The SECRET To Driving Limit of Grip Like a PRO...
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Driving the limit of grip is something we all strive for. But it can be a fine balancing act between setting lightning fast time, and heading a** first into the Armco. Sound lke something you’re strugglign with with? Well make sure you concentrate, low down on how you can drive on the limit like a pro and do them infamous slip angle technique (lol)
Let me introduce you to my friend, the traction circle, I think youll get along. It’s probably the easiest way of teaching people the basics of tyre grip, which as you know, is the single most major barrier between driving like a pleb and a god. In the traction circle, there’s 4 axis. Braking, accelerating, or turning either way. Pretty simple right? Well, not quite. Because, before we see I teach you how to use it, you need to fully understand how tyres work.
So let me explain it in fortnite terms. Tyres can only take a certain amount of abuse before they give out. Our lovely michelins only have 100 health. Now stick with me here. Whenever we accelerate, turn or brake, the tyres take some damage. So for example, accelerating hard could do 40 damage , then if adding a bit of steering, doing 60 damage, the tyres health is depleted and they go to the gulag… or lose grip
It’s all about managing and balancing the amount of load we put onto the tyres. As a driving god, you’ll need to keep this basic principle in the back of your mind at all times, and always be cautious of how much damage you’re dealing to your tyres. But don’t worry if you cant do this, because there is a quick and easy way to visualise this, without needing to use one of two of those all important braincells.
And that is to use the traciton circle I mentioned earlier. This inner circle represents 100 health, or the limit of grip. And see that small dot? That’s how much damage you’re doing, it’s measured by the g forces exerted through the car.
So, if you accelerate, you can see we’re doing about 40 damage to the tyre, and the G forces are travelling rewarwards through the car. Throw in some steecircle too, and you can see we’re getitng awfully close to killing the tyre, or the limit of grip, and the g forces are now travelling rear and left. If you accelerate and turn too much, you’re going to go over the 100hp and lose traction.
But what if I told you that everything ive been teaching you so far is a big fat like? Well, more on that in a moment.
For now, I’m going to make a massive, baseless assumption about your driving skill, so make sure you listen up to know whether you should get offended or not. When you first try out the traction circle, it’ll look one of two ways, let’s call them noob 1 and noob 2.
So here’s noob 1. They/them aren’t utilising very much of the tyre’s health, and this is shown by the dot getting nowhere near the circle. This means they’re breaking too early, accelerating too softly or not cornering hard enough. They’re nowhere close to the limit of grip, meaning they are slow af.
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this man is singlehandedly teaching zoomers how to sim race and im all for it
I use some of these techniques when I'm actually driving on the track of course I do with the scca but still this man teach me how to like actually drive
Keep the educational series going
Yes i agree
On god
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That's what I call quality. Great job!
so basically this is how takumi learned to drive...
That's what the cup of water was for.
@@DarkShinobi11 lmao
@@DarkShinobi11 no that was to learn the cars center of gravity meaning he always knew when how much steering he needed
@@Thefackerofannuses hum… what ?
Last time I checked the center of gravity do not need a dynamic indexer… I barely made it through few episodes of initial D before my eyes started to bleed… but a cup of water reveal strength and direction of the g forces.
Center of gravity is the result of the junk placed all around your car… like the dead horse early audi’s called an engine and was sitting in front of the front axle… or your mom on the back seat or the boot if she’s also dead… if you need to know your CG, you put scales under which wheel and derive from the weights measurement the approximate horizontal position of the CG, for the vertical one… that!s another sh1tshow altogether…
@@DarkShinobi11 lol, yeah when I saw the dot moving in the circle I was like oooh....ooooooooh, the dot is like the tip of the water, broooooo
The editing style in this is so good, good job.
Holy shit thats why Takumi had to drive with this watercup
i thought is for the weight shift thing
@SRRRB This IS weight transfer he just didn't mention it as that
Wow. Mind blown.
@@srrrb5953 it for all the above. I didn't use a a open container, nearly impossible not make a mess. But what I did was use a gallon milk jug. Fill it up half way or whatever and put it in the car somewhere. If you hare sloshing then your to rough with your inputs. The Fill up more and more to keep it interesting.
It teaches you wight tranfure and tire grip, and on my straight line shits I try and do without letting the water slush while banging gears
so its all of the above
this helped me when it comes to getting better at slip angle
I love your driving tutorials! They’re super informative but easily digestible. If I don’t get a concept on the first watch it’s easy to just watch it again. I attribute a lot of my progress as a driver to you and your videos
the circle: this is your maxim lateral grip considering longitudinal stress
the weight transfer in braking/accel: loads the tyres changing the front to rear grip balance and the net numeric value of the axle grip
to me the thing shouldn't be circular
also: brake bias can enter the chat as the porcentage of longitudinal stress can be different between rear and front, and same goes for accelerating in any drivetrain
the ride height and the wheelbase length can increase or decrease this effect: longer and lower cars will be closer to the circle, oposite for short tall cars
we would still missing aero and road condition effects on the graph
edit: this is personal opinion as I'm not engineer or any professional shit, take it into account
nobody that needs to use a traction circle should worry about any of that lol
@@TSRB how can I get that circle Cause I can’t find it in assetto Corsa?
That was a huge help! Made me understand what I’m doing so much more.
amazing video love the new style
Noob 2 looks like the guy who is way too much fun to hung around, noob 2 drives while high on gasoline fumes, noob 2 is the guy who shows up at the wedding in sweatpants, noob 2 is the guy who treats every stop light as launch point, noob 2 is the guy who keeps the worn out tyres because they slide better. We should all strive to be a bit more like noob 2
when i was young i heard a thing and it taught me a lot
"the more you break, the less you steer and vice versa, both pedals and the wheel have to be balanced, theres never nearly 100% of two at the same time"
after that i made my own version of it that only really works in my brain, but it was a great starting point
is it me or the editing leveled up
it looks really cool and I'm guessing that you are using after effects for this quality editing
did it not lag when editing?
btw I love your videos keep it up please ♥
if Adobe isn't crashing every time i click, i'm taking it as a sign that the video isn't finished haha, thanks!
yea the video is sick. im going to use more of that text stuck to an object effect
@@TSRBhave any intention to make a used music list? It is such a vibe!
Slip angle is one of the hardest things for me to explain so this is real cool
3:00 lol didn't expect to hear "Breath" here xD
👍👍🤘🤘
Did not realise there was a traction circle in AC this is such good info for me
very helpful thanks
such a wicked selection of music. Very rare you see anyone putting music like this into youtube videos.
My traction circle app doesn't have a circle in the app window..
Still see the traction data though. Any suggestions?
Can't wait to buy my first wheel, so that I can apply all of this man's knowledge in sim racing first before in my beater Civic that I always bring to mountain roads
Sheesh, the editing! Good vid!
That was the best vid i watched today thanks tsrb!!
I'm not going to lie I recall being aware of this "slight traction loss" long ago and purposely forcing my cars to do it. I never realized it has a proper naming for it, nor knew why or how it was produced, I always considered it to be just the same as losing total traction, but done so briefly the car could manage to "recover" soon enough to not spin out.
This wouldn't be the first technique I've been doing in many games completely unaware of how it was named, but apparently it's the one I utilized the most, and the one that gave me a bigger edge when racing.
I particularly recall Project Cars 2's formula cars being me just mastering this technique, my dumbass decided to hit that difficulty all the way up and I couldn't do shit without falling to the bottom of the list, besides this.
I then realized I was overdoing it when my tires were completely dead a couple of laps before the race was over, still gave me enough time to manage the first place, but man were those last laps frustrating as hell.
You're doing god's work with these videos, they're quite entertaining, simple yet detailed enough to teach pretty much anyone these days without becoming a chore. Keep it up!
Nicely done. Hit some fundamentals on the head.
where do i add this traction circle? cant seem to find it anywhere
Subtle prodigy. Thankyou sir.
Thank you this helped me initiation slip angle ha
agree it help me get my fisrt 1# victory royal!!11!
slip angle so fricken epic dud
@@TSRB ikr, i usually only activate it wen im against a tough opponent
Best Video bro THX so much for ur Videos
I actually watch these videos because there’s a fair bit of theory that applies to just driving in real life. I’m not saying I’ll have to inertia drift at 60+km in regular traffic, but it’s good to keep a mental recollection of what the CoM will do with which control so you won’t understeer or spin out just in case you need to make quick decisions during an emergency.
next, can you educate us on how to slip angle on straight line
Really good watch
Any tips for keyboard driving or mouse steering?
Song list? The drum n bass at 1:53 slapped
0:12 *IS THIS YOU?*
Hammond : *Nope* 👀
Noone really looks on artificial circle while driving, it's the matter of feeling. While driving i'm constantly utilising touch, balance and sight senses. And while simracing, through force feedback, touch sense is only way to feel "unglueing" of tyres. Instead of watching some dot in circle, one must focus on the forces that steering wheel are telegraphs.
You forgot to mention load. The reason why a pro seemingly "exceeds" the traction circle is because the road isn't flat and the suspension was loaded. Similarly, going over a crest even a pro won't be able to approach the 1G circle in a no-aero car.
Assetto has a traction circle? Damn, that'll help :D
Probably the best tip to noobie sim racers. Anytime someone tries my sim rig, it's full on brake or acceleration, no in between 😅
Once you get the hang of the cars grip, sim racing just clicks and becomes really fun. Before that it can feel really hard to drive and even do a normal paced lap.
Well, I don't know, if this video will help me, but it was definietly fun :D
big up for the Prodigy
Well made brother, well made 😂
What game and overlay for the traction circle? I can't find it, and I was looking for one for ac.
how you get the traction circle in AC? couldnt find it
Bros picking ALL the BANGER songs for the background music, keep it up with the D&B
The amount of quality can almost be compared to the amount of knowledge I'm gaining
Can you use the traction circle to create an ideal tune?
No, you can use telemetry to tune a car well.
@@peacemission305 yeah you gotta look at the tyres camber, temperature body roll suspension fuel aero gearing to tune a car, you can't just use a funi 2D circle
@@unkn0wn259 Traction circle is good for new drivers who need to understand what their car is doing to extract the most out of what's under them, which is very helpful when it comes to tuning a car to get what you want out of it, I have no idea how touge drivers (which I assume this video is about) set up their cars since I mostly do rally/circuit racing
Subbed because of CS HS sound.
can you share a link to this Lancer?
my internet died at exactly 1:32 while watching this.
definitely wasn't terrifying at all
I drive on the limit of traction irl (cause my Škoda Fabia suspension sucks ass so it pushes itself there every time I try to corner xd)
make video on hypermiling: accelerating, braking and steering alll done minimally and steadily, push power more closer to optimally efficient rpm as specifified by engine bfsc chart... all for less maintainence time and money in tire, brake, engine oil, fuel/electrcity, battery longevity. keep tire pressure optimal as specified by car company, usually in owners manual, change oil every 5000 miles, clean out air filter. this is like less extreme racing, you need to get places on time but also trying to minimize loss in tire brake engine performance and need to change that stuff mid race, every bit of drama is more purposeful ths exciting, better than only driving fast for fun. explain weights affect on saftey as done in aptera owners club video on safety, although lighter is not really so less safe than heavy, especially if using higher budget structural strentgth materials, heavy makes it less safe for lighter car which tend to be more common because they tend to be designed for cheap running cost in money and time, low emissions high long term materials economy sustinability for growing human population. mention that weight and weight futhur away from ground makes car less to handle speed around turns within a given budget of tire grip, power etc, more weight expoentially adds road wear payed for by taxes, semitruck downtime etc. announce a small discord i can send more idea
What's that app you've used for the traction circle?
Link is in my discord
i like your videos dude and i really dont want to be a pain but could you add the music track list you used in the video into video description please?
3:00 BREATHE THE PRESSURE
COME PLAY MY GAME, I'LL TEST YA
PSYCHOSOMATIC ADDICT, INSANE
hi
how to download the round please
how do i get the CiRcLe on console?
Ooh, what plugin is that?
what map are you driving on?
to me i like to think of the traction circle and the g graph as 2 separate things. The g graph is the circle with the dot on it, the dot moving with your gas and steering movements etc. But the traction circle to me is just the name of the circle itself, that represents the limit at which the car loses grip. The graph of gs being maneuvered in a smooth way is essentially a version of the water cup technique, where youd roll the water, or the dot, around the cup, or traction circle. a good way of thinking about it is that the spectrum of drift and grip are like 2 halves of a semicircle. The left part is the drift side, and the right part is the grip side, and the limit is right in the middle. You can drive with different styles on each side of the line, but approaching the line itself is the key to speed. This idea kindof extends into the traffic circle where inside the circle is grip and outside is drift, the idea is similar but a little more complex. the line at 3:54 is not exactly ideal, the transition from braking to steering is too abrupt and creates a sharp corner of sorts at the top. In initial D takumi would throw his inertia slightly the opposite way of the corner entry, to get the dot to go slightly left during the braking, and then swinging smoothly across the top, into the curve around towards the bottom end, where he would perform a similarly smooth application of the gas. This would prevent the water splashing out the front end of the cup during his intense braking, and essentially allow him to brake more. I know that line is the ideal and all but i think its important to note that you dont want those sharp corners on the top and bottom of the D shape. In reality the straight side of the D would slightly arc outwards towards the R side just enough to allow you to smoothly swing through the curve side.
4:23 what's the name of the music?
Yes Evo turned into a Sunburst
can i have the link to this mod?
map?
What track is this?
I just found that video and how tf are you able to edit it so well
i spend half of my free time editing xd
where can i get the traction circle app?
It's easy to Google, but there's no circle in it for me, just a moving dot :(
2:41 2022
they.. them? really?? dude i told you already im a god damn toyota corolla g6 e110 from 1999 with a 4A-FE 1.6 L (1587 cc) I4 engine with 16 DOHC valves and a 6-speed C161 manual transmission
sorry i didnt want to get cancelled for mis-gendering
Wish i could use these techniques but theres just some things you cant do on controller and being fast is one of them🤷🏾♂️
not true i know some fast controller drivers dont give up :)
i almost never overdrive the car in my rally games, i just overdrive my reaction time
Can you make more richard burns rally content?
I want to, it's a pain in the ass to make this style of video on it though
@@TSRB still, it skyrockets the views on that video, just look at that rbr video of yours, also try live for speed too, with s3 mods and touge layouts, it can be also perfect!
whats the name of the songs used in this video
look for the TSRB Records video I uploaded a couple weeks ago. All the songs I use are in it
What game is that?
What game is this?
This is just Bunta's cup of water method.
God I wish more games had the traction circle. Or maybe I should just play Assetto Corsa more.
man i just wanted to play fuck cry 3 but i had to update my drivers and watch yt, so not i am swetting up my wheel
Racing®
Course?
That bridge reminds me of the Usui Circuit. But I might be wrong 😅
@@SHIZURAKU You would be correct
the words easy and slipangle should not be in a sentence together
Roll the water in the cup
TSRB! You should try a game called. Mon bazou
I was addicted to it before i realised just how much syrup you need to make to buy literally anything
@@TSRB LOL. I just grow The funny green plant
Never been this early to a video lol
honestly i wonder is assetto corsa is really relevant like people make mods for it but hasnt it slowed down massively?
there are more people playing the game now than ever before
@@TSRB thanks for responding i was kinda getting burnt out i guess?
Now do it in beam instead of asseto
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I swear to god my cars have no front traction, none, I’ve driven real cars I know how it works but I can’t take a corner over 30 without my car just going in a straight line
The analogy is kinda confusing considering you talk about damage and I can't get tire wear out of my head.
U juste need a cup with water 👍
Simple. Get low grip tires. 🤔🤣
Bruh, im starting to think im just trash.
New mission to myself: try to do this with my sh1t controller
I'm confused. is this in relation to the game, or in real life lmao (first time viewer)
EDIT: I'd love a contraption wired to my car's wheels that would display the cirlce...
Ha you assume I’m not trying to drift
WOW THANK YOU FOR TEACH ME HOW TO BECOME A JOKE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
lmao
Are you having a dig at me or yourself lol
This video is straight fax
Think of it as %
100% break means 0% steering.
100% breaks plus 100% steering = wall
And yes pros can still find a way to split this and turn while breaking at 90% and Very Very smooth and little steering.
Great video tho.
My technique is after braking hard for a corner i release quickly so the rear tires kick out but then instead of countersteering i steer so much that i start understeering at the same time as im oversteering. Basically initiating a four wheel drift from the entry to the exit, bc then i just start countersteering a little when i reach my ideal drift angle then you'll be surprised how much easier the car aligns back to the exit. This entire thing puts a lot of stress on the tires but its very effective and safe if you do it right
@@FuntimeAG "after braking hard for a corner i release quickly"
bad bad, gotta trail brake to go fast
Why is every car yellow?!?!
he's secretly a member of SYFF
Cool video, loved the editing! lol I guess I'm the noob #2 cuz ever since I got better at drifting in assetto I just push every car to the limits ending up drifting most of the corners.
But yea grip racers are faster on the touge, it's just that I have much more fun drifting so I won't stop, not like I am aiming to become the best racer anyway.