My former doctor was a victim of a stalker who ultimately killed her and himself in a murder/suicide in a department store parking lot. After her death, it was revealed that he stalked her every day for several months. He kept detailed journals on her clothing she wore, places she went, and the people she talked to. She went through every legal channel she could to get rid of him. She was a beautiful, compassionate and intelligent doctor. I still think about her.
My friend's ex husband was deported to Honduras (she found out he was here illegally as well as some other unsettling things). He managed to get back in the country and showed up at her house in Missouri unannounced. He said he was there to kidnap her and then was going to force her to kill 2 people. She contacted Homeland Security - it took them over a month to respond back. She contacted the local police who said "he hasn't done anything yet." ?????????? What kind of response is that
I had the creepiest letter sent to my house after blocking my ex on every single possible media platform available 7 months prior. He told me he would be travelling from a country half way across the world to find me again. I took the letter to the police and showed them all of the horrible shit he used to say to me in texts… he showed up in my country and the police did nothing. He went to my place of work and they didn’t even call me to tell me that it was reported. So much for crime prevention… he could have killed me and they wouldn’t have even checked in on me that day. I went out of the city to hide which is the only reason he didn’t get to me. I have absolutely no trust in police anymore.
Goblin, if they were taken seriously, Christina Grimmi might still be alive and maybe became Olivia Rodrigo before we ever heard of the "Driver's License" singer.
The people who sold him the gun? The manufacturers and laws that make it so damn easy to kill, quickly, efficiently, and from a distance? What about the fact that their were no stalking laws in effect then, or the entire system that has never taken mental illness seriously? There is just so much blame to go around.
Stalking still isn't viewed as dangerous as it should be, and is far too often dismissed. In the UK a woman was recently charged with wasting police time, shorty before her stalker murdered her.
I just read about the Shana Grice case that you mentioned. What an absolute failure by the Sussex police. I can't believe they fined her for that, and the idiot cops involved got no punishment.
I think that it was smart to first tell Rebecca's story without a mention of Bardo, abruptly end it with "then tragedy struck", and then start talking about Bardo's story. It highlights what things looked like from her perspective and how she lived blissfully unaware of this stalker, and how scary and confusing it must have been for her when Bardo came to her apartment. She was a huge part of his life, but she didn't even know that he existed. Bardo's delusions were scary...
I've had a stalker that had been contacting me on and off, showing up to my yard and gate since 2008. Hundreds of calls and messages, hand written letters... The guy used to work for my father and would watch my sister and I with everything we did. When he got fired, that's when the messages and the likes started. It's terrifying and what is really terrifying is the lack of police assistance. This case is absolutely heartbreaking and frightening. What a loss to the world.
That's one thing sounds terrifying and unfortunately the fact that women seem to be targets of stalking much more than men. I could only imagine how terrifying it works be to have somebody constantly watching/following you and even more terrifying that they are usually mentally unstable in some way, which makes them more unpredictable. Sorry you had to deal with that.
This was a wonderful tribute to Rebecca Schaeffer. She was a talented actress and seemed to be a lovely person. I remember how heartbreaking It was to hear the news of her death and you certainly did her life justice.
Stalking destroy lives. I experienced the most awful situation that has left me paranoid and hyper vigilant. I'm lucky I got through it. (almost 10 years ago) police won't do anything. Restraining orders won't save you either. Rip to Rebecca. 💔💔💔💔💔
It's a frightening situation and I can't imagine what kind of torture it must be. Someone else is causing such danger and problems for you and you have little to no control over your own life. Such obsessive and delusional behaviour is something so illogical, I wouldn't know what to do!
I know exactly how infuriating and hopeless it feels to be a victim of these insane freaks. Police do not take it seriously no matter how many obviously threatening things happen. Until we are physically attacked it’s like nothing is happening to us.
He lived next door to me and my grandparents in Tucson when I was 3/4. My grandparents were his parent's landlords. He kept trying to get me to play through the chainlink fence, which my family didn't like because he was 10 years older. My grandmother was a school secretary, mentioned his name to a social worker in conversation. The social worker responded with "I really can't say anything, but keep him away from your grandchildren " 😳 My grandmother remembered that the dad was always yelling at him. This was roughly 5 years before the murder. But yup, indirectly knew Bardo lol
As a woman who’s had a stalker before, this story is devastating & terrifying. To think that this kind of thing happens every day is so scary & I’m so thankful things went the way they did for me. It’s also terrifying to think that in a world like this with so many people that get obsessed and stalk others, people still put their children online and give out every single detail about their personal lives on social media and make it so easy for something like this (or worse) to happen to their kids. 😢😢😢
Rebecca’s murder happened when my husband and I were on our honeymoon. It was all over the news while we were traveling, and it was impossible not to get caught up in it. Such a horrible tragedy. And Bardo left such an overwhelming number of red flags!
i experienced (am experiencing because it doesn’t really end) something like this, and every older woman i told my story to had experienced something similar or worst. incredibly common and there aren’t many spaces for us to share our stories until one of us is affected. even then, it’s really difficult to speak up. im glad it sounds like your situation is mostly over. wishing you much peace in life
Yup, reminds me of a time when I was 15 at Walmart and there was this creepy guy stalking me down every aisle I went. He asked me how old I was and when I said 15 he didn't care!!! He was still trying to talk to me 🤢 he probably went and posted on an incel forum after complaining about how women are all stuck up and if only he was a Chad then he would be successful
@Daathiel that's cool bro we all have desires , some more stronger than others but you just have to not give in to those desires. Some people have certain weaknesses that others dont but we all have something we got to work on and fight all the way to our grave even and God is able to deliver. Giving in to those thoughts and desires just makes it stronger. God delivered me from lust and masturbation for years now. I still have dreams and the devil tries to tempt me but if I were to give in the bible says seven more spirits more wicked than itself will enter. So giving into these thoughts just makes it worse and it is possible to starve them off. I know it's tougher for men out there but they have a responsibility to deal with it and its just the entitlement that angers me. Killing a girl over your perversion is wrong.
@@viviandavissPart of me is glad u seem to have strengthened your self control, but a part of me is also concerned because this is also how many deviants sound. Their schtick is usually an obsession with an idea which they have convinced themselves of, that they need to save you, and that they are the only one who can do it.
@@incomingincoming1133 I'm not no deviant what lol, it is totally possible to be delivered from any sin. And I cant save anyone but jesus can. Even homosexuals are able to be delivered, yea they still struggle but we all have the ability to not give in
I cant imagine her parents suffering. To have only 1 child, and to have that child blossom into a star. To be so full of pride over them. And to have them stolen from you by a monster. Execution is the only true justice for men like this
I remember watching this show with my mom when I was in Jr high. We do feel parasocial relationships with famous actors, their work can touch us very deeply. The loss of Robin Williams comes to mind. But thankfully most of us live in reality and we know that we do not really know these people and they owe us nothing, and deserve their lives and privacy. Such a horrible story, a real loss of a real person 💔
Well said. Musician Chester Bennington's passing hit me harder than that of some close relatives... I also feel a connection to several content creators online, but as you said, fully aware of the nature of that connection.
For me it was John Kennedy Junior. It probably sounds odd for someone in NZ, but I almost feel like I grew up with him as all though my childhood there were magazine stories about him almost weekly. It seemed every significant thing in his life we were there, even the mundane ones such as him just walking down a NY street with his dog. I was shocked to the core when he and his wife and her sister were killed, and still feel quite sad about it.
this is very reminiscent of Bjork's stalker. it's crazy to see the mindset one has and the delusional standard they hold of themselves, thinking that they are entitled to anybody, let alone a celebrity. sadly, Rebecca wasn't as lucky as Bjork, but ultimately, videos like this help bring more awareness toward establishing a good response to these cases and get a happy resolution.
Fun Fact: On an episode of The Golden Girls ("Nothing to Fear But Fear Itself"), Sophia makes a joke about My Sister Sam ("I always drink wine during cooking contests and My Sister Sam) - it aired two years before Rebecca's July 1989 murder. The joke was removed from the syndicated cut of the episode for subsequent broadcasts, reportedly out of respect for Schaeffer (although it definitely did turn up in reruns and honestly was the only way I knew anything about My Sister Sam as a kid).
It's weird he had plans to also stalk Samantha Smith and was only stopped by the plane crash. There's an entire Golden Girls episode based on her story only its Rose writing to the USSR and its from the same season as the episode mentioned in the OP
I really feel like mentioning this. If you ever have a stalker rember that they aren't your stalker, just a a stalker. It seems small but you really want to avoid drawing a link between them and you.
What's really crazy is his family were all well aware of his mental illness yet his brother still got him a gun. Stupidity & ignorance must also run in the family.
i personally am a deep appreciator of the classic dreading storytelling style vids rather than the full interrogation uploads. it's a great day, thank you
I agree. I have to nope out with interrogation videos. Mainly due to my hearing and being unable to discern the conversations. I'm sure other people like it, I'm just unable to get through them.
If you weren't born around 1989 or if you were very young then you wouldn't have. She was only 22 when she was murdered. The show My sister Sam didn't have a long run either. I heard or her and probably an episode, but unfortunately her murder eclipse her talent. I was 16 when she was murdered. Everything the narrator says is true. He just went in more detail about Rebecca trying to get into show business. He also reported more about her stalker. Such a shame 😢😢❤❤
I've had a stalker. It was so odd how it escalated. He was a friend one day and I smiled a certain way that triggered something within him. Calls, gifts, unannounced pop ups (work, school, home), so many other disturbing things that made me wonder if he would take my life. The police are of no help in these cases. I manage to move to another state but still to this day, I am so cautious with my social media activity and making sure my info is secure.
Like so many here, I remember Rebecca and her tragic death at a time when so many cases of stalking including the stabbing attack on actress Theresa Saldana showed the true seriousness of stalking and the need for privacy and personal information to remain private. Something which unfortunately people are learning the hard way and importance of today. Thank you to the Subscriber who recommended Rebecca's story be re-told to a new age of viewers and also to you Dreading Channel for so graciously paying tribute to an incredibly talented and sorely missed young woman!
PLEASE consider covering the Genie feral child case. Absolutely heartbreaking story that not many people have covered on TH-cam, you could be one of the first. Great job as always!
That case will always be one that gives me strong feelings. I've watched a documentary on it, and a pediatric doctor said that he would rather see someone break every bone in a child's body than for them to be left alone and abused in the way that she was. It's haunting.
I'm in favour of this, but only if they stick to directly reporting the facts. So many people have used the Genie case to make wild speculations about the bases of human psychology and while yes, the case is interesting from a scientific standpoint, one singular case cannot and should not be used to make any generalizations.
That story will stay with me forever. I think it does that to everyone who hears about it. Genie deserves so much better than what she’s been through and that’s a serious understatement.
This is beyond disturbing. That an absolute stranger can put so much effort and irrational emotion into another and you've no idea this is going on, is frightening. No wonder the very famous have to spend so much on security. Unfortunately, most of us don't have that option.
All because she just wanted to make someone who she thought was a fan of hers happy by writing back a letter to him. It's like the Christina Grimmie situation. She went in for a hug because it was from the goodness of her heart and she lost her life because of it. So damn tragic.
Can you imagine just watching a movie and you get to a sex scene. All of a sudden, some random guy a few rows up starts freaking out and kicking chairs 😂😂😂
I love that your videos include long court case and interrogation footage, but my favorite part of watching your work is hearing your words. Would love to hear more of you on these cases! This was a great one. Thank you and your brother for your hard work and sharing these stories.
dreading, I watched your video on the late and beautiful Christina Grimmie not too long ago. Christina's story and Rebecca's story haunts celebrities and the public to this day. Thank you for finally making a video on the late and beautiful Rebecca Schaeffer.
So many lives has been taken by this phenomenon : Christina Grimmie (i still go to her channel and listen to her cover of titanium, i have never listened to anyone that touched me in a way she did with that song) , Bjork very narrowly escaped her stalker fortunately, the influencer whose stalker slit her throat and then took pictures and uploded it (bianca devon I think I am sorry I don’t remember her name, I don’t mean any disrespect). This happens way too often. I understand these individuals are ill but it doesn’t change the fact they killed/hurt someone innocent.
Why is it that there are very few mentally ill women who will do these things? The vast majority of women is straight up terrified of leaving home to get to work because they know that a man might see them and decide to stalk and murder them. We are taught to minimise ourselves and be hypervigilant, and men are taught to be aggressive, demanding and abrasive. Then the entire society puts on a Pikachu face when yet another woman is murdered due to the myriad of reasons men come up with. (I'm not only talking about stalking and erotiomania). Fuck this, teach men to minimise themselves instead and to be less aggressive. The only way to a peaceful society is when men will learn how to be less emotional
I am only 2 mins into this video and can tell it's going to be good. And from the comments I can tell you do the story of her life justice. As you always do. Became a patron last month. So glad I could do I could support the channel.
the worst and most dangerous stalkers are the ones who were previously in a relationship with their victim. Always report any threats and stalking behaviour to law inforcement, family and friends. don't try to handle it alone.
I'm not sure why I play these videos while I'm working because either I won't pay attention to the story or I won't be able to focus on my work, but your voice is so soothing and I appreciate all the work put into these and your respect for the victims and their families.
In adittion to the main victim, Rebecca, (who was failed by her security, her shooter's brother & his PI, as well as her killer), I was upset to hear of Samantha Smith, who promoted peace at such a young age but was killed only 3 years later?!? So unjust. Really sad
Not to be annoying, but I would argue the Son of Sam was the original OG incel. He killed women and a bunch of their boyfriends because he was lonely and romantically frustrated.
What a senseless tragedy. No doubt he is not mentally well, but that doesn't mean he's not guilty. He is a danger to society. I'm so sorry to hear about this. I've heard of the show and her name but was not familiar with either. It sounds like she was looking forward to a new role, but was robbed of the chance to fulfill that dream. 😥
That ending came full circle for me, how something someone created spoke to you. The last poem was beautiful. I have always wished I had wings, to fly and explore. I never knew her or of her work, but I'm glad to know of her now. She was a beautiful person. Thank you for the video, you and your brother do awesome work!
The most famous case of all was the case of John Lennon. Deranged fan killed him to be famous. I won't mention his name. "He's the man whose name we must never mention." This was from Paul McCartney.
You posted this 3 hours ago & you already have 20k views & thousands of likes, I couldn’t be happier for you!! This story has always been dear to me. Extraordinarily sad & unfair. It reminds me a little bit of another actress taken way way too soon; Dominique Dunne. I think it would be wonderful to keep her memory alive by telling her story. Your channel is exceptional, you would give her justice. Another angle is the “Poltergeist curse” because a disturbing amount of people died between the first & third films. You would be awesome at sussing out all the rumors from the facts on that! You are the bestest, The End
I think the scariest and most tragic part of all is the fact she didn’t even know she was being stalked, not until he finally showed up at her home that day. She never could’ve seen her death coming, much less even knew she was in danger. That’s frightening
I stop what I'm doing or watching when I get a notification for Dreading. There's something about the narrator's style and voice that makes me want to immediately watch the latest release. ❤
It's insane how much this case parallels the plot of the movie Perfect Blue by Satoshi Kon. 😢 Even down to the fact that a sex scene is what turned him into violence, based off of the guy thinking the perfect image they have of the actress is tainted now. It's all I could think about while watching.
18:19 He owed it to Rebecca to kill himself before he ever tried to hurt her. I don’t believe these kinds of people can be rehabilitated, they’re depraved. I believe, at a certain point, you’re too far gone due to a toxic and harmful upbringing. Stalking with any kind of violent undertones (which is usually the case) should result in the stalker automatically getting 25 years in prison. It is more often than not a precursor to someone being capable of causing serious harm to a person. But that’s just my 2 cents.
I swear I just adore this channel! ❤..Always good content and well edited! Going beyond the stories and showing us things we didn't even know about the cases! ..Another good story as usual 👍😊..
This was such a sad story when it happened. It really was one of those cases that FINALLY made law enforcement consider stalking a crime, though it would take so long even after for this to be taken very seriously, if that makes sense.
I cannot believe that the studio did not warn that poor girl about this crazy guy trying to make contact with her….. like give a girl a heads up! 🤷🏼♀️
my old neighbor was my stalker and the last time i saw him he was close to my school trying to get me to talk to him which was like 10 years ago and knowing i was a child the whole time he lived there even now still fcks me up.. ppl don’t realize how much it messes with you and makes living carefree almost impossible
I've watched coverage of this case before but I always appreciate the great research and extensive analysis the channel provides. I find that videos always very respectful to the victims and their families and fully encompassing the information of the case more thoroughly than any other reports.
I love love love this channel, I've binged the last few days after just finding you. Have you ever considered a Lucy Letby profile? Just found out about it, and would love dreading's assessment on her case
I appreciate your channel, crime and psychology. I've always been a bit of a citizen detective, my dad introduced forestic files to me and I was hooked. I don't watch anything that isn't real/true crime because it's a depiction of the facts and not based on the whole picture. I took psychology in school so I understand your mind and the content you put out. You tell the back stories, the facts of the case and leave us to interpret the truth. Thank you for this story and everything you do!
It really is sad that some famous people deal with stalkers every day, even though their lives are luxurious there still are dangers to being a performer or actress :(
When you said " oh fcuk! " that reply unwittingly sealed her faith and also made his delusion of them being lovers even more believed in his mind.... ITS ALWAYS THE PEOPLE WHO SHINE THE BRIGHTEST AND HAVE NO THOUGHT OF FAN'S WHO ARE LIKE THIS BEEN SADLY TAKING WAY TO EARLY...THE HUMAN MIND IS FACINATING AND ALSO SICKENING AT THE SAME TIME...I LOVE THIS CHANNEL BECAUSE OF YOUR WAY OF COMING ACROSS AS JUST ONE OF US ...WHAT I MEAN IS YOUR NOT STICKING DEPLOMAS, DEGREES ECT, YOUR BROTHER AND YOURSELF DO YOUR RESERCHING AND THEN DELIVER A GREAT PEICE WHICH REALLY TELLS THE VICTIM'S STORYLINE AND OF COURSE THEN WHAT HAPPENS..ALL DONE WITH RESPECT FOR THE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO GRIEVES TODAY AND FOREVER OVER THERE LOSS.... THANKS DREADING FOR YOUR GREAT WORK..
He apparently got stabbed 11 times in prison, unfortunately it doesn't sound like it did much damage. Glad to hear he's having fun though! Hope he gets to repeat the experience someday.
@@oliveryt7168 I'm not for lynching, but tbh I feel there is a surprising lack of self awareness and an infinite sense of grandiosity that men generally have. Women feel so unworthy of things generally e.g how they don't even apply for jobs if they feel that they won't be the best candidate. I understand that labeling them as incels further alienates them and exacerbates the problem, but as a woman these men can go to hell. I want them to be cuffed at home or be administered some kind of poison so that I don't have to be hypervigilant when I leave home to get to my job.
I really enjoy your content, and your narration and story-telling style. Thanks for all the effort you put into your videos. This was a really sad case, and the world was robbed of a truly bright light that day.. :/
Sheesh…the moment Dreading read the letter that Rebecca wrote back, I literally thought to myself “f^ck” at the same time as Dreading…which unfortunately, made me laugh.
Although this is a rare disorder, a movie about it was made in 2004 with Daniel Craig, Samantha Morton and Rhys Ifans. It was so well done I bought a copy. Rhys Ifans and Daniel Craig are strangers who go through a trauma together and this sets Rhys Ifans' character (Jed Parry) on a mission to win Joe (Daniel Craig) over. He stalks him relentlessly. The name of it is _Enduring Love._ It's one of the creepiest stalker movies I've ever seen. Moreover, it portrays this dangerous illness really well.
Rebecca’s horrible murder is always talked about but no one ever talked about who she was like Dreading did. I didn’t know she wrote poetry. It was good poetry at that. Thanks so much for this tribute to her. It was incredibly well done and compassionate.
So sad..I remember this show from second grade very early in my life. ❤ Now that I am older and found out her life was taken it is heartbreaking and sad. I remember the show being good. God rest her soul.
My former doctor was a victim of a stalker who ultimately killed her and himself in a murder/suicide in a department store parking lot. After her death, it was revealed that he stalked her every day for several months. He kept detailed journals on her clothing she wore, places she went, and the people she talked to. She went through every legal channel she could to get rid of him. She was a beautiful, compassionate and intelligent doctor. I still think about her.
Wow, What a sad story (and many like it).
That's infuriating. What an unbelievable waste
WHAAAAAAAAAAT! 😮😢
That’s so sickening that the legal system can’t do more about stalkers bc it more than likely leads to the worst like THIS. So sorry to hear 😢
And I'd bet you if she'd killed him in self-defense, she'd get charged.
Unfortunately, even today, stalking cases are not taken seriously until someone is hurt or murdered.
My friend's ex husband was deported to Honduras (she found out he was here illegally as well as some other unsettling things).
He managed to get back in the country and showed up at her house in Missouri unannounced.
He said he was there to kidnap her and then was going to force her to kill 2 people.
She contacted Homeland Security - it took them over a month to respond back.
She contacted the local police who said "he hasn't done anything yet."
?????????? What kind of response is that
I had the creepiest letter sent to my house after blocking my ex on every single possible media platform available 7 months prior. He told me he would be travelling from a country half way across the world to find me again.
I took the letter to the police and showed them all of the horrible shit he used to say to me in texts… he showed up in my country and the police did nothing. He went to my place of work and they didn’t even call me to tell me that it was reported.
So much for crime prevention… he could have killed me and they wouldn’t have even checked in on me that day.
I went out of the city to hide which is the only reason he didn’t get to me.
I have absolutely no trust in police anymore.
That's because 99% of supposed stalking cases are pure fiction from dumpy broads looking for attention
Nothing is taken seriously unless someone is hurt or murdered..law enforcement is more often than not useless
Goblin, if they were taken seriously, Christina Grimmi might still be alive and maybe became Olivia Rodrigo before we ever heard of the "Driver's License" singer.
As soon as you mentioned Rebecca responding to Bardo's letter, i knew exactly how it would end.
"Ah, fuck.", indeed.
I think his brother should also be held accountable for getting his mentally ill brother a gun.
As should the PI that gave the murderer her address
@@redisthecoolestcolouras should the DMV who disclosed her address to the PI
The people who sold him the gun? The manufacturers and laws that make it so damn easy to kill, quickly, efficiently, and from a distance? What about the fact that their were no stalking laws in effect then, or the entire system that has never taken mental illness seriously? There is just so much blame to go around.
@@AJonthecasethere isn't a single law that does what your describing
@@AJonthecasewhat does the manufacturer of the gun have to do with anything. It was an illegal gun
Stalking still isn't viewed as dangerous as it should be, and is far too often dismissed. In the UK a woman was recently charged with wasting police time, shorty before her stalker murdered her.
Which case was this?
@@lazerguided_ Shana Grice
It must have been Shana Grice in 2016, because she actually was accused (not charged) of wasting polices time@@lazerguided_
@@lazerguided_Shana Grice
I just read about the Shana Grice case that you mentioned. What an absolute failure by the Sussex police. I can't believe they fined her for that, and the idiot cops involved got no punishment.
I think that it was smart to first tell Rebecca's story without a mention of Bardo, abruptly end it with "then tragedy struck", and then start talking about Bardo's story. It highlights what things looked like from her perspective and how she lived blissfully unaware of this stalker, and how scary and confusing it must have been for her when Bardo came to her apartment. She was a huge part of his life, but she didn't even know that he existed. Bardo's delusions were scary...
I've had a stalker that had been contacting me on and off, showing up to my yard and gate since 2008. Hundreds of calls and messages, hand written letters... The guy used to work for my father and would watch my sister and I with everything we did. When he got fired, that's when the messages and the likes started. It's terrifying and what is really terrifying is the lack of police assistance. This case is absolutely heartbreaking and frightening. What a loss to the world.
That's one thing sounds terrifying and unfortunately the fact that women seem to be targets of stalking much more than men.
I could only imagine how terrifying it works be to have somebody constantly watching/following you and even more terrifying that they are usually mentally unstable in some way, which makes them more unpredictable.
Sorry you had to deal with that.
...And then you find out the entire time.... he was a GHOST!😱👻
Of course the cops do nothing, they just don't care. I hate it.
@@WobblesandBeancuz it's a fake story
@@justadildeau nothing ever happens
This was a wonderful tribute to Rebecca Schaeffer. She was a talented actress and seemed to be a lovely person. I remember how heartbreaking It was to hear the news of her death and you certainly did her life justice.
Stalking destroy lives. I experienced the most awful situation that has left me paranoid and hyper vigilant. I'm lucky I got through it. (almost 10 years ago) police won't do anything. Restraining orders won't save you either. Rip to Rebecca. 💔💔💔💔💔
It's a frightening situation and I can't imagine what kind of torture it must be. Someone else is causing such danger and problems for you and you have little to no control over your own life. Such obsessive and delusional behaviour is something so illogical, I wouldn't know what to do!
I know exactly how infuriating and hopeless it feels to be a victim of these insane freaks. Police do not take it seriously no matter how many obviously threatening things happen. Until we are physically attacked it’s like nothing is happening to us.
I had a stalker in 2020. Got armed and trained. I'm now a huge advocate for gun ownership and concealed carry. It's the only answer
Ugly chicks crave stalkers
@@SquiddyBonneBouche That's so frustrating, being told you have to wait for the inevitable for anything to be done.
He lived next door to me and my grandparents in Tucson when I was 3/4. My grandparents were his parent's landlords. He kept trying to get me to play through the chainlink fence, which my family didn't like because he was 10 years older. My grandmother was a school secretary, mentioned his name to a social worker in conversation. The social worker responded with "I really can't say anything, but keep him away from your grandchildren " 😳 My grandmother remembered that the dad was always yelling at him.
This was roughly 5 years before the murder.
But yup, indirectly knew Bardo lol
Wow. Interesting! That’s crazy that the social worker said that….
🚩Red Flags‼️ Society could have / should have stopt him.
Bull 🐂💩
@Englishteacher666 DUDE*. My god, dude
Damn, you remember being 3/4ths of a year old?! Dang
Who else loves it when Mr Dreading breaks character and reacts the way we would?
I do!
It's the best.
It's okay.. Sometimes it's a nice moment.
me!
💯😊
As a woman who’s had a stalker before, this story is devastating & terrifying. To think that this kind of thing happens every day is so scary & I’m so thankful things went the way they did for me. It’s also terrifying to think that in a world like this with so many people that get obsessed and stalk others, people still put their children online and give out every single detail about their personal lives on social media and make it so easy for something like this (or worse) to happen to their kids. 😢😢😢
😂 ya right. Ugly chicks crave e
People should not post ANYTHING about their children on-line (too many Wierdo's out there!)
Rebecca’s murder happened when my husband and I were on our honeymoon. It was all over the news while we were traveling, and it was impossible not to get caught up in it. Such a horrible tragedy. And Bardo left such an overwhelming number of red flags!
I feel bad for your husband
@@justadildeauwhy?
@@ej5677 This person is just weird, making strange comments in other videos and this thread
@@justadildeaudamn you're weirder than me and I'm a furry
You know, in the old days, people would be put in mental institutions, now, they let them all OUT or they don't put them in to begin with!
Many, many women experience this, including myself, starting at 13 years old. It should be much more exposed and prosecuted than it is.
i experienced (am experiencing because it doesn’t really end) something like this, and every older woman i told my story to had experienced something similar or worst. incredibly common and there aren’t many spaces for us to share our stories until one of us is affected. even then, it’s really difficult to speak up. im glad it sounds like your situation is mostly over. wishing you much peace in life
Yup, reminds me of a time when I was 15 at Walmart and there was this creepy guy stalking me down every aisle I went. He asked me how old I was and when I said 15 he didn't care!!! He was still trying to talk to me 🤢 he probably went and posted on an incel forum after complaining about how women are all stuck up and if only he was a Chad then he would be successful
@Daathiel that's cool bro we all have desires , some more stronger than others but you just have to not give in to those desires. Some people have certain weaknesses that others dont but we all have something we got to work on and fight all the way to our grave even and God is able to deliver. Giving in to those thoughts and desires just makes it stronger. God delivered me from lust and masturbation for years now. I still have dreams and the devil tries to tempt me but if I were to give in the bible says seven more spirits more wicked than itself will enter. So giving into these thoughts just makes it worse and it is possible to starve them off. I know it's tougher for men out there but they have a responsibility to deal with it and its just the entitlement that angers me. Killing a girl over your perversion is wrong.
@@viviandavissPart of me is glad u seem to have strengthened your self control, but a part of me is also concerned because this is also how many deviants sound. Their schtick is usually an obsession with an idea which they have convinced themselves of, that they need to save you, and that they are the only one who can do it.
@@incomingincoming1133 I'm not no deviant what lol, it is totally possible to be delivered from any sin. And I cant save anyone but jesus can. Even homosexuals are able to be delivered, yea they still struggle but we all have the ability to not give in
"she stated the letter was the most beautiful thing she ever heard.....ah fuck!"
I howled 😂
dreading knows what's up
I cant imagine her parents suffering. To have only 1 child, and to have that child blossom into a star. To be so full of pride over them. And to have them stolen from you by a monster. Execution is the only true justice for men like this
I remember watching this show with my mom when I was in Jr high. We do feel parasocial relationships with famous actors, their work can touch us very deeply. The loss of Robin Williams comes to mind. But thankfully most of us live in reality and we know that we do not really know these people and they owe us nothing, and deserve their lives and privacy. Such a horrible story, a real loss of a real person 💔
Well said. Musician Chester Bennington's passing hit me harder than that of some close relatives...
I also feel a connection to several content creators online, but as you said, fully aware of the nature of that connection.
For me it was John Kennedy Junior. It probably sounds odd for someone in NZ, but I almost feel like I grew up with him as all though my childhood there were magazine stories about him almost weekly.
It seemed every significant thing in his life we were there, even the mundane ones such as him just walking down a NY street with his dog.
I was shocked to the core when he and his wife and her sister were killed, and still feel quite sad about it.
John Prine’s death hit me like the loss of a friend. These are great artists who affect us so deeply. Delusional people are so sad and dangerous.
I'm not a sychophant because I met many famous celebrities and singers working in nightclubs in NY
Conversely, when someone I don't like, say, gets arrested, I rejoice and laugh at the mugshot.
this is very reminiscent of Bjork's stalker. it's crazy to see the mindset one has and the delusional standard they hold of themselves, thinking that they are entitled to anybody, let alone a celebrity.
sadly, Rebecca wasn't as lucky as Bjork, but ultimately, videos like this help bring more awareness toward establishing a good response to these cases and get a happy resolution.
Fun Fact: On an episode of The Golden Girls ("Nothing to Fear But Fear Itself"), Sophia makes a joke about My Sister Sam ("I always drink wine during cooking contests and My Sister Sam) - it aired two years before Rebecca's July 1989 murder. The joke was removed from the syndicated cut of the episode for subsequent broadcasts, reportedly out of respect for Schaeffer (although it definitely did turn up in reruns and honestly was the only way I knew anything about My Sister Sam as a kid).
It's weird he had plans to also stalk Samantha Smith and was only stopped by the plane crash. There's an entire Golden Girls episode based on her story only its Rose writing to the USSR and its from the same season as the episode mentioned in the OP
I remember that episode and it's immediately what I thought of when Samantha's story was mentioned. @@KammybRich7000
Holy shit. No way. The USSR ep is so good.
@@pixiefrogbb Only recently found out that it was based off of a real person. Just different to watch that ep now knowing about how she died
Wow good catch on that. I don't remember ever hearing that line in the Golden Girls.
I really feel like mentioning this. If you ever have a stalker rember that they aren't your stalker, just a a stalker. It seems small but you really want to avoid drawing a link between them and you.
What's really crazy is his family were all well aware of his mental illness yet his brother still got him a gun. Stupidity & ignorance must also run in the family.
i personally am a deep appreciator of the classic dreading storytelling style vids rather than the full interrogation uploads. it's a great day, thank you
I love his voice and also when he laughs when reading ridiculous statements.
I’m with you…It’s what makes Dreading unique from other channels 😊
I agree. I have to nope out with interrogation videos. Mainly due to my hearing and being unable to discern the conversations. I'm sure other people like it, I'm just unable to get through them.
@@Persephone715honestly dropping entire interrogations is just lazy fucking content, especially when no subtitles are provided.
We appreciate this channel a lot. They put so much effort into everything.
This case is so tragic but her loss made positive movement towards protecting stalking victims. RIP sweet angel
Now all the dumpy broads can rest easy, their 15 stalkers are held at bay
I’ve never heard of Rebecca, this show nor this case, but I’m grateful for the explanation in the introduction by Mr. Dreading. Well done. 💙
If you weren't born around 1989 or if you were very young then you wouldn't have. She was only 22 when she was murdered. The show My sister Sam didn't have a long run either. I heard or her and probably an episode, but unfortunately her murder eclipse her talent. I was 16 when she was murdered. Everything the narrator says is true. He just went in more detail about Rebecca trying to get into show business. He also reported more about her stalker. Such a shame 😢😢❤❤
I've had a stalker.
It was so odd how it escalated.
He was a friend one day and I smiled a certain way that triggered something within him.
Calls, gifts, unannounced pop ups (work, school, home), so many other disturbing things that made me wonder if he would take my life.
The police are of no help in these cases.
I manage to move to another state but still to this day, I am so cautious with my social media activity and making sure my info is secure.
Ya right, ugly chicks crave stalkers
@@justadildeauthe people of canada are suffocating under thick clouds of smoke, mister Trudeau please do something
@@justadildeauand you crave attention. Desperately it seems. 🤷🏽♂️
@@winsalot84 no, I'm pointing out people who DO crave attention
@@justadildeaugrown men who haven't dealt with their mommy issues, crave attention.
Like so many here, I remember Rebecca and her tragic death at a time when so many cases of stalking including the stabbing attack on actress Theresa Saldana showed the true seriousness of stalking and the need for privacy and personal information to remain private. Something which unfortunately people are learning the hard way and importance of today. Thank you to the Subscriber who recommended Rebecca's story be re-told to a new age of viewers and also to you Dreading Channel for so graciously paying tribute to an incredibly talented and sorely missed young woman!
I hadn’t heard of this case! So tragic. Rebecca sounded like a genuinely good person, what a loss.
PLEASE consider covering the Genie feral child case. Absolutely heartbreaking story that not many people have covered on TH-cam, you could be one of the first. Great job as always!
That case will always be one that gives me strong feelings. I've watched a documentary on it, and a pediatric doctor said that he would rather see someone break every bone in a child's body than for them to be left alone and abused in the way that she was. It's haunting.
I'm in favour of this, but only if they stick to directly reporting the facts. So many people have used the Genie case to make wild speculations about the bases of human psychology and while yes, the case is interesting from a scientific standpoint, one singular case cannot and should not be used to make any generalizations.
That story will stay with me forever. I think it does that to everyone who hears about it. Genie deserves so much better than what she’s been through and that’s a serious understatement.
@@LunatheMoonDragon haven't heard of this yet. Any video you recommend? Hopefully one sticking to facts?
This is beyond disturbing. That an absolute stranger can put so much effort and irrational emotion into another and you've no idea this is going on, is frightening. No wonder the very famous have to spend so much on security. Unfortunately, most of us don't have that option.
All because she just wanted to make someone who she thought was a fan of hers happy by writing back a letter to him. It's like the Christina Grimmie situation. She went in for a hug because it was from the goodness of her heart and she lost her life because of it. So damn tragic.
Thank you for the upload.I have severe chronic pain and thosedays are some of the worst.
Virtual hugs to all viewers from Greece 💙
Wishing you all the best with your health 💕
@@kellie5476 🙏💖💖💖💖thank u for ur kindness.May no ones has to deal with that one day.Thank u.....
Sending hugs❤
i too - severe chronic pain 🙏💖✨ prayers
@@GetSicRiCH maybe one day there is a cure cause i am so sick of feeling sick,i hope that u have good days pain free pretty soon🙏
The king is back! Thanks for the blessings boss man🙏
Can you imagine just watching a movie and you get to a sex scene. All of a sudden, some random guy a few rows up starts freaking out and kicking chairs
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I love that your videos include long court case and interrogation footage, but my favorite part of watching your work is hearing your words. Would love to hear more of you on these cases! This was a great one. Thank you and your brother for your hard work and sharing these stories.
Stalker alert ⚠️
dreading, I watched your video on the late and beautiful Christina Grimmie not too long ago.
Christina's story and Rebecca's story haunts celebrities and the public to this day.
Thank you for finally making a video on the late and beautiful Rebecca Schaeffer.
So many lives has been taken by this phenomenon : Christina Grimmie (i still go to her channel and listen to her cover of titanium, i have never listened to anyone that touched me in a way she did with that song) , Bjork very narrowly escaped her stalker fortunately, the influencer whose stalker slit her throat and then took pictures and uploded it (bianca devon I think I am sorry I don’t remember her name, I don’t mean any disrespect). This happens way too often. I understand these individuals are ill but it doesn’t change the fact they killed/hurt someone innocent.
Why is it that there are very few mentally ill women who will do these things?
The vast majority of women is straight up terrified of leaving home to get to work because they know that a man might see them and decide to stalk and murder them. We are taught to minimise ourselves and be hypervigilant, and men are taught to be aggressive, demanding and abrasive.
Then the entire society puts on a Pikachu face when yet another woman is murdered due to the myriad of reasons men come up with. (I'm not only talking about stalking and erotiomania).
Fuck this, teach men to minimise themselves instead and to be less aggressive. The only way to a peaceful society is when men will learn how to be less emotional
I was thinking about Christina throughout the video. Some crazy stuff
Thank you for covering this, dreading. This case has always seriously disturbed me. Rebecca didn't deserve any of this.
I am only 2 mins into this video and can tell it's going to be good. And from the comments I can tell you do the story of her life justice. As you always do. Became a patron last month. So glad I could do I could support the channel.
the worst and most dangerous stalkers are the ones who were previously in a relationship with their victim. Always report any threats and stalking behaviour to law inforcement, family and friends. don't try to handle it alone.
I'm not sure why I play these videos while I'm working because either I won't pay attention to the story or I won't be able to focus on my work, but your voice is so soothing and I appreciate all the work put into these and your respect for the victims and their families.
13:26 the “oh fuk” rly made me laugh and caught me off gaurd fr some reason idk if ive ever heard u cuss like that since watching u
In adittion to the main victim, Rebecca, (who was failed by her security, her shooter's brother & his PI, as well as her killer), I was upset to hear of Samantha Smith, who promoted peace at such a young age but was killed only 3 years later?!? So unjust. Really sad
I think that Samantha’s death was by design.
@@EYE_GOTCHA I've seen a few people say that since I left that comment
The OG incel. Thanks for another interesting one. Hope y'all are well.
Not to be annoying, but I would argue the Son of Sam was the original OG incel. He killed women and a bunch of their boyfriends because he was lonely and romantically frustrated.
What a senseless tragedy. No doubt he is not mentally well, but that doesn't mean he's not guilty. He is a danger to society. I'm so sorry to hear about this. I've heard of the show and her name but was not familiar with either. It sounds like she was looking forward to a new role, but was robbed of the chance to fulfill that dream. 😥
That ending came full circle for me, how something someone created spoke to you. The last poem was beautiful. I have always wished I had wings, to fly and explore. I never knew her or of her work, but I'm glad to know of her now. She was a beautiful person. Thank you for the video, you and your brother do awesome work!
I drop everything when y'all post!
Thank you for doing such a good job at humanizing the victims in these cases.
Thank you dreading bros for another wonderful video. Your videos are always so informative and respectful to the victim.
The most famous case of all was the case of John Lennon. Deranged fan killed him to be famous. I won't mention his name. "He's the man whose name we must never mention." This was from Paul McCartney.
You posted this 3 hours ago & you already have 20k views & thousands of likes, I couldn’t be happier for you!!
This story has always been dear to me. Extraordinarily sad & unfair. It reminds me a little bit of another actress taken way way too soon; Dominique Dunne.
I think it would be wonderful to keep her memory alive by telling her story. Your channel is exceptional, you would give her justice.
Another angle is the “Poltergeist curse” because a disturbing amount of people died between the first & third films. You would be awesome at sussing out all the rumors from the facts on that!
You are the bestest,
The End
I'm glad you're doing more commentary over 5 minutes of commentary and 35 minutes of raw interrogation recording
I actually suggested this case on one of your other videos months ago... Glad you covered it. RIP Rebecca Schaeffer
I think the scariest and most tragic part of all is the fact she didn’t even know she was being stalked, not until he finally showed up at her home that day. She never could’ve seen her death coming, much less even knew she was in danger. That’s frightening
i work from home and constantly have your videos on in the background. i’m always so happy to see a new upload!! love the channel
Good to hear you today.
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I just finished my coffee and was about to get back to doing some work and you dropped this! Now works going to have to wait another 20mins ! 😉
I stop what I'm doing or watching when I get a notification for Dreading.
There's something about the narrator's style and voice that makes me want to immediately watch the latest release.
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It's insane how much this case parallels the plot of the movie Perfect Blue by Satoshi Kon. 😢 Even down to the fact that a sex scene is what turned him into violence, based off of the guy thinking the perfect image they have of the actress is tainted now. It's all I could think about while watching.
The “Oh Fuck” 😂 your interjections get me every time! Please do those more often 🤣
18:19 He owed it to Rebecca to kill himself before he ever tried to hurt her. I don’t believe these kinds of people can be rehabilitated, they’re depraved. I believe, at a certain point, you’re too far gone due to a toxic and harmful upbringing. Stalking with any kind of violent undertones (which is usually the case) should result in the stalker automatically getting 25 years in prison. It is more often than not a precursor to someone being capable of causing serious harm to a person. But that’s just my 2 cents.
I love the way you frame the beginning of each video with a relatable illustration. Puts things into perspective
Dreading feeding us good lately 🙌
I swear I just adore this channel! ❤..Always good content and well edited! Going beyond the stories and showing us things we didn't even know about the cases! ..Another good story as usual 👍😊..
This was such a sad story when it happened. It really was one of those cases that FINALLY made law enforcement consider stalking a crime, though it would take so long even after for this to be taken very seriously, if that makes sense.
Rest in peace to Rebecca Schaefer 😭😭 she is one of my favorite actresses and I liked her in (''my sister sam'') it was a great show.
Love your voice, excited to listen this afternoon. Rip Rebecca, so unfair and awful 😔
Waiting to open up at work and this comes at the perfect time as always, something to look forward to after work!
Cheers.
I cannot believe that the studio did not warn that poor girl about this crazy guy trying to make contact with her….. like give a girl a heads up! 🤷🏼♀️
my old neighbor was my stalker and the last time i saw him he was close to my school trying to get me to talk to him which was like 10 years ago and knowing i was a child the whole time he lived there even now still fcks me up.. ppl don’t realize how much it messes with you and makes living carefree almost impossible
and the man was like in his 30s too
🐂💩 sounds like you have a creepy fantasy
@justadildeau you sound creepy.
I've watched coverage of this case before but I always appreciate the great research and extensive analysis the channel provides. I find that videos always very respectful to the victims and their families and fully encompassing the information of the case more thoroughly than any other reports.
Disturbing how people can knowingly value a fantasy version of their own life above the real flesh and blood life of another.
“Oh Fxxk!”
Always making me laugh during your narration of a terrible tragedy… thanks 😂😢😢😂
As usual, very well done. I remember clearly when this happen. So tragic.
I love love love this channel, I've binged the last few days after just finding you. Have you ever considered a Lucy Letby profile? Just found out about it, and would love dreading's assessment on her case
Was just thinking about this case yesterday thank you for covering this!
I appreciate your channel, crime and psychology. I've always been a bit of a citizen detective, my dad introduced forestic files to me and I was hooked. I don't watch anything that isn't real/true crime because it's a depiction of the facts and not based on the whole picture. I took psychology in school so I understand your mind and the content you put out. You tell the back stories, the facts of the case and leave us to interpret the truth.
Thank you for this story and everything you do!
"OH FUCK!" 😂 The occasional peak into Dreadings personality is a wonderful break in the continuous stream of facts and info. I love it.
Seeing Dreading has a new video out always makes for a better day. Thank you 💟
It really is sad that some famous people deal with stalkers every day, even though their lives are luxurious there still are dangers to being a performer or actress :(
Good one! This one was just long enough for me to get the last of my housework done today! Thanks! ❤
Great job with this story. Very sad case. Loss of a great talent.
You took the words out of my mouth when finding out she replied to his letter. Literally 😮
My aunt was friends with her, thanks for covering this case!
When you said " oh fcuk! " that reply unwittingly sealed her faith and also made his delusion of them being lovers even more believed in his mind....
ITS ALWAYS THE PEOPLE WHO SHINE THE BRIGHTEST AND HAVE NO THOUGHT OF FAN'S WHO ARE LIKE THIS BEEN SADLY TAKING WAY TO EARLY...THE HUMAN MIND IS FACINATING AND ALSO SICKENING AT THE SAME TIME...I LOVE THIS CHANNEL BECAUSE OF YOUR WAY OF COMING ACROSS AS JUST ONE OF US ...WHAT I MEAN IS YOUR NOT STICKING DEPLOMAS, DEGREES ECT, YOUR BROTHER AND YOURSELF DO YOUR RESERCHING AND THEN DELIVER A GREAT PEICE WHICH REALLY TELLS THE VICTIM'S STORYLINE AND OF COURSE THEN WHAT HAPPENS..ALL DONE WITH RESPECT FOR THE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO GRIEVES TODAY AND FOREVER OVER THERE LOSS....
THANKS DREADING FOR YOUR GREAT WORK..
He apparently got stabbed 11 times in prison, unfortunately it doesn't sound like it did much damage. Glad to hear he's having fun though! Hope he gets to repeat the experience someday.
Are you for lynching?
(I'm just curious)
@@oliveryt7168 I'm not for lynching, but tbh I feel there is a surprising lack of self awareness and an infinite sense of grandiosity that men generally have.
Women feel so unworthy of things generally e.g how they don't even apply for jobs if they feel that they won't be the best candidate.
I understand that labeling them as incels further alienates them and exacerbates the problem, but as a woman these men can go to hell. I want them to be cuffed at home or be administered some kind of poison so that I don't have to be hypervigilant when I leave home to get to my job.
@@oliveryt7168don’t be pathetic
I watched this show when I was little and I totally forgot about it 😢 I had no idea what had happened to her this is so sad.
Leaving another dreading video to watch this one sure is a strange feeling
Wow!! She sounds like she was an amazing, adventurous beautiful human!!! This is heartbreaking!!!💔💙🦋💙
this first part of the narration is really relatable to me! uh oh 😰
Such a great video. Thank you for all your work!!
I love when our intrusive thoughts are expressed by your intrisive thoughts. I felt that "Oh, Fuck" deep in my gut. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Too dreading vids in one day. It feels like my bday
One of my favorite youtubers! Thanks for putting out fantastic work ❤
I really enjoy your content, and your narration and story-telling style. Thanks for all the effort you put into your videos. This was a really sad case, and the world was robbed of a truly bright light that day.. :/
Sheesh…the moment Dreading read the letter that Rebecca wrote back, I literally thought to myself “f^ck” at the same time as Dreading…which unfortunately, made me laugh.
It was like we all said it along with him, either internally or externally.
Although this is a rare disorder, a movie about it was made in 2004 with Daniel Craig, Samantha Morton and Rhys Ifans. It was so well done I bought a copy. Rhys Ifans and Daniel Craig are strangers who go through a trauma together and this sets Rhys Ifans' character (Jed Parry) on a mission to win Joe (Daniel Craig) over. He stalks him relentlessly.
The name of it is _Enduring Love._ It's one of the creepiest stalker movies I've ever seen. Moreover, it portrays this dangerous illness really well.
Rebecca’s horrible murder is always talked about but no one ever talked about who she was like Dreading did. I didn’t know she wrote poetry. It was good poetry at that. Thanks so much for this tribute to her. It was incredibly well done and compassionate.
So sad..I remember this show from second grade very early in my life. ❤ Now that I am older and found out her life was taken it is heartbreaking and sad. I remember the show being good. God rest her soul.
That final poem gave me chills. What a tragedy