I got a trd off-road that was fully loaded, double cab long bed. Would’ve got the pro but they don’t make them with a long bed. Put the trd pro grill, skid plate, fog lights, wheels and a carven exhaust on it. Got it OTT tuned. Honestly the perfect truck, put in a little more money but I also got it brand new for $40,000, not $50,000 and it can actually hold things in the bed and sounds good lol. I call it my trd pro long bed edition 😂
This is honestly the best way to do it. Buy a pro if you don’t plan on modifying it and want the best resale. Buy an off-road if you want the best bang for buck and then make it your own and even better than a pro.
You bet! As soon as the reviews of the new Tacoma came out I was like wow! They addressed everything I complain about lol. I still love the truck and for most people a Tacoma is the best option imo. Thanks for watching!
What I love about my 2023 Tacoma TRD PRO, Off-Road, etc., in 2043: My truck is still running, off-roading and overlanding like new while all other non Toyotas from it's time are probably the can you're drinking soda from.
@@fsufootball6984 as a GM/Ford ex master tech that still wrenches on the side on old loyal customers and family members cars, as well as my toys, I'm OK with my buy. Idk what point you were trying to make. 🤷🏾♂️
Same as things on my 21 trd pro. I love the truck. I do run mine with the Ect power button on all the time. Seems to help a lot with the shifting issues and keeps it from falling on its face in 6th. Overall I’m with you I love the thing.
@@FRS2K no I haven’t noticed. Best I can get so far is 17.9mpg my 97 3.4L 4Runner got 19.5 consistently. I’ve noticed that the mpg isn’t really consistent. But it is a different truck for sure running the Ect power button on all the time. Some say it’s just for tow but I always have it on. Its funny when I forget to turn it on I notice right away. Softer shifts and shorter duration. With it on it holds the shifts longer and gives a little firmer shifting pattern. Try it you will notice a difference. Hope this helps.
Def have to test it out. Highway driving we have seen over 20mpg but that’s without the button on. Might have to test it out tonight. We have a 4 hour drive here shortly.
@djr01974 yeah we had an 03 Runner with the same 4.0 as our 2010 Tacoma and it got around 20mpg. Our 2010 is a hog and gets maybe 15 lol. I’ll definitely try it out keeping the ect pwr on and see if I notice a difference on a tank of gas. Have a good one ✌🏼
Appreciate the review. Remote start shuts off just the same on the highlander and other models. Also, wireless charger on 22 highlander is also finike. So, Toyota issues and not TRD specific for those two
Yeah the things that make the pro what they are is all great! It’s the typical Toyota “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” mentality. Excited for the new one because almost everything I nitpick is addressed.
What I dislike about my TRD Pro: - The front locker won’t engage. - The rear locker won’t engage in 2HI or 4HI like an off road truck should. - The 4 wheel disc brakes don’t have enough bite. - The 1200+ lb payload makes for a rough ride. - The fully boxed frame is too rigid.
What I love about my 2023 Tacoma TRD PRO, Off-Road, etc., in 2043: My truck is still running, off-roading and overlanding like new while all other non Toyotas from it's time are probably the can you're drinking soda from.
To me that would be a deal-breaker but I know a way to get around it where I am when you buy the truck you get remote start you have to pay $10 a month absolutely ridiculous of Toyota to do that Honda doesn't do that. What I was told to do was go to a different place were they install car starters and get one put on from them then it will stay running until you push the button and you don't have to pay a 10-dollar month fee to use it absolutely ridiculous😅
Excellent review, these are the same problems I have experienced with the TACO and these are what keep me from getting one. The seating position, getting in and out are another problem I have. I hate the sitting position. It is like Toyota cuts every corner they can. There are just way too many issues/problems with the Tacoma that Toyota could have addressed a long time ago. It's just got too many issues for the kind of money they are asking..
Agreed. After seeing the new 2024 Tacoma I’m sold. We will be trying to trade ours in for a new Trd pro when it becomes available probably next year. They addressed every issue I have with the current Tacoma and then some.
Just to be honest with you here go try a 2024 model you'll be running to your truck being thankful you have that one the new one is absolutely horrible the build quality is cheap
You know how to drive a manual? Please explain why you find it disruptive or annoying for the engine to maintain a RPM of 4500 when going downhill? Do you know about engine braking? Do we really need a heating steering wheel? Why not mention how there's no lipstick holder. Conan is 6'4" and last I checked one of his vehicles is a Tacoma. But then again he's all legs. The charging pad is nonsense not to mention its not a quick charger. Having to be plugged in to operate Apple Play or Android Auto is complete bullshit. Have you considered a Nissan Frontier? I'm a coin toss between the two.
Everything I agree with, but spaces if you need more space get a bigger truck. Small people get the small truck, and bigger people get the bigger truck, that is the reason why they have multiple sizes of trucks, cars, and SUVs.
Thanks for the review, I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I am considering a 2023 manual transmission version, even though I am a fan of Nissan Frontiers. I understand there's less room for occupants in the Taco.
I am a Toyota fan through and through but pretty much every other option is going to have way more luxury’s and features. I love the Tacoma for the reliability, resale, and aftermarket support.
@@FRS2K Yes both the Nissan and Toyos are reliable with good resale; but the Toyos a little better in resale I believe. Shame Nissan dropped the 6 speed MT. A local dealer has a new Taco 6 speed MT and the one thing holding me back is the lack of occupant roominess.
@@FRS2K It's pretty significant at the pedal. I'm still getting used to it, I got the mild/med tune. Tranny definitely smoother shifts and not as high rpm on highway shifts. Dont know about MPG havent driven it very far. My commute to work is one mile!
Yeah man I have the same truck and color but it’s a manual and I complain about the same things although you can’t fault it being dirty because you picked black lol. I don’t understand how the cameras are so bad but I do love that there is a 360 cam on the roof. I would add that when you have the 360 view, it darkens part of the camera view which is annoying. Another thing that is annoying is that it doesn’t come with the TRD cold air intake!!! That should be standard in the PRO!! Lol like you said at the end though, I love it and won’t trade it!
@@FRS2K lol no I still love my truck! It doesn’t come with remote start from factory since it’s manual so I installed an aftermarket one and it doesn’t shut off like the automatic when the doors open which is clutch…. Lol
ok, you might be a slow adult. You complain that you are too tall for the vehicle you bought. Don't buy that vehicle. You complain about the color... don't buy that vehicle. The tranny complaints are valid. Mine gets lost between shifts as well. But to complain about the super computer in your whip or the fit issues or the aesthetic issues or the fact that your steering wheel is not warm...... yup. You're a slow adult. Real complaints about this vehicle. Rear drums. Skid plate over the oil filter.
😅 I’d love a new Sierra Denali but 80k plus for one I’d want is a little steep right now. I’ll probably just buy another Tacoma next year when the new Trd pro comes out. Lesson not learned lol.
It’s a security feature so that someone walking by isn’t able to hop in your running truck and drive away. They could have at least programmed it to recognize the key fob in proximity.
That’s why I have not and will not budge for a 3rd gen, I’m waiting for the 4th gen to hopefully see some of those improvements you pointed out. Don’t get me wrong I love Tacomas, and I know a lot of people say the reliability and resell value makes up for it outdated tech and other mechanical issues, but when you’re dropping 50k on a brand new mid size truck(which in itself is a ridiculous price) in 2023 you should expect a whole lot of better equipped standard features.
Completely agree. The 3rd gen was a big step up from our 2nd gen but it was more so in styling than features. I’m excited to see what they do with the interior, powertrain, and tech in the 4th gen. If the hybrid turbo 4 and 10 spd or 6 spd manual are actually offered we will probably trade up to it.
Ummm....did you not sit in the truck before you bought it??? I mean your really going to complain about head room after the purchase? Oh and then complain about the color? No one forced you to buy a black truck. Sounds like you should have looked at another vehicle. On a positive note, I do agree with you one the 1990 camera resolutions and key fob. Pretty sad Toyota cant do better than in 2023!!!
I daily drive an S2000 in the summer. I’m ok with making sacrifices. You get married or start dating someone and they’re not perfect but you still love them right? At least hopefully lol
I love my 2022 Taco 🌮 TRD off road stock. I can outrun other Tacos with lifted suspension and tires 😂. My neighbor couple blocks down street has 2 3rd generation Tacos one lifted it’s his weekend warrior truck and the other Taco commuter work truck
Bigger wheels and tires make a huge difference with acceleration. Our 2010 Trd sport has some pavement princess 20x12’s and 33” tires and god is it slow but I love it lol.
Spot on!! I have a 22 off road in lunar rock and I hope you sprayed your trucks bottom with surface shield or Fluid film! I'm from MN also. With the off road I tried to change the color of my truck in the dash at start up but I don't have that option you should have it with the PRO.
@cbayless4294 I didn’t know you could change the color of the truck in the startup. I’m gunna have to look into that! Not a whole lot of customizable options so if there is one I’m stoked lol. Unless the next gen Tacoma blows my mind, we will be holding on to it. I am excited to see the upcoming changes.
@@FRS2K I found that out on RobMotive one of his subs told him how to do it I'll see if I can find it. It had something to do with the headlight switch and radio.
@@FRS2K Found it RobMotive from 2 yrs ago " Toyota Tacoma secret screen to change truck image" be careful when you're in there I think you can change other stuff also that might screw with warranty.
Lol I could have swore a woman would review a Tacoma and complain about the things your complaining about… but thanks you just sold me, I don’t care about all that junk tech blah blah.. I just ordered a manual Trd pro and coming in on the 23rd trading in my 19 Trd off road Heated steering wheel??? Are you serious????? You have an S2000 that explains a little more
For the same amount of money, not a chance. I love the truck. I’ve had a 03 4Runner, 03 IS300, 2010 Tacoma, 13 frs and 22 GR86. Other than Honda, there is a reason why I keep buying Toyota. If a brand new sierra Denali was the same price, I would go that route since it would suit my needs better overall but I have zero buyers remorse.
I agree with everything you stated except for the transmission. Just moved up from a 2017 TRD Sport to a 2023 TRD Pro and will say the transmission doesn’t hunt nearly as much and the Pro suspension is worlds better. I will say the camera on the 17 was also better and that even sucked. One last thing you forgot is why the hell couldn’t they include an adjustable front seat for the passenger as well? Even with all these minor complaints I still love my new truck as well as the 17 Sport. I wanted to upgrade to the 23 so I could carry all my aftermarket parts over to the new truck just in case they don’t fit the new body style next year.
Glad I don’t have a 2017 then lol. I would really like to get it tuned. Eventually supercharge it even though the dollar to hp ratio isn’t that great. Just want to enjoy the truck that much more. Thanks for the comment!
@@FRS2K I will say one thing I just found out this morning. My 17 had the Falken Wildpeak AT3 Tires with the 4 Runner 17 inch wheels and that set up blows away the stock set up on the 2023 Pro wheels/Tires in the wet slushy snow. Thinking about putting them back on next winter. Glad I kept them. I just have to put new TPMS in them and they will be good to go.
This is for 2020 but the differences are about the same now www.toyotaarlington.com/clp-2020-toyota-tacoma-trd-pro-vs-trd-off-road-vs-trd-sport-palatine-il
Over the years, that stop and have to engage the ignition again causes undue wear and tear…but not as bad as auto start/stop. Wow what a load of garbage infotainment system. All the issues you described are honestly unacceptable for a $60k vehicle.
bitching about the key fob, should have gotten the manual then you just don't even get remote start or push button have to use an actual key. Problem solved. Old school garmen from 15 years ago. . . where you even driving 15 years ago? wouldn't that put you at like 12? your rpm issue, again get the standard transmission like a respectable human.
@@FRS2K 2014 Raptor is an electrical fking nightmare. Goes down the road like a trophy truck (I live in Baja) but unreliable AF. 10 miles of offroad to get to town. My 06 Taco was a better more reliable ride...and saved my life. I beams held with 8 rollovers-
You're the first person I've seen do an honest review of the Tacoma. It's the worst truck I've ever owned. My 2017 Nissan Frontier is an overall better truck. I spent $43 000 buying the Tacoma and another $20,000 replacing the factory stereo, security systems, remote starters , wheels tires and suspension and it's honestly still not as good of a truck as the Frontier. 100% that's my honest opinion.
20k miles in 5 months? Are you living in your Tacoma 😂? My 2006 Sequoia only has 88k miles on it. I sold my 2008 Tundra not too long ago with 68k miles on it.
Sometimes it feels like it 😂. We have a s2000 with 140k miles. FRS with over 200k. 2nd gen Tacoma with 250k miles. This Tacoma with 20k. And our 2022 GR86 has 6k on it. 🤷♀️ #sorrynotsorry
I have 3 vehicles. A car for commuting to work, the Tundra for Home Depot or when it rains hard outside, and the Sequoia is for long trips in the summer when kids are out of school. That's why the Sequoia and the Tundra have low miles on them. Can't drive them every day, they only get 10-11 mpg, LOL.
i HATED the engine start up from the key and the app, because as soon as i opened the door, it would shut off , which is a theft prevention function, but i agree the key upgrade would have been niiice , prolly would have cost us (the customer) 1k more lol im debating getting the nissan frontier, its only an inch difference in cabin space and it has wiresless apple CarPlay and a strong wireless charging pad that works with cases on it.
Yeah the pro4x is a nice truck. The new Canyon AT4 looks super nice too. Still hoping the new Tacoma will be a game changer but that’s not Toyotas strong suit so we will see.
@@FRS2K honestly I’m curious as well but I don’t plan on buying the new iteration , the new remodels usually have issues so maybe 2026 I’ll wait and see if they got the kinks worked out. I wish they’d bring back the quick sand Tan Exterior I really love that color, makes my current Tacoma look clean since the SW is mostly dirt and mountains, lots of dust. I don’t have to clean it as often lol. Blends in
I don’t buy the “theft prevention” excuse with proximity key fobs in 2023. A potential thief isn’t going to have the key fob so then and only then should the ignition kill.
I don't know of another brand 💥 that fans make as many excuses for incredibly outdated tech and cheap plastic at Toyota fan boys 🤣 Like, if there was a little better key fob, somehow it wouldn't be as reliable. All for more for 50k, boys.
Yess that’s what I’m saying!! and I’m a Tacoma fanboy myself, but even I can see the huge flaws this 50k midsize truck has and all the standard features it lacks compared to its competitors, like I’m looking at the new GM twins and saying damn they knocked it out of the park with those midsize trucks except the pricing. You can get more from a 50k GM colorado or canyon than in the Tacoma TRD Pro
Truth lol we have 2 Tacomas a GR86 and a Scion FRS. I’ll defend and make excuses till I die but I’ll also be the first one to complain about them too 🤷🏻♂️
@@EpticityOG as a GM/ASE Master mechanic/tech, no. I own a 23 TRD off road 4x4 and I bought it and am currently modding it to my liking it instead of anything GM, Ford or Chrysler makes. GM's are money makers for us mechanics since they have such crappy reliability and drivetrains. Don't even get me started on all the electrical issues. I hope you never have any issues once your warranty expires, because honestly, you will and it will cost you an arm and a leg. Better just trade that truck in and get something new again. There is a reason why I'm a GM tech but own Toyota(s), oh, and a Honda. Lmao!
I have a 2023 TRD pro i have a list but one thing I hope toyota changes for 2024 is that the tailgate should lock and unlock with fob and dock lock button ..are they really that stupid dah people steal tailgates duh
Yeah it takes someone 30 seconds to take it. I’m glad not more people think of stealing them but a locking tailgate from the factory would be super convenient.
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I got a trd off-road that was fully loaded, double cab long bed. Would’ve got the pro but they don’t make them with a long bed. Put the trd pro grill, skid plate, fog lights, wheels and a carven exhaust on it. Got it OTT tuned. Honestly the perfect truck, put in a little more money but I also got it brand new for $40,000, not $50,000 and it can actually hold things in the bed and sounds good lol. I call it my trd pro long bed edition 😂
This is honestly the best way to do it. Buy a pro if you don’t plan on modifying it and want the best resale. Buy an off-road if you want the best bang for buck and then make it your own and even better than a pro.
Thanks, dude, for sharing all these things. How I wish that toyota fix all that issues! I love this video content.
You bet! As soon as the reviews of the new Tacoma came out I was like wow! They addressed everything I complain about lol. I still love the truck and for most people a Tacoma is the best option imo. Thanks for watching!
I have a 2023 Trd pro and I agree with everything you said. I love my truck, but it does have its draw backs
Yeah it’s all nit picky stuff. Nothing that is a major issue. Have 43k on the truck now and it has been great.
So many issues but still a good truck and I would still buy it. I definitely wouldn't get the 2024 and above with that 4 cyl turbo.
What I love about my 2023 Tacoma TRD PRO, Off-Road, etc., in 2043: My truck is still running, off-roading and overlanding like new while all other non Toyotas from it's time are probably the can you're drinking soda from.
Preach 🙌
That's what you have to tell yourself after you buy a Japanese truck
@@fsufootball6984 as a GM/Ford ex master tech that still wrenches on the side on old loyal customers and family members cars, as well as my toys, I'm OK with my buy. Idk what point you were trying to make. 🤷🏾♂️
@@erod6468 yes you do
@@fsufootball6984 I really don't. 🤷🏾♂️
You gotta install the OTT tune it’s a night and day difference 👍🏼
Good review. I'm picking mine up in a few weeks. Same color, but in manual transmission.
Congrats! Wish ours had the manual but it has been great. 27,000 miles and climbing with no issues.
Same as things on my 21 trd pro. I love the truck. I do run mine with the Ect power button on all the time. Seems to help a lot with the shifting issues and keeps it from falling on its face in 6th. Overall I’m with you I love the thing.
I don’t think they changed anything for the 23 model year either lol. Do you notice a change in fuel economy running with ect power on all the time?
@@FRS2K no I haven’t noticed. Best I can get so far is 17.9mpg my 97 3.4L 4Runner got 19.5 consistently. I’ve noticed that the mpg isn’t really consistent. But it is a different truck for sure running the Ect power button on all the time. Some say it’s just for tow but I always have it on. Its funny when I forget to turn it on I notice right away. Softer shifts and shorter duration. With it on it holds the shifts longer and gives a little firmer shifting pattern. Try it you will notice a difference. Hope this helps.
Def have to test it out. Highway driving we have seen over 20mpg but that’s without the button on. Might have to test it out tonight. We have a 4 hour drive here shortly.
@djr01974 yeah we had an 03 Runner with the same 4.0 as our 2010 Tacoma and it got around 20mpg. Our 2010 is a hog and gets maybe 15 lol. I’ll definitely try it out keeping the ect pwr on and see if I notice a difference on a tank of gas. Have a good one ✌🏼
Same
Appreciate the review.
Remote start shuts off just the same on the highlander and other models. Also, wireless charger on 22 highlander is also finike. So, Toyota issues and not TRD specific for those two
Yeah the things that make the pro what they are is all great! It’s the typical Toyota “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” mentality. Excited for the new one because almost everything I nitpick is addressed.
Buddy stop with your negative comments about the tacoma
Lol butthurt?
He isn't wrong. Very similar issues with Camry but it doesn't bother and I enjoy my car and the way it looks. 2020 XSE fully loaded.
What I dislike about my TRD Pro:
- The front locker won’t engage.
- The rear locker won’t engage in 2HI or 4HI like an off road truck should.
- The 4 wheel disc brakes don’t have enough bite.
- The 1200+ lb payload makes for a rough ride.
- The fully boxed frame is too rigid.
Full disc brake conversion or? Most come with drum rear
I see what you’re doing here!
What I love about my 2023 Tacoma TRD PRO, Off-Road, etc., in 2043: My truck is still running, off-roading and overlanding like new while all other non Toyotas from it's time are probably the can you're drinking soda from.
To me that would be a deal-breaker but I know a way to get around it where I am when you buy the truck you get remote start you have to pay $10 a month absolutely ridiculous of Toyota to do that Honda doesn't do that. What I was told to do was go to a different place were they install car starters and get one put on from them then it will stay running until you push the button and you don't have to pay a 10-dollar month fee to use it absolutely ridiculous😅
Excellent review, these are the same problems I have experienced with the TACO and these are what keep me from getting one. The seating position, getting in and out are another problem I have. I hate the sitting position. It is like Toyota cuts every corner they can. There are just way too many issues/problems with the Tacoma that Toyota could have addressed a long time ago. It's just got too many issues for the kind of money they are asking..
Agreed. After seeing the new 2024 Tacoma I’m sold. We will be trying to trade ours in for a new Trd pro when it becomes available probably next year. They addressed every issue I have with the current Tacoma and then some.
notice same finicky charging. By pulling it as close to the shifter as possible, flush against that front lip, it works the best, even in a case.
Im just going to tell passengers to use it and watch them struggle lol
Just to be honest with you here go try a 2024 model you'll be running to your truck being thankful you have that one the new one is absolutely horrible the build quality is cheap
Remove the predator Bars jus sayin'!
Agreed, the transmission is absolute garbage. Another thing I would add is the acceleration, it is also garbage. My four-cylinder CX-5 smokes this V6
You know how to drive a manual?
Please explain why you find it disruptive or annoying for the engine to maintain a RPM of 4500 when going downhill?
Do you know about engine braking?
Do we really need a heating steering wheel? Why not mention how there's no lipstick holder.
Conan is 6'4" and last I checked one of his vehicles is a Tacoma. But then again he's all legs.
The charging pad is nonsense not to mention its not a quick charger. Having to be plugged in to operate Apple Play or Android Auto is complete bullshit.
Have you considered a Nissan Frontier? I'm a coin toss between the two.
Everything I agree with, but spaces if you need more space get a bigger truck. Small people get the small truck, and bigger people get the bigger truck, that is the reason why they have multiple sizes of trucks, cars, and SUVs.
Thanks for the review, I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I am considering a 2023 manual transmission version, even though I am a fan of Nissan Frontiers. I understand there's less room for occupants in the Taco.
I am a Toyota fan through and through but pretty much every other option is going to have way more luxury’s and features. I love the Tacoma for the reliability, resale, and aftermarket support.
@@FRS2K Yes both the Nissan and Toyos are reliable with good resale; but the Toyos a little better in resale I believe. Shame Nissan dropped the 6 speed MT. A local dealer has a new Taco 6 speed MT and the one thing holding me back is the lack of occupant roominess.
I got a 23 Pro and got the overland tailor torque tune and completely fixed the transmission problem but cost $500 to do
We have someone in Minnesota now that can do them. Do you notice benefits anywhere else besides transmission tuning?
@@FRS2K It's pretty significant at the pedal. I'm still getting used to it, I got the mild/med tune. Tranny definitely smoother shifts and not as high rpm on highway shifts. Dont know about MPG havent driven it very far. My commute to work is one mile!
Doesn't that tuneup void the Toyota warranty?
Yeah man I have the same truck and color but it’s a manual and I complain about the same things although you can’t fault it being dirty because you picked black lol. I don’t understand how the cameras are so bad but I do love that there is a 360 cam on the roof. I would add that when you have the 360 view, it darkens part of the camera view which is annoying. Another thing that is annoying is that it doesn’t come with the TRD cold air intake!!! That should be standard in the PRO!! Lol like you said at the end though, I love it and won’t trade it!
Wanna trade for the automatic? Lol
@@FRS2K lol no I still love my truck! It doesn’t come with remote start from factory since it’s manual so I installed an aftermarket one and it doesn’t shut off like the automatic when the doors open which is clutch…. Lol
5 months , 20,000 miles. Now thats a lot of driving. It's still worth $40,000 now a day's . lol
ok, you might be a slow adult. You complain that you are too tall for the vehicle you bought. Don't buy that vehicle. You complain about the color... don't buy that vehicle. The tranny complaints are valid. Mine gets lost between shifts as well. But to complain about the super computer in your whip or the fit issues or the aesthetic issues or the fact that your steering wheel is not warm...... yup. You're a slow adult. Real complaints about this vehicle. Rear drums. Skid plate over the oil filter.
Respectfully you need a full size truck. The Tacoma is designed for dwarfs like myself.
😅 I’d love a new Sierra Denali but 80k plus for one I’d want is a little steep right now. I’ll probably just buy another Tacoma next year when the new Trd pro comes out. Lesson not learned lol.
@@FRS2K lol I get you, I got the 23 Taco TRD Sport for 42k out the door. Decent relative to the competition
Why does it shut off like that
All of them do that. No idea why Toyota decided that was a good feature lol.
It’s a security feature so that someone walking by isn’t able to hop in your running truck and drive away. They could have at least programmed it to recognize the key fob in proximity.
That’s why I have not and will not budge for a 3rd gen, I’m waiting for the 4th gen to hopefully see some of those improvements you pointed out. Don’t get me wrong I love Tacomas, and I know a lot of people say the reliability and resell value makes up for it outdated tech and other mechanical issues, but when you’re dropping 50k on a brand new mid size truck(which in itself is a ridiculous price) in 2023 you should expect a whole lot of better equipped standard features.
Completely agree. The 3rd gen was a big step up from our 2nd gen but it was more so in styling than features. I’m excited to see what they do with the interior, powertrain, and tech in the 4th gen. If the hybrid turbo 4 and 10 spd or 6 spd manual are actually offered we will probably trade up to it.
enjoy that turbod 4 banger that goes to shit at 100k miles. I'll pass on the 4th gen.
@@sudonix5923 Then you´ll pass forever on everything. Big naturally aspirated engines are mostly dead
@@SDMTB14 we'll see.
I have an Off road that remote start and shutting off when you're trying to leave for work sucks man I feel you
Nice truck thanks for the video
Appreciate it!
You are right, you are 100% Right!
Ummm....did you not sit in the truck before you bought it??? I mean your really going to complain about head room after the purchase? Oh and then complain about the color? No one forced you to buy a black truck. Sounds like you should have looked at another vehicle. On a positive note, I do agree with you one the 1990 camera resolutions and key fob. Pretty sad Toyota cant do better than in 2023!!!
I daily drive an S2000 in the summer. I’m ok with making sacrifices. You get married or start dating someone and they’re not perfect but you still love them right? At least hopefully lol
Go get a gmc bubba I dare you.
You double dog dare me? We have a sierra Denali ultimate now. Miss the Tacoma but the sierra is much more suited for our needs.
I love my 2022 Taco 🌮 TRD off road stock. I can outrun other Tacos with lifted suspension and tires 😂. My neighbor couple blocks down street has 2 3rd generation Tacos one lifted it’s his weekend warrior truck and the other Taco commuter work truck
Bigger wheels and tires make a huge difference with acceleration. Our 2010 Trd sport has some pavement princess 20x12’s and 33” tires and god is it slow but I love it lol.
Get an OTT tune. You'll love it more. 😀
Definitely want to. I think there is someone in MN now that can tune them.
@@FRS2K yep. Down in Lakeville. That's where I'm going to get my tune.
Do I want a truck or a sports car?
Both! Lol do you live in an area that you can drive a sportier car year round?
Why did you buy the truck? Almost all you complaints you can see before you even start the engine and drive it. 😮
Right?
Spot on!! I have a 22 off road in lunar rock and I hope you sprayed your trucks bottom with surface shield or Fluid film! I'm from MN also. With the off road I tried to change the color of my truck in the dash at start up but I don't have that option you should have it with the PRO.
@cbayless4294 I didn’t know you could change the color of the truck in the startup. I’m gunna have to look into that! Not a whole lot of customizable options so if there is one I’m stoked lol. Unless the next gen Tacoma blows my mind, we will be holding on to it. I am excited to see the upcoming changes.
@@FRS2K I found that out on RobMotive one of his subs told him how to do it I'll see if I can find it. It had something to do with the headlight switch and radio.
@@FRS2K Found it RobMotive from 2 yrs ago " Toyota Tacoma secret screen to change truck image" be careful when you're in there I think you can change other stuff also that might screw with warranty.
Sounds good 👍 I’ll definitely check it out. Appreciate it!
My sr5 does
You 6”4 that’s over average human being lol.
I hope Toyota will keep these low comfort tech as long as possible
Lol I could have swore a woman would review a Tacoma and complain about the things your complaining about… but thanks you just sold me, I don’t care about all that junk tech blah blah.. I just ordered a manual Trd pro and coming in on the 23rd trading in my 19 Trd off road
Heated steering wheel??? Are you serious????? You have an S2000 that explains a little more
Would you take all of this dislikes and trade them for a truck that’s not reliable?
For the same amount of money, not a chance. I love the truck. I’ve had a 03 4Runner, 03 IS300, 2010 Tacoma, 13 frs and 22 GR86. Other than Honda, there is a reason why I keep buying Toyota. If a brand new sierra Denali was the same price, I would go that route since it would suit my needs better overall but I have zero buyers remorse.
@@FRS2K my point exactly man. I got a Toyota pickup 88 with 22re. Bullet proof, I also just bought a 21 Tacoma. Loving it
I agree with everything you stated except for the transmission. Just moved up from a 2017 TRD Sport to a 2023 TRD Pro and will say the transmission doesn’t hunt nearly as much and the Pro suspension is worlds better. I will say the camera on the 17 was also better and that even sucked. One last thing you forgot is why the hell couldn’t they include an adjustable front seat for the passenger as well? Even with all these minor complaints I still love my new truck as well as the 17 Sport. I wanted to upgrade to the 23 so I could carry all my aftermarket parts over to the new truck just in case they don’t fit the new body style next year.
Glad I don’t have a 2017 then lol. I would really like to get it tuned. Eventually supercharge it even though the dollar to hp ratio isn’t that great. Just want to enjoy the truck that much more. Thanks for the comment!
@@FRS2K I will say one thing I just found out this morning. My 17 had the Falken Wildpeak AT3 Tires with the 4 Runner 17 inch wheels and that set up blows away the stock set up on the 2023 Pro wheels/Tires in the wet slushy snow. Thinking about putting them back on next winter. Glad I kept them. I just have to put new TPMS in them and they will be good to go.
What is the difference between this and the sport
This is for 2020 but the differences are about the same now www.toyotaarlington.com/clp-2020-toyota-tacoma-trd-pro-vs-trd-off-road-vs-trd-sport-palatine-il
Over the years, that stop and have to engage the ignition again causes undue wear and tear…but not as bad as auto start/stop. Wow what a load of garbage infotainment system. All the issues you described are honestly unacceptable for a $60k vehicle.
What a cute little screen!!
It’s Asian…That’s a sensitive subject.
What do you love about the truck?
bitching about the key fob, should have gotten the manual then you just don't even get remote start or push button have to use an actual key. Problem solved. Old school garmen from 15 years ago. . . where you even driving 15 years ago? wouldn't that put you at like 12? your rpm issue, again get the standard transmission like a respectable human.
I think you need the 450 ford I have one 😉 I m 6.3
If it’s a 450 megaraptor than absolutely!
@@FRS2K stop being a 😺🖕🏻
What mount is on top of your screen for phone, etc.?
Bulletpoint mounting solutions. I’ll be uploading a video on the install soon.
Should have waited for the new tacoma lol 😜
What 7.0 liter V8 gets 20 mpg?
Should’ve bought a Jeep rubicon then you wouldn’t have to complain 😅
I do love me a Wrangler Rubicon. Top down doors off and heated steering wheel lol.
Only when it’s in the shop on a regular basis
It’s time to leave toyota and go raptor
I’d love a raptor. It’s convincing the wife to want one too lol
@@FRS2K 2014 Raptor is an electrical fking nightmare. Goes down the road like a trophy truck (I live in Baja) but unreliable AF. 10 miles of offroad to get to town. My 06 Taco was a better more reliable ride...and saved my life. I beams held with 8 rollovers-
good to know
20k miles 5 months ?? damn lmaoo i had my 21 2 years only have 22k miles lmaoo
Yeah lol we rack up the miles pretty quick on all our vehicles.
Dam just bought my 2020 at 17,000 miles. With all the upgrades
Congrats on the 🌮! I want to start upgrading ours but might hold out to see if the next gen will be worth trading up.
Damn, I’ve had mine for 18 months and only have 13k miles on it!
Your truck is gonna rust out
You're the first person I've seen do an honest review of the Tacoma. It's the worst truck I've ever owned.
My 2017 Nissan Frontier is an overall better truck.
I spent $43 000 buying the Tacoma and another $20,000 replacing the factory stereo, security systems, remote starters , wheels tires and suspension and it's honestly still not as good of a truck as the Frontier. 100% that's my honest opinion.
Good thing it's just your opinion and not facts. ;)
You spent $20,000 replacing stuff on a truck you hate? Genius.
20k miles in 5 months? Are you living in your Tacoma 😂? My 2006 Sequoia only has 88k miles on it. I sold my 2008 Tundra not too long ago with 68k miles on it.
Sometimes it feels like it 😂. We have a s2000 with 140k miles. FRS with over 200k. 2nd gen Tacoma with 250k miles. This Tacoma with 20k. And our 2022 GR86 has 6k on it. 🤷♀️ #sorrynotsorry
Damn wtf better said what are you not doing lol, do you not go out as much? My 2015 Tacoma has 75k miles on it
I have 3 vehicles. A car for commuting to work, the Tundra for Home Depot or when it rains hard outside, and the Sequoia is for long trips in the summer when kids are out of school. That's why the Sequoia and the Tundra have low miles on them. Can't drive them every day, they only get 10-11 mpg, LOL.
"Its thinking about it" 😆 🤣
i HATED the engine start up from the key and the app, because as soon as i opened the door, it would shut off , which is a theft prevention function, but i agree the key upgrade would have been niiice , prolly would have cost us (the customer) 1k more lol im debating getting the nissan frontier, its only an inch difference in cabin space and it has wiresless apple CarPlay and a strong wireless charging pad that works with cases on it.
Yeah the pro4x is a nice truck. The new Canyon AT4 looks super nice too. Still hoping the new Tacoma will be a game changer but that’s not Toyotas strong suit so we will see.
@@FRS2K honestly I’m curious as well but I don’t plan on buying the new iteration , the new remodels usually have issues so maybe 2026 I’ll wait and see if they got the kinks worked out. I wish they’d bring back the quick sand Tan Exterior I really love that color, makes my current Tacoma look clean since the SW is mostly dirt and mountains, lots of dust. I don’t have to clean it as often lol. Blends in
I don’t buy the “theft prevention” excuse with proximity key fobs in 2023. A potential thief isn’t going to have the key fob so then and only then should the ignition kill.
I don't know of another brand 💥 that fans make as many excuses for incredibly outdated tech and cheap plastic at Toyota fan boys 🤣 Like, if there was a little better key fob, somehow it wouldn't be as reliable.
All for more for 50k, boys.
Yess that’s what I’m saying!! and I’m a Tacoma fanboy myself, but even I can see the huge flaws this 50k midsize truck has and all the standard features it lacks compared to its competitors, like I’m looking at the new GM twins and saying damn they knocked it out of the park with those midsize trucks except the pricing. You can get more from a 50k GM colorado or canyon than in the Tacoma TRD Pro
Truth lol we have 2 Tacomas a GR86 and a Scion FRS. I’ll defend and make excuses till I die but I’ll also be the first one to complain about them too 🤷🏻♂️
@@EpticityOG as a GM/ASE Master mechanic/tech, no. I own a 23 TRD off road 4x4 and I bought it and am currently modding it to my liking it instead of anything GM, Ford or Chrysler makes. GM's are money makers for us mechanics since they have such crappy reliability and drivetrains. Don't even get me started on all the electrical issues. I hope you never have any issues once your warranty expires, because honestly, you will and it will cost you an arm and a leg. Better just trade that truck in and get something new again. There is a reason why I'm a GM tech but own Toyota(s), oh, and a Honda. Lmao!
@@erod6468 I drive a 2015 Tacoma lol I don’t drive a GM
@@EpticityOG cool story bro, but the reply I made was in case you do end up going for a GM or other truck. They're just not built to last these days.
Try putting your phone upside down, and probably it will charge
Get rid of it buy a ram and good luck 😅😅😅
I have a 2023 TRD pro i have a list but one thing I hope toyota changes for 2024 is that the tailgate should lock and unlock with fob and dock lock button ..are they really that stupid dah people steal tailgates duh
Yeah it takes someone 30 seconds to take it. I’m glad not more people think of stealing them but a locking tailgate from the factory would be super convenient.
My 2023 Pro has the bed lock linked with the doors so you just use the key fob to lock and unlock the tailgate.
stop crying