@@samusx2175 Then wouldn't it cost cents to make an emulator for these systems and have them transfer over the console OS and just sell roms? Nintendo is sorta doing this but it's behind a subscription. IMO you should just buy the games themselves, but I'd rather do that and have the next system support the emulator then transfer the games over. They are still making money just by keeping the games available of retro games are so desirable.
@@Yellowredstone because then they can make more money off sales of remakes/remasters/collections of old games which they can "reasonably" price higher than a simple port which would get major flak for being priced high.
Yeah the big problem here is just greed. There's enough retro games at this point they could be selling them itunes style for $.99 and probably make plenty of money. But that would only point out how over priced games are getting especially digitally where supply costs are super low. They usually want at least $5+ for a rom. They now want games to be $70 now for a digital download or a disk that's worthless because it's also just an unlock key for a digital download.
I've been into the DKOldies drama for quite a bit after I saw the prices back in June, but it was always covered by more smaller sites. But now that Muta's covering it, this'll make more people aware of them. Take this drama as a reminder to support your local game stores.
@@Sonicfoxtrot They can, that's why I said a good one that tries to keep fair pricing and pour effort into making a loyal community. But you're partly right, LGS can scalp and rip off too. Also; Pirate, don't steal :)
Actually refurbished does not mean repaired - refurbished means to brighten or freshen up. So literally blowing compressed air in the fans can be considered refurbished. Refurbished has never meant what most think it means, which is remanufactured. A refurbished product is rarely taken apart and cleaned in the manner of which people think they are. Cell phone carrier insurance companies have been under fire for years for the same thing. Just because internet trolls don't know the definition, does not mean that DKoldies is some how scamming you. Their prices suck sure, I don't find Joey particularly humorous, but they are a business. Just because you can find that same product on ebay from someone with no overhead and no warranty doesn't mean that the retail price is wrong. People go to a retailer because they 1) get the 1 year warranty 2) they don't worry about getting their credit card stolen or getting scammed out of money with no product.
@@jonnadler628 if you actually did your research more into their scummy tactics you wouldn’t be defending them. There’s been consoles untouched by them with dust and rust inside the consoles. Is that freshened up? You said so yourself that refurbished means to. It is a scam.. charging people for a premium price to get untouched consoles. Then on top of that putting a warranty sticker on it and saying if you remove it you void the warranty, which is illegal in the United States by the way. They don’t want you opening the consoles because they know they haven’t done anything to them. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
I love that copyright disclaimer in the beginning considering how well known DkOldies has made it known that they will do anything to hide/avoid criticism
@@ByrneTheWorld10 I know that but get a damn hint. DkOldies has been removing comments criticizing them and if they got a big head about it, they could copy right strike someone’s video as retaliation for criticizing them and they could abuse TH-cam’s broken striking system.
@@ByrneTheWorld10 sheep even with all the proof you have been brainwashed to believe some you dont even know that will go out of their way to steal your money and lie to your face
Glad someone said it. Bought and Atari 2600 that was rusted from inside and overpaid for the console, not to mention it had plenty of scratches. Reminder this was back in 2018, and was my first and last purchase. Support your local flea markets and shops everybody. Edit: The original second controller was broken, so they sent me a second broken third party cheap controller!
@@AnarickTheDevil sucks for you. People like you are who they market to - I’m not trying to be a jerk buts a fact. I luckily have many end hand stores that I support and will never make a purchase from DKOldies after seeing this video.
Damn you got unlucky, I paid $10 for an Atari 2600 and 8 games and a couple controllers (no power cord I had to buy it separately for like $10.) at a flea market and it probably came out of the dudes attic. It’s worked beautifully and still works just fine today.
the worst part about the Wii repair, is that they only tested super smash bros brawl. the wii has 2 lasers. and Brawl is a dual-layered disc; an issue people saw on release was that some couldn't run the game because the laser might have decalibrated over time (?). they didn't even test gamecube games to see if those work.
@Mor MacFey oh shoot I never knew Kate had so much control over the financial side. As far as I've seen Scott and Drew will have Taran adjust prices, cause Ash isn't in charge of SYG anymore... tbh I'm not sure what he does now. Taran took it over a few months ago
@Mor MacFey to be fair I was skimming the whole long book that was describing Drews life and didnt even notice Kates title on the bottom so thats my bad, I wasn't trying to be ignorant haha. I've never heard anything about Drews wife in the time I've worked there, ever
I honestly wouldn’t care less if my collection dropped in price by a crazy amount, I just want to be able to collect the classic games again at a fair price... Edit: I’m honestly so happy to see that people feel the same way! Hopefully soon enough things will settle down and we can go back to collecting at an affordable price! 🙂
This. I get games and old hardware because it's fun to me, them being worth 5k or $5 doesn't matter to me. I've been buying a whole lot less in recent years when the prices have skyrocket. I don't even think it's people who actually play games who buy these games, especially that graded crap.
@@morbidgull8922i think it also depends on accessibility. Alot of retro ganes have value because you cant emulate or buy them on modern consoles. If people can rebuy them now they wont bother buying an overpriced old disc/cartridge and the related hardware to run and setup
@@mattelgersma4998 that probably is autocorrect actually lmao. Autocorrect always tries to turn "Companies" into "Company's" for me and other such odd quirks.
@@mattelgersma4998 I do. But when I'm on Utube I just choose to leave it wrong to annoy people who have have nothing better to do than clench their rectum sticks over other people's spelling.
Just a note: Sellers on eBay don't choose international shipping. As someone who frequently shops in the UK market as a US citizen (context: british style model railways), the listings for *all* items from the UK will be 40-50. If you're having issues with finding cheap shipping, try switching over to that listing's native country, eBay even lists the country of origin for them.
I worked in QA for a peripherals manufacturer (you've heard of it). We used to follow an acronym - AGAN (pronounced "again"). It means As Good As New. A product was not considered "refurbished" until it met this standard. Means it has to visually look passable as new. It has to pass every benchmark a new product would. Refurb is half a step below open-box, plus it's certified.
My same thought. It's Donkey Kong! The colors and the way the D and K are tilted are very similar. Unless his name is Dave Krasinski or something like that.
I used to be friends with someone who was obsessed with retro gaming. Most of his paychecks would be spent on buying up these old systems and games. Used to be in that racket too, until I realized how much price gouging goes into this market. Nowadays I either emulate or get a legacy edition.
This has been my favorite ReviewTechUSA arc for awhile, and I'm so glad to see others get in on it. And it's still going, thanks to continued incompetence by DKoldies! Seriously, the PS2 that Richie got from them was falling apart. Cracked controller ports and a disc drive that's clearly misaligned, all for $260!
Facts, I had a a local gamestore by me a few years ago and a fat ps2 was only $45 but another rival store it was $120, the 45 one was in better condition too needless to say I went with that one
Yeah that was absolutely insane. I'm glad he went the route ordering from an address that they couldn't pin down was him so they wouldn't give him a good console so he wouldn't bitch. What he got is what the average person gets
I stopped collecting in 2016 because Retro Gaming became more popular and money ruined it. Money ruins all of my fucking hobbies :/ i always have the shittiest luck of getting into hobbies before they get popular, then they always blow up and everything gets hella expensive, inaccessible, and lots of new people enter the community just to make a buck. Maybe that's part of the reason why my hobbies these days are things like reading, linux, programming, free open source software, and other things that are resistant to being ruined because of a high barrier of entry and low potential for monetization xD
Dk oldies and video game scalpers remind me of sneaker stores and resellers. Lately there’s been multiple big sneaker stores that have been shady af stealing money from customers and doing an NFT rug pull.
I used to be sneaker head a few years ago, around 2016 scalpers ruined everything by overpricing every shoe release to a point people stop buying from them or stop buying shoes all together and I’m one of those people.
I've been in the dkoldies drama since May 2022 and I'm one of the first to criticize them but I'm glad finally people like Muta are exposing them to more people.
Thank you for sharing from a different perspective showing what has happened in other markets! No really, it helps show that's exactly where this type of business leads.
@@MalikATL exaclty true some dunks I wanted were being resold for 300$ after release and for those sneakers I thought I was very worth it, but the very next week when I got paid and went to buy them they were being sold FOR 1100$
I've been in the dkoldies drama since May 2022 and I'm one of the first to criticize them but I'm glad finally people like Muta are exposing them to more people.
Love the fact that you also know magic erasers are indeed just high grit sandpaper😂😂 Honestly didnt think DKO could get any worse from everything I’ve heard but MAGIC ERASING THE GAMECUBE???? THAT SHIT HURT DEEP
The western console market prices is getting more ridiculous since the retro game resurgence, I’ve just been getting old consoles from Japan for fair or even cheaper prices even with shipping and import taxes
Damn really I order something never received it not from dkoldies. To this day I don't know what happened to it they said they'd send it but I don't know if the post office made a mistake. I had to go to many jumps before they give me a refund.
How??? May have been months ago, but you oughta follow-up on it if you may. They probably having an influx of bullshit on their customer service, but 400 dollars on some overpriced/noustalgic gamecube stuff should not be neglected-upon.
My heart breaks every time I think of the time I sold a box with 2 N64’s an original Nintendo and a PlayStation 1 that I found in my dad’s storage when I was 13 for $60 for all of it. I was sitting on a goldmine💔
I remember back in 2005 GameStop (I think it was still EB Games at the time) was selling used N64’s with a controller for $25 bucks! I’m glad I got one then even though I have intention of ever selling it.
I fear so many of us sell our systems and games when we're young, I sold my Gamecube and Gameboys with dozens of games for $100... thankfully I got into collecting retro games and re-acquired everything a number of years ago before the market really took off. I'll resort to buying my kids consoles and games from them if they're dead set on selling them and it really gets to that point.
How were you supposed to know back then? Honestly that shit doesn't matter. I'm 47 and owned all kinds of systems and games that got lost to time. Wish I still owned them not because all if a sudden they are worth more but because it would be cool to me to play some old games. Oh well, too bad so sad for me. What I do know is that I get an itch every once in a while to play some games from my youth which has happened to me recently and all I know is that it's 2023 and I'm going to research the emulation scene and play all that shit whenever I want and have all the games I want (for the most part) My nostalgia is me playing the actual game not owning some old system taking up room, fuck that. Even 10-15 years ago I remember saying to myself, I want a library of all the games from my youth across all kinds of systems on one machine. I didn't think once about buying old systems/games and I could have gotten all that shit for cheap but I didn't care then and I don't care now. That's the best way to look at it.
At our hockshop in town I saw a heartgold version in box for $550 or so in canadian and someone eventually bought it after it sitting on the shelf for half a year.
There's other sources of content that aren't supporting this lying, manipulative business. Even by subbing or watching their content you're helping this company. Might as well shop with them at that point lol.
Can't thank you enough for covering this DKOldies scandal. They have been doing this for years but was only covered by channels in the few thousand sub count but your the biggest one that has covered it so way more people are aware of them.
I’ve bought quite a few broken items from them to repair and resell. But I have to say, that there were several orders that were pretty ridiculous. It was obvious that they removed parts from the SNESs and Gameboys and listed them as “not working for parts” but would lead you to believe that all the parts were still there, it just doesn’t turn on. 😅
Me too! I’ve been asking (by asking I mean spamming in his twitch chat lol) moist critikal to do it for the last month. Glad to see someone that has this size of audience cover them.
Bigger youtubers like Muta covering this drama will only mean more and more will see how much of a scam they are, they are eventually going to get smacked with some sort of class action lawsuit.
If only they were doing something illegal. They aren't despite how much you scream about it. There is ZERO legal definition for what refurbishing means, nor is it illegal to over-charge for a old game console. If something arrives broken, and they refund or replace it, again they are not breaking any laws.
@@Ryan_DeWitt Not a lawyer but if it's somewhere in writing promising a refurbished product then you can start there. I was promised this, a fully working product that was refurbished. Now what is refurbished mean? It means to be made new by repairing, cleaning and painting new paint on the product. With the images promised on the website, what I got in the mail can be a good starting point. Again not a lawyer
Every game store near me pretty much looks up ebay and sets their price point based on that. Local mom and pop shops are already starting to overcharge and retro gaming is turning toxic
I can’t believe that I actually used to defend DKOldies, excusing their markups for what I thought are quality products that are actually refurbished properly. But I was just too damn gullible to their videos.
I found the youtube channel a few years back, but the only reason I never commited to buying from them WAS the pricing, and they weren’t clear on their refurbishing process. I didn’t know to what extent/how badly they price gouged until now, but even without insider knowledge, I got a weird feeling initially.
As someone who actually repairs consoles to resell I really hate this kind of thing, not just because of them scamming people but also the fact it's come at the expense of everyone who does anything like this getting a bad name because of sellers like them
I actually did a price comparison with them and eBay, with my items being a DS lite and Pokémon emerald, soul silver, and platinum. Dkoldies was selling those 4 items for over $700 total(note that all of them were “refurbished “), while eBay was only around $200 in good conditions for all 4 along with finding a complete box set of soul silver for 120 or so in a bidding auction compared to a “refurbished” soul silver for 220. Idk why people even buy from them in the first place, there are way better places to buy like eBay or if you’re lucky a retro game store like the exchange
Please spend $200 for a good condition CIB soul silver, a DS, Pokémon emerald, and platinum. Let me know how many of them are fake. Hint: they’re all fake
@Burger Pants I never said nor mentioned 80, i clearly said I found on eBay all of those for around $200 total plus you can find those games for less than 100, you just don’t know where. Also please read over my comment ik it’s a lot to take in
Reminds me of the 360 days when me and my friends would buy red-ring-of-death consoles and just change the thermal paste. Buy a console for fifty bucks, flip it for one fifty for ten minutes work. This sounds about as professional as we were.
What do you mean they don't refurbish their consoles? They posted a video not too long ago on their Facebook page where they were refurbishing consoles
@nathanielwilcox7294 There's TH-camrs who are posting the consoles they bought from DKOldies and lemme tell you... They do a bad job at refurbishing their consoles, they aren't that clean and aren't even repaired well sometimes. Maybe for others they got a clean working console, but that doesn't mean their actually refurbishing every console
I bought a SNES off them years ago. But it was just the shell with nothing inside. I sent them an email and there response what literally " Not our Problem" what absolute pricks!!
@Mor MacFey absolutely and they didn't even care. Laughed at me basically 😢 I flagged them because it was on FB and let FB know. But in the end nothing happened.
@@benhurbenstiller yeah I live in Australia and I guess it just wasn't worth the hassle. I put it down to getting scammed and left it at that. But in reality I should have done more. I guess lesson learnt 😥
It hurts to see just how ridiculous older consoles are being price gouged these days. I personally own a game cube, first gen PS2, PS3, Gameboy Advance and Wii. I'm sure if I cleaned them up and refurbished them I could make a tidy profit, but I feel like I would only be contributing to the problem. That and Im quite attached to my consoles. They're nostalgic in that they remind me of periods of my life not only in gaming.
I want to trust stores like DKOldies because it really sucks dealing with assholes on ebay. I've bought games where they show the correct stuff in their product listing, then switch out the disc (either by mistake or malice) and I don't get what I paid for, meanwhile the seller insists I'm the one trying to scam them. I hate interactions like that so much. I'm willing to pay a markup at businesses where I know I'll get what I pay for and if I don't, will have a good customer service team
Man, I’ve seen them get hate for price gouging and just thought “yeah it’s too high, but you know you’re getting a clean, working system” but dang, that was wrong
I remember being at a convention, found a collector's edition of Demon's Souls Asked the dude how much it was. He took out his phone and looked up ebay listings. Ive seen sellers for used goods with excel printouts with basically ebay prices but it implies there's a system or organization. At least that was more acceptable than "uhhh ebay sells it for 120$"
in 2012 a coworker bought me a Dreamcast (of the model type that didn't have the copy protection of the last generations) in a pawn shop for $20... That Dreamcast is still working to this day. I feel lucky that I got it.
I think it's a scam. I hate how overpriced it is. The fact that you have to pay extra for the box and the manual to avoid damaging the cartridge or disc and so you can learn the controls
Boxed copies with manuals are always more expensive than loose carts simply because they're more rare. It's not a thing DKOldies invented. From what I've seen they pack the stuff well enough to avoid shipping damage. Also cmon, you don't need a manual for the vast majority of games, and you can always find it online.
DKOldies and similar businesses shouldn't exist considering some local repair/electrical shops have actual professionals that can repair consoles properly. You know, qualified Electricians? Cheaper too infact. Asking DKOldies to repair and refurbish your console is like asking Mr. Bean to fix your console. I'm glad more and more people are calling out these retro/nostalgia scammers exploiting and ruining retro gaming for a quick buck. Now if we can see more people call out certain TH-camrs who e-beg/scam for tens of thousands of dollars while intentionally trying to inflate game prices with their videos, then that would be fantastic.
One of the worst parts about DKOldies is that they slap a warranty sticker on these consoles. They don't do this because they refurbish their consoles and are proud of the work they've done. They use it as a scare tactic to scare their customers since "opening up any consoles and removing the sticker may void the warranty" but in reality they just don't want anyone to see the insides haven't been touched. Also doubling down with videos and comments claiming they refurbish every console STILL when dozens if not hundreds of consoles have been bought and opened by TH-camrs showing the opposite... It's so shameless.
I will never get over the fact that DKOldies charged Mario Kart Wii for such a ridiculous price. The markup on Nintendo games/consoles by these scalpers is insane.
I got my own PS3s and PS4 for free, from people that said they didn't work. Took apart the one PS3, and the PS4, cleaned everything, and even replaced the thermal paste. The PS4 would shut down because of an overheating issue. After taking it apart and cleaning, and applying new thermal paste, it ran the entirety of Spider-Man with nothing more than a slight whine.
Over the last two years going to garage sales I've gotten: 2 Wii's with controllers and balance boards ($40 and $80) 1 NES ($15) 1 DSi ($10) 2 Xbox 360's ($25 and $20) 1 OG Xbox ($20) 3 PS2's 2 fat 1 slim (One free, $10 and $15 for the slim) 1PS3 slim ($15) That's not even counting the games I got with everything and found at other sales.
I've learned this just a few weeks ago, this is about to get big because Mutah covered it. Also, DK Oldies has been around for quite a few years. They are not new. It feels malicious because of these high prices and unfurbished products because they have been around for so long. they should know what to do at this point.
The weirdest thing I've seen from a DKOldies video is them preparing a PS2 bundle, and the added Assassin's Creed for PS3. They even state it's PS3, and it's a PS3 game, but they add it to a PS2 bundle anyway.
You got to remember they are in your head they know that some people want to relive the past super bad and they will pay anything to relive that nostalgia. Those kind of people aren’t the best
I remember a while ago I was gonna buy a copy of pokemon ruby for the gba. I really wanted a official copy as a collectable but didnt buy it because I couldn't justify dropping $100 on it. Thanks for this video so I know never to think of buying from them
If they claim to be refurbishing systems, and people are getting ones with visually broken ports, dusty insides, etc... then wouldn't this be false advertising on their part?
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Someone needs to Sue Dkoldies
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i love how gaming companies hate piracy, but dont take any measures to actually preserve games for their native hardware.
Because they don't care about fans, only money.
@@samusx2175 Then wouldn't it cost cents to make an emulator for these systems and have them transfer over the console OS and just sell roms? Nintendo is sorta doing this but it's behind a subscription. IMO you should just buy the games themselves, but I'd rather do that and have the next system support the emulator then transfer the games over. They are still making money just by keeping the games available of retro games are so desirable.
@@Yellowredstone because then they can make more money off sales of remakes/remasters/collections of old games which they can "reasonably" price higher than a simple port which would get major flak for being priced high.
It is a little silly. These companies seemingly want you to pirate by doing everything they can to fuck you over if you pay for it
Yeah the big problem here is just greed. There's enough retro games at this point they could be selling them itunes style for $.99 and probably make plenty of money. But that would only point out how over priced games are getting especially digitally where supply costs are super low. They usually want at least $5+ for a rom. They now want games to be $70 now for a digital download or a disk that's worthless because it's also just an unlock key for a digital download.
I've been into the DKOldies drama for quite a bit after I saw the prices back in June, but it was always covered by more smaller sites.
But now that Muta's covering it, this'll make more people aware of them.
Take this drama as a reminder to support your local game stores.
I agree but with a caveat. Support the good LGS lol.
Just steal old games at this point. Local game stores also inflate their prices bro.
@@Sonicfoxtrot They can, that's why I said a good one that tries to keep fair pricing and pour effort into making a loyal community. But you're partly right, LGS can scalp and rip off too.
Also; Pirate, don't steal :)
Same here
@oh no cringe detector shut up
Everyone: Refurbished means repaired!
DKOldies: Refurbished means freshly taken from the garbage bin.
A lot of their videos are literally just smearing ArmorAll on the plastic and jamming q-tips into plugs and ports lmao
Actually refurbished does not mean repaired - refurbished means to brighten or freshen up. So literally blowing compressed air in the fans can be considered refurbished. Refurbished has never meant what most think it means, which is remanufactured. A refurbished product is rarely taken apart and cleaned in the manner of which people think they are. Cell phone carrier insurance companies have been under fire for years for the same thing. Just because internet trolls don't know the definition, does not mean that DKoldies is some how scamming you. Their prices suck sure, I don't find Joey particularly humorous, but they are a business. Just because you can find that same product on ebay from someone with no overhead and no warranty doesn't mean that the retail price is wrong. People go to a retailer because they 1) get the 1 year warranty 2) they don't worry about getting their credit card stolen or getting scammed out of money with no product.
@Jon Austin yeah you just receive actual shit through the mail instead of a functional console lmao
@@jonnadler628 if you actually did your research more into their scummy tactics you wouldn’t be defending them. There’s been consoles untouched by them with dust and rust inside the consoles. Is that freshened up? You said so yourself that refurbished means to. It is a scam.. charging people for a premium price to get untouched consoles. Then on top of that putting a warranty sticker on it and saying if you remove it you void the warranty, which is illegal in the United States by the way. They don’t want you opening the consoles because they know they haven’t done anything to them. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
True I wouldn't trust ebay either 😂. Better off finding a close repair shop than either of the 2 online scams.
I love that copyright disclaimer in the beginning considering how well known DkOldies has made it known that they will do anything to hide/avoid criticism
The fact they're blocking these people, black listing them, and trying to get stuff taken down, is all the proof people need
They haven’t copyright struck anyone yet lol what are you on about?
@@ByrneTheWorld10 I know that but get a damn hint. DkOldies has been removing comments criticizing them and if they got a big head about it, they could copy right strike someone’s video as retaliation for criticizing them and they could abuse TH-cam’s broken striking system.
@@ByrneTheWorld10 sheep even with all the proof you have been brainwashed to believe some you dont even know that will go out of their way to steal your money and lie to your face
He puts that in all of his videos bro 💀 and I’m not defending dkoldies but when have they ever copyright struck anything
Glad someone said it. Bought and Atari 2600 that was rusted from inside and overpaid for the console, not to mention it had plenty of scratches. Reminder this was back in 2018, and was my first and last purchase. Support your local flea markets and shops everybody.
Edit: The original second controller was broken, so they sent me a second broken third party cheap controller!
My local place is just as bad and sadly there are no alternatives.
@@AnarickTheDevil sucks for you. People like you are who they market to - I’m not trying to be a jerk buts a fact. I luckily have many end hand stores that I support and will never make a purchase from DKOldies after seeing this video.
Still got my original 2600 from my youth, the only console I still own 😂 Hit me up if u need a copy of E.T., It's a real banger!
Damn you got unlucky, I paid $10 for an Atari 2600 and 8 games and a couple controllers (no power cord I had to buy it separately for like $10.) at a flea market and it probably came out of the dudes attic. It’s worked beautifully and still works just fine today.
Thank God, I have a mom and pop gaming shop 10 miles where I live.
And, they’re nice people too not fat neckbeard douchebags.
His arm and it’s proximity to that coffee cup actually made me sweat with how much he moves around hahaha I love this man
Same here. I kept thinking he was gonna smack it with his elbow and send coffee spraying everywhere.
This is 100% anxiety inducing that I'm amazed he didn't knock it over, let alone graze it
SAME
It's not live so no chance
tbh it might be the perspective but fr 😭
the worst part about the Wii repair, is that they only tested super smash bros brawl. the wii has 2 lasers. and Brawl is a dual-layered disc; an issue people saw on release was that some couldn't run the game because the laser might have decalibrated over time (?). they didn't even test gamecube games to see if those work.
DKOldies really seems like a front for money laundering
You seemingly have absolutely no clue what money laundering is.
@@kamb8sits when you accidentally wash a $5 in your jeggings
@Mor MacFey 1. That's not true, SYG and Drew set them and 2. Where does it say that on their about page?
@Mor MacFey oh shoot I never knew Kate had so much control over the financial side. As far as I've seen Scott and Drew will have Taran adjust prices, cause Ash isn't in charge of SYG anymore... tbh I'm not sure what he does now. Taran took it over a few months ago
@Mor MacFey to be fair I was skimming the whole long book that was describing Drews life and didnt even notice Kates title on the bottom so thats my bad, I wasn't trying to be ignorant haha. I've never heard anything about Drews wife in the time I've worked there, ever
I honestly wouldn’t care less if my collection dropped in price by a crazy amount, I just want to be able to collect the classic games again at a fair price...
Edit: I’m honestly so happy to see that people feel the same way! Hopefully soon enough things will settle down and we can go back to collecting at an affordable price! 🙂
Same, don't care how much my collection costs, I'd rather people just enjoy the games at reasonable prices
Wont ever happen as time goes on the games become more and more rare it makes sense they will only go up in price.
This. I get games and old hardware because it's fun to me, them being worth 5k or $5 doesn't matter to me. I've been buying a whole lot less in recent years when the prices have skyrocket.
I don't even think it's people who actually play games who buy these games, especially that graded crap.
@@morbidgull8922i think it also depends on accessibility. Alot of retro ganes have value because you cant emulate or buy them on modern consoles. If people can rebuy them now they wont bother buying an overpriced old disc/cartridge and the related hardware to run and setup
Nostalgia is expensive.
I love how muta has to put the warnings at the start of the videos because he knows how DKOldies handles any form of controversy lmao
Seams how most people/company's handle controversy's now days.
@@AnarickTheDevil u should turn on autocorrect
@@mattelgersma4998 that probably is autocorrect actually lmao. Autocorrect always tries to turn "Companies" into "Company's" for me and other such odd quirks.
@@mattelgersma4998 I do. But when I'm on Utube I just choose to leave it wrong to annoy people who have have nothing better to do than clench their rectum sticks over other people's spelling.
He has that on every video..
Just a note: Sellers on eBay don't choose international shipping. As someone who frequently shops in the UK market as a US citizen (context: british style model railways), the listings for *all* items from the UK will be 40-50. If you're having issues with finding cheap shipping, try switching over to that listing's native country, eBay even lists the country of origin for them.
I worked in QA for a peripherals manufacturer (you've heard of it). We used to follow an acronym - AGAN (pronounced "again"). It means As Good As New. A product was not considered "refurbished" until it met this standard. Means it has to visually look passable as new. It has to pass every benchmark a new product would. Refurb is half a step below open-box, plus it's certified.
My big question here is if Nintendo knows they are using the DK logo, I don't think that's legal.
Damn, did not thing of that.
My same thought. It's Donkey Kong! The colors and the way the D and K are tilted are very similar. Unless his name is Dave Krasinski or something like that.
I don't think they can copyright a logo that says DK, but they can copyright Donkey Kong
If copyright law worked the way you think it does SMG4 would be nonexistant
@@Moald An easy google search would show you that you can copyright even 1 letter logos.
About time bigger people in TH-cam pick up on their lying that they have been doing for years
Glad there’s been lots of creators calling DKOldies out they are part of the problem of why retro gaming is expensive
I used to be friends with someone who was obsessed with retro gaming. Most of his paychecks would be spent on buying up these old systems and games. Used to be in that racket too, until I realized how much price gouging goes into this market. Nowadays I either emulate or get a legacy edition.
I hate how they smashed the rare gameboy SP IQue to pieces because they believed it was a fake product.
what???
Wait fr?
@@mellowjellow6327 yep
@@Syndicate_LS gotta link to it?
Wait when was this??
This has been my favorite ReviewTechUSA arc for awhile, and I'm so glad to see others get in on it. And it's still going, thanks to continued incompetence by DKoldies!
Seriously, the PS2 that Richie got from them was falling apart. Cracked controller ports and a disc drive that's clearly misaligned, all for $260!
Facts, I had a a local gamestore by me a few years ago and a fat ps2 was only $45 but another rival store it was $120, the 45 one was in better condition too needless to say I went with that one
Quantum TV and this are pretty close for me lol
Yeah that was absolutely insane. I'm glad he went the route ordering from an address that they couldn't pin down was him so they wouldn't give him a good console so he wouldn't bitch. What he got is what the average person gets
@@pat9529 not even lose, tickled television was way funnier
It's not incompetence they're just grifting!
I stopped collecting in 2016 because Retro Gaming became more popular and money ruined it.
Money ruins all of my fucking hobbies :/ i always have the shittiest luck of getting into hobbies before they get popular, then they always blow up and everything gets hella expensive, inaccessible, and lots of new people enter the community just to make a buck.
Maybe that's part of the reason why my hobbies these days are things like reading, linux, programming, free open source software, and other things that are resistant to being ruined because of a high barrier of entry and low potential for monetization xD
DKOldies is catching heat from everyone lately and I fucking love it.
Dk oldies and video game scalpers remind me of sneaker stores and resellers. Lately there’s been multiple big sneaker stores that have been shady af stealing money from customers and doing an NFT rug pull.
I used to be sneaker head a few years ago, around 2016 scalpers ruined everything by overpricing every shoe release to a point people stop buying from them or stop buying shoes all together and I’m one of those people.
Man not tripping is doing gods work exposing those scammers.
I've been in the dkoldies drama since May 2022 and I'm one of the first to criticize them but I'm glad finally people like Muta are exposing them to more people.
Thank you for sharing from a different perspective showing what has happened in other markets! No really, it helps show that's exactly where this type of business leads.
@@MalikATL exaclty true some dunks I wanted were being resold for 300$ after release and for those sneakers I thought I was very worth it, but the very next week when I got paid and went to buy them they were being sold FOR 1100$
Been saying this the past couple years, glad people are finally talking about it more.
@@Bondeble people love to be first in line when it comes to knowing someone’s a bad person nowadays. Idk why lmao
I've been in the dkoldies drama since May 2022 and I'm one of the first to criticize them but I'm glad finally people like Muta are exposing them to more people.
@@Bondeble I'm not a bot lol
@@KaptainKharisma My thoughts exactly
People have been talking about this for 5 years or more. This dude is late if anything.
Love the fact that you also know magic erasers are indeed just high grit sandpaper😂😂
Honestly didnt think DKO could get any worse from everything I’ve heard but MAGIC ERASING THE GAMECUBE????
THAT SHIT HURT DEEP
The western console market prices is getting more ridiculous since the retro game resurgence, I’ve just been getting old consoles from Japan for fair or even cheaper prices even with shipping and import taxes
Fun story: I ordered a whole ass GameCube with some games for 400 bucks! I never got the games nor my money back. I still lament that to this day
Reverse charge the bank
Damn really I order something never received it not from dkoldies. To this day I don't know what happened to it they said they'd send it but I don't know if the post office made a mistake. I had to go to many jumps before they give me a refund.
I feel like this is actually grounds for legal action. If you ordered something and they took your money and never sent the item and refused a refund.
How??? May have been months ago, but you oughta follow-up on it if you may. They probably having an influx of bullshit on their customer service, but 400 dollars on some overpriced/noustalgic gamecube stuff should not be neglected-upon.
I'm sorry, but provide proof or this didn't happen.
My heart breaks every time I think of the time I sold a box with 2 N64’s an original Nintendo and a PlayStation 1 that I found in my dad’s storage when I was 13 for $60 for all of it. I was sitting on a goldmine💔
I remember back in 2005 GameStop (I think it was still EB Games at the time) was selling used N64’s with a controller for $25 bucks! I’m glad I got one then even though I have intention of ever selling it.
Bro i sold my psVita for 90$ in 2015 now theyre going for 150$
I fear so many of us sell our systems and games when we're young, I sold my Gamecube and Gameboys with dozens of games for $100... thankfully I got into collecting retro games and re-acquired everything a number of years ago before the market really took off. I'll resort to buying my kids consoles and games from them if they're dead set on selling them and it really gets to that point.
To be fair you still, sitting on one.
How were you supposed to know back then? Honestly that shit doesn't matter. I'm 47 and owned all kinds of systems and games that got lost to time. Wish I still owned them not because all if a sudden they are worth more but because it would be cool to me to play some old games. Oh well, too bad so sad for me. What I do know is that I get an itch every once in a while to play some games from my youth which has happened to me recently and all I know is that it's 2023 and I'm going to research the emulation scene and play all that shit whenever I want and have all the games I want (for the most part) My nostalgia is me playing the actual game not owning some old system taking up room, fuck that. Even 10-15 years ago I remember saying to myself, I want a library of all the games from my youth across all kinds of systems on one machine. I didn't think once about buying old systems/games and I could have gotten all that shit for cheap but I didn't care then and I don't care now. That's the best way to look at it.
At our hockshop in town I saw a heartgold version in box for $550 or so in canadian and someone eventually bought it after it sitting on the shelf for half a year.
Or maybe someone stole it lol
I don't collect or play games often myself, but on behalf of everyone else here, thank you Muta for covering this.
Id personally never buy anything from them but I love watching them ship peoples orders because its really satisfying
i spent like 29 mins just watching there shorts lmao
There's other sources of content that aren't supporting this lying, manipulative business. Even by subbing or watching their content you're helping this company. Might as well shop with them at that point lol.
The way they package a lot of it is dangerous for the system bruh
@@jbasher94 the amount made off 1 view isn't that much compared to actually buying something
@oh no cringe detector evidence????
Can't thank you enough for covering this DKOldies scandal. They have been doing this for years but was only covered by channels in the few thousand sub count but your the biggest one that has covered it so way more people are aware of them.
I’ve bought quite a few broken items from them to repair and resell. But I have to say, that there were several orders that were pretty ridiculous. It was obvious that they removed parts from the SNESs and Gameboys and listed them as “not working for parts” but would lead you to believe that all the parts were still there, it just doesn’t turn on. 😅
I've been waiting to see someone with a channel this big finally call out DKOldies for ages. Glad to see people are finally calling them out.
Me too! I’ve been asking (by asking I mean spamming in his twitch chat lol) moist critikal to do it for the last month. Glad to see someone that has this size of audience cover them.
Bigger youtubers like Muta covering this drama will only mean more and more will see how much of a scam they are, they are eventually going to get smacked with some sort of class action lawsuit.
You know if bigger TH-camrs talk about them, then you know they’re bad
If only they were doing something illegal. They aren't despite how much you scream about it. There is ZERO legal definition for what refurbishing means, nor is it illegal to over-charge for a old game console. If something arrives broken, and they refund or replace it, again they are not breaking any laws.
@@Ryan_DeWitt you could sue for false advertising
@@Jesse-jp8bt What exactly is false that can be proven and would even be worth the expense?
@@Ryan_DeWitt Not a lawyer but if it's somewhere in writing promising a refurbished product then you can start there. I was promised this, a fully working product that was refurbished. Now what is refurbished mean? It means to be made new by repairing, cleaning and painting new paint on the product. With the images promised on the website, what I got in the mail can be a good starting point. Again not a lawyer
Since you picked to be in the video we’re throwing in a free used napkin
“I sleep”
@@mickeymighty1866 “real shit?”
@@GoobHak 😂😂
Every game store near me pretty much looks up ebay and sets their price point based on that. Local mom and pop shops are already starting to overcharge and retro gaming is turning toxic
I can’t believe that I actually used to defend DKOldies, excusing their markups for what I thought are quality products that are actually refurbished properly. But I was just too damn gullible to their videos.
At least you’re willing to admit you were wrong. That shows character
I found the youtube channel a few years back, but the only reason I never commited to buying from them WAS the pricing, and they weren’t clear on their refurbishing process.
I didn’t know to what extent/how badly they price gouged until now, but even without insider knowledge, I got a weird feeling initially.
Trust your gut, and run far away from dk oldies
That's nothing...I sold all my Pokémon cards, including a holographic Charazard, for 60 bucks. One of the dumbest decisions I ever made in my life.
As someone who actually repairs consoles to resell I really hate this kind of thing, not just because of them scamming people but also the fact it's come at the expense of everyone who does anything like this getting a bad name because of sellers like them
I actually did a price comparison with them and eBay, with my items being a DS lite and Pokémon emerald, soul silver, and platinum. Dkoldies was selling those 4 items for over $700 total(note that all of them were “refurbished “), while eBay was only around $200 in good conditions for all 4 along with finding a complete box set of soul silver for 120 or so in a bidding auction compared to a “refurbished” soul silver for 220. Idk why people even buy from them in the first place, there are way better places to buy like eBay or if you’re lucky a retro game store like the exchange
Please spend $200 for a good condition CIB soul silver, a DS, Pokémon emerald, and platinum. Let me know how many of them are fake.
Hint: they’re all fake
@Burger Pants I never said nor mentioned 80, i clearly said I found on eBay all of those for around $200 total plus you can find those games for less than 100, you just don’t know where. Also please read over my comment ik it’s a lot to take in
@@kamb8s it’s not hard to legit check them lmao
@@kevyywevyy You are never going to find those items you listed for $200. Even without the CIB SoulSilver.
Reminds me of the 360 days when me and my friends would buy red-ring-of-death consoles and just change the thermal paste. Buy a console for fifty bucks, flip it for one fifty for ten minutes work. This sounds about as professional as we were.
That's actually... brilliant! 😂😂
Muta covering this is good. This will help people be aware of what DKOldies is doing by scamming others
Thank you thank you thank you for covering this! This is such a horrible company.
I remember back in 2010, I got a GameCube for 30 dollars with a copy of Metroid Prime for 2.99
Man I had an original copy of Lost Odyssey and i had no idea how much of a treasure that game would have become 😢
i see people defending DKOldies with “they’re a small business!” but their prices are absurd. they don’t even refurbish their consoles
What do you mean they don't refurbish their consoles? They posted a video not too long ago on their Facebook page where they were refurbishing consoles
@@nathanielwilcox7294 search up “dkoldies refurbish” on youtube you’ll find what i’m talking about
@nathanielwilcox7294
There's TH-camrs who are posting the consoles they bought from DKOldies and lemme tell you...
They do a bad job at refurbishing their consoles, they aren't that clean and aren't even repaired well sometimes. Maybe for others they got a clean working console, but that doesn't mean their actually refurbishing every console
@@nathanielwilcox7294 Nathaniel WilSuckCox
@@daniboy4153 Okay, fair enough. I'll check out some of these videos on TH-cam.
I bought a SNES off them years ago. But it was just the shell with nothing inside. I sent them an email and there response what literally " Not our Problem" what absolute pricks!!
@Mor MacFey absolutely and they didn't even care. Laughed at me basically 😢 I flagged them because it was on FB and let FB know. But in the end nothing happened.
@@tizzlefoshizzle3132 Should have gotten the police involved.
@@benhurbenstiller yeah I live in Australia and I guess it just wasn't worth the hassle. I put it down to getting scammed and left it at that. But in reality I should have done more. I guess lesson learnt 😥
Thank you for bringing this out. Maybe this’ll finally stop them or they’ll make another dumb comment about them “refurbishing their consoles” lol
It hurts to see just how ridiculous older consoles are being price gouged these days. I personally own a game cube, first gen PS2, PS3, Gameboy Advance and Wii. I'm sure if I cleaned them up and refurbished them I could make a tidy profit, but I feel like I would only be contributing to the problem. That and Im quite attached to my consoles. They're nostalgic in that they remind me of periods of my life not only in gaming.
They overcharge so much and then they give you a keychain to make up the 20-200 dollar markup for possibly an old and dirty system
Bro, it’s a gift. It’s a freebie that you can get. They’ve also updated disc only games to full box sets as well.
@oh no cringe detector guys don’t listen to this bot
I keep seeing this guy on TikTok and I thought something was going on. Glad you made a video to explain the situation
I want to trust stores like DKOldies because it really sucks dealing with assholes on ebay. I've bought games where they show the correct stuff in their product listing, then switch out the disc (either by mistake or malice) and I don't get what I paid for, meanwhile the seller insists I'm the one trying to scam them. I hate interactions like that so much. I'm willing to pay a markup at businesses where I know I'll get what I pay for and if I don't, will have a good customer service team
That cup in the back is STRESSING me out every time you reach for your mouse 😱😱😱
The way DKOldies handle criticism is just plain unprofessional and sometimes childish.
except when they got a death threat
You know its bad enough when muta does a video of dkoldies
you know its a bad comment when it begins with you know
@@jytvreal ?
@@jytvreal Read your comment again, slowly. 😉
@@Kuhneghetz I think the joke is lost on you lol
@@SlamDunkPyro Not really, since he also began his comment with a "you know", lol.
Muta: dOnt UsE WiNDozE
Also Muta: Has a Windows PC in the background
Someone in the comments also mentioned that Muta thinks a $200 PSP is expensive when he has like 4+ computer monitors.
Glad to see more people being aware of DK Oldies and calling out these clowns . Good job Mutahar!
I totally called that you would make a DKOldies video 😂 I love it
not to mention that their products are so incredibly high and always magically "on sale" for literal months and never change.
Thats their reason to lie and justify their prices
which is an illegal action. should get investigated by the FTC
I was worried the whole video Muda would spill the cup of coffee that he had on the desk 😅
having a backwards compatible ps3 is so cool, you can play ps1, ps2, ps3 natively, and then through retroarch you can play a ton of older consoles
The prices of retro gaming are so outrageous that I just stick to emulation.
Short answer: YES
Man, I’ve seen them get hate for price gouging and just thought “yeah it’s too high, but you know you’re getting a clean, working system” but dang, that was wrong
I remember being at a convention, found a collector's edition of Demon's Souls
Asked the dude how much it was.
He took out his phone and looked up ebay listings.
Ive seen sellers for used goods with excel printouts with basically ebay prices but it implies there's a system or organization. At least that was more acceptable than "uhhh ebay sells it for 120$"
You know it's gonna be a saucy video when it starts with the warning slates about fair use and such.
Yeah cause dkoldies will try and take down any video hating on them
@@ChaozSquad Oh hey, it's you.
@@ChaozSquadhello, crackhead Joey
@@ChaozSquad go play somewhere else kid
Muta is the type of man to spin in circles at blinding speeds inside of a payphone to become MutaMan
the comment of 2023
Lmao
was so expecting that coffee by your right elbow to go flying off at some point, very impressed it didn't! 😆
in 2012 a coworker bought me a Dreamcast (of the model type that didn't have the copy protection of the last generations) in a pawn shop for $20... That Dreamcast is still working to this day. I feel lucky that I got it.
I think it's a scam. I hate how overpriced it is. The fact that you have to pay extra for the box and the manual to avoid damaging the cartridge or disc and so you can learn the controls
Boxed copies with manuals are always more expensive than loose carts simply because they're more rare. It's not a thing DKOldies invented. From what I've seen they pack the stuff well enough to avoid shipping damage. Also cmon, you don't need a manual for the vast majority of games, and you can always find it online.
It's not scam it's overpriced if it is a scam then sue DKOdlies in right NOW
That open coffee cup had my heart racing for a while
DKOldies and similar businesses shouldn't exist considering some local repair/electrical shops have actual professionals that can repair consoles properly. You know, qualified Electricians? Cheaper too infact. Asking DKOldies to repair and refurbish your console is like asking Mr. Bean to fix your console.
I'm glad more and more people are calling out these retro/nostalgia scammers exploiting and ruining retro gaming for a quick buck. Now if we can see more people call out certain TH-camrs who e-beg/scam for tens of thousands of dollars while intentionally trying to inflate game prices with their videos, then that would be fantastic.
Crazy how much consoles have increased in price, just 2 years ago I bought a refurbished PS3 slim (250gb) for $60usd. Still works like a charm.
for anyone unfamiliar with DK, they're basically the bogeyman of the retro gaming world
That's an insult to John Wick
I’d say so yes. They cannot deny what they are doing no way those consoles are refurbished
The “coming out of the crypt keeper’s asshole” line has me geeking 😂😂😂😂
One of the worst parts about DKOldies is that they slap a warranty sticker on these consoles. They don't do this because they refurbish their consoles and are proud of the work they've done. They use it as a scare tactic to scare their customers since "opening up any consoles and removing the sticker may void the warranty" but in reality they just don't want anyone to see the insides haven't been touched. Also doubling down with videos and comments claiming they refurbish every console STILL when dozens if not hundreds of consoles have been bought and opened by TH-camrs showing the opposite... It's so shameless.
Was waiting for this one!
I will never get over the fact that DKOldies charged Mario Kart Wii for such a ridiculous price. The markup on Nintendo games/consoles by these scalpers is insane.
I got my own PS3s and PS4 for free, from people that said they didn't work. Took apart the one PS3, and the PS4, cleaned everything, and even replaced the thermal paste. The PS4 would shut down because of an overheating issue. After taking it apart and cleaning, and applying new thermal paste, it ran the entirety of Spider-Man with nothing more than a slight whine.
Bruh...imagine the kids that spent all that money...it's sickening.
I swear I’ve been thinking this for awhile now. Thanks for calling them out!
I hope DKOldies gets sued for their actions, we got enough scammers on the market as it is.
You can't sue for overpricing, overpricing is subjective.
@FilmBucket No, sue them for their "refurbishing". They literally do not do that.
That cup of coffee behind your elbow is giving me anxiety. 🤣
That coffee cup back @4:54 there making my anxiety 😟 go through the roof everytime he swings around, lol 😂
Finally, someone's saying what I've been thinking this entire time.
oh man i was waiting for this bro thank you
Over the last two years going to garage sales I've gotten:
2 Wii's with controllers and balance boards
($40 and $80)
1 NES
($15)
1 DSi
($10)
2 Xbox 360's
($25 and $20)
1 OG Xbox
($20)
3 PS2's 2 fat 1 slim
(One free, $10 and $15 for the slim)
1PS3 slim
($15)
That's not even counting the games I got with everything and found at other sales.
That full cup of coffee near his elbow stressed me the fuck out
You know it’s serious when he doesn’t start with his iconic laugh.
This makes GameStop look like they refurbished a Atari that looks brand new off the box
I was so scared for that cup of coffee sitting on his table the whole time. Then, Bam! The cup was gone.
Who knew the free keychain guy was pushing a scam. I’m shook
I've learned this just a few weeks ago, this is about to get big because Mutah covered it. Also, DK Oldies has been around for quite a few years. They are not new. It feels malicious because of these high prices and unfurbished products because they have been around for so long. they should know what to do at this point.
Muta always getting the hard pressing topics
The weirdest thing I've seen from a DKOldies video is them preparing a PS2 bundle, and the added Assassin's Creed for PS3.
They even state it's PS3, and it's a PS3 game, but they add it to a PS2 bundle anyway.
You can still buy the UK copy of soul hackers sealed for £33 on eBay. Not sure what import costs would be though.
You got to remember they are in your head they know that some people want to relive the past super bad and they will pay anything to relive that nostalgia. Those kind of people aren’t the best
I remember a while ago I was gonna buy a copy of pokemon ruby for the gba. I really wanted a official copy as a collectable but didnt buy it because I couldn't justify dropping $100 on it. Thanks for this video so I know never to think of buying from them
Be careful for fake copies
If they claim to be refurbishing systems, and people are getting ones with visually broken ports, dusty insides, etc... then wouldn't this be false advertising on their part?