Atheists and Sex Offenders
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- Yeah...he's a nobody, but Florida "pastor" Michael Stahl has provided a great excuse to remind others just how many atheists and free-thinkers affect our lives and cultures every day. Stahl has suggested that known atheists be categorized on a list he called "The Christian National Registry of Atheists." Imagine what kind of names, past and present, such a list would provide.
I think that Stahl was right, there should be a list.
With all the names of the people mentioned here, I'd be proud to add my name to it.
This message literally made me cry.
Ex-Moslim, Proud to be Atheist.
Christians made me an atheist.
John Doe Atheists made me a christian.
amber colour you become a believer in a god who fuck his own mother to give birth to himself because there is people who dont believe in fairy tale called god? how is that happen? does every time someone dont believe in something make you automatically believe in weird stuff? you got some serious issue bro
+Roma X The bible never said god fuckked his own mother. Also it's your opinion That god is a fairy tale, The evidence is on your side, but remember the lack evidence for the existence of a god is not the same thing as proof that no god exists.
Alex Johnson
of course not, the bible only say god made marry preger much like most other demigod mythology such as hercules or inana which in those case the gods did came down to fuck the bitches them self so its a safe assumptions to say god fuck his own mother due to the similarity of many other myth of the same variety
but you are completely totally wrong on the burden of proof, a story with magical component in it are called fairy tale unless the party that claims it as fact can actually show evidence that the magical story have any validity, or else we will have to accept all fairy tale such as seiyu journey to the west of monkey king, veda with its gods war and giant flying castle, odysseus journey illiad, and all those other fairy tale as fact until someone can proof that its not a fact, which is totally ridiculous, the default positions to take when reading a story that have magical component in it is to accept it as just a fairy tale, this is what non crazy people do, same goes with god claims, it is the burden of proof of those who claims that god existed to proof it, and absolutely 100% not the obligations of those who doubt it.
+Roma X Nope i totally disagree No christian needs to prove to you or anybody else that their god exists. Unless they want to convince someone who requires scientific evidence that god exists. I think everybody should be taught critical thinking even if that creates more Atheists in the world. And the only people who believe in god should do so because in some way it makes their lives better or gives them hope, even if it's a false hope. Sometimes for a certain segment of the human population a hope of going to heaven and being with god is all that they have. I'm talking about people who are unable to succeed in life because they are not smart enough, people who are born in pain and suffer their whole lives with incurable disabilities, people who have untreatable mental illness. The list goes on and on. God exists, always has existed, and always will exist, even if he only exist in the minds of the people who believe in him. Call it a mental disorder if you like.
"People like this should THINK CRITICALLY before they act. Oh, that's right, I keep forgetting, faith believers don't do much thinking nowadays: critical or otherwise!"
I would like to give a great big thank you to all the atheists out there. I'm not one of you yes i am a christian, but you actually do a great service to christians. By showing them the errors of religious ideas and by showing the errors of religious dogma. Even though I'm a christian I am constantly trying to teach other christians that the earth is not 6000 years old, by the way the bible never even says it is. But christians won't listen to me. Im also always trying to get across to them the evolution is not against the bible, they don't listen to me there either. Too bad all christians weren't required to listen to 40 hours of richard dawkins or Christopher hitchens. I like those guy's I don't always agree with everything they say, but they have make some great points when they speak.
You seem like a rational person. Can you prove you are a Christian?
+Alex Johnson If more Christians were like you, youtube would be a boring place but the world would be a much better one.
+kristabella222 TH-cam wouldn't be boring, the hate would just shift to other issues like Black lifes matter, Feminist Frequency etc even more than it already does.
If I were a Christian I'd say "Bless you Alex" but since I'm not "my respect for your stance" shall suffice.Thanks for posting
+Alex Johnson I'm an atheist and christians like you I really respect. Your not demoralising our faith choices so I won't do the same thing to you. And everyone saying he's not a Christian, what ever anybody identifies with you must leave them be to believe that, their faith doesn't affect you
"The Christian National Registry of Atheists"?
i'm all for it, as long as there is an atheists national registry of christians to balance everything out...
freedom of religion includes freedom FROM religion...
think for yourself... it ain't a crime (yet)...
Put me on this list. Heck, I'm pretty sure that atheists would be signing up by the hundreds to have their names displayed alongside Christopher Hitchens and Neil deGrasse Tyson.
And John Lennon 🙂And Mark Twain. And.. And... and... and... me
Holy Shit !!! the Inquisition is coming back
The Inquisition was, in fact, never shut down - just renamed in behalf of Pope Pius X.
I Stand Corrected and I was making a Joke but even way before the birth of Christ religions were used or hijacked by the state or ruling class to control the people. Even today there are people would like to turn the U.S.A. into a religious state like Iran or Russia under the czar for the purpose of becoming the new king.
I bet you never expected that ...
God is an atheist. Put him on the list.
lol
Justin Case no he isn't
@ Jan Grothe God believes in another higher god?
He no longer believe s in himself, damn
@@justsomeguy2825 LMAO he gave up i guess
this went 0-100 real quick.
I hear a lot of christians comparing atheists to the Nazi regime. The funny thing is, what Pastor Stahl is proposing is the same as what the Nazis did with their Jewish population. Compile a list so that they could be singled out.
To say to people who compare people to Nazis while they themselves want to treat those people like the Nazis treated Jews, I only have one thing to say:
*You've become the very thing you've sworn to destroy!*
Where is the list and how do I get on it ?
What a wicked old bastard. Wonder what is it he's afraid of?
Truth and logic.
Can I get on this list - it's like a list of some of the greatest people of all time!
I am hating that the commercials before every Thinking Atheist video is for the movie Risen
I like that tagline at the end, "no list will ever contain us." gives me goosebumps.
*smiles at the Mythbusters*
stahl (no caps = no respect) should be boycotted!
my head hurts, that voice was beyond clear, pitch perfect, abnormally correct and spot on!
What these folks don't realize is that statements like this open people's eyes (not all of them of course) and drive people away from religion, not closer to it.
Omg that was lik a preholocaust scenario if people actually listened to him
this is evidence on how ignorant these fundamentalist pastors are.
I was expecting a soft humor driven message in this video. I was pleasantly surprised of your strength and conviction in your message. Wonderful.
@podoau ""In this quote, Eienstein is referring to the uniformity of the laws of physics. He admired the way physics worked. He did not believe in any invisible sky friend"" I'm amazed you knew Einstein personally to do such an affirmation regarding his beliefs.
I could have sworn that the "kkk" was a "christian" organization. On another note, the world would instantly become a better place if the bible was set in the fantasy section of the library.
We should do the same to them if they do that The Atheist National Registry of Christianity
I got goosebumps during these last few seconds. This last sentence was so powerful!!
Greetings from Altoona, PA
2019 and this still upsets me. After all, this mindset hasn't gone away.
Yo, Pastor Stahl, if you're still alive, go get yourself some atheist friends. We're a pretty diverse bunch of people.
I'd like to ad one to the list, he was an unwavering "Christian" for around 38 years... "ME... Michael Alcorn... Quis ut Deus A Latin sentence meaning "Who [is] like God?", is a literal translation of the name Michael (Hebrew: מִיכָאֵל, transliterated Micha'el or Mîkhā'ēl). Yep, on my third time reading the "Bible" now. Each time I become more and more convinced, that if there is or ever was a god, He/She/It, does not dwell in the pages of the Bible or any other "Holy Book".
Might I suggest sewing yellow stars on our clothes to better identify us, pastor?
No, now you know they make us wear a big "A", oh wait that one is taken.
Parry Reposte
Will we have to wear matching black & white vertical striped shirts with those A's on them? Very slimming.
He could use a brain!? Not his own. I meant as a design.
The question is how many of those great atheists of the past, and even many of the present, have had to keep quiet about their lack of belief in order to avoid harassment, family ostracism, or loss of their livelihood, and in the more distant past (and in Islamic dictatorships right now) to avoid forced exile, violent threats to their families, torture or execution?
religion is a very powerful weapon
, it's a weapon of mass destruction , a cancer growing in our society
"We are Atheists, we are everywhere" is true, but sounds so badass
That is horrible, and terrifying... I do not condemn theist's for their beliefs, I just do not follow their logic. I do not understand how imposing one's theistic world views on another make their belief any stronger. A belief loses credibility when the only weapon it has in argument is forcing it upon the unwilling. Does this man honestly believe Christianity will be validated through atrocities?
If you need to force people to belive in your religion, it's not a good religion.
That's because Christ will be throwing you to the lake of fire at the grand finale.
You think God came here to make peace? He came here to claim property.
@justice8718 Oh no... More threats from theists. God is all loving and all-knowing, but if he knows you might question him because he made you that way, he will cast you into a lake of fire that he created. Sounds pretty evil to me. Justify your fantasy however you want, but in the end, it is still only your fantasy.
@@dekky3908 He's doing it because he already did answer your questions and shown himself in the sky with signs and wonders, yet you have ignored him and refused to believe in the gospel. Violence legit became his only answer left for you.
@justice8718 Right, like I said, this is YOUR fantasy, not mine. This is why your argument doesn't actually mean anything because your beliefs are not my reality. In the end, believe whatever you want, just don't expect me to entertain your delusion.
It is the preachers that are the crooks. Con-men all.
And you sir, Sport a very epic beard
Yeah, I thought that too. But I think it was making a point that it was not only scientists, philosophers and other intellectuals - it's also entertainers like Clarkson, or Jack Nicholson and George Clooney.
Assuming this list is ever published in book form, I volunteer to be on the cover! I might also find the list useful in finding businesses to patronize.
My atheist coworker hates gays. He says it has nothing to do with the Bible, only right vs. wrong.
Christians claim it has everything to do with the Bible. However, my coworker position makes me wonder if Christians just use the Bible as their excuse for hating gays. As an added bonus for their churches, preaching against gays certainly helps them fill the collection plate.
Though there is no data I know of, after thinking about my coworkers comment, it wouldn't surprise me if there is the same percentage of atheists that are anti-gay as the percentage of Christians that don't' like gays. I believe it is their human nature. Everyone just finds their own excuse for their hatred.
I have no doubt that that is the case in many cases. There are a large number of Christians who do practice hating the sin but loving the sinner and I have very little doubt that, but for their religion, those people would have no issue with gay people in general and gay marriage specifically. There are also plenty who use their religion to justify their existing bigotry though.
There are undoubtedly homophobic atheists, but I have to wonder how much of that is due to religion indirectly. Religion has a great deal of sway in our society and has had even more in the past and that has led to widespread and long-lasting discrimination against and demonisation of homosexuals. It has, for so long, been socially accepted and even encouraged to hate homosexuals that it now transcends religion. Men in particular are taught that the mere existence of homosexuals is a threat to their masculinity. Gays are feminine and if you don't hate them then you're feminine too and not a real man.
As for your coworker who claims that his argument against is about right vs wrong, I'd be interested to know what his actual argument is for homosexuality being wrong. I'm guessing that it would be that gay sex can't produce children and is therefore unnatural. That is just a complete crock. Gay sex can't produce children, no doubt, but where does it say that nature requires all sex to produce or be capable of producing children? Eating food is required for survival but I'm not sure that anyone would assert that we should only ever eat just what we need to survive. Even health nuts would still want to eat things they like for the pleasure of it alone. Abstinence can't produce children either but I don't hear anyone arguing that it is wrong.
Quite simply, some people find the thought of gay sex icky and don't want things that make them feel icky to be allowed. Homosexuality hurts noone - unlike discrimination against homosexuality - and we have no issues with the population falling as a result of it so there's just no good argument against it. Even if the population was falling because too great a proportion was homosexual, we'd simply use artificial insemination to help gay people, most of whom already want to have children, have children, as we do with heterosexual couples who can't have children with their partners for biological reasons. We wouldn't force them to marry and mate with people they weren't sexually attracted to.
"My atheist coworker hates gays. He says it has nothing to do with the Bible, only right vs. wrong." *This has nothing to do with a disbelief in a God but rather the insecurities of the person saying it!* *Who someone has sex with (As long as it isn't a child) only matters if that someone is You!*
It has been Scientifically proven Homophobic males (As this is typically where homophobia is from) are afraid they are Gay! I have just Two Words for ya.
Ted Haggard!
There's planty of ex-religious people who no longer hate gays after turning to atheism. Atheists who hate gays are prejudiced bigots, but religious people who hate them could have been inspired by the doctrine of christianity, and would otherwise have accepted them.
Plenty of straight people do horrible sick things too.
*****
"I don't hate gays, but I think what they do is sick."
I find that to be a very stupid statement. Like you, I am an atheist and a heterosexual male who has nothing against gay people but has no interest in sex with other men. The thought of doing so is repulsive to me, but that is not to say that for someone else to do so is sick. It's just as natural for a homosexual person to be attracted to the same sex and have sex with them as it is for us to be attracted to the opposite sex and have sex with them. It's less common but that doesn't make it sick, any more than being left-handed and writing with your left hand is sick. I hate avocados and can't believe that anyone enjoys eating them because the thought of doing so is repulsive to me. I don't consider those who feel and act differently sick.
Just add 60 %of all the people in the netherlands
Don't forget the other secular nations that have evolved beyond the yoke of religion.
You mean the secular nations that fell behind King David, King Solomon, and Goerge Washington. Israel is dumb tiny. US is dumb young. And they both collapse this entire world from their relevance.
@SadeofDarkness
Yeah, it is kinda scary how the country with the cross as its flag is in fact more secularised than a nation founded as a secular nation.
lol I love how jeremy clarkson was randomly thrown in there?
John Lennon is bigger than God
Yup, and more real. Imagine.
Why the HELL does this video only have 130k views? its spine chilling and inspireing. It makes me feel proud to be an atheist.
LOL the commercial before this is is one about L. Ron Hubbard
This was really good and exceptionally informative thank you! Concerning this subject I think they should be charged with a hate crime against atheist.
No list will ever contain us... Wow, that line was awesome!
Now that is a list that I would be proud to be on. I can only hope that I can contribute a tiny fraction of what some of those people have.
The Christian National Registry of Atheists....
Where can i registered?
That was simply amazing. Your production value is stunning.
As Max Born of Quantum Physics fame was quoted as saying:
The belief that their is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it seems to me the deepest root of all the evil that is in the world.
Never a truer word spoken
Here in the south preachers still call for this. Their catch phrase? "Someone think of the children!"
..."All persons shall have free and full liberty of religious opinion; nor shall any person be compelled to maintain or frequent any religious institution."
Thomas Jefferson
1813
WTF the ending sequence creeped me out, i got goose bumps of it! That stuff "No list will ever contain us." is like saying we are an infection and no one can stop us we will crush your ideology and make you one of us! That's sounded almost like fanatical atheist, your slogan could be "Deny God, or Die!" I don't believe in God, but i believe in the good of mankind and that's why i hope i never have to kill anybody, luckly when i served my time in Afghanistan there was no necessity for it!
Go ahead and put me on that list. I'd be in great company.
In a Eurobarometer Poll in 2010, just 18% of Swedish citizens responded that "they believe there is a god".In a 2009 Gallup poll, 17% answered yes to the question "Is religion an important part of your daily life?". Less than 4% of the Church of Sweden membership attends public worship during an average week; about 2% are regular attendees.
Were did you get these numbers?
If someone were serious about building such a list they could start by compiling a list of members of Mensa, individuals with advanced degrees in STEM fields and citizens of Norway. You might get 2 or 3 believers on your list if you started there.... but not much more.
There are a bit more believers in Norway than that (but i do understand that you where just exaggerating to make the point very clear ;) ) but for the most part it would contain the majority of our citizens yes. It was recently completed a new catholic church in Trondheim (as if it wasn't enough that they already had the 1000 year old church, the oldest one in the country too technically) and it was mentioned in the same article that the catholics of the area where around 5000 members in total. That is is a city of a little less than 200 000 inhabitants.
But it can be added that over the last 30-40 years, baptism rates, confirmations and such religious ceremonies have been dropping. It is a slow process, but it is clear that non-believers make up the majority of the country.
Wait, why did I just get a Mormon advertisement before this video?
At the gates of Heaven before my condemnation to hell when I'm asked why I'm an atheist, they will say: "who is this man who taught you to be an atheist?" I will say: "Pastor Stahl. I'm thinkin, he'll be in a heap-o-trouble!
I think you have it exactly right. You can't bargain or reason with someone like that. There is no compromise they will accept (except in bad faith as a cynical ploy to gain ground) in their quest to turn America into a Christian theocracy. If fact they remind me of a quote from the novel "The Tyrant" by Eric Flint & David Drake: "evil is wasted on the wicked. Only the virtuous can truly plumb its depths, because only they have the necessary strength of conviction."
@Fefedefefessle 1. Is still considered a close system even when is expanding. 2. This is simpler to calculate than Drake's and is pretty accurate 3. By doing a soup of cellular components you fast forward evolution millions and millions of years. Even with that help, no cell can be achieved in the lab 4. Self programming is deciding to burn your finger with a candle, animals can't 5. Adaptations occur first, the environment selects the one that produces the more progeny, regardless complexity.
Was a pity, that when listing atheist occupations,
US politicians could not be included.
This needs to air on TV!!
Is it too late, or can I still register for inclusion on this list?
For anyone to be placed in such a list for that purpose would be an insult. The pastors way of thinking is both hateful and primitive to want to brand so many people just because we don't buy their fairytales. I'm glad this video is here and I am happy to see so many of my heroes and rolemodels listed.
So glad to live in a part of the world where atheists are not looked down upon. People should be judged by their actions in life rather than their belief of what is going to happen after.
No list will ever contain us. That has to be a new t shirt.
I thought it was gone have a fightclub style ending:
We cook your meals. We haul your trash. We connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us.
Julie Just is the female version of Morgan Freeman, that last part got me doing push ups, yeah i was that hype!! lol
That last comment gave me goosebumps. Awesome line and so effing true! :)
Wait wait, it showed pictures of Mark Zuckerberg and Jeremy Clarkson when she said "contributors to a better life on this planet." :)
@teoeo Albert Eistein said during an interveiew" god is the product of human weakeness" he also said " I have repeatly said that in my opion the belief of a persomnal god is childlike" he also said" it is a lie that I believe in a personal god"
@dejesusluisx
1|actually, the rule of entropy, as in the third rule of thermodynamics, only applies in a closed system. TTA also mentions that in another video.
2|what fine tuning? there are billions of worlds that could have ended up like ours, that suffered fates we narrowly survived. there is no fine tuning, we were just lucky.
3|who mentioned self assembly? it developed over time, not just in one generation.
4|wrong. just wrong.
5| the strong genes survive and are passed on. weak genes die.
I demand for my name to be placed on that list
@mandrillx Yes I know, that doesn't make him an atheist. rejection of personal god does not = atheism. He was pretty openly a deist as he believed in a non-personal god.
just subscribed to you! I love this channel! How I managed not to find this until now!
@atonement19 The etiology of the word worship comes from the word "worth" and "ship" The verb "worship" means "to shape worth." The meanings of "worth" suggest the purpose of worshiping: to come to be equal to, or to turn toward, the highest or best values. So when you give the highest value to scientific arguments, you are in fact, worshiping science.
That sounded astonishingly familiar.
I really feel as if somewhere in the mid 30's or so, some European county or another was doing shit like this to a religious minority.
Nope, pulling a blank.
If there ever is a list like that, I'm going to visit it so that I can shop at atheist businesses and talk to other atheists.
"No list will ever contain us"
The video isn't showing only strict Atheist of religious skeptics overall, like Tyson, Twain and Einstein.
Did anyone else get a Scientology Commercial before the video?...
the way pastor Stahl perceives atheists is very close to how Hitler approached the Jews; telling the German people to boycot their shops etc. this is very scary. I wonder on whose side Satan really is...
I'm pretty sure such a list would backfire spectaculary. At least from a christian perspective. Because people would suddenly find out that a) there are way more atheists out there than they ever thought possible and b) many would suddenly find out that one of their buddies that they might've known for years are actually atheists. And it's easy to hate, condemn and ridicule some anonymous people you've never met. But it's not so easy to do that when you actually know that person.
The end with the world and the woman talking made me think like ateists are now hackers from Watch Dogs...
yeah ateist are hackers but not atheist
@f00tstep As I posted before: There are perfectly valid reasons to say atheism is a religion. A religion is a formal organization centered around a belief that has to do with divinity based on faith. Atheist saying God doesn't exist without giving evidence are asserting a faith argument regarding a divinity. Furthermore, atheists are well organized, as this video shows, and international conventions confirm. They have a common goal: to destroy other religions and a subject of worship: science.
Where do I sign up for this list?
I regret that I have, but one thumbs up to give to this video.
@dejesusluisx
1| constant expansion is the main proposal of the big bang theory.
2| smarter than drake, are we?
3| what is the relevance of this?
4| most species have the awareness to recognize basic things with simple cognitive functionality.
5| I'll liken it to an RPG game. as you level up, you can expand your special talents. so can an animal. through the process of evolution they can adapt and create new abilities for the species. thus, more complex creatures.
Marie Curie invented the theory of radioactivity, the treatment of radioactivity, and dying of radioactivity ಥ_ಥ
@megoofychick I'm not saying we necessarily have to stick with religion, but we need to access the part of our neural net that engages best with repetition, rhythm, harmony and joy. If you read Michael Gershon's 'The Second Brain', you'll learn that the oldest neural network was the one in the gut - not the blob on the end of the spine. It gives us our 'gut' feelings and 'instincts'. To fully engage humans, we need to appeal to both the gut and the gray cells to be fully engaged.
@KillerAragon I think I should say something that should've been said at the begining of this discussion and it wouldn't be fair to continue without it. I am not an atheist. Neither am I a christian. I respect the church, and treat it the same way I treat any institution that contributed to the human advancement. My life is good, thanks for asking and when it is not so good I will take the responsibility for it and I won't hide behind much easier answer that "somebody up there" is angry at me.
For the record, if this list had become a thing, it makes it easier for individual atheists to both support other atheists by finding them on said list. It could also be a way to discriminate against religiously owned businesses, i.e. if you didn't see a particular business on the list, you could ask them their affiliation before conducting a transaction. I just don't see the big deal; anyone can investigate a business and refuse to transact with it for any reason, like religious disagreements.
not only the whole famous and life changing people would be put on this list, but would violate personal lives and go against personal privacy, something against national law
Great video! But after having just made a superb list of atheists, the narrator concludes "No list will ever contain us."
Har har har!
@narutofan9999 actually the definition of deist can be both applied to your definition and the one of "weareEvolving", as deist just means the belief in a god. in the most general term possible. (some deists even believe there is a god, but he didn't create the world)
@Snowdemoman Wow..." We're all born atheist, but adults influencing us with their polluted minds can quickly force a child into a religion, leaving them too scared to open their eyes to the world." Best quote I've ever read :'D
@TheThinkingAtheist This is a beautiful video. Thanks for your good work. I'm not an atheist, but i am glad that you point out all the oppression some people cause. I have great respect for your work. As a pagan, i hold nothing higher than equality of all human beings, and freedom.
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Great Video. We need to be proud of who we are and let the world know that we strive to be ethical without gods or the promise of a heaven in the afterlife.
I agree, set up a little donation to get this aired on tv! :)
If anyone ever feels alone or outcast as an atheist, recommend this video. We are in great company!
If more people acted and believed as you do there would be far fewer problems in the world. I don't agree with your belief on the after life but I do agree with your take on this. Thank you.
@mandrillx he even said "I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist."