This game is the perfect example of what you should NOT do in an RPG. Like one attack has a robot character immobilized for five turns to charge, then they explode. Your party gets hurt more than enemies from it, enemies take a whopping 25 damage, and then the character has to charge for another five turns to reboot. Remember that in that specific part of the game, your only party is Alex and the robot. That’s not fun.
@@ConnorTheUndying You've clearly not seen how overpowered Alex can easily become mid-late game with LP Toss due to how poorly balanced the scaling is. He sweeps literally everything with one hit, including bosses- he actually can break the game's scripting because he can kill bosses you are supposed to lose to and they didn't script anything in preparation for that.
@@SgtBilby Just looked it up, I remember seeing it on the Wii U like a million years ago and just thinking “eh who cares hahaha” but honestly it seems pretty good. Never heard anyone ever talk about it. I will give it a try, thank you for the suggestion
Oh, YIIK...or should I say Yick. I saw this game on the Nintendo Switch Eshop and thought it was some quirky hidden gem and reminded me of Earthbound, so I decided to put it on my wishlist. But after learning that the developer said that videogames aren’t art just because people criticized his game (or at least something along those lines), and seeing reviews of it on TH-cam soon after, I removed it posthaste. All I can say is that I certainly dodged the world’s largest bullet there.
Pretty much same here also there's apparently some ending where the main character trys to red pill you or what ever and also the story is based off of a murder that and the horrible writing it all just kinda boiled down to a big no for me
For a game called YIIK, it sure doesn't have anything to do with the Y2K incident. Almost like the dev was scrolling through the internet for "weird names for shit" and found that one.
i beielive its supposed to take place like on the year 2000 or at least in the later stages of 1999 where Y2K was on people's minds granted this isstill superfluous to the main story
the whole idea of the game is that it's 1999 and the world is about to end and everyone thought the world was gonna end on Y2K so that's the correlation
To be fair, the game does have a whole thing about the actual Y2K incident being a force of nature villain of sorts near the very end, but people would probably already be burnt to hell and back with the game before they even considered playing long enough to see that
yoshiclay9000 oof wow maybe the main character reflects themselves and they don’t get the weight of DEATH. ...actually I have a feeling the devs will see this, and be pissed off assholes about it. That will be sad but delicious to watch Manga get into. >:D
@@GigaPhoenix9001 The lead writer has made some posts that would indicate he is one of many that were bizarrely fascinated with the mysterious circumstances of Elisa Lam's death, like, in an almost perverse way. And that is why he gets to much flack for it, because it comes off way more distasteful when it's pretty apparent Alex is set up to be a stand-in for the author. Yet the script later on is bizarrely self aware of it, because Claudio displays the obsession, trawling through message boards for these sort of mysterious disappearances, but immediately has to clarify that he's not getting off from it. In contrast, many crime dramas have written scenarios based on Lam's circumstances- Castle, for example- but they don't have a lead character acting like they 'should have been the one to save her' the way Alex is presented.
Brisson Kévin Actually from what I’ve gathered it isn’t a murder, it was a suicide, they found that the girl drowned herself, they said that it was possible she was having a psychotic episode which is why she was acting so strangely, so yeah it’s simply a suicide, not actually murder.
@@ryancarson6962 Really find it hard to believe it's suicide since she drowned in the hotel's water that she should never been able to have access to in the first place and she chose to drown instead of leaping from the roof where the water is stored if it was "simply a suicide."
@@Mangakamen Holy shit, pretty cool man, I actually watched you way back during your GradeA vids, you were one of the people I remember calling him out on his bullshit before.
My main issue with games like this is lack of self awareness. You see games like Space Funeral, Lisa The Painful, OFF and even Undertale have a hint of playfulness and comfort when relaying their messages and points. YIIK is like a long boring lecture about someone spouting off their knowledge in the most condescending way humanly possible. There's this idea that when writing NEVER talk down at the viewer as it makes them feel stupid and YIIK breaks this rule and scatters the pieces all over the place.
@@drbuni All stories have a message? They're stories. It's literally impossible for them to not have messages. I haven't played SF (though I keep hearing about in YiiK comments, so gotta check that out), but all the other games have extremely strong themes about child-parent relationships ranging from neglect to straight up abuse. Like, it's absolutely wild for you to say what you said about these three games in particular, which all share *the same strong theming* Captain Planet, Lord of the Rings, and The Matchstick Girl are all very different types of stories from different time periods, and they all have themes of energy conservation, and thus a message of energy conversation. How hard that theme is pushed as a message does differ, with Captain Planet obviously pushing the hardest on the Message Pedal. But it's important to not mistake "Not going full 80's cartoon on your messaging" as "Not having messaging".
But it has Post-Modern right in the title. That's telling anyone with even a 101 understanding or access to Wikipedia and ten minutes of free time to not expect to be comforted or taken care of the way all other forms of art do, and that any and all rules can and will be broken. If you don't want that, that's fine! Makes sense! It's an extremely acquired taste. But YiiK goes out of its way to warn you about what's inside! It's like going to Dick's Last Resort and complaining that the wait staff was rude to you.
I would rather play another, better RPG game that starts off with an unlikable protagonist: World Ends With You! And look, it came out on Switch! EDIT: Oh! I forgot about Disgaea! I'll play that too!
The World End With You is a much. MUCH. Better rpg game than this....demonic occult thing that is Yiik. Because this game is actually made by people who are competent ! People who know how to make a good game ! PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND HOW TO WRITE A GOOD STORY ! PEOPLE WHO- *Okay I calm down*
Neku is a good example of an unlikeable protagonist because he is still sympathetic, you can understand why he acts so uncaring about those around him thus making the player connect with him. Alex on the other hand is unlikeable AND unsympathetic, there's no reason why he acts so self absorb besides the fact that he's just an asshole. (I'm surprised Rory didn't try to kill Alex) There's also the fact that Neku develops throughout the game and becomes a much more caring person as it progresses, leading up to a certain scene near the end of the game. Alex barely changes at all. Neku is dynamic, and Alex is static. Moral of the story: Go play TWEWY instead of YIIK.
1. Is it just me, or does Michael look like MatPat? 2. And one of the worst things about this game is it’s reliance on explaining everything. Show-don’t-tell exists for a reason.
Worse than that in regard to 2) is that it's not that it talks too much explaining everything, but that it talks way too much about things that have nothing to do with the story, like the 15 minute cutscene about tea and Cludio's multiple tangents about anime in the middle of serious moments; or about completely obtuse technobabble that literally only makes sense to the character expositing and nobody else, like just about every time Vella has something to say. Though I think the most egregious is the bait and switch- after wasting hours of our time 'explaining' what is really happening, they reveal in the last seconds ALL of that was a character lying to you from the moment they started talking.
@@gtf234 Everything you said is what makes YiiK an extremely solid Post-Modern art piece though. The whole point is that the game shows you the important details cloaked in visual metaphor, while constantly telling you all sorts of irrelevant garbage. It's a fun post-modern riff on difficulty in RPGs, where the difficulty comes not from the mechanical Game part (combat is long and tedious, but not difficult in the traditional sense), but from how difficult the RP part is, because it's truly difficult to stay with this insufferable character for so long and stay engaged enough to be able to sort the chaff and the lies from the few revelatory nuggets Which is not going to be for everyone! That's a lot of work and pain for little reward, when you could be doing something that is actively trying to comfort or distract you instead. But some people are into that and that's why the game is clearly labeled as Post-Modern right in the title so people won't be surprised when they get a piece of hostile art that actively tries to dissuade the player from playing. Post-Modernism is great because it offers something for people who enjoy its anti-convention flavours, but as you showed in your comment, a good Post-Modernist art piece can be helpful even for those who hate it and PM in general, because it provides a handy list of Don'ts for when making non-PM art.
@@pantslesswrock bruh why are you on every single comment i see on this video holy shit,now this is some next level dedication to defend an already forgotten game
@@randomperson093 Not defend, explain. There are all sorts of problems with YiiK that we never get to discuss because people don't even know what it's actually about! It's like being someone who wants to discuss the flaws and strengths of Memento, but can't because all anyone talks about is that the editing is confusing and out of order. Except movie goers either understood Memento or heard it was backwards and stayed away. No such luck with gamers I'm afraid. Thanks! I was wondering when someone would notice 😉
I didn't knew about this game's existence until I saw your video, and even then I was confused, so I did some research and... OH BOY! NOW I UNDERSTAND, and I'm speechless...
I like how Christopher Niosi shouted-out this game on his channel since he he voiced the main character. It would’ve been hilarious if they update the game so that his voice-overs were swapped out with an voice actor because of his controversy.
Richioh It’s unlikely that would happen, this isn’t an official game backed by a powerful video game company, it’s an indie game that’s done by someone who isn’t well known, it’s severely unlikely they have the budget to redo all those lines for the character.
Byleth was replaced because he broke NDA and he has so little dialogue that his lines could be re-recorded in one afternoon. It had nothing to do with his controversy.
I can't say much about the game itself since I haven't played it, but it's a shame to hear how the creator of the game reacted to the criticism he got, which seemed to have turned off most people who liked and defended the game. Say what you will about Mighty No 9 (I don't have any problems with it), at least Inafune took the criticism he got to heart and admitted that he was at fault instead of going on a rant about how people are too stupid to understand how games is a form of art.
MN9 ended up being a massive shitshow of a project management problem and has likely ended any credibility and goodwill Inafune's name carried, but yeah, he at least took the fault for all of it as the one ultimately in charge and therefore responsible. For what it's worth, while it was nothing like what was promised and hyped, I still think MN9 at least plays and functions well- I enjoyed it for what it is; I can't say that about YIIK. It's too much of a slog to enjoy as is, divorced from the developer's attitude- just riddled with bad design ideas that take even 10 minutes playtesting to notice are mind numbingly boring or far too much effort for too little payoff. My favorite example is Claudio's most basic attack skill is a 30 second minigame that barely does anymore damage than his regular attack- that's way too long of a time to sit there for just one character action.
Loving the new avatar Kamen~ This was also a really good video, I honestly never heard of this game before now. I'm glad you covered it, while the graphics look nice. Some of the scenes are too much on my eyes, the really flashy ones, this also just doesn't seem like the type of Rpg I'd play. 😊
Apparently the mixing-up the sex of the cat was a deliberate indication that something was wrong and was supposed to be a plot point, but that wasn't communicated very well.
The game is *filled* with inconsistencies setting up the reveal that this is all in Alex's head. In the first thirty minutes alone, Michael references his childhood as happening while he was in high school, a stuffed toy unpacked from a box talks, the town is a hodge-podge of clashing art styles, you can fight Web 2.0 gifs like that dancing stop sign you used to see on In Construction sites, and half of Sammy's dialogue conflicts with the other half of Sammy's dialogue (almost like talking with her in the game is a clear metaphor for stumbling upon her story in 4chan and reading through all the many different inconsistent theories about what kind of person she was) - and that's all in the first few minutes of a game that LITERALLY HAS POST-MODERN IN THE TITLE. If you want your plot and mysteries spoon-fed to you like in other genres, then try literally anything not clearly labeled with "Hey, this narrative is going to be dense and confusing, none of the important details will be told but hours will be spent on irrelevant details, and you'll have to experience it three or four times before it starts to click" RIGHT IN THE TITLE I MEAN 4CHAN IS LITERALLY REPRESENTED IN THE GAME AS A TOXIC WASTE FACTORY THE GAME ISN'T BEING SUBTLE ABOUT ITS MESSAGING People like you are why they are making Alex even more insufferable in the update. When the world has to suffer through Alex singing karaoke about his toxic internet-forum-inspired obsession with a dead woman, you are who I will blame.
Scott pilgrim doea the "unlikable/terrible protagonist" much better. Mostly since in the final act, scott realizes he's been a shitty shit and works to make amends where he can in tge epilogue. True his friends never outright leave him but even kim starts to treat him more favoribly when the big reveal happens.
I kind of honestly feel like the graphics probably could use some improvement but I can't quite put my finger on it, I think it's because the colors are too flat and/or the graphics need outlines.
YIIK is Painful To play i Couldn't Play it for more than 30-60 Minutes at most before wanting to burn this horrid Abomination that they dare call a game
i never get tired of videos clowning on this game. I wishlisted it on steam i hope one day I can stream on twitch and hate-play it while streaming and tearing it apart for it's MANY faults should be fun.
Tone deaf is an understatement. Putting aside the clip used here, of Alex yelling at a Rory that he doesn't care that Rory's sister was bullied into suicide, just before that grinding the game to a dead stop while Vella infodumps (all obtuse metaphysical nonsense too btw) for 10 minutes while a seemingly menacing and invincible boss just stands there waiting for her to finish yapping. You'd think this was supposed to be a tense and dangerous moment just before that....then it segues into a fight with a gold alpaca that attacks by shouting LEMONADE! at you with a goofy bgm.
The worst part about the monologue is how in depth he goes with it. How much is being explained from his own interpretation rather than whats going on. The strong disconnect from whats actually happening rather than what is.
holy shit "The strong disconnect between what is actually happening and what is" You just succinctly and accurately labeled what YiiK is intentionally doing to prime you for the reveal that the house and the town and Michael and Vella and more are all in Alex's mind, fragmented ghosts of his past unwittingly conjured up to soothe his isolation as he considers whether or not to kill himself for being such an unlikeable piece of shit You got the vibe that the game was trying to impart on you, the game and you succeeded at communicating, and then you labeled that successful interaction as "the worst part" Incredible
from bone boi to bat? interesting.. but we gotta give this bat an engine.. this will be a BEST MATCH!!! anyway nice to see you spicing things up a bit kamen :)
But it's hands down the MOST Post-Modern game of its length ever made? Post-Modernism is an expression of pain and betrayal at how the previously noble Science and Art were twisted into the greatest exercise of mass human death in three history of the planet. Post-Modernism is inherently about questioning all assumptions about art, such as pacing, taste, legibility, importance, and mechanics. People often go on and on about all the many things YiiK does that are non-standard, or "wrong" by conventional definitions. Generally art wants to draw you in, and the skill of the artist is measured by how well their art ensnares you. But Post-Modernism inherently wants to push the audience away and hurt them. Because Post-Modernism saw how good art that effectively draws in the viewer was turned into propaganda fueling a planet-wide decline in the male population - and it would rather punish you and fill you with pain now, so maybe you'll be spared the surprising and far more physical pain that they went through. YiiK constantly lies to you, it forces you to acknowledge and grapple with concerns of narrative and game design most other art pieces are trying to hide from you for a more pleasant experience, it does hilarious subverting of every aspect of what makes JRPG combat and level up systems compelling, flowy, and fun, it is very difficult to know what's going on in the story without experiencing it multiple times, and it generally is mired in pain, a pain it wants you to experience as well. It's Post-Modern as hell. Unlike all the Mother-likes or even something like The Beginner's Guide or Pathologic, it is not good conventional art that's trying to be a good consumer product but with a little Post-Modern spice, it's a solid brick of Post-Modern Vegemite that you have to chew through. It's neither fun nor rewarding, but it is an experience. Post-Modernism!
Le bones where is skull is he alive again 🤯 also I think I heard of the game though I am a fan of the rpg style I really don't see anything that would drag me into this game tobia honest
2:15 Yuka amd layya should be standing in the corner with mighty number 9 4:32 yuriofwind wtf 14:08 bootleg foo fighters? How dare YtooK steal from KING NOTHING'S CALIFORNIA KING BED SIZED ADVENTURE. No dignity
@Kaiser Weeb His voice seems to be for sarcastic or jabby remarks, especially in his creepypasta related videos. While yeah his voice could use work, there is potential I believe.
Hoo boy, those YIIK references in “VA-11 Hall-A: Cyberpunk Bartender Action” did NOT age well! (Btw, you should totally check out that game instead of YIIK, it’s on Steam and Nintendo Switch ;) )
@@EliseArainai I'm not good with names but that Idol chick stood out to me They give such integration into the "background" of the game Like you can read about her live shows and her fans and stuff I also love her design
MapleMilk that sounds like Kira Miki, and I don’t blame you; she was a sweetheart! I’m a fan of Sei myself, and I love her friendship with the catgirl Stella
@@EliseArainai Also can we talk about that soundtrack? Easily one of the best soundtracks in any game of the 2010s It captures that Cyberpunk aesthetic so well Especially because you get to set it every session I love it
Y'know, I was thinking of doing some dumb little dark Persona fan game on RPG Maker or something, but I told myself the idea was dumb Then I found out this game was real and people paid money for it, and suddenly it didn't feel like such a dumb idea anymore
the other thing about disagea character sis that they're jerks...because they're all demons and even then most of them are pretty much just tryign to act 'evil' and end up just looking childish and bratty, and often many of them do have good qualities where many of the worst villains are utter scumbags. Also, valvatorez is a treasure and must be protected. basically theere's a POINT to the characers being all jerks, or at least a reason, while YIIK's protag is just...an asshole.
When I saw the trailer for this game, I was super excited about it. The art style was really unique and the setting with the limited story presented really drew me in. Not to mention that Toby Fox was credited for the music. I really wanted this game to be good. Then I saw all the reviews about what a pretentious mess the game is and how the main character is an insufferable asshole that makes it hard to play through. I decided not to waste my money, and based on this review as well, I'm glad I didn't. I'm still a bit bummed about all the wasted potential though.
One thing I think that should be addressed when people try to defend Alex as a character/protagonist... You know Kurono from Gantz? You know Cain from Drakengard? You know Shinji from Evangelion? You know Guts from Berserk? You know Johnny Joestar from Jojo's Bizarre Adventures: Part 7 (Steel Ball Run)? If the answer for all the questions is yes the...
Idk Quinton’s person is very wishy washy with how he acts. Even his content projects it but at the same time he does make some pretty interesting videos minus one or two. It’s a situation where you can’t separate the two but you kinda have to , man I’m rambling
Average person: What a strange game, I wonder why it’s so bad. Me: *Staring intensely while hula hooping* “Allow me to show you, traveller. A game where Weeb Katana guy should have been the main character, the basic combat should have existed and the story less trying hard to be convoluted. Hula hoop with me.”
Ngl I would have been happy if the game had just straight up ripped off of SMRPG/Paper Mario's active/timed hits instead of the clunkfest of combat minigames
Minor point of criticism to the video, it might have been a better idea to use footage from Paper Mario that's past the tutorial area since you can't do the action commands until then, or use TTYD footage since you can always use the action commands.
People hate on Rory's voice acting... I wont lie yeah he had REALLY BAD lines but YuriOfWind (yes YuriofWind is Rory) did well with what he had to work with
Oof you are going through this painful mess of a game. The only good thing about it is the battle music TobyFox made. Tbh, I actually enjoyed Mighty #9 more than I should've love
I was looking for a paper Mario game but I could only find one costing 700$ so I said hell no I ain’t buying it, and forgot to check any other store afterwards.
"I certainly didn't think I'd be sitting here after school making TH-cam videos that'll probably get less views than the number of brain cells I have" Considering the average human brain has 100 billion cells, that's pretty likely.
The black weeb character in the game is the best character and wished he could have been the main character.
He should've been the main character
Mathew Ricafrente And Rory too.
I agree so badly
Claudio deserves to be in Skullgirls 2
Claudio for Smash Ultimate
This game is the perfect example of what you should NOT do in an RPG. Like one attack has a robot character immobilized for five turns to charge, then they explode. Your party gets hurt more than enemies from it, enemies take a whopping 25 damage, and then the character has to charge for another five turns to reboot. Remember that in that specific part of the game, your only party is Alex and the robot. That’s not fun.
And Claudio's 30 second minigame for an attack skill that barely hits harder than his Fight command.
No attack deals more than 25 damage. And this game says that it's inspired by Earthbound, a game where you can get LUDICROUSLY powerful.
@@ConnorTheUndying You've clearly not seen how overpowered Alex can easily become mid-late game with LP Toss due to how poorly balanced the scaling is. He sweeps literally everything with one hit, including bosses- he actually can break the game's scripting because he can kill bosses you are supposed to lose to and they didn't script anything in preparation for that.
Super great point! NOTING IMMEDIATELY FOR FUTURE GAMES SO I WON'T MAKE SAME MISTAKES!!
And that's not to mention the atrocious writing.
This is the worst “I want to be Earthbound” game ever.
Eden Industries did it better with the Citizens series of games (Citizens of Earth and Citizens of Space)
@@SgtBilby
Just looked it up, I remember seeing it on the Wii U like a million years ago and just thinking “eh who cares hahaha” but honestly it seems pretty good. Never heard anyone ever talk about it. I will give it a try, thank you for the suggestion
It's not though. It doesn't want to be Earthbound. Pretty clearly. It wants to be a Murakami novel that occasionally references Earthbound.
Oh, YIIK...or should I say Yick.
I saw this game on the Nintendo Switch Eshop and thought it was some quirky hidden gem and reminded me of Earthbound, so I decided to put it on my wishlist.
But after learning that the developer said that videogames aren’t art just because people criticized his game (or at least something along those lines), and seeing reviews of it on TH-cam soon after, I removed it posthaste.
All I can say is that I certainly dodged the world’s largest bullet there.
Pretty much same here also there's apparently some ending where the main character trys to red pill you or what ever and also the story is based off of a murder that and the horrible writing it all just kinda boiled down to a big no for me
YIIK? More like YUCK!
For a game called YIIK, it sure doesn't have anything to do with the Y2K incident. Almost like the dev was scrolling through the internet for "weird names for shit" and found that one.
i beielive its supposed to take place like on the year 2000 or at least in the later stages of 1999 where Y2K was on people's minds
granted this isstill superfluous to the main story
[Under Night] In-Birth
the whole idea of the game is that it's 1999 and the world is about to end and everyone thought the world was gonna end on Y2K so that's the correlation
It makes sense if you think that Y2k is a metaphor for how the writer peaked in 1999.
To be fair, the game does have a whole thing about the actual Y2K incident being a force of nature villain of sorts near the very end, but people would probably already be burnt to hell and back with the game before they even considered playing long enough to see that
Did you know the girl disapearing in the elevator is based on a true case of murder?
the creator got backlash about that and the creator's excuse is that the victim of the murder didn't have a "great official story"
yoshiclay9000 oof wow maybe the main character reflects themselves and they don’t get the weight of DEATH.
...actually I have a feeling the devs will see this, and be pissed off assholes about it. That will be sad but delicious to watch Manga get into. >:D
@@GigaPhoenix9001 The lead writer has made some posts that would indicate he is one of many that were bizarrely fascinated with the mysterious circumstances of Elisa Lam's death, like, in an almost perverse way. And that is why he gets to much flack for it, because it comes off way more distasteful when it's pretty apparent Alex is set up to be a stand-in for the author. Yet the script later on is bizarrely self aware of it, because Claudio displays the obsession, trawling through message boards for these sort of mysterious disappearances, but immediately has to clarify that he's not getting off from it. In contrast, many crime dramas have written scenarios based on Lam's circumstances- Castle, for example- but they don't have a lead character acting like they 'should have been the one to save her' the way Alex is presented.
Brisson Kévin Actually from what I’ve gathered it isn’t a murder, it was a suicide, they found that the girl drowned herself, they said that it was possible she was having a psychotic episode which is why she was acting so strangely, so yeah it’s simply a suicide, not actually murder.
@@ryancarson6962 Really find it hard to believe it's suicide since she drowned in the hotel's water that she should never been able to have access to in the first place and she chose to drown instead of leaping from the roof where the water is stored if it was "simply a suicide."
Oh wow, I too, pronounce it "YICK".
But I throw up afterwards, speaking of which, EXCUSE M-
@@Mangakamen Holy shit, pretty cool man, I actually watched you way back during your GradeA vids, you were one of the people I remember calling him out on his bullshit before.
@@Mangakamen You too Mr. Kamen! 👌👌👌👌
This game looks like everything people hate hipsters
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My main issue with games like this is lack of self awareness. You see games like Space Funeral, Lisa The Painful, OFF and even Undertale have a hint of playfulness and comfort when relaying their messages and points. YIIK is like a long boring lecture about someone spouting off their knowledge in the most condescending way humanly possible. There's this idea that when writing NEVER talk down at the viewer as it makes them feel stupid and YIIK breaks this rule and scatters the pieces all over the place.
I agree, except there are no "messages". They are just games with fun stories.
@@drbuni All stories have a message? They're stories. It's literally impossible for them to not have messages. I haven't played SF (though I keep hearing about in YiiK comments, so gotta check that out), but all the other games have extremely strong themes about child-parent relationships ranging from neglect to straight up abuse. Like, it's absolutely wild for you to say what you said about these three games in particular, which all share *the same strong theming*
Captain Planet, Lord of the Rings, and The Matchstick Girl are all very different types of stories from different time periods, and they all have themes of energy conservation, and thus a message of energy conversation. How hard that theme is pushed as a message does differ, with Captain Planet obviously pushing the hardest on the Message Pedal. But it's important to not mistake "Not going full 80's cartoon on your messaging" as "Not having messaging".
But it has Post-Modern right in the title. That's telling anyone with even a 101 understanding or access to Wikipedia and ten minutes of free time to not expect to be comforted or taken care of the way all other forms of art do, and that any and all rules can and will be broken.
If you don't want that, that's fine! Makes sense! It's an extremely acquired taste. But YiiK goes out of its way to warn you about what's inside! It's like going to Dick's Last Resort and complaining that the wait staff was rude to you.
I would rather play another, better RPG game that starts off with an unlikable protagonist: World Ends With You!
And look, it came out on Switch!
EDIT: Oh! I forgot about Disgaea! I'll play that too!
Devilsblight86 Would you look at that, Assassin’s Creed IV’s out on Switch now!
The World End With You is a much. MUCH. Better rpg game than this....demonic occult thing that is Yiik.
Because this game is actually made by people who are competent !
People who know how to make a good game !
PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND HOW TO WRITE A GOOD STORY !
PEOPLE WHO-
*Okay I calm down*
@@ManagerBlackwood Play that one Seth looked at not too long ago.
Neku is a good example of an unlikeable protagonist because he is still sympathetic, you can understand why he acts so uncaring about those around him thus making the player connect with him. Alex on the other hand is unlikeable AND unsympathetic, there's no reason why he acts so self absorb besides the fact that he's just an asshole. (I'm surprised Rory didn't try to kill Alex)
There's also the fact that Neku develops throughout the game and becomes a much more caring person as it progresses, leading up to a certain scene near the end of the game. Alex barely changes at all. Neku is dynamic, and Alex is static.
Moral of the story: Go play TWEWY instead of YIIK.
Never found neku unlikable. His snarky remarks and how he roasted people in his head made me laugh, along with Joshua
MANGAKITTY?
You’ve had my curiousity, but *now* you have my full attention.
Look at the ears and the hat, I am pretty sure that that's a bat.
@@mattwo7 I thought they looked like bat ears as well.
@@Nekosage Can confirm: He replied to another comment. th-cam.com/video/ZTtUwL8hF-k/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgyQyHqivEz97D-i-7V4AaABAg.8z6IfzMGP7Y8z6KRSnJ8-K
mattwo7 Oh.
Well, it’s still cute.
He went full furry mode
Alex is when a neckbeard becomes an isekai protagonist.
Jacob Nacilla he’s the odd mixture of both
A TH-camr I love dunking on a game I love to hate? Sold!
Lel
Manga's Gone Furry. I can Feel the World Ending as we Speak.
...are you sure
Could be worse.
His name could be Hentaikamen
He used to have a MLP griffin fursona, not sure it was better or worse
He got better.
1. Is it just me, or does Michael look like MatPat?
2. And one of the worst things about this game is it’s reliance on explaining everything. Show-don’t-tell exists for a reason.
Worse than that in regard to 2) is that it's not that it talks too much explaining everything, but that it talks way too much about things that have nothing to do with the story, like the 15 minute cutscene about tea and Cludio's multiple tangents about anime in the middle of serious moments; or about completely obtuse technobabble that literally only makes sense to the character expositing and nobody else, like just about every time Vella has something to say. Though I think the most egregious is the bait and switch- after wasting hours of our time 'explaining' what is really happening, they reveal in the last seconds ALL of that was a character lying to you from the moment they started talking.
Honestly, he looks like a lot of people. Michael's design is so generic that he really looks more like an NPC than a party member.
@@gtf234 Everything you said is what makes YiiK an extremely solid Post-Modern art piece though. The whole point is that the game shows you the important details cloaked in visual metaphor, while constantly telling you all sorts of irrelevant garbage. It's a fun post-modern riff on difficulty in RPGs, where the difficulty comes not from the mechanical Game part (combat is long and tedious, but not difficult in the traditional sense), but from how difficult the RP part is, because it's truly difficult to stay with this insufferable character for so long and stay engaged enough to be able to sort the chaff and the lies from the few revelatory nuggets
Which is not going to be for everyone! That's a lot of work and pain for little reward, when you could be doing something that is actively trying to comfort or distract you instead. But some people are into that and that's why the game is clearly labeled as Post-Modern right in the title so people won't be surprised when they get a piece of hostile art that actively tries to dissuade the player from playing.
Post-Modernism is great because it offers something for people who enjoy its anti-convention flavours, but as you showed in your comment, a good Post-Modernist art piece can be helpful even for those who hate it and PM in general, because it provides a handy list of Don'ts for when making non-PM art.
@@pantslesswrock bruh why are you on every single comment i see on this video holy shit,now this is some next level dedication to defend an already forgotten game
@@randomperson093 Not defend, explain. There are all sorts of problems with YiiK that we never get to discuss because people don't even know what it's actually about! It's like being someone who wants to discuss the flaws and strengths of Memento, but can't because all anyone talks about is that the editing is confusing and out of order. Except movie goers either understood Memento or heard it was backwards and stayed away. No such luck with gamers I'm afraid.
Thanks! I was wondering when someone would notice 😉
I didn't knew about this game's existence until I saw your video, and even then I was confused, so I did some research and...
OH BOY! NOW I UNDERSTAND, and I'm speechless...
Oh no...
The Verlisify collar finally took affect.
In all seriousness though, great video man. :)
The what?
@@mixwidman5458 Verlisify collar, something that Kamen wore in his videos talking about a TH-camr by the name of "Verlisify".
I like how Christopher Niosi shouted-out this game on his channel since he he voiced the main character. It would’ve been hilarious if they update the game so that his voice-overs were swapped out with an voice actor because of his controversy.
Richioh It’s unlikely that would happen, this isn’t an official game backed by a powerful video game company, it’s an indie game that’s done by someone who isn’t well known, it’s severely unlikely they have the budget to redo all those lines for the character.
Ryan Carson I just thought it would’ve been insult to injury if Nintendo could cuck Christopher Niosi’s career even further.
What did the man do?
@@ryokiritani4187 I could be wrong but supposly sex abuse alligations
Byleth was replaced because he broke NDA and he has so little dialogue that his lines could be re-recorded in one afternoon. It had nothing to do with his controversy.
My sister told me about this game! She said it looked horrible. She was right.
I think the game actually looks quite good, it’s just that it’s horrible in nearly every other aspect lol.
I can't say much about the game itself since I haven't played it, but it's a shame to hear how the creator of the game reacted to the criticism he got, which seemed to have turned off most people who liked and defended the game.
Say what you will about Mighty No 9 (I don't have any problems with it), at least Inafune took the criticism he got to heart and admitted that he was at fault instead of going on a rant about how people are too stupid to understand how games is a form of art.
MN9 ended up being a massive shitshow of a project management problem and has likely ended any credibility and goodwill Inafune's name carried, but yeah, he at least took the fault for all of it as the one ultimately in charge and therefore responsible. For what it's worth, while it was nothing like what was promised and hyped, I still think MN9 at least plays and functions well- I enjoyed it for what it is; I can't say that about YIIK. It's too much of a slog to enjoy as is, divorced from the developer's attitude- just riddled with bad design ideas that take even 10 minutes playtesting to notice are mind numbingly boring or far too much effort for too little payoff. My favorite example is Claudio's most basic attack skill is a 30 second minigame that barely does anymore damage than his regular attack- that's way too long of a time to sit there for just one character action.
Yiik already had a lot of drama around it. The dev should know better not to pull a cool cat on you after being a punching bag for so long.
Yes you're talking about Yiik! Such a wasted potential of a game 😔
Loving the new avatar Kamen~
This was also a really good video, I honestly never heard of this game before now. I'm glad you covered it, while the graphics look nice. Some of the scenes are too much on my eyes, the really flashy ones, this also just doesn't seem like the type of Rpg I'd play. 😊
Apparently the mixing-up the sex of the cat was a deliberate indication that something was wrong and was supposed to be a plot point, but that wasn't communicated very well.
The game is *filled* with inconsistencies setting up the reveal that this is all in Alex's head. In the first thirty minutes alone, Michael references his childhood as happening while he was in high school, a stuffed toy unpacked from a box talks, the town is a hodge-podge of clashing art styles, you can fight Web 2.0 gifs like that dancing stop sign you used to see on In Construction sites, and half of Sammy's dialogue conflicts with the other half of Sammy's dialogue (almost like talking with her in the game is a clear metaphor for stumbling upon her story in 4chan and reading through all the many different inconsistent theories about what kind of person she was) - and that's all in the first few minutes of a game that LITERALLY HAS POST-MODERN IN THE TITLE. If you want your plot and mysteries spoon-fed to you like in other genres, then try literally anything not clearly labeled with "Hey, this narrative is going to be dense and confusing, none of the important details will be told but hours will be spent on irrelevant details, and you'll have to experience it three or four times before it starts to click" RIGHT IN THE TITLE
I MEAN 4CHAN IS LITERALLY REPRESENTED IN THE GAME AS A TOXIC WASTE FACTORY THE GAME ISN'T BEING SUBTLE ABOUT ITS MESSAGING
People like you are why they are making Alex even more insufferable in the update. When the world has to suffer through Alex singing karaoke about his toxic internet-forum-inspired obsession with a dead woman, you are who I will blame.
Should’ve called this game YEET because that’s what I’m gonna do to it
So this game is like that webcomic you only read for the art instead of the writing.
Scott pilgrim doea the "unlikable/terrible protagonist" much better. Mostly since in the final act, scott realizes he's been a shitty shit and works to make amends where he can in tge epilogue. True his friends never outright leave him but even kim starts to treat him more favoribly when the big reveal happens.
My sides left orbit when you showed Quinton after saying 'being lonely'.
I kind of honestly feel like the graphics probably could use some improvement but I can't quite put my finger on it, I think it's because the colors are too flat and/or the graphics need outlines.
YIIK is Painful To play i Couldn't Play it for more than 30-60 Minutes at most before wanting to burn this horrid Abomination that they dare call a game
"Pokemon Sword and Shield will be the worst rpg for the Switch"
Me: Hold my Yiiks
Bruno Linares More like hold my comments.
It’s not even comparable
Love or hate SwSh but you have to admit that YiiK is just the bottom of RPGs and nothing comes close to it
i never get tired of videos clowning on this game. I wishlisted it on steam i hope one day I can stream on twitch and hate-play it while streaming and tearing it apart for it's MANY faults should be fun.
What do you mean? Who doesn’t love reviews on irrelevant games? There’s a nerd that makes a living from it!
brandon roberts Exactly
@brandon roberts true words
Your character is adorable! ^^;
@@Mangakamen What's his name?
@@autobotstarscream765 I wanna know that too and if we'll get to see more of him
It’s like a furry Jotaro. Oh also this game looks broken and tone deaf to hell.
Tone deaf is an understatement. Putting aside the clip used here, of Alex yelling at a Rory that he doesn't care that Rory's sister was bullied into suicide, just before that grinding the game to a dead stop while Vella infodumps (all obtuse metaphysical nonsense too btw) for 10 minutes while a seemingly menacing and invincible boss just stands there waiting for her to finish yapping. You'd think this was supposed to be a tense and dangerous moment just before that....then it segues into a fight with a gold alpaca that attacks by shouting LEMONADE! at you with a goofy bgm.
gtf234 You never read my comments on the “How’d this game get made?” video, have you?
The worst part about the monologue is how in depth he goes with it. How much is being explained from his own interpretation rather than whats going on. The strong disconnect from whats actually happening rather than what is.
holy shit
"The strong disconnect between what is actually happening and what is"
You just succinctly and accurately labeled what YiiK is intentionally doing to prime you for the reveal that the house and the town and Michael and Vella and more are all in Alex's mind, fragmented ghosts of his past unwittingly conjured up to soothe his isolation as he considers whether or not to kill himself for being such an unlikeable piece of shit
You got the vibe that the game was trying to impart on you, the game and you succeeded at communicating, and then you labeled that successful interaction as "the worst part"
Incredible
Ooooooh... New avatar.... And one hell of a video to boot! :D
from bone boi to bat? interesting.. but we gotta give this bat an engine.. this will be a BEST MATCH!!! anyway nice to see you spicing things up a bit kamen :)
The robot looks like Aigis and Metis' burnout sister, Mentholis.
2:28 Quinton reviews still in the trash
Most of this could simply be fixed by altering the execution a bit. A shame, considering it seems like it has potential with it's ideas.
YIIK rhymes with ick!
From what I can tell (and I have the game on Steam but haven't had time to play it); it actually has nothing to do with postmodernism, like at all xD
But it's hands down the MOST Post-Modern game of its length ever made? Post-Modernism is an expression of pain and betrayal at how the previously noble Science and Art were twisted into the greatest exercise of mass human death in three history of the planet. Post-Modernism is inherently about questioning all assumptions about art, such as pacing, taste, legibility, importance, and mechanics.
People often go on and on about all the many things YiiK does that are non-standard, or "wrong" by conventional definitions. Generally art wants to draw you in, and the skill of the artist is measured by how well their art ensnares you. But Post-Modernism inherently wants to push the audience away and hurt them. Because Post-Modernism saw how good art that effectively draws in the viewer was turned into propaganda fueling a planet-wide decline in the male population - and it would rather punish you and fill you with pain now, so maybe you'll be spared the surprising and far more physical pain that they went through.
YiiK constantly lies to you, it forces you to acknowledge and grapple with concerns of narrative and game design most other art pieces are trying to hide from you for a more pleasant experience, it does hilarious subverting of every aspect of what makes JRPG combat and level up systems compelling, flowy, and fun, it is very difficult to know what's going on in the story without experiencing it multiple times, and it generally is mired in pain, a pain it wants you to experience as well.
It's Post-Modern as hell. Unlike all the Mother-likes or even something like The Beginner's Guide or Pathologic, it is not good conventional art that's trying to be a good consumer product but with a little Post-Modern spice, it's a solid brick of Post-Modern Vegemite that you have to chew through. It's neither fun nor rewarding, but it is an experience. Post-Modernism!
MANGA KITTY
MANGA KITTY
Kitty Kamen
Le bones where is skull is he alive again 🤯 also I think I heard of the game though I am a fan of the rpg style I really don't see anything that would drag me into this game tobia honest
For some reason I thought this was the game with the y2k orphans scene
Did I just hear yuri of the wind?!?!
2:15 Yuka amd layya should be standing in the corner with mighty number 9
4:32 yuriofwind wtf
14:08 bootleg foo fighters? How dare YtooK steal from KING NOTHING'S CALIFORNIA KING BED SIZED ADVENTURE. No dignity
You were right...
Yuriofwind, one of my favorite youtubers voices in this game as Rory...
@Kaiser Weeb His voice seems to be for sarcastic or jabby remarks, especially in his creepypasta related videos.
While yeah his voice could use work, there is potential I believe.
Not even Crazy Diamond can restore your dignity.
@@impossibletetriz563 what the frick did you just say to me?
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 i was adding to the joke.
I think this is the first mainstream TH-camr I've seen talking about this game.
@@Mangakamen well you're more mainstream then Diacorn SA.
A mess would imply that it could be cleaned up and improved.
Oooh! Kumori Kamen’s big debut! I was looking forward to this.
Local parasite becomes the most important entity in the whole multiverse, holds a relationship with a sex robot, fights with a record.
Hoo boy, those YIIK references in “VA-11 Hall-A: Cyberpunk Bartender Action” did NOT age well! (Btw, you should totally check out that game instead of YIIK, it’s on Steam and Nintendo Switch ;) )
I'm gonna help bump this up for anybody rewatching this video
That game is amazing
MapleMilk I absolutely love it! Who would you say is your favorite character?
@@EliseArainai I'm not good with names but that Idol chick stood out to me
They give such integration into the "background" of the game
Like you can read about her live shows and her fans and stuff
I also love her design
MapleMilk that sounds like Kira Miki, and I don’t blame you; she was a sweetheart! I’m a fan of Sei myself, and I love her friendship with the catgirl Stella
@@EliseArainai Also can we talk about that soundtrack?
Easily one of the best soundtracks in any game of the 2010s
It captures that Cyberpunk aesthetic so well
Especially because you get to set it every session
I love it
There are some things I enjoy shitting on. This game is one of them.
Also, it isn’t pronounced yiik?
Grandmaster Tactician Randy certainly way better than the actual name Y2K which is just horribly cringey as a title. XD
Yiikes
Y'know, I was thinking of doing some dumb little dark Persona fan game on RPG Maker or something, but I told myself the idea was dumb
Then I found out this game was real and people paid money for it, and suddenly it didn't feel like such a dumb idea anymore
YIIK didn't lower the bar, it buried the bar. You would have to actively try to make your game bad to go lower 😂
wait people are still talking about this game I mean the only good thing about it is the song Toby Fox wrote the rest is a dumpster fire
That chest hair's got nothing on Will Powers. Dear God that man's body hair is terrifying.
We say show don't tell, but this game be living in 3019 showing AND telling.
So... I'll just say it, Yu-Gi-Oh! Eyes
the other thing about disagea character sis that they're jerks...because they're all demons and even then most of them are pretty much just tryign to act 'evil' and end up just looking childish and bratty, and often many of them do have good qualities where many of the worst villains are utter scumbags. Also, valvatorez is a treasure and must be protected.
basically theere's a POINT to the characers being all jerks, or at least a reason, while YIIK's protag is just...an asshole.
I think watching TH-camrs trash on YIIK is another genre of entertainment.
Is... Is this the new skull design? Ummm I have no complaints, just surprised faces
So Kamen became a furry? XD
Fine with me.
I um. Explain this: 10:20 Out of all examples...
Digging the new Avatar Kamen! :D
It's like Gart Marengi's Dark Place in videogame format... and this one completly serious with it's pretenciosnece.
My room is also just made out of a wall of aluminium cannedge
Does anyone think of Peter Parker when looking at Micheal
YIIk is not like to other games, because it's so QWERKY!
Not even the RIGHT kind of quirky.
The title sounds like JonTron throwing up.
Ech
Kamen Rider Chaser is a precious boy.
When I saw the trailer for this game, I was super excited about it. The art style was really unique and the setting with the limited story presented really drew me in. Not to mention that Toby Fox was credited for the music. I really wanted this game to be good. Then I saw all the reviews about what a pretentious mess the game is and how the main character is an insufferable asshole that makes it hard to play through. I decided not to waste my money, and based on this review as well, I'm glad I didn't. I'm still a bit bummed about all the wasted potential though.
One thing I think that should be addressed when people try to defend Alex as a character/protagonist...
You know Kurono from Gantz?
You know Cain from Drakengard?
You know Shinji from Evangelion?
You know Guts from Berserk?
You know Johnny Joestar from Jojo's Bizarre Adventures: Part 7 (Steel Ball Run)?
If the answer for all the questions is yes the...
Manga cat is cute
Idk Quinton’s person is very wishy washy with how he acts. Even his content projects it but at the same time he does make some pretty interesting videos minus one or two. It’s a situation where you can’t separate the two but you kinda have to , man I’m rambling
Average person: What a strange game, I wonder why it’s so bad.
Me: *Staring intensely while hula hooping* “Allow me to show you, traveller. A game where Weeb Katana guy should have been the main character, the basic combat should have existed and the story less trying hard to be convoluted. Hula hoop with me.”
Ngl I would have been happy if the game had just straight up ripped off of SMRPG/Paper Mario's active/timed hits instead of the clunkfest of combat minigames
Saturday Morning RPG is a decent alternative for a reference-infested, Paper Mario-inspired battle system title.
Play the games Citizens of Earth and Citizens of Space, they are much better homages to Earthbound than YIIK (Y2K)
I just realised that this came out on my birthday fuck
Minor point of criticism to the video, it might have been a better idea to use footage from Paper Mario that's past the tutorial area since you can't do the action commands until then, or use TTYD footage since you can always use the action commands.
hmmmmmmm? you have me curious, what did shammy do? i thought he was a good boi
I think other games should adopt the artstyle of Y2k. If pixel art can make a comeback, so can low poly.
People hate on Rory's voice acting... I wont lie yeah he had REALLY BAD lines but YuriOfWind (yes YuriofWind is Rory) did well with what he had to work with
This video makes me vibrate with motion.
I shit you not, I have a friend that bears an uncanny resemblance to Alex.
Oof you are going through this painful mess of a game. The only good thing about it is the battle music TobyFox made. Tbh, I actually enjoyed Mighty #9 more than I should've love
Toby's talents were wasted...
I acutally thought Mn9 was good.
Not amazing, just good.
I never heard of this game at all till now.
I have, especially all the clips Rugginton posted. This game really is a hilarious mess.
ah so THIS is the furry origins of Manga's first encounter with his arch enemy, ALEX
Who took the form of BRODY in Life Is Strange 2
small correction: Mother 3 is Earthbound's sequel
Undertale/Deltarune, Omori, and Lisa The Painful do what all of YIIK tries to do, but better.
6:37
Is that mat pat.
Like, the dude with the camera.
Wow, you only just caught up to this? I thought you'd decided not to bother with it when it came out...!
From a skeleton to a fury. What has the world come to?
Are you a final boss in a video game? Why do you have so many different forms?
6:54
Is that the Jellyfish Fields theme from Battle For Bikini Bottom?
I was looking for a paper Mario game but I could only find one costing 700$ so I said hell no I ain’t buying it, and forgot to check any other store afterwards.
Mother 3 is a different game than earthbound (it's the sequel)
"I certainly didn't think I'd be sitting here after school making TH-cam videos that'll probably get less views than the number of brain cells I have"
Considering the average human brain has 100 billion cells, that's pretty likely.