Corellon Larethian - The Strongest God in Dungeons and Dragons
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**Note: For the purposes of this video, I chose to focus on lore from 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th edition. There is some lore in 5th edition (Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes) that I did not include.
1st Edition Deities & Demigods
1st Edition Monster Mythology
2nd Edition Demihuman Deities
2nd Edition Hallowed Grounds
2nd Edition Planes of Chaos
3rd Edition Deities and Demigods
Elves of Evermeet
3rd Edition Faiths and Pantheons
3rd Edition Complete Divine
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Here's the link to the Feywarden Cleric Subclass: drive.google.com/file/d/1JqJ0K-kFMMLVzm94bUwotkHA3FLjp_B2/view?usp=sharing
Question, is it possible that Ao does have a portfolio? I ask because after your video on Ao I came up with a theory. The deities existence probably are what gives Ao his power and his portfolio is "deity and balance." Basically Ao exists because of the same reason they exist and that's because they all have contemplated their own existance and what it means to be a god, and thus accidentally created Ao without realizing it.
please do more lycanthropes.
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Yeah, keep doing this kind of things.
The spell description for Augment Artistry in the PDF and video are very different. Is it +1 to +3 like the video or a flat +5 like the pdf?
Is it bad that at 8:22 the second I heard "it is considered heresy by both" my immediate reaction was, "oh so it's the true story.
No but very funny
We are heretics together then.
Ya know... I am going with that as the true lore now.
I had the same thought myself, tbh.
Well... Only two of them know how true it is...
Any god according to rhexx: Yes, I am the strongest god.
It's good for business.
Sharess dancing over in the corner like "who cares, I've got a cat".
A very godlike attitude
Indeed I saw The Strongest God in DnD and came here expecting Moradin.
@@desertdreamer8224 that's just Dwarven propaganda.
Corellon Larethian is one of my favorite gods in D&D. His story is full of lore and mystery. His legend reminds me a lot of the Greek pantheon. Family, betrayal, the patron of all elves, etc.
As a DM with a LOT of elves in the party, its good to know how this guy works. Nice work Rhexx
...yet this only applies to Forgotten Realms too.
My primary criticism with the FR Elven Pantheon is that they're ALL chaotic deities. Religion is fundamentally lawful in that it's seeking to organize, teach, and structure people's lives. There's a reason that they're called "Religious Orders", so while chaotic does lend itself well to elves, the fey, etc., the Sun Elven pursuit of "Kingdom building" is in actuality, a lawful pursuit. So, the real question then is: Just how much of this chaotic lifestyle do they choose to partake in?
@@tyree9055 I agree with you to a certain degree.
Then again, teaching people fundamental morality through religion is not a definitive structure in my eyes. Teaching a young Elf the concept of freedom and good (do whatever you want, as long as you don't harm anyone that does not want to harm you, for example) is in my opinion not lawful organizing per se. Also, humans, and by extension Elves, have banded together for safety and survival reasons. Terefore a certain structure must be formed for anarchy not to run rampand and prevent the destruction of a society.
Even animals do have a basic form of structure in their society, yet I would not dare to call them lawful. Therefor, I do understand your idea (I think at least I do understand) and my response would be: As long as the fundamental rules and morality of living together in social structures are not broken, people parake in chaotic nature by the virtue of them doing what they want to do. If that makes any sense.
@@300SonsofOdin My advice for handling the elven religion would be this:
While the elves are all (largely) religious, they do not form churches, but rather Temples only. A place to worship their deities, make offerings, etc. There'd be small shrines found within (or near to) their homes as well. This allows for the individual (i.e. chaotic?) worship of their deities, and keeps a level of separation between church and state.
Whereas, a lawful church would hold organized masses, take / collect offerings, hold sermons (daily or weekly?), and create militant religious orders (akin to the Templers, Hospitallers, and Teutonic Knights).
Furthermore, teaching morality is, in essence, a lawful behaviour, because those who're teaching it are trying to structure and organize their society (I'd argue that the teacher is more lawful than the student though, too) along the good / evil axis.
Being lawful is being orderly, and believing in a certain structure of thought (generally how most people view their lives and existence) is indeed a form of order. Knowing right from wrong is a form of order. How extreme a level of order is another thing. Even the elven pantheon is an order. Corellon is at the top (Ao really is 😅), then Sehanine, Rillifane, etc. At the bottom of this hierarchy is Alobal, Darahl, Alathrien, etc. Then of course, Lolth and her crew of misfits are in opposition (though I wouldn't call them a cooperative hierarchy in any way). They're still a hierarchy (i.e. an "order"), but their relationship is totally hostile with one another as much as it is with the Seldarine.
Anyways, I hope that I've helped you out somewhat (and not confused you)!
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@@tyree9055 No worries, mate. You are, indeed, helping me a lot here. But it seems that I have understood your question wrong then (or I reading something into it the wrong way).
I agree with you in 90% of what you said. Yet you did not mention the masses/sermons in your original question. So I thought that this was a given, that the Elves do not partake in such things (other than very special occasions).
Then I again disagree with you that teaching morality is a form of lawfulness in itself. I again have to bring up the animals with a natural order as an exaple. If you say that every form of structure as it stands is a form of order (natural or otherwise made by society) and therefore is lawful, would that not imply the absence of chaos as a concpet on its own?
Chaos as such, I think, can only work if there is no society tied to it. So for chaos to be active, it would have to be broken down on the level of an individual (aka every single person on its own).
Then again, maybe I am reading something into this question that does not exist. Or maybe I am understanding it wrong.
But non the less, it has been a pleasure to talk to you :) You have an interesting vew in this matter and I think we agree in most aspects, except some minor details here and there.
@@300SonsofOdin Yeah, I am not considering animals too much in this, but they do enforce their own "pecking order" too (at least some of them), so they have their own way of creating structure. Family units have a natural hierarchy.
So, when an organization is described as lawful or chaotic, it doesn't necessarily mean that chaotic (or lawful) characters aren't in the organization. They're just rebels or deviants...
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As for chaos, it is possible to have orderly disorder (think of a food processor, black hole, galaxy, etc.). Everything's flying around in a disorderly fashion, but once you look at it from afar, you find that there is in fact, order within the chaos.
But that debate is for philosophers... 😅
Seeing that Corellon sends his priests recovering lost masterpieces of elven history I wonder if he may send one into their original homeland: before coming to Faerun, back in the days of Thunder, the elves originated in another crystal sphere which they fled after a catastrophe. Maybe Corellon would send someone there to get something of cultural significance back?
The elves came from arvandor not a different sphere?
yes and no: the truth is that d&d has had so much lore over the years that no writer should(or could)read all of it, so you get contrdictions. A LOT. like, im serius, it happens so, so much. my personel way to deal with it is to just take what i like from the lore and make all the rest incorrect myth.
sounds like a fun campaign or just quest
@@rishitchithirala2977 in the most recent lore. But I remember distinctly an older book where elves used high magic to flee a kingdom facing an unspecified catastrophe in another sphere to Toril, just to chance upon a red dragon. The scene was actually a bit funny, upon exiting the planar portal they found a vitrified rock formation only for one of the elves to deduce it came from a red dragon breath minutes before said dragon exited its lair in the nearby mountain.
Sound's like a level 20 champaign to me.👍👍
Keep up the great content. I remember being younger watching your Skyrim videos and I love the direction you took your channel
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As someone who "always" plays an Elf (dragonborn might happen from time to time) I am so happy for this video :D
💯, same here!
Why only elf?
@@user-lv5rj6ur5o started to like them early thanks to lord of the rings, and their culture just speaks to me, I guess. Free skill, trance, fey ancestry, darkvision, and teleportation (elastin/shadar-kai) doesn't hurt either :)
I feel like Gruumsh really got the shortest end of the stick out of all this, like man, if i were him i would have asked for an universal reboot
#GruumshWasRight
And now you would have to consider maybe just maybe Gruumsh did something that caused the other gods to dislike him and deny his people a place in the world?
@@Florian0799 we are working with what is been saed here not in " maybe's ", we are working with the canon that is , presumably, used by the elfs, and if eaven they don't have anything regarding that then I will say that the chances are very low
To be fair - in the full version of the myth Corellon basically says "Haha, that was a funny prank, but seriously i'm willing to negotiate giving land to the orcs" but Gruumsh was like "Nah"
Reminds me of Trinamac/Malacath from Elder Scrolls.
It really is insane how powerful godly abilities are. Just last session, my Warlock was explaining to some NPCs how we had helped defeat a Kuo-Toa-spawned "Avatar" of Lolth, and almost immediately a small house spider crawls up and bites my character, because if you say the name then they can hear and see you. This is also similar to how Orcus found out she killed one of his liches with a Hellfire Weapon, thus robbing him of a powerful undead soul, so she now has vulnerability to Necrotic damage via curse that's about as difficult to purge as infected Lycanthropy (can't just Remove Curse, need specific circumstances before doing so, or raw power like a Planetar's Healing Touch, which is our current plan).
Well, that's all how your DM plays it, but I like it.
I mean in older editions, when they had actual mechanics, it would be pretty similar. They could essentially cast scrying at will, with no material components, with a range of multiple miles, centered on their temples, their faithful, the mention of their name, or just anything related to their portfolio. So yeah your DM lines it up with how strong they should be based on lore, personally I can't stand DMs who downplay the gods. I had one DM who straight up said " most gods aren't even level 20." Like yes if you reach Level 20 your character should be overpowered but you should not be stronger then a God
@@agentchaos9332 Right, a level 20 character is strong enough to fight a quarter of a Drow Matron Mother, not an entire deity that's granting her spells.
Lolth literally was so petty that she made a spider bite that player just as a "fuck you" to them and I find that absolutely hilarious. She didn't go down to deal with them, or scream and force her will unto the party to save face. No, she went the passive aggressive route and I am here that 😂
@@shadowdroid776 Same tbh. Considering the DM ruled that the Hellfire Pact Weapon my Warlock finished her off with would not, in fact, damn an avatar aspect to the infernal servitude of my devil patron, she would've been well within her rights to be pissed at narrowly avoiding a speck of her divinity being trapped on the wrong half of the Blood War. But a mundane spider bite is absolutely the catty reaction I find to be so many layers of power move that it's amazing.
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More God spesific subclasses and other content would be awesome. I want to already request one for Eilistraee's clerics, Bladesinger-ish clerics sounds awesome.
Also, can we get a video about Gruumsh?
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The Feywarden is so cooooool! Is there an Eilistraee specialty subclass? Maybe... it could be made
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In his Eilistraee video, he says her clerics are basically Bladesingers, but clerics, and that their spell list includes Magic Missile and a unique spell that is basically a low level version of Wish.
@@TheHornedKing also gotta fight their big bad naked
@@Kris-wo4pj I don't remember that part. Actually, I remember something about them actually wearing armor if needed.
I'm guessing the human God is Pelor.
I love the subclass that you added. I think this is so incredible, my D&D campaign is currently heading towards a country of elves, so this video was in perfect timing! I think adding more of these subclasses would be fantastic, I plan on using thr Fey Warden for an NPC that I already had planned that is basically a Fey Warden, down to a T! Amazing video as always 🙌
Homemade content on specific gods or anything in that category is awesome and appreciated
You've actually gotten me sooooooooooo much more into the lore of D&D and i LOVE all of your videos that i've watched!
Damn, I think I'm the first viewer! I listen to your videos at work while preparing meat. By the way, I'm creating a new type of Drow that you might love because they worship Eilistraee
I remember reading that Gruumsh speech in the first Unearthed Arcana. My very favorite piece of D&D lore.
Yeah he's a real one for helping his boyz
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MrRhexx as a forever DM that writes mostly home brew games, your videos help me so much with inspiration, lore and how to play certain characters and monsters. You're the freakin best !
Seems like this is one god that actually improves him/her-self as time goes on. Both in knowledge and as a "person".
Love the pdf idea! Would totally use that and others like it in my campaign. My favorite part about your “homebrew” stuff is that it’s all informed as strictly as is practically possible by the actual lore and that it’s basically just stated out according to how it was already established in previous editions converted into 5e. But then for your actual books you add another layer to it with what would make it fun for the players without breaking the lore or getting to OP! Love all your content dude! Keep up the good work!!! ❤
I would *absolutely* be interested in seeing a small pdf supplement for these kinds of videos. I love seeing things that celebrate niche parts of the lore and make them accessible to players and DMs alike.
I love these videos, and I love how you made subclasses for these interesting bits of lore. I always love implementing them in my campaign and shocking my players. Thank you so much.
I've been watching your videos for years! I've bought a few of your PDF and looking forward to checking this one out, I LOVE when you drop stuff like this so... thank you!!!
Love the PDF.. haha, I find Sylvan Creature Form so very interesting. I've been building around this sort of power a bit, I introduced a dragon themed item that would allow the wielder to transform into a dragon of spending charges = CR rating with max charges = to lvl. They recharged a die worth each day and could pump extra sorc points into it to recharge counters as well. I set it at once per dawn, but realistically with the recharge rate it was every 2-3 days, and no legendary abilities. We're high magic, high fantasy, but unfortunately the item walked out the the PC when the player made a switch to their new char so we never saw it play out.
I would say... this spell is a little wild with lvl 7 hag, and lvl 8 hag options... lvl 7 is 4th level cleric spells so CR rating 7 or lower, and those options as I see them on D&D beyond are Korred (legit fun and powerful, and at once a long rest? Okay maybe. They only outshine everyone else once a day. Do they form with a great club? idk, probs not so then they carry one and drop it before casting, kinda cool), then Smiler the Defiler is a named fey so maybe not applicable? Again DM call there, but then theres..
Bheur Hag. Yikes. I could see an argument for them to have the greystaff as it's so key to their being, but even if they can't cast hold person at will or cone of cold from a 50ft fly (hover) speed they still get two frost shards per turn? Idk maybe I'm talking myself into it.... but for an hour to have a 60ft single target fireball x2 per round. Idk how I'd balance that in the party. Horrific Feast is *chef's kiss* though and I absolutely want to throw some against my party JUST to use that ability once in front of them hahaha
Idk, just musing on power balance really, not trying to make a judgement call! How do other folks, or you MrRhexx, see power balance with this sort of spell? Some creature types seem too weak, but Fey are always tricky and have those crazy spells.
One of your lore videos with added classes? This is Phenomenal! Thank you for everything you do
Love the Feywarden omg! Was literally trying to make a Cleric that was meant to be exactly this but I felt like everything I tried came up short. This is perfect! TY for making Mag-Riel the Feywarden possible!
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Shot, this was really cool. You always teach us things that you would have to look really deep into the old content to know.
I'd love a full breakdown of the seldarine
Yes please keep making these great additions. FYI: You are the official lore source for all Blackwolfe D&D games. :)
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I will be linking this video on my D&D gaming channel for my players to see. ( like your most videosn )
Becuz your videos usually do a really good job at simply explaining it in a fresh & clear way!
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hell yea, thanks for including the subclass :D I love it, super helpful
I actually love the Silmarillion artwork in the beginning, even with Balrogs.
Loving the videos, I would actually love to Hear more of other specialty priests for other deities!
Thank you for this video and the pdf!
What an amazing video! Really got me excited for the next elves I use in my game despite me not being super enthused to use them before
The subclass was an INCREDIBLY welcome surprise, I actually love bringing the lore I learn in your videos into my games as much as I can, it really makes the game feel more immersive and being able to create characters around it too is amazing
BF and I love your videos so much. Love the detail and enthusiasm, they're great to listen to and have had us fall more and more in love with the Forgotten Realms.
We've been trying to get into Pathfinder lately and in general it seems harder to find Golarion lore in the same detail as Forgotten Realms lore. idk if there's just not as much out there for it, or it just doesn't have as many people so passionate about it. But we've lamented "Man, we need a MrRhexx for Golarion."
My point is, thank your for what you do. Not enough people do this kind of thing, at least not as well.
Thanks for the free subclass, very cool and appreciated! I think combining these deep dive videos with a corresponding in-game updated content (subclass, monster stat block, etc.) is an amazingly good idea!
Oh man! PDFs of the stat sheets for the various creatures/characters you discuss in these vids would be INSANE! Like, I'd be happy if those were only available through at least your lowest level Patreon. Solid value!
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Amazing work, i am so thankfull for your info and the pdf too!
Thank you rhexx for another great video. The pdf is great and I can't wait to put it in my games for the future
thank you for the great resources, both the knowledge itself and the pdf 🙏
Would love more of this sort of stuff, keep up the good work!
you're a hero, especially for sharing your homebrew content. thanks a lot.
Haven't seen you on my feed lately. Want to see more of your content. Not going to use the homebrew, but I'm glad you did it.
Always amazing lore videos! Keep up the good work!
That's awesome! I loved your work on Dragon Hoards (Armour of Draconic Wildshape is one of my favourite magic items ever), I'll be checking out the PDF
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That was great! And I love to see more subclasses!
Dude, your elf-related videos are always crazy good. Thanks a lot :)
I definetly would love to see extra content for the game like monster stats and subclass!
Love all your lore vids! Keep up the great work!!
Excellent video Rhexx! I'm looking forward on a video about Gruumsh and the Orcish Pantheon! Keep it up!
Thank you again for the amazing video Rhexx!!!
This video was so long awaited. Thank you so so much. And hey, now I don't know if I should get the campaign or the armor pdf you released
I love your videos and The PDF you make... there are just great :)
Cool stuff man! Lookin forward on videos about the Crown Wars!
Great video once more! Very nice pdf.
Would love to see more, especially an Elistraee cleric one!
I think it would be awsome if your next play as monster books had wights in it.
The idea of playing a Wight like the fighter who deals loads of necrotic damage and has his little zombie hoard around him.
A Wight Knight, if you will.
i also think that he should make a vampire class!👍
Super cool video and LOVE the extra content!
Great video, really like the armour redesign. I think that the changes make the monster races you made make significantly more sense though I still think the - 10/15 to INT and CHA is a bit extreme for the Lycanthrope
this is awesome, thanks for the free pdf content mate I will try out the Feywarden with my next character
your the inspiration behind me building my own games thank you very much for your super hard work
Shadow magic is sooooo much more than just "the ability to deal damage with illusions." No one really cares whether the fire that is *actually* burning them is illusory or not. They want it to stop burning them. The ability to do unconventional damage is not the reason why it is seen as a corruption.
Shadow magic is illusion made real. The wildest fantasies given the same weight as the person next to you.
Even when those fantasies are not demented in any way... you lose sight of the world around you.
Oh, and there's the fact that the plane of shadow fuels shadow magic, and is an inherently depressing and sullen place. Its essence leaks through with every cast. Which people will then relate it to how negative energy fuels undead, and then say that that doesn't make sense, and that undead are pure and perfect automatons that have no cost whatsoever, so long as the necromancer is good.... and they say leaking negative energy doesn't make sense.
And then you start to wonder: why would a place, where illusions *are* reality be depressing? And then things start to click together even without the metaphysics.
Fucking exactly. So sick about the blind zealotry around "good" necromancers. Like shit, they're raising corpses that are being fueled by what is essentially ANTI-LIFE, that HAS to have consequences on the local environment.
SHAR CREATED it from the negative energy plane and some other bad crap. That's why it corrupts.
I love that you created the 5e version of the fae warden. This is something really cool that's very appreciated
0:51 hey, thanks for the shout out man! :D
love this, will check out the subclass soon
Always awesome. I'll continue watching every video.. love it all
Came here for the God Stats, came out with that, one new class made by you for free, AND another pdf made by you? My cup overflows with D&D goodies.
Very much appreciate the specialty priest "bonus info", and think that's a great idea for a little something for each niche you have a video for.
You blow me away MrRhexx, I can't believe you made me a class to play! Very cool video!
that sub class was such an amzing idea! def will use it in my campain
Awesome of you to make a free pdf of the cleric dude!
Thank you Very much for the Feywarden PDF. I will make a build with this right now lol
Thanks for the vid! Good info! Nice Feywarden subclass info!
Love the subclass! Please do more!! One for Moradin would be awesome!😎🤙
Like always such a great video thanks for the hard work.
I honestly would love to see more like this (the conversion of the fey warden) and be able to use it in my own games from time to time and getting certain stats of monsters that you cover that aren't in the monster manual, now I know that Dungeon Dad does this exact thing, but i would like to see what you make and the specifications of certain creatures, variations of a certain type of creature, spells, subclasses, races, and the like. I have run into a minor issue with some stuff where I have used lore of creatures that you have covered or even mentioned that aren't in the monster manual and struggled with some of their abilities in game, and what their stats may be. I find this subclass conversion very helpful and intriguing but I definitely don't want to put more work on Rhexx to go and convert everything, this is just merely a thought but doesn't necessarily need to be in your content because it is amazing enough. The amount of lore that is scrounged up and served to us is phenomenal.
Loved watching this video topic on Corellon, hope you'll be able to do one focusing on Mystra someday! 🤘
Wow thanks for the Fey Warden wright up! Can't wait to check it out.
thanks for the pdf! I'd like more of those if possible!
Legend!!! 🎉 thank you for all the effort my friend.
Calling the elven god the strongest?! THIS IS GOING IN THE BOOK OF GRUDES!
He also called Moradin the strongest. I guess it's just the title of this series.
Going off divine ranks, theres technically a 6 way tie for the strongest God in D&D. Moradin and Corellion are both rank 19, so are Zeus, Odin, Re-Horakety and some human agricultural goddess who's name I forget. So yeah its an attention grabber for the title, but they're both arguably the strongest
@@agentchaos9332 She's called Chauntea
I really don't understand why Grumsh is so much weaker in divine rank than Corellon. He literally has more worshipers and they have religious fervor. It makes no sense.
@@skankhunt4588 its prob just being a sterotypical Elves> Orcs Goblins and anything else.
Thanks for the PDF.
Good one, Gruumsh needs one of these.
Great video man. Subscribed
Always a pleasure to get a new video 😁
I waited for ages for this lore video, Corellon is sorta my patron deity and you've done real justice to them.
Now, I only wait for the video on Graz'zt the Dark Prince.
You just gave me so much room for ideas.
If you have a PC who's an elf in your party, you could have them encounter an orcish criminal, who sarcastically calls the elf brother or sister. That even could become a form of Nemesis to the party. (Yes, this was very inspired by Rango) Or maybe this could involve/introduce some form of sub-plot, where they uncover the knowledge of corellion and gruumsh being twin siblings...
Another great video. Thank's MrRhexx
Love your work brother hope you will be able to keep this up