I had a buildup in my tea kettle from the water. I put vinegar in the kettle, heated it up on the stove just to boiling . I then shut off the heat pulled it off burner and put 3 tbsp of baking soda in !! Soaked it in this over night. Took stainless steel scrubber to it , it completely dissolved. No CLR. Vinegar, rosemary, lemons, dawn dish soap and baking soda. Just thrown all into small bucket. Leave for 1 month to get concentrated, oven cleaner!! Works awesome and no more breathing in toxic fumes.
Muriatic acid is a diluted form of HCl and used to shock swimming pools. It is dangerous but will clean rust and concrete. It should beat vinegar. I doubt you will need to wire brush. Rinse completely. I would spray with penetrating oil afterwards to keep the surface rust from reforming. From what I see vinegar may be able to be out cleaned by muriatic acid, but vinegar is the safest and cheepest.
So, just a side note: vinegar IS an acidic item. Once you have cleaned the rust from your metal items using vinegar, rinse them in a water and baking soda bath. Then a light coating of 3 in one or wd 40, etc.
@@corylowe5557 baking soda is a base that counteracts the acidity so it won't continue dissolving the metal. It is used on battery posts for same reason, it stops the acid.
I have an $ outdoor bistro set advertised as rust proof. It is starting to rust after 2 months in New England summer? Could/should I apply vinegar to clean and then baking soda to neutralize? Is that enough? Has anyone successfully used any product that locks the rust out? Thanks!
I've never had CLR work on anything, I knew which product would work the best before the test started. Vinegar is also my go-to for cleaning the bottom of the toilet.
Nor rust related, but I was always told to use vinegar to remove calcium (mineral) deposits on my boat. Hardly did anything. CLR just wipes them away. No scrubbing.
@@patwalker9890. I find that it only works (on toilets) if all the water is drained and straight vinegar is used and allowed to sit for an hour or so. Not sure how you could get it to soak on your boat, but since the CLR is working for it doesn't really matter.
The CLR should have been mixed with water. CLR uses the H2O as a catalyst for penetration. Read the instructions on the bottle. They recommend mixing it 50/50.
And this is why specialists always tell you not to believe something just because its on the internet. Because you have unintelligent people posting things claiming them to be facts when in reality their stupidity made it their truth not a real world truth.... "heres your sign"
CLR is around $5.30 at Walmart (28oz). Cleaning vinegar (the good hard stuff!) is around $1.60 a gallon (64oz). And the vinegar will clean your countertops, stove and all, plus it's better in the laundry rinse than fabric softener, and it'll keep your drains from stinking too!
Over here in the UK, we don't have an extensive range of products in our supermarkets compared to you (America). But I'm sure I can find similar products online. Thanks for the video.
Please, never put poison of any kind in a food or beverage container. I spent 8 years recovering from drinking CLR in water that my roommate had in a drinking glass when I asked my friend to get me a glass of water and he grabbed that glass. NEVER put poison in a food or drink container.
What this guy said. It happens more than one would think. People get seriously sick and die more than you would think from People putting chemicals or cleaning supplies in water pitchers glasses ect. I have no idea what clr is or how dangerous it is. However it's just a good rule of thumb. Really cool video. Now I'm on my way to pick up some vinegar. Thx for saving me some cash
Care must be taken when using vinegar to remove rust from items that are/ were chrome or zinc plated. If left a day or so the vinegar will remove the zinc/ chrome plating. The problem is that there are carcinogenic elements used in both chroming and zinc plating and these will now be floating around in the vinegar/ rust soup. The most dangerous is the gold coloured plating with the slight rainbow/ oil-slick effect on the surface. This is called hexavalent chromate and it is highly carcinogenic to the point that it was banned in many countries. So, extreme care needs to be taken when disposing of the used vinegar and anything it has come in touch with it.
I have used vinegar in motorcycle fuel tanks to get rid of significant surface rust. It works beautifully, HOWEVER, the fuel tank then requires flushing out with hot water. Upon emptying the hot water and immediately using a heat gun to dry it out you are left with light flash surface rust. Your vinegar pliers appeared to have surface rust also after your final rinse. What I did after flushing and drying my fuel tank was to use evaporust which reacts with the raw steel and keeps it from rusting after flushing out that material. The evaporust is saved and is good for multiple rounds of doing this process. I'll put up a video on my channel soon doing another RZ350 fuel tank.
Strongly recommend you put boiling water in the CLR glass about four times before you try to drink out of it. That stuff is bad news if you get it in your body.
@@olblu8746: CLR at a 50/50 mix would probably eat the guts out of a radiator if not the entire cooling system. Much better to use a dedicated radiator flush.
Great helpful video! My grandparents had a thousand uses for vinegar! I use it constantly for all kinds of applications and I've never had great results with CLR. I watched your video and was curious about comparing the two. Thanks again!
My brother in law found a old ax head bared in the dirt. It had about 1"1/2 or more of rust on it. He soaked it white vinegar for 3 days and it came out looking almost brand new. It was amazing.
Great video. We use white vinegar to clean our coffee pot for the calcium build up, in the garage per my wife suggestion. White vinegar works but we put baking soda in the water and then use 0000 steel wool with motor oil on our tools. I wouldn't dare use my wife's glasses. Thanks again
sweet.. I been soaking paper towels in vinegar, covering in plastic bag, and its eatin rust off an old car.. I was curious about CLR and you just confirmed vinegar gobble rust better!
Some people just like chemicals. I just watched your original video and I'm a 100% white vinegar user. I came across your video because I had a tiny bit of rust on my knife that I'll be using for a meat cleaver and I was already in the process of using my white vinegar as I watched your original video. Vinegar is a win all day everyday, even on black mold! Wipes it out completely whereas bleach feeds black mold. I clean everything with white vinegar. Cheap, safe, and effective! Great video comparison. 💯
I use white vinegar for drain cleaning, shower head cleaning, window cleaning and it’s the absolute best and so cheap. I also rinse my hair with apple cider vinegar and water after shampoo and conditioner and it makes my hair frizz free, shiny and so soft. Magic stuff! Great video….I’ll definitely use vinegar on any rusty stuff.
ive done quite a bit of derusting with vinegar what ive found is walmart great value vinegar will work but is slow use white house vinegar because its more acidic and works way better that clr i would never use simply because mainly what i derust is cast frying pans or other food related items and i have a rule it if its not edible it has no use in food utensils and no washing an item doesnt remove all traces of a chemical thats why i only use food safe vinegar
Great test. I’m trying to clean up some steal beams in my basement that suffered from higher humidity while house sat vacant for six months. I’m going to try the vinegar.
Brother this was another great test you did. I Got my money on the vinegar. I am going to start using that on some of my truck tool. This will help me save money and stop buying new tools when they rust.
@@mackjenkins7721 I had a set of brake rotors laying in a corner of my backyard over a year ( replaced my daughter's with slotted/ drilled). Bought a used car that needed the same rotors...two days in 50/50 water vinegar solution and they brushed up with a wire wheel just about new!
I used white vinegar to remove rust from the exhaust headers on my F150. with minor wire brushing and a second overnight bath in vinegar they came clean and I primed and painted with 1200 degree paint. worked great. and will never use anything else. The reaction will eat aluminum so do it in a plastic pan and don't let the vinegar sit on concrete if you spill because it will damage concrete.
I just did the white vinegar and it worked great, i soaked about 300 rusty sockets i found at a garage sale for 3 days. Rust was still on them but mostly wiped/scrubbed right off with a dry rag. Wonderful results at a very cheap price
For instant rust removal you can use CRC Brakleen Non-Flammable Chlorinated Brake Parts Cleaner. If I can I avoid chemicals like CLR. These chemicals end up in our water supply and that can be bad for our health.
Awesome...I have a chain currently soaking in a bucket of vinegar. Of note...soak the items in a baking soda and water mix afterwards to neutralize the effects of the acid.
TWO THINGS... 1. I would have been curious to see if the vinegar would have succeeded on the second pliers where the CLR failed. 2. Zoes Kitchen is GREAT!
The tools were also two different models my two different makers and likely even two different metal compositions. I still agree, the vinegar is probably better (stronger) though and maybe more destructive if not careful.
Also something to note, some vinegars are 5% but it all USED to be 10% ... you can still get it, but you need to look around a bit more. Grocery stores usually have instead of wally world...
There is a Rest cleaner you used to find in all the Independent auto parts stores call Naval Jelly. It is muriatic acid in a jelly form. Watch the videos on cleaning rust off of stainless steel walks or cast iron pans it's the same thing, the rust is cleaned by the acid. I have a pool so I clean things with a small pan of diluted 5050 muriatic acid the rust boils away for a half hour then you can brush it clean with acid brush. If you're not set up to handle caustic liquids I would suggest don't do that. But the naval jelly is very clean you brush it on smear it around and just keep it in a plastic pan in your sink and rince thoroughly. It works great On Tools
My experience with vinegar is that it removes rust great, but rust creeps back in very easy. Obviously oiling or treating it after can prevent this. Not sure how clr compares on that front. Clr is also harder to gett off hands, small issue.
I had a massive leaking somewhere at the top of the water pump. I was going to use a "Stop Leak" product but wanted as clean of a surface as possible. I used about 1/2 cup of CLR, topped-off the radiator with a minor amount of water (it's already small, only 1.5 gals.), drove the car a few blocks. I added more water when I got home so overnight the dripping would allow the CLR to flow through wherever it was going through. Went out at 8am. VERY little water in the catch pan under the car. Poured that out, watched for dripping but there was NONE, not ONE drop. Drove a few blocks, parked back home. at 10:15am I went out and the catch pan was DRY!! I have no idea what the CLR did..... but my car now no longer leaks!! SO weird. UPDATE: Drove to the auto parts store for a fw items. No drips under the car. Stopped by the bank, then came home. Still no drips and the temp gauge stayed centered between Cold and Hot, perfectly centered. Ran the heater all the time I was out (not fun on a warm day lol ). So even with a heat-pressurized system, it still didn't leak!!
i wonder if it was a clogged thermostat that was bubbling the coolant and out the coolant reservior vent unless you literally watched a leak from the water pump housing...i bet the CLR dissolved the blockage or stuck thermostat
Clr will break rust down into fine particulars which will clog the leak. Many of the stop leak products do exactly that, except they add sand and grit and don't rely on breakdown of rust and metal.
Plain old white vinegar is my go to for rusty fishing pliers etc. I've had several very rusty pairs over the years and soaking them in the vinegar for 2 days followed by a good rinse and a coating of WD40 works like a champ.
Thanks 4 the video! I love 2 both save money and not use chemicals 4 anything. I am looking 4 something that stops rush stains from rusted nails on exterior walls b 4 painting. Not sure if vinegar will do the trick because it is a liquidy liquid so 2 speak and I need something that will not just run down the side of the house.
When it comes to cleaning a coffee maker I find that using the citric acid or coffee maker cleaner to work a lot better than vinegar. As soon as I dump the used chemical solution in the sink it brightens the metal a little bit. It also cleans up the drain. Our drain is at least 30 years old and lost its chrome plating somehow but the underlying metal still cleans up nice as soon as any of those chemicals touch it. We have hard water and it can leave stains behind that seem like no amount of scrubbing can get them off easily. They are rust stains and some people have gone as far as to try to sand theirs away. I just use a good acidic rust stain remover that effortlessly cuts through those stains. It is a dangerous chemical but it is a lot better than scrubbing a stain like that. The stuff I use dissolves it before your eyes and is too powerful for tool cleaning because it might dissolve the whole thing leaving only any non metal parts behind. Your wife might not like you using those glasses for the experiment but apparently CLR is harmless once rinsed out since some people use it in coffee makers. I would not use just any chemical in a coffee maker, if it is not all flushed out in time it might cause damage internally. Also you would not want that in your coffee.
You could use a cleaning strength vinegar that is available at Home Depot or Lowes . And that brush looks like it has brass bristles which won't scratch or very mild scratches . Or maybe to use a brush with stainless steel bristles that are much stiffer .
I've also used vinegar to eat mill scale off hot rolled steel sheets prior to painting them. The scale wipes off in 24 hours. Works great if you have a little time to spare. If time is money buy HRPO steel sheets. I used paper towels to keep the vinegar in contact with the steel while using as little as possible.
Thanks a bunch for this! You saved time, money, and and gave a great show. Tell the wife we said thanks for sacrificing the beer mugs. You got a subscriber just because I woulda done the same thing Brother! Lol
CLR is a rust STAIN remover, not a true rust remover. I think a lot of people miss the purpose of the product and it’s use cases. It’s great at removing rust stains and surface rust when agitated, but is not a product for removing rust from heavily rusted tools.
Using the cleaning grade white distilled vinegar would have really impressed you if regular white distilled vinegar did. It's much more acidic and will float rust off in minutes
I thought I was doing something wrong! I’ve tried Lime Away, CLR and other supposed chemicals for rust, lime etc. and they have never ever worked! I would have never thought to use vinegar on rust I use it for tons of things thank you!!!!
Real glad to find this vid. About to restore an old plane and brace'n'bit. Will defo try white vinegar first. Love the CLR colour though. You take care now.
As a sidebar (because it will take a week or more) use a 10% mixture of blackstrap molasses and water (90% water). this is excellent and a gallon of molasses from the feed store will make 50 gallons of rust converter. you can de-rust huge projects. Works very well.
I have used mollases BUT where it is rusty it eats into the metal. Cleaning wheel rims. And even after pressure washing off it goes rusty immediatly. I sand blast now. A lot easier on the metal.A friend used lemons,, does not eat alloy but again citric acid. Coke is good at cleaning brass and copper too. Will bring copper coins up nice [too nice]
I wish that you put the pliers in the vinegar to see if it helped get the pliers freeded up better. I never would have thought of using vinegar for rust removal. Thanks
Wish I would've seen this before wasting 20 buck on a jug of CLR, I always assumed it cleaned better but at best it doesn't seem to be any better than 3 bucks worth of vinegar
I use C.l r. On shower heads 1x. A year. And bottom of cooking pots&pans. Use a scrubber or steel wool/copper. I'm going try using the vinegar instead. Because its cheaper. But being careful in how to dispose of the containment after used.
Citric acid (powder) in water is another alternative that is particulatly good or items near food, more expensive than vinegar, but can make a more concentrate solution and doesn't have a smell. I like boiling 1/2 teaspoon in half filled kettle to remove scale. Being odour free it is particularly good for cleaning scale off humidifier tank of CPAP machine.
Yeah yeah pliers are clean.........But your POOL, IT'S CLEAN !!!! It's MARVELOUS!!! SOOOO NICE !!! SUCH BEAUTIFUL TILES!!! LOL I did subscribe to your channel and watched some videos. I came to the realization need to go fishing more often..........
Warning - Vinegar evaporates quickly and will give you a headache in a confined space. I was using it in a corne6 but solved it by using an electric fan when working there. A lid on the bath will save a lot of vinegar. Also you can buy the 30% industrial cheaper and just cut it back to 6% with water. Thanks for the video.
Vinegar is what I use to mop my floors. No chemicals and no sticky tacky stuff to make my flip flops stick and bug me. Love it for cooking and cleaning. I came to watch a video just because I wanted to avoid using some harsh rust removers over something okay for kitchen use
I was surprised at the finished result of my water impregnated tool kit. I soaked everything overnight, not expecting to recover anything! You can see the chemical reaction almost immediately. Vinegar pickles the metal. If used on edged tools, vinegar restores the cutting edge, on rusty files vinegar brought the files back to new status, also cleaned up a 5/8 tap. I washed the solution off and oiled my resurrected tools as soon as I had washed them. CLR works too, just not as good. Of course I could have used liquid drane cleaner, but it requires more care when using caustic solutions.
After you get the files clean. Take a large chalk stick and run over the file. Will keep them from rusting . When you get ready to use. Take a wire brush to the file. Be sure to put the chalk back on the file. Learned this at a Navy training school.
I have a vintage probably WWII era baking pan, about 15" x 24" long, heavy steel that says Lockwood 1944 on it, that is totally rusted. I found it in an Antique store. I would love to clean it back to metal and polish it just for the history of it.
What will the vinegar do to aluminum? I have an engine with a steel cylinder but the block is aluminum and I want to remove the rust from the cylinder.
Vinegar is good to remove water deposits. You can spray it on your sink let it stand and wash it off with a sponge to get it clean. But I never thought that it would remove rust. This proves you do not always need strong chemicals to get something clean.
White vinegar is definitely the way to go, I clean tools that way too. Why search for a fix to a problem that doesn’t exist...like you say it’s cheap, effective, and available.
I've got a rusty old drill press (the type you clamp a portable drill in) and if wire brushed it and sprayed it with rust converter. Now it won't slide at all! Any suggestions people?
Not doubting your results how does vinegar do on calcium and lime scale from hard water I know clr descales my shower head and makes it work properly after a short few hour soaking then filter through fine mesh strainer back to bottle for next time
I will use the vinegar; unequivocal from your demonstration that the vinegar outperforms the CLR. You should have used the same type pliers for both & the snips already had some movement though as this gives a fairer experimental setup.
I allow my tools to soak no less than 24 hours for stuck tools. Sometimes for 2-3 days. I rinse them off and they are a greasy like black. Then I use dawn dish soap and hot water and give them a good wash to get them good as new! More soaking less elbow grease.
There are lots of rust remover that could beat the vinegar BUT it would not be cheap and have harmful chemicals in compare to Vinegar which is food grade and cheap and can do the work fine.
@@soopacenter your not going to be able to prevent future rusting without some type of plating or paint. I would put some type of oil on the inside and paint the outside.
I think the CLR it works to remove the color of rust that means it’s working specially for removing the color from washing machine, so it’s work to save the color for your clothes 👍🏻. Try removing rust from the tools in two stages, vinegar first then CLR second.
I’ve found that white vinegar is a great way to clean the glass on a wood stove…much better than expensive glass cleaners. It goes without saying DON’T clean the glass when it is hot.
When CLR first came on the market years ago it had a much stronger reaction and worked likely 50% better than the CLR today. The CLR will have lasting properties the vinegar won't. However, the cost, the chemicals, and the hassle gives Vinegar the edge by quite a bit.
Two very different types of pliers. Box end lineman pliers versus sidecutter. Both worked about the same. CLR is primarily effective against calcium and lime.
I am trying desperately to remove stains from a white fiberglass jacuzzi tub. ANY ADVICE TO get it clean is soooo very appreciated. I’ve used the “new version of CLR “ , bar keepers friend, comet, all types of cleaning products, scrubbing bubbles Lysol nothing will get it off I’m desperate I don’t wanna have to put in a $1500 new tub only to have it staying again. Any advice is so very appreciative. Thank you.
I had a buildup in my tea kettle from the water. I put vinegar in the kettle, heated it up on the stove just to boiling . I then shut off the heat pulled it off burner and put 3 tbsp of baking soda in !! Soaked it in this over night. Took stainless steel scrubber to it , it completely dissolved. No CLR. Vinegar, rosemary, lemons, dawn dish soap and baking soda. Just thrown all into small bucket. Leave for 1 month to get concentrated, oven cleaner!! Works awesome and no more breathing in toxic fumes.
Nice!!!
thank YOU!
Metal treated with vinegar must then be neutralized to prevent flash rust. A short soak in a baking soda and water bath should do the trick.
Muriatic acid is a diluted form of HCl and used to shock swimming pools. It is dangerous but will clean rust and concrete. It should beat vinegar. I doubt you will need to wire brush. Rinse completely. I would spray with penetrating oil afterwards to keep the surface rust from reforming.
From what I see vinegar may be able to be out cleaned by muriatic acid, but vinegar is the safest and cheepest.
Just spray/wipe with wd40
It would be interesting to see what the second set of wire cutters after a follow up 24 hours in the vinegar after the CLR treatment. Good video!
So, just a side note: vinegar IS an acidic item. Once you have cleaned the rust from your metal items using vinegar, rinse them in a water and baking soda bath. Then a light coating of 3 in one or wd 40, etc.
Thanks for that I've been given a lot of gardening tools and need to give them a good cleaning.
why baking soda?
@@corylowe5557 baking soda is a base that counteracts the acidity so it won't continue dissolving the metal. It is used on battery posts for same reason, it stops the acid.
@@gregoryblair9810what percentage baking soda and water
I have an $ outdoor bistro set advertised as rust proof. It is starting to rust after 2 months in New England summer? Could/should I apply vinegar to clean and then baking soda to neutralize? Is that enough? Has anyone successfully used any product that locks the rust out? Thanks!
I've never had CLR work on anything, I knew which product would work the best before the test started. Vinegar is also my go-to for cleaning the bottom of the toilet.
Good deal!
Nor rust related, but I was always told to use vinegar to remove calcium (mineral) deposits on my boat. Hardly did anything. CLR just wipes them away. No scrubbing.
Yep, it's off my shopping list, advertising led me to expect miracles and all I got was meh.
@@patwalker9890. I find that it only works (on toilets) if all the water is drained and straight vinegar is used and allowed to sit for an hour or so. Not sure how you could get it to soak on your boat, but since the CLR is working for it doesn't really matter.
The CLR should have been mixed with water. CLR uses the H2O as a catalyst for penetration. Read the instructions on the bottle. They recommend mixing it 50/50.
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@@southernsalt Same thing with that Vinegar it needed water 50/50
And this is why specialists always tell you not to believe something just because its on the internet. Because you have unintelligent people posting things claiming them to be facts when in reality their stupidity made it their truth not a real world truth.... "heres your sign"
I had no idea about that thank you for sharing
I hope you cleaned everything up before your wife saw the results of your experiment.
CLR is around $5.30 at Walmart (28oz). Cleaning vinegar (the good hard stuff!) is around $1.60 a gallon (64oz). And the vinegar will clean your countertops, stove and all, plus it's better in the laundry rinse than fabric softener, and it'll keep your drains from stinking too!
Agree!
You can buy cleaning vinegar that's 40 times the strength of distilled
Yep, vinegar is a good product and price. It's Safer if you're drinking the cleaners, like the folks in another thread here!
Ya'll Take Care, John
Over here in the UK, we don't have an extensive range of products in our supermarkets compared to you (America). But I'm sure I can find similar products online. Thanks for the video.
I have always used vinegar in my laundry rinse. Leaves my clothes soft and it cleans the washing machine.
Please, never put poison of any kind in a food or beverage container. I spent 8 years recovering from drinking CLR in water that my roommate had in a drinking glass when I asked my friend to get me a glass of water and he grabbed that glass. NEVER put poison in a food or drink container.
So the CLR doesn’t wash out in a dishwasher??
How much was in the glass? The bottles say it’s fine for cleaning coffee machines.
What this guy said. It happens more than one would think. People get seriously sick and die more than you would think from People putting chemicals or cleaning supplies in water pitchers glasses ect. I have no idea what clr is or how dangerous it is. However it's just a good rule of thumb. Really cool video. Now I'm on my way to pick up some vinegar. Thx for saving me some cash
😂🤣😂🤣 the fuck????
@@josephdarline660 😂
Care must be taken when using vinegar to remove rust from items that are/ were chrome or zinc plated. If left a day or so the vinegar will remove the zinc/ chrome plating. The problem is that there are carcinogenic elements used in both chroming and zinc plating and these will now be floating around in the vinegar/ rust soup. The most dangerous is the gold coloured plating with the slight rainbow/ oil-slick effect on the surface. This is called hexavalent chromate and it is highly carcinogenic to the point that it was banned in many countries. So, extreme care needs to be taken when disposing of the used vinegar and anything it has come in touch with it.
Thanks for the info!
I like the effect, I didn't know it was dangerous, interesting
Wow. Makes sense to me. Thx.
Thanks 👍
I've plated small items using Aluminum foil and Coke a cola.
I have used vinegar in motorcycle fuel tanks to get rid of significant surface rust. It works beautifully, HOWEVER, the fuel tank then requires flushing out with hot water. Upon emptying the hot water and immediately using a heat gun to dry it out you are left with light flash surface rust. Your vinegar pliers appeared to have surface rust also after your final rinse. What I did after flushing and drying my fuel tank was to use evaporust which reacts with the raw steel and keeps it from rusting after flushing out that material. The evaporust is saved and is good for multiple rounds of doing this process. I'll put up a video on my channel soon doing another RZ350 fuel tank.
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Very informative. Thk u!
Strongly recommend you put boiling water in the CLR glass about four times before you try to drink out of it. That stuff is bad news if you get it in your body.
One suggestion: Try using the C.L.R. at a 50/50 mix with water. Because it is a dense liquid the water mix may help it to penetrate the joints better.
Thanks for the info I’ll give it a try.
Exactly..
CLR works better diluted..
I couldn't do a radiator flush with 50/50 C.L.R. with water. It would be too expensive. But it seems great for smaller projects. Thank you.
@@olblu8746: CLR at a 50/50 mix would probably eat the guts out of a radiator if not the entire cooling system. Much better to use a dedicated radiator flush.
What does the CLR say for directions on dilution? We don’t have CLR where I live.
Great helpful video! My grandparents had a thousand uses for vinegar! I use it constantly for all kinds of applications and I've never had great results with CLR. I watched your video and was curious about comparing the two. Thanks again!
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My brother in law found a old ax head bared in the dirt. It had about 1"1/2 or more of rust on it. He soaked it white vinegar for 3 days and it came out looking almost brand new. It was amazing.
Great video. We use white vinegar to clean our coffee pot for the calcium build up, in the garage per my wife suggestion. White vinegar works but we put baking soda in the water and then use 0000 steel wool with motor oil on our tools. I wouldn't dare use my wife's glasses. Thanks again
Motor Oil or WD40?
sweet.. I been soaking paper towels in vinegar, covering in plastic bag, and its eatin rust off an old car.. I was curious about CLR and you just confirmed vinegar gobble rust better!
Some people just like chemicals. I just watched your original video and I'm a 100% white vinegar user. I came across your video because I had a tiny bit of rust on my knife that I'll be using for a meat cleaver and I was already in the process of using my white vinegar as I watched your original video. Vinegar is a win all day everyday, even on black mold! Wipes it out completely whereas bleach feeds black mold. I clean everything with white vinegar. Cheap, safe, and effective! Great video comparison. 💯
Thank you!!
vinegar is a chemical ffs...........
I've used vinegar to clean out gas tanks with great results. Thanks for the video
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I always thought there was something other than CLR to clean rust! Thanks ☆
I use white vinegar for drain cleaning, shower head cleaning, window cleaning and it’s the absolute best and so cheap. I also rinse my hair with apple cider vinegar and water after shampoo and conditioner and it makes my hair frizz free, shiny and so soft. Magic stuff! Great video….I’ll definitely use vinegar on any rusty stuff.
That’s awesome to hear all the uses you get out of it!
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For hair - mustard oil and sunlight?
ive done quite a bit of derusting with vinegar what ive found is walmart great value vinegar will work but is slow use white house vinegar because its more acidic and works way better
that clr i would never use simply because mainly what i derust is cast frying pans or other food related items and i have a rule it if its not edible it has no use in food utensils and no washing an item doesnt remove all traces of a chemical thats why i only use food safe vinegar
Vinegar is amazing for so many things !
Great test. I’m trying to clean up some steal beams in my basement that suffered from higher humidity while house sat vacant for six months. I’m going to try the vinegar.
Thanks for the video! CLR works amazingly well as contact cleaner on copper. HD has 30% concentration vinegar.
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Brother this was another great test you did. I Got my money on the vinegar. I am going to start using that on some of my truck tool. This will help me save money and stop buying new tools when they rust.
Man I’m telling you I wasn’t a believer until I saw it for my own eyes. It works amazingly well.
@@mackjenkins7721 I had a set of brake rotors laying in a corner of my backyard over a year ( replaced my daughter's with slotted/ drilled). Bought a used car that needed the same rotors...two days in 50/50 water vinegar solution and they brushed up with a wire wheel just about new!
Thanks for the info. I am going to use vinegar and try to remove some rust from a few of my rusty tools.
I used white vinegar to remove rust from the exhaust headers on my F150. with minor wire brushing and a second overnight bath in vinegar they came clean and I primed and painted with 1200 degree paint. worked great. and will never use anything else. The reaction will eat aluminum so do it in a plastic pan and don't let the vinegar sit on concrete if you spill because it will damage concrete.
Good stuff!
I usually use multiple dips. CLR, wipe down, then vinegar and lemon juice, etc. Muratic acid might work too
Yeah man I just dip it in vinegar for the most part and it does the job.
Mutation acid?
@@johngangemi1361 *muratic acid (autocowrecked)
I just did the white vinegar and it worked great, i soaked about 300 rusty sockets i found at a garage sale for 3 days. Rust was still on them but mostly wiped/scrubbed right off with a dry rag. Wonderful results at a very cheap price
For instant rust removal you can use CRC Brakleen Non-Flammable Chlorinated Brake Parts Cleaner. If I can I avoid chemicals like CLR. These chemicals end up in our water supply and that can be bad for our health.
Um right... because chlorinated solvents are SOOOOO much safer than CLR. Duh, SMH
Awesome...I have a chain currently soaking in a bucket of vinegar. Of note...soak the items in a baking soda and water mix afterwards to neutralize the effects of the acid.
Thanks!
Can you please give the ratio of baking soda to water?
Why bother? It's not like you're talking about HF or fuming nitric acid LOL. Just rinse it off
Vinegar is has so many uses. Never thought of using for rust removal. I use vinegar as a cleaner for my hot tub when I empty it for cleaning.
Definitely has many uses!
TWO THINGS... 1. I would have been curious to see if the vinegar would have succeeded on the second pliers where the CLR failed. 2. Zoes Kitchen is GREAT!
The tools were also two different models my two different makers and likely even two different metal compositions. I still agree, the vinegar is probably better (stronger) though and maybe more destructive if not careful.
Hey thanks I am having to clean up my oven racks as they are all rusted. I might go for the large bottle of vinegar. Because this item is a lot wider.
Good deal, let us know how it goes.
Also something to note, some vinegars are 5% but it all USED to be 10% ... you can still get it, but you need to look around a bit more. Grocery stores usually have instead of wally world...
There is a Rest cleaner you used to find in all the Independent auto parts stores call Naval Jelly. It is muriatic acid in a jelly form. Watch the videos on cleaning rust off of stainless steel walks or cast iron pans it's the same thing, the rust is cleaned by the acid. I have a pool so I clean things with a small pan of diluted 5050 muriatic acid the rust boils away for a half hour then you can brush it clean with acid brush. If you're not set up to handle caustic liquids I would suggest don't do that. But the naval jelly is very clean you brush it on smear it around and just keep it in a plastic pan in your sink and rince thoroughly. It works great On Tools
1) Is flash rust a real thing?
2) does the vintage leave a permanent black stain to the metal or does it go away?
My experience with vinegar is that it removes rust great, but rust creeps back in very easy. Obviously oiling or treating it after can prevent this. Not sure how clr compares on that front. Clr is also harder to gett off hands, small issue.
It needs to be neutralized with baking soda immediately to avoid flash rusting then oiled or covered with a barrier spray.
This was really helpful for me as I'm preparing to replace a pipe. Thanks!
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All natural is best I wonder if brown vin. Would work.. love to see that!
I got a video comparing all types of vinegar with each other.
I had a massive leaking somewhere at the top of the water pump. I was going to use a "Stop Leak" product but wanted as clean of a surface as possible.
I used about 1/2 cup of CLR, topped-off the radiator with a minor amount of water (it's already small, only 1.5 gals.), drove the car a few blocks. I added more water when I got home so overnight the dripping would allow the CLR to flow through wherever it was going through.
Went out at 8am. VERY little water in the catch pan under the car. Poured that out, watched for dripping but there was NONE, not ONE drop.
Drove a few blocks, parked back home. at 10:15am I went out and the catch pan was DRY!!
I have no idea what the CLR did..... but my car now no longer leaks!! SO weird.
UPDATE:
Drove to the auto parts store for a fw items. No drips under the car. Stopped by the bank, then came home. Still no drips and the temp gauge stayed centered between Cold and Hot, perfectly centered. Ran the heater all the time I was out (not fun on a warm day lol ). So even with a heat-pressurized system, it still didn't leak!!
i wonder if it was a clogged thermostat that was bubbling the coolant and out the coolant reservior vent unless you literally watched a leak from the water pump housing...i bet the CLR dissolved the blockage or stuck thermostat
Clr will break rust down into fine particulars which will clog the leak. Many of the stop leak products do exactly that, except they add sand and grit and don't rely on breakdown of rust and metal.
Plain old white vinegar is my go to for rusty fishing pliers etc. I've had several very rusty pairs over the years and soaking them in the vinegar for 2 days followed by a good rinse and a coating of WD40 works like a champ.
Thanks 4 the video! I love 2 both save money and not use chemicals 4 anything. I am looking 4 something that stops rush stains from rusted nails on exterior walls b 4 painting. Not sure if vinegar will do the trick because it is a liquidy liquid so 2 speak and I need something that will not just run down the side of the house.
Try Evapo Rust -v- the white vinegar. I have used white vinegar many times, think it does the best for the cost.
When it comes to cleaning a coffee maker I find that using the citric acid or coffee maker cleaner to work a lot better than vinegar. As soon as I dump the used chemical solution in the sink it brightens the metal a little bit. It also cleans up the drain. Our drain is at least 30 years old and lost its chrome plating somehow but the underlying metal still cleans up nice as soon as any of those chemicals touch it. We have hard water and it can leave stains behind that seem like no amount of scrubbing can get them off easily. They are rust stains and some people have gone as far as to try to sand theirs away. I just use a good acidic rust stain remover that effortlessly cuts through those stains. It is a dangerous chemical but it is a lot better than scrubbing a stain like that. The stuff I use dissolves it before your eyes and is too powerful for tool cleaning because it might dissolve the whole thing leaving only any non metal parts behind. Your wife might not like you using those glasses for the experiment but apparently CLR is harmless once rinsed out since some people use it in coffee makers. I would not use just any chemical in a coffee maker, if it is not all flushed out in time it might cause damage internally. Also you would not want that in your coffee.
You could use a cleaning strength vinegar that is available at Home Depot or Lowes . And that brush looks like it has brass bristles which won't scratch or very mild scratches . Or maybe to use a brush with stainless steel bristles that are much stiffer .
I've also used vinegar to eat mill scale off hot rolled steel sheets prior to painting them. The scale wipes off in 24 hours. Works great if you have a little time to spare. If time is money buy HRPO steel sheets.
I used paper towels to keep the vinegar in contact with the steel while using as little as possible.
Good info, thanks!
Thk u! I’m going to try the vinegar. May add a little bit of baking soda
Thanks a bunch for this! You saved time, money, and and gave a great show. Tell the wife we said thanks for sacrificing the beer mugs. You got a subscriber just because I woulda done the same thing Brother! Lol
Lol hell yeah brother, appreciate it!!
The CLR actually seemed to take the surface rust off well, as you can see the pliers had a nice sheen after he used the wire brush.
I think vinegar attack metal wich make metal surface rust too.
CLR is a rust STAIN remover, not a true rust remover. I think a lot of people miss the purpose of the product and it’s use cases. It’s great at removing rust stains and surface rust when agitated, but is not a product for removing rust from heavily rusted tools.
Using the cleaning grade white distilled vinegar would have really impressed you if regular white distilled vinegar did. It's much more acidic and will float rust off in minutes
I did a comparison on here in another video using both side by side. Surprised at the results
I thought I was doing something wrong! I’ve tried Lime Away, CLR and other supposed chemicals for rust, lime etc. and they have never ever worked! I would have never thought to use vinegar on rust I use it for tons of things thank you!!!!
Real glad to find this vid. About to restore an old plane and brace'n'bit. Will defo try white vinegar first. Love the CLR colour though. You take care now.
As a sidebar (because it will take a week or more) use a 10% mixture of blackstrap molasses and water (90% water). this is excellent and a gallon of molasses from the feed store will make 50 gallons of rust converter. you can de-rust huge projects. Works very well.
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I have used mollases BUT where it is rusty it eats into the metal. Cleaning wheel rims. And even after pressure washing off it goes rusty immediatly. I sand blast now. A lot easier on the metal.A friend used lemons,, does not eat alloy but again citric acid. Coke is good at cleaning brass and copper too. Will bring copper coins up nice [too nice]
I wish that you put the pliers in the vinegar to see if it helped get the pliers freeded up better. I never would have thought of using vinegar for rust removal. Thanks
Wish I would've seen this before wasting 20 buck on a jug of CLR, I always assumed it cleaned better but at best it doesn't seem to be any better than 3 bucks worth of vinegar
Yep, I’d be interested in getting your input on the CLR performance
I think this guy is a lobbiest for the vinegar industry:)
If it works it works lol
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@@southernsalt vinegar not the most profitable industry! 😂
Big vinegar playing it’s game 😅
Larceny on a grand scale
Good video. Thanks for the tip. Just curious how would coke compare?
Thanks for sharing. Will try vinegar on my motorcycle handles. In my opinion from what I saw I'm going with the vinegar.
I can hear your wife from here... Now get to staining that deck and stop playing consumer tester, LoL 😂
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@@southernsaltis the deck stained yet ? 😂
I use C.l r. On shower heads 1x. A year. And bottom of cooking pots&pans. Use a scrubber or steel wool/copper. I'm going try using the vinegar instead. Because its cheaper. But being careful in how to dispose of the containment after used.
Let us know if the vinegar works better for you
Citric acid (powder) in water is another alternative that is particulatly good or items near food, more expensive than vinegar, but can make a more concentrate solution and doesn't have a smell. I like boiling 1/2 teaspoon in half filled kettle to remove scale.
Being odour free it is particularly good for cleaning scale off humidifier tank of CPAP machine.
White vinegar is also great for cleaning corroded battery terminals. Been using it for years.
Yeah yeah pliers are clean.........But your POOL, IT'S CLEAN !!!! It's MARVELOUS!!! SOOOO NICE !!! SUCH BEAUTIFUL TILES!!! LOL I did subscribe to your channel and watched some videos. I came to the realization need to go fishing more often..........
😂 lol that’s right, more fishing less cleaning lol
Warning - Vinegar evaporates quickly and will give you a headache in a confined space. I was using it in a corne6 but solved it by using an electric fan when working there. A lid on the bath will save a lot of vinegar. Also you can buy the 30% industrial cheaper and just cut it back to 6% with water. Thanks for the video.
I haven’t experienced this but thanks for sharing!
You must just be a Sandy. People put vinegar on food.
👀👀🤣🤣I rather get a headache than getting cancer from manmade poison 💩
Vinegar is what I use to mop my floors. No chemicals and no sticky tacky stuff to make my flip flops stick and bug me. Love it for cooking and cleaning. I came to watch a video just because I wanted to avoid using some harsh rust removers over something okay for kitchen use
I was surprised at the finished result of my water impregnated tool kit. I soaked everything overnight, not expecting to recover anything! You can see the chemical reaction almost immediately. Vinegar pickles the metal. If used on edged tools, vinegar restores the cutting edge, on rusty files vinegar brought the files back to new status, also cleaned up a 5/8 tap. I washed the solution off and oiled my resurrected tools as soon as I had washed them. CLR works too, just not as good. Of course I could have used liquid drane cleaner, but it requires more care when using caustic solutions.
After you get the files clean. Take a large chalk stick and run over the file. Will keep them from rusting . When you get ready to use. Take a wire brush to the file. Be sure to put the chalk back on the file. Learned this at a Navy training school.
I have a vintage probably WWII era baking pan, about 15" x 24" long, heavy steel that says Lockwood 1944 on it, that is totally rusted. I found it in an Antique store.
I would love to clean it back to metal and polish it just for the history of it.
I have used vinegar and it always worked great for me 😊
I just watched a video on Evapo-rust you might try that again the vinegar, but thank you for your video. I'm going to try the vinegar first ☺️🥇
I’ll be doing a comparison with evapo rust soon.
What will the vinegar do to aluminum? I have an engine with a steel cylinder but the block is aluminum and I want to remove the rust from the cylinder.
Don’t use vinegar on aluminum. It will etch it.
The CLR is thicker. Maybe that's why it penetrates less. Maybe better for plumbing than small tools?
Great video! Definitely helped answer the question between the two cleaners for me. Thanks! :)
Good deal!
They both seem to work good.
Vinegar is good to remove water deposits. You can spray it on your sink let it stand and wash it off with a sponge to get it clean. But I never thought that it would remove rust. This proves you do not always need strong chemicals to get something clean.
White vinegar is definitely the way to go, I clean tools that way too. Why search for a fix to a problem that doesn’t exist...like you say it’s cheap, effective, and available.
Totally agree brother!
Seen another video that said your supposed to go fifty fifty on clr and only a few minutes soaking. I do like the white vinegar though. 🤛🥋
I've got a rusty old drill press (the type you clamp a portable drill in) and if wire brushed it and sprayed it with rust converter. Now it won't slide at all! Any suggestions people?
Not doubting your results how does vinegar do on calcium and lime scale from hard water I know clr descales my shower head and makes it work properly after a short few hour soaking then filter through fine mesh strainer back to bottle for next time
I will use the vinegar; unequivocal from your demonstration that the vinegar outperforms the CLR. You should have used the same type pliers for both & the snips already had some movement though as this gives a fairer experimental setup.
I allow my tools to soak no less than 24 hours for stuck tools. Sometimes for 2-3 days. I rinse them off and they are a greasy like black. Then I use dawn dish soap and hot water and give them a good wash to get them good as new! More soaking less elbow grease.
There are lots of rust remover that could beat the vinegar BUT it would not be cheap and have harmful chemicals in compare to Vinegar which is food grade and cheap and can do the work fine.
Exactly!
Citric acid works well too. I did a whole car frame in it and did a video on it. I knew the vinegar would outshine that clr.
After I clean my old gas tank with vinegar and baking soda what should I apply in the tank after to prevent future rusting that is fuel safe?
@@soopacenter your not going to be able to prevent future rusting without some type of plating or paint. I would put some type of oil on the inside and paint the outside.
Vinegar and blue Dawn is great for your shower 🚿.
I am for sure going to use the white vinegar 👍🏼thanks!
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I think CLR is good for water calcium, but rust I don't think so...But the vinegar won and It's hard to believe..Great demonstration...
I love the comments here but another thing I was wondering is if you mix them is it safe would it work better what would be a good ratio
Vinegar is very effective but I bought some clr on the clearance isle and tried it out and it did work very good for me too
Oh CLR definitely still works and if you got it by all means use it. For this experiment I just found that vinegar may be a better option
I want to see a test with vinegar used to clean up brass. Will it work?
Excellent. Thanks for a nicely made and informative video!
Thank you!
I'd like to see how the vinegar performs against the CLR using a ultrasonic cleaner.
Great video. Actually if you add a little salt to the vinegar it works even better.
10-4 thanks!
And goes rustier even quicker!!
I think the CLR it works to remove the color of rust that means it’s working specially for removing the color from washing machine, so it’s work to save the color for your clothes 👍🏻.
Try removing rust from the tools in two stages, vinegar first then CLR second.
I’ve found that white vinegar is a great way to clean the glass on a wood stove…much better than expensive glass cleaners. It goes without saying DON’T clean the glass when it is hot.
Electrolysis works great on bigger things. One table spoon of Arm & Hammer washing soda/water and 12volt power supply; battery charger.
I remember buying some CLR and using it and being underwhelmed by the results, looks like your experiment proves it wasn't a one off.
When CLR first came on the market years ago it had a much stronger reaction and worked likely 50% better than the CLR today.
The CLR will have lasting properties the vinegar won't. However, the cost, the chemicals, and the hassle gives Vinegar the edge by quite a bit.
Two very different types of pliers. Box end lineman pliers versus sidecutter. Both worked about the same.
CLR is primarily effective against calcium and lime.
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Thank you , I was thinking the same .
Was not an apples to apples test .
If you mix the Vinegar 50% with water and 50% Vinegar It does the same thing and goes farther for bigger jobs, I use it all the time.
May l know, this white vinegar is the same as edible white vinegar that we consume or it's industrial use. Thank you for sharing.
Food grade
I am trying desperately to remove stains from a white fiberglass jacuzzi tub. ANY ADVICE TO get it clean is soooo very appreciated. I’ve used the “new version of CLR “ , bar keepers friend, comet, all types of cleaning products, scrubbing bubbles Lysol nothing will get it off I’m desperate I don’t wanna have to put in a $1500 new tub only to have it staying again. Any advice is so very appreciative. Thank you.
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