@@marcusantoniusrapto Can you explain what he means by this comment? As a GenX I don't understand what benefits of adulthood they think they are missing. Genuinely curious.
@@talk2genx For some people, they were sold that adulthood has responsibilities, but at least working a job meant having enough money to buy nice things. Now people work jobs to barely afford rent, to have some crappy car that just barely drives to work, and hardly any hobbies that aren't on a computer.
As an early Adult Zoomer who struggles with Autism, I knew I would have challenges in life. I just didn’t think I would be so lonely and that I wouldn’t exist to most people.
For a man, you generally don't exist to anyone unless you are useful to them. This is not a generational thing. You need to build status. You'll get the sort of behavior you desire when people perceive you as someone. Be patient. Built. It will come. It's that predictable.
@@marcusantoniusraptosorry to tell you this, but its 100% a generational issue. Its just also universal. To some degree all men have had to build status and become attractive, but only gen-z has a hyper emphasis on looks and superficiality, motivated by social media and instant gratification. Take that even further by there being no need for anyone to meet anyone else because their social needs are met online. Not even millenials had to deal with this level of degeneration in our social lives. Gen-z is genuinely 100x lonelier than any previous generation. Especially the men for the reasons listed.
I think gen z will be another generation that reduces the standard number of working hours from 40 to 32, or something like that. We want to have lives out of work, hobbies, and take more vacation time to actually spend our adult money doing something meaningful and fulfilling
I’m with you. I’m no proponent of the 9-5 nonsense. It’s a dated model based on the old factory system. But, it’s not likely to change ant time soon; hence acclimation is still needed unless you plan on running your own business.
how do you think gen z is going to accomplish that feat? because of the rising cost of living, it's a lot more likely that gen Z (along with everybody else), ends up working *more* hours, not less. I'm an elder millennial (38), and have basically never had enough money for *anything* except paying the bills, and going to work.
18:40 I wonder if his feelings are kind of what the last emperor of China felt like, going from having his every whim taken care of and living in paradise...to being pulled from that paradise and pushed into the real world as a hated object & political pawn. I think he even extra lucked out, & the dowager empress cixi died.. so she was unable to control him, and make his life miserable, his early life? was good.. But I think that kind of waking up to reality ,& mourning your childhood is kind of similar to the experience of Puyi
God I feel like I need to talk to someone like you.. I had tried therapy back in middle school or was it high school, can't quite remember, I think it's early high school maybe or middle school I'll have to ask my mom the next time we talk, but that therapist was trying to make me feel like my parents had parentified me, and she was trying to say that my childhood was bad or abusive or all sorts of things. But I have such blindness when it comes to myself.. And I just don't trust therapist anymore. Nice video I'll have to check out your other content
You're story with Agnes was very insightful. I had to figure a lot of things out on my own over the past few years because the guidance I got from older generations was outdated, didn't respect the unique severity of my generation's conditions, and caused great harm to me when followed. I think a lack of wisdom and proper mentorship from authority figures was my main issue as someone who is Gen Z. I do not experience a longing for childhood because mine was filled with a lot of suffering. My life drastically improved once I totally rejected the frame set for me by others, then trusted the lego blocks I found to be significant and the way in which I put them together. I feel better than ever now and wouldn't want to go back.
Ya. The world changed so rapidly so quickly that older people just did not keep up for the most part. Most of their life advice was dated as soon as social media and smart phones appeared. It makes sense that you are glad to be done with childhood if it sucked for you. The good news is that you're not going to need as much adaptation to the harshness of the real world as you already had been accustomed to it previously. A lot of older people have a similar tale. Being beaten was a very common experience. It's not even looked at as a bad thing by Gen-x because it was so common. It was just a part of childhood.
Plus all of the crazy things that young people used to do, because of cell phones and CCTV, this generation didn't do any of it, and that's not even counting the helicopter parenting. They can't even go to the club and let loose dancing, because they know the clip will get Uploaded online if they dance funny
The video title literally nailed how I feel sometimes. In the old days I felt like people were nostalgic about their early adulthood years as their best time. For me the happiest I’ve even been was my childhood. I’m the oldest cohort of Gen Z having been born in 1997.
Honestly, I don't see a lot of nostalgia among my middle aged peers. Like at all. No one pines for the past. We do talk about it and remenis, but not try to recreate.
Ya know this video comes at a good time for me. I was somewhat of a sheltered kid. I didn't go out in high school, I was very anxious, nervous, socially awkward. I had hoped that college would be some magical change, but it wasn't. Your story at Harveys struck with me because up to that point, I didn't have to make many of my own decisions. All I had to do was go to school, come home, play games or do homework. No real obligations. On the next side, I followed a similar pattern in college. I was terrified of people, I didn't know how to interact with other people, I withdrew. I went to a few parties, I met a few people, but I didn't have any friends and I wouldn't describe my college years as fun in any way. It merely was something that happened. Then Covid happened, and I ended up stuck in a place where my youth was basically wasted further. Nowadays I bounce from town to town for work, trying to find a job that pays decent, in a place where I can live, meet a girl, have that life I wanted. Those experiences I wanted. Maybe I can go to university, make up for lost time. But, I'm older now. I'm 27. And while I still feel young inside, do I fit in? Will I go and try to make up for what I missed out on and just make new mistakes? I think you said it right when you said that guy in the video is mourning his old life, but that he can't go back. He's a different person now, he would experience it differently. I remember being 24-25 and going to the bar with my younger brother, and I hated it, just as I had years prior in college. The most fun I had was hanging out with friends, and I didn't need the bar for that. All I needed the bar for was to play pool. To put it simply, I've died and all that's left is who I am today. I can't have those nights playing halo with my friends again. I can't have those chances at college again. I can't have those bar experiences I was supposed to have. I can't have any of it. Who I was and who I wanted to be is dead. But, on the bright side, I can have different experiences that old me couldn't have, in a sense. It still burns that I missed out though. This is simultaneously very heartening and extremely depressing. If I could go back I'd tell my 8 year old self to consider a job, and to be more active. And I'll be making all the efforts I can to raise my kids, should I have any, better and more rounded than I was.
This reminded me about a documentary about some Africans that won a place to migrate to America. It was a program the US government provided to give a select few of people to live, work, and educate themselves in the US. The documentary followed the process of when they were selected in their home countries. The few that were selected mentioned what they wanted to do when they get there. I remember one of the men, that was selected, was that he wanted to be fat like an American. I chuckled at that response, but when you look at him, he had the body of a well defined model. He was not skinny, had muscle definition, but something that most men in the US would only dream of. He was poor as the documentary showed his family living conditions, but he did not starve from what I saw and his house was a straw hut living with his family. The family was excited because that meant he would send money over to them in the coming years. Getting that opportunity was like winning the lottery for them. When this group came to the US, they were given an apartment, showed them how to buy what they needed at the grocery store, and gave them the money to support themselves. I liked to see their reactions at all of the food they saw in the store. Some worked, some went to college, and I think one opened a business. As far as they were concerned they were living the dream. They made it! Now, I am not sure how long they stayed in the US, but one of the men had an incident. One of them reported one of their group missing. It turned out that this one missing individual went crazy. Police found him ranting in his mother tongue and causing people a disturbance. When they finally got him back from the police station he was despondent and depressed. He finally spoke out that he missed his home country. He could not understand how Americans could live the way they live. He could not understand how one can just work all day come back home and do it all over again. He could not take the loneliness and wanted to go back to the campfire surrounded by his family and friends. One may want to blame this on anxiety, because that is what it is. I had this same feeling wanting to go back home because I was home sick when I was in my first year in college. Because it is a feeling with the environment you knew gave you some semblance of belonging. This is also why when soldiers come back from war, they mention that wanted to go back to war. It was not they wanted to go back to war, it was the comradery they developed when they were at war. They could handle any bad because they have a small group of people that had their back. People they trusted and talk issues with surrounded by people they know and love. When they come back they all suddenly have depression and wish they could go back. It turns out we, as Americans, live a very tough and lonely life. We just do not realize it until we are thrusted into the real world, and when you do, you get acclimated to the routine of the real world.
The US is an amazing place for business. People are commerce minded. They treat almost everything transactionally. This mentality makes it really easy to do business compared to places like Poland. In Poland if you attempt anything commerce based people immediately assume you are trying to scam them. It does not matter what te business is. You could be trying to sell raw coffee to a coffee shop. People will view you with intense suspicion. However, this transactional mentality does not work in the social realm. Socializing works predominantly on an altruistic mindset. Hence the US is pretty garbage for human relations. Poland is much better for that because altruism is well received and a very positive reputation of you spreads really quick which makes you socially desirable. So ya. It's a trade off.
I find it extremely difficult to get along with others my own age (27) because it feels like 90% of them never mentally matured past grade school. Almost everyone that I meet is unbearably shallow, petty, immature, impulsive, arrogant, and selfish. Everyone's growing older but very, very few are growing up. Many of gen Z still are mentally children.
Some are surely a lost cause. Those will eventually be punished by age and will grow resentful. Then they will become politically dangerous. There is merit in trying to reach those that are not that far gone though. If for no other reason then because they will be around a long time and will impact every facet of society.
@@marcusantoniusrapto It would be grand if you make a vid about that particular topic sir. I mean, it seems like there is a peculiar personal resentment that goes hand in hand with radical politics IMO. Something raw, direct and concrete that can't be adequately explained by academic rationalizations/constructs like biopolitics, bio-leninism, etc.
Appreciate your thoughts as always, I think it's mostly because of limited economic and social mobility compared to other gens and also the fact that social media makes everyone aware of how good others have it by rubbing it in their faces (which you touched upon in your vid). Btw, why does your place look like an Eastern European rural house? Makes me think of my grandparents' home lmao.
I'm a Millennial (not Gen Z myself, but hear me out) but I find myself completely alienated by most people I interact with anywhere over 40 years old. I keep getting bombarded with questions like "Do you play basketball?" or "Do you want to go watch the Football/Super bowl game with me?" or "Do you want to go to the bar?" or "What kind of car do you drive?" or "Where do you work?" and every time I just give these people confused looks, like I'm figuratively responding with "Why the fuck do you care?". I'm a nerd to my core. Sci-Fi, Mecha, Warhammer 40K, science in general, that sort of thing. I'd much rather play F-Zero, Mario Kart or any video game than watch *any* sports game on TV. I've never really been into sports, I find modern cars boring (old cars are cool though), I don't care what kind of booze you drink and I don't really care where you work. It's none of my business but half the random people I run into seem to treat knowhow about where I work and aforementioned things like it's as important as knowhow on the Holy Grail. My dad was an alcoholic and I don't drink alcohol (especially not at a bar) partially because of his irresponsibility. I don't drink alcohol. Period. While I find it frustrating to a degree I also just flat out don't understand. Why do they care? It's none of their business.
These are establishing questions. Older generations typically defined their identity by their job. So, someone did not work as a doctor - instead, they ARE a doctor. They need to know how to tailor their behavior to correctly interact with you. Older people tend to behave differently towards you based on what you are. As such they need that positioning data about you first. This also applies to all the sports related stuff. It's a mission to collect basic data on the other person to figure out the subjects to that can be talked about as oppose to pure small talk. It's a way of moving the bonding process forward. It's not so much like these people have a vested concern in getting to know you but more to figure out what sort of creature they are interacting with. Kinda like if someone were to start talking about a video game you never heard of. You would ask what genre it is as an establishing question so you generally know what is being talked about.
19 bout to be 20 in 2 days. My faith in Jesus Christ and believing in him for salvation is the only thing keeping me from taking my own I must say. Everyday I wake up it’s with a deep feeling of agony and despair, everything is utterly depressing even if I were to change my perspective. That shift in perspective can only last so long before it fades. Community is basically non existent, being an adult in arguably the worst time in history, the economy does not seem to get any better, there’s more and more stories coming out from generation z claiming they are not getting jobs they pursued school for, people are now chronically online. Empathy is close to being decimated in today’s society. My faith is the only thing that makes it bearable. I believe GOD made us to be social beings, not to dwell in independence. That is why I related to the part when you had a conversation with that girl and it encouraged her to make decisions on her reality. I believe in the importance of socializing. Laughing, talking, physical admirations towards one another can really shift the life a human being and make this burdensome life somewhat bearable. I 1000% understand the reasoning behind the state of generation z. Our future seems dim. This ain’t a message of hope, but my thoughts on the current state of humanity. Great video by the way.
I think this young man may be a good example of a Gen Z normie and much of your insight may be spot on. I implore you to look at another example: Gerbert's Void. That young man is exceptionally self aware and quite articulate.
I've seen a couple of his videos. I remember thinking as you; this guy is self aware. Thanks for the reminded of him though, I should see what he's been up to video wise.
That's just it. Fond memories mean you had good things in your life. If you are positive, you will also believe you are capable of generating more. So there is no big desire to go back but to continue on.
I think you focus on the wrong points, I think the issue he’s getting at is his life didn’t build to anything. His childhood may have been good by material standards but was lacking in any fundamental stepping stones that gens prior had. And on top of that he seems to be working in a highly demanding and skilled field but still has no time. This is the true lie that older generations have perpetuated that skill leads to a better life not more stress. For generations z you could be a rocket scientist brain surgeon cancer curing mega lawyer but none of it is enough for you to have the free time to just be. America through greed has fallen, and they are left to pick up the pieces.
@@marcusantoniusrapto We didn't really get a choice but to embrace it. Why? Because we were sold a lie, just like college ended up being a lie. I guess I was different in that I realized I'd never make it on my own despite my best efforts since everything was always priced just out of reach but that's a conversation I can have later since I'm currently in the middle of something.
Hey, Marcus, Marcus here. To address the title, before I was ANY of your video: I find the title ludicrous. Gen Z are childish into adulthood. They can't mourn the childhood they're still living in. Perhaps they actually mourn not being taught to be a real human, eh? I think so. Now, I will 'push play'. Good luck, Marcus.
It wasn't meant to be this way. Our lives were supposed to improve since our grandparent's time but there was a metric ton of incentive to ensure that we'd be destitute. What incentive is that? Lots and lots of money for business owners and the ruling class.
I was told life was going to be well; work hard, go to college, and you'll be set! Boy was I lied too. I'd be happier if I wasn't lead fuckin astray told to get any bachelor's and I'd have gainful employment
Half of 20-30 year olds have depression or anxiety. Capitalism sucks the life and soul out of you. The hollowness is social saying we dont care about you. Then your boss yells at you. Life.
No one can promise an improved life with a straight pace. Boomers may have had it good but the generation prior had world War 2. The one before them. Had the great depression. Post-world War 2 prosperity was an abbaration.
We are not. It's a phase of life that passed and we have no desire to go back to it. We do, however, revive artefacts from the past to relive emotions from those times. But we do not pine to go back. We reminisce.
We get none of the benefits of adulthood that previous gens had, but still get all of the responsibility
This is a good comment. I think I'll make a video on it because I have a lot of thoughts on this subject. Thanks for bringing this up.
This is basically the best way to sum it up
@@marcusantoniusrapto Can you explain what he means by this comment? As a GenX I don't understand what benefits of adulthood they think they are missing. Genuinely curious.
@@talk2genx For some people, they were sold that adulthood has responsibilities, but at least working a job meant having enough money to buy nice things.
Now people work jobs to barely afford rent, to have some crappy car that just barely drives to work, and hardly any hobbies that aren't on a computer.
@@skylinefever Thank you. Okay, so the benefits of adulthood mentioned are primarily economic.
As an early Adult Zoomer who struggles with Autism, I knew I would have challenges in life. I just didn’t think I would be so lonely and that I wouldn’t exist to most people.
For a man, you generally don't exist to anyone unless you are useful to them. This is not a generational thing. You need to build status. You'll get the sort of behavior you desire when people perceive you as someone. Be patient. Built. It will come. It's that predictable.
@@marcusantoniusraptosorry to tell you this, but its 100% a generational issue. Its just also universal.
To some degree all men have had to build status and become attractive, but only gen-z has a hyper emphasis on looks and superficiality, motivated by social media and instant gratification.
Take that even further by there being no need for anyone to meet anyone else because their social needs are met online. Not even millenials had to deal with this level of degeneration in our social lives.
Gen-z is genuinely 100x lonelier than any previous generation.
Especially the men for the reasons listed.
I think gen z will be another generation that reduces the standard number of working hours from 40 to 32, or something like that. We want to have lives out of work, hobbies, and take more vacation time to actually spend our adult money doing something meaningful and fulfilling
I’m with you. I’m no proponent of the 9-5 nonsense. It’s a dated model based on the old factory system. But, it’s not likely to change ant time soon; hence acclimation is still needed unless you plan on running your own business.
how do you think gen z is going to accomplish that feat? because of the rising cost of living, it's a lot more likely that gen Z (along with everybody else), ends up working *more* hours, not less.
I'm an elder millennial (38), and have basically never had enough money for *anything* except paying the bills, and going to work.
18:40 I wonder if his feelings are kind of what the last emperor of China felt like, going from having his every whim taken care of and living in paradise...to being pulled from that paradise and pushed into the real world as a hated object & political pawn.
I think he even extra lucked out, & the dowager empress cixi died.. so she was unable to control him, and make his life miserable, his early life? was good..
But I think that kind of waking up to reality ,& mourning your childhood is kind of similar to the experience of Puyi
God I feel like I need to talk to someone like you..
I had tried therapy back in middle school or was it high school, can't quite remember, I think it's early high school maybe or middle school I'll have to ask my mom the next time we talk, but that therapist was trying to make me feel like my parents had parentified me, and she was trying to say that my childhood was bad or abusive or all sorts of things.
But I have such blindness when it comes to myself.. And I just don't trust therapist anymore.
Nice video I'll have to check out your other content
Oh damn only 4 videos I'll have to check back later
You're story with Agnes was very insightful. I had to figure a lot of things out on my own over the past few years because the guidance I got from older generations was outdated, didn't respect the unique severity of my generation's conditions, and caused great harm to me when followed. I think a lack of wisdom and proper mentorship from authority figures was my main issue as someone who is Gen Z. I do not experience a longing for childhood because mine was filled with a lot of suffering. My life drastically improved once I totally rejected the frame set for me by others, then trusted the lego blocks I found to be significant and the way in which I put them together. I feel better than ever now and wouldn't want to go back.
Ya. The world changed so rapidly so quickly that older people just did not keep up for the most part. Most of their life advice was dated as soon as social media and smart phones appeared.
It makes sense that you are glad to be done with childhood if it sucked for you. The good news is that you're not going to need as much adaptation to the harshness of the real world as you already had been accustomed to it previously.
A lot of older people have a similar tale. Being beaten was a very common experience. It's not even looked at as a bad thing by Gen-x because it was so common. It was just a part of childhood.
Plus all of the crazy things that young people used to do, because of cell phones and CCTV, this generation didn't do any of it, and that's not even counting the helicopter parenting. They can't even go to the club and let loose dancing, because they know the clip will get Uploaded online if they dance funny
The video title literally nailed how I feel sometimes. In the old days I felt like people were nostalgic about their early adulthood years as their best time. For me the happiest I’ve even been was my childhood. I’m the oldest cohort of Gen Z having been born in 1997.
Honestly, I don't see a lot of nostalgia among my middle aged peers. Like at all. No one pines for the past. We do talk about it and remenis, but not try to recreate.
Ya know this video comes at a good time for me. I was somewhat of a sheltered kid. I didn't go out in high school, I was very anxious, nervous, socially awkward. I had hoped that college would be some magical change, but it wasn't. Your story at Harveys struck with me because up to that point, I didn't have to make many of my own decisions. All I had to do was go to school, come home, play games or do homework. No real obligations.
On the next side, I followed a similar pattern in college. I was terrified of people, I didn't know how to interact with other people, I withdrew. I went to a few parties, I met a few people, but I didn't have any friends and I wouldn't describe my college years as fun in any way. It merely was something that happened. Then Covid happened, and I ended up stuck in a place where my youth was basically wasted further. Nowadays I bounce from town to town for work, trying to find a job that pays decent, in a place where I can live, meet a girl, have that life I wanted. Those experiences I wanted. Maybe I can go to university, make up for lost time.
But, I'm older now. I'm 27. And while I still feel young inside, do I fit in? Will I go and try to make up for what I missed out on and just make new mistakes? I think you said it right when you said that guy in the video is mourning his old life, but that he can't go back. He's a different person now, he would experience it differently. I remember being 24-25 and going to the bar with my younger brother, and I hated it, just as I had years prior in college. The most fun I had was hanging out with friends, and I didn't need the bar for that. All I needed the bar for was to play pool.
To put it simply, I've died and all that's left is who I am today. I can't have those nights playing halo with my friends again. I can't have those chances at college again. I can't have those bar experiences I was supposed to have. I can't have any of it. Who I was and who I wanted to be is dead. But, on the bright side, I can have different experiences that old me couldn't have, in a sense. It still burns that I missed out though.
This is simultaneously very heartening and extremely depressing. If I could go back I'd tell my 8 year old self to consider a job, and to be more active. And I'll be making all the efforts I can to raise my kids, should I have any, better and more rounded than I was.
That closing, lol 'Good luck' Emotional Damage....;p
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I think the classic TH-cam video ending of "Buy my course" is a little cliche now.
This reminded me about a documentary about some Africans that won a place to migrate to America. It was a program the US government provided to give a select few of people to live, work, and educate themselves in the US. The documentary followed the process of when they were selected in their home countries. The few that were selected mentioned what they wanted to do when they get there. I remember one of the men, that was selected, was that he wanted to be fat like an American. I chuckled at that response, but when you look at him, he had the body of a well defined model. He was not skinny, had muscle definition, but something that most men in the US would only dream of. He was poor as the documentary showed his family living conditions, but he did not starve from what I saw and his house was a straw hut living with his family. The family was excited because that meant he would send money over to them in the coming years. Getting that opportunity was like winning the lottery for them.
When this group came to the US, they were given an apartment, showed them how to buy what they needed at the grocery store, and gave them the money to support themselves. I liked to see their reactions at all of the food they saw in the store. Some worked, some went to college, and I think one opened a business. As far as they were concerned they were living the dream. They made it!
Now, I am not sure how long they stayed in the US, but one of the men had an incident. One of them reported one of their group missing. It turned out that this one missing individual went crazy. Police found him ranting in his mother tongue and causing people a disturbance. When they finally got him back from the police station he was despondent and depressed. He finally spoke out that he missed his home country. He could not understand how Americans could live the way they live. He could not understand how one can just work all day come back home and do it all over again. He could not take the loneliness and wanted to go back to the campfire surrounded by his family and friends. One may want to blame this on anxiety, because that is what it is. I had this same feeling wanting to go back home because I was home sick when I was in my first year in college. Because it is a feeling with the environment you knew gave you some semblance of belonging.
This is also why when soldiers come back from war, they mention that wanted to go back to war. It was not they wanted to go back to war, it was the comradery they developed when they were at war. They could handle any bad because they have a small group of people that had their back. People they trusted and talk issues with surrounded by people they know and love. When they come back they all suddenly have depression and wish they could go back.
It turns out we, as Americans, live a very tough and lonely life. We just do not realize it until we are thrusted into the real world, and when you do, you get acclimated to the routine of the real world.
The US is an amazing place for business. People are commerce minded. They treat almost everything transactionally.
This mentality makes it really easy to do business compared to places like Poland.
In Poland if you attempt anything commerce based people immediately assume you are trying to scam them. It does not matter what te business is. You could be trying to sell raw coffee to a coffee shop. People will view you with intense suspicion.
However, this transactional mentality does not work in the social realm. Socializing works predominantly on an altruistic mindset. Hence the US is pretty garbage for human relations.
Poland is much better for that because altruism is well received and a very positive reputation of you spreads really quick which makes you socially desirable.
So ya. It's a trade off.
Only now...do the ipad kids realize they should have gone and touched grass all those years ago...
There is going to be a solid decade of adjusting for the youth before they are purged of the trauma of the past.
I pad kids are about 10 maybe 12 max right now any genz didn’t get smart tech till we were in late middle school
I find it extremely difficult to get along with others my own age (27) because it feels like 90% of them never mentally matured past grade school. Almost everyone that I meet is unbearably shallow, petty, immature, impulsive, arrogant, and selfish. Everyone's growing older but very, very few are growing up. Many of gen Z still are mentally children.
Some are surely a lost cause. Those will eventually be punished by age and will grow resentful. Then they will become politically dangerous.
There is merit in trying to reach those that are not that far gone though. If for no other reason then because they will be around a long time and will impact every facet of society.
We are the same man my guy. Very few ppl still around. Same age as well oddly
@@marcusantoniusrapto It would be grand if you make a vid about that particular topic sir.
I mean, it seems like there is a peculiar personal resentment that goes hand in hand with radical politics IMO.
Something raw, direct and concrete that can't be adequately explained by academic rationalizations/constructs like biopolitics, bio-leninism, etc.
Appreciate your thoughts as always, I think it's mostly because of limited economic and social mobility compared to other gens and also the fact that social media makes everyone aware of how good others have it by rubbing it in their faces (which you touched upon in your vid). Btw, why does your place look like an Eastern European rural house? Makes me think of my grandparents' home lmao.
When in Rome, do as the Romans.
"it's all in your head bro". Yeah, nah dude. It's a little more than that.
My parents tell me this they pisces and libra worst people
I'm a Millennial (not Gen Z myself, but hear me out) but I find myself completely alienated by most people I interact with anywhere over 40 years old.
I keep getting bombarded with questions like "Do you play basketball?" or "Do you want to go watch the Football/Super bowl game with me?" or "Do you want to go to the bar?" or "What kind of car do you drive?" or "Where do you work?" and every time I just give these people confused looks, like I'm figuratively responding with "Why the fuck do you care?".
I'm a nerd to my core. Sci-Fi, Mecha, Warhammer 40K, science in general, that sort of thing. I'd much rather play F-Zero, Mario Kart or any video game than watch *any* sports game on TV.
I've never really been into sports, I find modern cars boring (old cars are cool though), I don't care what kind of booze you drink and I don't really care where you work. It's none of my business but half the random people I run into seem to treat knowhow about where I work and aforementioned things like it's as important as knowhow on the Holy Grail.
My dad was an alcoholic and I don't drink alcohol (especially not at a bar) partially because of his irresponsibility. I don't drink alcohol. Period.
While I find it frustrating to a degree I also just flat out don't understand. Why do they care? It's none of their business.
These are establishing questions. Older generations typically defined their identity by their job.
So, someone did not work as a doctor - instead, they ARE a doctor. They need to know how to tailor their behavior to correctly interact with you. Older people tend to behave differently towards you based on what you are. As such they need that positioning data about you first.
This also applies to all the sports related stuff. It's a mission to collect basic data on the other person to figure out the subjects to that can be talked about as oppose to pure small talk. It's a way of moving the bonding process forward.
It's not so much like these people have a vested concern in getting to know you but more to figure out what sort of creature they are interacting with.
Kinda like if someone were to start talking about a video game you never heard of. You would ask what genre it is as an establishing question so you generally know what is being talked about.
Great show!! Thank you!!
19 bout to be 20 in 2 days. My faith in Jesus Christ and believing in him for salvation is the only thing keeping me from taking my own I must say.
Everyday I wake up it’s with a deep feeling of agony and despair, everything is utterly depressing even if I were to change my perspective. That shift in perspective can only last so long before it fades. Community is basically non existent, being an adult in arguably the worst time in history, the economy does not seem to get any better, there’s more and more stories coming out from generation z claiming they are not getting jobs they pursued school for, people are now chronically online.
Empathy is close to being decimated in today’s society. My faith is the only thing that makes it bearable. I believe GOD made us to be social beings, not to dwell in independence.
That is why I related to the part when you had a conversation with that girl and it encouraged her to make decisions on her reality. I believe in the importance of socializing. Laughing, talking, physical admirations towards one another can really shift the life a human being and make this burdensome life somewhat bearable.
I 1000% understand the reasoning behind the state of generation z. Our future seems dim. This ain’t a message of hope, but my thoughts on the current state of humanity.
Great video by the way.
I think this young man may be a good example of a Gen Z normie and much of your insight may be spot on. I implore you to look at another example: Gerbert's Void. That young man is exceptionally self aware and quite articulate.
I've seen a couple of his videos. I remember thinking as you; this guy is self aware. Thanks for the reminded of him though, I should see what he's been up to video wise.
The real world can be a bitch most of the time, but the past memories keep you going for betterment, if as well as greatness or more great moments.
That's just it. Fond memories mean you had good things in your life. If you are positive, you will also believe you are capable of generating more. So there is no big desire to go back but to continue on.
Couldn't make it through. Too much nothing. Thanks anyways, Marcus.
1:11 in, and it seems you're Mark Anthony, and I'm Marcus Aurelius. This means I will likely not be watching the video in its entirety. We shall see.
Nah its alright
choice paralysis
I think it's even worse in this situation, the kid never learned how to make a decision in the first place
I think you focus on the wrong points, I think the issue he’s getting at is his life didn’t build to anything. His childhood may have been good by material standards but was lacking in any fundamental stepping stones that gens prior had. And on top of that he seems to be working in a highly demanding and skilled field but still has no time. This is the true lie that older generations have perpetuated that skill leads to a better life not more stress. For generations z you could be a rocket scientist brain surgeon cancer curing mega lawyer but none of it is enough for you to have the free time to just be. America through greed has fallen, and they are left to pick up the pieces.
Millennials first saw the brunt of this before you. And we got the full blame for it too.
Ya. The millenials embodied the live to work mentality. Hussle culture almost seems like an overcompensating for being told you're lazy all your life.
@@marcusantoniusrapto We didn't really get a choice but to embrace it. Why? Because we were sold a lie, just like college ended up being a lie. I guess I was different in that I realized I'd never make it on my own despite my best efforts since everything was always priced just out of reach but that's a conversation I can have later since I'm currently in the middle of something.
Sounds like executive dysfunction.
Can such a condition grip a whole generation?
@@marcusantoniusrapto Big pharma says yes
Hey, Marcus, Marcus here.
To address the title, before I was ANY of your video:
I find the title ludicrous. Gen Z are childish into adulthood. They can't mourn the childhood they're still living in. Perhaps they actually mourn not being taught to be a real human, eh? I think so.
Now, I will 'push play'. Good luck, Marcus.
I was an aviation tech before I became a bum 🤨
This life suggs, waiting for the revolution I don't see coming.
Maybe if we stopped hearing about how shitty and hard adult life is, maybe we wouldn't be so depressed about growing up!
It wasn't meant to be this way. Our lives were supposed to improve since our grandparent's time but there was a metric ton of incentive to ensure that we'd be destitute. What incentive is that? Lots and lots of money for business owners and the ruling class.
If only it was that simple
I was told life was going to be well; work hard, go to college, and you'll be set! Boy was I lied too. I'd be happier if I wasn't lead fuckin astray told to get any bachelor's and I'd have gainful employment
Half of 20-30 year olds have depression or anxiety. Capitalism sucks the life and soul out of you. The hollowness is social saying we dont care about you. Then your boss yells at you. Life.
No one can promise an improved life with a straight pace. Boomers may have had it good but the generation prior had world War 2. The one before them. Had the great depression.
Post-world War 2 prosperity was an abbaration.
Kinda lost me at the part where you claimed older generations aren’t nostalgic for their childhood 🤔
We are not. It's a phase of life that passed and we have no desire to go back to it.
We do, however, revive artefacts from the past to relive emotions from those times. But we do not pine to go back. We reminisce.
a song: Swans - Lunacy