The value of these will not drop like a stone I guarantee you. The cult following just won’t allow it. As for the efficiency you could easily improve on that once you get used to the vehicle. I’ve owned an ID.3 & ID.4 in winter and I can get 2.9 on a bad day with heaters on at 0 degrees. I would add tough some people will want to thrash it from the lights and drive at 80mph with the AC set to 25 degrees and of course efficient would be massively hit.
Thanks for the comment. Well only time will tell about the values. What do you own now? 2.9 is pretty good, i'll have to find out what my dad gets from his ID3 1st edition. We got 3.4 miles per kwh in our tesla model 3 LR in -3 to 4 degrees on at journey to london 3 adults 2 children with the heaters on down the M1. Its a 69 plate with 68k on the clock.
@@chargeheadsuk still have my ID.4 and my wife now owns an MG4 Trophy. If you compare efficiency with the likes of a Model 3 or original Ioniq you’ll never match them for efficiency. But my wife’s ID.3 Pro Performance was averaging 3.6 miles per kWh over the 2 years she owned the car. My ID.4 I’ve only had since early December 2022. So I know the efficiency will increase in the summer. But for now I’m averaging 2.9 miles pkWh. I’d expect to see 3.4-3.6 in the summer.
I test drove the cargo which is 200kg lighter than the MPV version, unloaded and compared to my T6 which is mapped to 183bhp/320lbft and loaded at a guess 250/300kg. The buzz was lightening fast. A good 5 seconds quicker to 60. Still debating whether to order one before the £5k grant ends or wait if they do a dual motor version of the cargo.
Naturally charging infrastructure is crucial, but you should evaluate the charging speed as well, not only the range of the car. You get roughly another 100km of range in around 15min of charging ( I bet it takes longer for 4 person family with kids to have toilet brake and grab some coffee from the gas station than getting another 100km of range for this car),many other cars charge slower even they have larger battery or better efficiency and the end result is equal in long range driving. Everything is dependent on charging infrastructure. In Scandinavia range of Id buzz should not be a deal brake and we have some winter temperatures here. So far everything Chinese have been tested in Finnish winter fails dramatically. Reality is different from the specs on the paper.
For a family holiday car that's not enough range for me. Coming back from a week away, Sunday evening whej you jist want to get home, with the family in the car I don't want to be having to nurse it or charge in the motorway services for 30minutes.
Quite a decent honest review. Do you use cruise control much? I find it way more efficient for longer journeys. Plus the adaptive regen is really good!
Thanks for your feedback. I love cruise, adaptive, and most of all "self drive" on the tesla. Annoyingly my camper has nothing but it does have lane assist 🤣
After waiting for this vehicle for at least 10 years, it’s such a disappointment the overall package is so poor. Using the subpar MEB platform the Buzz was doomed to failure from an engineering standpoint before it was even off the drawing board. The range, efficiency and towing capacity just doesn’t cut the mustard for families. The packaging and price is a joke as is the GUI and software. Tesla will soon bring out a van after their Cybertruck, speaking of cult status the Cybertruck has somehow managed to attain this before it’s been birthed!? Work that out. The Cyber Van will have the practical ability that the Buzz simply can’t match and will be a lot more affordable. This history and the following are definitely there, have VW squandered the opportunity? The scene tax for this is colossal! Sadly none of the VW range have been the compelling and practical products that we crave from VW of old. The MG4 & new BYD Atto 3 are here and stealing VW’s lunch, while the recent price reduction in the Tesla range provides VW with the metaphorical wedgy coup degras to the VW ID 3 & ID 4 range. Only the lobotomised and true die hard vw fans will pay more for less of everything from the EV side of VW’s garage when compared to ANY rival. Oh NIO have yet to land on these shores, good luck VW, I think your going to need it…….
Poor range and cant tow over 1000kg! What a letdown.. and missed opportunity. We were going to swap from our Tesla to a Buzz but decided not to when we worked out the cost to 'fuel' and half the range!! No thanks VW.. we will pass.
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More like this please - great balanced review.
Thanks Shaun 👍
The value of these will not drop like a stone I guarantee you. The cult following just won’t allow it. As for the efficiency you could easily improve on that once you get used to the vehicle. I’ve owned an ID.3 & ID.4 in winter and I can get 2.9 on a bad day with heaters on at 0 degrees. I would add tough some people will want to thrash it from the lights and drive at 80mph with the AC set to 25 degrees and of course efficient would be massively hit.
Thanks for the comment. Well only time will tell about the values. What do you own now? 2.9 is pretty good, i'll have to find out what my dad gets from his ID3 1st edition. We got 3.4 miles per kwh in our tesla model 3 LR in -3 to 4 degrees on at journey to london 3 adults 2 children with the heaters on down the M1. Its a 69 plate with 68k on the clock.
@@chargeheadsuk still have my ID.4 and my wife now owns an MG4 Trophy. If you compare efficiency with the likes of a Model 3 or original Ioniq you’ll never match them for efficiency. But my wife’s ID.3 Pro Performance was averaging 3.6 miles per kWh over the 2 years she owned the car. My ID.4 I’ve only had since early December 2022. So I know the efficiency will increase in the summer. But for now I’m averaging 2.9 miles pkWh. I’d expect to see 3.4-3.6 in the summer.
I test drove the cargo which is 200kg lighter than the MPV version, unloaded and compared to my T6 which is mapped to 183bhp/320lbft and loaded at a guess 250/300kg. The buzz was lightening fast. A good 5 seconds quicker to 60. Still debating whether to order one before the £5k grant ends or wait if they do a dual motor version of the cargo.
Thanks for this comment, really interesting ref the cargo version. A dual motor version sounds interesting. 😈⚡😈
Naturally charging infrastructure is crucial, but you should evaluate the charging speed as well, not only the range of the car. You get roughly another 100km of range in around 15min of charging ( I bet it takes longer for 4 person family with kids to have toilet brake and grab some coffee from the gas station than getting another 100km of range for this car),many other cars charge slower even they have larger battery or better efficiency and the end result is equal in long range driving. Everything is dependent on charging infrastructure. In Scandinavia range of Id buzz should not be a deal brake and we have some winter temperatures here. So far everything Chinese have been tested in Finnish winter fails dramatically. Reality is different from the specs on the paper.
Its a really good point you make. Many just focus on range, not the efficiency and Max charge speed. Again putting Tesla ahead of the pack.
For a family holiday car that's not enough range for me. Coming back from a week away, Sunday evening whej you jist want to get home, with the family in the car I don't want to be having to nurse it or charge in the motorway services for 30minutes.
Not to mention the ridiculous price!
If the public charging infrastructure was more reliable and the charging capability was better that would certainly help. 🤷♂️
Quite a decent honest review. Do you use cruise control much? I find it way more efficient for longer journeys. Plus the adaptive regen is really good!
Thanks for your feedback. I love cruise, adaptive, and most of all "self drive" on the tesla. Annoyingly my camper has nothing but it does have lane assist 🤣
After waiting for this vehicle for at least 10 years, it’s such a disappointment the overall package is so poor. Using the subpar MEB platform the Buzz was doomed to failure from an engineering standpoint before it was even off the drawing board. The range, efficiency and towing capacity just doesn’t cut the mustard for families. The packaging and price is a joke as is the GUI and software. Tesla will soon bring out a van after their Cybertruck, speaking of cult status the Cybertruck has somehow managed to attain this before it’s been birthed!? Work that out. The Cyber Van will have the practical ability that the Buzz simply can’t match and will be a lot more affordable. This history and the following are definitely there, have VW squandered the opportunity? The scene tax for this is colossal! Sadly none of the VW range have been the compelling and practical products that we crave from VW of old. The MG4 & new BYD Atto 3 are here and stealing VW’s lunch, while the recent price reduction in the Tesla range provides VW with the metaphorical wedgy coup degras to the VW ID 3 & ID 4 range. Only the lobotomised and true die hard vw fans will pay more for less of everything from the EV side of VW’s garage when compared to ANY rival. Oh NIO have yet to land on these shores, good luck VW, I think your going to need it…….
👏👏👏👏 encore 😉
@@chargeheadsuk Sorry to rant on your page, I just so so disappointed in VW.😔
@@commuterbranchline8132 they are very far behind. Ive just left a position at a VW main dealer group myself so know the product well. Rant away 😉
Poor range and cant tow over 1000kg!
What a letdown.. and missed opportunity.
We were going to swap from our Tesla to a Buzz but decided not to when we worked out the cost to 'fuel' and half the range!!
No thanks VW.. we will pass.
Another interesting comment, thabks for this didn't know the towing capability. Thabks for sharing 👍