I am the original owner of a 2002 Porsche Boxster S. I have sorted out all of the major issues RMS and IMS. Including replacing the plastic window and convertible top. Love your commentary. Keep up the good work. I will hold on to my 21 year old Boxster S. It is indeed a blast to drive on a Fall Sunday morning.
Wow, that’s great that you have owned it from new and still enjoying it as a modern clsssic. I think they are fantastic cars and as you say, with any car, a bit of work required to keep them in tip top condition. Cheers, Phil
A short lived rattle at start up is due to the hydraulic timing chain tensioners needing time to fill with oil and do their job. Lots of 986 and 996s are like that and it doesn't point to IMS issues. Taking the old oil filter apart after a service and looking for metal fragments or checking the amount of cam timing variance using a suitable CAN diagnostics tool are two ways to see if the bearing is starting to fail. Usually it goes all at once without prior warning. As someone else has pointed out its over hyped, though the 2.5 has the benefit of a dual row bearing which is stronger than the later ones.
Thanks for contributing with the additional technical info! I tried my best not to overstate the problem but felt obliged to cover it. All cars have their foibles and often they end up being overstated on forums. Thanks, Phil
Purchased my 2000 Boxster S in 2003. I must agree with all your observations. I did the IMS bearing shortly after purchase and has been awesome. The car is unique in its handling and performance. With 37,000 miles on the clock my garage queen will be with me until I can't handle the clutch anymore. My plan is to leave it to one of my 3 grandsons. I'm sure there will be fight over it. Oh yeah... one other issue was a leaking coolant tank in the rear boot which wound up being a minor cost.
Sounds like you have got a great condition car there and it’s being well looked after! Incredibly low miles too, hope you enjoy putting a few more miles on it, they’re incredible cars 👍
I recently bought a 2004 boxster S 550 spyder 6 speed anniversary model, number 779. Got it for a great price. It's mostly been sitting for the last 8 years or so. But everything still works great, and yes, it really does go 0 to 60 in just over 5 seconds, in 2nd gear! Came with a Boze 9 speaker sound system.
I owned a 2.7 from new and after a 16 year gap have bought a 2004 986 S as the Boxster is hand on heart the best driving car I’ve ever owned. You’ve described it well. Going to the shop or the Cote dAzur - and I’ve done both it’s just perfect for the Stelvio or Sainsbury. You’ve described it well.
The Boxster I had the privilege of driving for the video was wonderful to drive. The suspension on them is next level for comfort and grip. Glad you enjoyed the video, I had a lot of fun making it!
Amazing review! I’m 16 and have grown up around Porsches my whole life, this time next year I plan on owning my very own 986 Boxster S… AKA the gateway drug into Porsches. I’ve been non stop watching and reading reviews on them, specifically the 02-04 ones, and i’ve never been more excited!
Hey, glad you liked the review, especially if you have been watching lots of other ones! 👍 A Boxster seems like a difficult car to insure for a new driver but I hope you find a way given your passion for them! Thanks, Phil
Great review Phil I have owned a late 03 2.7 986 for 9 years only got 56000 on clock great car it’s my road trip car down to Tarifa spain was the best she never missed a beat 😎👍
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! I checked out your road trip video, looks like you had a great time! That's a really nice Boxster and well looked after by the looks of it! Plenty more years of happy motoring ahead of you guys! Cheers, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide cheers Phil hope to get a few more road trips in and document them I am just getting used to editing on the new iMac so hopefully the vlogs will get better has we do more and yes your right the 986 prices do seem to be creeping up and I think they will be a future classic loved your vlog mate keep them coming 😎👍 cheers martin
@martin's Adventures Thanks! Look forward to seeing more of your content too! I will go subscribe to your channel and hopefully see it when it comes in!
Glad you enjoyed the video! They are great cars to drive, I had a lot of fun with that one 👍 I actually own a BMW Z4m, which is a big rival to the Boxster S, I should do a review on it as a comparison! Cheers, Phil
Wow really! Small world! When I drove the car, it was owned by a friend of mine who is a car enthusiast and has a list of cars he wants to own / drive. He doesn’t keep them long but he bought from a lady in the Leeds area who found she was just doing an mot and a service and hardly using it every year. It’s a really good example, you’ve got a great car there! Cheers, Phil
Dark gray 2001 Boxster S here! Six speed manual, what a car! Don't forget proper tires, because they vastly improve cornering and curve behavior. Mine is fitted with the Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06, and they are phenomenal... Extremely grippy, wet or dry, and extremely comfortable. It's an all season tire, and actually does well in the snow, so don't expect it to do as well as the Continental summer tire! By the way, I'm about to buy a set of the Continental summer tire version because of a TH-cam review by Tyre Reviews. I get nothing for recommending it, he just does phenomenal reviews.
Hi Joe, thanks for your comments! Yes, that's a really good point, Boxsters are more sensitive than most to tyre choice and so it is worth doing the research! (which you have clearly done!) Thanks for the recommendations for tyres! Bet your car looks great in the dark grey! thanks, Phil
Thanks! The sound came out much better than expected! Induction noise from the air intake for some of it and then some exhaust noise from a camera mounted near the tail pipes in other clips!
Hey, thanks very much! The others are great cars too but I think the S is the pick of bunch and the one that will stretch ahead in terms of values in the future!
I bought my first Porsche at the weekend and collect in a week or so. You video was useful and built on my recent research into the car and what to look for. Mine is identical to the model you demonstrated Boxster S in silver with the blue roof etc. Cheers! Joe
Great content, I am looking to buy a Boxster and I am split between to 986S and 987S, both have there positive and negative points, the 987 models being newer are obviously more expensive, Decisions decisions.
I have some friends that are car gurus and put your dilemma to them, they have the following comments: "Build quality, especially interior fit and finish is better with the newer ones", "Like the later one - interior nicer too", " I'm kind of liking the retro'ness of the 986 headlights these days", "the engine size increased on the later 987 from 3.2 to 3.4 with Power moving from 254 to 291.", " I love the Lobster wheels of the 987 generation" MY COMMENT: Both great cars, power I don't think is a big deal as the car is all about balance and poise, 986 may become sought after as the 1st gen of the Boxster, 987 will likely have more of the mechanical "bugs" resolved and a better screwed together does feel tempting! Hope this helps some! Glad you liked the vid and thanks for your comment 👍😎 Cheers, Phil
Liked review. Mine is an S. 41,000 miles. Great Car. Look at Mathewsons Auction today ,tomorrow. They have a yellow S. 32000 miles!!! Interesting to see what it goes for. Ciao. Paul
Hi Paul, went for £16k! I think they are definitely going up in price! www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-297---2000-porsche-boxster-s/?lot=3574&so=0&st=boxster&sto=0&au=4&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=1&pp=48&pn=1&g=1
It’s amazing how often a car can be found in fond memories. My grandpa had an Old Ford Mustang and it does take me back to good times when I see one. You should definitely consider getting a Boxster, I’m sure you’ll have a real connection to the car 👍 cheers, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide what is a the price going for usually? Do you know a reliable source for price check. I talked to him about it, he told me he misses that car, I told him the red seats and carpet and the handle. Honestly the car is very beautiful, my uncle also had the bmw m3 e46 from 2003. Something about the Porsche.
@@Jasongy827 hi, I haven’t checked prices for a while but I tend to use “for sale prices” as a guide, so looking at what they are going for on EBay Motors or Autotrader but also bearing in mind that is what they are listed for, not what they are selling for! Cheers, Phil
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I just bought one today, well really, started the buying process last week, but today I picked it up and drove the long way home with the top down. My new sweetheart is a 2004 Porsche Boxster S, 6 speed manual trans, 87K miles on the odometer, It's a midnight blue exterior, medium gray and black interior. I keep going outside just to look at it. :) Gave 13K USD for it. :) This is my first Porsche, but I fell in love with the 1985 Porsche 928 Si while stationed in Germany in the mid 80's.
The spec on your new Porsche is really nice great colour combination and that sounds like a good price too 👍 My Dad was stationed in Germany late 70’s, he came back with a VW Beetle! 😂
Bought my first 986 tiptronic base 1998 model in Hawaii 2018 for just $5K. It had 172000 miles on it with no ims history completed. In 3 1/2 yrs I put 5000 miles on it. I sold it in Dec ‘21 when Covid and a health issue forced me out of the islands. Now 6 months later in Idaho, I’m in a ‘02 Boxster S sporting guards red & which I paid $11k. It has 119000 miles, with ims and clutch done. Some of the things I have to do is change a wheel bearing, upgrade from the broken Porsche radio (do I go LED?) & purchase missing wind deflectors. There hasn’t been a huge uptick in Boxster prices in the USA but I believe one is coming.
Wow, you've had a quite a journey with your 986's so far! Your new car sounds like a good one that has been well sorted and looked after! You got yours for a good price and they are still similarly priced here in the UK but I think and uptick in prices is coming soon! Sorry, no ideas about the radio... but there is a good thread on a Porsche Forum here where they are bouncing ideas around that may help you! 986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/81414-radio-recommendations-986-a.html
2002 986 S- great review. I absolutely love this car! Prices in the US are almost double. You won’t find an S in decent shape with low miles for under 10,000. Potentially the standard boxster but again, they are typically high mileage with some issues.
Thanks for the price info, will be interesting to see what happens to 986 prices! I think at the moment, owners won't lose money in depreciation and in the long term, the cars will go up in value, which makes them a great investment as well as a great car to own!
I own a 2.7 tip and I love it suits my style of mixed driving I had a m3 before this though the boxes per not as fast makes up with the handling its amazing car
Agree, the Boxster seems to have the perfect blend of power and handling. Power delivery really suits the characteristics of the car. I actually think it has the best suspension I have come across for absorbing bumps in the road and also delivering a great sporty feel! 👍
You should not talk BS. 2.5 engines are less (not more) likely to develop bore-scoring than the larger 3.2 in the S. For obvious reasons: same engine (!) with smaller cylinders. In addition, the IMS in 2.5 is dual row bearing, versus single row in most later engines. Single row has higher chance of failure.
I own a 2004 Boxster S. it’s an absolute dream to drive. Even my mate that has a second generation GT3 loves driving my car. To all those snobs that say it’s not a proper Porsche, I say bollocks. The car that saved them from being bought out. Good vid.👍👍
Thanks, glad you liked the vid! 😎 That's such a good point, the brilliant Boxster did save Porsche! Honestly, they are awesome to drive and yes, most "not a real Porsche" comments are either snobbery or jealousy but more fool them! You don't hear it so much anymore because the Boxster has proved itself I think...
Great review. I just came across with one of my acquaintances who recommended this car. He is a Porsche fan and has a 997.. :) This car doubled in price at least here in Europe. I am planning to buy it this summer. The 2003-4 one with a facelift as you recommended. 2.7 motor. Thanks again. I will keep you updated with the process! Have a good one. Cheers.
Thanks for your comment, glad you liked the video! Wow, that will be an amazing car for you and you can own it setting aside money for maintenance / servicing but also knowing it will be depreciation free (which as most know, is actually the biggest motoring cost of all!). Be great to hear an update once you have got one and what you think to it! Thanks, Phil
Great review of the Porsche Boxster S 986 3.2 just bought one and can’t wait to get behind the wheel. Any other tips regarding this model would be appreciated. Cheers 🍻Brian
Congrats, they’re a wonderful car, you’ll love it! The intermediate shaft and rear main oil seals are the main things to look for but there has been some hysteria about it and so the occurrence rate has been over emphasised in my opinion. Even so, get to know your car and the symptoms for these two issues and keep an eye out. Oil leaks on a Boxster engine should always be investigated as could be a sign of these issues. Also, a rattle on start up or when going onto the throttle. Only other thing is, to use it! They are really well engineered cars but all mechanical devices work better if used regularly. Cheers, Phil
Hi liked the review. I have 2002 Boxter S 41,000 miles…. I love it , but it’s a toy not a regular drive .IMS bearing is changed by Porsche specialist, It’s true that they are coming a classic car. Look out for Mathewsons auction today and tomorrow. They have a yellow one (Boxter S) mint, only 32,000 Miles.!!! It will be interesting to see what it goes for. Cheers for now. Paul . ,
@@patrickgr1547 Oh wow, great to hear that the video helped you! Sounds like you got a long way before the seals became a problem for you. On a lot of Merc Diesels it occurs much sooner than that (if it's going to!). Thanks, Phil
Early 3.2 s have been.the same price for the last 5 years , dunno where you get they are rapidly rising from ? I own one and have done for 4 years and still only worth 5 -6 k (same as when I bought it )
Hi, you have made a fair point! Early in 2022, there seemed to be a lot of interest in modern classics and this continued through the summer. My BMW Z4M coupe went up as well. Since then though, prices have checked back somewhat. I appreciate, as a long term owner, you will be more aware of the "long term" price range and that this has been pretty flat. But, good news, you aren't experiencing depreciation, which is car ownerships biggest cost AND you have got a Porsche 😎 Cheers, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide Yes zero depreciation can only be a good thing ! I see cars as things to enjoy and not as Investments. If I were to become wealthy then buy more exotic drivers cars and keep for a while then sometimes you happen to hit the jackpot ( 4.0 gt3 rs ,carrera gt ,maclaren F1 etc ) Let's all be grateful that realistically priced great cars exist for the average Joe.
Dans les versions après 2002, les boucliers avant et arrière ont été aussi restylés, cela lui donne un look, plus agressif et plus sportif, cela contribue à lui donner une ligne toujours contemporaine. J'ai une version S Tiptronic de 2004, ça pousse fort. La boite auto, il faut apprendre à l'utiliser et elle permet aussi de passer en manuel avec les boutons au volant. Cela permet de prendre plaisir sans lâcher son volant.
Hi, yes, you are right, there were some styling changes too that I didn't mention in the video. You make some good points about the tiptronic, I still think the manual cars be me more in demand as future classics, at least in the UK market anway. I need to find someone with a Boxster S tiptronic that I can try out to compare, shame you are based (presumably) in France? Cheers for your comment and contribution to the discussion, it was really interesting! Thanks, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide So yes, manual transmissions are more in demand than Tiptronics. It's different, in Tiptro it's much more difficult to stay high in the towers. If we arrive quickly behind a car that is going slower than us, the gearbox will quickly go down in the revs and go up 1 to 2 gears. On the other hand, if we drive quietly and we press the accelerator frankly, the beast is unleashed and the song of the 3.2L wakes up.I like to switch to automatic mode to warm up the engine quietly then I switch to manual and there we can make the Flat 6 sing :) On the other hand, when I drive more quietly or in a traffic jam, I switch to automatic. We can also go down a gear automatically using the buttons on the steering wheel, however after a few seconds, if our driving has calmed down, we go back to the next gear.
Fair comment but the key thing is that they aren’t depreciating and if anything have started creeping up in value, which is always nice as an owner! ☺️
I have a yellow 2.5. its a great car and quite economical and feel the power is fine i liked the review but not sure where the caymen comments come from as its a review for a boxster . May as well said i prefer a fiesta . You where very polite about it
Hi Peter, Thanks for your comment! I watched the video back and I feel I skipped past the 2.5 too quickly. As you rightly point out, it's still a reasonably light weight, open top sports car with fantastic handling and 200bhp. I certainly wouldn't be complaining if I had one on my driveway! One comment I saw on a forum from a 2.5 owner really stuck with me: "When I'm sat at home, I often think I would prefer the S but when I'm driving my 2.5 car, I never do!" Bet yours looks great in yellow! Cayman: All comments are welcome but as you say, we were talking about a Boxster and you can't drop the top on a Cayman! 😎
Hi, it had the standard exhaust but I may have made it sound more punchy through strategic camera and microphone placement. It wasn't my intention to exaggerate the exhaust note, I was just trying to get the best possible footage! 👍 BTW, I have since been made aware of something called a De-Snorkel, which releases more induction noise from the engine. It's got its own pros and cons but here's a vid if you're interested. th-cam.com/video/nXqg31GdM-E/w-d-xo.html Thanks, Phil
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Always good to hear from an owner, to reassure others! I agree with you that it’s issue has been overstated and I tried not to emphasise it too strongly in the video but it would have been remiss of me not to mention it… thanks, Phil
@jonasbechyne8545 I know right?! Just checked again and obviously winter is a good time to buy a convertible but even so, they are still really cheap! (economic downturn at the moment too). Not sure if this link will work for you but some UK car prices here: www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?sort=relevance&postcode=ls249fz&radius=1500&make=Porsche&model=Boxster&include-delivery-option=on&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0
My understanding is no, they all came with 6 speeds as standard. However, I saw a mention on a forum where someone changed theirs for a 5 speed for track use (gear ratios?). Thanks, Phil
@@mattbuckley392 It does! Thanks! I was unsure whether the 2.7 got the 6 speed, or if it didn't at first but then it was introduced later... Thanks for the contribution 👍
😂 Thanks for your comment! Always interesting to get different views 👍 I think the 987 may be the “better” car because they have ironed out some of the issues but the 986 “may be” the better investment…. Only time will tell! 😎
Thanks for your comment, some very valid points! Cayman is a wonderful looking car and being a tin top, is bound to have a stiffer chassis, which very keen drivers may prefer. However, on a nice day, it’s great to drop the top on a Boxster and hear the engine and see the sun! Yep, Porsche did iron out some of the issues with the 718 no doubt, but the 986 is the original Boxster, only time will tell which models become most desirable as a collector car.
Thanks for the build! Yep, you're right, when the 4 cylinder came out, there was quite a lot of grumbling from the Porsche community. The 4 cylinder cars will still sell well, they're great cars but another reason the 986 will do well as a collectors car is that flat six!
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I am the original owner of a 2002 Porsche Boxster S. I have sorted out all of the major issues RMS and IMS. Including replacing the plastic window and convertible top. Love your commentary.
Keep up the good work. I will hold on to my 21 year old Boxster S. It is indeed a blast to drive on a Fall Sunday morning.
Wow, that’s great that you have owned it from new and still enjoying it as a modern clsssic. I think they are fantastic cars and as you say, with any car, a bit of work required to keep them in tip top condition. Cheers, Phil
A short lived rattle at start up is due to the hydraulic timing chain tensioners needing time to fill with oil and do their job. Lots of 986 and 996s are like that and it doesn't point to IMS issues. Taking the old oil filter apart after a service and looking for metal fragments or checking the amount of cam timing variance using a suitable CAN diagnostics tool are two ways to see if the bearing is starting to fail. Usually it goes all at once without prior warning. As someone else has pointed out its over hyped, though the 2.5 has the benefit of a dual row bearing which is stronger than the later ones.
Thanks for contributing with the additional technical info! I tried my best not to overstate the problem but felt obliged to cover it. All cars have their foibles and often they end up being overstated on forums. Thanks, Phil
Purchased my 2000 Boxster S in 2003. I must agree with all your observations. I did the IMS bearing shortly after purchase and has been awesome. The car is unique in its handling and performance. With 37,000 miles on the clock my garage queen will be with me until I can't handle the clutch anymore. My plan is to leave it to one of my 3 grandsons. I'm sure there will be fight over it. Oh yeah... one other issue was a leaking coolant tank in the rear boot which wound up being a minor cost.
Sounds like you have got a great condition car there and it’s being well looked after! Incredibly low miles too, hope you enjoy putting a few more miles on it, they’re incredible cars 👍
I recently bought a 2004 boxster S 550 spyder 6 speed anniversary model, number 779. Got it for a great price. It's mostly been sitting for the last 8 years or so. But everything still works great, and yes, it really does go 0 to 60 in just over 5 seconds, in 2nd gear! Came with a Boze 9 speaker sound system.
Just looked it up, that looks like a VERY nice car - congrats! 👍😎
Thanks, doing plugs, coils, both oils etc. The motor is dif from most 986s, a bit of 996 in there. @@ReviveMyRide
@@Texasslim57 Sounds like you are looking after it well! Look after your car and it will look after you a the saying goes... 👍
I owned a 2.7 from new and after a 16 year gap have bought a 2004 986 S as the Boxster is hand on heart the best driving car I’ve ever owned. You’ve described it well. Going to the shop or the Cote dAzur - and I’ve done both it’s just perfect for the Stelvio or Sainsbury. You’ve described it well.
The Boxster I had the privilege of driving for the video was wonderful to drive. The suspension on them is next level for comfort and grip. Glad you enjoyed the video, I had a lot of fun making it!
Amazing review! I’m 16 and have grown up around Porsches my whole life, this time next year I plan on owning my very own 986 Boxster S… AKA the gateway drug into Porsches. I’ve been non stop watching and reading reviews on them, specifically the 02-04 ones, and i’ve never been more excited!
Hey, glad you liked the review, especially if you have been watching lots of other ones! 👍 A Boxster seems like a difficult car to insure for a new driver but I hope you find a way given your passion for them! Thanks, Phil
Great review Phil I have owned a late 03 2.7 986 for 9 years only got 56000 on clock great car it’s my road trip car down to Tarifa spain was the best she never missed a beat 😎👍
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! I checked out your road trip video, looks like you had a great time! That's a really nice Boxster and well looked after by the looks of it! Plenty more years of happy motoring ahead of you guys! Cheers, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide cheers Phil hope to get a few more road trips in and document them I am just getting used to editing on the new iMac so hopefully the vlogs will get better has we do more and yes your right the 986 prices do seem to be creeping up and I think they will be a future classic loved your vlog mate keep them coming 😎👍 cheers martin
@martin's Adventures Thanks! Look forward to seeing more of your content too! I will go subscribe to your channel and hopefully see it when it comes in!
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. GREAT VIDEO AND THANKS FOR SHARING!!!
Glad you enjoyed the video! They are great cars to drive, I had a lot of fun with that one 👍 I actually own a BMW Z4m, which is a big rival to the Boxster S, I should do a review on it as a comparison! Cheers, Phil
I have just bought that car in your video !!! PAO3 BFM. Travelled to Skipton last week. Awesome purchase.
Wow really! Small world! When I drove the car, it was owned by a friend of mine who is a car enthusiast and has a list of cars he wants to own / drive. He doesn’t keep them long but he bought from a lady in the Leeds area who found she was just doing an mot and a service and hardly using it every year. It’s a really good example, you’ve got a great car there! Cheers, Phil
got a 1999 2.5.. love it!
@chentequilichini7182 My video was Boxster S focused because that is what I had available to me but they are all great cars! 👍
Dark gray 2001 Boxster S here! Six speed manual, what a car! Don't forget proper tires, because they vastly improve cornering and curve behavior.
Mine is fitted with the Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06, and they are phenomenal... Extremely grippy, wet or dry, and extremely comfortable. It's an all season tire, and actually does well in the snow, so don't expect it to do as well as the Continental summer tire!
By the way, I'm about to buy a set of the Continental summer tire version because of a TH-cam review by Tyre Reviews. I get nothing for recommending it, he just does phenomenal reviews.
Hi Joe, thanks for your comments! Yes, that's a really good point, Boxsters are more sensitive than most to tyre choice and so it is worth doing the research! (which you have clearly done!) Thanks for the recommendations for tyres! Bet your car looks great in the dark grey! thanks, Phil
Awesome review. What a sound from that engine as well!
Thanks! The sound came out much better than expected! Induction noise from the air intake for some of it and then some exhaust noise from a camera mounted near the tail pipes in other clips!
Very sensible, grounded review. Well done .
Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed the video!👍 I loved driving the car!
I absolutely loved my 2000 Boxter S. 3000 rpm in 4th gear sounded like angels humming.
Agree, it’s a lovely sounding engine that just encourages you to go for it again and again! 👍
As an owner of an 03 S I can say you were spot on on everything. Good vid.
Hey, thanks very much! The others are great cars too but I think the S is the pick of bunch and the one that will stretch ahead in terms of values in the future!
Enjoyed your review. Down to earth advice. Thanks.
Thanks very much! 🙂
I bought my first Porsche at the weekend and collect in a week or so. You video was useful and built on my recent research into the car and what to look for. Mine is identical to the model you demonstrated Boxster S in silver with the blue roof etc. Cheers! Joe
Congrats Joe, sounds like you have bought a really nice car! 👌 Glad you liked the video and found it useful 👍😀 Thanks, Phil
Great content, I am looking to buy a Boxster and I am split between to 986S and 987S, both have there positive and negative points, the 987 models being newer are obviously more expensive, Decisions decisions.
I have some friends that are car gurus and put your dilemma to them, they have the following comments: "Build quality, especially interior fit and finish is better with the newer ones", "Like the later one - interior nicer too", " I'm kind of liking the retro'ness of the 986 headlights these days", "the engine size increased on the later 987 from 3.2 to 3.4 with Power moving from 254 to 291.", " I love the Lobster wheels of the 987 generation" MY COMMENT: Both great cars, power I don't think is a big deal as the car is all about balance and poise, 986 may become sought after as the 1st gen of the Boxster, 987 will likely have more of the mechanical "bugs" resolved and a better screwed together does feel tempting! Hope this helps some! Glad you liked the vid and thanks for your comment 👍😎 Cheers, Phil
Liked review. Mine is an S. 41,000 miles. Great Car. Look at Mathewsons Auction today ,tomorrow. They have a yellow S. 32000 miles!!! Interesting to see what it goes for. Ciao. Paul
Hi Paul, went for £16k! I think they are definitely going up in price! www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-297---2000-porsche-boxster-s/?lot=3574&so=0&st=boxster&sto=0&au=4&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=1&pp=48&pn=1&g=1
This is the car my grandpa drove when he was a attorney. Amazing car good memories now I want one with red seat
It’s amazing how often a car can be found in fond memories. My grandpa had an Old Ford Mustang and it does take me back to good times when I see one. You should definitely consider getting a Boxster, I’m sure you’ll have a real connection to the car 👍 cheers, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide what is a the price going for usually? Do you know a reliable source for price check. I talked to him about it, he told me he misses that car, I told him the red seats and carpet and the handle. Honestly the car is very beautiful, my uncle also had the bmw m3 e46 from 2003. Something about the Porsche.
@@Jasongy827 hi, I haven’t checked prices for a while but I tend to use “for sale prices” as a guide, so looking at what they are going for on EBay Motors or Autotrader but also bearing in mind that is what they are listed for, not what they are selling for! Cheers, Phil
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I just bought one today, well really, started the buying process last week, but today I picked it up and drove the long way home with the top down. My new sweetheart is a 2004 Porsche Boxster S, 6 speed manual trans, 87K miles on the odometer, It's a midnight blue exterior, medium gray and black interior. I keep going outside just to look at it. :) Gave 13K USD for it. :) This is my first Porsche, but I fell in love with the 1985 Porsche 928 Si while stationed in Germany in the mid 80's.
The spec on your new Porsche is really nice great colour combination and that sounds like a good price too 👍 My Dad was stationed in Germany late 70’s, he came back with a VW Beetle! 😂
@@ReviveMyRide LOL :)
Bought my first 986 tiptronic base 1998 model in Hawaii 2018 for just $5K. It had 172000 miles on it with no ims history completed. In 3 1/2 yrs I put 5000 miles on it.
I sold it in Dec ‘21 when Covid and a health issue forced me out of the islands. Now 6 months later in Idaho, I’m in a ‘02 Boxster S sporting guards red & which I paid $11k. It has 119000 miles, with ims and clutch done. Some of the things I have to do is change a wheel bearing, upgrade from the broken Porsche radio (do I go LED?) & purchase missing wind deflectors.
There hasn’t been a huge uptick in Boxster prices in the USA but I believe one is coming.
Wow, you've had a quite a journey with your 986's so far! Your new car sounds like a good one that has been well sorted and looked after! You got yours for a good price and they are still similarly priced here in the UK but I think and uptick in prices is coming soon! Sorry, no ideas about the radio... but there is a good thread on a Porsche Forum here where they are bouncing ideas around that may help you! 986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/81414-radio-recommendations-986-a.html
2002 986 S- great review. I absolutely love this car! Prices in the US are almost double. You won’t find an S in decent shape with low miles for under 10,000. Potentially the standard boxster but again, they are typically high mileage with some issues.
Thanks for the price info, will be interesting to see what happens to 986 prices! I think at the moment, owners won't lose money in depreciation and in the long term, the cars will go up in value, which makes them a great investment as well as a great car to own!
Just got a 2.7 2003 986 love it
Fantastic, they're great cars! It should appreciate in value from here onwards too! 👍
I own a 2.7 tip and I love it suits my style of mixed driving I had a m3 before this though the boxes per not as fast makes up with the handling its amazing car
Agree, the Boxster seems to have the perfect blend of power and handling. Power delivery really suits the characteristics of the car. I actually think it has the best suspension I have come across for absorbing bumps in the road and also delivering a great sporty feel! 👍
You should not talk BS. 2.5 engines are less (not more) likely to develop bore-scoring than the larger 3.2 in the S. For obvious reasons: same engine (!) with smaller cylinders.
In addition, the IMS in 2.5 is dual row bearing, versus single row in most later engines. Single row has higher chance of failure.
No way, I literally just drove down that road and now I’m home I turn on this video haha
@joek1319 wow! really? It’s quite an obscure little road, here in Yorkshire. I’m not sure I could find it again myself! 😁
@@ReviveMyRide good road, I live in the village next to it. About to drive on it again to get to school
@@joek1319 Cool! Wish that road was my daily commute! Some fun to be had there. 👍
I own a 2004 Boxster S. it’s an absolute dream to drive. Even my mate that has a second generation GT3 loves driving my car. To all those snobs that say it’s not a proper Porsche, I say bollocks. The car that saved them from being bought out. Good vid.👍👍
Thanks, glad you liked the vid! 😎 That's such a good point, the brilliant Boxster did save Porsche! Honestly, they are awesome to drive and yes, most "not a real Porsche" comments are either snobbery or jealousy but more fool them! You don't hear it so much anymore because the Boxster has proved itself I think...
Great review. I just came across with one of my acquaintances who recommended this car. He is a Porsche fan and has a 997.. :)
This car doubled in price at least here in Europe. I am planning to buy it this summer. The 2003-4 one with a facelift as you recommended. 2.7 motor.
Thanks again. I will keep you updated with the process!
Have a good one. Cheers.
Thanks for your comment, glad you liked the video! Wow, that will be an amazing car for you and you can own it setting aside money for maintenance / servicing but also knowing it will be depreciation free (which as most know, is actually the biggest motoring cost of all!). Be great to hear an update once you have got one and what you think to it! Thanks, Phil
Excellent video
Thanks! 😊
Great review of the Porsche Boxster S 986 3.2 just bought one and can’t wait to get behind the wheel. Any other tips regarding this model would be appreciated. Cheers 🍻Brian
Congrats, they’re a wonderful car, you’ll love it! The intermediate shaft and rear main oil seals are the main things to look for but there has been some hysteria about it and so the occurrence rate has been over emphasised in my opinion. Even so, get to know your car and the symptoms for these two issues and keep an eye out. Oil leaks on a Boxster engine should always be investigated as could be a sign of these issues. Also, a rattle on start up or when going onto the throttle. Only other thing is, to use it! They are really well engineered cars but all mechanical devices work better if used regularly. Cheers, Phil
Hi liked the review. I have 2002 Boxter S 41,000 miles…. I love it , but it’s a toy not a regular drive .IMS bearing is changed by Porsche specialist, It’s true that they are coming a classic car. Look out for Mathewsons auction today and tomorrow. They have a yellow one (Boxter S) mint, only 32,000 Miles.!!! It will be interesting to see what it goes for. Cheers for now. Paul .
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Hi, Thanks for the heads up, I'll check out the auction, could be interesting! Glad you liked the vid! 👍
Beautiful thank you 🚗
Glad you liked the video! My first car review and I really enjoyed it! Really genuinely liked the car too! 👍
@@ReviveMyRide Also, your black death video saved my 2007 ML 320 CDI from certain death at just less than 300K miles.
@@patrickgr1547 Oh wow, great to hear that the video helped you! Sounds like you got a long way before the seals became a problem for you. On a lot of Merc Diesels it occurs much sooner than that (if it's going to!). Thanks, Phil
Excellent review! So, do you want to buy it? 😂
Loved the car, no extra spaces on the drive right or in the garage right now 😟
Early 3.2 s have been.the same price for the last 5 years , dunno where you get they are rapidly rising from ? I own one and have done for 4 years and still only worth 5 -6 k (same as when I bought it )
Hi, you have made a fair point! Early in 2022, there seemed to be a lot of interest in modern classics and this continued through the summer. My BMW Z4M coupe went up as well. Since then though, prices have checked back somewhat. I appreciate, as a long term owner, you will be more aware of the "long term" price range and that this has been pretty flat. But, good news, you aren't experiencing depreciation, which is car ownerships biggest cost AND you have got a Porsche 😎 Cheers, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide Yes zero depreciation can only be a good thing ! I see cars as things to enjoy and not as Investments.
If I were to become wealthy then buy more exotic drivers cars and keep for a while then sometimes you happen to hit the jackpot ( 4.0 gt3 rs ,carrera gt ,maclaren F1 etc )
Let's all be grateful that realistically priced great cars exist for the average Joe.
Dans les versions après 2002, les boucliers avant et arrière ont été aussi restylés, cela lui donne un look, plus agressif et plus sportif, cela contribue à lui donner une ligne toujours contemporaine. J'ai une version S Tiptronic de 2004, ça pousse fort. La boite auto, il faut apprendre à l'utiliser et elle permet aussi de passer en manuel avec les boutons au volant. Cela permet de prendre plaisir sans lâcher son volant.
Hi, yes, you are right, there were some styling changes too that I didn't mention in the video. You make some good points about the tiptronic, I still think the manual cars be me more in demand as future classics, at least in the UK market anway. I need to find someone with a Boxster S tiptronic that I can try out to compare, shame you are based (presumably) in France? Cheers for your comment and contribution to the discussion, it was really interesting! Thanks, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide So yes, manual transmissions are more in demand than Tiptronics. It's different, in Tiptro it's much more difficult to stay high in the towers. If we arrive quickly behind a car that is going slower than us, the gearbox will quickly go down in the revs and go up 1 to 2 gears. On the other hand, if we drive quietly and we press the accelerator frankly, the beast is unleashed and the song of the 3.2L wakes up.I like to switch to automatic mode to warm up the engine quietly then I switch to manual and there we can make the Flat 6 sing :) On the other hand, when I drive more quietly or in a traffic jam, I switch to automatic. We can also go down a gear automatically using the buttons on the steering wheel, however after a few seconds, if our driving has calmed down, we go back to the next gear.
You’re dreaming if you think this car is collectible. And yes, I own one. There are way too many available to be rare or collectible
Fair comment but the key thing is that they aren’t depreciating and if anything have started creeping up in value, which is always nice as an owner! ☺️
I have a yellow 2.5. its a great car and quite economical and feel the power is fine i liked the review but not sure where the caymen comments come from as its a review for a boxster . May as well said i prefer a fiesta . You where very polite about it
Hi Peter, Thanks for your comment! I watched the video back and I feel I skipped past the 2.5 too quickly. As you rightly point out, it's still a reasonably light weight, open top sports car with fantastic handling and 200bhp. I certainly wouldn't be complaining if I had one on my driveway! One comment I saw on a forum from a 2.5 owner really stuck with me: "When I'm sat at home, I often think I would prefer the S but when I'm driving my 2.5 car, I never do!" Bet yours looks great in yellow! Cayman: All comments are welcome but as you say, we were talking about a Boxster and you can't drop the top on a Cayman! 😎
Do you know what exhaust system this car has?
Hi, it had the standard exhaust but I may have made it sound more punchy through strategic camera and microphone placement. It wasn't my intention to exaggerate the exhaust note, I was just trying to get the best possible footage! 👍 BTW, I have since been made aware of something called a De-Snorkel, which releases more induction noise from the engine. It's got its own pros and cons but here's a vid if you're interested. th-cam.com/video/nXqg31GdM-E/w-d-xo.html Thanks, Phil
Well this one car I would not buy with that reg
I have a 986. IMSB is overhyped. There are more real maintenance issues to contend with.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Always good to hear from an owner, to reassure others! I agree with you that it’s issue has been overstated and I tried not to emphasise it too strongly in the video but it would have been remiss of me not to mention it… thanks, Phil
can not believe they are sold that cheap in UK.... here in europe they START at 15K
@jonasbechyne8545 I know right?! Just checked again and obviously winter is a good time to buy a convertible but even so, they are still really cheap! (economic downturn at the moment too). Not sure if this link will work for you but some UK car prices here: www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?sort=relevance&postcode=ls249fz&radius=1500&make=Porsche&model=Boxster&include-delivery-option=on&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0
I’ve seen a 986 S, however it only has 5 gears. Is this possible ?
My understanding is no, they all came with 6 speeds as standard. However, I saw a mention on a forum where someone changed theirs for a 5 speed for track use (gear ratios?). Thanks, Phil
The 2.5 and 2.7 variants have a 5 speed box as standard .... the 3.2 986 S has the 6 speed. Hope this helps
Turns out it was a 2.7 badged as an S !
@@mattbuckley392 It does! Thanks! I was unsure whether the 2.7 got the 6 speed, or if it didn't at first but then it was introduced later... Thanks for the contribution 👍
@@nathanguest6964 Makes sense now, thanks for the update!
Nope 987 S
😂 Thanks for your comment! Always interesting to get different views 👍 I think the 987 may be the “better” car because they have ironed out some of the issues but the 986 “may be” the better investment…. Only time will tell! 😎
@@ReviveMyRide They knew about the IMS , solved by 2008
Cayman looks much better. 718 is a much better car and no IMS, bore scoring or liner crack issues.
Thanks for your comment, some very valid points! Cayman is a wonderful looking car and being a tin top, is bound to have a stiffer chassis, which very keen drivers may prefer. However, on a nice day, it’s great to drop the top on a Boxster and hear the engine and see the sun! Yep, Porsche did iron out some of the issues with the 718 no doubt, but the 986 is the original Boxster, only time will tell which models become most desirable as a collector car.
4 cylinder though 😬
Thanks for the build! Yep, you're right, when the 4 cylinder came out, there was quite a lot of grumbling from the Porsche community. The 4 cylinder cars will still sell well, they're great cars but another reason the 986 will do well as a collectors car is that flat six!