My wife and I do proctor care for teenagers. When a caseworker is trying to place a new kid with us the first thing they mention is whether or not they're a sex offender. We always ask, "What kind?". 99% of the time it's something like fooling around with their girlfriend and their parents didn't like it. We truly need a different term for these kids. I know, a teenager maybe? I'm pretty sure I've been desensitized. If someone tells me they're a sex offender I reply with, "Okay.".
Thanks for your sensitive approach to these issues! In many segments of the foster care and adoption system even children who have never been accused of sexually misbehaving are unable to find homes who will love them simply because they have been the victims of abuse and are thus labeled "potential future sex offenders".
Another problem with the registry is how it destroys someones drive to be productive in society. If you get out and you have served your time, you want to get a job. You want to make things right. You want to prove you can operate in a normal state of mind and live a normal life. But when you want to go get the job you want they say "no". When you want to go see a family member's high school sports game they say "no". When you want to live with a supportive friend but they live within a certain distance of a school, park, or playground they say "no." If you get convicted of public urination, they also say "oh by the way you can't care for the elderly in a nursing home and you have to delete your social network accounts". There in lies the lack of a true system that can take a look at the crime and categorize it accordingly. A lot of the reasons that you may see people go back to prison is because every time they say "let me do these things to prove i can be productive" they continually keep getting restricted. It's no wonder that any type of person after getting out of jail has no motivation to do things when they constantly get shot down trying to do things that they said would help you maintain your sanity. Honestly, the registry is just a "feel good law" so that sheriffs and politicians can get more votes the next time they run and can say what a great job they did making sure the sex offenders don't run rampant. But go dig up all the new cases not stemming from a recidivist and they are no where better off.
@rob Howell would you be interested in helping educating some idiots on TH-cam my group is also aware the registry is unconstitutional also do you have a contact to contact you
The Sex Offender registry is an abomination. No matter the crime (and I think child molestation is heinous, as well as that many that do it deserve death), no one should be on any list once they serve their time. If it's deemed by the judicial system that a person should no longer be in jail, that person should have all the freedoms available to them that anyone who has never been in jail does. It's downright evil to have laws discriminating against people who have in the past served jail time, for anything. If we truly think a person is a danger, they shouldn't be let out to begin with.
The problem is that we don't have an actual rehabilitation system. If there was something like court-ordered therapy in place or having your paychecks go to the victim until they're made whole, then we could get rid of this "once a criminal, always a convict" stigma. But no, all we do is throw people in a cage and let them rot, and if there's anything left of them by the end of it, we just piss on the ashes. Our society is diseased and disgusting.
***** Not at all. No one should be sentenced past the time that they are reasonably deemed to no longer be a danger. Again, anyone not in jail should enjoy all the freedoms of anyone who's never been in jail. You're effectively sentencing someone to life if you put them on a list or deny them rights based upon a transgression they served their time for (if they are released). If they really pose a danger, they should not be outside of jail to begin with (and depending on the circumstances of their crime, perhaps not even alive). A person who has served their time in prison and has been released should be able to get on with their life. Denying them that does no one any good (except perhaps the businesses that make money off of all of this; which is another problem: the profit incentive needs to be removed entirely from the penal system.).
***** You need to re-familiarize yourself with what 'violent' means. Also, there are plenty of non-violent crimes out there. Theft being one. The pertinent factor is if there is a victim or not, not whether it's violent or not. No one should be in jail, arrested, or anything else negative for a victimless crime.
These people need the ability to seek help, recognize their flaws, learn from their mistakes and move on. They can't grow and learn from their errors if society doesn't give them the tools and respect needed to do so.
theknightswhosay alot less than you think. search any local registry near you and filter if by actual "predator". Many registries will differentiate between predator and non predator. A person who got caught with a couple pictures of child porn unknowingly on their computer still shows up on the same list as a sexually violent predator, but YOU have to do the little extra step to find that out. Most narrow minded people who don't understand these subtle differences are the ones who think every one is messed up in the head regardless of their crime
That's certainly true about female teachers. It's sickening. Male teachers would be sex offenders in many places even if the child was of legal age for someone who was not her (or his) teacher.
As a guy living in Norway I would suggest the following. People under the age of consent does not have the same laws for them. Its stupid that a kid can get his life ruined by doing stuff he may not know the consequence of. I would also say that the age of consent is abit high in the US but that is a minor problem compared to the story of a 12 year old forever being prosecuted for something stupid he did when he was a child.
Agreed. But it WAS that way at one time. Age of consent is now like 50 years old for women in some universities now without written documents saying they want to have sex.
Its sad how the term " Sex Offender" is thrown around so easily. A registry intended to protect is hurting many who pose no threat to society or children.
I think people need to help these people true they messed up but they aren't fully dangerous as media and politics claim people regret what they do yet society still wants to do the whole draconian laws
I think it’s insane that someone that killed ppl literally ended their lives drunk driving can get off after like 14 years or so completely free and clear yet ppl who have mental health issues that made mistakes that clearly need professional help are treated worse than murders. Where’s the registry for murders or ppl who have killed others drunk driving? Who’s to stop them from hopping into another car and doing it all over again? There needs to be change in our justice system it’s fucking flawed.
yeah you right, in my country happen the same and I always says to people who likes to harass sex offender and labeled them like monster for ever...will you harass a ex convicted murder? or two houses there is living a drug dealer lets harass him, after all both people (murders and drugdealer) harmed someone even worst.
i am starting a worldwide petition to try and make the law about sex offenders into a much more sensible thing because personally i feel i shouldnt be on the thing - because ive never - nor will i ever sexually touch a child but ive still got 9 years to go.i would be most glad of your signature on : "reforming sex offenders laws for a much more effective system" -change
@Rise Over here305 I don't think so but never new the kid other than the story and announcement at school. If the kid who killed himself is from STL maybe.
I wish I could understand exactly what it is about America that has led us down a path FAR more punitive than any other developed nation. Since we're a "nation of immigrants," and therefore the places we have come from are not nearly as keen on punishment of citizens as we are, how did we then get this way? I wonder whether it could be as simple as ambition. Are US prosecutors more 'vicious" because they're more ambitious?
Leftism is the answer. The reason Leftism was so success in overtaking america is that Feminism was used as it's primary vehicle. Gynocentrism (our protective nature towards females) coupled with Marxist tactics on emotional topics, wholly and completely undermined common sense, religion, & even FACTS know to be true. imo. regards,
If you want to know the answer it's easy to find. I could tell you but you no doubt wouldn't believe me. There is so much documentation showing the origination of the laws that put this in place. Discover and be enlightened.
captnhuffy you are right but it is so much more fun blaming Christians for it. It seems Christians can be blamed for everything that isn't liked these days. ISIS is slaughtering Christians around the world and we are told it's because terrorists don't have jobs. Those Christians need to give them a job I guess.
Exactly which nation isn't a nation of immigrants based on how you are stating it? The Romans controlled Europe and before them the vikings. If we keep going back every country is built by immigrants. That is the most commonly abused statement that mean utterly nothing
Michael Haimerl passing an opinion off as if it were a fact doesn't make you right. It makes you disingenuous. America may be the most secular country in the world. It is the only country in the world where secularism is written into the laws. Also, It's freedom of religion, not freedom from it. In America you can choose to worship or not. Clearly you worship at the altar of atheism and anyone who thinks different is a kind of infidel.
The witch hunt is always more important than gaining real results. It is never driven by concern alone these pricks who have the power to keep that guy in for 2 years over his date they want power at any cost it seams.
P Hab Boy they need and enjoy that witch hunt..., so much they´ll stretch the meaning of witch beyond comprehension whenever they feel they´re running out of witches to hunt and wickermen to burn.
Yep agreed but it's nothing new unfortunately at least this time we have first hand accounts on history as people experienced it and future generations can make there own minds about history. Who knows what will happen to all the data but it's a chance. Well perhaps in another 1000 years earth will be closer to what we all hope it to be. Right now though we have a 3rd world war to start because the worlds broke again so it's time to put meat in the grinder and turn the handle again. Good luck all.
P Hab Da fuck u talkin´bout? does any of that have anything to do with witch hunts and the common psycological and sociological mechanics of witch hunts, including the frequent interests and agendas of the ones behind them? Are u nuts or something? Is troll quality that low nowadays?
hoosierhiver Most likely, but is not uncommon. My cousin is now a registered sex offender for having consensual sex with his then 17yr 9mo fiance when he was 18yr 3mo. Yep they were only 6 mo apart. Yet in California they convicted him with a sex crime and now a registered sex offender for life. The laws need to be rewritten and there needs to be level of sex offender status that can drop off after a time depending on happen. Not as is now you are labeled a sex offender for life just as if you were some child rapist.
hoosierhiver Perhaps, but the problems still remain. If you make integration of a criminal after their sentence is served all but impossible, you are setting the stage for more crime further down the line or making the default penalty for most crimes life imprisonment.Not to mention I have yet to see any evidence that registries reduce crime, and just seems like an updated version of the scarlet letter, with the scandalous nature of anything sexually related being of more importance than actual harm reduction. It's public voyeurism.As it is, with the state acting as the ultimate helicopter parent, making even children walking to school illegal, I don't see much of anything changing with registries, except ever increasing amounts people being included on its rolls.
***** A despotism under a democracy could see "a multitude of men", uniformly alike, equal, "constantly circling for petty pleasures", unaware of fellow citizens, and subject to the will of a powerful state which exerted an "immense protective power". Tocqueville compared a potentially despotic democratic government to a protective parent who wants to keep its citizens (children) as "perpetual children", and which doesn't break men's wills but rather guides it, and presides over people in the same way as a shepherd looking after a "flock of timid animals". ~Wikipedia
9 years for a consensual relation with a minor with only a two year difference? (14 - 16????) That's beyond fucked up. Makes me sick to think of that. What the fuck have we come to?
I thought he said 16. Still, 9 years? For consensual sex with someone who is of legal age in some countries. Still pretty fucked up man. The fact that you have no sympathy for that person shows you have priorities wrong. People do less time for armed robbery, aggravated assault... Shit I just saw a case the other day where a woman held a knife to a police man's throat in a police station, tried to cut his throat but didn't succeed because she stopped him, and she only manage to give him a small cut. She got off scot free on the argument that she was just threatening the policeman and planned to take him hostage so they would release her husband. She said she felt scared and trapped as a woman. She got community service. Another one where a woman hired a hitman (undercover cop with a camera proving all of it) to kill her husband. When the undercover asked her why she said it was because there was insurance money. In court she made the argument that her husband was abusing her, and she got off on probation. The justice system is fucked up man. Especially when there's no doubt that that 14 year old didn't press charges, wasn't "traumatized", and in all likelihood just wanted to have sex with an older guy. I'm not saying what he did shouldn't be illegal; it should be. But 9 years and a sex offender list for the rest of his life? For what he did at 19? If you think that's okay you're a thoroughly fucked up person.
Colin Bell in some countries 9 is the legal age. So what? He was an adult at 19 and 14 is a child and LOOKS like a child. The fact that does not disturb you means your priorities are wrong. We are taking the story of a grown man who thought it was OK to sleep with a 14 year old boy that he "had known for a long time and was really close to". So I doubt the sexual interest in the boy started at 14 but more like 12 or 13. I don't know about the other guys' stories and I am not saying that everyone on the list deserves to be there but that dude in particular needs to be on somebodies list. ( and I would say the same if he were a woman). Also I think we should keep in mind that we only have one side of these stories. It is really easy to feel sympathy when you don't hear from the other people involved.
DeShiia Coleman 9 years in prison. And he wasn't a grown adult, he was 19. I don't think it shouldn't be illegal, but the current consequences are far overkill.
19 is legally an adult and mentally a lot further ahead than 14. I donno what the sentence should be I think I would need to know more but I do think he is a good candidate for a watch list.
Hairy Pixels Damn religious nuts! Everyone should be able to play with a dogs balls without fear of judgement or concerns about hygiene. I blame the Pope.
People assume to know better and assume to be experts. I don't have all the answers but neither do unconnected vigilantes with a hit list or views of just exterminate them.
The only males who haven't had sexual contact with someone before 18 are the ones who never had a chance to, and you don't want to be as psychologically damaged as any of those guys. Really, these guy's greatest crimes is being unattractive. If you're a good lookin' kid, what you can get away with is amazing.
Arguing sex offenders pose no threat to children is completely false. Convicted sex offenders have a 5% re-offense rate (meaning 5% of all convicted sex offenders recommit a sex crime). That is the smallest recidivism rates out of all criminal offenders (murderers have a higher rate of recidivism at 6%). Statistically speaking there's a 5/100 odds of a sex offender molesting another child. There are also dozens of other factors not calculated in this statistical analysis, one such being identical circumstances to the original offense. A sex offender who molests a child they are baby sitting if given the opportunity to continue to baby sit children, after a period of time of comfortability will have increased odds of re-offense. So the question is what is a permissable risk %? The answer is 0% even if 1% was the odds it's too much. Florida is on the right track with sex offenders, separating them from society is the correct course of action. Florida has several towns in which sex offenders are permitted to live that keep them out of civil society. A sex offender shouldn't be left homeless or jobless (an unintentional side effect of their criminal conviction in most cases) yet it's a side effect steaming from their own decision to harm others. States should provide housing and separation from society, giving them their own towns, with jobs, housing, etc.
If you're 12-year-old, touches your 8-year-old, you do not need help. You need to be a fucking parent. This is extremely common behavior. It's not unhealthy It happens all the time. It just requires having a talk with them. If it continues to persist after that, then you need a cause for concern and it mostly just requires separating the kids. If you need a "professional" to assist you with parenting, you never should have become a parent to begin with.
@@itzystreamingplaylistsonch5471 Yes, it is. It's completely normal. It happens all the time. It's been going on for centuries. It's well recorded, well documented. There's a reason the phrase "playing doctor exists". Children get curious. And I know many kids growing up that were as well as myself and both of my siblings. And everybody who says what you said is the evil root of the real problem.
so if that 14 year old girl was having a "consensual sexual relationship" with another 14-16 year old its ok? No! When youre 14 you have no clue who you are and what you are doing in life! This GOOF is 19 (NINTEEN)! so HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER! A 14 YEAR OLD GIRL IS A CHILD!!! What if this girl was his daughter and some 19 year old is perving on her, how would he feel bout that???
That would suck I may be wrong but from what I have noticed there is more hatred for sex offenders then any other group and people don't really care what they are actually on there for so ya everyone would be judged just as badly.
So few of these cases are violent. Almost all of these cases, regardless of the age of the people involved, are completely harmless and often times beneficial. Society is so into this idea that kids cannot give consent that they go ballistic with the legal system and end up hurting so many people in the process. Rape should be charged, not consensual sex.
He was re arrested last year in Wichita Falls for another sex crime. smh Disappointing really. This guy was getting support from his community and fucked up again. He didnt learn his lesson and he is reoffending. He knew what the consequences would be like. And he still chose to take that risk. He deserves whatever he's got coming to him. I would of been more sympathetic if he would remained clean. So, I guess the sex offender registry really kept the community safe didn't it?
Whenever I haven't been able to eat for a couple days, the videos I watch always show close up shots of food. I'd probably molest someone for one of those muffin cake thingys. just kidding. But this always happens when I'm hungry :( x
Wow you people are damaged. While I do believe that if a person has stayed out of trouble for a long enough period of time that their name should come off the registry. This idea that the registry or laws to protect children from predators are draconian is insane. I am sure that if it was you or your child whose life was ruined by a predator you would all feel differently.
I agree I think the main problem is that all sex offenders on considered equally bad socially I dunno if making a different sight for minor ones would help there should be something done some someones life is not completely ruined and assume by everyone to be a child rapist.
Yeah, not towards the person but towards myself. If you can't do your job as the parent THE CHILD'S FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE. THEN WHY DID YOU HAVE THEM EM? I had the same argument with my mother as to why she had me. Her response was because she felt like it. NOW, tell me if you are the parent WHY WOULD YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO YOUR CHILD?
The S O , in the thumbnail , only 2 1/2 years encarceraton ? Woah , that’s really a short time . I did 20 years ! And now I do the Megan’s law /sorna , and that’s forever ! So you got off light . So what therapy did you get while you were in ? And what therapy are you getting while you’re out ? AND THEN ,what have you learned ? I doubt you leaned anything !
95% know their predator. That's not true. It's 75% but even if it was 95% does the other percentage matter any less ? Take some fucking responsibility.
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My wife and I do proctor care for teenagers. When a caseworker is trying to place a new kid with us the first thing they mention is whether or not they're a sex offender. We always ask, "What kind?".
99% of the time it's something like fooling around with their girlfriend and their parents didn't like it. We truly need a different term for these kids. I know, a teenager maybe?
I'm pretty sure I've been desensitized. If someone tells me they're a sex offender I reply with, "Okay.".
Thanks for your sensitive approach to these issues! In many segments of the foster care and adoption system even children who have never been accused of sexually misbehaving are unable to find homes who will love them simply because they have been the victims of abuse and are thus labeled "potential future sex offenders".
good reply xD
Another problem with the registry is how it destroys someones drive to be productive in society. If you get out and you have served your time, you want to get a job. You want to make things right. You want to prove you can operate in a normal state of mind and live a normal life.
But when you want to go get the job you want they say "no". When you want to go see a family member's high school sports game they say "no". When you want to live with a supportive friend but they live within a certain distance of a school, park, or playground they say "no." If you get convicted of public urination, they also say "oh by the way you can't care for the elderly in a nursing home and you have to delete your social network accounts". There in lies the lack of a true system that can take a look at the crime and categorize it accordingly.
A lot of the reasons that you may see people go back to prison is because every time they say "let me do these things to prove i can be productive" they continually keep getting restricted. It's no wonder that any type of person after getting out of jail has no motivation to do things when they constantly get shot down trying to do things that they said would help you maintain your sanity.
Honestly, the registry is just a "feel good law" so that sheriffs and politicians can get more votes the next time they run and can say what a great job they did making sure the sex offenders don't run rampant. But go dig up all the new cases not stemming from a recidivist and they are no where better off.
You said it perfectly
What if we came together and helped reform/abolish the registry we need people to educate and learn to be more rational
@rob Howell would you be interested in helping educating some idiots on TH-cam my group is also aware the registry is unconstitutional also do you have a contact to contact you
The Sex Offender registry is an abomination.
No matter the crime (and I think child molestation is heinous, as well as that many that do it deserve death), no one should be on any list once they serve their time.
If it's deemed by the judicial system that a person should no longer be in jail, that person should have all the freedoms available to them that anyone who has never been in jail does.
It's downright evil to have laws discriminating against people who have in the past served jail time, for anything. If we truly think a person is a danger, they shouldn't be let out to begin with.
***** victimless crimes aren't really crimes and so they shouldn't exist.
The problem is that we don't have an actual rehabilitation system. If there was something like court-ordered therapy in place or having your paychecks go to the victim until they're made whole, then we could get rid of this "once a criminal, always a convict" stigma. But no, all we do is throw people in a cage and let them rot, and if there's anything left of them by the end of it, we just piss on the ashes. Our society is diseased and disgusting.
*****
***** Not at all.
No one should be sentenced past the time that they are reasonably deemed to no longer be a danger.
Again, anyone not in jail should enjoy all the freedoms of anyone who's never been in jail. You're effectively sentencing someone to life if you put them on a list or deny them rights based upon a transgression they served their time for (if they are released). If they really pose a danger, they should not be outside of jail to begin with (and depending on the circumstances of their crime, perhaps not even alive). A person who has served their time in prison and has been released should be able to get on with their life. Denying them that does no one any good (except perhaps the businesses that make money off of all of this; which is another problem: the profit incentive needs to be removed entirely from the penal system.).
***** You need to re-familiarize yourself with what 'violent' means. Also, there are plenty of non-violent crimes out there. Theft being one.
The pertinent factor is if there is a victim or not, not whether it's violent or not. No one should be in jail, arrested, or anything else negative for a victimless crime.
These people need the ability to seek help, recognize their flaws, learn from their mistakes and move on. They can't grow and learn from their errors if society doesn't give them the tools and respect needed to do so.
Do you know, the UK and Canada consider that the way the US treats "sex offenders" is a violation of international human rights?
@@leonardodalongisland is that right
Jennifer if you're interested may I have you're contact I want allies to help educate some idiots on TH-cam
This country has fallen off the deep end and will never get up.
@OriginalRaw&Uncut We are witnessing the end of the once great United States of America
@@leonardodalongisland its time to resurrect America with educating some idiots on TH-cam if you're interested let me know
So many people think "sex offender" is a euphemism for "person who as an adult raped a child". I wonder what percentage that actually covers.
theknightswhosay alot less than you think. search any local registry near you and filter if by actual "predator". Many registries will differentiate between predator and non predator. A person who got caught with a couple pictures of child porn unknowingly on their computer still shows up on the same list as a sexually violent predator, but YOU have to do the little extra step to find that out. Most narrow minded people who don't understand these subtle differences are the ones who think every one is messed up in the head regardless of their crime
That's certainly true about female teachers. It's sickening. Male teachers would be sex offenders in many places even if the child was of legal age for someone who was not her (or his) teacher.
As a guy living in Norway I would suggest the following. People under the age of consent does not have the same laws for them. Its stupid that a kid can get his life ruined by doing stuff he may not know the consequence of. I would also say that the age of consent is abit high in the US but that is a minor problem compared to the story of a 12 year old forever being prosecuted for something stupid he did when he was a child.
Agreed. But it WAS that way at one time. Age of consent is now like 50 years old for women in some universities now without written documents saying they want to have sex.
5tevef comment of the century my friend. Well done have a cookie on me
Sounds like you might on one there "Handy Andy."
@@DorianPaige00 You sound like a perverted american.
Thank goodness we have government. I mean, how else would we systematically destroy our lives for no reason?
Rev0lutionIsMyName We need to grant amnesty to these people. No one deserves to live in America.
Hear hear! Anarchy would be so much better, especially the lynch mobs and castration specialists!
You couldn't have said it better
Its sad how the term " Sex Offender" is thrown around so easily. A registry intended to protect is hurting many who pose no threat to society or children.
His mom calls for help and rather than helping they just lock him up? I know what he did was wrong and it sounds like he knew he needed help?
I think people need to help these people true they messed up but they aren't fully dangerous as media and politics claim people regret what they do yet society still wants to do the whole draconian laws
I think it’s insane that someone that killed ppl literally ended their lives drunk driving can get off after like 14 years or so completely free and clear yet ppl who have mental health issues that made mistakes that clearly need professional help are treated worse than murders. Where’s the registry for murders or ppl who have killed others drunk driving? Who’s to stop them from hopping into another car and doing it all over again? There needs to be change in our justice system it’s fucking flawed.
yeah you right, in my country happen the same and I always says to people who likes to harass sex offender and labeled them like monster for ever...will you harass a ex convicted murder? or two houses there is living a drug dealer lets harass him, after all both people (murders and drugdealer) harmed someone even worst.
i am starting a worldwide petition to try and make the law about sex offenders into a much more sensible thing because personally i feel i shouldnt be on the thing - because ive never - nor will i ever sexually touch a child but ive still got 9 years to go.i would be most glad of your signature on : "reforming sex offenders laws for a much more effective system" -change
When i was in high school some freshmen got pressured into streaking at a football game and is now a sex offender for life.
Gotta love what our nation has become. Poor kid
@Rise Over here305 I don't think so but never new the kid other than the story and announcement at school. If the kid who killed himself is from STL maybe.
I wish I could understand exactly what it is about America that has led us down a path FAR more punitive than any other developed nation. Since we're a "nation of immigrants," and therefore the places we have come from are not nearly as keen on punishment of citizens as we are, how did we then get this way?
I wonder whether it could be as simple as ambition. Are US prosecutors more 'vicious" because they're more ambitious?
Leftism is the answer. The reason Leftism was so success in overtaking america is that Feminism was used as it's primary vehicle. Gynocentrism (our protective nature towards females) coupled with Marxist tactics on emotional topics, wholly and completely undermined common sense, religion, & even FACTS know to be true. imo. regards,
If you want to know the answer it's easy to find. I could tell you but you no doubt wouldn't believe me. There is so much documentation showing the origination of the laws that put this in place. Discover and be enlightened.
captnhuffy you are right but it is so much more fun blaming Christians for it. It seems Christians can be blamed for everything that isn't liked these days. ISIS is slaughtering Christians around the world and we are told it's because terrorists don't have jobs. Those Christians need to give them a job I guess.
Exactly which nation isn't a nation of immigrants based on how you are stating it?
The Romans controlled Europe and before them the vikings.
If we keep going back every country is built by immigrants.
That is the most commonly abused statement that mean utterly nothing
Michael Haimerl passing an opinion off as if it were a fact doesn't make you right.
It makes you disingenuous.
America may be the most secular country in the world.
It is the only country in the world where secularism is written into the laws.
Also,
It's freedom of religion, not freedom from it.
In America you can choose to worship or not.
Clearly you worship at the altar of atheism
and anyone who thinks different is a kind of infidel.
An interesting video. I had no idea one could be held beyond release date. I hope there will be more of these vids in the future.
Gotta keep those for profit prisons full at all times and any cost
The witch hunt is always more important than gaining real results. It is never driven by concern alone these pricks who have the power to keep that guy in for 2 years over his date they want power at any cost it seams.
P Hab Boy they need and enjoy that witch hunt..., so much they´ll stretch the meaning of witch beyond comprehension whenever they feel they´re running out of witches to hunt and wickermen to burn.
Yep agreed but it's nothing new unfortunately at least this time we have first hand accounts on history as people experienced it and future generations can make there own minds about history. Who knows what will happen to all the data but it's a chance. Well perhaps in another 1000 years earth will be closer to what we all hope it to be. Right now though we have a 3rd world war to start because the worlds broke again so it's time to put meat in the grinder and turn the handle again. Good luck all.
P Hab
Da fuck u talkin´bout? does any of that have anything to do with witch hunts and the common psycological and sociological mechanics of witch hunts, including the frequent interests and agendas of the ones behind them?
Are u nuts or something?
Is troll quality that low nowadays?
I can't help but think they only used the two most innocuous examples out of the group.
hoosierhiver Most likely, but is not uncommon. My cousin is now a registered sex offender for having consensual sex with his then 17yr 9mo fiance when he was 18yr 3mo. Yep they were only 6 mo apart. Yet in California they convicted him with a sex crime and now a registered sex offender for life. The laws need to be rewritten and there needs to be level of sex offender status that can drop off after a time depending on happen. Not as is now you are labeled a sex offender for life just as if you were some child rapist.
FuYing Bro That's terrible, I thought situations like that were taken under special consideration.
hoosierhiver Perhaps, but the problems still remain. If you make integration of a criminal after their sentence is served all but impossible, you are setting the stage for more crime further down the line or making the default penalty for most crimes life imprisonment.Not to mention I have yet to see any evidence that registries reduce crime, and just seems like an updated version of the scarlet letter, with the scandalous nature of anything sexually related being of more importance than actual harm reduction. It's public voyeurism.As it is, with the state acting as the ultimate helicopter parent, making even children walking to school illegal, I don't see much of anything changing with registries, except ever increasing amounts people being included on its rolls.
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A despotism under a democracy could see "a multitude of men", uniformly alike, equal, "constantly circling for petty pleasures", unaware of fellow citizens, and subject to the will of a powerful state which exerted an "immense protective power". Tocqueville compared a potentially despotic democratic government to a protective parent who wants to keep its citizens (children) as "perpetual children", and which doesn't break men's wills but rather guides it, and presides over people in the same way as a shepherd looking after a "flock of timid animals". ~Wikipedia
ZERO tolerance = Zero justice!
9 years for a consensual relation with a minor with only a two year difference? (14 - 16????) That's beyond fucked up. Makes me sick to think of that. What the fuck have we come to?
He was 19 when he slept with the 14 year old. He should have known better I don't feel bad for that guy at all.
I thought he said 16. Still, 9 years? For consensual sex with someone who is of legal age in some countries. Still pretty fucked up man. The fact that you have no sympathy for that person shows you have priorities wrong. People do less time for armed robbery, aggravated assault...
Shit I just saw a case the other day where a woman held a knife to a police man's throat in a police station, tried to cut his throat but didn't succeed because she stopped him, and she only manage to give him a small cut. She got off scot free on the argument that she was just threatening the policeman and planned to take him hostage so they would release her husband. She said she felt scared and trapped as a woman. She got community service. Another one where a woman hired a hitman (undercover cop with a camera proving all of it) to kill her husband. When the undercover asked her why she said it was because there was insurance money. In court she made the argument that her husband was abusing her, and she got off on probation. The justice system is fucked up man. Especially when there's no doubt that that 14 year old didn't press charges, wasn't "traumatized", and in all likelihood just wanted to have sex with an older guy. I'm not saying what he did shouldn't be illegal; it should be. But 9 years and a sex offender list for the rest of his life? For what he did at 19? If you think that's okay you're a thoroughly fucked up person.
Colin Bell in some countries 9 is the legal age. So what? He was an adult at 19 and 14 is a child and LOOKS like a child. The fact that does not disturb you means your priorities are wrong. We are taking the story of a grown man who thought it was OK to sleep with a 14 year old boy that he "had known for a long time and was really close to". So I doubt the sexual interest in the boy started at 14 but more like 12 or 13. I don't know about the other guys' stories and I am not saying that everyone on the list deserves to be there but that dude in particular needs to be on somebodies list. ( and I would say the same if he were a woman). Also I think we should keep in mind that we only have one side of these stories. It is really easy to feel sympathy when you don't hear from the other people involved.
DeShiia Coleman 9 years in prison. And he wasn't a grown adult, he was 19. I don't think it shouldn't be illegal, but the current consequences are far overkill.
19 is legally an adult and mentally a lot further ahead than 14. I donno what the sentence should be I think I would need to know more but I do think he is a good candidate for a watch list.
My fathers Catholic mom once made him wash his hands in holy water after he touched a dogs balls when he was a kid. These people are not reasonable.
Hairy Pixels How unreasonable! Children should should not have to wash their hands after handling a dogs balls.
Hairy Pixels Damn religious nuts! Everyone should be able to play with a dogs balls without fear of judgement or concerns about hygiene. I blame the Pope.
Hairy Pixels i would have asked her if i am allowed to touch the balls if i first wash them with holy water... fkin loons
Bill Pigg im dead comment of the day
People assume to know better and assume to be experts. I don't have all the answers but neither do unconnected vigilantes with a hit list or views of just exterminate them.
I know it's like kicking a man while he's down
Jesus. It would suck to live in America.
shchpendrop yeah it does suck here... And they make it impossible to leave the country
The only males who haven't had sexual contact with someone before 18 are the ones who never had a chance to, and you don't want to be as psychologically damaged as any of those guys.
Really, these guy's greatest crimes is being unattractive. If you're a good lookin' kid, what you can get away with is amazing.
C̶o̶n̶s̶t̶i̶t̶u̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶&̶ ̶B̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶O̶f̶ ̶R̶i̶g̶h̶t̶s̶ ̶ for people convicted of even minor sex crime.
Arguing sex offenders pose no threat to children is completely false. Convicted sex offenders have a 5% re-offense rate (meaning 5% of all convicted sex offenders recommit a sex crime). That is the smallest recidivism rates out of all criminal offenders (murderers have a higher rate of recidivism at 6%).
Statistically speaking there's a 5/100 odds of a sex offender molesting another child. There are also dozens of other factors not calculated in this statistical analysis, one such being identical circumstances to the original offense.
A sex offender who molests a child they are baby sitting if given the opportunity to continue to baby sit children, after a period of time of comfortability will have increased odds of re-offense.
So the question is what is a permissable risk %? The answer is 0% even if 1% was the odds it's too much.
Florida is on the right track with sex offenders, separating them from society is the correct course of action.
Florida has several towns in which sex offenders are permitted to live that keep them out of civil society. A sex offender shouldn't be left homeless or jobless (an unintentional side effect of their criminal conviction in most cases) yet it's a side effect steaming from their own decision to harm others.
States should provide housing and separation from society, giving them their own towns, with jobs, housing, etc.
If you're 12-year-old, touches your 8-year-old, you do not need help. You need to be a fucking parent. This is extremely common behavior. It's not unhealthy It happens all the time. It just requires having a talk with them. If it continues to persist after that, then you need a cause for concern and it mostly just requires separating the kids. If you need a "professional" to assist you with parenting, you never should have become a parent to begin with.
Woah! This is actually, not in fact normal.
@@itzystreamingplaylistsonch5471 Yes, it is. It's completely normal. It happens all the time. It's been going on for centuries. It's well recorded, well documented. There's a reason the phrase "playing doctor exists". Children get curious. And I know many kids growing up that were as well as myself and both of my siblings. And everybody who says what you said is the evil root of the real problem.
@@AtheosATFive hey so apparently this isn't clear. It's NOT ok to touch your siblings and not normal. People don't usually SA their siblings. K thanks
@@itzystreamingplaylistsonch5471 At what point did I say it was okay?
@@AtheosATFive reread your reply. Def borders on this is ok, you don't have to outright say it to put it out there
so if that 14 year old girl was having a "consensual sexual relationship" with another 14-16 year old its ok? No! When youre 14 you have no clue who you are and what you are doing in life! This GOOF is 19 (NINTEEN)! so HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER! A 14 YEAR OLD GIRL IS A CHILD!!! What if this girl was his daughter and some 19 year old is perving on her, how would he feel bout that???
allow sex offenders to access the internet.
What are the details of his case? what did he do to his sister? what does his mother or sister say about it?
All right, any interest that I may have ever had to go to America has gone.
That would suck I may be wrong but from what I have noticed there is more hatred for sex offenders then any other group and people don't really care what they are actually on there for so ya everyone would be judged just as badly.
State of Florida has ask us to disclose our sexual crimes to you we were bad but now we're good we're moving into your neighborhood
this sounds creepy.
Imagine if guy was running as a governor.😂 I dont side with him of course.
So few of these cases are violent. Almost all of these cases, regardless of the age of the people involved, are completely harmless and often times beneficial. Society is so into this idea that kids cannot give consent that they go ballistic with the legal system and end up hurting so many people in the process. Rape should be charged, not consensual sex.
Except the thing is kids can't consent. Your last sentence contradicts the rest of your "points"
Look up his name Wichita Falls 8-16-2022
Why do that when you can tell people he was re arrested for another sex crime at age 36 in Wichita Falls?
The police are awful. He did it at 12. Where is the statute of limitations?
Depending on the crime, some states there is none. just like Murder, can be charged 30 years later for a rape.
He was re arrested last year in Wichita Falls for another sex crime. smh
Disappointing really. This guy was getting support from his community and fucked up again. He didnt learn his lesson and he is reoffending. He knew what the consequences would be like. And he still chose to take that risk. He deserves whatever he's got coming to him. I would of been more sympathetic if he would remained clean. So, I guess the sex offender registry really kept the community safe didn't it?
Whenever I haven't been able to eat for a couple days, the videos I watch always show close up shots of food. I'd probably molest someone for one of those muffin cake thingys. just kidding. But this always happens when I'm hungry :( x
Wow you people are damaged.
While I do believe that if a person has stayed out of trouble for a long enough period of time that their name should come off the registry. This idea that the registry or laws to protect children from predators are draconian is insane.
I am sure that if it was you or your child whose life was ruined by a predator you would all feel differently.
I agree I think the main problem is that all sex offenders on considered equally bad socially I dunno if making a different sight for minor ones would help there should be something done some someones life is not completely ruined and assume by everyone to be a child rapist.
Yeah, not towards the person but towards myself. If you can't do your job as the parent THE CHILD'S FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE. THEN WHY DID YOU HAVE THEM EM? I had the same argument with my mother as to why she had me. Her response was because she felt like it. NOW, tell me if you are the parent WHY WOULD YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO YOUR CHILD?
If these dudes were created in gods image ...
The S O , in the thumbnail , only 2 1/2 years encarceraton ? Woah , that’s really a short time . I did 20 years ! And now I do the Megan’s law /sorna , and that’s forever ! So you got off light . So what therapy did you get while you were in ? And what therapy are you getting while you’re out ? AND THEN ,what have you learned ? I doubt you leaned anything !
Look up women against registry.
horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think either of these men realize how fucking creepy they are and that they probably do pose a threat to children. LOL
My brother did nasty saft to me when i was 7
Lena Dunham has publicly admitted doing as much.
95% know their predator. That's not true. It's 75% but even if it was 95% does the other percentage matter any less ? Take some fucking responsibility.
You're right though it's not 95% it's 94%.
white men of course lol
trust me bruh, there are a lot of niggas on the registry, just as much as white ppl
bizarro world