@@vgernyc from what i have seen my self, even on ryzen, the limiting factor is windows, because ryzen is faster in everything ( gaming and productivity ) on linux
@@user-hh5pj5jv8p its less ass than for intel. Intel might have reduced power consumption but at the same time lost performance and changed the socket. AMD atleast reduced Power consumption while having the same performance (with some gains) and staying on the same socket
It's nice on AMD, they have been killing it for some time now. I switched my gaming laptop to them a few years back and it's solid. And u get "battery" life
where have you been? 5600x and then 5800x3d beat everything by far. Ryzen 3600 already crushed intel for value. 9000 is "meh" at best, even 7000 wasnt that great.
@@NikalaiLol while sure tbf, basically nobody still does (or arguably ever did) actually play it as a game, Ashes is a VERY good representative benchmark of a properly well-threaded CPU intensive DirectX 12 native game! You can extrapolate a shocking amount about other modern CPU & esp. thread heavy games' potential performance from seeing Ashes' perf. 🤷
@@theorphanobliterator DLSS isn't the problem - closed proprietary features locked behind expensive paywalls is the problem. It's good, it's moved the tech sphere forward, and now AMD with FSR 4 (with AI) coming in the future & Intel already getting on that train can only mean good things going forward imo
As someone who was an Intel fan. I got the 265k, took many tries to get windows installed and then once installed fortnite wouldn't load or crashed. I took it back and now have a 9900x. I'm getting the 9800x3d for my gaming rig as well. Sorry Intel time to jump ship until you can do better.
@alo0ann for practical answers we have to wait for reviews, but theoretically: moving additional 3d memory from the top to the bottom should lead to higher clock frequencies and boosts, since the hotter component (cores) are now closer to ihs, making cooling them easier
@@-average You do realize AMD isn't making a flagship card in this new 8000 series. He clearly wants the best of the best and has the money, so nothing wrong with buying the 5090. No other GPU will compete with it when it comes out for years when AMD isn't even close to touching the 4090.
I'd expect to see a 7800x3d at $400 now, but even then why would you buy it at that price when it was $350 a couple of months ago, you missed the boat if you wanted a cheap x3d chip.
@@lharsay from what ive seen its still being manufactured. they just stopped producing as many because zen 5 isnt selling well and because the uplift isnt all that great. i think the fact they keep coming out with zen 3 models shows they still want to support zen 4 for longer.
It amazing to see how AMD is achieving what just a few years back was listed as "future technological advances" in the presentations at our University. And now its already hitting the market, ready for the consumer.
@@j.m4a1 Electrical engineering with specialisation in microelectronics. Its a common specialisation here in germany, even though we dont design a lot of integrated chips, we do design some, mostly analogue or mixed-signal ones.
Nice, a month ago I decided to upgrade my system and as I was planning out my parts there were rumors of this releasing soon so this is coming at the perfect time for me.
@@alrecks619 I heard the rumor said they might be announced at CES 2025 and released in Q1 2025. I wish for February because I don't want to wait too long. My 6700K is beginning to rot and I can feel it
I was always an Intel guy, ever since my first PC, in 2006. My current build was made in 2016 and is powered by an i5 6600K. But after so many years, recent games barely run anymore. I'm upgrading when the new RTX 5090 comes out, but my CPU will totally be AMD this time around. The reign of Intel on CPUs has fallen after three consecutive failed generations.
@@JFinns Compiling, Rendering, Video transcoding, Simulations, ... usually all Cores are maxed out and it's running into the power limit with slightly reduced boost clocks.
Then just get 285k it's superior for these workloads. Actually x3d performs eve worse then non-x3d version for the said workloads. X3d is beneficial only to gaming.
The 9900X3D and 9950X3D will apparently have the cache on both CCDs so the whole chip will have access to V-cache. The cache is now under the chip now as well so you can cool the chip better allowing for higher clock speeds. It is likely that these chips will be better than the 7000X3D parts for rendering and gaming
I not long ago dropped a 5700X3D into my B550 motherboard and got an awesome gaming upgrade - I didn't want to jump on the AM5 bandwagon imediately because quite frankly I didn't need to! If this is approx 10% better than the 7800X3D then an upgrade may be in my future, and my 5700X3D will go in my partners gaming machine for a free upgrade from her 5600 (non x) Amazing to see this from AMD after all the hardships of the past. Now, if only we can have a 'Ryzen' moment with the Radeon group, eh ;)
@@jeanytpremium I know right? People keep praising the 7800X3D when the 7950X3D is only like 3% slower and in productivity it slaps hard. It's the best CPU for both gaming and productivity.
I am a proud owner of the 1st gen x3d chip, the 5800x3d. suffice to say, my next upgrade will still be an x3d chip. excited to see what options I have in the next 3-5 years.
Next level-up in gaming is apparently only worth 8%. I'm more interested in how the 9950X3D will function with gaming now that all of its cores will benefit from the V-cache, but I really don't want to wait another two and a half months to build a PC.
@@alrecks619 Good for those who care about that. Not so much who are building gaming specific PCs. I mean, 8% better still makes it currently "the best" CPU for gaming, but it's still not what most were hoping for.
@@galoriin5538 We'll see how much heat it produces and if it's even worth it. I know something like the Phantom Spirit 120 Evo can cool even an overclocked 14900K at 225w load, but I'm not interested in having to hear an airplane just to keep an OC cooled. This video is a bit misleading too. They mention that it "can be" overclocked, but do not say whether or not the comparisons they were doing vs Intel, or if their own benchmarks were at stock speeds, or with an OC.
@@Neonmirrorblack stock unless mentioned in the fine print, which it isn't, it runs regular settings. nobody wants to do the Intel path, that cost them big time when they got caught using a chiller.
Was waiting for Arrow Lake but then it turned out to be awful so i'm getting this instead. 8% is not a big increase but at least it's an increase and not a gaming decrease like Arrow Lake.
For 9000 series AMD hype it - flop For Intel 15gen Intel hype it - flop For x3d AMD hype it - TBD So hold your brake before you lunch so fast calling it increase tho
This will be my first AMD processor, I have seen there is some potential along the way for the new intels to be overclocked but i dont have the time to wait. upgrading from 8700k
@@awaiswasi354 My bestie is on a 1st gen Ryzen so he's well overdue an upgrade, along with giving him the 7800XD I've already got some ram and a B650 mobo I managed to get on a deal ready to go for his build.
Ryzen 9800X3D is a great example of an amazing processor with a bad price. When you get more performance for a new release or generation for the same price this is progress and innovation. When corporations raise prices for greedy profits and justify them only by a small increase in performance it is bad, this is stagnation. The market proved many times that when choosing quick profits over progress, new competitors will emerge and overtake them sooner or later. Milking customers is a bad recipee to progress and innovation and It seems that AMD chose to copy Intel and nvidia on the bad side too often, especially when you want to increase your market share.
While I agree with you... it's hardly AMD's fault. Why would they need to bother? Their only CPU competitors are Intel, Apple, and Qualcomm. Intel? Can't stop shooting their foot. Apple? Some of those customers wouldn't pick AMD anyway while the others want the ARM efficiency. Regardless, has nothing to do with gaming. Qualcomm? Rocky start to Windows, with ARM breathing down their neck and jeopardizing potential future releases. AMD has no incentive. Why pour resources into "establishing a lead over competition" when there is none? Why "increase market share" anyway when they're _dominating_ the valuable datacenter market?
@@moldyshishkabob Agree with you too, and I see how this strategy is working, also I see how this AMD "strategy" will bite them back because it is working for AMD against Intel, and in the same time is working for Nvidia against AMD. AMD will never capture more vidoecard market share with this "strategy". Thus, AMD better give customers more performance for the right or the best price, and more people will buy AMD processors, and also will start buying more AMD videocards too.
I'm glad the message is more 'forefront of innovation' than adjustment for mid range market. Keep up the high flying vibes with AMD's CPU. Hopefully we still get a high end AMD GPU next generation. Great presentation Jack 👌
Thank you AMD for improving constantly your products, in a wonderfully consumer friendly and open source way. Please never change your core principles, and you'll always have a ton of satisfied consumers by your side.
@user-hh5pj5jv8p I'm talking about the general way of working amd has, the 7800x3d is a beast for gaming. Their gpu have very good performance for the price, and open source drivers, upscaling technology not locked on their cards (like Nvidia does). AI what? XD
Thank you AMD ❤️❤️❤️ Iam still on the i7 4790k and guess what my next CPU will be? Starts with 9, followed by 8, followed by Intel fucked and followed by 00x3D.
Ryzen 7 7800x3d it's the best gaming processor on the market and intel does not stand close. If you buying PC for a gaming there is only one choice. 8 Cores for gaming is more than enough
Damn.. not only is AMD's gaming performance gap getting bigger, but the games they sponsor are much better too! Warhammer is a massive upgrade from games like Godfall!
It's actually already a thing with the 7945HX3D, probably not that common due to the power consumption, heat and TDP limits will effect how much performance increase you can get from a mobile package.
Imagine paying $480 for an 8-core CPU in 2024. A 245k with Cudimm will trade blows/lose by 5% in gaming, while delivering 10-20% more performance in multithreaded applications. It will also cost $180-$200 less, which is a whole GPU tier. 9800x3d isn't for gamers, its for fringe enthusiasts that play at 1080p with a 4090.
Give it a rest. They benchmark with an RX 7900XTX and the whole Internet dunks on them for not using "teh moast powerfuul GePeUh evah". So they do now, and people complain that it's not their product? Should Intel do their benchmarks on Arc from now on? No? Didn't think so!
That doesn’t really say anything about their GPUs other than that they aren’t as performative as a 4090…you do realize that every single gpu in existence is worse than the 4090 in terms of performance right? Not everyone spends $1,600 on a gpu so for everyone else you would be picking between the options below that which includes both AMD and nvidia cards depending on which price range you are going for. In a cpu comparison, it makes sense to use the highest level gpu because it will show the maximum fps that a cpu can achieve. I also love how you were detailed enough to read the fine print at the end but couldn’t be bothered to use basic logic…
3:01 no idea how an upcoming processor has any influence on the games Saber Interactive creates, but sure. Gotta squeeze that marketing deal in your 4 minute presentation I guess. 3:44 what innvation? It's team green that pioneered ML-based upscaling and frame generation, with AMD always following in their footsteps.
*MAY OUR FRAMRATES BE HIGH AND OUR TEMPERATURES LOW*
AMEN
@@farzan1958 Amen
Amen
AMEN
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I feel like they just waited until the train wreck that Intel calls the 285k was out, so they could update their graphs
marketing 101
Probably because they heard it's even worst at gaming than last gen. Smart move.
From what I have seen, the real issue may be Windows 11. Linux based benchmarks tell a different story.
@@vgernyc lol yeah, but Linux means nothing for the vast majority of purchases
@@vgernyc from what i have seen my self, even on ryzen, the limiting factor is windows, because ryzen is faster in everything ( gaming and productivity ) on linux
Thanks Steve... oh, wait, wrong channel
1:52 Shots fired at Intel
I don't get why they everything they did this generation is also ass for AMD
@@user-hh5pj5jv8p its less ass than for intel.
Intel might have reduced power consumption but at the same time lost performance and changed the socket.
AMD atleast reduced Power consumption while having the same performance (with some gains) and staying on the same socket
Yeah, Arrow Lake seems to be completely broken in Cyberpunk, to be fair that game had come out before Intel introduced the hybrid core architecture.
the latest intel cpus feel like they're not designed for gaming
@@SlimeCore_ the power consumption was reduced but not by enough to justify the price increase. Overall you're paying more for the same
I'm going back to AMD for the first time since Athlon 64! Socket 754 gang represent
It's nice on AMD, they have been killing it for some time now. I switched my gaming laptop to them a few years back and it's solid. And u get "battery" life
Dude said 8% improvement i wish id got a 7800x3d...
@@ilbro7874 diminishing returns bro
where have you been? 5600x and then 5800x3d beat everything by far.
Ryzen 3600 already crushed intel for value.
9000 is "meh" at best, even 7000 wasnt that great.
@@ilbro7874 I guess they will sell 7800x3d again. And I hope they will
Guys if you are wondering the price on 9800x3d is 479$USD
*cries in german Taxes (19%)*
@@Foxfreud at least you guys have mindfactory that is comparable to Newegg, here in Croatia is 25%tax and prices are outrageously high
@@FoxfreudCalifornians pay ~8%. More if you live in certain cities.
@@Foxfreud cries in Brazilian taxes (~46%)
@@Foxfreudshh, lower than where I come from (uk) and much lower than Hungary (27%)
I just hope scalpers don't take all the stock on release.
It's up to AMD deliver the supply more than scalpers can handle so that they are the last ones holding the bag.
didn't even seen a cpu to be scalped, truly a generation of all time
Simple way to combat scalpers... don't buy from them. Eventually they'll run out of money and be sat on stock they can't sell.
@@DicehunterSC which they will promptly return for a full refund and lose nothing.
@@rustyshackleford7200 Places put restrictions on returns to fight this most of the time.
I'll be going from 6700K to 9800X3D. This should be interesting...
I went from 9900 to 5800x3d, everything feels smoother now coz better 1% lows
I'm in the same boat. My 6700K has been a beast for so long but it's showing its age lately.
@@youarijitroy Intel became so irrelevant i thought you were talking about the r9 9900x 😭
thats a leap!
Biiig jump, brother! Kudos!
I can really see this guy sitting there playing Hogwarts Legacy for hours, and not just reading the script telling him that he's personally played it.
Ashes of The Singularity, though...
How do you do fellow gamers!!
Hes been playing Ashe's of the benchmark for days now 😂 @@Nikalai
@@Nikalai If he’s a hardware engineer he probably spends countless hours running that benchmark. Lol
@@NikalaiLol while sure tbf, basically nobody still does (or arguably ever did) actually play it as a game, Ashes is a VERY good representative benchmark of a properly well-threaded CPU intensive DirectX 12 native game! You can extrapolate a shocking amount about other modern CPU & esp. thread heavy games' potential performance from seeing Ashes' perf. 🤷
This will be my first AMD build for me to use as my main rig. Time to retire the 11700k.
Same here except im coming from i9-9900k. Gunna be a fun time!
ML based FSR, wow. Thats the game changer.
wasn't it the amd fanboys who were hating on ML based dlss less than a year ago?
@@theorphanobliteratorI doubt it
@@Zentrify i dont because it's all over every amd forum
@Zentrify r/amd is full of it, if you aren't finding it then you aren't looking
@@theorphanobliterator DLSS isn't the problem - closed proprietary features locked behind expensive paywalls is the problem.
It's good, it's moved the tech sphere forward, and now AMD with FSR 4 (with AI) coming in the future & Intel already getting on that train can only mean good things going forward imo
Going back to AMD for the first time since AMD K6-2. It was a long journey next to the blue team but we need to consider our relationship.
I'm in the same boot as you! It is time to go with new and fresh wallpaper. Kind of exciting....
casually drops ml based fsr.....
Only 3 years late to the party
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator 2019 so 5 years minimum
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator true but better than nothing
1:40 ashes of the singularity is one of his favourite games, lol, yeah sure bud
LoL. I was about to comment that. Coincidentally all of his favorite games are the ones with most gains in performance 😂
@@CasualGamers I don't think anyone has ever played it, only bench marked it
As someone who was an Intel fan. I got the 265k, took many tries to get windows installed and then once installed fortnite wouldn't load or crashed. I took it back and now have a 9900x. I'm getting the 9800x3d for my gaming rig as well. Sorry Intel time to jump ship until you can do better.
They have gaming rugs now? Crazy world we live in…
why not the 9950x or 9950x3d? any particular reason?
Gaming rug lol
@@jeanytpremium I'd guess the first thing that comes to mind - price. And 9950x3d is not out yet, to boot.
9800x3D for fortnite? Lol
Bro, this dude brings back memories. Quake 2 and 3 tournaments.
Yeah, Tim is so likable too 😊
So the rumors were true, 3d memory was flipped in 9000x3d
What does that lead to?
@alo0ann for practical answers we have to wait for reviews, but theoretically: moving additional 3d memory from the top to the bottom should lead to higher clock frequencies and boosts, since the hotter component (cores) are now closer to ihs, making cooling them easier
@@alo0ann Ability to overclock and higher frenquencies
@@hopin8krzys Also those caches are more temperature sensitive so also part of the reason why it can now go to higher.
@@alo0ann Higher clocks speeds, higher TDP and the ability to overclock them just like regular Zen 5 CPUs.
*adds to cart*
Definitely going to buy this in 15 years when I can afford it. For now, My Ryzen 3 4300G makes me feel like I have the fastest PC in the fn world
You should get a 5600 they sell for £120 I have one it's bloody brilliant I came from a 3600 and I saw some improvement
@@dnakatomiukprobably no if only building it first time but upgrading from older gen ryzen am4 then yes.
Can't wait for the new AMD CPU + 8000 GPU combo
I'll wait for a 9950X3D / RTX5090 combo.
@psour33 Giving money to a money hungry corporation that doesn't care one bit about you. Good for you!
@@psour33 People like you can't afford a 5090. You just like to comment nonsense
@@-average You do realize AMD isn't making a flagship card in this new 8000 series. He clearly wants the best of the best and has the money, so nothing wrong with buying the 5090. No other GPU will compete with it when it comes out for years when AMD isn't even close to touching the 4090.
Red cpu + green gpu best combo
Hope it makes the 7800x3d cheaper now
Nah, it's not being manufactured anymore and the leftover supply is apparently really small.
I'd expect to see a 7800x3d at $400 now, but even then why would you buy it at that price when it was $350 a couple of months ago, you missed the boat if you wanted a cheap x3d chip.
nah u should of got it when it was 330
@@lharsay from what ive seen its still being manufactured. they just stopped producing as many because zen 5 isnt selling well and because the uplift isnt all that great. i think the fact they keep coming out with zen 3 models shows they still want to support zen 4 for longer.
7800X3D wont be manufactured anymore. 9800X3D is the replacement.
It amazing to see how AMD is achieving what just a few years back was listed as "future technological advances" in the presentations at our University. And now its already hitting the market, ready for the consumer.
like what?
yeah, like what?
Flip Chip technology for example and cache below compute to improve thermal conductivity between Cpu core and heatspreader.
@@OutOfRangeDEwhat class were you taking where you were learning this
@@j.m4a1 Electrical engineering with specialisation in microelectronics. Its a common specialisation here in germany, even though we dont design a lot of integrated chips, we do design some, mostly analogue or mixed-signal ones.
Nice, a month ago I decided to upgrade my system and as I was planning out my parts there were rumors of this releasing soon so this is coming at the perfect time for me.
2:00 **crying voice** STOOOP, THEY ARE ALREADY DEAD
literally
i won't ever trust anything amd says after their RX 7000 performance claims, lets see what the 3rd party benchmarks turn out
8% Is kil 'ing INTEL to you?
@@doctorfresh3856 8% was for 7800x3d, its 20% for intel
@@romanott3149 All it needs to beat intel is to not be worse than 7800x3d. AMD is laready on top.
Starting with the trailer for the CPU - good job guys. And your numbers look good as well.
My 6700K is calling AMD for the first time. Just bring 9950X3D to the market pls. I need a lot of power for games and works
they'll probably be in next year, gotta ramp up the production first.
@@alrecks619 I heard the rumor said they might be announced at CES 2025 and released in Q1 2025. I wish for February because I don't want to wait too long. My 6700K is beginning to rot and I can feel it
It's running on Zen 5, I've heard rumors of it being very fast in multi threaded. (Like 14700k ish)
@@KarazP fellow skylake, I just recently upgraded from 6600k to 7800x3d
you clearly dont need it if you still have a 6700k
I was always an Intel guy, ever since my first PC, in 2006. My current build was made in 2016 and is powered by an i5 6600K. But after so many years, recent games barely run anymore. I'm upgrading when the new RTX 5090 comes out, but my CPU will totally be AMD this time around. The reign of Intel on CPUs has fallen after three consecutive failed generations.
actually 12th gen was very good
13th gen was ok
14th gen is actually better than 13th except for the I9 part
1:52 It's actually exact 23% if you do the math but still... big shots fired at Intel.
20% on 40 games, not the few cherrypicked shown
Yea and 5-10% faster than the 7800x3d as it's 15% faster than the 285k already. Explains the 7800x3d price hike to make the 9800x3d more appealing.
Far Cry 6 and Ashes of the Singularity are two of Jack's favorite games.
Please make the 9950X3D awesome. I‘m still on 5950X because I game and work in equal parts on my workstation.
They will eventually, can't imagine what you're doing that can use a CPU with 32 threads though. Just get a 9950X.
@@JFinns Compiling, Rendering, Video transcoding, Simulations, ... usually all Cores are maxed out and it's running into the power limit with slightly reduced boost clocks.
Then just get 285k it's superior for these workloads. Actually x3d performs eve worse then non-x3d version for the said workloads. X3d is beneficial only to gaming.
The 9900X3D and 9950X3D will apparently have the cache on both CCDs so the whole chip will have access to V-cache. The cache is now under the chip now as well so you can cool the chip better allowing for higher clock speeds. It is likely that these chips will be better than the 7000X3D parts for rendering and gaming
Did he just say that he was PLAYING Ashes of the Singularity? :v
AND it was his favorite game!
@@ishimarukenta007 That's truly fascinating
my reaction haha
I'm upgrading from 7600x to 9800x3d for battlefield 128 player modes!
2:42 Thanks Jack
Back to you Jack
I not long ago dropped a 5700X3D into my B550 motherboard and got an awesome gaming upgrade - I didn't want to jump on the AM5 bandwagon imediately because quite frankly I didn't need to!
If this is approx 10% better than the 7800X3D then an upgrade may be in my future, and my 5700X3D will go in my partners gaming machine for a free upgrade from her 5600 (non x)
Amazing to see this from AMD after all the hardships of the past.
Now, if only we can have a 'Ryzen' moment with the Radeon group, eh ;)
I'm a proud owner of ryzen 9 7950x3d that works great for me ....Thank you AMD !!!
that's actually the best CPU but people are failing realizing it
@@jeanytpremiumit’s better for productivity but slightly worse for gaming compared to the 7800x3d
@@jeanytpremium I know right? People keep praising the 7800X3D when the 7950X3D is only like 3% slower and in productivity it slaps hard. It's the best CPU for both gaming and productivity.
I am a proud owner of the 1st gen x3d chip, the 5800x3d.
suffice to say, my next upgrade will still be an x3d chip. excited to see what options I have in the next 3-5 years.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
Amd needs a sheep like you
@@hasiktak1544 go back to destroyed cpus, boi.
8 whole percentage of improvement! Kek.
@@AkaiSuzume Over their own.
This guy would've preordered the 285K 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Always on green team since the days of the K6, now rocking a 5800X3D and watching the presentation of my future CPU 😎
Surely those benchmark numbers are accurate this time?
I want an amazing 9000G processor where I don't need to wory about how expensive GPUs are anymore.
Next level-up in gaming is apparently only worth 8%.
I'm more interested in how the 9950X3D will function with gaming now that all of its cores will benefit from the V-cache, but I really don't want to wait another two and a half months to build a PC.
well you can overclock the 9800x3d so i really want to see what the extreme overclockers of the world can do with that
8% in gaming but you don't lose productivity performance when compared to 7800X3D vs 7700X.
@@alrecks619 Good for those who care about that. Not so much who are building gaming specific PCs. I mean, 8% better still makes it currently "the best" CPU for gaming, but it's still not what most were hoping for.
@@galoriin5538 We'll see how much heat it produces and if it's even worth it. I know something like the Phantom Spirit 120 Evo can cool even an overclocked 14900K at 225w load, but I'm not interested in having to hear an airplane just to keep an OC cooled.
This video is a bit misleading too. They mention that it "can be" overclocked, but do not say whether or not the comparisons they were doing vs Intel, or if their own benchmarks were at stock speeds, or with an OC.
@@Neonmirrorblack stock unless mentioned in the fine print, which it isn't, it runs regular settings. nobody wants to do the Intel path, that cost them big time when they got caught using a chiller.
20% vs i9 is huge numbers, good for gamers
Was waiting for Arrow Lake but then it turned out to be awful so i'm getting this instead. 8% is not a big increase but at least it's an increase and not a gaming decrease like Arrow Lake.
keep in mind that some of the games being picked (such as Wukong) are GPU-bound, which is probably why the average gain is "only 8%"
For 9000 series AMD hype it - flop
For Intel 15gen Intel hype it - flop
For x3d AMD hype it - TBD
So hold your brake before you lunch so fast calling it increase tho
I've been team blue my whole gaming life, but after my last i7 8700K, the 9800X3D will be running my next gaming rig! Team Red, Team Red, Team Red!
You were always "team red". You are not fooling anyone with that name Mr. "Jits".
So like 5-10% faster than the 7800x3D since it's already 15% faster than the 285K on average?
This will be my first AMD processor, I have seen there is some potential along the way for the new intels to be overclocked but i dont have the time to wait. upgrading from 8700k
Currently on a 7800X3D, I'll upgrade to the 9800XD next summer and give my 7800X3D to my bestie.
you don't have to
im your bestie right?
-480$ for 8% increase 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Good friends are the best 🍺😀
@@awaiswasi354 My bestie is on a 1st gen Ryzen so he's well overdue an upgrade, along with giving him the 7800XD I've already got some ram and a B650 mobo I managed to get on a deal ready to go for his build.
I'll be upgrading from a 9900k hoping to see a decent uplift!
In games obviously yes, in production is a downgrade
Lets go AMD AMD AMD AMD. I knew you could do it back in 2016
1:41 bro's been playing Ashes of the Singularity 😂
Ryzen 9800X3D is a great example of an amazing processor with a bad price.
When you get more performance for a new release or generation for the same price this is progress and innovation.
When corporations raise prices for greedy profits and justify them only by a small increase in performance it is bad, this is stagnation.
The market proved many times that when choosing quick profits over progress, new competitors will emerge and overtake them sooner or later.
Milking customers is a bad recipee to progress and innovation and It seems that AMD chose to copy Intel and nvidia on the bad side too often, especially when you want to increase your market share.
Oh & crying about Zen 5 being only 5% (Zen 5%) making the 7800x 3d prices jump to $600 isn't all your own & reviewers' faults? too huh?
You don't buy top new products because of the price my friend.
@@nempk1817 Agree, this was Intel motto too, and let's look where is Intel now. I am just stating a fact :)
While I agree with you... it's hardly AMD's fault.
Why would they need to bother? Their only CPU competitors are Intel, Apple, and Qualcomm.
Intel? Can't stop shooting their foot.
Apple? Some of those customers wouldn't pick AMD anyway while the others want the ARM efficiency. Regardless, has nothing to do with gaming.
Qualcomm? Rocky start to Windows, with ARM breathing down their neck and jeopardizing potential future releases.
AMD has no incentive. Why pour resources into "establishing a lead over competition" when there is none? Why "increase market share" anyway when they're _dominating_ the valuable datacenter market?
@@moldyshishkabob Agree with you too, and I see how this strategy is working, also I see how this AMD "strategy" will bite them back because it is working for AMD against Intel, and in the same time is working for Nvidia against AMD. AMD will never capture more vidoecard market share with this "strategy".
Thus, AMD better give customers more performance for the right or the best price, and more people will buy AMD processors, and also will start buying more AMD videocards too.
chiplet technology with stacked 3D cache is the best design innovation since nehalem/sandy bridge era.
AMD WOW YES forever !!
Awesome. Will buy eventually. But so far, still enjoying my 7800X3D.
It's official 🔥
OOOH.. I cant wait for Hardware Unboxed to show us the numbers!
The future is right around the corner!
Can't wait to see what insult Userbenchmarks will come up on the review of this one.
is that site still around? incredible.
I'm glad the message is more 'forefront of innovation' than adjustment for mid range market. Keep up the high flying vibes with AMD's CPU. Hopefully we still get a high end AMD GPU next generation. Great presentation Jack 👌
Thank you AMD for improving constantly your products, in a wonderfully consumer friendly and open source way. Please never change your core principles, and you'll always have a ton of satisfied consumers by your side.
Are you an AI or something? The 9000 generation is ass except for the 9800X3d, and even then it's barely going to be better than the 7800x3d
@user-hh5pj5jv8p I'm talking about the general way of working amd has, the 7800x3d is a beast for gaming. Their gpu have very good performance for the price, and open source drivers, upscaling technology not locked on their cards (like Nvidia does). AI what? XD
"I've been playing my favorite games, like Ashes of the Singularity"
Yeah, I'm sure you did
18% extra performance in Space Marine 2 is perfect.
Based on advertising benchmarks, so that's definitely fake lol
Expect closer to 6-10% still good but not worth a new cpu.
those numbers are most likely to be at 1080p
@@jeanytpremium And?
@@jeanytpremium4k dlss performance mode
He's come so far since his tryout on American Idol all those years ago.
Price?
479usd
@@hasiktak1544 Cry in French (+20% TAX)
@@KamiKazeD they need to pay it too, dont worry.
I can’t wait for release and to change platform to AM5 + 9800x3D and post some more benchmarks on my youtube channel ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Congrats AMD !
Only if AMD coupled the 9800X3D with a 5090 killer it would have been sweeter. Lisa loves giving Nvidia free advertisements!
I think you are the one giving Nvidia free advertisement. Its so obvious????
just use two RX 7900 XTX mGPU works on all RDNA cards.
AMD can't couple 9800x3D with a GPU that doesn't exists. They won't have any chance at competing with 5090 until RDNA 5.
just like how they end up making the best cpu, it'll take some time.
yeah sure dude, everyone's really hyped for a 2k dollar card, cant really play without it
Plug and play CPU's?! We are entering a most interesting era for computing, bravo.
yes, update bios and then plug and play
oh im here early apparently
Going from 9 5900X to 9800X3D for me should also be interesting
X3D♥
2:42 tim has worked in quake and more quake
you can give cod all the power in the world and those console gamers will still just auto aim straight onto you.
i have a 7800x3d since it came out - i will wait for the 10th gen 🙂
R.I.P: RDNA 4. never knew you existed 😥😥
Thank you AMD ❤️❤️❤️
Iam still on the i7 4790k and guess what my next CPU will be?
Starts with 9, followed by 8, followed by Intel fucked and followed by 00x3D.
8 cores for almost $500 in 2024 and it's almost 2025
intel sells 20something for 600 and doesnt beat this, you buy the intel, gess what is going to buy the rest of people
Its not about the cores its the fastest Gaming cpu on market
Ryzen 7 7800x3d it's the best gaming processor on the market and intel does not stand close. If you buying PC for a gaming there is only one choice. 8 Cores for gaming is more than enough
@@arch1107 it does actually, in productivity.
Damn.. not only is AMD's gaming performance gap getting bigger, but the games they sponsor are much better too! Warhammer is a massive upgrade from games like Godfall!
Let's go Team RED!!!
LETSGO I WAS HERE. Cool to see AMD taking gaming seriously.
Its such a cutting edge chipset, it can only play games that don't even exist yet!
Which games in that list aren't out yet?
Name one game from that list that isn't released?
I'm so glad AMD exists
so give me a x3d mobile chip then Jack? Like what's the hold up here? give me a x3d for a handheld device and HBM4. Please?
It's actually already a thing with the 7945HX3D, probably not that common due to the power consumption, heat and TDP limits will effect how much performance increase you can get from a mobile package.
So hyped even though i can't afford it. But i love seeing the boundaries being pushed. AMD
Imagine paying $480 for an 8-core CPU in 2024. A 245k with Cudimm will trade blows/lose by 5% in gaming, while delivering 10-20% more performance in multithreaded applications. It will also cost $180-$200 less, which is a whole GPU tier. 9800x3d isn't for gamers, its for fringe enthusiasts that play at 1080p with a 4090.
Oh look someone is yapping around
@@PestDoktorLive Sorry that my facts are too much for your smooth brain.
@@ProVishGaming You speak about facts, without naming any fact. Thats "fringe"
sounds like something from Userbenchmark would say
26% faster in a game running on already the fastest CPU on the planet is insane
4:18 they dont even use their own GPUs for testing...
Because the rtx 4090 is the best and they want the full perfermance from the cpu
Give it a rest. They benchmark with an RX 7900XTX and the whole Internet dunks on them for not using "teh moast powerfuul GePeUh evah". So they do now, and people complain that it's not their product? Should Intel do their benchmarks on Arc from now on? No? Didn't think so!
@@danieloberhofer9035 Exactly. People will never be satisfied
Makes sense! 4090 is just on its own level!
That doesn’t really say anything about their GPUs other than that they aren’t as performative as a 4090…you do realize that every single gpu in existence is worse than the 4090 in terms of performance right? Not everyone spends $1,600 on a gpu so for everyone else you would be picking between the options below that which includes both AMD and nvidia cards depending on which price range you are going for. In a cpu comparison, it makes sense to use the highest level gpu because it will show the maximum fps that a cpu can achieve. I also love how you were detailed enough to read the fine print at the end but couldn’t be bothered to use basic logic…
Well done AMD. Nice to see you still care about gamers unlike Intel. I wish you a great success with this product. You deserve it.
after a year of nothing but problems with my 114k, only just now stabilized , im DONE. cant wait for a 9800x3d!
1:52 I think there is a mistake. It’s not called arrow lake it is called error lake
OOOOOOOOOOO the wait was worth it i was going to get the 7800X3D but then i thought no im gonna wait and now its here
Selling my 7800X3D and upgrading to this 💯
3:01 no idea how an upcoming processor has any influence on the games Saber Interactive creates, but sure. Gotta squeeze that marketing deal in your 4 minute presentation I guess.
3:44 what innvation? It's team green that pioneered ML-based upscaling and frame generation, with AMD always following in their footsteps.
AMD please ensure that Scalpers don’t affect your customers. Thank you. 🙏
Respect for not disabling comments
Intel never see that AMD is destroying his entire CPU Empire
How is the FPS in Concord and Unknown 9 ? Need to know before i buy.
I'm interested to see what the power draw, frametime consistency, and pricing look like vs the 7800X3D
Good to see Tim again.
0:45 - you said the word eports. You are fired, mister. How dare you pander to fake gamers?
What's more offensive? The South East Asian dental work or Tim Willits pretending he's not a hack? Hard to choose.
5600x since it came out. Still going strong!
damn.. this is really the nail in the coffin for intel