Thank you for showing us more of the artifacts you have recovered. I look forward to seeing and hearing more about your planned museum... The mines around Phoenix continue to amaze me. I just can't believe how much is there!
I've been rewatching the videos from the beginning (because they are timeless, of course). It's pretty awesome that you always wanted to start a museum and now you've got one!
@@exploringabandonedmines I'm happy for you Frank, God knows you've put in the work! One of these days I'll be coming North to see Your museum in person.
You guys make wonderful videos. Watching them all over the last week. Nearly as cold in that water as it is in Sherbrooke, Quebec right now! (-20 C) If you ever get out here, try the Thedford mines. Great series of tunnels. All my best wishes and Merry Christmas, Stuart Subscribed for life.
You can tell how steep it is by how much material is on the floor. At steep angles over about 60 degrees everything slides down. Less than that you see loose material.
Noce job frank, awesome video and nice work, is that the last we will se of the ice palace because it would be cool to see that thing keep melting . Also amazing job on restoring that old air powered tram. It would be cool to see it run and pool some cars. Once again I love the content and nice job.
No we will be keeping an eye on it. The ice palace is part of a huge complex of mines near the ghost town of Phoenix that continues to amaze us. Lots of places that were frozen off that are starting to melt and there are plenty of places that could be dug out possibly leading to more amazing discoveries!
If you can find it there is a fully operational mucker left to rot out at the Cronin mine in the Babine mountains near smithers BC, as well as several denver air powered drills in good shape. I would go out and get them but dont live in the area any more.
It is surprising how much abandoned stuff there is in the back country. It is pretty old school stuff while it was built to last mining technology has evolved making it obsolete.
Starting right @4:21 showing that air powered locomotive, very nice machine never seen that before. What I would like to share is when you later mentioned having sand blasted it, are you aware of wet blasting? I recently discovered the process. It's simply an attachment to the wand of a pressure washer, where the tip is replaced with a special nozzle and a syphon tube on the side, a hose attached which siphons blasting media from a container. The media is syphoned by the high pressure of the washer thus blasting media on the work needing cleaned. I tried it first time yesterday with dried fine sifted sand and it works well.. Having said all this I realize you may already be aware of this technique. If you haven't heard then get back and I'll provide more details. Keep up the fine videos
That's ok Frank, I thought you would have a decent blaster, I was just suggesting, because even for my small blasting set up with air, it takes more sir than I have compressor. The pressure washer does a nice job, but you're right about flash rust starting. I've done different things to prevent rust depending on what has been blasted. Just my thoughts. Regards BTW The Anyox series videos are great, my favorites.
The locomotive is an EIMCO Type 401. They were built up to the 1970's I have owned two of them 401-216/1968 which is now at Lea Bailey Mine Railway in the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England. If you look on TH-cam Lea Bailey 'Whistling Pig' you will see it action. I sold it last year but then I was offered a another one 401-108/196? It has just arrived in the UK. I also had a Universal Tramaire built by the Universal Dredge Manafacturing Corporation, Denver. Works number 379/1958 It is now fully restored in Graz. Austria
Another great video frank! You're doing a great job on your pneumatic locomotive. Do you have plans to lay some track down and display it in functioning condition? I'd love to take the drive and come down to see it. Merry Christmas Frank and I hope to see much more in the new year
I am planning on building a tipple complete with a railroad and an ore chute so I can use the locomotive to haul a load of ore to the top and dump it into an ore chute and then load it back up at the bottom.
We had one that we us on 1600 level all the material wood come down on that level to go to the next shaft it was 1 mile in and down to 29 level and go for a one mile again and go down to 37 level this was a small cage . We us the air mother to move material around .
I can film it when I get the air tank and controls set up. I am rebuilding a ore car from the 1800s. I will have a short clip of it on next weeks show and should have it all finished in a week or so.
Interesting question and the answer isn't as simple as you would think. Sometimes materials were assayed to determine if it was worth sending to the mill other times a geologist would make that call. Average grade of mined copper up at Phoenix was 1% of the material sent to the smelter so there would have been a lot of material that was much less than that and not worth sending to the smelter.
Seems absolutely inefficient, but from your reply there really wasn't any other way. To be honest, the 1% as a cut off floors me. But having worked at iron ore mines in Minnesota, the employees always said the tailings from the the early days of the mines contain more iron than what is being excavated. I have no idea if this is true or not, but that puts it into the plausible column. Thanks for the videos!
Only diesel engines at the moment, Dome Mine in Timmins had one, air loci, when I worked there it was used for pulling material off of the cage on the 1600, main level in the early '70s. Its on display in Timmins. The drill is not a jackleg, it's a Liner drill, bar and arm, my spelling may be wrong, but I'm positive that it's not a jack leg. A jackleg is 100% compressed air powered, including the removable leg.
Thinking about things. I am slowly working on a history of compressed air locomotives from the earliest attempts in the 1820's-1830's up to the the most recent developments (The last mining locomotives being built by KONSTAL at Chorzow near Katowice in Upper Silesia, Poland. Who built nine Lpd45 machines between 1988 & 1992). Do you know what the works number of the EIMCO is? (It will be '401-×××') The works plate being welded to the air reservoir (I presume that you have the air tank?) Anyway if you require any photos etc don't hesitate to contact me.
@@exploringabandonedmines Did you find this loco on ebay? As I spoke to a man who was selling one (from memory he was in Illinois) without an air tank.
Hi sorry to be the bother guy again tonight - if the shot blast material is copper slag be careful it is carcinogenic - now banned in Australia - works great - sharp profile but deadly to slack operator and general area _ ( sorry I am a pain but also an industrial inspector - careful with copper slag blasting media -)
Thats about the going price , shipping is really the tough part on this , and some of the stuff from Canada gets taxed kinda bad too. Maybe I better check with some mines around here. I knew a number of miners . I am in Idaho, , I better check locally . Thanks for the prompt response , Watch yourself in those mankillers you are crawling around in . Best regards ........... Boise , Idaho.
Thank you for showing us more of the artifacts you have recovered. I look forward to seeing and hearing more about your planned museum... The mines around Phoenix continue to amaze me. I just can't believe how much is there!
I am busy restoring a wooden ore cart from the late 1800s watch for it next week!
I'm glad to see you restore some of the old tools and equipment. I'm a mechanic and love old tools. I respect what you do
Thanks Howard!
Great exploring! Some nice boxes down there, nice to see them in good condition rather than rotted out.
I see lots of them in pieces totally rotted. Things don't keep well in wet/damp locations.
Frank, I need to get out of Florida and come up and do some exploring with you. Love the videos, keep posting and please stay safe
I've been rewatching the videos from the beginning (because they are timeless, of course). It's pretty awesome that you always wanted to start a museum and now you've got one!
Buying a mine and opening it up as a museum has been a dream of mine for a long time. It is exciting to see that happening!
@@exploringabandonedmines I'm happy for you Frank, God knows you've put in the work! One of these days I'll be coming North to see Your museum in person.
That intro makes me rock hard every time!!
Most people like it.......some bitch. Can't make everyone happy!
Hi Frank I am a big fan, could you tell me the name of your intro track I really love it but I can't find it anywhere :( x
Sorry can't help you I don't know what it is called or who the artist is
thanks for sharing frank and crew, much appreciated
You are welcome glad you enjoyed it!
Thumbs up for the cool intro song.
There's a abandoned Eimco mucker that is still in great shape here in Shasta County, California
You guys make wonderful videos. Watching them all over the last week. Nearly as cold in that water as it is in Sherbrooke, Quebec right now! (-20 C) If you ever get out here, try the Thedford mines. Great series of tunnels. All my best wishes and Merry Christmas, Stuart Subscribed for life.
A lifer! Great to hear, have a drink for me over the holidays!
They went through it all.
That's an electrical / telephone lineman's wrench @3:19
keep up the good work frank
Thanks Mike!
woot woot and yet a nether great video that KS again
Great video again! Thanks and Keep safe :)
Thanks I will do my best!
amazing gentlemen well done
A museum sounds amazing!
thanks Frank
you should carry a plumb bob with you, to show us how steep some inclines are, its hard to tell what is what sometimes!
You can tell how steep it is by how much material is on the floor. At steep angles over about 60 degrees everything slides down. Less than that you see loose material.
Frank the intro just keeps getting better! love it man!! great videos!!!! give max a treat for me!
Thanks I appreciate your support!
Noce job frank, awesome video and nice work, is that the last we will se of the ice palace because it would be cool to see that thing keep melting . Also amazing job on restoring that old air powered tram. It would be cool to see it run and pool some cars. Once again I love the content and nice job.
No we will be keeping an eye on it. The ice palace is part of a huge complex of mines near the ghost town of Phoenix that continues to amaze us. Lots of places that were frozen off that are starting to melt and there are plenty of places that could be dug out possibly leading to more amazing discoveries!
Exploring Abandoned Mines In BC nice it would be cool to see more follow ups and see more of the ice palace, once again nice videos.
If you can find it there is a fully operational mucker left to rot out at the Cronin mine in the Babine mountains near smithers BC, as well as several denver air powered drills in good shape. I would go out and get them but dont live in the area any more.
It is surprising how much abandoned stuff there is in the back country. It is pretty old school stuff while it was built to last mining technology has evolved making it obsolete.
Starting right @4:21 showing that air powered locomotive, very nice machine never seen that before. What I would like to share is when you later mentioned having sand blasted it, are you aware of wet blasting? I recently discovered the process. It's simply an attachment to the wand of a pressure washer, where the tip is replaced with a special nozzle and a syphon tube on the side, a hose attached which siphons blasting media from a container. The media is syphoned by the high pressure of the washer thus blasting media on the work needing cleaned. I tried it first time yesterday with dried fine sifted sand and it works well.. Having said all this I realize you may already be aware of this technique. If you haven't heard then get back and I'll provide more details. Keep up the fine videos
The problem with that is then the work is wet and it would start to form rust again. I already have the sandblaster and it works well.
That's ok Frank, I thought you would have a decent blaster, I was just suggesting, because even for my small blasting set up with air, it takes more sir than I have compressor. The pressure washer does a nice job, but you're right about flash rust starting. I've done different things to prevent rust depending on what has been blasted. Just my thoughts. Regards BTW The Anyox series videos are great, my favorites.
The locomotive is an EIMCO Type 401. They were built up to the 1970's I have owned two of them 401-216/1968 which is now at Lea Bailey Mine Railway in the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England. If you look on TH-cam Lea Bailey 'Whistling Pig' you will see it action.
I sold it last year but then I was offered a another one 401-108/196? It has just arrived in the UK. I also had a Universal Tramaire built by the Universal Dredge Manafacturing Corporation, Denver. Works number 379/1958 It is now fully restored in Graz. Austria
That rail style jackleg says "Inco Metal" on it. I worked for Inco and now it's Vale.
Hey Frank, right at 9:16 some kind of critter shot across the water away from you. Did you see that?
Another great video frank! You're doing a great job on your pneumatic locomotive. Do you have plans to lay some track down and display it in functioning condition? I'd love to take the drive and come down to see it. Merry Christmas Frank and I hope to see much more in the new year
I am planning on building a tipple complete with a railroad and an ore chute so I can use the locomotive to haul a load of ore to the top and dump it into an ore chute and then load it back up at the bottom.
Exploring Abandoned Mines In BC Wow that's way more impressive! You are a brilliant man! I can't wait until we get to see that
Thanks Frank. Do you ever gather some tailing and check for gold?
No I am not a miner .....more interested in mining history.
We had one that we us on 1600 level all the material wood come down on that level to go to the next shaft it was 1 mile in and down to 29 level and go for a one mile again and go down to 37 level this was a small cage . We us the air mother to move material around .
will you ever get that locomotive running?
It works fine I pulled the engine apart and replaced a bearing it just needs a new drive chain and an air tank.
cool!
will we get any more videos of it?
I can film it when I get the air tank and controls set up. I am rebuilding a ore car from the 1800s. I will have a short clip of it on next weeks show and should have it all finished in a week or so.
sounds great!
looking forward to it!
How did they note the difference on the ore carts between burden/waste and metal bearing ore?
Interesting question and the answer isn't as simple as you would think. Sometimes materials were assayed to determine if it was worth sending to the mill other times a geologist would make that call. Average grade of mined copper up at Phoenix was 1% of the material sent to the smelter so there would have been a lot of material that was much less than that and not worth sending to the smelter.
Seems absolutely inefficient, but from your reply there really wasn't any other way. To be honest, the 1% as a cut off floors me. But having worked at iron ore mines in Minnesota, the employees always said the tailings from the the early days of the mines contain more iron than what is being excavated. I have no idea if this is true or not, but that puts it into the plausible column. Thanks for the videos!
Lots of old mine tailings had quite a bit of gold in them. Some companies make good money milling old tailings.
SPFDRum we visited a hold mine in California that a company bought all the tailings from 100years back and made good money from them
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Only diesel engines at the moment, Dome Mine in Timmins had one, air loci, when I worked there it was used for pulling material off of the cage on the 1600, main level in the early '70s. Its on display in Timmins. The drill is not a jackleg, it's a Liner drill, bar and arm, my spelling may be wrong, but I'm positive that it's not a jack leg. A jackleg is 100% compressed air powered, including the removable leg.
Where did you find the locomotive?
Frank you should have a mine yourself and I bet you can get a thousand people to help you mine it for free just for the adventure
whats the name of the company that recycling the slag piles ?
Pacific abrasives Ltd. They make sandblasting material out of it and have been for 30 years.
Frank,Do you take your Volunteer Explorers up in the Plane ?
Friends you mean? Yes sometimes.
Thinking about things. I am slowly working on a history of compressed air locomotives from the earliest attempts in the 1820's-1830's up to the the most recent developments (The last mining locomotives being built by KONSTAL at Chorzow near Katowice in Upper Silesia, Poland.
Who built nine Lpd45 machines between 1988 & 1992).
Do you know what the works number of the EIMCO is? (It will be '401-×××')
The works plate being welded to the air reservoir (I presume that you have the air tank?) Anyway if you require any photos etc don't hesitate to contact me.
No I don't have the air reservoir.
@@exploringabandonedmines Did you find this loco on ebay? As I spoke to a man who was selling one (from memory he was in Illinois) without an air tank.
do you know there is another youtuber whos name is frank and his channel name is exploring abandoned mines i find that funny
yeah lol i've seen him comment on that guy's vids
Isak Ahlback my twin down south
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Hi sorry to be the bother guy again tonight - if the shot blast material is copper slag be careful it is carcinogenic - now banned in Australia - works great - sharp profile but deadly to slack operator and general area _ ( sorry I am a pain but also an industrial inspector - careful with copper slag blasting media -)
I'm an artist if you ever need anything for the museum I'd be happy to help out!
How about a big mural and a sign on the front of the building?
Wonder how much a empty wooden dynamite box would cost ??One that looks decent ?I would set it in my man cave...................
I have sold a few for $50
Thats about the going price , shipping is really the tough part on this , and some of the stuff from Canada gets taxed kinda bad too. Maybe I better check with some mines around here. I knew a number of miners . I am in Idaho, , I better check locally . Thanks for the prompt response , Watch yourself in those mankillers you are crawling around in . Best regards ........... Boise , Idaho.
Keep checking on ebay I have seen them there.