Persona 3 FES - Secret Boss: Elizabeth (Hard)

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    Secret Boss: Elizabeth "The Ultimate Opponent" (Hard Mode)
    Battle Begins: 1:51
    Required Personae:
    Orpheus Telos (Not required but strongly recommended)
    Helel (Armageddon Fusion Spell) (Spell Master on either)
    Satan (Armageddon Fusion Spell) (Spell Master on either)
    Vishnu (Infinity Fusion Spell) (Spell Master on either)
    Ananta (Infinity Fusion Spell) (Spell Master on either)
    Required Equipment:
    Weapon: +10 All Stats or Telos weapon is strongly recommended
    Armor: Armor of Light (Messiah Heart Item)
    Feet: Any (If your not using a bow, shoes with Reduce Stumble can be useful)
    Accessory: Divine Pillar (Alilat Heart Item)
    Required Items:
    -Bead x20 (This is required if you do not have Diarahan/Mediarahan or Salvation on your Orpheus Telos).
    -Soma x3 (Needed for restoring SP to use Armageddon)
    -Homunculus x5
    Required skills on Orpheus Telos:
    -Unshaken Will
    -High Counter
    An ideal Orpheus Telos skill set would be:
    1.) Unshaken Will
    2.) High Counter
    3.) Mind Charge
    4.) [Element] Boost
    5.) [Element] Amp
    6.) Ragnarok / Panta Rhei / Niflheim / Thunder Reign
    7.) Salvation
    8.) Spell Master
    However you will most likely not be that lucky unless you do some serious fusing (It took me around 17 hours of shuffling to get the Orpheus I have). So I would just settle for 6/8 of those, while only excluding Salvation, Spell Master, and [Element] Boost.
    Rules you must follow or she annihilates you with a 9999 Megidolaon:
    1.) No Party Members
    2.) No Omnipotent Orb
    3.) No Null/Reflect/Absorb passive skills on the element she is going to use.
    4.) No Attack/Magic Mirrors or Tetrakarn/Makarekarn
    5.) No Armageddon over 10,000 HP
    6.) Defeat her before 80 turn/10 cycles
    Elizabeth Turn Order:
    1st Turn - With Surt, she uses Maragidyne or any physical attacks.
    2nd Turn - With Jack Frost, she uses Mabufudyne or physical.
    3rd Turn - With Thor, she uses Maziodyne or physical.
    4th Turn - With Cu Chulainn, she uses Magarudyne or physical.
    5th Turn - With Metatron, she uses Mahamaon or physical.
    6th Turn - With Alice, she uses Mamudoon or physical.
    7th Turn - With Nebiros, she uses any bad status ailment magics or physical.
    8th Turn - With Masakado, she uses Megidolaon.
    She Repeats this cycle after Turn 8.
    Strategy: There's too many precautions in this fight to make my strategy very helpful unless you plan to go with Fire as your element on Orpheus Telos (which I don't recommend). But first, you should know the strengths and weaknesses of every Persona she has in her possession, so that you know when to avoid using your attack and when to hit her weakness. Also, starting the fight equipped with a Persona that has all 3 Auto-Kajas is extremely helpful.
    My Strategy:
    0th Turn - Ragnarok (To get some extra damage in while Auto-Tarukaja is still active)
    1st Turn - Physical Attack or Heal (Mind Charge this turn on first cycle)
    2nd Turn - Ragnarok
    3rd Turn - Heal
    4th Turn - Ragnarok
    5th Turn - Physical Attack or Heal
    6th Turn - Physical Attack or Heal
    7th Turn - Fusion Spell Infinity
    8th Turn - Mind Charge or Salvation if poisoned
    I repeated this starting from Turn 1 until I had dealt atleast 9,600 damage to her, after this it pretty much comes down to luck on whether she hits herself from an auto attack on her second turn or not. Once she does she will be weak enough to finish off with Armageddon, if she reaches 50% HP on her turn (she has 20,000 HP) she will just heal to full with Diarahan and then it's game over.
    Comment: The reason I don't recommend Ragnarok to use in this fight is because your only time to hit her weakness is when she has Jack Frost equipped, whom is right before Thor which is the most threatening turn due to her chance to Paralyze. If her Maziodyne Paralyzes you and then she hits you with a Physical Attack she will have a 100% chance to critical you, and even worse she will get another free turn. And since you had to hit her with Ragnarok your last turn you won't be 100% HP which means your guaranteed to die.
    I only chose Ragnarok to RP since Orpheus starts with Agi :3.
    Party
    Odyssey - Level 99 (Required)
    Playlist for Persona 3 FES:
    • Persona 3 FES
    Recorded with Hauppauge HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition
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    System: Playstation 2
    Difficulty: Hard Mode

ความคิดเห็น • 497

  • @RadiataStories1
    @RadiataStories1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1625

    Elizabeth: I know several ways of inflicting pain. *hits with her book*

    • @sendylie1774
      @sendylie1774 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Makoto: *reflects attack*

    • @fjordon87
      @fjordon87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      This is Elizabeth we're talking about here

    • @softlystudent
      @softlystudent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sendy Lie I remember seeing you on Jotaro Vs. Anubis. Nice to meet you again

    • @noticeme6412
      @noticeme6412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yet her melee is stronger than Nyx’s strongest attack

    • @W.2026
      @W.2026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *hits with her book* BAKA BAKA BAKAAAA

  • @GameGuyandLuLuPink
    @GameGuyandLuLuPink 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1247

    "If you can't push it, pull it"
    "If you can't pull it, Megidolaon"

    • @alphakenny1620
      @alphakenny1620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      If you can't Megidolaon, Armageddon

    • @General_C
      @General_C 5 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      If you can't Armageddon...
      Well, your absolute fucked.

    • @adinatamuhamadmuchsinmuchs1887
      @adinatamuhamadmuchsinmuchs1887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True

    • @theinfamousguil
      @theinfamousguil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      armageddon only works on half hp

    • @theinfamousguil
      @theinfamousguil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      when liz is at half hp (10000) you cannot get absolute fucked. well if you survive another 10000 hp at least. 😀

  • @Le_Dom
    @Le_Dom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2022

    Elizabeth: deals more damage by throwing a card at you than Nyx does with his strongest attack.

    • @noticeme6412
      @noticeme6412 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Nyx’s strongest attack is Night Queen, isn’t it?

    • @17madman39
      @17madman39 6 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      Yeah but Nyxs strongest attack charms you and makes you heal nyx to full health

    • @cantufekci23
      @cantufekci23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      17madman not if you have narcissus flower accessory on everyone that has diarahan in their skill list

    • @flonnetheangeltrainee1713
      @flonnetheangeltrainee1713 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cantufekci23 The Tome of the Void is better for everyone

    • @johnboona4048
      @johnboona4048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@17madman39 Not gonna work if you have Unshaken Will

  • @JyujinPlus
    @JyujinPlus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +966

    See it’s funny about the ‘must fight alone’ requirement. Because Elizabeth doesn’t refuse the fight if you bring your friends.
    She just kills you.
    Meaning shes still holding back in this fight

    • @prettyplease1879
      @prettyplease1879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      you kinda take her by surprise using armageddon before she feels like she's starting to be in a pinch anyways

    • @ultragamer4465
      @ultragamer4465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      yeah by simple power scaling the attendants are infinitely powerful. they lack creativity and strategy which the protag has. We fight to convey that feeling

    • @hardcopetillo69
      @hardcopetillo69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@ultragamer4465 im not sure if they're infinitely powerfull than us, but since we can fuse and use spells by using two personas at once, maybe they arent like gods, they may have that potential, but since some of them aren't that much of adults (except margaret, of course) that could explain why we can fight them, even if we are just someone who has a special power.

    • @seunghoonyu6863
      @seunghoonyu6863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Actually, the reason she one shots you is because the party has a null skill. Take them early on when they haven't upgraded their personas and she doesn't auto-spam megidolaon. Never tried beating it with them cause they are at best canon fodder and worst extra turns for her so never tried beating her with the party.

    • @oldcat1790
      @oldcat1790 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@seunghoonyu6863 well, it still means she can megidolaon infinitely but chooses not to, to give you a chance

  • @Mattyjp28
    @Mattyjp28 7 ปีที่แล้ว +952

    You can tell a lot about a person by the music he chooses to listen to in Tartarus.

    • @carnagewolf1
      @carnagewolf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I like the Persona bgm

    • @tenkuken7168
      @tenkuken7168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      persona 2 is the legend

    • @1010otep
      @1010otep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      he playing a real shin megoomi tensay game dude

    • @A_Weegee_Board
      @A_Weegee_Board 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      What if I mute the game and listen to podcasts on my phone? lol

    • @Mattyjp28
      @Mattyjp28 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@A_Weegee_Board I would guess that it means you're tired of hearing the same songs on repeat 🤣
      I don't remember posting this comment at all lol

  • @SpecterReaper
    @SpecterReaper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +910

    Elizabeth: Please fight the opponent alone.
    Also Elizabeth: **Uses "Ma" skills**

    • @DoNotSuiciniv
      @DoNotSuiciniv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Guarantee

    • @SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC
      @SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      Single target skills kinda hurts more though. So she's putting in a restriction for herself.

    • @comunisman4368
      @comunisman4368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Just flexing

    • @asad9414
      @asad9414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Elizabeth's Ma-dyne spells are actually modified and different than the ones you have access to, even though they look the exact same. They deal much more damage than the regular ones.
      Edit: source:
      gamefaqs.gamespot.com/psp/971508-shin-megami-tensei-persona-3-portable/faqs/64770

    • @Honest-King
      @Honest-King 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC
      How ??

  • @OpXarxa
    @OpXarxa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +694

    The real hardest part about this fight is actually getting orpheus telos with a workable skillset.

    • @kratosgow09
      @kratosgow09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      The painful memory of spending too much time shuffling skills in the velvet room. Gives me conniptions!

    • @Alan-cm7ye
      @Alan-cm7ye ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I must satisfied with 7 skills. I want to change Akasha Arts with Salvation, but it's too random. Akasha Arts still useful for random enemies, thought.

    • @ZX-Gear
      @ZX-Gear 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have only gotten 6/8 skills once and even then it was a suboptimal build. The Death Arcana gives me the most headaches with Skill Noise. Seriously. Atlus should have given Persona 3 Fes the Golden Treatment.

  • @opadrip
    @opadrip 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1422

    Just imagine fighting Igor himself...

    • @jamesa.646
      @jamesa.646 7 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      opalander
      He's pretty weak,

    • @kazenna
      @kazenna 7 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      SPOILERJNMEAFOIJASDOIF
      No you don't, even if there's a slight relationship.

    • @claudiolancia319
      @claudiolancia319 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      what are you looking at? ...
      Well, not exactly.

    • @mosh6292
      @mosh6292 7 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      What are you looking at no but in persona 5 (Spoilers)
      The igor that you will fight is a god of control which is evil that took control of his body

    • @102xxScorpionxx102
      @102xxScorpionxx102 7 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      Try Philemon

  • @romiarkan450
    @romiarkan450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +607

    Unlike in 4 and 5, this is the only Velvet Room attendant boss fight which strictly demands that it must be one-on-one.

    • @sigmaenjoyer7020
      @sigmaenjoyer7020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      And has so many rules we have to follow or else, she one-shot you

    • @TheRawyan
      @TheRawyan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@sigmaenjoyer7020 *Laughs in Lavenza*

    • @kratosgow09
      @kratosgow09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Requires extensive preparation, and a deep knowledge of the game's battle mechanics. If you screw up your turns, you're done! Margaret, Caroline/Justine and Lavenza are much more forgiving.

    • @soba.
      @soba. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      like you couldve won with the p3fes dogwater ai anyway with the dumb rules you have to follow to beat her anyway lol

    • @Morichoradio
      @Morichoradio ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRawyan *Laughs in its so easy I can just myriad truths her ass*

  • @claudiolancia319
    @claudiolancia319 7 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    "You get a Megidolaon, you also get a Megidolaon, everyone gets a Megidolaon!"

  • @SpecterReaper
    @SpecterReaper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    "I apologize in- UHH UUUUU"
    "A token of my- NYERGH"

  • @genericusernamelast8914
    @genericusernamelast8914 7 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    Gets hit by book
    Strike Attack
    *takes 213 dmg*

    • @ulime
      @ulime 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      431 dmg

  • @notspiderman4158
    @notspiderman4158 7 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    11:06 you got so lucky if she had attacked with a Slash etc attack after you got shocked you would be dead

    • @cunnyman
      @cunnyman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      He got lucky wayyyy too many times in this video. He would've died in many of these occasions.

    • @Alan-cm7ye
      @Alan-cm7ye 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Gasp! Look out!

    • @thefunkyfish5640
      @thefunkyfish5640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@cunnyman I can only imagine how many attempts this guy did that were less fortunate. You have you get so lucky so survive this fight

    • @seanbenedictpacquiao3445
      @seanbenedictpacquiao3445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @anonimonovids
      @anonimonovids ปีที่แล้ว

      When You get shocked/frozen/petrified phys attacks deal triple damage, right?

  • @janussimonsen24
    @janussimonsen24 5 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Elizabeth: I apologize in advance.
    Misato: THAT DOESN’T MAKE IT HURT ANY LE... Oh wait, never mind. Time to solo win!

    • @Reevro
      @Reevro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      the letter s is nowhere near the letter n, how could you let that typo slide?

    • @KeepWalking2500
      @KeepWalking2500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Reevro weirder shit has happened in persona~

  • @TheKewlPerson
    @TheKewlPerson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    So I guess Elizabeth summons personas Persona 4 style

    • @gitgud3245
      @gitgud3245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      No she move the cards she dont brak them

    • @theinfamousguil
      @theinfamousguil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      r/youngpeopleyoutube

    • @pablo_giustiniani
      @pablo_giustiniani 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@theinfamousguil r/Ihavereddit

    • @vority2860
      @vority2860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pablo_giustiniani r/ialsohavereddit

    • @antonywu6672
      @antonywu6672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Renato Barros r/Ihaveredditaswell

  • @johnboona4048
    @johnboona4048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    This fight involves some luck with the rng of high counter iirc. You need it to go off on her second turn because if it doesn't and you deal enough damage she will cast diarahan on herself when her hp falls below the 9999 damage threshold.

  • @steam-powereddolphin5449
    @steam-powereddolphin5449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I know I've commented here before, but here are some key differences with this fight in _Portable:_
    -Skill cards exist to cut down the unnecessary time (and frustration) in the Velvet Room, and there are only a few skills that don't have cards.
    -Fusion spells exist as items. While you do need gems for them, you don't need the Personas tied to them anymore. Infinity and Armageddon are just as necessary, but Best Friends is also viable (IMO) because of this change.
    -The Paradigm Door (which appears in Tartarus' entrance in January) has powered-up versions of the previous Full Moon bosses (top row) and a few other challenges. You can get some pretty sweet rewards from these, including some of the aforementioned Fusion...items, skill cards, top-tier Incense Cards, Homonculus, and gems.

    • @reimumario4733
      @reimumario4733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      also in portable you can dodge elizabeth's attacks so equipment that increases magic evasion or skills like angelic grace are good to use

    • @mizzix
      @mizzix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reimumario4733 you can't in fes?

    • @reimumario4733
      @reimumario4733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mizzix yeah that's why using the divine pillar in fes is very important

    • @bagasadipramana5089
      @bagasadipramana5089 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In fes you can dodge, i use barbaric bracers during this fight. But it's riskier than using divine pillar

    • @ZX-Gear
      @ZX-Gear 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I prefer not having to grind for my Fusion Spells. Thank you.

  • @lucassworldofletsplays9270
    @lucassworldofletsplays9270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    The music for this fight is called Unavoidable Battle, but this battle can in fact be avoided. How? *By not accepting the quest.*

    • @СашаБланкОтветов
      @СашаБланкОтветов 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Или просто отказавшись сражаться с ней, уже прямо на вершине монада

  • @F3Krnn
    @F3Krnn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I wish they gave her own theme or "Battle for everyone's souls"

    • @ArclightLuna
      @ArclightLuna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      To be fair I feel this song fits

    • @KA-qv7be
      @KA-qv7be 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@ArclightLuna unavoidable battle is nice, but to be fair, you could easily miss this fight. So it's a little ironic to listen to while attacking Elizabeth.

    • @sirkinsella9831
      @sirkinsella9831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Honestly, They give Battle for Everyone's Souls as her theme in the fighting game. If your aware.

    • @BitchChill
      @BitchChill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Battle for everyone's souls definitely would've fit

    • @Aerodeth
      @Aerodeth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dont mind. I think giving her the boss theme for Evil Jesus's crew is rather fitting.

  • @purplekiller2429
    @purplekiller2429 7 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    And people say twins from p5 is hard

    • @limpeng7638
      @limpeng7638 7 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      Elizabeth is essentially a slightly nerfed version of demi fiend considering how many 'rules' she has in place. The absence of such rules such as null/repel/absorb persona, not to mention being able to use your full party against them+ OP sune really makes the twins much less of a challenge compared to Lizzie.

    • @mellamosteve331
      @mellamosteve331 7 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      purplekiller 242 Twins are a piece of cake if you know how to use skills, but this is luck near the end. I remember that it took me a while to come up with a plan to defeat Elizabeth

    • @dopeking1091
      @dopeking1091 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Elizabeth : i guess I'm the one who's going to give you the hardest time in the game
      Demi Fiend : Hold my beer

    • @thatballer306
      @thatballer306 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Beet the twins in one try thanks to Ann ryuji and haru
      Oh yeah looking foward to playing the awsomeness that is p3 fes for the first time buying it on psn for ps3

    • @kotarouriderblack6118
      @kotarouriderblack6118 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The kingdom knight on my way beating her. Good luck friend

  • @RegalPixelKing
    @RegalPixelKing 7 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Well it took me more than 2 FUCKING YEARS, but I finally bested her. It feels awesome to know that I have finally finished everything that Persona 3 has to offer.

    • @dharmairmansyah2844
      @dharmairmansyah2844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Try to fight margaret in p3p

    • @Thanatos9391
      @Thanatos9391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dharma Irmansyah in persona 4?

    • @GGsJane
      @GGsJane 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Thanatos9391 nah you can fight Margaret in persona 3 portable when you unlock the desert of doors

  • @mak_707
    @mak_707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    10 minutes into the ultimate battle and she fully heals

    • @ZX-Gear
      @ZX-Gear 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That is if you fail the Armageddon Vibe Check.

  • @Reilly-K
    @Reilly-K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Is it just me, or is that version of Maya's theme strangely appropriate for the protag's interactions with Elizabeth, both before and after battle?
    It's... melancholy... and I find that oddly fitting, for whatever reason.

  • @tyknight2488
    @tyknight2488 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I used to think when she said "I have chosen" that she said "I have chills"

  • @steam-powereddolphin5449
    @steam-powereddolphin5449 6 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    "A token of my apprecia-"; "I apologize in adva-" **High Counter**
    9:20 667 damage!
    I'm assuming that triggering the 9999-damage Megidolaon via breaking rules is not a one-and-done deal, even with the turn limit. Right? Because there's only so long you can keep casting Infinity.
    Using Armageddon is pretty damn risky, because you have to be *absolutely certain* that Elizabeth is below 10,000 HP in order to use it, otherwise she retaliates with *that* Megidolaon. It's still satisfying to finish her off with an attack that awesomely equals its power, though!

    • @zaqareemalcolm
      @zaqareemalcolm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      AzoriusGamer if u wanna be safe and a little extra, you can have a calculator on hand to tally damage lmao

    • @steam-powereddolphin5449
      @steam-powereddolphin5449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You realize I have calculator *apps* on my computers, right? I also play through the PS2 emulator PCSX2.

    • @Smoketrees1969
      @Smoketrees1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She has 20000 hp so just use armagedon when her bar is below half isn it?

    • @Gothaman1
      @Gothaman1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only way he could match her power in megidolaon was with 2 personas...but thats still quite impressive

  • @JustPersephone-o5w
    @JustPersephone-o5w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    "Try to kill me if you can."
    -gets repelled by her own attack-

  • @fanreader7847
    @fanreader7847 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just realized, her attacks were a hint for persona 4 card mechanic of summoning

  • @dragonstormx
    @dragonstormx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    She says she met someone stronger than her but she can end the fight anytime she wants, so really all she met was someone who could beat her when she pulled her punches.

    • @CircePenfield
      @CircePenfield 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Personally I always thought infringing the rules gave her the power to punish you for breaking them

  • @salmonfish4829
    @salmonfish4829 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    1:02 “Yes. I am referring to myself.”
    You also seem to be carrying yourself.

  • @unbubbletea
    @unbubbletea 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    You can use any element you want on Orpheus Telos. None of her personas have weaknesses and each one persona drains their respective element. Nebiros resists them all and the rest nullify. Don't use a Strike or Piercing weapon because two of them null strike and one nulls pierce. So not hitting her on the Jack Frost turn isn't a huge loss. It's probably better that you don't.

    • @OdysseyRPG1
      @OdysseyRPG1  6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Hmm it could be that her endurance is considerably lower when Jack Frost is equipped because I remember only hitting for 600-700 when she had Thor or Cu Chulainn equipped.

    • @SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC
      @SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nope. You see, when you use the compliment of an element (Fire-Ice, Lightning-Wind) against the element she used (In this fight, you using Ragnarok against her using Bufudyne), you'll get a 1.5x incentive in damage. That's why there's more damage

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC It's basically a soft weakness

  • @thatnerdinthecomments4678
    @thatnerdinthecomments4678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Sexy Dance is a skill?!
    Man, the Megami Tensei series has been weird for a WHILE.

    • @1r587
      @1r587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I wish I could learn it to use in reality.

    • @dreamviper3175
      @dreamviper3175 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      👁👄👁

    • @joshuagabrielcatindig7607
      @joshuagabrielcatindig7607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1r587 but wouldn't that wear off eventually?

    • @1r587
      @1r587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 Not if I keep dancing.

    • @joshuagabrielcatindig7607
      @joshuagabrielcatindig7607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1r587 sounds like a line in Dancing.

  • @ZeroDurability
    @ZeroDurability 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The only thing I hate about this fight isn't it's difficulty, its the fact the Elizabeth *IMMEDIATELY* CONTRADICTS HERSELF. She wants a fight with someone who has greater power than her yet has a bunch of rules. Now Armageddon spam I understand but nullifying/draining her attacks? Thats a natural thing Makoto would have by this point thus it isn't unfair.

    • @sigmaenjoyer7020
      @sigmaenjoyer7020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      She probably want to know how can human like Makoto struggled through against all odds and win against much stronger opponent.

    • @ZeroDurability
      @ZeroDurability 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@sigmaenjoyer7020 Yes and that would have been fine but she says "If I can face one whose power exceeds my own" Then has rules that bring you down to her level. The fight itself is great mind you I just don't like the contradiction. Then again it is a localization so it is possible that originally she wanted to face someone who was at least equal to her power. The other velvet assitant fights do it more as a test of what can be done with a wild card's power. Elizabeth though WANTS an opponent stronger than her but then drags that opponent down to her level.

    • @sigmaenjoyer7020
      @sigmaenjoyer7020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@ZeroDurability I mean even Margaret will punish you if you take too long with 50 turn 9999 Megidolaon, idk about Lavenza or the Twin since i never played P5 yet, but it's safe to say they still holding back alot even agaisnt end game mc in all persona games just from pure gameplay alone.

    • @gachagav_gc
      @gachagav_gc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@sigmaenjoyer7020 twins will complain, hit a weakness, then perform an all-out attack and same for Lavenza

    • @tristanraine
      @tristanraine ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@gachagav_gcif they can't hit a weakness, they'll do a forced knock down.

  • @W.2026
    @W.2026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Man, how do you get those personas? I'm currently 22 days away from the finale and no matter what I fuse I get the same 5 or 6 personas.

    • @RubyTheWitchRTW
      @RubyTheWitchRTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I can only provide one m8, Orpheus Telos.
      To obtain Orpheus Telos, you need to max out every. single. social link. On 1 continuous run. It’s very challenging, and iirc you don’t have much room for fuckup. But if you do max everyone out, you will get an item that allows you to fuse Orpheus Telos. Good luck! I recommend using a guide

    • @ilovetweek000
      @ilovetweek000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      if you're following a fusion calculator but you still end up getting trash personae, maybe you haven't maxed out the s link needed for that persona

  • @oliverpease6719
    @oliverpease6719 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love how megidolaon is a multi target spell and yet no boss uses it like that/ no player uses it like that

  • @claudiolancia319
    @claudiolancia319 7 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    By the way, did you notice that she summons persona in the same way as the investigation team, meaning with cards? Shouldn't Chie, Yosuke etc's personas be part of the compendium if that's the case? It's only a question, no hate please!

    • @coffee9146
      @coffee9146 7 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      No, the velvet people just use cards themselves. all of them do. Investigation team's personae are all unique to them, the same way everybody's persona is minus wild card users.

    • @claudiolancia319
      @claudiolancia319 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Aidan Smith I see... so the Velvet siblings use the compendium that contains all the personas a wild card user can fuse/summon, minus the specific ones like Orpheus and Izanagi. Thank you :)

    • @faragaroruga3229
      @faragaroruga3229 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Man...It's pretty sad you had to specify the "no hate, please" at the end
      I wish the internet was a nicer place :/

    • @ravenmerchant7151
      @ravenmerchant7151 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@faragaroruga3229 The Persona fandom especially. We're so cruel to each other when one has another opinion.

    • @Faceless_time_traveler
      @Faceless_time_traveler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The way persona 4 treats the investigation team is that they face the ugly side of their personalities to awaken their personas , but the protagonist didn't so maybe he follows the same rule as those of the velvet room ... I dunno I'm still not that far into the game

  • @blighttown169
    @blighttown169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Imagine doing this without beads.

    • @Alan-cm7ye
      @Alan-cm7ye 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Your personas must have Salvation if you don't have Beads

  • @m0thz746
    @m0thz746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    this is supeeer late but, anybody notice how she seems to know that fuuka is there as a screen?

    • @chris3904
      @chris3904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually just noticed that looking back at it lol, she moves her eyes a little in the direction of where the screen is

  • @sagoruzemo9557
    @sagoruzemo9557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Last time i heard this song I was the one one shotting people

  • @HellGod67
    @HellGod67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    So the hardest fight in this game is fighting an elevator attendant?

    • @W.2026
      @W.2026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well you can expect anything from a game where the most popular girl in your school agrees to date you provided that you drink 100+ cups of tea

    • @elgranhermano8872
      @elgranhermano8872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@W.2026 didnt know mitsuru liked coffe

    • @W.2026
      @W.2026 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elgranhermano8872 No, I meant Yukari. You need to have max charm to be able to form a social link with her (and eventually date her), and the quickest and most sensible way to increase your charm is to drink coffee at the cafe in paulownia mall after school.

  • @LightKing1237
    @LightKing1237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This fight wouldn’t be so hard if she didn’t get 50 attacks in one turn

    • @الدجاجالقيمر
      @الدجاجالقيمر 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you know that most bosses gets 2 attacks in one tern and she is no deffrint

    • @LightKing1237
      @LightKing1237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@الدجاجالقيمر ya they get 2 she gets 50

    • @Smoketrees1969
      @Smoketrees1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *COMMITS NOCTURNE MOT*

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@الدجاجالقيمر No dude. In FES, only really Nyx and Liz do that

    • @asurathedevigd3002
      @asurathedevigd3002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Smoketrees1969beast eye

  • @aleaiactaest6503
    @aleaiactaest6503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    About as hard as the average Nocturne boss.

    • @hcorvnov6732
      @hcorvnov6732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The fact she has uber pixie

    • @aleaiactaest6503
      @aleaiactaest6503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hcorvnov6732 if you're referring to the one you get at the fifth kalpa, that's fricking hilarious

    • @Zarathustra_infinite
      @Zarathustra_infinite ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah shes hard but have you fought demi fiend true pain I never want to experience I gave up maybe I'll come back to smtV one day I'm not playing the other smt games rn because I'm burned out

    • @aleaiactaest6503
      @aleaiactaest6503 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zarathustra_infinite beat demifiend

  • @fikriakbar4789
    @fikriakbar4789 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Remember when you think Elizabeth is the strongest secret boss fight???
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    2023 and still YES IT DOES

    • @ryanp7546
      @ryanp7546 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Demi-Fiend from DDS:

    • @chino-1291
      @chino-1291 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ryanp7546 fr

  • @evzenvarga9707
    @evzenvarga9707 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the worst fights I've seen in a JRPG, it's 5 hours of very specific preparations and then it's just doing a rotation of the same attacks again and again.

  • @Mene0
    @Mene0 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is probably the hardest attendant fight

  • @makoto-samaru8004
    @makoto-samaru8004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Masakado unsheating his blade with a megidolaon, is the coolest thing.

  • @moonbug7252
    @moonbug7252 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A token of my appreciatio-*AAHUH*

  • @rocketprime
    @rocketprime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Does this strategy still work on Beginner difficulty?

    • @zenr04
      @zenr04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ofc,
      The only way to defeat Elizabeth is your luck

  • @belmont1960
    @belmont1960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    jesus... and i thought reaper was the hardest boss. Never knew you could fight her.

    • @yodagaming5905
      @yodagaming5905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Imagine needing a calculator for a boss fight

    • @uyuuto99
      @uyuuto99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same bro...........

  • @smilinggeneral8870
    @smilinggeneral8870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    when i thought reaper and nyx was hard....
    although nyx was easier than reaper (if you didn't bring odin) though.

    • @LckD008
      @LckD008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I beat the Reaper without Odin at bout lvl 70 before fighting Nyx. It literally took longer than the final boss.

  • @beyondtheinfinite3263
    @beyondtheinfinite3263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Elizabeth can defeat Nyx effortlessly.

  • @edd4946
    @edd4946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My man put maya's theme as tartarus theme... Based

  • @eileenlucynakurosawa7421
    @eileenlucynakurosawa7421 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love playing through the Monad block, easy and faster way to level up.

    • @Kagetora-
      @Kagetora- ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same, certain enemies give so much exp

  • @avideogamemaster
    @avideogamemaster 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    how are you supposed to avoid 2 Megidolaons back to back without Infinity?

    • @psirockin2251
      @psirockin2251 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't? I don't know

    • @Gusztika3
      @Gusztika3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      You won't and can't.
      Bring a persona with infinity.

    • @LIONREV7
      @LIONREV7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is another combination that makes you invincible for 1 turn but it leaves you with 1 hp

    • @andresarancio6696
      @andresarancio6696 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The whole Elizabeth fight is a gimmick fest, you are supposed to use Infinity, Armaggedon and Orpheus Telos to win (I imagine someone actually beat her in more complicated ways, but pretty sure there is no way to bruteforce it).
      Which makes sense, it is an ultimate battle in a SMT franchise game, it is supposed to be hard and expect you to learn every littly thing of the game. Or read a guide

    • @zaqareemalcolm
      @zaqareemalcolm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Andres Arancio You don't need Orpheus Telos (the boss fight did exist before Persona 3 FES was even a thing), but it is more or less tailor-made for the boss fight due to his resistances.

  • @Mngalahad
    @Mngalahad 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    hey, is there a difference in this fight between normal and hard? I assumed that this super boss would do the same amount of damage regardless of difficulty or else, it wouldn't be hard.

    • @anonimonovids
      @anonimonovids ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Main difference between difficilties are mostly on stats, and how far the rng leans towards enemies

    • @anonimonovids
      @anonimonovids ปีที่แล้ว +4

      IIRC, MANIAC Straight up kicks off by denying carry over and also all enemies have +10 stats, +20Acc/Evade

  • @MetalPopka
    @MetalPopka 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I can't listen to Elizabeth's voice without thinking of Vert from Hyperdimension Neptunia.

    • @brusameba
      @brusameba 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I can't listen to vert withouth thinking about Elizabeth

    • @WirxawTanev
      @WirxawTanev 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounded like some granny.

    • @Audiblegaming
      @Audiblegaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

  • @adapperwalrus1662
    @adapperwalrus1662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love that he pulled out his gun to use an ability so many times

  • @Toriksta-
    @Toriksta- 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Now you've seen what great of guy he is, go and save him from his misery cause I have cried a lot at the ending of the game😭😭😭😭
    RIP YUKI😭😭😭😭😭💔💔

  • @teddysaliwa5770
    @teddysaliwa5770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "I apologize" proceeds to hit you with a book

  • @JazzyJac
    @JazzyJac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Isn't Elizabeth like one of the strongest or is the strongest V.R attendant? If so then It seems like Yuki is the strongest Protagonist since he took her down?

    • @dokkanbattleplayer2921
      @dokkanbattleplayer2921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not even close Tatsuya is the strongest protagonist

    • @tastethecock5203
      @tastethecock5203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Velvet attendants strength is distributed by seniority. Margaret is the strongest.

    • @oldcat1790
      @oldcat1790 ปีที่แล้ว

      So far P3 protagonist is the only one who can attack with multiple personas at the same time, fly, and perform literal miracles. So regardless of attendant power, he seems to be the strongest atm.

    • @GabyEzePereira
      @GabyEzePereira ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oldcat1790 He's one of the stongest not just because of those abilities. He was able to face nyx, one of those responsible for the creation of the CU.

  • @JoseLucasd
    @JoseLucasd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Blud really threw the most op skills, lost and then did a Evangelion speech😭🙏
    "Only i can decide who i am" shinji ahh speech

  • @spades_111
    @spades_111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Hardest Persona Boss Fight of ALL the SERIES!!!!!!

    • @farina2729
      @farina2729 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Josue Pineda still pales in comparison to Demi-Fiend

    • @spades_111
      @spades_111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Farina technically Demi fiend belongs to shinigami series not the persona series but I admit it's really a very hard fight

    • @farina2729
      @farina2729 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Josue Pineda Persona is a spin off of the SMT series tho

    • @andrewjohnson8919
      @andrewjohnson8919 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong

    • @Lucario1121
      @Lucario1121 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What makes her so hard? Kinda new to this whole Persona series

  • @zarcsakaki8758
    @zarcsakaki8758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you get and additional turn if you get a critical hit ?

    • @xc0xupx
      @xc0xupx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      No, she cannot be knocked down through a critical hit, so no additional turn.

  • @FyrenRei
    @FyrenRei 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    please can you tell me the fusion process you went through to have that Orpheus Telos. I want him with Ragnarok but i cant find guides that detail the process, they just say "get x skills and you are good". Please i beg you, i have the patience so ill do whatever it takes.

    • @OdysseyRPG1
      @OdysseyRPG1  9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't remember the process I did, but for Ragnarok I know it involves fusing a lvl 56+ Surt somewhere into O.Telos' spread. Use a fusion chart/calculator to help you determine which combinations to do. Make sure you're capped on yen when you do this, because there will be ALOT of high level fusing. Since you're gonna want to have as many of these skills as you can, on all the personae required to fuse O.Telos. Once you make a final product of Helel, Thanatos, Metatron, Chi You, Asura, or Messiah. I would register it to the compendium and then try to incorporate it into one of the other 5.

    • @FyrenRei
      @FyrenRei 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** i did it without the element amp and boost but with morning star and sharp student instead. I guess i got lucky cuz y only needed 4million yen. But thx nontheless :)

    • @OdysseyRPG1
      @OdysseyRPG1  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, how did the fight go? Also I forgot it's like 4x yen cost for fusing on hard mode lol.

    • @FyrenRei
      @FyrenRei 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** rough but i won through RNG bullshit :b
      Book of Enoch babyyyyy!!!!

    • @OdysseyRPG1
      @OdysseyRPG1  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice and congrats!

  • @anthonycrank6406
    @anthonycrank6406 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What is the song at the start of the episode? It's so....peaceful.

  • @CVicMagpantay
    @CVicMagpantay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So you don't need salvation on Telos like one of the gamefas guides suggested?

    • @nerothewateruser8030
      @nerothewateruser8030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't need it but if you can fit it into the skill list then that's nice

    • @CVicMagpantay
      @CVicMagpantay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nerothewateruser8030 k.

  • @eoghanfeighery7383
    @eoghanfeighery7383 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think this battle pretty much keeps you on your toes a lot!

    • @elcomemierda2624
      @elcomemierda2624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coffee9146 what happens if i bring my party members

    • @coffee9146
      @coffee9146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elcomemierda2624 She instantly kills you

    • @elcomemierda2624
      @elcomemierda2624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coffee9146 nice

  • @Slenderquil
    @Slenderquil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Liz is really out here bragging by using unnecessary ma- skills

  • @00F
    @00F 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how one of her attacks is just hitting you across the face with the compendium

  • @jadebayoba7073
    @jadebayoba7073 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun Fact: What you are fighting right now, is none other than Zero herself from Drakengard 3
    She also shares voice with the red haired one

    • @jadebayoba7073
      @jadebayoba7073 ปีที่แล้ว

      And she's playing just like in a Touhou battle... Great

    • @jadebayoba7073
      @jadebayoba7073 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Girl its Mitsuru that's literally your bias WHY did you not remember her name 😭

  • @insertnamehere2022
    @insertnamehere2022 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its interesting seeing fusion spells work so differently compared to the portable remaster

  • @thatguy7155
    @thatguy7155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's not even magic
    She literally just use her book and yeah no magic at all and yet she is very powerful

  • @HazasDump
    @HazasDump ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fuuka: "aRe yOu oKay?"
    Makoto: "No, I'm not!!"

  • @Galo_do_drip
    @Galo_do_drip 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wouldn't it be better to have 4 personas each with each severe elemental spell?

  • @KTH96
    @KTH96 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:36 Perfection...

  • @haseozenithmaru1186
    @haseozenithmaru1186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I apologize in advance

  • @milesstorzillo7650
    @milesstorzillo7650 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Elizabeth may have just been dethroned as the hardest Persona boss.

  • @paulogiovannialvarezramos112
    @paulogiovannialvarezramos112 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just realized that Velet Room attendants summon Personas the same way the characters on P4 do!

  • @kurosan9712
    @kurosan9712 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Still the best attendant fight in the series.

  • @SeekGrace
    @SeekGrace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:40 lol

  • @burritowyrm6530
    @burritowyrm6530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “I’ve been waiting for you”
    “I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS”

  • @mediaknight
    @mediaknight 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “I’m not as fragile as I look.” Immediately hurts herself trying to throw a card at you.

  • @Althioski
    @Althioski ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A token of my appreciatio-
    OOOUH UM!!

  • @BlitzkriegOmega
    @BlitzkriegOmega 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    how did you get your Orpheus Telos to have 99 flush stats? is that just the main selling point of that Persona?

  • @ImmaNort
    @ImmaNort 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice.

  • @irisdaniels2318
    @irisdaniels2318 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lmfao why is orthrus just there

  • @adindaproborini9047
    @adindaproborini9047 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    how you make lucifer.blade ? and.messiah.

    • @andresarancio6696
      @andresarancio6696 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Weapon fusion with Lucifer for the blade. Thantanos + Orpheus (normal one) after Judgement is maxed out for Messiah

    • @Emu_505
      @Emu_505 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andresarancio6696 dont forget lvl 90 player for messiah

  • @seanbenedictpacquiao3445
    @seanbenedictpacquiao3445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Elizabeth's diarahan is actualy like Margaret in pesona 4 but Elizabeth is way more harder lol

  • @NTheHedgehog
    @NTheHedgehog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I keep hearing she has all these different rules for the battle but I dont see what she means

    • @grotus5549
      @grotus5549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Use a persona that can nullify, reflect, or drain more than one property? Equip a persona that can null/reflect/drain the element of the persona she's using? Use an Attack/Magic Mirror, Tetrakarn, or Makarakarn during battle? Equip an accessory that nulls physical or elemental damage? You use Armageddon before she's below 10,000 HP? Fail to defeat her within her turn limit? You do any of those, Elizabeth will heal herself to max HP and then proceed to drop her special, max damage Megidolaons on you until you die. Think you're clever and use an auto-revival item on the protagonist? She'll keep dropping those on you until you stop getting back up. Also, failing to use Infinity on the turn she brings out Masakado means almost certain death.

    • @zaqareemalcolm
      @zaqareemalcolm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      James The Hikage fanboy She doesn’t tell you the rules; they were found out by trial and error (before anybody wrote any P3 guides i mean)
      It basically boils down to
      - Don’t have any elemental Block/Repel/Absorb
      - Don’t use attack and magic reflect items and skills
      - Don’t use the Omnipotent Orb
      - Don’t use Armageddon unless it reduces her HP to 0
      Shell repeatedly cast 9999 Megidolaon with Pixie if you violate any of these
      Elizabeth’s turns also follows a set pattern, and she will use 9999 Megidolaon (with Masakado instead) before it cycles back, so you need to use Infinity (Vishnu + Ananta) to survive.

    • @pizzalover4127
      @pizzalover4127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also if you bring even at least one party member she will megidolaon you for 9999 damage and it can't be reflected,absorbed, or dodged

  • @Arieline_D_fur
    @Arieline_D_fur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would still enjoy this boss fight even when makoto dies

  • @rocklobster4942
    @rocklobster4942 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If you don't have divine pillar is it possible to actually dodge her attacks?

    • @tankerlover2698
      @tankerlover2698 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      possible but her accuracy is very high. i use a modded skill in P3P to test dodge build (shoes of light + barbaric bracer + ali dance + angelic grace + premonition) not to mentioned 99 agl and some respective elemental evade/dodge according to her elemental turn. reaper just able to hit my char either 1 or none at all. same story with margaret. however elizabeth is on another level. not only her accuracy is high but she also hit like a truck. u can try dodge build but be expect to get kill in 1-2 attack. btw i test it on lvl 98 on maniac level (just some sort of challenge :P)

  • @newbplaygames
    @newbplaygames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we call her elizadeath for a reason

  • @KibaNaruFan432
    @KibaNaruFan432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This battle was a pain I could never do so. Also if u want the best equipment u have to beat her each time for a party member

  • @da_001
    @da_001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yea, reload doesn't compare. FES is still the king.

  • @jadebayoba7073
    @jadebayoba7073 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still dont get why she uses multiple target attacks

    • @zaqareemalcolm
      @zaqareemalcolm วันที่ผ่านมา

      i imagine the devs wanted to give a little reprieve since ma- spells have slightly lower accuracy
      doesnt account for most players usually coming in with a divine pillar or firm stance but w/e lol

    • @jadebayoba7073
      @jadebayoba7073 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zaqareemalcolm also ive heared ma- skills do slightly more damage??
      I don't think so tbh

    • @zaqareemalcolm
      @zaqareemalcolm วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jadebayoba7073 no they have the same base power as their single target ver. in this game

  • @theinfamousguil
    @theinfamousguil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i thought the shoes of light but it doesn't matter. since divine pillar prevents dodge.

    • @Alan-cm7ye
      @Alan-cm7ye 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried without Divine Pillar in Normal Mode, i won. Weapon: bow

  • @Pe6De
    @Pe6De 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wait... so this cheater gets to have two moves per turn, can use instant kill attacks, is immune to them and deals so much damage that Nyx can only hide in corner and cry... and we aren't allowed to have party with us?! We aren't allowed to use Armageddon? Man I hate such bosses with unexplained ability to instant kill.

    • @CereDulce37
      @CereDulce37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤭

    • @Pe6De
      @Pe6De 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Hope Bagel Nah, I actually changed my mind after so many months passed. Two moves per turn is fine, though it's a shame we can never do that and it's never explained how Elizabeth can move twice per turn. Her rules on the other hand... ugh.
      Also, I don't get the "Game Over" screen we get after losing. Does she really kill us? I just kinda cannot believe Liz's goal would be to murder protagonist.

  • @ZoruaHunter
    @ZoruaHunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the cue for using infinity?

    • @miraruiz3585
      @miraruiz3585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Every certain amount of turns

    • @israelip
      @israelip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks like every time she tries to afflict you.

  • @ArabicYeti
    @ArabicYeti 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not have a full team, spam Infinity to defend your team, and have them wail her down till Armageddon time?

    • @PhantomEnderium
      @PhantomEnderium 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you can only fight her alone, she won't let you bring a party

  • @averageral3192
    @averageral3192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why didn’t you use Armageddon in the beginning

    • @beepboop5135
      @beepboop5135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Elizabeth has 20,000 health and Armageddon will only do half of that. If you use it on the first turn, she will then fully heal herself, then drop a 9999 damage megidolaon on you as punishment.

  • @Cylix404
    @Cylix404 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the music before the fight starts?