ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- My Socials:
Patreon: / nayruyt
Discord: / discord
Twitter: / nayruyt
TikTok: / nayru_s
---
Ages Ring Guide: www.linkshidea...
Seasons Ring Guide: www.linkshidea...
Video Credit: World of Longplays ( / @worldoflongplays_
---
Nintendo just announced the imminent release of Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons on the Nintendo Switch Online service! These are real classics of 2D Zelda, and are up there with the likes of A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening. But which OoX game should you play first? In this video I will answer the question, of whether OoS or OoA make a better starting point.
For folks who don’t know, the Oracle games were the first Zelda games done by Hidemaro Fujibayashi, who directed Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom.
kind of weird because the Oracle games actually have a fairly solid story, right?
@@carnage0685he also directed Skyward Sword (and I believe Minish Cap) so not really
@@carnage0685 Yeah but BotW/TotK having somewhat of a minimalist story feels like a deliberate choice so I wouldn't count it as an indicator of his (or the staff's) true capabilities.
@@Gabo2oo BotW's story wasn't even that good, but somehow it was better than TotK. It didn't have anything that felt downright amazing but it fleshed out the Champions, had some cool moments with Link defending Zelda from the Yiga Clan as well as the army of Guardians, as well as Zelda confronting the Calamity all on her own.
TotK had some good stuff too- Both of the scenes that involved Ganondorf killing Sonia and upgrading himself with her stone were great, as well as the chilling opening cutscene, but then you have dumb shit like the Ancient Sages telling you nearly the exact same story 4 different times (5 if you count Mineru although she told you something different too), the obvious and unbearably long drawn out reveal of the new Zelda being a puppet of Ganondorf, and the ending undoing a lot of the meaning behind Zelda's sacrifice, not to mention getting rid of Mineru for little to no reason. If they fixed the things wrong with it it could have very well been a noticeable step up from BotW, but with all the flaws it had it just stands below it for me.
@@carnage0685 I haven't finished TotK so I'll have to read your full comment later, but I WILL say I'm hating how inconsistent the worldbuilding is about which BotW events happened and which didn't, more than anything. (Worst part so far is Hudson and Rhondson greeting Link while the other Tarrey Town neighbors treat him like an outsider).
Koei Tecmo couldn't commit to make a real prequel to BotW and now the Zelda team is proving they can't commit to a sequel either.
Guess a new generation of fans are gonna start thirsting for Veran.
Absolutely
@@NayruYT will she beat Purah though lol
As an og fan of the oracle games I can confirm Veran is uwu mommy
@@DjDeadpigIs it wrong I was still thirsting even when she became a spider?
@@TheRedBaron1917 I mean people simp for muffet from UT.
My overall favorite of the Oracle games is Oracle of Seasons. Ages was a fine game, but I had a lot more memories of Seasons, and like you said, it's easier to play than Ages.
Jesus loves you so much he died for you! So turn to him before its too late!
@@sakuparkkonen2959 That's a fictional character.
@@tiporossoActually, historical records do indicate Jesus as a real human who lived during the Roman occupation of the Judaea region of the Middle East. How far you go outside of those records in terms of religious belief is up to you though.
The “person” you’re replying to, however, is a bot, and so is actually fictional, so that’s also something to consider in the future.
@@Dyundu The only thing that there is consensus about is that "there might have been some guy called Jesus". Jesus Christ is to Jesus what Santa Claus is to Saint Nick, Jesus without the unproven miracles is essentially a normal person and that bot is using as a way of threatening others "before it's too late".
For the Bread pirate he is so much more fun than your face Nauru
Imo it depends on what you're good at as a player. Personally, I love the dungeon and puzzle solving aspects of Zelda (Water temple is one of my favorite dungeons), so starting off with Ages was fantastic for me. It also helps that I kinda suck at 2D zelda combat, so carrying over some of the stronger gear into Seasons was nice for me.
Certainly! I've just experienced that even people who like puzzles in Zelda tend to be caught offguard by how staggeringly confusing some of the Ages dungeons can be, so I think Seasons makes a good warmup
But yeah if you are a puzzle fiend, no reason you can't start with Ages!
Absolutely! I can definitely see why you’d recommend Seasons first for a casual audience that may have never played a 2D Zelda before
Same here, I'd also consider Ages to Seasons the easier path.
It's combat/dungeon-focused and therefore that extra heart container will make things easier.
@@NayruYT The only thing that counts against both games is that they have an early game wall that's not linked to the 'zelda playstyle' for the most, with the 'kindest take of Simon' I've ever seen in a video game (always 3 inputs, so no long chains to bank into your short term memory) in Seasons and the passing mini game in Ages. Though, I'd say that the passing mini game 'between dungeons 2 and 3' in Ages is much more rough than the Simon game in Seasons as it's easier to mess up and you're forced to pay 10 rupees per go (Granted, that's also been mitigated by the rewind system and load state system, but you can also save and continue on original hardware as well, but that has a longer 'get back into the game time'), whereas it's free to do the progression blocking minigame for free in Seasons
Ages also has a more complex story and world, as well as a way more challenging final boss, so it really does work well as the second game, and this is coming from someone who played Ages way before even getting Seasons.
Subrosian's and Tokay's need to come back in a future Zelda game. Hell, Moosh and Ricky's species need to come back as well.
Finally, can't wait to revisit both of these!
What are you playing first?
Probably going to go with seasons, like you recommended. Interestingly enough when I was a kid I actually started with ages because that's the only one that I had. Now we just need the third game in the collection starring Farore
I actually prefer to do Ages first. I agree with most of your points (Ages being a bit harder), but I find fighting Ganon much easier with the cape.
I just want to support the creator by arguing with you in the comments and telling you: nuh-uh
Fym nuh uh
@@BuskingAndChessI’m starting with ages first lol idc
Lol on my first play through last year I did Ages first and then Seasons, because I had heard that the story elements that carried forward were more neatly wrapped up in that order. That said, I definitely noticed the disparity in challenge between games that you point out here. The end result wasn't me being turned off form the games necessarily, but what it did cause was for me to greatly prefer Ages over Seasons. Then again, I am already someone who loves challenging puzzles in Zelda dungeons, and in general am a bit of a video game masochist, so maybe that played a part in it lmaooo
No that makes total sense, the stark contrast in gameplay philosophy between the two means it is very easy to have a favourite!
I generally play Ages first. By doing so, you get a conclusion to Ambi's and the Pirate Capt's story. However, no extra side story by playing Seasons first.
Finally found someone who knows this. Storywise Ages to Seasons make more sense.
I think the side story of playing Seasons then Ages is supposed to be where the Subrosian dance comes from. Though personally I’d agree that resolving the couple’s love story is more interesting. (Funnily enough I was actually able to piece together who Queen Ambi’s lover was when playing Seasons first.)
By playing Ages first, Onox mentions how you defeated Veran. But Veran doesn’t acknowledge Onox’s defeat.
Ages makes it feel like the stakes are higher than they were in seasons. Onyx feels like the meat head general you have to get past in order to fight the crafty Veran. It especially adds a whole new level of story when you get to the end of a linked game.
Love that you give people the choice to pick the short or detailed answer, everyone can appreciate that
I typically don't like combat, so I bought Ages on the 3DS a while ago, but then realized that puzzles weren't really for me either. Unfortunately 2D zelda isn't suuuuper my jam, but I'm too stubborn and invested in the lore to NOT at least make attempts every once in a while. Definitely noted to mess around with Seasons on the switch first!
I'd always wanted to see if I could get a reproduction GBC cartridge and see if it worked cross-platform for passwords though 🤔
I can feel that, 2D and 3D Zelda are fairly different beasts
In my mind i always think that the difficulty in dungeons should be more like ages since its a temple/dungeon etc. That was sealed for a reason so why would it be just empty rooms with no riddles trying to keep the person who got inside from getting the treasure? And the more i think about it the more sense it would make that its this messy labyrinth
Of rooms/enemies trying to keep me from succeeding in my quest.
Unlike games like totk that have temples holding huge powerfull stones that any and i mean any noob that knows how to climb could just reach! Just look at the fire temple for example in totk it might be the worst 3d zelda dungeon i have ever seen and the water temple might be even worse.
I played through these on the 3DS and I did it Seasons -> Ages. Glad I did that route since I found I prefer Ages.
It is a great game!
Jabu jabu in Ages is legit the only dungeon in Zelda history that forced me to use a walk-through. Absolutely brutal.
i prefer two play ages before seasons
I always liked the Ages first and then Seasons.
Ever considered doing a count down of how tough the puzzles are in dungeons for 2D and 3D?
A great idea!
@@NayruYTCause I always wondered how difficult these puzzles were to an adult compared to what a kid would "assume" is hard.
Like the Eagle Tower in Awakening is definitely on the harder side and like you said Lord Jabu as well
Season’s intro cutscene takes place during the daytime. Ages intro cutscene takes place during sunset. I have since childhood assumed that means seasons first ages second. And Verin is a way better boss fight IMO
I grew up on Ages, and it’s my personal favorite 2D Zelda game. I guess I’m so used to it now that I never considered how difficult it might be for first time players. I loved the puzzles in that game and the fact that you get such a large map to travel around in and underwater areas to explore. It’s very much a game that punches above its weight!
Poor Minish Cap and Link to the Past :3
I played Season first and then Ages.
Ages has so many obnoxius minigames and puzzles like Gorons Dance Hall and the Librarian invisible floor that you needs to do twice, is not the dungeons and it puzzles (that i found the colored dice and the colored statues pretty neat puzzles) but thouse 2 minigames/puzzles that demotivated me alot so much that i resorted to Save States.
Seasons is also my favorite of both due it seasons gimmick, the Roc Cape, the Magnet Glove, Subrosia and the Subrosians as well the better Rosa(Not that i hates Waifu Tree).
Not that Ages don't haves it value despite all thouse issuses, like for example explorable underwater sections and the time travel mechanic realy expands the amount of places to explores a felling that i could not have whit the season changing gimmick nor Subrosia offers that much exploration expansion.
Ages-to-Seasons provides lore accuracy. While Seasons-to-Ages has its loopholes.
Queen Ambi’s given plenty of character development, but Rosa is likely a throwaway.
I started with seasons emulated on my phone and I honestly had a very difficult time with the action and I never finished it.
I'd have a tumor playing ages next....
so nah.
It's been long enough since I played them on the original cartridges that I will be 100% lost regardless of what order I play in! 😂😂😂
Hahaha fair!
Your video is very informative, but are you tired? I ask that because you sound tired in your narration and lack much enthusiasm. Great video though, but my constructive criticism since I do like this video but definitely noticed the lack of enthusiasm in narration, try to speak in a more excited tone without overdoing it. That can be complicated of course because enthusiasm is good but too much enthusiasm is obnoxious.
A friend of mine said it best. Narration is an art. It takes practice. I don't do narration as much as I used to and I'm sure there are things I can improve upon as well. Good luck growing your channel and thank you for clearing things up on which game to play first.
So I once had both of these games on my 2DS via the eShop years ago. Okay they are still on my 2DS but since having a Switch I almost never played the 2DS despite a lot of great 3DS and DS and downloaded games on it. But yes I did play a little of both Oracle games on 2DS. Never played them on Gameboy Color as for whatever reason I didn't play much Zelda back then besides A Link to the Past.
I've heard that Seasons is more combat orientated and Ages is more puzzle orientated. Thank you for reminding me of that, I completely forgot. So I chose Ages first because honestly time travel always sounds cooler. After returning to the Maku tree in the present after saving it in the past I decided to start Seasons and I even noticed that I completed the first dungeon in a time not much longer than it took to go to the past, save the baby tree and see the tree again in the present in Ages.
So to go along with what you said about Ages being harder, it appears to be even longer because it took surprisingly long to get to the first dungeon in Ages while it took a pretty short time to get there in Seasons. I'm probably going to try to progress through both games at the same time, but I get the feeling I'll likely have Seasons done first since it is a shorter game.
I'm actually just getting over an illness in which I lost my voice for a while! So it was still pretty weak when I recorded, and I was not able to record with my normal cadence. I wanted to wait til my voice was better, but Nintendo kinda sprung the Oracle games outta nowhere!Thanks for sticking it through anyways!
@@NayruYT That explains it. Have a nice recovery. Yeah the Oracle games came as a huge surprise. Went ahead and played them day 1 of them being available. About to go a little off topic here.
Pretty cool Nintendo released those, but I'm still annoyed with how rare it is for there to be new releases on any of the classic games for the Switch online especially the more than double the regular price expansion pack. They haven't added an N64 game since Goldeneye and that was months ago. They haven't added a Genesis game in ages(and I realize the irony there with ages being some Sega reference used in certain media especially with Ages being Sega backwards), and it was nice of them to add the first internationally released Fire Emblem on the GBA online but other than that, it's like we wait a month for them to add like 3 total games across 6 different platforms. I don't get what is the holdup at Nintendo.
On a journey this summer to beat every Zelda on the Switch. Nearing the end of SS. I've only skipped Zelda 2. Also played WW on Gamecube and TP on Wii. These games in at a perfect time. After them I only have BoTW and ToTK left (will do all dungeons on a existing file where I have the Master Sword already in BoTW and do DLC Part 2 before fighting Calamety Ganon).
Hey, wishing you an easy journey through the rest of your playthrough!
Missing out on Zelda 2
@@LuigiXHero Tried it, but got lost after the first dungeon. Didn't like the fighting style.
I never knew about the difficulty spike on Ages, but even without that I tend to do the manga order (seasons then ages) and even without the manga order I did Seasons first because of the Red Ring which makes the Ages games utterly broken...
They have a great story too!!! Just awesome seeing these again.
I'm abit conflicted with this since I really would have loved those games to get a remake
Seasons, most definitely. Ages has a more obtusely designed overworld and is worse overall.
I played seasons first because that was how the manga followed the linked order of games.
Ages first, just because a Linked Seasons game finishes a hanging plot thread about Queen Ambi.
I hear the love for these games - but they aren't as good as link's awakening or link to the past. They fall short in some areas - music for one..with both suffering from poor scores for almost the entire playthrough. The story in both also just doesnt quite have as much imagination as the Nintendo made games. They are great games tho - just not the best 2D games for me.
Dang I strongly disagree both counts haha, I'd listen to the Dancing Dragon Dungeon theme from Seasons or the Skull Dungeon theme from Ages over just about anything in ALTTP.
I do agree that LA has a better story, but ALTTP basically doesn't have a story outside of the manual and a trace amount of cutscenes, so I'll disagree there too.
In terms of game design, I think the Oracle games very obviously have lots of imagination. The intricacy of the dungeons in Ages blow anything in ALTTP out of the water, and Holodrum is significantly more interesting to explore than Hyrule or Koholint. The game's have extremely diverse and creative bosses whereas most of the ALTTP bosses are floating eyeballs and worms.
We'll definitely need to agree to disagree on this one haha
@@NayruYT I really enjoyed both games - played through and completed them in lockdown. Am a massive Zelda fan and love the entire series so it just comes down to personal preference when talking about rankings. I hope they get a remake alongside LA - as they deserve it.
I always played Ages first, but that's largely because I didn't buy Seasons until a few months after I got Ages.
I would say play Ages first, since I got Ages before I got Seasons back in the day.
I like Seasons more than Ages but I'd say newbies should go Ages first just so they have the Master Sword for Onox. (I forget his name now.) You need to spin attack him with the lvl 2 sword to do any damage and that always throws people off.
Yea, Zelda veteran, Seasons was one of the last ones I needed to finally get through. I dabbled on a copy of Ages but didn't really play both until the 3DS. After the complete blindside of needing to use Pagasus Seeds in a previously never used way for the 2nd to last boss, and then having to do spin attacks for Onox, I just raged quit. Ages is hard, but at least it's possible to figure it out. Seasons is cryptid for no reason despite being easier.
Omg I literally just started OOA today just missed the video lol 😂
Haha wishing you the best of luck!
Seasons first if you follow the canon (OoS is ALWAYS listed before OoA in ANY official publications [guides, manuals, mangas], except this trailer) and love Donkey Kong references, Ages first if you want to see a good NPC story.
I actually had Oracle of Seasons as a kid along with LADX but never had Ages so I'm more experienced with Seasons than Ages and yeah Ages is really brutal compared to Seasons but it does have a better story I feel. Seasons is very barebones in the plot department with its world feeling more very rural while Ages felt more Urban with a Kingdoms and everything.
I had LADX and Seasons too! I did eventually play Ages as I borrowed it from my cousin. I really liked the rings in this game. There were lots of secrets and postgame stuff.
Just finished Oracle of Ages and yeah. I can see the difficulty of these puzzles. Jabu-Jabu is killing me. It took me 2 days to complete it (with breaks since I was on a trip).
Let's hope that Seasons won't ruin my playthrough. I'm enjoying it, while I had a rough time with the 2nd dungeon.
How refreshing it is to have a short answer in the first 2 minutes of the video, thank you for that.
I had to use a guide for Jabu-Jabu's because I got lost, that was the first time in the game, just to make it though, and I've been playing Zelda games for decades.
I liked the Mario type reference they had in the game, like Donkey Kong.
Yeah Jabu-Jabu is kind of insane
I played ages first, and seasons second, so I have the secret advantage for combat.
I like to alternate between the two games whenever I play them. The only consistent thing I will do in the games is name the baby It for humorous dialogue from Blossom. My favorite lines are “I hope It grows up to be big and strong!” and “It looks sick….”
A fun idea as well!
I still need to sit down and replay them on switch but I just wanted to come here to say
WE WON!!
Hell yeah we did!!!
I played Oracle of Ages first my first time and I loved it. I prefer it over Oracle of Seasons. These games are really underrated.
I played Oracle of Ages first time too years ago in Gameboy Color. Ah the good old days.
I never knew the differences in difficulty or focus of the 2 games, I think I played them both at the same time progressing slowly through each, boy I sure wish I had this video before my first play throughs but I’ll definitely play them in your suggested order this go round.
Playing them at the same time can be fun, but then you miss out on all the awesome linked game content, unless you replay them both at the same time again!
@@NayruYT yes, sadly I never got to experience the true ending by linking the games. I did play them on 3DS and am not sure if it worked that way. However, I did recently got both games physically, so I’m planning on replaying them on my gameboy SP
That would be great advice how _not_ to play these games. Don't play them at the same time. One by one in whichever order, but never simultaneously.
Would be cool though if the game was that advanced where the player could update either game with a code from the other game at certain checkpoints.
@@altairicgaming7108 I think you should be able to link them on 3ds since the game just uses passwords instead of a link cable.
I got Ages as a christmas present when i was 6 or 7 years old. It took me Years to get to Jabu Jabu and was completely lost and we didn't have stable internet at the time so i couldn't look up a guide or similar. And then i lost the card and never finished it. so now i am just happy to be able to play it again and finally beat both games.
I wish you best of luck conquering Jabu Jabu this go around!
@@NayruYTthat dungeon was ridiculously difficult.
I see people say Ages is the better game a lot, but I genuinely disagree. Seasons is more fun and has a more unique concept imo. Maybe it's because I don't really like puzzles.. but I'm excited to play Seasons again, but I don't know if I can bring myself to play ages again. The goron dancing alone made me almost give up on Ages my first time :l
Subrosian dancing 🔛 🔝
Small but impactful nitpick on the audio:
It's too quiet. Have you tried normalizing your audio tracks?
Irrespective of the quality of the video content itself, this poses a big inconvenience:
Those people that will want to hear will increase the audio, resulting in the next video they watch to be too loud.
Others just won't bother and jump right to the next video.
Audio is eternally tough to get right, I sent the video to a half dozen different people before uploading and none of them found it quiet but upon comparing it to my other videos at equal volume settings, I can see that you are right. I'll need to investigate why that is since I used the same post-production settings I always do, but clearly something went wrong somewhere. Thanks for pointing it out!
@@NayruYT I see. I can vaguely remember having issues with normalizing the sound if there were other sound bites in the track that were disproportionately loud. (Depending on how the 'normal' values are defined outliers might skew the median.)
If you just want to check whether the audio is too loud or too quiet in general, I'd simply get some 'professional' videos from well-known TH-camrs and compare them to your video (either by simply playing them side by side, or comparing the waveforms in the editing software.)
There like underwear. You can wear them inside out, sideways and backwards, and upside down lol. There really is no right answer. Yeah the joke is from Big Hero 6 with Stan Lee RIP.
rip Stan Lee!
I’m surprised people think ages is difficult??? I beat it when I was like 11. It was definitely tedious, everything took forever to do but it wasn’t difficult
If you look at the layout of Jabu Jabu and can't see how some people would struggle with it, I don't know what to tell you
I have to disagree with this. The puzzles in ages were challenging but not brutal and most let you take your time and make mistakes. Meanwhile people massively underplay how much seasons ramps up the combat challenge compared to Ages. We also live in the internet age where guides can help with puzzles in a pinch, but nothing can make combat any easier.
I suppose if you're willing to look up the answers to puzzles, then naturally Ages will be the easier of the two. I just assume most people won't be doing that haha.
As for saying the Ages puzzles are not brutal, I'll just have to agree to disagree! And the litany of people sharing their own Jabu Jabu horror stories makes me feel as though I'm not alone in that one!
It is nice that either order works regardless!
I'm stoked they're finally on the Switch! I cannot wait to play these again. I generally agree with your game order when talking about dungeon difficulty. However, I think it's a different difficulty curve for bosses and minibosses. In my opinion, Seasons has a much steeper curve in this regard. Unfortunately though, this rising difficulty in bosses doesn't continue if a player ends with Seasons. They'll go from harder and harder bosses only to fight a Twinrova and Ganon that are too easy. The Seasons gear is all based around combat and it makes a huge difference against those combined game bosses. So, if I want a harder dungeon experience and a harder Twinrova and Ganon fight, I'll end on Ages. If I want a rising difficulty in bosses and minibosses (minus Twinrova and Ganon), I'll end on Seasons.
Personally, I have a huge bias towards Seasons! It's my favorite 2D Zelda and 4th favorite Zelda game overall. I just love the combat focus so much! It also has a world that's easy to navigate, vibrant visuals, a cool central game mechanic, and the amazing subworld of Subrosia. I don't like Ages as much, but each time I play it, I like it a bit more. It's a very solid 2D experience. I just don't dig the puzzle focus as much.
Sweet vid, I have never played either and while I am looking for rom hacks to make them more palpable as the games are old, I will play vanilla first and take your advice to play seasons then ages, though I would have no issue with zelda games puzzles.
I think the games have aged pretty well, but there are definitely some aspects I'd love to see touched up on in a remake
What about those of us who already started playing Zelda: Oracle of Ages, It's not that complicated to finish, right?
You'll be fine, some of the dungeons are real tough but you can always just bust out a walkthrough if you get totally stumped
If it makes you feel better I started with ages and uhh I like it hahah.
Always found Seasons to be first then Ages. Seasons pass faster than ages. 4 seasons in a year... many years in an age. But that's far too logical!
I think it makes sense to do Ages first and have the final battle in Seasons, Seasons can feel much shorter than ages so no reason not to extend it this way.
My thoughts exactly.
A weird thing while its worse in a gameplay sense, a lot of the small storylines make more sense in the reverse order like Queen Ambi renuinting Cap'n, a zora in holodrum that traveled to labrynna, a goron finding the history people and Onox metions Veran but Veran never metions Onox in the linked games. And I know Seasons starts first in the manga but the mangas aren't canon even by Aonuma's own admission.
Edit: I originally meant Seasons to Ages was better in a gameplay sense and the opposite in reverse and story being slightly better as well to point out the diffrences on what order you play in my unedited comment and edited it to reflect that sorry for any confusion I might have caused.
Edit 2: I agree with playing Seasons first then Ages for the same reasons just wanted to point out this for those who want to know the both games are connected
Edit 3: apparently I accidentally mixed up it was where and when zelda and impa was when you first meet them in those games and conflating it with how link arrives in both countries and deleted that statement to reflect that, it's been a while since a I properly played the orcale games since I lost the cartridges and had to go from memory and walk-throughs statements from people who played the oracle games
Yeah you are absolutely correct that the story flows better between the two, and I probably should have mentioned that. But to me the brutal difficulty differential offsets what is ultimately some pretty minor story threads.
@@NayruYT I agree with you just wanted point it out just case especially since I recommend for alot of people after you play Seasons -> Ages first for the gameplay and getting taste how fun these two games can be then after that for those who want to dive deep in the story and lore like with all other Zelda games I reccomend playing with Ages -> Seasons at least once on a subsequent playthrough to get a general gist of what's going and how they are connected but that's my personal opinion
Wait what? I am pretty sure that in both games he teleports to the respective country. He uses a boat in the end of a linked game.
@@id-f8679 My bad apparently it was where and when zelda and impa was when you first meet them in those games I got mixed up with when trying to gather info ( like translations and Japanese interviews) for these games and it has been a while since a I properly played the orcale games I lost the cartridges and had to go from memory and walk-throughs statements from people who played the oracle games
@@DeltaNovo You can use an emulator to play them
When i binged on the series for most of 2018, I played Seasons linked into Ages first, then Ages linked into Seasons. Given that they were developed by Capcom, it's really not all that surprising that they work on the same principle as Resident Evil 2, down to things that happen when you play them one way that don't the other way. It's for this reason that I've previously pitched hacks of the games that replace Link as the protagonist in Seasons with Leon S. Kennedy and in Ages with Claire Redfield.
These games aged like fine wine and still play awesome. I agree, start with Seasons and do Ages second, even if you’re a seasoned player who’s already completed these games back in the day and it’s been a while.
More ppl who started with Seasons prefer Ages over people who started with Ages that prefer Seasons... therefore Ages is the better game! Enjoy!
I'd be curious to see your dataset since most people in these comments seem to prefer Seasons haha
That being said they are both masterpieces so it is like comparing top of the line cars. You won't be disappointed either way.
@@NayruYT It's on some janky website taken 10 years ago lol , I was testing to see if Bias effected the perception (aka, whatever game someone started with, they would say its their favorite) . More people who started with Seasons said Ages, so that made it the winner for me. you could create a poll for us to vote in : )
I struggled a bit with seasons because where Iive the seasons are all pretty similar, so in the game I'd forget what season does what
Bless U ♥️
As a kid playing ages as my first zelda game made each dungeon feel like a adventure that i will never forget!
Going from pokemon,goof troop puzzles to this was an experience i will never forget.
I also got only like 2/3 games a year so i did play them to death and it made me appreciate them
Unlike kids nowadays who play games for 5 mins and then give up and donwload the next crap mobile game.
If you like puzzles more (like myself) start with ages. The dungeons in these games will scratch that itch that tears of the kingdom severely lacked.
I started with ages, because I'm real man 😂
Honestly, whatever one you want to play through three times for a 500% run of the Oracle games. If you want the full experience, you're gonna end up playing Normal OoA/OoS > Linked OoS/OoA > Hero OoS/OoA > Linked OoA/OoS, plus potentially a final Hero run of whatever you picked first.
It's amazing how different these two games feel despite being on identical engines and graphic styles. Seasons has a lighter adventuring tone and is definately way easier, but I prefer Ages for the feel of its more darker and foreboding world.. which is nicely reflected in Veran who I think is the better villain compared to Ornox. Also love the main town in Ages, it's way more nostalgic for some reason.
And ha it's nice to see Jabu Jabu's Belly mentioned, the amount of running all over the dungeon trying to deduce what the one thing you didn't do correctly, or wondering what the one vital thing or place you missed was is a crazy experience. So satisfying to figure out though.
I will play Oracle of Ages first because I got the cartridge with the Lime GBC I bought from marketplace and that's the only one I have :D Ain't scared of a puzzle man, 1991 kid here lol
I had both games back when the Game Boy Color was brand new and loved them! Then got them on my 3DS through the arcade thing (can’t remember what it’s called now) and now I’m playing them on my Switch starting with Ages and I’m loving it!
When I played them on 3DS, I tried to play both roughly in sync (I.e, alternating between dungeons), followed by both versions of the Linked game.
If you play them both in sync then you'll have to play one of them again for the final result. Not recommended unless you're a completionist that wants to do all four combinations to notice the slight differences in the NPC stories.
@@Trazynn I wouldn’t call myself a completionist, but I do keep an IMDb list of games that I’ve finished to my own satisfaction (usually not 100%) and I felt I couldn’t include the Oracle games without beating Twinrova and Ganon in both versions.
The quests between games canonically make more sense and flow better if you play ages THEN seasons, please do this.
The story difference is so minimal that gameplay optimization is way more important
If you care about 100% play Ages first. You can’t get 100% on a first playthrough because you’ll lack a heart, but an ages playthrough that isn’t linked also leaves a map square that can’t be entered. So you want to start with Ages > linked Seasons > hero secret Seasons > linked Ages. This keeps both those flaws in one game of the 4.
I say Ages, same the best (Seasons) for last
I’m playing both at the same time
The thing I did as I played them both at the same time. At first I played them both and just wandered around but then I choose a game and explore the intended area and go to finish the dungeon then switch to the other game and do the same. I keep going back and forth until I finished them relatively at the same time and it was a wonderful experience. I haven't played them connected yet but I would do the same.
I have to completely disagree with this. Despite Ages supposedly having harder puzzles than Seasons (that's what people keep telling me, at least) I literally never noticed any difference in puzzle difficulty while playing, since 95% of all Zelda puzzles are child's play regardless. What I did notice was that despite having already defeated Veran the very first miniboss of Seasons still gave me trouble. I also noticed that Onox was nearly impossible to beat even with the Master Sword from the linked game. Ages -> Seasons means a good difficulty prgoression, while doing Seasons first would likely make you tear your hair out over Seasons' difficulty just to then become bored to tears playing Ages due to how easy it is in comparison.
Browse this comment section to find a litany of people reminiscing about how insanely tough they found Jabu Jabu's belly, maybe you're just a whiz at puzzles.
On the reverse, I find it genuinely hard to believe that the first Seasons mini-boss, the Goriya Brothers, who wander the room and lazily throw boomerangs, could give anybody any sort of meaningful trouble.
Different strokes for different folks!
@@NayruYT To be fair, I had become accustomed to having like 14 heart containers and then brought down to just 4, so I was caught off guard by how vulnerable my character was.
@@alvedonaren ah yeah that makes sense!
I remember getting these when I was like 7 or 8 years old and thinking ages was the best game ever made at the time. Got to play it on a 5 hour flight.
If you care about story consistency, I'd say Ages should be first - as whichever game you play first will have Impa introduce herself to the player, while the second will have her be like "good to see you again! too bad the world's in danger here too". This wouldn't be an issue, but with how Ages starts its plot it would be a bit too obvious to first-time players if they went with Seasons first as they're already familiar with Impa as a character; why is she introducing herself to us again, and why is she blue now? (Papyrus intensifies) As such, to prevent the intro plot twist from having less impact, I'd recommend going with Ages and following up with Seasons.
What order? I personally started with ages. And in all honesty, I think it ages is the better of the two games, but that's just my personal opinion.
There were GBC games that pushed the graphics to its limit, like Perfect Dark. But the Zelda Oracle games truly pushed the GBC way beyond what people thought was possible in gameplay depth and world building.
I only had ages as a kid. Because I found it at a garage sale . I remember it being difficult , but I didn’t know it was considered so difficult . but that’s why I loved it so much. And beating Veran felt like such an accomplishment.
Edit: these are my favourite 2d Zelda games too . I LOVE games with cool mounts . So Moosh alone makes these games awesome
I agree with this order for newcomers, this is my experience: I first tried Ages in emulator a decade or so ago. It was HARD, and that is not an understatement. But not cheap hard like NES games, hard because of puzzles, overworld progression, unique items to the game, etc. I actually couldn't complete a certain Dungeon and stopped playing!
After some years, I finally tried Seasons and then Ages when they were released for the 3DS and I actually beat them! Very satisfying but the difficulty was still no joke
I knew you were gonna make a video about this 😅
Huehue of course
Absolutely WILD you think Seasons is easier. Even with carry over rings I couldnt beat Seasons without save states near the end on 3ds. I even quit Seasons as a kid because it was so frustrating, only finally seeing the linked ending as an adult.
I hope for a Zelda with puzzles as good as Ages again. It was my intro to Zelda, but it turned out it wasn't the standard Zelda formula. I do not play for combat and Seasons is SO much harder because of the combat.
Obviously I always play Ages first. It also just has better characters and story.
I beat Link's Awakening remake about a month ago, then beat the DX version, and almost immediately after they announced both games for the emulator, I was so happy because one year before I beat Minish cap and I'm also a big fan of A link to the past; so that meant that I could play more 2D zelda games. I will start with Seasons and then beat Ages last, I'm so excited to play them. THanks for the video.
Got ages back in 2003 and i grew up playing it, ive played ir so much i have the entire game memorized every item ever cave every chest every dugeon every puzzle etc. Ages is tied with majoras mask as my 2nd fav game of all time, ages is a masterpiece
Edit: ages version of jabu Jabus belly and mermaids cave are 2 of the greatest dungeons in all of Zelda masterfully designed
I remember hating going through Seasons for the first time, but when I went to Ages I just simply couldn't put it down.
So I'll give Seasons another chance someday. Though using the codes. They're really useful.
I never got to play these as a kid. I was 10 when it came out, or around that age. 9 when I started the zelda series on 64. I just started ages first and love it ❤ I'm 32. I'll be 33 on august 24.
thank you for suggesting to play Seasons first... yeah if I start with ages first I would have dropped the games early on. Some of the puzzles in Ages is just straight up cheating on the game's part.
Not to mention the "dance" section in Ages is crazy hard, it would've been impossible for me had there was no save state in the NSO.
Good question. Do you want to play the Donkey Kong level? Then play Seasons, then use the password on your way to Ages. Do you want to resolve the Queen Ambi plotline? Then start with Ages, then go on to Seasons.
...also, screw the Mermaid Suit. Tapping a control pad rapidly is a good way to damage it.
The first time I did this I went Ages to Seasons. Then I went Seasons to Ages with the Hero's Game. I have all of the rings now from the Hero's Game, so now I don't really think it matters which one I do first. But I would probably use the Ring Secret in another Hero's Game to do Ages first the next time. I'll likely go back and forth.
Thanks for the advice I’m a big Zelda fan I am to relive my childhood game I’ve been playing none stop since yesterday drop.
I buy my switch recently and with 3 months of switch online, i already played, a link to the past, link's awakening, mario world 1 (i'm playing 2 right now), after I play the oracles ages & sessons i gonna try zelda 1&2
In emulation (before got the switch) i played, ocarina of time, minish cap, wind waker (my favorite) and other games i don't remember now
Thanks for the info. I played this game in emulator when I was young but never finished any.
If you play the games in real cartridged how you link your gameplay beetwen games?
Do you need 2 gameboys and the link cable?
You can use a link cable to make getting exclusive items easier, but when you beat one game you are given a password to enter into the next one
@@NayruYT Thanks! With this info i'm gonna play the games again after 15 years. I hope to complete them this time haha
@@NayruYTIsnt the link cable only used for ring transfer?
This is the video I needed 🙌 so hype to play these for the first time
I really hope you enjoy them!
Seasons first definitely. Ages is wayyyy more difficult in the puzzle department.
Ages is IMO the most difficult top down Zelda and runner up to only Adventure of Link as most difficult in the series.
Edit: hilarious, i made this comment before watching the video and you just said exactly what i did 😂.
I broke ages on accident on my first playthrough. BEWARE THE DARKNESS GIMMICK
I play ages first, so that the combat focused gameplay of seasons will be a little easier. I also love puzzles, so I like Ages slightly more.
Am currently in the middle of my first playthrough and started with ages. Honestly, i played all the classic zelda games up to majoras mask before and i have to say, puzzlewise oracle of ages is basically the hardest zelda game of them all, and i doubt that there are later zelda games that are harder. Couldn‘t even figure out how to get the first small key in jabu jabus belly without a walkthrough.