Tech Inspection L15B7
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.พ. 2017
- The New L15B7 Turbo from Honda: We take a close look a the L15B7 that comes in the new Civic EX Turbo.
By Brian Gillespie
We got our hands on a turbo 1.5 liter from a 2017 Civic and it's radically different from Honda's engines of the past. It's compact, powerful and can out perform the last generation's K24 powered Civic Si. Imagine if you put that engine in a car that's lighter than the corpulent 2016 Civic.
It's chock full of high tech goodness too. Honda tuners are already getting horse power numbers of 230+ using Hondata and KTuner modified computers. What will be possible when the new Si L15B7 comes with a starting point of 200HP?
Honda has already sold over 100,000 of the new turbo Civics and guess what? They're already stacking up in salvage yards around the US. With numbers like that, it's only a matter of time before the price on used engines drops low enough to make them a viable swap choice. Right now, engines with just a few thousand mile can be had for under $1500.
We're not wasting any time. We're going to try this engine on for size in everything we can get our hands on. And as soon as we figure out what car it's going to go in, you will be the first to know.
Here's what we discovered when taking a closer look at the little bundle of Honda hotness...
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so happy to see an OG in the game enthusiastic and premoting inovation instead of bitching and moaning like most the honda fan boys who don't wannna leave the K's behind.
i can only imagine what they would have done back in 01 when folks started tinkering with the Ks and everyone thought it would never be able to stand up against the B series. eager to see wha
t comes of this for good or bad.
I agree with this, but the K series is far from dead. The new CTR is powered by a K20C
MikeyMike_CD7 yeah i know the new motors are Ks also. and they're fantastic. just folks arnt ready for change/progress
ANDRE BRODIE That is bc this turbo mini motor barely makes what a NA K does. When everyone is going big 4 banger like Subaru with the 2.5 and Mazda with the 2.3 turbo...Honda does this??? IMO and many other people who see reality...see this as a step backwards vs "innovation". Honda should have just made a newer turbo K instead of this crap
Honda has their big power 4cyl in the type r. this is their base motor that they want to hypermile. its reasonable and with proper bolt ons which is what honda is best known for. it's gonna be a bulk (d series esq motor that's in alot of hondas. these are good things. if you want set on kill go get the type r.
This isn't a fair statement as the Type R won't be mass produced, it will be limited availability. They need a detuned k20c for the masses imo.
new L family honda motors will b killing the game from now on!
imma miss the k vs b rivalry.
Now it’s gonna be new gen K’s vs L’s
who cares if its ugly? lmao this is a great page, I have very limited knowledge on the new honda engines and always curious to learn new innovations that honda is doing. keep up the great content.
slammedEGhatch Lots of people care. Car enthusiasts like clean and pretty engine bays. this thing is an eyesore and will never have the simple elegance of the older engines. Doesn't mean it's a bad engine though. I just hope all the plastic stuff holds up over time.
"slammedEGhatch Lots of people care. Car enthusiasts like clean and pretty engine bays. this thing is an eyesore and will never have the simple elegance of the older engines. " Superficial "car enthusiasts" called ricer. Lot's of car enthusiasts don't give a shit, deal with it.
slammedEGhatch Agreed!
slammedEGhatch what the fuck is so great about an engine with plastic parts all over it?
knifemind
The Mark V Supras have a plastic air to water charge cooler. I’m pretty sure manufacturers today have their polymer technology pretty well figured out for stuff like this.
Thanks for doing a video like this! Would like to see more!
the most professional video I've seen from you guys. great info and great work
Thanks for videos great info for guys like me wish it would fit in my my 97 civic cool to see turbo honda motors from factory.
You share so much info!! I hope you continue to share info brian!
Thank you! Always wondered if the 1.5 turbo can be installed on the Fit. Really enjoyed the practical in depth insights on this new engine.
Very informative, thank you. Would love a setup like this in my Honda City GM6.
Just watched a Speed Academy video with this bloke. I commented saying I could listen to him all day, well, I just found this video =)
Awesome video. Im glad you are ok!
Not sure how electronics will work for a swap but something for the GE8 would be awesome! With the way these motors are responding to aftermarket parts, would be perfect in a FIT.
I have just got this engine in my Crv - really appreciate the info
Great video absolutely informative and kinda entertaining.
Looks like it would fit nicely in a Ek.
looking forward to seeing what potential this little motor has
All things considered, it’s shown itself to be a tough little motor. With MAPerformance running tons of 500whp drag passes on a stock bottom end
love all your videos. they are very useful!!!!
That catalytic convertor is freaking HUGE!
The engine became available for both the sedan and coupe for the same 2016 model year. The sedan was available for purchase a few months before the coupe though.
Thanks for this. I like to know what i’m getting before i buy it!
Great video. Thanks
wear were u back in the days when I had my 89 hatchback I use to street race Iam 43 now seeing your videos has woke up a desire to build another one 😀
RamVan Bobby ahaha! Do it!
Dude you're never too old for the hobby
I'm 44 and I have my 91 si in the garage still.
would love to see a kit for this to go into the first gen CR-V's but the awd 5spd manual crv. and also keep the awd setup
Thank you for making videos like this, it's nice to know there are innovators out there. I love Hasport!
Although these motors cannot be swapped into eg/ek/dc, maybe the turbo system will be a good swap over for d-series guys; since the turbo system is designed for a smaller displacement engine already.
I'm imagining a rod and piston, coil on plug d16z6 eg with one of these turbo system, retaining ac/and power steering. Quick spool, w/ low hp, high torque -- wll make for a great dd and clean sleeperish underhood setup.
i'm sure in a few year hasport will have mounts to make swapping this into the older civics a reality. Otherwise, us with welders will make mounts ourself until then.
We now have mounts to swap these engines into the EG, EK and DC2
REALLY love the video, I just went to look at a Civic Si and saw the new motor, didn't know much about the engine but only knew that it comes with turbo and it's non VTEC. This video explains a lot since I will be getting under the hood of the car, thanks a lot!
Hello Brian: i have simple question , does it helps to install a oil catch can on this 1.5 turbo engine ?
Would love to throw one of these in my 94 DX Hatch.
Hasport - What does it take to fully swap this into a 1/2 gen Fit? I heard you were attempting it or at least looking into it. Build video?? Thanks again for what you do for the Honda scene.
Great vid! What does it measure from front of pulley to rear of gearbox? Hoping this could fit in an Acty
You have to best and most informative video.
Very good job man👍👍👍👍
So much knowledge!!!
Good info, this is good for the fit guys. Those Honda Fits are gutless. If I wanted something high output and compact for an older series, a built booted d series would do just fine. For more room to grow the b series.
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This engine looks very similar to the 1.6t used in the Sentra sr turbo I have I guess smaller engines with turbos and direct injection are becoming very popular
I've been watching your recent Videos of the k20c1 trying to test fit them into different chassis, try this into the CRZ/GE8 chassis
Thank you very much for the video. Now please try to fit it in FIT. And a crx.
Dropping science like a goon !!! I enjoyed this !!! Keep making vids
Just found your channel I guess better late than never
Love these damn videos and this channel
I'd really like to see the si in a fit that would be awesome
Do you think using a base map from KTuner or Hondata with no other changes on CVT model will significantly decrease long-term reliability?
Lots of great info in this video. Have you guys had a chance to weigh this setup? How does it compare to the K20/K24 setups out there?
Not yet. I need to do that.
Do you think it will fit in the CRZ? the mount points look similar, and theyre both 1.5L L-series
do you think it would fit in the 7th gens? I have a '01 sedan that's past 200k so I'm looking at possible engine swaps.
Sounds like a bolt on turbo might require a lot of changes, but a mild tune and the lighter flywheel might make a noticeable difference. Especially in a Fit!
Bolt on turbo is dead easy
Good videos
Brian Gillespie = honda god. Most honda motor swap guys owe their gratitude to Brian
Can you please please do a video like this but on Thr 2 L naturally aspirated civic ? I have looked all over and cannot find a comprehensive review of the 2 L naturally aspirated civic engine ..
By the way great job on this video and thank you for doing such !!
Thank you for some good info. I just bought a 2019 civic si. It makes 205hp.
hopesfallxx2m hope you’re liking it. Already ktuned mine at 1,000 miles and looking to do cobra CAI and PRL intercooler
Managed to get my Sport Touring Hatch to around 230hp and it feels like a completely different car now.
cr4zym3x1c4n
I just ordered a 2020 Si. Any updates on yours or general suggestions?
Michael Marks
Did retuning get rid of the rev-hang when shifting?
mmwosu I recommend going Ktuner and getting the Tsp stage 1 tune. I’ve been running it on my civic si for a few months and yes it gets ride of the rev hang and the car literally feels like a beast. Crazy difference with just the tune. I leave mine in map 3 sport mode all day and I love it
I wonder if carbon build up on The intake valves is a problem like other direct injection engines, doesn’t look like it would be since the fuel is spraying across the valve while it’s open just curious.
I've just finished watch your video, I did see Blow off valve; but I didn't see where the Throttle body that connect to the air intake.
very good video.
I second your thoughts on putting it in a first generation CRX or third generation Civic hatch!! Actually... I'm going to add a 'PRETTY PLEASE!' for good measure. :)
Have you guys tried fitting this in the new 3rd gen Honda Fit? Even with the CVT transmission.
that L15B7 motor is kinda like the B16 imo except with more technology and a turbo of cource..if i had a fit,i would swap that engine in it vs the k-series since it will probably be easier to install but for other honda cars im sure they will stick with the K-series for many years to come for many reasons.@briangillepsie thanks for making this interesting video.
Thanks for the quick reply. Im doing a 1995 honda odyssey head rebuild
What's your thought about fuel dilution on this particular 1.5 turbo engine? I heard lots of complaints
I want one of these in a 1st gen Insight.
If I were to apply the intake valve cleaner to this engine, which vacuum line is the most suitable? Will I throw a code if I unplug the PVC breather line to inject the cleaner? Is the brake boost line a better option?
VTC just kicked in yo!
Yes I need to learn more about my civic si! Thanks for the video hopefully I can crack it open someday at the moment I’m so scared of it because it’s nothing like the good old b series or even K.
Brian will the 1.5 vtec head off the new accord fit this non vtec L15b7 also can u swap the larger intake tube off the accord that actually comes off the turbo ? I noticed is round unlike the turbo civic intake tube that’s flat ?
put it in the old school 1988 3rd Gen prelude si. that would be sweet. give the old ba4 some love
Compared to the 2.0, how durable will the direct injected turbo be? Trying to decide between the two on a 2017 Civic purchase. Thanks.
I would love some ek mounts to put an L15b7 in my rd1 crv
really would like to know if this motor would fit in my 1976 cvcc civic. please do a test fit if you can find the time!
Really great knowledge 🙂Can You make the same movie on One liter three-cylinder engine ?
Where can I purchase an L15B7 engine and the 6-speed transmission? The wiring harness also along with the ECU.
You dont have to worry you can still get the k20c2 which is in the 2020Lx ..
The rods are a tad bigger in the SI, As well as the inlet for the MAF is slightly larger
In a crx? That would be nuts! My brother has a civic lx hatchback with that motor and I tried it out, it shocked me!
Can you be any more vague?
Is it advisable to put in intake on the 2017 honda civic touring turbo? If so please any recommendation?
Really hope these drop in on a GD3 first gen Fit.
Jaime Melendez with a stick shift.
Amazing video its my L15b7 reference video, do you know if the crv cams are different to the civic sport or Si? Civic seems to rev more freely up top
It's all in the tune. The cams are the same part number.
@@VTECAcademy awesome thanks, its for my dads crv which is a 2018 1.5t awd 6mt, awesome car lucky we got it in manual in europe, its running a custom tune on ktuner and has a prl hvi with race maf housing making around 230hp on 93oct
@@jeryjohn Very nice!
this would be great in a G1 Insight
Yes I want to swap mine in the future but I don't know if I'll go with a k series or an L series
Is there a tech inspection for the 2.0l turbo on the accord?
Any feedback on oil dilution reported on the L15B7?
So what's the final verdict on these 1.5L turbo Honda's? Are they as solid and reliable as prior Civics? I'm torn between a 2018 Civic Hatchback, a Mazda3 Touring Hatchback or maybe an Impreza.
I'd like to see this on a first gen Honda insight
How possible would the L15T and K20C fit into the 16+ Honda HRV CVT or 6spd manual?
Hey vtec academy were is the block heater located on this engine?
Are you guys going to restock the t shirts size (L) I would like to buy a pair. Thank you for your videos!
Hi,I have the L13Z4, can we put the L15B7 turbo in this?Is the engine suitable for turbocharging without modification?
Question can I put the new 2019 CR-V EX on E85
Wondering if it fits in the CR-Z, and completely removed the IMA system.
What is the overall weight of this with the turbo?
I wonder how Honda overcome the carbon build up at the intake valves for this engine.
mint vid
I think it would be a cool swap for the first and second gen fit. Make some mounts.
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@VTEC Academy L15 could be really amazing on EF/EE platform. Give it a try ;)
We have a engine l15b7 but we don want a cvt gearbox so we are looking to try to put a manual gearbox,doy you that it is possible? If it is possible wich gearbox do you recommend us?
Thanks for the video. I heard these engines has rod bolts and head bolts with not good quality.
Do you think that if the car is driven stock, it can last and be a reliable, or should I go for the 2NA engine (which is quite sluggish)
The rod bolts and head bolts are only a problem if you modify the tune significantly. Driven with stock horsepower, it is very reliable. The big problem with the stock engine is with people who have short trips, and the car never gets fully warmed up. This tends to put gasoline past the piston rings and dilute the oil.
@@VTECAcademy what about blown headgaskets and failed injectors that are happening on the stock motors?
Seems Honda haven't engineered in the reliability by strengthening critical parts on that engine. Crank main journals, poor oiling, the material on the crank weights itself. It looks weedy in comparison to the D, B and K series engines.
how much torque can the cvt of the turbo engine take?
Can the new accord engine can fit in my 1995 accord cope bc I am planning to get one
I really want to put that engine in an eg
Have you tried fitting this in the EF?
sounds like this guy really knows his stuff :)
One thing I was wondering, is this engine open-deck or close-deck?
Open
I have a project with my son, do yoy think that we can to adap a manual gearbox in a cvt gearbox?
What about oil dilution?
Hi VA, can this be fitted into a Jazz/Fit?