Back when I was in 10th grade, I was in the wrestling class. I was only approximately 120 Ibs at the time and underweight. One day early in the season, my collarbone and ribcage became misaligned. My arms horizontal movement became restricted due to the pain. I asked everyone; my coach, my teachers, my parents to help me see a Chiropractor. No one took me seriously. Because of this injury which I was forced to wrestle with or fail the class, I never won a single match. I felt absolutely devastated. I refuse to see this movie because I am afraid of reliving my own trauma. It’s because of this trauma I fail to understand how so many people including Chris Stuckmann can praise a work like this, and because I fail to understand I feel weak, incompetent, and outcast, like I’m missing out on something great. Is it okay to feel deathly afraid of a film such as this?
I’ve thought of it 100 times, even though J.K Simmons was the reason this movie was good but Miles Teller’s acting was that little cherry on top that made it an instant classic
as a 10 year musician, I played in a band. Many times we had the bass player to make the intro of the music and we always knew and followed the rythim of the music. 3 seconds are enough to know and be prepared to follow the bass player. When you are one of the greatest musicians in New York, you don't need a music sheet for famous pieces of music in the kind of the music you know very well, in that case I mean Jazz and what is more famous piece in Jazz than Caravan.
I love how ambiguous this ending is. Many read it as triumphant, and many read it as tragic. Andrew finally succeeding, or Andrew finally giving in into obsession and madness.
@@lobsterdfw1 the greatest achievements throughout the history of our civilization we’re achieved because great men and women sacrificed everything in their lives to reach the peak. At the end of their lives they probably felt sadness and some regret over it but without them our world wouldn’t be what it is today. In a way it is tragic, in a way it is beautiful and in a way, as Fletcher states, it is an absolute necessity.
He got what he wanted but is now just an empty shell after throwing his life away. He'd probably end up like the musician who died earlier. Meanwhile fletcher might even consider Andrew's death as another achievement to create another Bird.
Am I the only one who thinks the final smile of fletcher is actually a sign of his victory? He finally made one of his students a virtuous musician just as he had always planned..
It was mutual respect. Fletcher still dislikes Andrew, but he managed to beat him at his own game that he at least respects him for finally achieving his goal. Becoming a core, playing in studio band, and letting go of his trauma
Man sold his soul to the devil for that golden fiddle. It has both a positive and negative side depending on how you look at it. It's why it's so great tbh.
I think the smile is fake with a big "f u " behind it. He's pretending to approve because the band is following Andrew and he's irrelevant. The band is following Neiman -not him. He was willing to trash the number to maintain that control. The band basically pulled off leaving him pouting on the sidewalk.
The Commentator this and then Dunkirk. I remember watching that shit in an almost empty imax theatre and I nearly had a fucking stroke. These two movies just jump from one beat to the next without a concern for your health.
1:36 This moment right here shows a shift in Andrew's character. At this point, he's no longer fazed by embarassment or insult. The way he looks at Fletcher, he's confident in what he can do.
can you elaborate ? it seems you have an interesting point but as a non jazz /musician I dont understand it ... Please explain as if I was a 12 years old.
@@romeorodrigues3680 If he didn’t start on cue fletcher would have gouged out his eyes and ripped his actual balls off as promised and making this movie only found in the horror section of your local blockbuster
I did this piece for my final exam at my college we prepared this scene in secret with my assigned band and told no one about it. It was an amazing performance that will stay with me for my entire life. I’ll never forget the look my teacher had when he understood.
Whiplash is a parable exploring the extremities of fear, and the toxic relationships explored somehow feel familiar to us. No longer fearing someone who once paralyzed you with anxiety is just a result of repeated trauma. Insane
Whiplash is the symbolizing of Student vs Master. Fletcher broke down him, and now he sought perfection than passion. He sought perfection because he had been abused by Fletcher and in order to defeat Fletcher he had to become Fletcher.
This is kind of how it works in the arts. Learn everything you can from the master, then use it against them to prove yourself. It’s kind of fucked up, but that’s how I learned to play saxophone from my teacher. Then turned around and did everything he hated, well 😃
I'm just now noticing that at 0:46 he mouths "Fuck you" to Fletcher, and by one song, they go from being at each other's throats to gaining each other's respect.
pukeylukey199 A solo part doesn't have to be exclusively solo. It would sound bare otherwise. A solo is when an instrument has the spotlight and the rest are either silent or accompanying quietly with a simple melody to make the soloist stand out.
The greatest part about this scene even though it feels so triumphant is how subtlety sad it is, while he gains fletchers respect he in turn repeats history as paralleled by the famous musician and instructor story that’s repeated throughout of instructor who threw a symbol at his players head, and like that drummer he now puts himself on a collision course of destruction. Even said by the director the highest probability is Andrew will become a well regarded musician who lives a short life most likely do to overdose or some type of self gratification, that’s what makes this ending so powerful because while he wins and has the grand finale he also looses everything else human about his life like his relationships and his family by choosing this path. Fucking beautiful movie
Andrew's great "victory" is earning the approval of the monster who put him through so much mental and physical torment, completing his alienation from every person and every other thing that was ever important to him.
You don’t choose your family , you can choose who you want to be. We been brainwashed to think that family and wife and kids. The truth is higher self transcends all of that. You family can not go on the path with you and you with them. Everyone must find the path on their own. Family concept is thrust upon you to make you average and a slave to the system. Once you have become exceptional you can transcend.
The more I rewatch this and look at Fletcher’s facial expressions, the more I wonder whether everything he’s saying here is part of his act to test Neiman, or whether he really is angry yet is slowly realising how good Neiman is. It’s so good how you can draw so much from every viewing.
i think Fletcher got what he wanted something new. Since everyone played only to pleas Fletcher's expectation. Neiman decided to play for himself and not following Fletcher anymore. So in the end Fletcher and Neiman got what they both wanted. Something his tempo and Fletcher's respect
At 2:23 Fletcher is realizing how good is he playing, at 3:04 he is watching how he is playing clean in the right tempo (after struggling on it before when he won the part) then at the end when he continues playing after the show finishes and he ask him what is he doing, he realizes he es becoming the "Charlie Parker" in the drums. They both left their problems behind and put music in first place. This movie is a masterpiece!
I think it's the latter. I wondered the same upon second viewing but don't forget Fletcher lost his prestigious job thanks to Neiman and that he didn't give him the right song... So his purpose was to make sure that Neiman was humiliated and never had a career in Jazz. But halfway through he realized that he achieved what he craved so much, which was to create a great artist.
1:33 This small part is the reason why I keep coming back to this… the camera work, including all 3 musicians especially Nieman just grooving on their instruments. And then you learn it’s the POV of Fletcher coming over and the look of defiance on Niemans face just elevates the scene so much more. Absolutely phenomenal
Fletcher just brought Neiman here to completely break him. To completely make him never touch a drumstick again. What a mad psychopath. Neiman outdid Fletcher by not quitting. Neiman's a champion.
Actually, Fletcher was being abusive and cruel so Andrew would purposefully grow to hate Fletcher. That out of spite, he would improve himself as a big old "Fuck you" to Fletcher who kept putting him down. Fletcher's ultimate scheme was to make a great player through abuse and torment, for the student to hate the mentor so much, they become better beyond their mentor's expectation just to prove them wrong. This was Fletcher's philosophy, and Andrew proved him correct.
If you don’t hate the teacher to the point of growing to resent them in order to prove them wrong, you’re not doing it right. The arts are like that. “Alright fuck you, I’m good now and do everything you don’t like with the style I like.”
@@mugetsu3509 I know you feel real smart right now for understanding the basic premise of the movie, but news flash, not everyone is the same as you and only a worthless idiot that lacks attention & validation would rub something so trivial in someone’s face
I mean you could pick up a guitar and not know where to start but drums you could do it purely by ear, not to say being a great drummer is easy just that its fundamentals are the most simplistic if that makes sense.
JK Simmons is so good even just acting as a conductor/musician. I worked in a college choir with a director who was EXTREMELY good at what he did (except he was a genuinely good person), along with many other directors throughout my time in music. All the mannerisms even to the slight shoulder twitch in the beginning are all things I've seen from different directors. He either worked with professional conductors or just went to a lot of performances and studied hard. Either way he did an amazing job.
Yoda & Luke Skywalker Mr. Miyagi & The Karate Kid Gandalf and the Fellowship Mufasa & Simba Professor Charles Xavier & The X-Men Gordon Bombay & The Mighty Ducks Agent K & Agent J Ok you still win.
If you read the original screenplay, there are moments in this scene where we are explicitly shown the audience and their reactions. I'm really glad they decided to go with the direction they did in the film instead.
Finn Keenan yes it shows 2 people but if you notice it’s like black in the back abyss like not an entire audience you know it’s as if the players are in there own world and he is playing for himself clearly why he kept going
I think the best part of this scene is that throughout this piece, is when Fletcher is constantly directing the band but has no focus on Andrew knowing he is perfect and needs no directing. I find this so interesting the level of trust Fletcher has with his former student even after his betrayal of him. I think it really fleshes out this whole story and shows what Andrew is willing to do to become the absolute best even if it coincides with his former teacher plans.
It might also be that at this point, he knows he doesn't have the respect of Niemann to actually get him to follow any cues he makes. So he just, didn't make them.
Yes, I completely agree. Oscars usually go to one-dimensional characters, usually ‘freak out’ characters or super pitiful/vulnerable characters. Miles’ character in this movie is often vulnerable and yet because of that, he had a toughness in him in wanting to prove himself. That in my opinion is way harder to portray than a character like Simmons’. I think oscars aren’t really about how good an actor’s acting is, it’s more about how well the character manages to capture the attention of the audience. Big difference.
He was fantastic but Simmons stole the movie. He gave the best performance of that year by a mile and a half. But Miles Teller definitely should’ve been nominated.
The most ironic thing is, had Neiman not gone through what he did in the band, he would have never had the balls to stand up to this guy. After facing such an imposing figure and learning that life went on regardless, Neiman realized he didn't give a shit about what Fletcher did or said to him. Life would continue. Fletcher would continue to lead a band, he'd continue living. Fletcher was all bluster - sure, he'd hit his band members? Gouge out their eyes? Hell no. His power came through fear. If Neiman isn't afraid of him, he is powerless. If he just wanted to please Fletcher, he wouldn't have attempted that solo. At that point, he was playing for himself.
Well your interpretation isn't bad but according to the writer/director Neiman loses to Flecher at the end of the movie. If you watch the director talking about the ending he said Neiman will die of drug overdose in his 30s and will let leave Fletcher's control. You can see this at the end when Flecher tells him to slow down and Neiman follows his lead. It's really a sad ending to a character but still a great movie
@@newkid9807 and neither is it meant to be realistic. Its mostly a metaphor about obsession taken to its extremes. Comparing it literally to real scenarios is stupid (like the person above did).
I'm severely disabled (brain and body) and I'm preparing for a Master degree. I whiplashed my ableist research director with a new project because he didn't give me any resources for the previous one. I went ahead and contacted multiple teachers (a caravan) who all agreed to work with me and sent a group mail, including my director (who didn't respond) and the director above him (who agreed), explaining where I'm heading. I sent a private email to my director, trying to reconcile with him, and linking to this video. Master, you are my inspiration. Edit: If I wasn't disabled, I would have left uni to be a bass player.
@@TheRedhenProductionsif you ever can get the chance, give 2001 a space oddessy a watch. The ending definitely had me on the same level of wow as the ending of this
@@militarydeviltube5014He’s small town level at best, other characters in fiction such as pre retcon beyonder are hyperversal+ and much stronger than him
I'm iChxz the drumming was actually done by Antonio Sanchez. It's not real. I research the fuck out of this film when it came out because it pissed me off so much.
El Hoxo Oh no boo hoo! This is so sad someone on the internet copy and pasted a comment. The world has stopped functioning and the apocalypse has begun.
@@mkx-515 Oh no boo hoo! This is so sad someone on the internet was disappointed that somebody on the copy and pasted a comment. The world has stopped functioning and the apocalypse has begun.
Alternate ending: Andrew finishes and with a great sense of pride he looks at Fletcher who gives him a smile and then proceeds to walk up to his ear and whispers.... . . . . . . . . "That was great you know, but not quite my tempo".
The thing is, the director said Neiman dies of drug overdose in his thirties, and Fletcher is still as arrogant as ever, thinking he was right all along.
Stephanie Rodriguez Is that really that much of a sad ending for Neiman, though? I mean, if you remember back to the dinner table conversation he had with his (family) where we see Nieman and his cousins’ ego’s come to a collision, Nieman mentions that he’d rather die of a drug overdose in his 30s and be discussed by people at a dinner table, than live to be 90 years old and have nobody remember his name. Maybe for Nieman this crazy, monk-like dedication and commitment to his craft is what gave him his happiness; even if that comes at the cost of finding true love, having a family, and maintaining meaningful, lifelong relationships with people. Happiness means different things to different people, just because Nieman’s idea deviates and sits outside of what is considered the norm, doesn’t necessarily mean his version of happiness is tainted or toxic when you compare that with the traditional path of finding love and forming meaningful connections with other’s.
Stephanie Rodriguez Well, Fletcher WAS kinda right in a twisted way. I don’t think Neiman would have been able to do what he just did if he hadn’t been pushed to his absolute limits before.
There’s a really good comparison video of Black Swan and Wiplash by a channel called “Lessons in Screenplay” that shows the similarities and differences. It’s really insightful yet also easy to understand
Best part was that "Caravan" was the song that Fletcher told Deiman "you're done." What I loved about this is it's Andrew basically answering "No I'm not."
I regret that I just watched this movie today. It's been on my list-to-watch movies for a while but it wasn't in my interest to watch it at first and today I finally watched it. I'm still shaking and having goosebumps right now. definitely one of the best movies I've seen.
Yeah it's good. But... you don't believe it is a happy ending, do you? Andrew has lost his humanity and became a machine, his father knows it while he watch and obviously, Andrew is going to die in his 30s of a drug overdose or suicide, alone! That's what he told early in the film he would prefere and that's what he obtained...
Without doubt the most impressive, literally edge of your seat finish I’ve ever experienced with a film or movie. The entire film builds to this point and viewers are splendidly rewarded. Too many movies these days try to hit every angle, as if the protagonist thinks he can have it all. Well, the real world called and said you have a choice: music greatness or normalcy. I’m inspired by his drive. I think we would all be better off if all of us applied a couple years of intense, singular focus to our goals. Some might view see this as intense selfishness, but once you’ve completed it you can rest assured that the person you’re presenting to someone is the true person you are. Saves everyone the time and trouble.
It's an interesting debate, but I've come to the conclusion that total devotion to anything will only lead to ruin. I think you should stop at the point of excess. Nothing wrong with obsession, only excess obsession.
I like how there are continuous quick tilt shots from Neiman to Fletcher at 4:05 - 4:28, so fast and consistent, its like it was trying to give you... whiplash.
They made jazz look so fucking cool with these shots and for a person like me who doesn't get the appeal for it was so god damn invested till the end. Great movie.
Can we STOP making those stupid jokes. I cannot tell you how many times I’ve seen “Not quite my tempo” or “rushing or dragging?” comments. Weirdly enough, those jokes aren’t getting funnier the more I see them.
What the movie taught is that, for some people, happiness doesn't come cheap. When life itself is constantly taunting you, dangling perfection in front of you, you have no choice but to chase it or die trying.
@@omarbarraza5150 Yes he did, but their storyline matches up no matter the instrument, and Charlie Parker was a recurring reference and mindset for Andrew
@@N8Z_44 Both perfect their talent at the cost of dying young. Both gave up having a normal life, all in pursuit of being the best. Charlie struggled with heroin and mental health, Andrew would soon fall to the same fate.
For Neiman not only to go out there and play, but flawlessly play what many consider one of the most taxing jazz songs for a drummer…sheesh! Takes guts.
I saw that u tube video too. But imo it's Seeing what isn't there. It's a dark film yes. But neiman overcame. It'd be somewhat accurate if they never met in the bar and fletch said the next great would never be discouraged. Had he walked off stage into his dad's arms the road would've lead to that of the previous suicider. But again he went back and conquered and became one of the greats. Cool dark story tho!
The cinematography on this is amazing. The close ups on the fine movements and the emotion in the faces, the overhead shots, wide angle lens views of the stage, the dolly tracking shots that move across to see the players, the call and response whip pans towards the end, the shallow depth of field (blurry background) prioritizing the hand action of the players. The lighting is a very big part of the warm look the scene has and the stressed looks on people's faces. The editing is a major element too. And the sound is really well mixed. This is the director that made La La Land, which is another one I love. Makes sense it would have high production value.
Watching this scene for the first time and I’m just in awe of how it’s shot. They managed to show people sitting still on stage for five minutes and make it feel so incredibly kinetic
This was exactly my experience when I was a bassist in nyc music college 1978. My conductor abused me but I became the best. Playing at the best shows around the world until I retired in 2001.
The bass guy is like
"Im not letting my bro die alone here."
So true
"I too am Spartacus."
I mean, breh, what would have you done?
Bass guy knows his shit.
Cello technically, but yeah. True bro.
@@KitnKiller It's a double bass, not technically a cello by any means.
Fletcher: "Now we're gonna slow it downa bit"
Neiman: "That's not quite my tempo"
Iconic. Underrated comment
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this is my ALL TIME favourite comment 😭💯
Back when I was in 10th grade, I was in the wrestling class. I was only approximately 120 Ibs at the time and underweight. One day early in the season, my collarbone and ribcage became misaligned. My arms horizontal movement became restricted due to the pain. I asked everyone; my coach, my teachers, my parents to help me see a Chiropractor. No one took me seriously. Because of this injury which I was forced to wrestle with or fail the class, I never won a single match. I felt absolutely devastated.
I refuse to see this movie because I am afraid of reliving my own trauma. It’s because of this trauma I fail to understand how so many people including Chris Stuckmann can praise a work like this, and because I fail to understand I feel weak, incompetent, and outcast, like I’m missing out on something great. Is it okay to feel deathly afraid of a film such as this?
The amount of BALLS Neiman had to play even though Fletcher expected him to quit is downright inspirational
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Anybody here got a vibe of "The Chain" from TSFH's To Glory?
The fact that Miles Teller didn't even get nominated for this performance is beyond me. He was awesome
Wasn't their tempo.
@@DarkJakoh man, that was a good one
@@DarkJak jake gyllenhall didnt get nominated and he could have been the ultimate winner!
I’ve thought of it 100 times, even though J.K Simmons was the reason this movie was good but Miles Teller’s acting was that little cherry on top that made it an instant classic
He didnt play the actual music
Neiman: I'll cue you in
The bass player: *I never asked for this*
Hahaha I love this hahhaa
@@cavetr0ll *I never asked for this*
Queue
@@notthatsleepy thanks
daft punk that’s what she said
Everybody taking about the Bass Player, but no one giving credit to the Piano guy even tho he joined without needing any cue...
True legend
Welcome to sheet music...
That’s what I’m saying!! yess. Piano guy is underrated.
as a 10 year musician, I played in a band. Many times we had the bass player to make the intro of the music and we always knew and followed the rythim of the music. 3 seconds are enough to know and be prepared to follow the bass player. When you are one of the greatest musicians in New York, you don't need a music sheet for famous pieces of music in the kind of the music you know very well, in that case I mean Jazz and what is more famous piece in Jazz than Caravan.
@@kevlon1996 there were no sheets for caravan.
@@nooftube2541 Yes there were, did you even watch the video or do you not know what ’sheet music’ means?
I love how ambiguous this ending is. Many read it as triumphant, and many read it as tragic. Andrew finally succeeding, or Andrew finally giving in into obsession and madness.
But obsession and madness is like any other passion, like sports too
@@litdip2877 nah dude, it's no good when you destroy all your relationships to follow that passion. That's my reading, anyway.
@@lobsterdfw1 the greatest achievements throughout the history of our civilization we’re achieved because great men and women sacrificed everything in their lives to reach the peak. At the end of their lives they probably felt sadness and some regret over it but without them our world wouldn’t be what it is today. In a way it is tragic, in a way it is beautiful and in a way, as Fletcher states, it is an absolute necessity.
@@evanderchristy6712 Yin and yang at work
He got what he wanted but is now just an empty shell after throwing his life away. He'd probably end up like the musician who died earlier. Meanwhile fletcher might even consider Andrew's death as another achievement to create another Bird.
Am I the only one who thinks the final smile of fletcher is actually a sign of his victory? He finally made one of his students a virtuous musician just as he had always planned..
No, you aren't. Fletcher was literally crushing it to produce a diamond and in Neiman he succeeded where dust fell before....
@@roguerover30k exactly!
It was mutual respect. Fletcher still dislikes Andrew, but he managed to beat him at his own game that he at least respects him for finally achieving his goal. Becoming a core, playing in studio band, and letting go of his trauma
Man sold his soul to the devil for that golden fiddle. It has both a positive and negative side depending on how you look at it. It's why it's so great tbh.
I think the smile is fake with a big "f u " behind it. He's pretending to approve because the band is following Andrew and he's irrelevant. The band is following Neiman -not him. He was willing to trash the number to maintain that control. The band basically pulled off leaving him pouting on the sidewalk.
The bass guy: *I'm about to save this man's whole career*
*what career?!*
Upswinging: I'm about to end this man's whole career
Caravan: nah bro
**plays bass on cue**
OHHHHHHH!!!
Bass players are always the homie as a drummer. Been saved by one more than once
The True Saviour of the Movie
This movie is the official definition of anxiety
The Commentator YES, THANK YOU. I just came out of a screening practically shaking. What a movie!
The Commentator this and then Dunkirk. I remember watching that shit in an almost empty imax theatre and I nearly had a fucking stroke. These two movies just jump from one beat to the next without a concern for your health.
This and black swan
Forreal though
Where’s the lie
This movie is more anxiety inducing than any war film I’ve ever seen. When I finished this movie, I swear I turned on Dunkirk just to relax lol
LMAO the two movies that literally embodied anxiety
uncut gems bro
Daddy Hicks fr? Still haven’t peeped
monojuice uncut gems is so intense, you literally can’t
Dunkirk is pretty chill considering it's a war movie
1:36 This moment right here shows a shift in Andrew's character. At this point, he's no longer fazed by embarassment or insult. The way he looks at Fletcher, he's confident in what he can do.
He never really cared that much about other people tbh
This is truly the moment when Andrew became Heisenberg
"Father's said that i have problems making eye contacts"
*stares right into Fletcher's soul
especially after avoiding eye contact throughout the movie. it really shows that he’s not afraid anymore
that's the moment Fletcher really did what he want him to do, the awake his inner self and successfully did it.
This ending would've been so drastically different if the bass player just didn't play on Neiman's cue
The true hero of this scene
@@stefjames95 Just like the rat in endgame lol
“I’ll cue you in!”
“Bitch no, stop embarrassing all of us.”
can you elaborate ? it seems you have an interesting point but as a non jazz /musician I dont understand it ... Please explain as if I was a 12 years old.
@@romeorodrigues3680 If he didn’t start on cue fletcher would have gouged out his eyes and ripped his actual balls off as promised and making this movie only found in the horror section of your local blockbuster
The editing in this film was amazing, I’m glad it won an Oscar for that.
RJ DA Ight nigga and ?
RJ DA that’s not a mistake dumbass
@@dexter2178 yea it is, he isn't playing the bell nor the ride in that shot
@@dc33c I think he meant the reversing of the clip, which was intentional.
The drum sync is not the best though.
Who would’ve thought that a movie about jazz music would give me more anxiety than any other movie ever has.
Listen to modal jazz, it's always such an anxiety trip for me
How about a movie about ballerinas
@@itpatritia Ngl I prefer this movie
@@itpatritia are you talking about black swan?
@@aspol12 yess
I did this piece for my final exam at my college we prepared this scene in secret with my assigned band and told no one about it. It was an amazing performance that will stay with me for my entire life. I’ll never forget the look my teacher had when he understood.
Any chance we could see the video
@@eazy254 i could post it yes, it’s in very low quality unfortunately but I’ll do it
There uploaded it on my channel !
That's should have been his tempo
Did he threaten to gauge out your eyes and you hit him with the plate?
Whiplash is a parable exploring the extremities of fear, and the toxic relationships explored somehow feel familiar to us. No longer fearing someone who once paralyzed you with anxiety is just a result of repeated trauma. Insane
Whiplash is the symbolizing of Student vs Master.
Fletcher broke down him, and now he sought perfection than passion.
He sought perfection because he had been abused by Fletcher and in order to defeat Fletcher he had to become Fletcher.
@@Knight_Trooper So basically "I used the stones to destroy the stones"
@@ReblazeGaming It nearly killed me, but the work is done
@@nickcoy2103
weird how that is exactly what happened here.
This is kind of how it works in the arts. Learn everything you can from the master, then use it against them to prove yourself. It’s kind of fucked up, but that’s how I learned to play saxophone from my teacher. Then turned around and did everything he hated, well 😃
I'm just now noticing that at 0:46 he mouths "Fuck you" to Fletcher, and by one song, they go from being at each other's throats to gaining each other's respect.
Bro I commented this a year ago and got no likes lmao
UVGalaxy XD lmao
@@uvgalaxyxd7068 I gave you a like just now. Everyone deserves their credit, I'll take your word on it.
@@RsPker141 It’s a TH-cam comment.....
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Trombone guy was probably secretly so happy he get to have a solo when Andrew switched songs lol
Yup lol
Lmao
pukeylukey199 A solo part doesn't have to be exclusively solo. It would sound bare otherwise. A solo is when an instrument has the spotlight and the rest are either silent or accompanying quietly with a simple melody to make the soloist stand out.
pukeylukey199 When a player performs *his solo*, it doesn't mean the others can't play while he's doing it at all.
@pukeylukey199 you really have no idea xd
The way Fletcher's hatred slowly turns into awe and eventually pure joy is simply magnificent.
The greatest part about this scene even though it feels so triumphant is how subtlety sad it is, while he gains fletchers respect he in turn repeats history as paralleled by the famous musician and instructor story that’s repeated throughout of instructor who threw a symbol at his players head, and like that drummer he now puts himself on a collision course of destruction. Even said by the director the highest probability is Andrew will become a well regarded musician who lives a short life most likely do to overdose or some type of self gratification, that’s what makes this ending so powerful because while he wins and has the grand finale he also looses everything else human about his life like his relationships and his family by choosing this path. Fucking beautiful movie
Andrew's great "victory" is earning the approval of the monster who put him through so much mental and physical torment, completing his alienation from every person and every other thing that was ever important to him.
You don’t choose your family , you can choose who you want to be. We been brainwashed to think that family and wife and kids. The truth is higher self transcends all of that. You family can not go on the path with you and you with them. Everyone must find the path on their own. Family concept is thrust upon you to make you average and a slave to the system. Once you have become exceptional you can transcend.
this is the dumbest fucking comment i've read in my fucking life
@@FlourescentPotato 🤣🤣🤣🤣 i dont think its dumb but ur comment made me laugh
*loses
Man, this was a movie.
Dang, that was a comment
@@hotdogkiller3905 Damn, that was a reply
@@mysticalx7974 Holy hell so is this
@@gavinflack2133 Hi, Guys
@@kp1x It might be the moviest movie, ever.
The more I rewatch this and look at Fletcher’s facial expressions, the more I wonder whether everything he’s saying here is part of his act to test Neiman, or whether he really is angry yet is slowly realising how good Neiman is. It’s so good how you can draw so much from every viewing.
This scene should help th-cam.com/video/v5Cnkgq_38E/w-d-xo.html
i think Fletcher got what he wanted something new. Since everyone played only to pleas Fletcher's expectation. Neiman decided to play for himself and not following Fletcher anymore. So in the end Fletcher and Neiman got what they both wanted. Something his tempo and Fletcher's respect
At 2:23 Fletcher is realizing how good is he playing, at 3:04 he is watching how he is playing clean in the right tempo (after struggling on it before when he won the part) then at the end when he continues playing after the show finishes and he ask him what is he doing, he realizes he es becoming the "Charlie Parker" in the drums. They both left their problems behind and put music in first place. This movie is a masterpiece!
I think it's the latter. I wondered the same upon second viewing but don't forget Fletcher lost his prestigious job thanks to Neiman and that he didn't give him the right song... So his purpose was to make sure that Neiman was humiliated and never had a career in Jazz. But halfway through he realized that he achieved what he craved so much, which was to create a great artist.
The whole film is about him testing Andrew.
1:33 This small part is the reason why I keep coming back to this… the camera work, including all 3 musicians especially Nieman just grooving on their instruments. And then you learn it’s the POV of Fletcher coming over and the look of defiance on Niemans face just elevates the scene so much more. Absolutely phenomenal
The Greatest.......BRAVO from Mexico CIty!
Hard to appreciate as a non musician, amazing!
Bravo Vince.
Love yo pfp
The real mvp is the band for playing along with him.
Hecky_Thump I mean they were on the line too, so it's to save embarrassment from themselves as well.
Very true.
Caravan is a classic. Most of jazz musician know how to play the song because it's teached in music schools.
i believe most musicians would follow something like that.
Most jazz musicians probably wouldn't know this arrangement though, especially with the overlapping horn lines & call and response with the drums.
Fletcher just brought Neiman here to completely break him. To completely make him never touch a drumstick again. What a mad psychopath.
Neiman outdid Fletcher by not quitting. Neiman's a champion.
Actually, Fletcher was being abusive and cruel so Andrew would purposefully grow to hate Fletcher. That out of spite, he would improve himself as a big old "Fuck you" to Fletcher who kept putting him down. Fletcher's ultimate scheme was to make a great player through abuse and torment, for the student to hate the mentor so much, they become better beyond their mentor's expectation just to prove them wrong. This was Fletcher's philosophy, and Andrew proved him correct.
@@ayy-dree-in somone who actually understands fletchers intentions
did you even watch the movie? lmao, you didn’t understand a single thing.
If you don’t hate the teacher to the point of growing to resent them in order to prove them wrong, you’re not doing it right. The arts are like that. “Alright fuck you, I’m good now and do everything you don’t like with the style I like.”
@@mugetsu3509 I know you feel real smart right now for understanding the basic premise of the movie, but news flash, not everyone is the same as you and only a worthless idiot that lacks attention & validation would rub something so trivial in someone’s face
Can’t believe that there are still people that believe that drums are the easiest instrument to play after watching this
Drum basics are very easy, but playing well is definitely not
They are
Every instrument I easy, the Hard part, is playing it good, and without mistakes, in other words, perfect your instrument play
I mean you could pick up a guitar and not know where to start but drums you could do it purely by ear, not to say being a great drummer is easy just that its fundamentals are the most simplistic if that makes sense.
@@THOMAS2910able it does make sense but i play both and no instrument is easy
JK Simmons is so good even just acting as a conductor/musician. I worked in a college choir with a director who was EXTREMELY good at what he did (except he was a genuinely good person), along with many other directors throughout my time in music. All the mannerisms even to the slight shoulder twitch in the beginning are all things I've seen from different directors. He either worked with professional conductors or just went to a lot of performances and studied hard. Either way he did an amazing job.
He want to be a conductor in a interview
He has a music degree
Fletcher and neiman is one of the best master vs student type of protagonist and antagonist ever I think most people can agree
YES LOL
The Master
@@sufjan4877 Hegel?
Jesse and walt
Yoda & Luke Skywalker
Mr. Miyagi & The Karate Kid
Gandalf and the Fellowship
Mufasa & Simba
Professor Charles Xavier & The X-Men
Gordon Bombay & The Mighty Ducks
Agent K & Agent J
Ok you still win.
I love the fact it doesn’t show the crowd almost as if he is literally playing for himself
KidKlout-Voices .....give it a chance hope to inspire
Huh. Only just noticed that now.
If you read the original screenplay, there are moments in this scene where we are explicitly shown the audience and their reactions. I'm really glad they decided to go with the direction they did in the film instead.
Finn Keenan yes it shows 2 people but if you notice it’s like black in the back abyss like not an entire audience you know it’s as if the players are in there own world and he is playing for himself clearly why he kept going
Kyle Reese yes one of the best scenes in film to me
Kyle Reese definitely was a good decision, but i’m really curious to what the original idea was
J.K Simmons deserves a whole oscar for that role. evil-er than any kind of evil damn! thats a new level of act.
He did win an Oscar for that role lol
He won like 47 different awards for that one role
He must be buddies with Lex Luthor with that bald head... he messed with Neiman getting to bang Supergirl.
Not really evil, just one level of extreme.
I wouldn’t say his intentions or outcome are bad, but the way he gets there isn’t good.
I think the best part of this scene is that throughout this piece, is when Fletcher is constantly directing the band but has no focus on Andrew knowing he is perfect and needs no directing. I find this so interesting the level of trust Fletcher has with his former student even after his betrayal of him. I think it really fleshes out this whole story and shows what Andrew is willing to do to become the absolute best even if it coincides with his former teacher plans.
It might also be that at this point, he knows he doesn't have the respect of Niemann to actually get him to follow any cues he makes. So he just, didn't make them.
Terence Fletcher: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
Andrew Nieman: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
It's more like...
Terence Fletcher: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
Andrew Nieman: Are you sure about that?
You are right
its more like...
fletcher: im about to end this mans whole career
nieman: no you
@@bladesandswords6136 (Shot Fletcher) That's enough of your domestic action son!
Reverse uno card
It just ends with Fletcher saying not quite my tempo
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@@drummerboy0620 "I'm sorry little one"
Th3Shad0wF0x such an underrated comment
Lmao
Then he stares right at him and shoots him
Miles Teller one of the biggest Oscar Snubs of the 2010s. He's incredible in this. Just as good as Simmons and he carries the entire movie
I dont think anyone carries this movie. The writing and acting is great from everyone
Alexey G Simmons definitely makes an all time great performance
Yes, I completely agree. Oscars usually go to one-dimensional characters, usually ‘freak out’ characters or super pitiful/vulnerable characters. Miles’ character in this movie is often vulnerable and yet because of that, he had a toughness in him in wanting to prove himself. That in my opinion is way harder to portray than a character like Simmons’.
I think oscars aren’t really about how good an actor’s acting is, it’s more about how well the character manages to capture the attention of the audience. Big difference.
@@slothmanjay5029 that’s not true at all. Oscar’s go for any type of character
He was fantastic but Simmons stole the movie. He gave the best performance of that year by a mile and a half. But Miles Teller definitely should’ve been nominated.
Watched it today. this is so inspirational yet so heartbreaking
Yes watched it on Wednesday I was terrified and amazed at the same time
Just finished to watch absolutely amazing.
The most ironic thing is, had Neiman not gone through what he did in the band, he would have never had the balls to stand up to this guy. After facing such an imposing figure and learning that life went on regardless, Neiman realized he didn't give a shit about what Fletcher did or said to him. Life would continue. Fletcher would continue to lead a band, he'd continue living. Fletcher was all bluster - sure, he'd hit his band members? Gouge out their eyes? Hell no. His power came through fear. If Neiman isn't afraid of him, he is powerless. If he just wanted to please Fletcher, he wouldn't have attempted that solo. At that point, he was playing for himself.
exactly, and Fletcher got what he wanted, too...greatness from his player. Almost as if he planned it that way...
But he did hit Neiman
Fletcher is like the French driver from Ricky Bobby.
Well your interpretation isn't bad but according to the writer/director Neiman loses to Flecher at the end of the movie. If you watch the director talking about the ending he said Neiman will die of drug overdose in his 30s and will let leave Fletcher's control. You can see this at the end when Flecher tells him to slow down and Neiman follows his lead. It's really a sad ending to a character but still a great movie
Zenith Tempest you are so off
My class mates: our teacher is the meanest person ever
Me: ya seen whiplash?
Slippery Spooder The movie isn’t real. You know that right?
@@newkid9807 and neither is it meant to be realistic. Its mostly a metaphor about obsession taken to its extremes. Comparing it literally to real scenarios is stupid (like the person above did).
DatMomoAgain Hey stfu
@@newkid9807 bruh.
@@riyak.7393 its what I do
"now we're gonna slow it down a little bit"
…...plays caravan
40pth like 🙃
Your profile picture fits this perfectly
667th like you’re welcome
Caravan isn't an inherently fast song you poser.
Scott Cripps Almost like its the whole point of the scene...
I'm severely disabled (brain and body) and I'm preparing for a Master degree. I whiplashed my ableist research director with a new project because he didn't give me any resources for the previous one. I went ahead and contacted multiple teachers (a caravan) who all agreed to work with me and sent a group mail, including my director (who didn't respond) and the director above him (who agreed), explaining where I'm heading. I sent a private email to my director, trying to reconcile with him, and linking to this video. Master, you are my inspiration.
Edit: If I wasn't disabled, I would have left uni to be a bass player.
Great man I hope you succeed!
Hands down one of the best endings in cinematic history
Its pretty tragic too but who knows
It’s my number 1. No movie has ever had its credits roll and have me say “Wow” as loudly as this
I'm glad I was sitting on a toilet for that ending
@@AlecsdotwavI love me an intepretive ending
@@TheRedhenProductionsif you ever can get the chance, give 2001 a space oddessy a watch. The ending definitely had me on the same level of wow as the ending of this
As someone who played under the tutelage of a terrifying band director, I gotta say JK absolutely CRUSHES this role
Totally
Is crush in a negative way or positive way?
I think he means it as positive guys lol
That's me. His name was Alan fucking Cox, and he hated everyone. So many ppl went home crying after rehearsal. Got fired tho
I really doubt your band director hit you.
This scene should be watched every day for motivation
also just because it's a great fucking song
I listen to this song everyday during my commute to work. For inspiration/motivation
That wasn't the point of the movie at all
@@daaavid6344 You can interpret it however you like
Andrew was after this scene indeed the next charlie parker!
HOW TF MILES TELLER DIDN'T GET AN OSCAR FOR THIS MASTERPIECE?
I've no idea, because of him Andrew became my favourite fictional character. His performance was brilliant
@@militarydeviltube5014He’s small town level at best, other characters in fiction such as pre retcon beyonder are hyperversal+ and much stronger than him
@@vexed2576 ? lol
the film had a very low budget so oscars didn't really want to give one for this compared to the millions of dollars spend on other movies
@@vexed2576this isn't a contest of strength 😭
The fact that miles didnt get nominated is insane
I feel like its the best role he has played
Georgius u should also watch war dogs.it’s pretty good !
@@zakigaming837 thanks ill check it out
Meh. Theres better
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This movie is a classic.
Your profile pic is Machaizelli and I'm living
lumberjum555 ahahah
aaron burr, sir Yep, even though this is an indie film
Sure
It must be that time of the month for you.
He wasn’t even looking at the music.
Respect.
All of them would have known that music inside out by then ... such was the hold of Fletcher's cruelty.
Mai Nem not really, as a musician, when you practice it as heavily as these people do you memorise the music entirely.
As a drummer, most drummers don’t use sheet music when performing so it’s all memorized. either way, respect
Heart of Jazz is improv
"looking at the music
epic
Props to that bass guy. He has been with Neiman since the beginning.
Wow! Jeff Bezos is such an amazing actor!
WhaaaaaAaaaaat?
🤣
Aditya Deshmukh He looks like a Turtle
🤣
@RV Jarlos LMAO
How DAFUQ did Miles Teller go from this to Fantastic Four?
John Smithee that's what whiplash did to him
Hollyweird remember
Director’s fault probably. Miles was in better films like this than fucking Fanfourstic.
Wardogs was pretty good
He eventually made Bleed For This, so I believe it evens out.
Fletcher: "i will gouge your eyes out"
Andy: "ok bet"
immortal: "okay bet"
@@kmakesmusic7890 Thragg : "Ok bet"
andy is such a cute nickname
W
1:38 what’s funny is this fill isn’t in the soundtrack for the song so this was completely improv by Neman
Even though it's a movie, that's some insane drumming
Sir. Diddy Derps it's not him playing.
It's real mate, although it's copied from when buddy rich when he performed live.
I'm iChxz the drumming was actually done by Antonio Sanchez. It's not real. I research the fuck out of this film when it came out because it pissed me off so much.
Kevin Bothwell now I heard that miles teller can actually drum but not as good as the movie made him out to be.
Sergio_Zavaleta yea he can play, I've seen videos of him playing. He's just nowhere near as good as the film made him look.
this scene has more sweat and banging than a brazzers video
You really just copy and pasted a comment from the finale video, smh.
Ryan lmfao 😂
El Hoxo Oh no boo hoo! This is so sad someone on the internet copy and pasted a comment. The world has stopped functioning and the apocalypse has begun.
@@mkx-515 Oh no boo hoo! This is so sad someone on the internet was disappointed that somebody on the copy and pasted a comment. The world has stopped functioning and the apocalypse has begun.
C Lmao who said I was disappointed? I only commented to mock them and make them mod I couldn’t care less
Peter Parker would dance to this like it was 2007.
He would be fingerbanging to this*
:D
Pizza time
?
NOW DIG ON THIS
Shout out to the wingman piano player who joined in without any prompting!
But good
1:40 i loved it when Andrew hit Fletcher with the cymbal
I also love his "fuck you" at 0:48 x)
wow ive watched this movie like 5 times and never noticed that wtf]
What does Fletcher say when he walks up to him. Right before he hits Fletcher with the cymbal.
Strings 1043 "get out of here"
Strings 1043 "I will gouge out your motherfucking eye"
This is the best ending in movie history.
m a r i explain it please
The lives of others also had a great ending scene.
I agree. Kill Bill Vol. 1 ending was pretty good too bro
I like the live aid scene in bohemian raphsody more
With figth club
Alternate ending:
Andrew finishes and with a great sense of pride he looks at Fletcher who gives him a smile and then proceeds to walk up to his ear and whispers....
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"That was great you know, but not quite my tempo".
Then neiman stabs his sticks into fletcher's eyes, now that is a happy ending
he wouldn’t use the word great, one of the worst words that can be said to anyone ever.
@@shrishikesh2292 yeah and says " F you Fletcher turn my pages in hell b##ch!"
Superior ending perhaps lol
Directed by “Robert B. Wiede”
4:04 You have no idea how I love this shot.
As a drummer...this movie is exceptional. Gorgeous film making, outstanding music.
I just fucking love when Neiman hits Fletcher with the cymbal
this is why drumming in jazz is another level of insanity
Any other recommendations?
@@JoshJimenez_ ur mom jk
bird man listen to the soundtrack with antonio sanchez I think thats his name.
true af
@@JoshJimenez_ check out some Snarky Puppy, their drummer is absolutely insane.
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The music, editing, and camerawork in this scene is simply impeccable.
The thing is, the director said Neiman dies of drug overdose in his thirties, and Fletcher is still as arrogant as ever, thinking he was right all along.
Stephanie Rodriguez really?
Stephanie Rodriguez Is that really that much of a sad ending for Neiman, though? I mean, if you remember back to the dinner table conversation he had with his (family) where we see Nieman and his cousins’ ego’s come to a collision, Nieman mentions that he’d rather die of a drug overdose in his 30s and be discussed by people at a dinner table, than live to be 90 years old and have nobody remember his name. Maybe for Nieman this crazy, monk-like dedication and commitment to his craft is what gave him his happiness; even if that comes at the cost of finding true love, having a family, and maintaining meaningful, lifelong relationships with people. Happiness means different things to different people, just because Nieman’s idea deviates and sits outside of what is considered the norm, doesn’t necessarily mean his version of happiness is tainted or toxic when you compare that with the traditional path of finding love and forming meaningful connections with other’s.
Stephanie Rodriguez Well, Fletcher WAS kinda right in a twisted way. I don’t think Neiman would have been able to do what he just did if he hadn’t been pushed to his absolute limits before.
@@cookieking1996 Don't compare a monk with a over-dose idiot
@@Obscurum lol when I compare an imaginary drug overdose drumming legend to an even more imaginary monk and someone gets upset about it
Isn’t this basically a drummer version of Black Swan
Much less insanity in this movie
Yeah minus the complete mental breakdown
@@evantwo7862 there was a little bit of that. If just a tiny bit.
There’s a really good comparison video of Black Swan and Wiplash by a channel called “Lessons in Screenplay” that shows the similarities and differences. It’s really insightful yet also easy to understand
Minus some of the insanity
4:36 A small glimpse of Andrew actually having fun playing the drums.
Why nobody talks about this amazing trombone solo that is brilliant ?
Real, tears drop when i hwar the beautiful solo
2:11 damn, that camera work paired with that music gave me goosebumps. exceptional movie.
Not quite my tempo..
Oscar Corella This is my tempo
It earned it's Oscar in editing!
that has nothing to do with camera work thats editing sync to music..
Not really camera work just good timing and transitions
Best part was that "Caravan" was the song that Fletcher told Deiman "you're done." What I loved about this is it's Andrew basically answering "No I'm not."
Maybe if people would quit with the overdone "I'm going to end this man's whole career" there would not be such an unemployment problem.
Agreed
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What are you doing commenting on TH-cam videos. Shouldn’t you be at skinners house eating steamed hams?
...did he need one? He could jump in without a cue.
I regret that I just watched this movie today. It's been on my list-to-watch movies for a while but it wasn't in my interest to watch it at first and today I finally watched it. I'm still shaking and having goosebumps right now. definitely one of the best movies I've seen.
me too...
Best movie ending ever
best movie this decade
Really? I was expecting Titanic to be your favorite, *Jack Dawson.*
Yeah it's good. But... you don't believe it is a happy ending, do you? Andrew has lost his humanity and became a machine, his father knows it while he watch and obviously, Andrew is going to die in his 30s of a drug overdose or suicide, alone! That's what he told early in the film he would prefere and that's what he obtained...
ghostdog7575 that makes it better
yes it does...
I cant believe miles teller was able to focus on the intricate drum playing AS WELL as the exquisite acting in this👏🏽👏🏽
He's not really playing, only acting. The sound is recorded by somebody else.
@@RicoJazzhe did most of the onscreen drumming outside of this performance
@@OllieDunn06 I would need some hard proof to believe that, sir
@@RicoJazzHe himself is a self taught drummer
Show me the evidence?@@iviwenywebeni1842
Without doubt the most impressive, literally edge of your seat finish I’ve ever experienced with a film or movie. The entire film builds to this point and viewers are splendidly rewarded. Too many movies these days try to hit every angle, as if the protagonist thinks he can have it all. Well, the real world called and said you have a choice: music greatness or normalcy. I’m inspired by his drive. I think we would all be better off if all of us applied a couple years of intense, singular focus to our goals. Some might view see this as intense selfishness, but once you’ve completed it you can rest assured that the person you’re presenting to someone is the true person you are. Saves everyone the time and trouble.
It's an interesting debate, but I've come to the conclusion that total devotion to anything will only lead to ruin. I think you should stop at the point of excess. Nothing wrong with obsession, only excess obsession.
I like how there are continuous quick tilt shots from Neiman to Fletcher at 4:05 - 4:28, so fast and consistent, its like it was trying to give you...
whiplash.
that moment when fletcher knew, he creates a fucking monster
I can watch this scene million times with out getting bored
Mumin me too
film lover or music
Mumin watch Buddy Rich play it-no comparison
its like MAGIC
Absolutely
The acting in this movie is phenomenal !
Came after recommended by Mr Tamilan- movie review channel. ❤
Anyone else noticed the ''fu*k you'' at 0:47?
Yeah, he mouthed it
long overdue
"Anybody notice the climax of the movie"
The “good job” at the end is better.
@@rapisor where?
They made jazz look so fucking cool with these shots and for a person like me who doesn't get the appeal for it was so god damn invested till the end. Great movie.
Changed the speed to x2.0
Not quite my tempo.
Bernardo Sousa rushing or dragging?
The beginning sounds like a mother fucking blast xD
Can we STOP making those stupid jokes. I cannot tell you how many times I’ve seen “Not quite my tempo” or “rushing or dragging?” comments. Weirdly enough, those jokes aren’t getting funnier the more I see them.
Cole Davlan I guess they’re just not quite your jokes
sirgigalot Or no joke is funny when it’s made a thousand times.
What the movie taught is that, for some people, happiness doesn't come cheap. When life itself is constantly taunting you, dangling perfection in front of you, you have no choice but to chase it or die trying.
This scene showed me only one thing, at this point he wasn't trying to become the new Charlie Parker, he was trying to become Andrew Neiman.
Novadin ...didn’t Parker play horn tho?
@@omarbarraza5150 Yes he did, but their storyline matches up no matter the instrument, and Charlie Parker was a recurring reference and mindset for Andrew
Yet, he would share the same fate as Charlie Parker.
@@Zikk0_o how so?
@@N8Z_44 Both perfect their talent at the cost of dying young. Both gave up having a normal life, all in pursuit of being the best. Charlie struggled with heroin and mental health, Andrew would soon fall to the same fate.
Andrew: “I’ll cue you in”
Bass player: “ok I got yo back whiteboy”
NBA black boy
I just now realized he mouthed "Fuck you" to Fletcher.
Butt Sagget it was actually unscripted but the production lines decided to keep that as a funny joke anyways
Thanks I didn't watch the video
When?
Zi Ruini. 0:47
Unknown thanks, lol
Andrew walking in like he owns the place and cutting Terrance off is absolutely amazing, probably the best final scene in film history.
That fucking trombone solo man holy shit
Rhett Hathaway Didn't know they allowed plagiarism at Oklahoma University
Cesar lmao ive seen much worse in youtube comments
Nah..them keys walk the whole song
Cesar but do you know what they do allow at Oklahoma??? Good football you sackity ass shit
"I'll cue you."
"I'll kill you."
For Fletcher setting him up on stage.
Cuphead boss fights be like:
Gets a gameover:
Boss: not quite my tempo
Yes actually
XD
@@angel_exe24 XDDD
Dlc music boss that changes music based on phases
It's all based on tempo . If the boss likes it accepts his/her fate and let you win
For Neiman not only to go out there and play, but flawlessly play what many consider one of the most taxing jazz songs for a drummer…sheesh! Takes guts.
this performance of a jazz song is genuinely more epic and defiant than 99% of all action films.
it felt like a final boss battle
I feel like this film is a metaphor for an abusive relationship
No. This film is an abusive relationship.
Yes, they should had sit down and talk about their feelings.
Владимир Горячев they did in the bar scene
@@drummerboy0620 The bar scene was both of them faking out what they think of each other
Mattroid yeah I guess that’s a good point lol
I love this, it's literally Andrew stepping on Fletcher.
r2c123 but the ending solo is showing Fletcher won.
David How so?
No. he became one of the greats.
Brewing tea Gotcha.
I saw that u tube video too. But imo it's Seeing what isn't there. It's a dark film yes. But neiman overcame. It'd be somewhat accurate if they never met in the bar and fletch said the next great would never be discouraged. Had he walked off stage into his dad's arms the road would've lead to that of the previous suicider. But again he went back and conquered and became one of the greats. Cool dark story tho!
must feel nice to be this passionate about something
The cinematography on this is amazing. The close ups on the fine movements and the emotion in the faces, the overhead shots, wide angle lens views of the stage, the dolly tracking shots that move across to see the players, the call and response whip pans towards the end, the shallow depth of field (blurry background) prioritizing the hand action of the players.
The lighting is a very big part of the warm look the scene has and the stressed looks on people's faces. The editing is a major element too. And the sound is really well mixed. This is the director that made La La Land, which is another one I love. Makes sense it would have high production value.
Watching this scene for the first time and I’m just in awe of how it’s shot. They managed to show people sitting still on stage for five minutes and make it feel so incredibly kinetic
3:29 its been 3 minutes into the song and the bass guy's face still like "WTF dude"
4:38 that expression is haunting
Looks like he's trying to eat his own chin
That's a look of pain
Chuck E Cheese flashbacks
If you've seen tabla players,it's a very common thing when they play their instruments
That expression is when jerry hit tom, and tom become like a mouse
This was exactly my experience when I was a bassist in nyc music college 1978.
My conductor abused me but I became the best. Playing at the best shows around the world until I retired in 2001.
yeah sure.