At our club matches we use four wind flags. The first is about 8 yards from the benches . The next three are - I'm guessing - approximately 20, 35 & 45 yards from the benches. At times they can all be showing a different wind velocity and direction. Or only one may be moving with any force. The most important one is the closest to the bench as the wind there will have the most effect on the bullet. The second and third flags have less effect and the last flag can pretty much be ignored unless it is going crazy as the bullet is not effected much at that point. If all flags show the wind blowing straight toward the bench, you can aim dead center and that's where the shot will go. We routinely shoot in 5 - 10 mph winds with higher gusts and do pretty well. Shooting the IBS targets, in the past 17 cards totaling 4250 possible points, I've dropped 21 points or .005%. The 17 cards represent 13 matches of which I've won 3 and placed second 3 times. My point is this: a single flag at 8 - 10 yards will not tell you what you need to know about the winds between the one flag and the target. You require more flags to get a more accurate reading.
HSmith good discussion! Thanks for taking the time to post this. I'll bring out my other flags next outing. Probably use the 8, 20 and 35 distances you mention with a 'ribbon' at 45 yards just to monitor for an unanticipated wind gust or pattern. Thanks again!
This is a great idea . Shoot one with POA at bullseye and another with correction . I’m going to do this exercise on windy day . Thank you for the idea for windy day at the range exercise .
It looks like the range you shoot at has the same bipolar wind that is at my local range. I am glad someone else is doing videos shooting the conditions. It adds a lot of truth to shooting rimfire.. Keep up the good work.
I can always count on wind at this particular range. Usually more so than on this video day. It can be very humbling compared to the more wind sedate fields. But, the only way to understand and approach the wind variable is to get in with it and try to learn from each shot. It makes for a never ending moderate learning and steep proficiency curve.
This sure doesn't come easy! I've learned a few more guidance tips since this post. I plan to get my 'indicators' and flags out again for filming before the season ends and try to see if some of these 'tips' are doable and have positive results. I've witnessed a 'champion' shooter during very windy conditions, where the rest of us were in the 180-185/200 range with 3-5X, he was consistent 192-196/200 with 10-15X. I spoke with him at length.
I have the most trouble with 7 to o'clock to 11 o'clock wind. I have conquered 1 o'clock to 5 o'clock, that is if I look at the flags before I shoot and not after,
There are several sites that sell nice bench rest wind flags. These were my sources: 1. Orlando Wind Flags for the direction and velocity indicators. 2. brflags.com for the stand and 'parts pieces'. Also ebay for 'heavy duty' photo lighting stand. 3. Lowes for a 'tote'. Indicators are fragile.
@@22rimfireultra67 Thx for links. Ever since I tried to be more "serious" about rimfire the learning and understanding of wind has become crucial to success.
At our club matches we use four wind flags. The first is about 8 yards from the benches . The next three are - I'm guessing - approximately 20, 35 & 45 yards from the benches. At times they can all be showing a different wind velocity and direction. Or only one may be moving with any force. The most important one is the closest to the bench as the wind there will have the most effect on the bullet. The second and third flags have less effect and the last flag can pretty much be ignored unless it is going crazy as the bullet is not effected much at that point. If all flags show the wind blowing straight toward the bench, you can aim dead center and that's where the shot will go. We routinely shoot in 5 - 10 mph winds with higher gusts and do pretty well. Shooting the IBS targets, in the past 17 cards totaling 4250 possible points, I've dropped 21 points or .005%. The 17 cards represent 13 matches of which I've won 3 and placed second 3 times. My point is this: a single flag at 8 - 10 yards will not tell you what you need to know about the winds between the one flag and the target. You require more flags to get a more accurate reading.
HSmith good discussion! Thanks for taking the time to post this. I'll bring out my other flags next outing. Probably use the 8, 20 and 35 distances you mention with a 'ribbon' at 45 yards just to monitor for an unanticipated wind gust or pattern.
Thanks again!
@@22rimfireultra67 I like your videos and I look forward to seeing the next one. What state are you in? I'm in Georgia.
This is a great idea . Shoot one with POA at bullseye and another with correction .
I’m going to do this exercise on windy day .
Thank you for the idea for windy day at the range exercise .
Good luck with it! I plan to practice more with this in the near future.
It looks like the range you shoot at has the same bipolar wind that is at my local range. I am glad someone else is doing videos shooting the conditions. It adds a lot of truth to shooting rimfire.. Keep up the good work.
I can always count on wind at this particular range. Usually more so than on this video day. It can be very humbling compared to the more wind sedate fields. But, the only way to understand and approach the wind variable is to get in with it and try to learn from each shot. It makes for a never ending moderate learning and steep proficiency curve.
Thank you very much indeed.. Really valuable and helpful info.. I suffer from info overload if I use more than 2 flags 😂😂
This sure doesn't come easy! I've learned a few more guidance tips since this post. I plan to get my 'indicators' and flags out again for filming before the season ends and try to see if some of these 'tips' are doable and have positive results. I've witnessed a 'champion' shooter during very windy conditions, where the rest of us were in the 180-185/200 range with 3-5X, he was consistent 192-196/200 with 10-15X. I spoke with him at length.
great learning routine👍
Trial and error. Wish I could make sense of the results more! we will keep after it 🙂
I have the most trouble with 7 to o'clock to 11 o'clock wind. I have conquered 1 o'clock to 5 o'clock, that is if I look at the flags before I shoot and not after,
I'm still waiting for that 'ah ha!' moment when I realize I have conquered any thing! 🤣
Where did the wind direction/meter come from???
There are several sites that sell nice bench rest wind flags. These were my sources:
1. Orlando Wind Flags for the direction and velocity indicators.
2. brflags.com for the stand and 'parts pieces'. Also ebay for 'heavy duty' photo lighting stand.
3. Lowes for a 'tote'. Indicators are fragile.
@@22rimfireultra67 Thx for links. Ever since I tried to be more "serious" about rimfire the learning and understanding of wind has become crucial to success.
Guns won't group as i would like 🤷♂️
That is what keeps us going back to try again! 🙃