock having had their individual noses out of joint from Brock's direct nature or jealousy for his public recognition when they were running the race teams collaborating designing & building race cars when Peter was the major highly succesful poster boy for Holden 🤔.
I wanted a v8 mallo ute
*Maloo
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Peter had a vision which would have made Holden right up there in the world stage, the VL Director was well before it's time and was built to compete against the likes of BMW. From memory it had independent rear end which wasn't bought into Aussie cars for years later and that's another insight into what he was trying to do. Personally I don't believe the energy polariser is what was his undoing, I think there were tensions between both parties for sometime and Holden used the polariser as an excuse to try to stop him. Who knows what would have happened if Holden actually embraced his vision but it was very sad to see the two end up how they did back then, perhaps it was a sign of Holdens arrogance that would grow even bigger in the distant future which eventually became their undoing. 2 great Aussie Icons are now gone.
The VL Director had components which hadn't been ADR approved (most notably the optional IRS) which is why Holden cut him off. If there had been any claims made against them over something Brock had put on the cars, Holden would've been the ones sued and it would've destroyed them. They gave him plenty of opportunity to provide a car for them to test but he ignored them.
@@ayrproductions The relationship had been going sour for some time before the director and this car or what was on it is not the reason Holden cut him off. He knew where the relationship was going so he ignored their directions. His plan for HDT was to build a quality road car up there to compete with the likes of BMW but Holden didn't share that vision and were happy to build the typical average family car. That IRS may not have been ADR approved but if HDT had gone forward with the production of the director then everything on those cars would have been approved before going into full time production including the IRS. The IRS came in a few years later so no doubt it would have been made ADR approved in time but as I said it showed he was a forward thinker and well before his time.
@@knight2425 the release of the VL Director was the final straw in the whole thing. The Polarizer was what initially set it off, though. HDT did go ahead with production on the car, just in much smaller numbers than what Brock would've liked, and IRS was an option on them (not many were actually sold with IRS, though). There were items on those cars that did not see any ADR testing as Brock thought that since the IRS was similar to what Opel was using on the Senator in Europe at the time that it didn't need to be. Holden gave Brock ample opportunity to send them a Director for them to test and he completely ignored them. So it was released without adhering to the appropriate ADRs it required to. This is something that has been documented in Bill Tuckey's book "The Rise and Fall of Peter Brock" which goes into great detail about it and had John Harvey as a contributor. I suggest you read it in order to realise what was actually going on within HDT at the time.
The IRS which Holden added to VPs as an option wasn't the same as what Brock put in the Director and was extensively tested over a number of years, until they got it right.
It might have done well in Europe against the BMW with a modified RB30 but with the carby fed boat anchor would have flopped both is sales and on the track
Yeah, go on believing that...
Why ford
Brocky made holden in OZ and they treated him like crap. RIP Brocky. Legend!
Other way around - GMH made Brock, then he started to believe his own hype and bit the hand that fed him.
Peter Brock started believing the media. He was like my father - he thought that all women were fair game. Adultery will get you in the end. Be not deceived, God is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. He paid with his life. This is what sin does. Sin will snuff out your life. The Lord Jesus the Christ died for us so that we can go to haven if we REPENT.
There is not such thing as a non sinner 'for all have sinned and have come short of the glory of God'. We are all sinners. The difference is that those who realise that they are sinners and believe in the Lord Jesus the Christ, they repent (Change their ways) and are forgiven. From there onward the will of God is the most important thing in a persons life. We all make mistakes. A real 'Holy Spirit filled' Christian is protected from the enemy. There are the times of testing and many Christians have been martyred for not renouncing the name of the Lord Jesus the Christ of Nazareth.
Pay
Most expensive an ugly vl ever
One cash hungry individual.buy a vk slap spoliers add $$ sell it ..
And bring in the APV Group 5i just to stick it to GM The APV had more power 💪🏼
Eventually bought out by the bigger money corporation of Walkinshaw
I own a APV group5i VN Commodore