WHY YOU SHOULD SKIP HERTA & AGLAEA | 3.0 Pull Analysis and Discussion | Rerun Speculations

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  • @iSUMMONYT
    @iSUMMONYT  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

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    • @Rover-ghw
      @Rover-ghw 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jade, boothill and lingsha are first half rerun

  • @Gengchen82
    @Gengchen82 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    Tighnari was confirmed to be a standard banner character before his banner came out. They cant advertise a character to be limitted and put her later in the standard banner, its against the chinese law.
    If Aglea is limitted in 3.0 she will be limitted forever. If she's a standard banner 5 star they'll tell that in the stream 10 days before 3.0 arrives.

    • @wattiput
      @wattiput 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Gengchen82 this

    • @tokionjouji2782
      @tokionjouji2782 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      i wonder who's the first saying that aglaea is gonna be a standard banner, they must be an enigmata follower.

    • @azeef4926
      @azeef4926 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yes you are right - we need to wait for the 3.0 livestream before they finally confirm that she will in fact be put into the standard banner in 3.3.

    • @JMike-bq6rl
      @JMike-bq6rl 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What about Dehya?

    • @supHew
      @supHew 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      please elaborate the "it's against the chinese law" part, i''m curious

  • @Haven_xx
    @Haven_xx 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    Firfely Discussion sections ends at 6:19 and afterwards he starts discussing The Herta and Aglaea pull value

    • @macraboscratos
      @macraboscratos 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ty 🙏

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I fixed the time stamps idk why they didnt kick in the first time I did it. Thanks!

  • @MK-hi4jy
    @MK-hi4jy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    If the reasoning is 'don't pull herta/aglaea because they will be powercrept' then why pull for later characters? They will also be powercrept later.

    • @sakatagin.
      @sakatagin. 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      this. juat pull whoever you like, if in the middle you can clear all content. IMO.

    • @Takkunda
      @Takkunda 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There's the difference between small power creep vs heavy power creep.
      Eredition units just aren't good in single target damage. and aglaea is a enhanced basic rememberance, not a follow up or a break rememberance.

    • @destinystriumph1573
      @destinystriumph1573 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because every patch has a huge power creep to start off but every new unit is then better by a small amount, so you can just wait one more patch if you can to get a better unit if you're feverish about meta...
      But pull for who you want to pull for imo

    • @Rogal-bt9ei
      @Rogal-bt9ei 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      While every char is going to be powercrept, the idea would be that chars that release at the beginning of a new world and meta are going to be powercrept the fastest, eg Jingliu

    • @MK-hi4jy
      @MK-hi4jy 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Rogal-bt9ei jingliu wasn't released with a new world, they were released in 1.4

  • @martisarda6346
    @martisarda6346 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    I think The Herta will become much better in the future, with the release of a better erudition support. It's like Acheron's case, very strong dps, but with trash supports, that makes you able to release a BIS support once she's not longer the best dps.
    I believe they will do this same thing with all the emanators so they can just bring more and more dedicated supports in order to delay their powercreep.

    • @ZeHoovy2595
      @ZeHoovy2595 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Imho Erudition is just the worst of 3 dps paths

    • @jerryeljeremy7790
      @jerryeljeremy7790 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Tribbie. Thank you and you are welcome.

    • @ahmadashraf3219
      @ahmadashraf3219 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ZeHoovy2595 I remember when Hunt and Erudition were the worst paths, but look at Hunt now! Plus, if Hoyo makes an Erudition character that can link enemy HP like the Erudition Simulated Universe path, then The Herta will be even more OP

    • @martisarda6346
      @martisarda6346 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ZeHoovy2595 Hunt was the worse path by far not long ago, but look at it now

    • @Kaien-qf6cr
      @Kaien-qf6cr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, what you say is for Jade, not The Herta

  • @therion451
    @therion451 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

    Just blindly skipping a dps for the reasons of "powercreep is coming" is a dumb take honestly. What you should do is covering every niche that your account is lacking whether its aoe/single target or covering each element. They can easily introduce aoe enemies to MoC and Apocalyptic Shadow with non fire/wind weak on top to make Firefly and Feixiao struggle. Then they also gonna give us lightning weak enemy but theyre single target which is a weakness for both Acheron and Jing Yuan

    • @kokoro212
      @kokoro212 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Firefly and Feixiao care about enemy's weakness?

    • @withgeez
      @withgeez 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@kokoro212They both do less damage with non fire/wind weak

    • @TheArtistDT
      @TheArtistDT 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      ​@@withgeez but firefly can implant fire weakness

    • @EjderOfMah
      @EjderOfMah 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      With e2 Firefly, you shouldn't worry about powercreep at all. But e0 Firefly is not worth it, tbh

    • @zyrake1708
      @zyrake1708 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      ​@@EjderOfMahlast year people said E2 dhil will never be powercrept. Now rappa E0 clear faster than him

  • @m.ridzwan-26
    @m.ridzwan-26 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Pick who your love to play in this unstoppable powercreeping game. What matters is you have fun when playing the game

  • @Zephyrion22
    @Zephyrion22 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Agree with most of the things except for the Erudition take.
    Erudition always has been solid, but most of the content until 2.6 pretty much shoe-horned the path to PF. However, last 2 patches have shown that they are willing to warp MoC and AS lineups to benefit Erudition, which completely changes the discussion. I think the current way they're doing things, having one strong limited Erudition to cover these scenarios will most likely become needed, so for people that skipped Erudition units until now, The Herta feels like a pretty valuable pull, especially with how stacked her eidolons are compared to most characters (her E1 + E2 are a way, waaaaaay bigger spike than Jingliu's eidolons and arguably better than most DPSes around).

  • @Mikaela_77
    @Mikaela_77 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Was always gonna skip Aglaea anyways, Sunday was a future investment, as for Herta, I don't care if she needs jade or not I'm pulling regardless

    • @supalabs8623
      @supalabs8623 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is what I see people say and then I see the character at the top of a tier list

  • @jerryeljeremy7790
    @jerryeljeremy7790 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Nuh uh, we are getting the AoE meta soon with "enemy rows" mechanic: basically enemies can stand behind other enemies now and AoE is the only one can attack all the enemies behind.
    Better invest now guys

    • @kolebowyer3837
      @kolebowyer3837 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      That will most likely just be a for a single mode. No way they recode the entire game and invalidate half the characters

    • @jerryeljeremy7790
      @jerryeljeremy7790 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @kolebowyer3837 The "dream" community said that although AoE can attack all enemies behind, the row mechanic only has up to 2 rows right now and still Work in progress along with how Single Target & Blast will interact with this mechanic.
      If I were the developer, I would make Hunt can pierce through enemies in single line without having any limit to how many enemies in a line, and Blast just hit one adjacent enemy behind.

    • @salinalunara
      @salinalunara 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kolebowyer3837 what makes you think they didn't already build this in?

    • @jmcMateo
      @jmcMateo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This sounds garbage. Like row enemies 💀 can they think of something else

    • @Tiku-
      @Tiku- 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah so let’s fuck over an entire path now because why not? Amiright? Fuck Hunt in particular

  • @menarg1549
    @menarg1549 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    "we don't have specific information about reruns yet"
    > 3 seconds later

  • @michaelyang838
    @michaelyang838 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    One thing I’ll say about aglaea power creep is this. If she is released to be powercrept super fast, then Acheron FF and everyone is super powercrept and the end game would essentially unplayable. Powercreep happens usually when there is a couple of patches worth of units when people have an opportunity to have a few teams worth of options.

  • @Cadmun
    @Cadmun 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    9:11 he couldn't resist taking a pot shot at us Jingyuan mains. Definitely going on Santa's naughty list, that's for sure.

  • @stuartjohns9918
    @stuartjohns9918 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I'm going to be honest. Herta/Aglaea are already so strong that I really don't see Castorice/Phainon/etc completely powercreeping them to the point of them not being worth pulling, the same way that Firefly/Feixiao did not make Acheron not worth pulling.
    I think the comparison to 1.X units like Seele and Jingliu is a little bit flawed on the basis that the way units and their teams (or lack thereof in 1.X) are put together is just so different compared to now (and 3.X). Hoyo have also been getting a lot of feedback on powercreep and I can see more of a focus on tight archtypes in future versus just an ever increasing power gap for each new unit, as this would invalidate basically everything released before 3.0 almost immediately. I also think unfortunately for Jingliu users, that she just wasn't actually nearly as good as people thought she was at the time. She is honestly a bit of an outlier in that she isn't really a unit that is likely to get improvement in future like JY did, or Blade might do (copium). DHIL with investment still holds up extremely well.
    Herta is definitely a unit that is going to get better over time like Acheron, and she is already a top 5 unit in basically every format right now. I think she is an EXTREMELY high value pull, but waiting for her rerun would also be quite valid imo (and probably what I will do if the double triple rerun in 3.0 leak is correct as I highly want Lingsha E1).
    Aglaea I'm not so sure. She is very strong but maybe a little bit restrictive. Acheron does a little less damage, but is much more versatile and a lot cheaper in terms of cost to run.

    • @Mijoulin
      @Mijoulin 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree that it's unlikely that they will be powercrept before their rerun, just like any other DPS in the game was only powercrept afterwards.
      I disagree on one thing though: it's not valid to wait for a rerun of a DPS character in this game. DPS had a lifetime of maybe 6-9 months on average in this game, so waiting for a rerun on a DPS will cost you around 2/3s of the time the DPS is relevant in endgame modes. Just never pull DPS on reruns.
      Always plan ahead on what team you want to build and what to skip (skipping full teams and never looking back if necessary) and get that DPS on their first banner or not at all.

    • @stuartjohns9918
      @stuartjohns9918 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Mijoulin "it's not valid to wait for a rerun of a DPS character in this game."
      Sorry but I just simply don't agree. Maybe if your only aim is 0-cycling with the absolute top DPS sure, but saying a DPS is never worth pulling on rerun is simpy not true.
      Look at Blade or Jingliu, these DPS were already seeing their lack of value very quickly.
      Jing Yuan is competitive with top options and he was released in the very first patch. Acheron didn't have her best partner until much closer to her rerun than her initial launch.
      With the advent of Fugue, Himeko is an incredibly strong DPS, and she is free and released at the launch of the game.
      Jade is still THE best PF unit, and even with the release of the Herta, her niche isn't going away. THerta might even make her better.
      Not pulling DPS on rerun is definitely the safest option, no doubt, but it is not universally true that pulling DPS on rerun is a bad idea. At the end of the day it is just very hard to see what units will stand the test of time, and power creep in HSR is vastly overstated.

  • @bunnyx2819
    @bunnyx2819 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Guys, It's a Double Triple rerun!
    Herta: Jade, Fexiao and Lingsha
    Aglaea: Robin, Boothill, and Silver wolf!

    • @fqck1999
      @fqck1999 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      UGHHHHHH man they wanna squeeze out our wallet bruhhh, I'm already getting burnt out getting jades for fugue for my firefly/rappa and I'm planning to get Therta for fun but not anymore, I'm getting lingsh now apparently unless they make a new shiny support after this sht hahaha

  • @sphong0610
    @sphong0610 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    11:27 I mean this is a pretty safe bet if you just change the wording a bit. New characters are always a bit better, but COMEPLETELY overshadowed by 3.1-3.2, even with Castorice, is kind of a stretch. Castorice will over shadow Aglaea, IMHO, because I'm holding on to the Aglaea is gonna be a standard banner character in 3.3 prediction, BUT The Herta should be on semi-equal terms with just different play styles. I think The Herta and Castorice will be the Acheron/Firefly of 3.x and Phainon will come out in 3.5-6 and be the Feixiao of 2025.
    Anyway, if Castorice isn't at least 33% stronger than The Herta on release, I'll take an extra eidolon of her. Thanks!

    • @Synchronizebud
      @Synchronizebud 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Mostly agree but one thing I'm concerned was how much/far better the erudition gank or castorice team compared to well invested acheron/FF/Feixiao team. Not to mention if it compared with phainon team or FATE collab team.
      Usually i choose more versatile team/core team rather than team that good in just certain game mode. ✌🏻

    • @sphong0610
      @sphong0610 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Synchronizebud Yeah, same, as a low spender I try to be as efficient as possible. The Herta does seem to be good in all 3 modes because of how her stacking works single target dmg is fine.
      My own expectations are that the Fate collab won't be too OP, especially since we don't expect reruns, and Phainon will be a Feixiao to The Herta's Acheron, better but not so much as he makes her useless by any means. If an E2S1 Therta is good enough for a whole year, I'm happy with it.

    • @kushj9568
      @kushj9568 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bruh, he said stronger, not 33% stronger

    • @serikazero128
      @serikazero128 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Feixiao of 2025 will most likely be one of the fate colab characters. As i think its gonna happen in q3 of 2025

  • @RAJA_XYLO
    @RAJA_XYLO 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I doubt they are gonna add Aglaea to standard tbh. I mean she is too fricking strong to get added to standard banner. She is doing more or same dmg as Acheron

  • @youness4247
    @youness4247 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    there's absolutely no shot Aglaea's getting added to standard banner, ain't happening

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hopefully

  • @adamcobb7892
    @adamcobb7892 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Stoked to see her with Jade. Been waiting for Jade to shine.

  • @Kyphi404
    @Kyphi404 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The Herta is actually one of my fav chars so she's unskippable for me lol, honestly, can't keep up with meta anyways and since it's single player, I decided to just go for Waifu Impact lol

  • @onimusha950
    @onimusha950 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Forget the herta and aglea im going for that robin rerun

  • @Zoeila
    @Zoeila 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Something to keep in mind is that from what I've seen of the beta there's lots of ice and lightning weak enemies.

  • @Kaien-qf6cr
    @Kaien-qf6cr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As a linghtning-less and quantum-less player i will pull aglaea and then castorice, i am happy my coverage element will complete 😁
    I hear some gossip robin and lingsha will rerun in the next patch

  • @TheGreatSoraki
    @TheGreatSoraki 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Did You post wrong title for Your film?

  • @ChaosVincentVII
    @ChaosVincentVII 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I was thinking about pulling for THE Herta beacuse PF is the only game mode where sometimes I struggled a bit, but after the rework of PF I feel like it is easier then before, so now I am not sure anymore... And, honestly, all the 3.1+ units looks really insane.

    • @andysabur4966
      @andysabur4966 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The next pf after this comes during the last 2-3 days of The Herta's banner. Wait for that to see if the pf is any harder, cuz I have a feeling that this pf is easy as an opener and it's gonna get worse

    • @ChaosVincentVII
      @ChaosVincentVII 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@andysabur4966 yeah, I was thinking to do as you said

  • @VAYu1u
    @VAYu1u 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Aglaea is too strong to be put on standard banner

  • @Haruko_Haruhara_
    @Haruko_Haruhara_ 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    @iSUMMONYT loving the festive background! 😊 I had a Flexispot motorized standing desk too and it’s a great brand! Glad you got a new chair too! Looking forward to see what the new path can do!

  • @Xavier-ux3sq
    @Xavier-ux3sq 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Everything is gonna be powecrept at this point. No matter who you save for or skip, there will always be something that preforms better. Get what you want.

  • @Elainyan
    @Elainyan 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    pulling herta personally anything else after that is bonus

  • @user-1zUm1
    @user-1zUm1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I'm skipping aglaea Going for castorice!! After i get The Herta!!!!!

    • @blueblazedemon
      @blueblazedemon 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You have no idea if she's coming after aglaea though

    • @user-1zUm1
      @user-1zUm1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @blueblazedemon I'm guessing she's coming in 3.3?

    • @blueblazedemon
      @blueblazedemon 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @user-1zUm1 I don't know ☠️have to wait till the next drip marketing

    • @ashimsy
      @ashimsy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Castorice might be one of the last amphoreus characters

    • @dannysoto9294
      @dannysoto9294 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-1zUm13.2

  • @sergioleal613
    @sergioleal613 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s wild to assume she’ll he standard banner based on tahnari. He was announced as such, and even in today’s meta he stands up strong, just like Himeko.
    What if they added Nuev to standard banner, does he suddenly stop being the best?

  • @Mijoulin
    @Mijoulin 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Powercreep: Mihoyo had a weird way to raise the damage ceiling in the past. They did raise the damage for DPS not step by step with every character, they did it in rare "jumps". You can check this by checking the damage calculations on prydwen. They raised the damage ceiling after half a year with DHIL and Jingliu (double Seele damage when taking out the impact of supports) and then after a year with Acheron/Firefly (4 times Seele damage when taking out impact of supports) and all other DPS were on a very similar level. We haven't seen a damage ceiling rise since then really.
    It is very likely that mihoyo will do just that: raise the damage ceiling to 8x Seele level/ double Acheron level and then keep it at this level for a while and just pull the different archetypes to that level with new characters and i would consider it unlikely that they instantly powercreep characters they want to sell on their rerun. So those characters will be good for at least 6-9 months.
    But yes, DPS characters don't have a long lifespan in this game and it's good to keep that in mind and only pull the DPS characters you really want to build their team for on their first appearance (never on a rerun).

  • @electrickzy
    @electrickzy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The people who think Aglaea is gonna be a standard banner unit must have Genshin ptsd lol

  • @mohameddjerdjera4933
    @mohameddjerdjera4933 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    now that we have informations about the 3.0 reruns (jade,boothil and lingsha first half and robin second half) what do you think?
    is it worth skipping fugue for robin ( I only have firfly as a break dps)

    • @Naoya-zp5rh
      @Naoya-zp5rh 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      if you're running break teams and have really good break dps like boothill/rappa/firefly.. go for fugue but if you want to play safe and is a "future proof" character then go for robin.. and she can work well with many teams unlike fugue

    • @pinkinglily6447
      @pinkinglily6447 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Absolutely. Firefly doesnt need fugue and you can always use harmony TB. And if you have robin then you dont need to use remembrance TB

  • @kokoro212
    @kokoro212 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    HSR has become a 5min daily game for me, skipping the banner will be easy.
    Even if Castorice is not much better than The Herta, I'll have more jades for the future banner. It's a win-win situation for sure.

  • @Haven_xx
    @Haven_xx 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    If Aglaea gets slapped onto the standard banner eventually, I really would not be sad if I would get her when I lose my 50/50. Just like with Tighnari in Genshin, their constellations/eidolons are way better than other standard banner characters.
    So even if I would get Aglaea in 3.0, I would be very happy if they put her on the standard banner afterwards

  • @Hyli0s-xAE
    @Hyli0s-xAE 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The way I play is: wait until X.2 - X.3 patches of a new game year. See which DPS I MUST have. Get eidolons / weapons for my favorite DPS on release and use F2P supports. If I missed premium supports get them on rerun. I usually wait for a team to be “packaged” as complete and then go all in on one or two premium teams per game year. A mix of horizontal and vertical investment around the most badass DPS characters. You can get 2 premium teams per year as a light spender. That’s usually enough to keep up with meta.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very true

  • @KarebNobekes
    @KarebNobekes 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree with aglea, maybe she's just a introductory character to a memo meta. I think power wise, she will be like blade, jing liu before DHIL release or like everyone on 2.xx patches pre-acheron release. But with 3.0 Herta i hope she will last more, because.. idk.... she's an emanator. Knowing acheron is 'still' very playable until now i hope hoyo will stick to the lore.
    And also, HSR like to introduce the new archetype meta by corporating it into some event, just like a few patches ago when we can choose all the prebuild character with a hint of their recommendation according stage enemies debuff and team buff. Knowing this, i'm seeing 2 contender for a new future meta; true damage and memosprite. And if HSR 3.xx patches will bring the same trend like previous 2 major patches, imho I can't see aglea will carry on one of those final 3.xx meta...except a few beginning 3.xx patches.

  • @suwoh.c1977
    @suwoh.c1977 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Personally what I leanred from my past mistakes is to pull for characters that are part of archetypes so they have very high chance of being buffed by future units. Generalist supports and dpses tend to get powercrept easly because hoyo cannot make generalist supports or dpses too good or they will powercreep everything else ( yes Robin was a mistake ).

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thats a good pull strategy tbh

  • @RenCarl1sle
    @RenCarl1sle 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    IIRC, Hoyo will need to say during the livestream if they plan on putting Aglaea on the standard banner because of Chinese Law. Kind of like how they can't directly nerf characters after release.

  • @ucbrowser2447
    @ucbrowser2447 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For Bertha, although she's a DPS, she's Ice based and has relevance across all 3 modes potentially.
    The only other Ice we know is supposedly not a main DPS. With Ice coming back i need an updated Ice DPS

  • @crisguerra176
    @crisguerra176 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you brother merry Christmas

  • @user-uknown-456-d6w
    @user-uknown-456-d6w 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hoyo focuses more on emmanator s since herta is an emmanator she will be powercrept later than other character, but we need to see how good mydei is since he is coming out in 3.1 and is an imaginary destruction character 💀

  • @crowing3886
    @crowing3886 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    With the way these leaks look like it's just robin forever 😂

  • @nanashina-g7u
    @nanashina-g7u 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Aglaea: femme fatale, very himeko-esque, interesting design, interesting character (the puppet is *chef's kiss*);
    Castorice: generic waifu number #34543, kinda reminds me of Firefly;
    Yeah, I'm not worried about Castorice powercreeping her. She will most definitely be serviceable and at least clear in

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The "0 cycle or its trash" mentality ruins the fun for a lot pf people. I am going to make a video about this sometime next month.
      More people need to start looking at these units the way you do

  • @VerbosePX
    @VerbosePX 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As one of the unlucky ones without RuanMei, i will have to skip Fugue (and Break) unless that mad scientist has a rerun in 3.0. Shame because i really fell for Fugue 3D model in the story part, i think only Himeko has given me this impression before.
    Madame Herta is then tempting because, like the duo RuanMei+Fugue, it seems she can be the core of a powerful & versatile team, even paired with simply free 4* like Serval or Puppet Herta (or Himeko !)
    For Aglaea, i have doubts : i want to see how far from her is Acheron before deciding. If Acheron is still good, then i'll be happy Sunday came in only 40 pulls... (would he be my second Sparkle ? :(

  • @arcanacoltic971
    @arcanacoltic971 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Not me using Arlan to clear moc 12 since forever for the lolz even after I got my Acheron going. In fact, whenever I get gear upgrades for Arlan Acheron gets his old gear...although his old gear is absurd so take it with a grain of Salt.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Im going to build Arlan, at this point it sounds fun lol

    • @arcanacoltic971
      @arcanacoltic971 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iSUMMONYT it's a fun little challenge for when you get bored. Would love to see a vid on it.

    • @j.w.7608
      @j.w.7608 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Id lobe to see your arlan build reliecs and all i love him character so much but have trouble managing him in longer fights (i have him at E6)

    • @arcanacoltic971
      @arcanacoltic971 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@j.w.7608 I'm sitting on a 2pc 2pc set right now sitting on a 80/170 crit ratio because I use him with hyper speed Sunday, Aventurine and Jiaoqiu. All e1 so a bit unrelated but all of them are S0 so I think it balances out. Sunday is on Bronya s1, and Jiao is on Pearls.
      Still working on 4pc Scholar for Arlan so It's gonna keep getting better. And he's still on s5 eon.
      Waiting for a destruction lc with crit stats that benefits low hp because I dislike how low the attack is on blade lc, the buff also stops being useful when you hover at 1hp because it dosent trigger.
      Never beleaved in blades signature, it's like a really expensive crutch for crit rate that gives you nothing after you hit 1 hp because Arlan dosent care about hp at all. Might aswell just farm better crit ratio over pulling that and use Eon.

  • @joshjohnson8584
    @joshjohnson8584 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Herta is just too tempting man. Big E Energy that gets it in based on every E path in the future.

  • @jmcMateo
    @jmcMateo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I want fugue and save till I see something good. I got Sunday in 6 single pulls so there's that. I kinda wanna save my pulls after the good luck haha

  • @Jackie_Tikki_Tavi
    @Jackie_Tikki_Tavi 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ayo, the reddit leaks today show a triple banner per half, so 6 total, with our boy Boothill in the second half.
    It's a world ending lineup..

  • @Mikaela_77
    @Mikaela_77 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I completely agree with your judgement of aglaea and future meta and i hadnt even consodered her getting put on standard which does make sense. I feel like her positiom is even much worse than herta because shes lightning meanwhile, the best ice we have rn is jingliu and herta is Acheron level.

  • @calypso7908
    @calypso7908 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    idc that The Herta might be powercrept later. ive been waiting since 1.1 (when i started playing) for herta’s inevitable five star alt
    same for fugue tbh. even if i wasnt god’s most silliest break player id still get her because thats my girl tingyun!!
    if any of the characters you speculate rerunning actually do, im pretty confident skipping. fugue e0 ff e1 and the herta e0 will be mine

  • @XcheSheti
    @XcheSheti 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    gonna skip them all untill I have enough to pull e2s1 dps just like acheron

  • @Mijoulin
    @Mijoulin 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Aglaea is unlikely to be standard banner character because:
    - Tighnari was announced to be a standard banner character before the banners release. Like you said, people would be too angry if that wasn't announced beforehand.
    - the eidolons are too good. Look at the other standard banner eidolons. You can see a standard 5 star from a mile away because of those.
    - she's too high investment. Standard banner characters are usually low investment characters, because they are there to help new players see a big step up from 4 stars. Aglaea needs the rarest substat speed plus the second rarest substats with crit damage and crit rate to shine. She additionally needs Sunday and lightcones that are expected to be gacha and needs more investment in her traces for her memosprite. So I think she's specifically designed to drain older players that have a lot of resources to burn (resin, her e1 is so good that f2p will try to reach that) and will be tempted to get a battlepass just for the lc.
    I haven't run the numbers yet, but I expect her to have a higher damage ceiling than other DPS for quite a while on very high investment, but also a high floor, making her f2p unfriendly. I would expect her to live a little longer on high investment than the average DPS, taking a similar spot as Acheron.

  • @smirzain5802
    @smirzain5802 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Honestly, I agree the Meta part is coming on 3.1 and forward yet The Herta part I disagree 😅. I’m pulling her, love her since the beginning !! Genius Society 83 😂😂 add to the Emanator part . Truly, I always liked Erudition path finally we have someone that will left them up. After The Herta my jades go for Tribbie , Castorice and Phanion. Well done video as usual Thank you 😊

  • @malificajones7674
    @malificajones7674 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yeah, as a whale, I'm skipping all 4 of the upcoming characters.
    My existing teams are still able to effortless crush everything in endgame content, so there's simply no reason to upgrade them yet.
    I'll wait until the next round of serious powercreep before I start heavy pulling again.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you have whale Acheron team youre set for the next year tbh

    • @malificajones7674
      @malificajones7674 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iSUMMONYTYeah, Acheron is incredibly powerful.
      I use her with Lingsha, Sparkle, and Jiaoqiu, and Acheron obliterates everything.

  • @Eldendood
    @Eldendood 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    finally a channel on the new banner without AI voice.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Welcome 💪

  • @davidlyons6235
    @davidlyons6235 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you're a new player you should have pulls out the wazoo. Go for whoever you want...for now. You'll need more prudence down the road.

  • @savotodorovic2181
    @savotodorovic2181 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was really looking forward to pulling for Aglaea because her playstyle looks really fun and strong, but what you're saying makes a lot of sense. I'm a low spender, so I have to be conscious of who I try to pull for, and I think you just talked me out of going for her

  • @tezcat186
    @tezcat186 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good video. Merry Christmas! ❤

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you Merry Christmas!

  • @TheGwilwileth
    @TheGwilwileth 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Got my E2 with LC Sunday…now just saving for a while. So I am ready when my next must pull Character arrives. 😅

  • @fazair5514
    @fazair5514 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    meta slave here,i guess ill have to check 3.1 beta first before pulling 3.0 banner

  • @JamesAnderson-wi6rh
    @JamesAnderson-wi6rh 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It looks like herta will be getting a great deal of future support (tribb, screw). Shes also MUCH better than aga at almost every investment level. I think herta is pretty safe

  • @drakehound2244
    @drakehound2244 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What you underestimate about the Herta, is that her erudition bonus are small, even without additional Erudition Unit, she is still META dps. but unlike other Meta Dps who needs a team around them, The Herta is a meta dps who function alone into any team, her real pull value is that even if powercrept you have a Sub Dps that can fit into any team for F2P/New Players.
    But you are right DPSER will be powercreept faster then Support or Utility characters. while Acheron team members has to be Nihility. or Acheron has to be E2. The Herta doesn't suffer from that flaw.
    About Fugue if you ever plan to pull Lingsha or have Linghsa. she is the Lingsha support. with Fugue you make Lingsha 100% Dpser cause of Foxian Prayer. that is one of the combo pieces made for F2P, so you have a hard time, only Lingsha and Fugue already is able to make you cycle the MOC AP PF even if the other two team members are average.

  • @mrgg1475
    @mrgg1475 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Where our wish man 🎄 please win 50/50

  • @FulguriteBeam
    @FulguriteBeam 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ngl y'all shouldn't worry that much about The Herta's future, she's an Emanator, she isn't gonna fall off that fast.
    Idk if you can say the same thing about Aglaea tho because of the eminent release of Castorice

  • @j.w.7608
    @j.w.7608 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Without a 5 star super breaker, who would be a 4 star replacement? If you dont have the 5stars should u focus on a different style of play instead?

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The best one probably Xueyi. But super break does well if you have high toughness dealing attacks like Xueyi or Misha and Hunt March 7th too

  • @kaileena7
    @kaileena7 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am skipping Algae but not Herta. Frankly, if I wanted to invest more money into the game, I'd gladly have all characters but I just don't feel like doing it so hard choices must be made.
    My advice - if you really like a character, pull them no matter where they stand in the meta. But for Algae, if you feel somewhat whatever about her then skip her, especially if you have Acheron or Jing Yuan for now. While she seems to be stronger than both of them at E0S0 (not stronger than E2S1 Acheron from what I've seen), there are even stronger characters like Castorice on the horizon, so it's worth keeping your jades for someone you like more.
    No way I am skipping for Herta though - the genius society have been some of my favs since the start and it looks like she's a unit that will only get better with time/be a core to Erudition comps.

    • @Kaori--
      @Kaori-- 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just get the subscription pass and you'll be fine, pal

  • @muhammedsultanmustapha6571
    @muhammedsultanmustapha6571 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly, I agree eith everything you said aside from the Herta. The one thin the Herta has over every unit is that even if dhe gets powercrept, she will still be good for pure fiction. Its a very similar situation to acheron. Even though she is aging she can stll be relegated to a pure fiction DPS. Worst case scenario.
    Also we are yet to have a major dificulty spike for pure fiction and i feel it will be coming soon. PF may not be as easy to clear in the future.
    In addithoon to all this, we havent gotten an ice damage dealer in 2.x. We shouldn't forget about elemental coverage. Personally i struggle with adventurine because i don't have a physical or ice DPS.

  • @bluedrop00
    @bluedrop00 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Everyone hypes Castorice, but her playstyle seems to focus on being a long-chant caster. This might not work well in certain modes, like PF or something else. Because basically, Star rail is a fast-paced turn-based RPG.

  • @callmemrdee
    @callmemrdee 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro has a sleeper build, OMG! Hitting GYM I see! Respect!✊

  • @Gengchen82
    @Gengchen82 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice christmas tree bro, I hope you have a great time

  • @theoDSP
    @theoDSP 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro, Aglaea has insane speed. I don;t think she is going to be a powercrept any time soon.

  • @Twigggggy
    @Twigggggy 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i was planning to skip fugue but now i have her e2 and i honestly dont know how it happened.

  • @Marz776
    @Marz776 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can't wait to use 2 lightning characters until the fate collab!

  • @hellonyancat666
    @hellonyancat666 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Based on your video, no DPS is recommendable right?
    If Aglaea were to be standard, they would tell us in the livestream

  • @blssruju9994
    @blssruju9994 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    E2 fire fly or fugue??? (I have e1 ruan mei and no bottyhill and rappa)

    • @jaceee4154
      @jaceee4154 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      If no boothill or rappa then e2 ff
      Fugue doesnt do much for e0 ff

    • @islamsalimzhanov4399
      @islamsalimzhanov4399 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah ff eidolons give her a lot more than any upgrade character compare her "f2p" HTB ruan and galaher team.

    • @netneo4038
      @netneo4038 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      if you ever want to use remembrance MC you need fugue if you also want to use firefly. Because firefly needs harmony MC to function properly (2/3rds of her dps comes from harmony MC superbreak)
      If you get fugue you can use fugue instead to provide superbreak (yes its a weaker superbreak but fugue provides other debuffs so its makes up for it) and that means harmony MC can now turn into Rememberance MC and used in another team.
      People seem to forget this a lot.

  • @thiagosantoro4467
    @thiagosantoro4467 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As of rn the herta is Just beyond broken. If you're worrying about her being powercrept, your entire account Will. You have to keep pulling for dps, Thats How the game Works.

  • @kennethyoung7457
    @kennethyoung7457 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you don't like the dps don't pull them vast majority of new characters are dps just pull support for old dps until a new one you like comes along. Herta and Aglaea are really strong for sure but we have already seen how the old dps handle 3.0 content and they handle it well if not effortlessly if you already got the new supports which you would need anyway if you wanted to pull new dps and have them perform up to snuff. I have actually started using my E0S0 Jingliu again with all the ice weakness now.

  • @pavel5129
    @pavel5129 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nah, even without this video, I already skipped them.

  • @howorwhat3088
    @howorwhat3088 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have 140 pulls i want Fugue and Herta i try Fugue if i win rest of my pull go for Herta if i lose i get guaranteed Herta😅 than if my calculations is correct i can guarantee 1 character form 3.1 and 3.2

  • @drakehound2244
    @drakehound2244 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well if leaks are true, And Lingsha reruns with Herta then it is going to be a tough choice, Lingsha is a FIX combo with Fugue. Fugue Foxian Prayer makes Lingsha a Full Dpser (so colorless toughness dpser). that ups the value of Fugue.
    Robin Rerun I already predicted it, cause Algaea was either Houhou rerun (for her ridiculous energy) or Robin rerun. (cause Mihoyo said Algaea needs Robin or Sunday).

  • @GabeIG
    @GabeIG 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    damn we got full leaks of all the reruns like an hour after you uploaded rip lol

  • @shwetasharma6690
    @shwetasharma6690 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    before watching this video lemme try to guess the best strat for meta proofing your account i have 3 ways ~
    Pull The Herta if you have a jade then go for robin
    Pull aglaea if youhave sunday then go for robin.
    The MOST metaproof way (imo) - skip both get tribbie get castorice

  • @OsvaldvVanStein
    @OsvaldvVanStein 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Skipping to save for Mydei, Castorice and the ice nihility dude.

    • @Yin184
      @Yin184 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Anaxa

  • @FrostOblivion
    @FrostOblivion 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What are these comments saying The Herta doesn't have a team? Her team is clearly built around Jade, Aventurine, and Robin (or any other action advance support if you don't have her).
    Her entire kit is around getting many hits fast and with the way she will stack with Jade its very obvious that's her team. Pair that with Robin and you have the extra damage instance mixed with a strong action advance. Not to mention any sustain with a lot of actions will also be good hence Aventurine with his follow ups.
    If you skipped Jade I wouldn't recommend The Herta but with that team it's a no brainer for me. But I've also been waiting for a crazy Jade team that's good outside of Pure Fiction.

    • @blahblahblah3716
      @blahblahblah3716 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      U would know that Herta really doesn't have her bis teammates right now if u follow the leaks. Tribbie coming in 3.1 is said to bis for Erudition characters. And saying Jade is the bis for Herta is same as coming 1st place in a race with 0 opposition because Jade is the only supportive Erudition right now in the game and they will add more(Screwllum copium). The Herta will age just fine.

    • @FrostOblivion
      @FrostOblivion 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @blahblahblah3716 I said a team not bis team. Her current patch version is still going to be very good. And of course, Jade is needed when there are no other options. That's like running Firefly without HMC or Fugue. You just don't do that if you can avoid it.

    • @user-ry2lf4ri7p
      @user-ry2lf4ri7p 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have you seen her f2p team still doing insane amount of damage?

  • @FlutterSwag
    @FlutterSwag 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i got 10k left after fugue, im skipping 2.0 cause i need to save for castorice and phainon and anyone they need

  • @quaremoritor
    @quaremoritor 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    im gonna pull aglaea bc i cant wait to properly use my e6 sunday no way im waiting almost half a year for castorice, although i'll get her as well when she comes out

    • @quaremoritor
      @quaremoritor 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i think some people look at the game and its meta way too harshly. even though jingliu got powercrept she still was peak at some point, and at some point she 0-cycled and cleared everything, ofc i'd rather prefer that she would still be at least be somewhat useful years later, but in any case you pulled her and got some entertainment value out of her if you like her as a character or you like clearing fast. now her value ran out and you gotta pull for someone else, this is just how hsr in particular works. it'd be another story if they released a character and they're dogshit from start to finish that would be a total waste, but a character having worked hard to clear for you and then going on vacation once the meta shifts out of favour for them is not a waste. i've even seen people who haven't pulled since 2.2 bc they're waiting for 100% powercreep resistant character and i can't imagine how that would be fun. i'm saying all this as someone who has many characters and 0 limited eidolons btw (sunday is a big exception). yes you gotta be smart with your pulls, save just in case you lose 50/50, know what teams your characters are best at, but it doesn't mean sitting on your jades bc you're too afraid of powercreep. jades by themselves don't give you fun, pulling characters and playing them does, no matter if you enjoy them for their appearance and personality or gameplay

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Im inclined to agree, tbf I 3 cycled with Jingliu the Swam Stage which is really good imo

  • @JackOFhearts12
    @JackOFhearts12 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm picking up fugue for my Rappa and boothill team.

  • @yttikitty
    @yttikitty 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I pulled for fugue, I also have himeko to pair her with. I have plenty of quests that offer jades, should I pull for firefly or is she not worth for my account.

  • @nawawii3750
    @nawawii3750 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Everything you said about Herta is very debatable, if not outright wrong

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How so?

  • @marlondaugustin4681
    @marlondaugustin4681 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Between having an e2 firefly or fugue who should I get for my hard pity. I already have ruan Mei, hmm e6 and e1 firefly.

  • @Dunkerque351
    @Dunkerque351 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Acherons greatest advantage on an account level is that she doesn’t compete as much for harmonies. I see Herta as someone similar so it’s a bit redundant and I don’t have the strongest units available for her team.
    Herta and Acheron both play the role of being the 2nd team DPS who doesn’t compete as much with the 1st team for the top tier harmony supports. I already have E2S1 Acheron who runs with Sparkle/Jiaoqiu/Gallagher or Sparkle/Jiaoqiu/Bronya and it leaves the trifecta of Sunday/Huohuo/Robin open for the 1st team DPS. That DPS is currently on a rotation of my Himeko/Seele/Jingliu depending on the content but it could be Aglaea, could be Castorice, could be a certain shadow silhouette we saw in the Amorpheus trailer.

    • @JamesAnderson-wi6rh
      @JamesAnderson-wi6rh 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Herta does actually like having a robin or Sunday on the team tho

    • @Dunkerque351
      @Dunkerque351 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@JamesAnderson-wi6rh Great, but she wants to be paired with another erudition character which means unless you run sustainless, it will be hard to fit two harmony supports into the team, hence she's a DPS who frees up highly contested harmonies so that the other team can use a double harmony setup.
      I already fulfill this with Acheron+Nihility Support, some might fulfill it with break teams with RM and HMC who aren't the best option for a traditional double harmony hypercarry setup. Some fulfill it with a FUA team where the only harmony being used is Robin.
      If you don't run a traditional (2x harmony) hypercarry team on one side then I guess you wouldn't have the problem of opportunity cost of not pairing the two strongest harmonies with your strongest traditional hypercarry on one team.

    • @Dunkerque351
      @Dunkerque351 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@JamesAnderson-wi6rh Great but she still wants to be run with an Erudition character so unless you are sustainless, she can free up at least 1 highly contested harmony supports for the other team. If you don't run a traditional double harmony hypercarry setup on the other team then I guess there is no opportunity cost of pairing the two strongest supports with your traditional hypercarry. Teams are strong in HSR, not the individual characters.
      I committed to Acheron's debuff/nihility gimmick and didn't bother with the break or FUA gimmicks while I ran a traditional hypercarry double harmony setup on the other team. The Sunday/HH/Robin (SHR) core is great for a traditional hypercarry, but it was the idea that they will be good for the summon meta that has me on board with joining the summons meta. DoT's lack of support from Hoyo had me skeptical of committing to any new gimmick and SHR just happens to be good for summons AND traditional hypercarries so its a lower cost investment to pull for one summons DPS for my account compared to pulling for a break support (RM or Fugue) and a break DPS and potentially Lingsha.

  • @niigolover
    @niigolover 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm planning to pull E2 ff (i already have E1S1) and E0S1 the herta🤞🏻🤞🏻

  • @cionaed9912
    @cionaed9912 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What if I tell you that Robin will have a rerun 3.0 😂😂

  • @TenchiHawkwing
    @TenchiHawkwing 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Aglaea on standard banner is such a weird thing to speculate on, especially when you consider what you said about Tighnari in Genshin. In BOTH cases here they added someone to standard (Tighnari and Dehya) they told us they were were going to add them to standard before the banner dropped so if they're going to do it we don't need to wonder about it. They will tell us.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I understand but since we dont know now, we speculate.

  • @Rave45-g4v
    @Rave45-g4v 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    powercrept in hsr is so bad, so im skip sunday because im very sure they will release better harmony who can buff all summon party haha

  • @Aemothkas
    @Aemothkas 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think erudition is gonna become meta in 3.0-3.1 then Castorice is gonna creep Aglaea in 3.2

  • @DarkHowlerz
    @DarkHowlerz 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't have electro

  • @zeodark2761
    @zeodark2761 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just feel like saving for an E2 remembrance down the line will be a good play.
    Aglaea seems nice but she’s not going to be the Acheron of remembrance.