Are we watching the same videos? The dynamic range isn't good it's just bias towards shadows. It's way over exposing the highlights and bright areas constantly. I would call this dynamic range underwhelming
@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 Fair point about the bright areas (aperture bursting), but the bleed from those areas is nothing like it is in other FPV cams at night. We aren't comparing FPV cams to GoPros, we are comparing Apples to Apples. @6:05 when he turns from the very dark backyard to the windows and back to the backyard, it adjusts quickly from grainy to more pixel data then back again without blinding. There's a good amount of bleed present from the windows but nothing gets unfliably blown out or dark. I'd call it gosh darn impressive low light handling for an FPV cam.
I look forward to the day when I get a peaceful, constitutionally-approved vote on who runs all these government agencies. FAA, ATF, IRS, FBI, CIA...with all the serious crime going on in this country and they're worried about a guy on TH-cam flying a tiny quad in his back yard at night.
They're not worried about it at all. As long as we keep on following their fascist desires voluntarily, they have not a single worry. They pass that fear onto us just like all criminals do.
I like how they say you can't fly on your property we own from center of earth to space ours they decided they would make a law which they cannot do to take it. Now took 200 ft of hobbyist guy space when they could have went up 200 wouldn't have hurt planes or helis
Good camera. I live 10 miles out, fly under a canopy of trees, and it's illegal, lol of course being licensed I don't fly at night😅 I guess I understand why you can't fly under your trees at night in your backyard since theres always that chance an airplane will do a low pass through your back yard, and be brought down by a whoop.🤪
If someone could get close to the level of detail and latency that the O3 provides with their 100fps 1080p modes, I would definitely sign up! Unfortunately, DJI is about 2 steps ahead of everyone else still. 720p is just too much of a drop in image quality, not to mention 60fps vs 100fps with their goggles.
Thanks Nick! I had to mount mine under the frame because my 4" was too crammed for space. Not recommended .... but it won't be up against my power inputs or ribbon cable for the stack. If anyone was wondering, the Walksnail VRX does work with Fatshark Attitude V6. It's just standard definition in the goggles.
I always enjoy your presentation style. The commentary over the flight footage is quite enjoyable. The flight footage looks crisp and clean. The low light, footage is similar to the Caddx polar nano ; ). Great review. The comprehensive measurements are always a nice touch. I do not plan to invest in the Walksnail system, it is still a great review for those thinking of investing in the Walksnail system.
I am not sure what type of flights yours would fall under, but you can legally fly at night now recreationally if you fly under the correct CBO rules. FPVFC and FTCA both allow it if you use anti-collision lights and FTCA does not require lights if you are already flying in a well lit area such as under stadium lights. You should look into it in their safety guidelines because their rules are what the FAA goes by now.
Nice review, thanks for the vid. Having gone with HDZero it's still nice to see imporvements in competing systems, keeps everyone improving and inovating theirs as the circle completes and renews. Cheers!
not sure what it's like in USA but in Canada we are aloud to fly at night as long as we have lights on our drone. if you can see the lights you have visual line of sight. pretty nifty.
its cool they are making a night vision camera. I still have a foxeer starlight 2 toothless camera on an analog system i use for night vision, but this would be fantastic if they could just drop the weight a few grams i'll build a night vision HD whoop!
Better antenna mount/securing. Better mounting options for the vtx. Direct solder and ability to route the wiring. Cheaper then the 1st vtx. You'd almost think I just ordered a pro kit. O wait, I just did. Now the new challenge is how to mount the longer cam in my existing Walksnail set ups (nordfpv5 and Nazgul5 V2) o well, off to wait for 3d prints to pop up. Great vid as always!
Just started flying a snail this week, and I love it so far, but I have only analog to compare. Seems like a total miss by caddx to require the vtx be powered to read storage. There is a power lead on the USB , does it even use it? Maybe a madstech question
I suspect thepower requirement to read the on board storage is greater than 5v from usb. the DJI 03 reads internal storage from USB though. So something for Walksnail to do next :)
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the walksnail Avatar V2, I have been looking at the HDZERO system and walksnail system, and this is definitely looking great. Thanks again for the video and information about the walksnail Avatar V2😊
@Nick Burns at 5:54 the light on the upper corner of your house, its infrared. Thats why its being picked up by the avatar, maybe a security camera? I know my security cams get picked up at night from anything with an infrared sensor or my PVS14 night vision.
It kinda looks like a vista to me, in terms of quality and performance. The 60fps dji camera seems like it performs the same in low light. Not sure I'm convinced to put all my money into walksnail yet, the 1s board is looking good though!
Great video Nick. The cost from Caddx is really great compared to other brands, I'm surprised Walksnail isn't more popular. Weight at 30g is a bit high so I'm hoping the new camera will run on whoop vtx and maybe we can lose the backplate.
Hey Nick, thx for your Review! I’m about to build a TKS Rocket Race and I’m thinking about switching to WS. Do you think this new night camera and 1S lite board will do the job on that build?
The rocket race isn't 2 layer friendly. The props will likely hit the walksnail board. The echo25 is likely a better choice when adding a second layer. The echo20 might work but I have not done a two layer build with that frame.
Oh Awesome! great review as always :D I would ... never .. fly at night, but this would be really great for those very dark bandos and ... things... :D
If you do a night comparison, please do it with the Runcam Link Falcon Nano, as that blows away the Caddx Nebula Pro for nighttime low light performance, for DJI's digital system. Please also check out the performance in 1080p, as the current Avatar system is very poor at 1080p... Most deem it non existent. Nice video, Nick! Good to see some of these digital systems get new advancements. 😎🤘
Great video, thanks. I was wondering if this Pro kit will work with my Walksnail VRX and HDZERO goggles? I know the HDzero goggles only go up to 100fps, does this kit have a 100fps or just a 60/120fps? Will I be forced to use the 60 fps? if so, perhaps I should get the V2 kit cause I know that one does 100fps.
I wish they'd gone for an SD card onboard. So much easier, and faster unloading from a card reader...Plus we still have to power up to pull files..🤔😳🙄😳🇬🇧
me too. while people are concerned about night flying I just wish they would make a system that would handle freestyle flying and not just fixed wing flying. in 20 days I lost two vtx and camera in a slightly more forced landing, including yesterday the sensor of my last nano camera broke in a landing. things that never happened to me in analogue and 1 year of hdzero. i am disappointed with walsknail v1.
Yes, the "go live" for the product is now. I often miss the launch, but I had ample time to get this one out. The new HD V2 kit video will be in a day or two.
@@NickBurnsFPV if your wife is buying them for you then obviously you aren't too old for it. If my wife gets me clothes it's because she thinks it woud look good on me. And she's the only one I want to impress, so I don't care if others don't share her opinion! But when we are out in public wearing funny VR goggles and playing with RC toys... I don't think there is much we can do to save our appearance 🤣
really broad question. I suggest looking at the caddx ant, and runcam nano 3 for lightest and babby ratel 2 and toothless 2 nano for better image quality.
@@NickBurnsFPV yea using ant and ant lite kinda my favorites right now but having troubles with vtx's stock Moby 7 and 6 can go around house with my back facing back of house out to road and around several neighbors houses can't find anything else that will go around house. Tried tbs unify pro 32, zeus nano and some others. It's weird.
@@FyePhi1 Yes, the 03 night vision isn't very good. But the 03 does have better resolution, but the fps is the same or so close to the same I have not heard of anyone drawing out a difference.
I have only had 1 issue with the 10+ Walksnail quads I have flown. The issue is the on board recording wouldn't stop and the file would become corrupted when the battery was unplugged. It could be a firmware issue, I need to flash it again to test that theory.
Everything was perfect, I had it connected from the vbat of the FC to a Matek F411 and I would see everything fine with a multimeter, that is a manufacturer's problem.
I just got my v2 pro kit with the night camera i installed it on the rotor riot tanq frame the tpu antenna mount was a little small to hold the antenna so i used one of the v1 antennas does anyone think this could cause a problem for me or will it be fine
I can't say with any certainty, but I suspect the difference would be minor or unnoticeable in most environments. I think this as to my knowledge the transmission didn't change in the v2 kits.
@@NickBurnsFPV I just feel it's as good as if not better than DJI and would be a lot more easier to build with... I did the 03 air unit believe it or not I prefer My vista I don't know just seem better than DJI
@Nick Burns yes! That just confirms my thoughts on getting a refurbished Pixel 7 Pro! I have been searching for a phone with great video/photo, screen, etc. As well as a descent refurbished or used price. I found a 512gb 7 pro on Swappa yesterday for $412 in good condition, but I don't quite have enough $$ yet, sadly.
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What is most shocking is how well it handles light source areas versus very dark areas. The dynamic range is gosh darn impressive.
Are we watching the same videos? The dynamic range isn't good it's just bias towards shadows. It's way over exposing the highlights and bright areas constantly. I would call this dynamic range underwhelming
@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 Fair point about the bright areas (aperture bursting), but the bleed from those areas is nothing like it is in other FPV cams at night. We aren't comparing FPV cams to GoPros, we are comparing Apples to Apples. @6:05 when he turns from the very dark backyard to the windows and back to the backyard, it adjusts quickly from grainy to more pixel data then back again without blinding. There's a good amount of bleed present from the windows but nothing gets unfliably blown out or dark. I'd call it gosh darn impressive low light handling for an FPV cam.
@All-in FPV I agree the exposure adjustment is way better now 🔥🔥
@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 I agree... We've seen FPV cams with better dynamic range
Very happy with low light sensitivity though!
Walksnail are doing their thing, not bad at all.
I look forward to the day when I get a peaceful, constitutionally-approved vote on who runs all these government agencies. FAA, ATF, IRS, FBI, CIA...with all the serious crime going on in this country and they're worried about a guy on TH-cam flying a tiny quad in his back yard at night.
That’ll never happen. It’ll only get worse. We seem to have been sliding into bureaucratic authoritarianism for the last few years.
They're not worried about it at all. As long as we keep on following their fascist desires voluntarily, they have not a single worry. They pass that fear onto us just like all criminals do.
I like how they say you can't fly on your property we own from center of earth to space ours they decided they would make a law which they cannot do to take it. Now took 200 ft of hobbyist guy space when they could have went up 200 wouldn't have hurt planes or helis
wow run I mean walksnail has come a long way.
Good camera. I live 10 miles out, fly under a canopy of trees, and it's illegal, lol of course being licensed I don't fly at night😅 I guess I understand why you can't fly under your trees at night in your backyard since theres always that chance an airplane will do a low pass through your back yard, and be brought down by a whoop.🤪
lol. yes we have to give way to aircraft under the canopy. :)
Screw the FAA, that was absolutely flyable! 😯
That was a great video Nick walksnail is getting much better , it almost making me sell my dji stuff . Stay safe
If someone could get close to the level of detail and latency that the O3 provides with their 100fps 1080p modes, I would definitely sign up! Unfortunately, DJI is about 2 steps ahead of everyone else still. 720p is just too much of a drop in image quality, not to mention 60fps vs 100fps with their goggles.
Thanks Nick! I had to mount mine under the frame because my 4" was too crammed for space.
Not recommended .... but it won't be up against my power inputs or ribbon cable for the stack.
If anyone was wondering, the Walksnail VRX does work with Fatshark Attitude V6. It's just standard definition in the goggles.
Nick,Beyond gorgeous! Thanks for you review!!😍
Snow Day! Not bad at night pretty cool.
I always enjoy your presentation style. The commentary over the flight footage is quite enjoyable. The flight footage looks crisp and clean. The low light, footage is similar to the Caddx polar nano ; ). Great review. The comprehensive measurements are always a nice touch. I do not plan to invest in the Walksnail system, it is still a great review for those thinking of investing in the Walksnail system.
Thank you. Appreciate the complements.
I am not sure what type of flights yours would fall under, but you can legally fly at night now recreationally if you fly under the correct CBO rules. FPVFC and FTCA both allow it if you use anti-collision lights and FTCA does not require lights if you are already flying in a well lit area such as under stadium lights. You should look into it in their safety guidelines because their rules are what the FAA goes by now.
Nice review, thanks for the vid. Having gone with HDZero it's still nice to see imporvements in competing systems, keeps everyone improving and inovating theirs as the circle completes and renews. Cheers!
wow, reminds me of the Caddx Polar, love night camera, perfect for that Night Spot!!!! Great Review NB!!!
Great review as always Nick. 👍🙏👍🙏
not sure what it's like in USA but in Canada we are aloud to fly at night as long as we have lights on our drone. if you can see the lights you have visual line of sight. pretty nifty.
That seems pretty reasonable. Wish we had more reason in our US regs
its cool they are making a night vision camera. I still have a foxeer starlight 2 toothless camera on an analog system i use for night vision, but this would be fantastic if they could just drop the weight a few grams i'll build a night vision HD whoop!
Better antenna mount/securing.
Better mounting options for the vtx.
Direct solder and ability to route the wiring.
Cheaper then the 1st vtx.
You'd almost think I just ordered a pro kit.
O wait, I just did.
Now the new challenge is how to mount the longer cam in my existing Walksnail set ups (nordfpv5 and Nazgul5 V2) o well, off to wait for 3d prints to pop up.
Great vid as always!
Nice work as usual
And shout out to Nick for all his whoop videos love these things wish I could get one that lasted longer than a month though
each one will last longer, just as our skills continue to develop.
helpful vid! thx nick! staying very compliant with the faa I see hehehe
Fantastic flying and review, Nick! 😃
Really impressive camera! It's fantastic how it works! 😯
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Just started flying a snail this week, and I love it so far, but I have only analog to compare. Seems like a total miss by caddx to require the vtx be powered to read storage. There is a power lead on the USB , does it even use it? Maybe a madstech question
I suspect thepower requirement to read the on board storage is greater than 5v from usb. the DJI 03 reads internal storage from USB though. So something for Walksnail to do next :)
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the walksnail Avatar V2, I have been looking at the HDZERO system and walksnail system, and this is definitely looking great. Thanks again for the video and information about the walksnail Avatar V2😊
@Nick Burns at 5:54 the light on the upper corner of your house, its infrared. Thats why its being picked up by the avatar, maybe a security camera? I know my security cams get picked up at night from anything with an infrared sensor or my PVS14 night vision.
ah yes, It is a security camera. Thank you that makes sense.
It kinda looks like a vista to me, in terms of quality and performance. The 60fps dji camera seems like it performs the same in low light. Not sure I'm convinced to put all my money into walksnail yet, the 1s board is looking good though!
Heck yeah! Cool! Great video nick! Does it have audio yet? Lol
No audio on this one
Great video Nick. The cost from Caddx is really great compared to other brands, I'm surprised Walksnail isn't more popular. Weight at 30g is a bit high so I'm hoping the new camera will run on whoop vtx and maybe we can lose the backplate.
Excellent video
Thanks for another great review, really impressive camera.
Thanks Nick for all your hard work and videos. I check daily as your content is so good!
Hey Nick, thx for your Review!
I’m about to build a TKS Rocket Race and I’m thinking about switching to WS.
Do you think this new night camera and 1S lite board will do the job on that build?
The rocket race isn't 2 layer friendly. The props will likely hit the walksnail board. The echo25 is likely a better choice when adding a second layer. The echo20 might work but I have not done a two layer build with that frame.
good night vision, not as good as the Polar Nano or Polar by Caddx, but does have higher resolution...
Oh Awesome! great review as always :D
I would ... never .. fly at night, but this would be really great for those very dark bandos and ... things... :D
Ah yes the band is good call
Thanks for sharing
If you do a night comparison, please do it with the Runcam Link Falcon Nano, as that blows away the Caddx Nebula Pro for nighttime low light performance, for DJI's digital system.
Please also check out the performance in 1080p, as the current Avatar system is very poor at 1080p... Most deem it non existent.
Nice video, Nick! Good to see some of these digital systems get new advancements. 😎🤘
I’m curious, if at night does the image get blown out if for example your filming a bright burst like fireworks?
I don't have a sample of such lighting. Might be difficult to come by as we can't do fireworks here outside of the 4th of july.
@@NickBurnsFPV maybe a strobing flashlight would suffice?
Great video, thanks. I was wondering if this Pro kit will work with my Walksnail VRX and HDZERO goggles? I know the HDzero goggles only go up to 100fps, does this kit have a 100fps or just a 60/120fps? Will I be forced to use the 60 fps? if so, perhaps I should get the V2 kit cause I know that one does 100fps.
We can run the high frame rate with the vrx and hdzero goggles. Hdzero has firmware to compensate for the frame rate differences.
@@NickBurnsFPV that’s good news, thanks for the response. Happy flying…
Why they just canot add a normal usb connector i mean the alod analog vtx has the isb future 😂 i liked your review 🙂
very interesting!
Thanks nick
We just bought all the vtxs after buying the vrx they released and now they release updated vtxs and cameras...
Next product from Walksnail should be a 3in1 VTX USB cable 🙂
yes, that would cover all the different connector sizes.
looks cool!
I wish they'd gone for an SD card onboard. So much easier, and faster unloading from a card reader...Plus we still have to power up to pull files..🤔😳🙄😳🇬🇧
My internet can't even buffer WS videos lmao
How to reduce the jello ?
I wonder about crash resistance 😅
me too. while people are concerned about night flying I just wish they would make a system that would handle freestyle flying and not just fixed wing flying. in 20 days I lost two vtx and camera in a slightly more forced landing, including yesterday the sensor of my last nano camera broke in a landing. things that never happened to me in analogue and 1 year of hdzero. i am disappointed with walsknail v1.
Do you guys a release time? I get 6 notifications about the v2 at once.
In a couple hours
Yes, the "go live" for the product is now. I often miss the launch, but I had ample time to get this one out. The new HD V2 kit video will be in a day or two.
Is this can work with dji Fpv and googles 2 ?
No, this is the walksnail avatar video system
I wish they would just put a USB port on the VTX instead of dealing with those tiny connectors and custom cables.
Hello Nick, What about downloading the files from this vrx how fast? Does it need to be power from the lipo or just via USB by itself?
requires power. Speed is okay, I didn't time it, but it didn't make me take note of it going slow or fast.
Those sexy shorty socks 😂😂😂
funny right. I keep thinking I am a bit old for those, but my wife keeps buying them. :)
@@NickBurnsFPV if your wife is buying them for you then obviously you aren't too old for it. If my wife gets me clothes it's because she thinks it woud look good on me. And she's the only one I want to impress, so I don't care if others don't share her opinion!
But when we are out in public wearing funny VR goggles and playing with RC toys... I don't think there is much we can do to save our appearance 🤣
@@Tokyo_Dom agreed on all points. 💯
Have you flown it at night?
No, its no longer legal.
@@NickBurnsFPVWhere are you seeing this? FAA website says different...
@@xBarnabyJonesx You might be right. I see they require the anit collision lighting but the flying at night appears to have been amended.
What is best analog vtx and camera and lightest ? That u have used
really broad question. I suggest looking at the caddx ant, and runcam nano 3 for lightest and babby ratel 2 and toothless 2 nano for better image quality.
@@NickBurnsFPV yea using ant and ant lite kinda my favorites right now but having troubles with vtx's stock Moby 7 and 6 can go around house with my back facing back of house out to road and around several neighbors houses can't find anything else that will go around house. Tried tbs unify pro 32, zeus nano and some others. It's weird.
@@mitchfowler646 maybe the eachine nano vtx it does 400mw, but it sounds like you might have tried the 500mw tbs vtx, I forget its name.
The polar vista seems much better. Shame there isn’t a successor for DJI.
Can you connect the camera to Dji units?
No
@@NickBurnsFPV 😭
@@chopwhoopz The different hd systems aren't compatible with one another.
@Nick Burns Is this night vision better than dji03? If so does dji03 have better fps and resolution?
@@FyePhi1 Yes, the 03 night vision isn't very good. But the 03 does have better resolution, but the fps is the same or so close to the same I have not heard of anyone drawing out a difference.
Hi! Is it reliable? I saw some people saying that walksnail is excelente, but when it works... Is it a real thing?
I have only had 1 issue with the 10+ Walksnail quads I have flown. The issue is the on board recording wouldn't stop and the file would become corrupted when the battery was unplugged. It could be a firmware issue, I need to flash it again to test that theory.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you for reply
I thank it looks good to me. Lol
Hello friend, how much volt do I feed the vtx with?
Its always best to check the product page as companies can change specifications at any time. From the product page it accepts 6v-25.2v
I ask you why I bought 2 vtx and I set it to 4s and according to the manufacturer it can withstand 22 vol and they were damaged
@@teurisleonardo8229 ah, how is it wired? Going straight to battery or vcc on flight controller? Any use of a capacitor?
Everything was perfect, I had it connected from the vbat of the FC to a Matek F411 and I would see everything fine with a multimeter, that is a manufacturer's problem.
@@teurisleonardo8229Was a capacitor used? Was the 4s battery high volt charged?
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I have walksnail 1s lite on babyape works good. But having freeze issues with vrx anyone else have problems with vrx
Are you running 1080p mode? Have freezing on 720p?
I just got my v2 pro kit with the night camera i installed it on the rotor riot tanq frame the tpu antenna mount was a little small to hold the antenna so i used one of the v1 antennas does anyone think this could cause a problem for me or will it be fine
I can't say with any certainty, but I suspect the difference would be minor or unnoticeable in most environments. I think this as to my knowledge the transmission didn't change in the v2 kits.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you I will definitely let everyone know if it does seem to cause any issues
@@adamcfpv5372 yes please do.
not being able to fly whenever you want in a yard on property that you own is BS.....
The night vision mode was night.
??? night mode? yes
@Nick Burns lol sorry it was supposed to say it was Nice lol
Damn
Of course I did not fly but you can imagine this is what I saw…errr would have seen.
Wear your helmets kids😉
Seriously contemplating on getting rid of my DJI stuff and going walksnail
Is it the iteration of Walksnail or another factor promoting the potential change.
Got any nebula pros and the original air unit?
@@NickBurnsFPV I just feel it's as good as if not better than DJI and would be a lot more easier to build with... I did the 03 air unit believe it or not I prefer My vista I don't know just seem better than DJI
@@xORLOCKx 2 nebula pros but no more og air unit
Is the phone a Pixel 7? I want a pixel 7 pro.
yes, pixel 7 only.
@Nick Burns yes! That just confirms my thoughts on getting a refurbished Pixel 7 Pro! I have been searching for a phone with great video/photo, screen, etc. As well as a descent refurbished or used price. I found a 512gb 7 pro on Swappa yesterday for $412 in good condition, but I don't quite have enough $$ yet, sadly.
U ddnt respond to my instagram