I'm Romani and I'm glad people are starting to educate themselves on these people. A couple of years ago this wasn't talked about at all people didn't have a clue, just the media etc. This video was the best explanation about us. Thank you History it's so good.
Oh wow, what country do you live in? I think the Romani people are so interesting. Thank you for commenting. I am writing a story with some romani characters 1820 France, Do you think a Romani woman would have married a French man?
Hey Sam! So good to hear your voice. And such an awesome subject! One that I have been interested in for a long time. I’m about 24 minutes in, and you are talking about a group called the Zott. Or at least, that’s how the Persians seem to be pronouncing it. I’m almost 100% sure that that is my own ethnic/tribal people group, and we, depending on where in South Asia we are, pronounce it differently. Usually, when it’s spelled in English, it’s spelled either Jat or Jatt. Actually, one of my sons uses it as a last name. He spells it Jatt. In Punjab, it’s pronounced Jutt. People who speak Hindi or Urdu, usually pronounce it Jott. A lot of the time, when South Asian words having a J sound enter the Persian language, the J turns into a Z sound. In our particular tribe, very very bold stories exist telling about a time when many members of the tribe left and headed west, and never came back. I don’t know enough of them really to give you much more than that. I am Canadian born and raised, and I’m still learning my ancestors traditions. But I just wanted to give you that little tidbit.
Thank you so much for this. I’m attending educator classes at our local Holocaust and Genocide Centre and the Sinti are part of this history. Your contribution has helped me immensely.
Nope it was the arabic tribe who invaded india thousands of years ago .. so romani domari sinti lived in north of india for centuries and for centuries they defend north of inida where they lived .. one time we lost and that era was over for the whole india.. and when arabic tribe won they took roma with them to their arabic countries as slaves warriors metal workers who made swords and alot fancy golds and table makers etc .. than the arabic people send them to europe the majority of us as slaves .. the rest run for they life not knowing in Europe is gonna be hell for them as well they run into slavery after slavery..
@@djfrankie7586please, if you dont mind me asking, what were your customs and beliefs before being invaded by the arabic tribe, when your people lived in North India?
Well not all so called gypsy tribes left India in the same time .. there’s the ghawazee tribe they left to Egypt more than 2000 years ago before Christianity existed ever since than they been living there and they still speak the same gypsy Sanskrit language as every where else they were sent away from India by the aryan Hindus .. than there’s the Sinti and Doma tribes they left India majority of them in the 5th century to Iran Persia because they were tired of wars their lands were totally destroyed so they left as refugees .. than the Rom in the north of India Calè in south India Rajasthan they were destroyed by Islamist who come to India to destroy and to rob Hindus of their golds they were called the ghaznavi’s lead by sultan mehmmod ghazni as their leader from Afghanistan they managed to destroy many villages burn down many Hindu temples with their people in it Rom Cale Punjab Rayput tribes tried to stop them but they couldn’t and when they left they taken about 1 million rom Cale Hindu military tribes who were fighting against them with their families and they were taken to Iran Persia in the 10th century they become over there servants metal workers and entertainers from metal they created swords ⚔️ horse shoes and many other military and non military stuff like gold or baskets 🧺 where you could put your weapons also many of Roma man those had experience as soldiers had to fight and etc and the entertainer gypsies were entertained army’s and their kings with music and dance .. this how they lived in Iran for 400 years .. than war break out and the majority of these gypsies left to turkey around 13th century they lived the same life just like in Iran but now they worked for the ottoman army in turkey 🇹🇷 and than ottomans asked more from them short time latter to spy and kill for their army and many Roma and other tribes said no and those become slaved and a small percentage of them escaped to Europe in 13th century and than the majority of them were taken to Europe as slaves and also servants to the ottoman army in the 14th till the 16th century .. this is the stories of the European roma .. they also mixed with others where they lived for centuries they are mixed groups between Indian Iranian Turkish and those who lives in Europe since the old days also have little bit of European mix in them ..
Excellent piece, this was a very informative lecture. I learned a lot. I couldn’t find much information out there on this topic so thank you for sharing your research.
Roma means = human in our romani language and the word gypsy is an aciant greek world and it means untouchable = dont tuch us or you die in sickness thats just tells you they dont see us as humans they see us as a sickness😷🤒🤧.. and wanna say thank you for not putting us down as a whole race and thank you for your video about us .. godbless you my friend i wish you fortune alott of happiness long life health 🙏 ❤ ..
It actually means fellow tribesmen but Actually A man but it refers to you are my tribe person basically.. They used it when they traveled they became a tribesmen when they traveled so when they would call each other out they would say hey Romalen. means you are my tribesmen
I think that is actually correct, in that one branch of the Roma migration, also called the Ghuraba, did live for a long period in Egypt, before migrating further west, according to research by Kristina Richardson, at CUNY, which a listener pointed out to me.
@@rahulgohadiya9145i love India but we can't come to India again, our culture as changed so much we are our own people now. Romani language have so much words from hindi, sanskrit, gujarati, etc. But It Is a Total different language changed by times
Romanichal dose not mean ' childeren of the roma ' . Childeren in uk romany is chav . Chavo for boys chavi for girls but it is not used corectly anymore . Chal as in romanichal is an archaic anglo romany word for fello . Romanichal means romani folk not romani childeren .
Very interesting. My Granny came from a section of Romania that had became part of Hungary. She was adopted by a Jewish family and came to Canada through the US with my Hungarian peasant grandfather in the early 1800. When she was around 15. She was told she was cursed by a fortune teller who told her she had to travel across an ocean to break the curse. I strongly believe she was Roma. It was known by family members that Granny was a gypsy.
@@Historiansplaining you liar we are not from india we just lived there hundrrts of years Pakistan etc but its not our origin! And we over 30 Million people you dont know anything about Sindi Roma Kaldresasha Lovara Kale Lyuili tribes we all different we all different and we are not Indians.
@@houseofhope6885 Neverte mu, Cigáni sú Bohom vyvolení národ a sme Stratené kmene z Izraela-v Starom zákone sú naše zvyky-kultúra a náš severný Izraelský pôvod-v Biblii máme stovky cigánskych slov ako mháro -mana znamená chlieb-paraštú-piatok-ťinav-kúpim a atak ďalej....
@@houseofhope6885could you please tell me where your people originate from? I've always been very interested in ancient histories of all peoples of the earth. I'm far more interested in ancient days than recent ones
I’d love to learn more on why they are said to originate in India. Who is the seed of the Romani in India ? Some Romani reject the theory stating anything related to northern india.
Many have theorized that the "Therapeutae" of Egypt, discussed in Philo, were hindu monks who came to Alexandria due to its well documented trade with India. Why is there no possibility that the Greeks were right when they called the Gypsies Egyptian? If it's possible that Hindu monks came to Egypt through its trade, why couldn't that have been the path to Europe for the ancestors of the Roma?
A current historian, Kristina Richardson, has recently researched the Roma community in Egypt, called Ghuraba, and it does seem very likely that at least one major Roma migration into Europe derived from that group. This is a very new and evolving field. You can see her discuss the Ghuraba in various places such as here. th-cam.com/video/ERSduCs3Afg/w-d-xo.html
I thought it important to describe some parts of this cannon because this rare article accurately describes the historical events in question. Historical Narrative Historians and ethnologists who claim that the Roma came from the Indiesa Milia, because they rely only on one-sided knowledge. Their theory is based only on the linguistic level and does not take into account the Roma culture as a whole, which is more important for their identity than just their acquired language, which they use to communicate. If we agreed with this theory, we should consider all American blacks to be English. This theory is speculative and not correct. Sándor and Vraham greatly contributed to the disinformation about the Indian origin of the Roma, and the Roma themselves, when they wanted to deny their Jewish origin, invented various false stories about their real origin. However, the main blame for this lies with the forgers and misinformers of ancient history. There is a lot of Hebrew ancestry in Romani culture because they come from Israel not India and they are originally Hebrew Israelites. It is clear from irrefutable historical evidence that the Roma are the Jews of Samaria and are the people of the northern kingdom of Israel. Their capital was Samaria in northern Israel until 737-720 BC Now let's talk about Israel and Samaria. A historical biblical name used for the central region of the land of Israel, bounded on the south by Judea and on the north by Galilee. The first-century historian and Josephus set the Mediterranean Sea in the west and the Jordan River in the east as the boundary. Its territory largely corresponds to the biblical allotments of the tribe of Ephraim and the western half of the tribe of Manasseh. After Solomon's death and the division of his kingdom into the southern Kingdom of Judah and the northern Kingdom of Israel, this territory formed the southern part of the Kingdom of Israel. The border between Samaria and Judea was established at the latitude of Ramallah.
Roma people are one of the lost tribe of Israel. They migrated to Northern India for many years, and after that, they left India and spread around the world. THAT’S THE TRUTH that has been hidden!
dingojango, obviously you are a Roma who is embarrased about your Indian origins, something very common among Indian people as well who want to be more white rather than dark skinned. Proves your origins to be truely Indian.
There is an article in the Gaurdian about where Rroma Gypsies originally come from the entomology of words never cease to amaze me since learning to read and write about 13, in 1530 the Egyptian act was passed by Parliament of England in 1551 to expel the outlandish people's calling themselves Egyptians (Gypsies).
My family is Dutch - louder/laughter family but had children out of wedlock with gypsies. This caused my family to flee to the America's to get away from prosecution of having a bastard child with a Romani. We tracked them down to a boat in 1816 but that's about it. I have put the rest together after doing my research. I look white, and technically I guess am? But technically i'm not lol. We thought it was American native American but my mother religiously tracked the family and we had nearly 0 contact with American natives until the late 1890s~ when she found a picture of our somegreat grandfather beside a native man and they were both smiling very very big.
If you wanna really know about the Roma (Gypsie People) ask one.. Im happy to fill in any blanks for you. the so called travelers are not real gypsies we call them Boyosh they were non gypsies (Guysha) who live as gypsies our traditions work ect
No offense to you my Romani friend. But Highland Scottish Travellers are their own unique group indigenous to Scotland. We were there when the Romanichal showed up.
@@jamesford6846 none taken sir. but our traditions are very unique and although the Scottish where there they did pick up our ways its logical that they shared the same views on how they live ect and each group picked up ways of the others. there are no other people on the planet with our customs laws language thats what makes us unique and thats why we only share what we want others to know never ever ever would a Roma people truly share there ways or language with anyone outside. but we do with people in kind share things that would benefit and help others to stay safe and put food on the table.
Glen Kealey says the Roma/Rahmani/Brahmani were the original root races placed as re-searchers in Sri Lanka (IRS = paris, Parthian, Sri Lanka, Persian, etc) then later emigrated all around the world. Later got split into aBRAHAMIC monotheistic faiths (islam, zoroastrian, christianity, Judaism) as they went to middle east (Iran, balkans). Egyptians settled by gypsies. When they went north they split into hindu/Jain/Buddhists. Tao/northeast as they went Far East.
Please let this video tell me anything that is of the words my grandfather used imma american gypsy roma boyish. (Half blood) can't find key words in my language. Many words of my tongue I recognize in all the direc and
To all who have commented here do go through the books/lectures by Dr. Ian Hancock who is prof of Romani studies at Univ of Austin Texas. And he is a Roma himself so better to hear from the horse's mouth wouldn't you say rather than from outsiders/colonisers/oppressors/slave traders
It is a shame that he is not a professor of an institution not affiliated with the oppressors, colonizers, or slave traders. Only then may we say that he does not benefit, in some way, from those people and Western Societal Ideas.
How is yor ' best guess ' that romani are low cast ? What evidence , so.e drivel about rom and dom a d drums . Im really not impressed with this so far . There is plenty of linguistic evidance that romani had a millitary background - this is the leading theory.
The two are not mutually exclusive. rm.coe.int/from-india-to-europe-factsheets-on-romani-history/16808b18ed indianexpress.com/article/explained/meet-the-roma-2000-years-ago-the-first-indians-to-go-to-europe/
The military phase likely came after the initial northwestward migration. On the genetic connection between Roma and Dom: journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0048477
@@Historiansplaining i’m going to try and make some time tonight, to sit down and do that. It’s only one possible part of the story, but it might be an important part.
Regarding the horse trading practice, which (where? the US?) you say used car trading has now replaced, in Appleby, England it’s still ALL about horses
@@CaptainAce0711 Sure, "India" wasn't a country then, but rather, a geographic lablel for a general region in South Asia. I am sorry to say it though, but your description of the origin of the Roma is a mix of fable and wishful thinking. In regards to the origin of the Roma, there is plenty of anthropological, genetic and linguistic evidence in scholarly journals on this subject (which you can look up yourself on google scholar or academia - if you were *really* genuinely interested). The homeland of the proto-Roma population has been confirmed as the Northwestern Indian subcontinent, and they were likely Dalits. Marrying among yourselves (endogamy), makes this sort of genetic detective work easier as founder lineages are preserved, amongst other things.
See the spell correct it works randomly red lines come to the same spellings of the same words but in dif contexts so sometimes you'll send with it changed
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Tippy towing through limbo yup. Yo yo goes up and down. (same old routine) is what I been saying for a long while. Now the advocate as told is bringing memory as I speak or text especially when I'm alone my mind is rationally Imagining all the information of the past as I listen to the wave with my minds eye I think of a lime. Hence the limelight. Lime light? On a wave? . Ha? Oh purity yup many superstition on purity.
What about root for scroll? It will show...SC as two words. And roll as root word rol. Define roll then then research rol as some jade tablet. Gramps's words for asking if you were gypsy was whO mon ness...ness? ness means something. Asking is you are humans as I look at irritating. Never heard the word dom in my tongue. I see so many more words from the internet's compensation of the language. Can't find lovay can't find May whO left too. We haven't but certain specific key traditions but many upon many superstition in my eyes all superstition are for me and mine. I have three eyes as all do. So ppl say , As I havenead
Nomads are those who, because of their flocks or hunting grounds, move to other areas from time to time, remaining within the territories of their country. but what kind of nomads are those who know no borders, have little possessions, and wander almost all over the earth?? this name is not appropriate for the Roma! I would say: refugee!
I have read that the original indian ancestors of the romm were a kind of nomadic border guard caste who either became useless, or fell out of favor in some way. I think the legend may have even been that they failed in their task and were permanently exiled as a result. I know this is vague but it may still be a thread to pull on.
The fact they call non-gypsies 'gaje' (the word means 'civilians') supports the idea that they were in fact from the warrior caste. Maybe Rajput Kshatriyas
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You are 100% wrong we have no similarities with Indian people when we were there it was not India we are lost tribe of Jews from Levi's Judah Benjamin every Gypsy has Jewish in their DNA
When i spell these words the wrong way because I know not how to spell the words. I see American words just framed together. Weird. The couple I've used I see ... Guygshe female and guyjoe. Male. I've seen and herd of guy Jen. I see Guy g she and think wwjd say or think. So in seeing Guy G She I see that the guy that was put under a sleep was good given the she And looking at guyjoe I see a guy named Joe.
Do your research St Martha was so gypsies gypsies go back as far as the times of that is English Irish and American but then you have diddycoys who originated from a tree has many do DNA testing before you about what
@@cooljeffrox we get it your upset people think you are one of them. You are plain Romanian. 😂 it's not like we chose to be in your country 🤷♀️ you sound racist when you said it's degrading and the whole of Romania is degrading, your people are bad to! No one stays in Romania because of so much poverty and corruption. Please go back and help your starving people. Leave us Roma alone we are like the African Americans in Romanian! even to this day.
@@cooljeffroxI can guess your political leanings from these 2 comments alone. >Spreads misinformation >Refuses to acknowledge the correct information >Absolutely no reading or listening comprehension Sounds like a conservative if I've ever seen one. 😂
@@goneseeyou they are not jews. You can see some gypsyes take DNA tests here on TH-cam too, and the majority of their DNA are indians, stop spreading misinformation
@@goneseeyou They are not jews, you can see Gypsyes take DNA test here on TH-cam too, and their DNA results are mostly from India, stop spreading misinformation.
Please let this video tell me anything that is of the words my grandfather used imma american gypsy roma boyish. (Half blood) can't find key words in my language. Many words of my tongue I recognize in all the direc and
Please let this video tell me anything that is of the words my grandfather used imma american gypsy roma boyish. (Half blood) can't find key words in my language. Many words of my tongue I recognize in all the direc and
There really is not such a thing as half blood because no Romani is a full romani, they would have had to have never bread with any person from india to the west and that just is not the case. So all Romani are genetically only part Romani. Culturally if you have two romani parents you can say you are a proper romani in a way . Also being dark skinned does not make you more romani. British Romany even a hundred years back and on the oldest photos do not look that dark skinned often. Romani is indian and also northern pakistan Buruskho who are very very light skinned and often blue eyed.
I'm Romani and I'm glad people are starting to educate themselves on these people. A couple of years ago this wasn't talked about at all people didn't have a clue, just the media etc.
This video was the best explanation about us. Thank you
History it's so good.
Oh wow, what country do you live in? I think the Romani people are so interesting. Thank you for commenting. I am writing a story with some romani characters 1820 France, Do you think a Romani woman would have married a French man?
This is the best historical account about the Roma people that I have ever heard, seen or read. Thank you! I have subscribed.
Hey Sam! So good to hear your voice. And such an awesome subject! One that I have been interested in for a long time. I’m about 24 minutes in, and you are talking about a group called the Zott. Or at least, that’s how the Persians seem to be pronouncing it. I’m almost 100% sure that that is my own ethnic/tribal people group, and we, depending on where in South Asia we are, pronounce it differently. Usually, when it’s spelled in English, it’s spelled either Jat or Jatt. Actually, one of my sons uses it as a last name. He spells it Jatt. In Punjab, it’s pronounced Jutt. People who speak Hindi or Urdu, usually pronounce it Jott. A lot of the time, when South Asian words having a J sound enter the Persian language, the J turns into a Z sound. In our particular tribe, very very bold stories exist telling about a time when many members of the tribe left and headed west, and never came back. I don’t know enough of them really to give you much more than that. I am Canadian born and raised, and I’m still learning my ancestors traditions. But I just wanted to give you that little tidbit.
09:30 egypt ?😊
@@londonbowcat1no!
I'm an Indo-Canadian (Punjabi), and very intrigued/excited to see your comment!
Thank you so much for this. I’m attending educator classes at our local Holocaust and Genocide Centre and the Sinti are part of this history. Your contribution has helped me immensely.
You would be a better
educator if you also watch other videos . For example The History Channel.
If they appeared in Europe 1000-1500 years ago, perhaps they were driven out of India by the Moghul invasions.
It seems that linguistic and genetic evidence points toward an earlier emigration and divergence from the Indian population.
Nope it was the arabic tribe who invaded india thousands of years ago .. so romani domari sinti lived in north of india for centuries and for centuries they defend north of inida where they lived .. one time we lost and that era was over for the whole india.. and when arabic tribe won they took roma with them to their arabic countries as slaves warriors metal workers who made swords and alot fancy golds and table makers etc .. than the arabic people send them to europe the majority of us as slaves .. the rest run for they life not knowing in Europe is gonna be hell for them as well they run into slavery after slavery..
And yes also the mongols ottoman empire took many roma as warriors to do their dirty jobs ..
@@djfrankie7586please, if you dont mind me asking, what were your customs and beliefs before being invaded by the arabic tribe, when your people lived in North India?
Well not all so called gypsy tribes left India in the same time .. there’s the ghawazee tribe they left to Egypt more than 2000 years ago before Christianity existed ever since than they been living there and they still speak the same gypsy Sanskrit language as every where else they were sent away from India by the aryan Hindus .. than there’s the Sinti and Doma tribes they left India majority of them in the 5th century to Iran Persia because they were tired of wars their lands were totally destroyed so they left as refugees .. than the Rom in the north of India Calè in south India Rajasthan they were destroyed by Islamist who come to India to destroy and to rob Hindus of their golds they were called the ghaznavi’s lead by sultan mehmmod ghazni as their leader from Afghanistan they managed to destroy many villages burn down many Hindu temples with their people in it Rom Cale Punjab Rayput tribes tried to stop them but they couldn’t and when they left they taken about 1 million rom Cale Hindu military tribes who were fighting against them with their families and they were taken to Iran Persia in the 10th century they become over there servants metal workers and entertainers from metal they created swords ⚔️ horse shoes and many other military and non military stuff like gold or baskets 🧺 where you could put your weapons also many of Roma man those had experience as soldiers had to fight and etc and the entertainer gypsies were entertained army’s and their kings with music and dance .. this how they lived in Iran for 400 years .. than war break out and the majority of these gypsies left to turkey around 13th century they lived the same life just like in Iran but now they worked for the ottoman army in turkey 🇹🇷 and than ottomans asked more from them short time latter to spy and kill for their army and many Roma and other tribes said no and those become slaved and a small percentage of them escaped to Europe in 13th century and than the majority of them were taken to Europe as slaves and also servants to the ottoman army in the 14th till the 16th century .. this is the stories of the European roma .. they also mixed with others where they lived for centuries they are mixed groups between Indian Iranian Turkish and those who lives in Europe since the old days also have little bit of European mix in them ..
Excellent piece, this was a very informative lecture. I learned a lot. I couldn’t find much information out there on this topic so thank you for sharing your research.
Roma means = human in our romani language and the word gypsy is an aciant greek world and it means untouchable = dont tuch us or you die in sickness thats just tells you they dont see us as humans they see us as a sickness😷🤒🤧.. and wanna say thank you for not putting us down as a whole race and thank you for your video about us .. godbless you my friend i wish you fortune alott of happiness long life health 🙏 ❤ ..
And it’s true aswell 😂
It actually means fellow tribesmen but Actually A man but it refers to you are my tribe person basically.. They used it when they traveled they became a tribesmen when they traveled so when they would call each other out they would say hey Romalen. means you are my tribesmen
Im rom-kale from Spain and I would to can read subtitles in spanish. I dont understand well, but i can to understand better if I can to read
This is incredible thank you!
🎀Brilliant lecture. Thank you.🎀
Maybe in their migration from India, the lived for some time in Egypt or passed thru Egypt.
I think that is actually correct, in that one branch of the Roma migration, also called the Ghuraba, did live for a long period in Egypt, before migrating further west, according to research by Kristina Richardson, at CUNY, which a listener pointed out to me.
They pretended to be from Egypt when they saw that Coptic pilgrims were treated well in Constantinople. They were offered food and shelter.
Please come to India again welcome heartly
@@rahulgohadiya9145i love India but we can't come to India again, our culture as changed so much we are our own people now. Romani language have so much words from hindi, sanskrit, gujarati, etc. But It Is a Total different language changed by times
That was great. Thanks
Great!!!!TYSM🌟🐞
Romanichal dose not mean ' childeren of the roma ' . Childeren in uk romany is chav . Chavo for boys chavi for girls but it is not used corectly anymore .
Chal as in romanichal is an archaic anglo romany word for fello . Romanichal means romani folk not romani childeren .
Something like but not really like that
@@gypsyami7475 what ?
Chal is derived from "Chalo" - Hindustani / Sanskrit root for "onwards."
Very interesting. My Granny came from a section of Romania that had became part of Hungary. She was adopted by a Jewish family and came to Canada through the US with my Hungarian peasant grandfather in the early 1800. When she was around 15. She was told she was cursed by a fortune teller who told her she had to travel across an ocean to break the curse. I strongly believe she was Roma. It was known by family members that Granny was a gypsy.
my family has a similar story of a fortune teller warning my great-grandmother not to emigrate to America, but she did not heed it.
@@Historiansplaining you liar we are not from india we just lived there hundrrts of years Pakistan etc but its not our origin! And we over 30 Million people you dont know anything about Sindi Roma Kaldresasha Lovara Kale Lyuili tribes we all different we all different and we are not Indians.
@@houseofhope6885 Neverte mu, Cigáni sú Bohom vyvolení národ a sme Stratené kmene z Izraela-v Starom zákone sú naše zvyky-kultúra a náš severný Izraelský pôvod-v Biblii máme stovky cigánskych slov ako mháro -mana znamená chlieb-paraštú-piatok-ťinav-kúpim a atak ďalej....
@@houseofhope6885could you please tell me where your people originate from? I've always been very interested in ancient histories of all peoples of the earth. I'm far more interested in ancient days than recent ones
I’d love to learn more on why they are said to originate in India. Who is the seed of the Romani in India ? Some Romani reject the theory stating anything related to northern india.
We worked hydraulics in north Hollywood g maw was a fortune teller hand and palm sign but she did all typed of Magicka anyone needed
53:00 I want to see this law
Watched Gadjo dilo and now I'm here
Many have theorized that the "Therapeutae" of Egypt, discussed in Philo, were hindu monks who came to Alexandria due to its well documented trade with India. Why is there no possibility that the Greeks were right when they called the Gypsies Egyptian? If it's possible that Hindu monks came to Egypt through its trade, why couldn't that have been the path to Europe for the ancestors of the Roma?
A current historian, Kristina Richardson, has recently researched the Roma community in Egypt, called Ghuraba, and it does seem very likely that at least one major Roma migration into Europe derived from that group. This is a very new and evolving field. You can see her discuss the Ghuraba in various places such as here. th-cam.com/video/ERSduCs3Afg/w-d-xo.html
I thought it important to describe some parts of this cannon because this rare article accurately describes the historical events in question. Historical Narrative Historians and ethnologists who claim that the Roma came from the Indiesa Milia, because they rely only on one-sided knowledge. Their theory is based only on the linguistic level and does not take into account the Roma culture as a whole, which is more important for their identity than just their acquired language, which they use to communicate.
If we agreed with this theory, we should consider all American blacks to be English. This theory is speculative and not correct. Sándor and Vraham greatly contributed to the disinformation about the Indian origin of the Roma, and the Roma themselves, when they wanted to deny their Jewish origin, invented various false stories about their real origin.
However, the main blame for this lies with the forgers and misinformers of ancient history. There is a lot of Hebrew ancestry in Romani culture because they come from Israel not India and they are originally Hebrew Israelites. It is clear from irrefutable historical evidence that the Roma are the Jews of Samaria and are the people of the northern kingdom of Israel.
Their capital was Samaria in northern Israel until 737-720 BC Now let's talk about Israel and Samaria. A historical biblical name used for the central region of the land of Israel, bounded on the south by Judea and on the north by Galilee. The first-century historian and Josephus set the Mediterranean Sea in the west and the Jordan River in the east as the boundary.
Its territory largely corresponds to the biblical allotments of the tribe of Ephraim and the western half of the tribe of Manasseh. After Solomon's death and the division of his kingdom into the southern Kingdom of Judah and the northern Kingdom of Israel, this territory formed the southern part of the Kingdom of Israel. The border between Samaria and Judea was established at the latitude of Ramallah.
Hebrew Gypsies???
Roma people are one of the lost tribe of Israel. They migrated to Northern India for many years, and after that, they left India and spread around the world. THAT’S THE TRUTH that has been hidden!
Brother big respect for you you are fiirst guy who set true you are gypsy přála?
ahahahahahha thats not true dude
@@-qwertyy3 are you gypsy
dingojango, obviously you are a Roma who is embarrased about your Indian origins, something very common among Indian people as well who want to be more white rather than dark skinned. Proves your origins to be truely Indian.
What the hell are you saying Bro, that's false, take a DNA test and see who you are for real, an indian from India
There is an article in the Gaurdian about where Rroma Gypsies originally come from the entomology of words never cease to amaze me since learning to read and write about 13, in 1530 the Egyptian act was passed by Parliament of England in 1551 to expel the outlandish people's calling themselves Egyptians (Gypsies).
Us Romanichal Gypsies are still legally Egyptian in Scots and English Law. x
My family is Dutch - louder/laughter family but had children out of wedlock with gypsies. This caused my family to flee to the America's to get away from prosecution of having a bastard child with a Romani. We tracked them down to a boat in 1816 but that's about it. I have put the rest together after doing my research. I look white, and technically I guess am? But technically i'm not lol. We thought it was American native American but my mother religiously tracked the family and we had nearly 0 contact with American natives until the late 1890s~ when she found a picture of our somegreat grandfather beside a native man and they were both smiling very very big.
If you wanna really know about the Roma (Gypsie People) ask one.. Im happy to fill in any blanks for you. the so called travelers are not real gypsies we call them Boyosh they were non gypsies (Guysha) who live as gypsies our traditions work ect
No offense to you my Romani friend. But Highland Scottish Travellers are their own unique group indigenous to Scotland. We were there when the Romanichal showed up.
@@jamesford6846 none taken sir. but our traditions are very unique and although the Scottish where there they did pick up our ways its logical that they shared the same views on how they live ect and each group picked up ways of the others. there are no other people on the planet with our customs laws language thats what makes us unique and thats why we only share what we want others to know never ever ever would a Roma people truly share there ways or language with anyone outside. but we do with people in kind share things that would benefit and help others to stay safe and put food on the table.
She called e her lil blooka. And that is a widespread name for male witch
Glen Kealey says the Roma/Rahmani/Brahmani were the original root races placed as re-searchers in Sri Lanka (IRS = paris, Parthian, Sri Lanka, Persian, etc) then later emigrated all around the world.
Later got split into aBRAHAMIC monotheistic faiths (islam, zoroastrian, christianity, Judaism) as they went to middle east (Iran, balkans). Egyptians settled by gypsies.
When they went north they split into hindu/Jain/Buddhists.
Tao/northeast as they went Far East.
And who told you all that
Where do you get your information from???
What a load of nonsense.
BS
appretiate the work did zou ever trz to move back in time and the more ancient migration along the same route about the time of heron and archimedes
Please let this video tell me anything that is of the words my grandfather used imma american gypsy roma boyish. (Half blood) can't find key words in my language. Many words of my tongue I recognize in all the direc
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I am white but Ive worked and traveled with gypsies here in the United States for almost 30 years
To all who have commented here do go through the books/lectures by Dr. Ian Hancock who is prof of Romani studies at Univ of Austin Texas. And he is a Roma himself so better to hear from the horse's mouth wouldn't you say rather than from outsiders/colonisers/oppressors/slave traders
It is a shame that he is not a professor of an institution not affiliated with the oppressors, colonizers, or slave traders. Only then may we say that he does not benefit, in some way, from those people and Western Societal Ideas.
Gupta गप and Αίγυπτο/Aegyptus overlap into Κοπτος - Copt.
Yoy oh devla
Excellent podcast, but it was not clear difference between romani and present Romania people..
How is yor ' best guess ' that romani are low cast ? What evidence , so.e drivel about rom and dom a d drums .
Im really not impressed with this so far . There is plenty of linguistic evidance that romani had a millitary background - this is the leading theory.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
rm.coe.int/from-india-to-europe-factsheets-on-romani-history/16808b18ed
indianexpress.com/article/explained/meet-the-roma-2000-years-ago-the-first-indians-to-go-to-europe/
The military phase likely came after the initial northwestward migration.
On the genetic connection between Roma and Dom:
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0048477
Also Sam, can I contact you at a specific email address? I just wanted to give you a few more details, if you want them.
Absolutely Tamara, I would love to know more about exactly where you family stems from! Please email, historiansplaining@gmail.com !
@@Historiansplaining i’m going to try and make some time tonight, to sit down and do that. It’s only one possible part of the story, but it might be an important part.
@@Historiansplaining1537 act "outlandish people calling themselves Egyptians"
Guygshe. Idk how spell it
Regarding the horse trading practice, which (where? the US?) you say used car trading has now replaced, in Appleby, England it’s still ALL about horses
There are people in north Nigeria called shu Arab . I think they are gypsies
good one lmaooo
They were basically a Dalit (untouchable) caste.
Migrated possibly due to upheaval.
@@CaptainAce0711 Yep.
@@CaptainAce0711 In fact, Roma don't have a clue where they came from. Please, go back to India.
@@CaptainAce0711 Sure, "India" wasn't a country then, but rather, a geographic lablel for a general region in South Asia.
I am sorry to say it though, but your description of the origin of the Roma is a mix of fable and wishful thinking. In regards to the origin of the Roma, there is plenty of anthropological, genetic and linguistic evidence in scholarly journals on this subject (which you can look up yourself on google scholar or academia - if you were *really* genuinely interested). The homeland of the proto-Roma population has been confirmed as the Northwestern Indian subcontinent, and they were likely Dalits. Marrying among yourselves (endogamy), makes this sort of genetic detective work easier as founder lineages are preserved, amongst other things.
The Gome are the lost tribe of Israel..They traveled all over ..Even to India
That word ma he may. U clean. Grandma's word used so often.
That word means unclean and it can't be clean get back with me please
That word also means filthy and cannot be cleaned or when somebody curse 30 words out of their mouth embarrassing words meant that and more
See the spell correct it works randomly red lines come to the same spellings of the same words but in dif contexts so sometimes you'll send with it changed
Ni eesh dooka yo oh
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Tippy towing through limbo yup. Yo yo goes up and down. (same old routine) is what I been saying for a long while. Now the advocate as told is bringing memory as I speak or text especially when I'm alone my mind is rationally Imagining all the information of the past as I listen to the wave with my minds eye I think of a lime. Hence the limelight. Lime light? On a wave? . Ha? Oh purity yup many superstition on purity.
Na mi ma he may spirito devla duey. Yo oh ally precaza onn duey my resh rooms
You remember the words you know the meaning
Not nomadic by choice
I get so angry when I try speaking of this because there's something in the way.
Like I said get back with me tell me what you want to know
But only when I speak my truth in my eye as I see my words.
31:15 book?
There we said the same thing mahe may
Misunderstanding ni eesh dooka the word correct seen and changed those 3 words to my resh rooms
What about root for scroll? It will show...SC as two words. And roll as root word rol. Define roll then then research rol as some jade tablet. Gramps's words for asking if you were gypsy was whO mon ness...ness? ness means something. Asking is you are humans as I look at irritating. Never heard the word dom in my tongue. I see so many more words from the internet's compensation of the language. Can't find lovay can't find May whO left too. We haven't but certain specific key traditions but many upon many superstition in my eyes all superstition are for me and mine. I have three eyes as all do. So ppl say
, As I havenead
No wonder why there are only 3.44K subscriber.
Splashed
I do my best not to sweat. so forgive me the messages send on there own at time
Always I have to call it out and defeat this beng
Unclean freekn keyboard says what it wants
Nomads are those who, because of their flocks or hunting grounds, move to other areas from time to time, remaining within the territories of their country. but what kind of nomads are those who know no borders, have little possessions, and wander almost all over the earth?? this name is not appropriate for the Roma! I would say: refugee!
Wrong the highest concentration is not in Romania but in Bulgaria. Do your research again...!!
I have read that the original indian ancestors of the romm were a kind of nomadic border guard caste who either became useless, or fell out of favor in some way. I think the legend may have even been that they failed in their task and were permanently exiled as a result. I know this is vague but it may still be a thread to pull on.
The fact they call non-gypsies 'gaje' (the word means 'civilians') supports the idea that they were in fact from the warrior caste. Maybe Rajput Kshatriyas
I'm sure Roma Gypsies would love to go back home to India. I'm hoping everyone will allow them to rejoin their roots. 😅😅❤
You should go back to your roots to lol
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Amen son
You are 100% wrong we have no similarities with Indian people when we were there it was not India we are lost tribe of Jews from Levi's Judah Benjamin every Gypsy has Jewish in their DNA
When i spell these words the wrong way because I know not how to spell the words. I see American words just framed together. Weird. The couple I've used I see ...
Guygshe female and guyjoe. Male. I've seen and herd of guy Jen.
I see Guy g she and think wwjd say or think.
So in seeing Guy G She I see that the guy that was put under a sleep was good given the she
And looking at guyjoe I see a guy named Joe.
Do your research St Martha was so gypsies gypsies go back as far as the times of that is English Irish and American but then you have diddycoys who originated from a tree has many do DNA testing before you about what
Something like that I guess I know more than that
I myself am boyish born of pure blood father and mother is guygee
Its all liars! Its not true!
What are you even talking about
Not because they are called romani that they are concentrated in Romania...that's stupid and degrading for Romanians.
The lecture did not say that, and extensively discussed the origins of the word "Roma." You obviously did not listen.
@@ambitionbird why will I lsiten to this fictitious history that was never been reserche? that's why I called this stupid.
@@cooljeffrox we get it your upset people think you are one of them. You are plain Romanian. 😂
it's not like we chose to be in your country 🤷♀️ you sound racist when you said it's degrading and the whole of Romania is degrading, your people are bad to! No one stays in Romania because of so much poverty and corruption. Please go back and help your starving people. Leave us Roma alone we are like the African Americans in Romanian! even to this day.
@@cooljeffroxI can guess your political leanings from these 2 comments alone.
>Spreads misinformation
>Refuses to acknowledge the correct information
>Absolutely no reading or listening comprehension
Sounds like a conservative if I've ever seen one. 😂
they are Jews
Indian.
How do u knw I think that to
They are not Jews, their language, DNA, and religion are different from the Jews.
@@CaptainAce0711 You’re incredibly ignorant. Our roots have been proven. We all have Indian DNA. Stop being such an ignoramus.
@@CaptainAce0711 Science. If you’re Romany, what’s your vitsa?
Lost tribes off israeli
Yep as many cane from North Africa
No, they are from India, they are not jews
@@jdaimaoh765 do you know what a jew or Jewish person is ??
Or can you define a Jewish person 🤔
@@goneseeyou they are not jews. You can see some gypsyes take DNA tests here on TH-cam too, and the majority of their DNA are indians, stop spreading misinformation
@@goneseeyou They are not jews, you can see Gypsyes take DNA test here on TH-cam too, and their DNA results are mostly from India, stop spreading misinformation.
Please let this video tell me anything that is of the words my grandfather used imma american gypsy roma boyish. (Half blood) can't find key words in my language. Many words of my tongue I recognize in all the direc
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Get back with me what you want to know
Please let this video tell me anything that is of the words my grandfather used imma american gypsy roma boyish. (Half blood) can't find key words in my language. Many words of my tongue I recognize in all the direc
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There really is not such a thing as half blood because no Romani is a full romani, they would have had to have never bread with any person from india to the west and that just is not the case. So all Romani are genetically only part Romani. Culturally if you have two romani parents you can say you are a proper romani in a way . Also being dark skinned does not make you more romani. British Romany even a hundred years back and on the oldest photos do not look that dark skinned often. Romani is indian and also northern pakistan Buruskho who are very very light skinned and often blue eyed.
@@Edangiolino my ROM family are called black faces by other ROM or travelers and lots are still very dark but other families are lighter skinned.