not a problem! Most people broke it up into 3 parts. Might been the length. I'd recommend the next time you do something this long, maybe smaller bites? Most of us enjoy the 15-30 videos anyways! Just a suggestion!
@@trekkiexb5 yea I only watched 30 minutes of the documentary in this video lol. The extra 17 minutes is just from me talking 😂. I’m doing like 3 parts most likely though
Bobby Hurley didn't play 2 seasons in the NBA because he was in a car accident and was thrown from the car, didn't have a seat belt on. He was one of the best college players of all time.
@@sansabark I was just responding to what the guy said in the video " 2 years" . Hurley played until 1998. But he was Injured his rookie year. And was never the same after. Just so everyone know how good he was he's the ncaa all time assist leader still.
It was great that Scottie was on the Dream Team because he and Michael were the most productive hooping duo together in the NBA at that time when the Bulls were dominating. Scottie is a Hall of Famer and one of the great Basketball players of his era. The fact that Scottie and Michael were on the Dream Team together elevated the Dream Team's play even more because they already knew how to play and dominate other teams together. The fact that they both decided to pick on Toni Kukoc by switching off guarding him in the Olympics only for him later to join and play for the Bulls is hilarious.
I can't even explain how great the 90s were. Just the best decade, hands down. Everyone got along, everyone learned to laugh at each other, there was no social media, music was unreal. It was the golden age of rap and it brought the grunge movement. The Soviet Union had just collapsed. The world looked to be coming together in peace. I genuinely feel sorry for people who didn't experience the 90s Then, the internet became popular and destroyed everything.
16:04 Chuck Daly's wife worked for the CIA. His wife was Allen Dulles's secretary. Both Chuck Daly and Greg Popovich both interviewed for the CIA before becoming coaches professionally.
It was a combination of things that kept Thomas off the team! But Jordan did tell them... if Thomas was gonna be on a team ...he wasn't gonna play!! Lol.
exactly. I hope he finally got that. He kept talking over the part where that was clearly explained. It was NOT Jordan's call. It was more about the current image Isaiah set for himself. Remember, this was about showcasing the best of NBA basketball to the world. Isaiah was NOT the image they wanted to showcase. On top of that, yea it would've no doubt caused chemistry issues on the team. The Dream Team's coach clearly understood and was ok with it. He didn't protest or say he would walk if Isaiah was not on the team. Isaiah can still be crunchy about it all he wants but the fact of the matter is that he created the door that got slammed in his face.
I feel like the real conspiracy was to keep Shaq off the team. If Shaq was on the team he would be the media darling and everyone else would have been in the background.
@@ckobo84 Shaq was also a junior with 1 more year of eligibility left. The NBA wasn't a big fan of players leaving early back then. That's another reason why he wasn't chosen.
The beef started when Isaiah Thomas froze (convinced everybody to not pass to) Jordan out of his first all star game. Jordan said "Ight bet, I'mma freeze you out of the greatest team of all time" 😂
Oh yea I think I had reacted to a video where they mentioned that Isaiah Thomas had froze Jordan out of the all star game. At least Jordan ended up getting the last laugh lol
It was not just Zeke. Everyone did that. There is a much deeper issue between them that we don’t know about because Mike and Zeke used to hang out in chicgao all the time. There’s a bunch of stories of them and Scottie playing pickup in the hood, running with the young boys coming in the league, etc. And mike was said yo be real close with zekes brother when he first got to the chi. So whatever happened had to be some shit from the city between them.
Magic wasn’t on good terms with Isiah either, at that time. They were close friends but Magic was very hurt when Isiah treated him differently and spread rumours after Magic told everybody he had HIV. They made up some time ago and they both cried, but back then, it was a different story.
Scottie in 1991 wasn't the dominant overall player he became a few yrs later so at the time, it was probably a close call and why scottie was surprised to get the call. 1996 Pippen would have been a no brainer
@32:00 Coach K was Bobby Hurleys coach at Duke. Hurley was the point guard for Duke when they beat undefeated UNLV in the final four the year after losing to UNLV by 30. Hurley was good.
17:18, 19:22 Isaiah was the Captain when they beat Mike up and, since he did nothing to stop it, he was on Mike’s ShitList after that. Mike wouldn’t be there if Isaiah was💯 #YouReactedToThatVideoExplainingThat
Leatner actually did make it in the league. He has a ring, too. He actually played over 10 seasons in the NBA, but he wasn’t the star they thought he’d be coming out of college.
@@2villainy also that Shaq and dwade got a ring for on the heat. He was still in the league for 14+ years. Bums don’t last that long. Bums was out in 4 years or less.
If you consume all available comments on Zeke's snub from the Dream Team, it's somewhat apparent that either Magic, Bird, or both, probably laid the "no Isaiah" rule down before MJ ever committed.
I highly recommend the book on the screen right now 9:24 He goes into much more detail about everything here, particularly the Isaiah Thomas issue. Nobody wanted him to be on the team.
10:41 when Jordan asked who would be on the team, which is a fair question without any subtext, Rod Thorn responded by saying something along the lines of the person Jordan was worried about [Thomas] wouldn’t be on the team. Jordan still waited to hear about the other players.
It wasn't just MJ That kept Thomas off the team. It was Karl Malone Magic Johnson Larry Bird and Pippin. None of those guys liked thomas for good reason
The other thing that keeps getting overlooked was that the team only needed 2 point guards and one was always going to be Magic and so it came down to Stockton or Thomas and the person who decided wasn't the players or the execs: it was Chuck Daly. Isiah's own head coach picked Stockton over him because he didn't need that headache of trying to keep MJ on the team with Isiah around coupled with Stocktons already built in chemistry with Malone. Thomas never had a shot of making that team all because he picked a beef with MJ and MJ didn't need to do a thing to keep him off.
Yeah. Dream team was winning gold with or without Isiah so why have a guy no one likes was the thought. Barcelona was 1/2 a vacation. They wanted no drama
@@MrAitraining With the collapse of the Soviet Union the college team would have won the gold in 1992 and 96. The Dream team was more about putting the nba on a International stage for global popularity.
@@boballab the irony of that is magic and Stockton were hurt during the Olympics. Magic missed games and Stockton only played a couple I think. Pippen and jordan played a lot of the PG. Still didnt matter though
Bird and Magic first played together in some type of high school all star team or something. Neither of them played in Olympics before...another reason why it was big for them to play together on dream team
Don’t sleep on that Select team that played the Dream Team. Hurley was the starting point guard for 2x champ Duke, Webber, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill on that Duke team, as well), Jamal Mashburn, and Rodney Rodgers were all big time college players with various degrees of success in the NBA. Magic and Bird didn’t play for USA Basketball until the Dream Team. That’s why Mike was saying he’d take reduced minutes so they’d have a chance to play more. Mike had a gold already from the 84 Games and knew that Bird and Magic never had that opportunity.
4:10 David Robinson was not like the centers of his time which were back to the basket post up players. He faced the rim mostly, had range on the jumper or used his quickness and athleticism to drive to the hoop.
The only problem the redeem team would face against the dream team would be in the paint.. Ewing, Robinson, Karl Malone, Barkley. Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh and Carlos Boozer aint cutting it. and while the Redeem Team was perimeter heavy, that played right into the Dream Teams defensive strength. While Magic and Stockton werent reliable against speedy perimeter players, Scottie Pippen, Michael Jordan and even Clyde Drexler, WERE. Also Magic and Stockton are numbers 2 and 1 ALL time on the steams list, respectively, so them passing lanes were NOT friendly.. plus the interior defense of the Dream Team.. Have I mentioned Jordan's offense yet? or the perimeter offense yet? it would be tough for the Redeem team because of the paint.
This is Magic and Bird first Olympic Gold Medal. This is there first Olympics appearance. In the 70s Team USA was a Tournament of players from different countries. But it wasn't the Olympics.
The Redeem Team was in 2008. This was after a team of NBA players lost in 2004. Then again the original Dream Team was redemption for David Robinson, who was on the 1988 team that lost.
Pippen definitely deserved it, he was the best wing player in the nba at the time. he's basically the prototype for the wing players in the nba today, long, strong, fast, great dfense, point forward types. Chuck Daly, the head coach of the dream team, when talking about pippen on the dream team, said, "I know Michael's the best player, but Pippen was the best player on that team" because of his versatility on offense and defense and his ability to always lock down the opposing team's best player.
Magic and Bird never played together until the dream team. They first met in college playing for the NCAA championship… then in NBA going for that championship… That’s why it meant so much to Magic. He finally got to play with his long time rival and close friend.
That's not true. In college they played on the World Invitational Tournament on the same team. Throughout their NBA careers they also played together on various charity teams.
Larry didn't hate Isaiah, in fact when Isaiah said his sarcastic comment about how if Larry was a Black NBA player he would just be another good guy Larry did a press conference with Isaiah there to say tell the press and people calling for Isaiah's head that it didn't bother him and shouldn't bother them. He literally saved Isaiah his career because of how chill and noble Larry as a man is. Isaiah to this day respects Larry for doing what he did for him in letting people know it didn't bother him. Larry was and is Larry Legend for being the level of class of a human being that he is, that is his legacy in the sport and his life even above his Hall of Fame Basketball skills.
Thinking of the Magic & Bird comment you made about them saving the NBA… magic was also theNBA’s first million dollar player. Then Boston followed suit with Bird. First and second players to receive a million dollar a year contract. So think of how much players make now… it all started with them.
Nice! I've been hoping you would check out the dream team. On a different note, if you're looking for new ideas for reactions, you should check out the fat electrician. He does military history stuff, but he finds pretty obscure and unique things. He's also really funny, so even if history isn't really your thing I think you'll at least get a few laughs out of it. I'd recommend checking out "The Most Gangster Marine of All Time" but you can't really go wrong with any of his content.
23:30 that's the difference between the stars back then and the "stars" of today's creampuff era. Back then, they wanted to compete AGAINST each other, rather than form superteams in the NBA. Hell, there's times where I think LeChoke Steroid, Twigman Durant, and others will try and join the other team during the game if they are losing...........
Scottie was the youngest and just entered his prime during this time. 92 was Mullin’s best season so it makes sense why he was chosen but looking back decades later it should have been Thomas Christian Laettner did make an all star team so he wasnt a complete bust.
Scottie was put on the team more for his defensive ability. Even that early, he was the best defending small forward in the league (ask Magic..😏). There aren't many players in history that you can call out that could effectively guard 4 or 5 different positions. Scottie is one of them. That is part what later made 72-10 Bulls arguably the best team in history. It wasn't their scoring. It was the defense. They had 4 players in the starting lineup that could lockdown guard at least 3 different positions a piece. I've watched the NBA since '81. I have never seen a team til this day as great defensively as that Bulls' team. There were times I remember where the other team would not be able to score for 5-10 mins straight. Where do you ever hear that these days unless they just couldn't hit a 3?!? People forget that many games the Bulls would come out in the 3rd quarter of games and lock down the other team so bad that they would have a 20-25-30pt lead and the starters wouldn't even play the 4th quarter.
Wilt the only one near Mike. 7'2" . 48 inch vertical. 4.4 40 . 500 lbs bench press. Greatest athlete ever. 72 NBA records. Wilt played GUARD for the Globe Trotters. Alien. 2nd . Kareem 3rd . 10 finals 6 rings. 6 MVP awards . Last ring 40 years old. Last finals MVP 38 years old Longevity.
I think something has to be said. Isaiah Thomas was not excluded because Michael Jordan didn't like him. Isaiah Thomas was excluded because everyone involved, right to the top, was afraid that Thomas would cause trouble and embarrass the team and the nation. And I think this was a valid concern. This was about more than winning the gold.
I feel like Scottie deserved it, he's of the best guards in NBA at that time and he was one of the greatest defenders too + add chemistry with Jordan, it's like forming a dream team and calling Shaq but not calling Kobe in 2000s
There are full Dream Team games on the official Olympics TH-cam channel if you want to watch them crushing other countries. The video quality is good too.
Maybe they could have asked Dominique Wilkins instead of Scotty? He's just about the only player that I would consider better than him at the small forward other than Bird around that time.
Look into Len Bias, a super college talent taken away before he got to go to the league to challenge MJ there. They faced off in college (Maryland v NC).
I don’t think MJ ever explicitly said he wouldn’t play if Isaiah played. It seems to me, Ron Thorn and the committee kept him off as an assurance Michael would play…also, yeah, a lot of other guys didn’t like him either
Chuck Daly kept him off, Daly had final sign off on which players played and he took Stockton as the second point guard behind Magic and he didn't want to deal with the nonsense and PR that having to try and keep MJ and Thomas from destroying the team.
Also it was like they said - Isiah was seen as a sore loser with bad sportsmanship after walking off the court before the game ended, which is not a good look to represent your country in the OLYMPICS. Be a "Bad Boy" all you want, but then you have to accept the consequences of your own actions.
@@boballab interesting, I’ve never heard that but it sounds like a Chuck Daly thing to do I.e. create the best possible conditions to get the job he was hired to do, done. Personally, I have Chuck Daly at the top of my greatest coaches list. Not only was he able to think outside the box, he did it while simultaneously and successfully managing 2 of the most potentially combustible groups of egos with the Bad Boys and then with the Dream Team 1. I mean, as we’ve seen many times before, just throwing a bunch of talent together on one team can have unexpectedly disastrous results if not managed/coached properly. And, looking at what the Pistons did vs what (my favorite team ever) the talent rich Cavs of the late 80s/early 90s weren’t able to even being coached by the great Lenny Wilkins, unable to contain Jordan come playoff time, Chuck Daly was able to implement “The Jordan Rules” and win back-2-back championships. Of course, Phil has all the bling which is hard to argue against bc he was also terrific at managing personalities, but Phil had Mike, then Kobe who were both going to will their way into a few championships with or without Phil. Just my opinion though
Definitely do more Magic content, you're gonna love it! Here's some follow ups to some of the side stories and points you mentioned: Magic&Larry dropping dimes on the dream team th-cam.com/video/XM_hWbVx6SE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MDqOPkWcO7ylyvu1 Jamal Mashburn tells a story from the scrimmage with the select team th-cam.com/video/io7sthOGGaU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jfMmC4rWU1cBN-Sm
After Isiah told his team to walk off the court because the Bulls had won, that was the HEIGHT of disrespect! Those who chose the Team were probably worried would he bring the ‘bad boy’ play to the Olympics. That would have been HORRIFIC
The team Bird/Magic played in in college was team of the americas. Not the Olympics. 1980 was Olympics in Moscow and the US boycotted due to Russia invading Afghanistan. Russia then boycotted game in LA in 1984
Great reaction & I hear you about Bird. Great player but growing up I was never particularly intrigued by him or his game, and I mean no disrespect when I say that. What I've notice particularly on this TH-cam platform is that there are a small but passionate (mostly white) vocal contingent of Larry Bird lovers. Some are quite delusional and often go around TH-cam making their delusional case that NO one else believes (Basketball experts, majority of past & current players, fans, general public etc.) except them that he's the GOAT. Now, although he was a great player, the reality is that his mostly white fanbase loved him not only because he was a talented player, but more importantly, he's White. In other words, if he was Black, you wouldn't see no where near the same level of passion for him exhibited by White people. He was indeed their "Great White Hope" in a ever changing league dominated by Black men -- change that some, including Bird fans, struggle to accept and in some cases resented. This was also the case in football, baseball & boxing. So, make no mistake about it, their love & passion for Larry Bird is mostly rooted in his whiteness. Anyway, this "Dream Team" doc has always been one of my favorites. Oh, and Jordan is the GOAT by the way. Great job.
Exactly! You can't negate the time in which Bird played in...the culture was apart of racism. I was 18 , grauduated in 1972 apart of the first integration of school in 1970/71. I didn't care for Bird back then, not his ball playing but his attitude. He and Majic became friends which in all friendships, that comes first from allowing yourself to get to know the person. Majic said himself in a clip that Bird wanted no part in becoming friends and he said he was like ok, if that's the way it is, that's the way it is 😂. Now don't get me wrong Bird could shoot a 3 from around the corner. They formed a Very Good Friendship, bc they were able to put color behind them. I applaud that.
@@joannpreston2999 Respect and I agree. So, you not only literally witness the NBA evolve but society as well, and just like many resented school integration during your era, they also resented the ever changing racial composition of the NBA -- such change made Larry Bird even more beloved by his mostly white fans. There is clearly a racial component to his support that's undeniable. Yes, Larry Bird was clearly a great player & I have a lot of respect for his career, but you can not dismiss the racial dynamics during that era & the role it played and continues to play in some people's support for him. Thank you for sharing, Joann Preston.
Had to cut a couple parts out because of TH-cam blocking the video🥲 but I hope y’all enjoy this was definitely a good one!!
not a problem! Most people broke it up into 3 parts. Might been the length. I'd recommend the next time you do something this long, maybe smaller bites? Most of us enjoy the 15-30 videos anyways! Just a suggestion!
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Snaps... The 3 G.O.A.T together with the iconic photo.. That's my guy Bird-MJ-Magic history. 😂
Great vid BRO :)
@@trekkiexb5 yea I only watched 30 minutes of the documentary in this video lol. The extra 17 minutes is just from me talking 😂. I’m doing like 3 parts most likely though
Bobby Hurley didn't play 2 seasons in the NBA because he was in a car accident and was thrown from the car, didn't have a seat belt on. He was one of the best college players of all time.
Dang that’s sad thanks for the background info!
Hurley was great
Wikipedia says he played from 94 to 99 after his accident.
@@sansabark I was just responding to what the guy said in the video " 2 years" . Hurley played until 1998. But he was Injured his rookie year. And was never the same after. Just so everyone know how good he was he's the ncaa all time assist leader still.
Good Point!
Please don't stop . Glad you are focusing on on school. Great reactions
"Isiah is who pat bev think he is" on point my guy you had me cracking up with that one
It was great that Scottie was on the Dream Team because he and Michael were the most productive hooping duo together in the NBA at that time when the Bulls were dominating. Scottie is a Hall of Famer and one of the great Basketball players of his era. The fact that Scottie and Michael were on the Dream Team together elevated the Dream Team's play even more because they already knew how to play and dominate other teams together. The fact that they both decided to pick on Toni Kukoc by switching off guarding him in the Olympics only for him later to join and play for the Bulls is hilarious.
I can't even explain how great the 90s were. Just the best decade, hands down. Everyone got along, everyone learned to laugh at each other, there was no social media, music was unreal. It was the golden age of rap and it brought the grunge movement. The Soviet Union had just collapsed. The world looked to be coming together in peace. I genuinely feel sorry for people who didn't experience the 90s
Then, the internet became popular and destroyed everything.
This is true.
The 90s was an amazing time
5:32, 7:05 We went from college students in the Games to having MICHAEL♥️♥️
The lesson Daly was teaching them losing to the college kids was meant to show them they can be beaten.
16:04 Chuck Daly's wife worked for the CIA. His wife was Allen Dulles's secretary. Both Chuck Daly and Greg Popovich both interviewed for the CIA before becoming coaches professionally.
Yeah the goat won the gold medal as a college player, then did it again as a pro...... goat
Always really happy to see a TH-camr taking the time to talk to their dog or cat! Thanks for another great reaction. Subbed!
Jordan did not keep Thomas off the team. It was a call by the USA Olympic Committee because of his poor sportsmanship in the finals
It was a combination of things that kept Thomas off the team! But Jordan did tell them... if Thomas was gonna be on a team ...he wasn't gonna play!! Lol.
exactly. I hope he finally got that. He kept talking over the part where that was clearly explained. It was NOT Jordan's call. It was more about the current image Isaiah set for himself. Remember, this was about showcasing the best of NBA basketball to the world. Isaiah was NOT the image they wanted to showcase. On top of that, yea it would've no doubt caused chemistry issues on the team. The Dream Team's coach clearly understood and was ok with it. He didn't protest or say he would walk if Isaiah was not on the team.
Isaiah can still be crunchy about it all he wants but the fact of the matter is that he created the door that got slammed in his face.
I feel like the real conspiracy was to keep Shaq off the team. If Shaq was on the team he would be the media darling and everyone else would have been in the background.
@@ckobo84 You trippin! Laettner was coming off back-to-back championships! Thats why he was picked! No conspriacy...just common sense! lol
@@ckobo84 Shaq was also a junior with 1 more year of eligibility left. The NBA wasn't a big fan of players leaving early back then. That's another reason why he wasn't chosen.
Hey man I lived in the 1990s and Scottie was one of my favorite players.
Not only MJ did not want Thomas, half the team hated him
Everyone hated the Bad Boy Pistons. That is why we Love the Bad boys here in Detroit. Detroit vs Everyone.
@@trl2828 ESPECIALLY everyone in Chicago along with myself hated them.
@@davidmolina9166how’d that feel with Isiah being from Chicago?
@@trl2828y’all know Naptown ain’t intimidated by Detroit.
@@justinpitcock5312 Naptown wants so badly to be Detroit but it cant.
Ewing was born in Jamica but immigrated to the US. Lattner had a double didget year career in the NBA.
and guess what, Lattiner also made an all star too
5:14 We should’ve come in doing a PARTY DANCE😂🤣👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
The beef started when Isaiah Thomas froze (convinced everybody to not pass to) Jordan out of his first all star game.
Jordan said "Ight bet, I'mma freeze you out of the greatest team of all time" 😂
Oh yea I think I had reacted to a video where they mentioned that Isaiah Thomas had froze Jordan out of the all star game. At least Jordan ended up getting the last laugh lol
It was not just Zeke. Everyone did that. There is a much deeper issue between them that we don’t know about because Mike and Zeke used to hang out in chicgao all the time. There’s a bunch of stories of them and Scottie playing pickup in the hood, running with the young boys coming in the league, etc. And mike was said yo be real close with zekes brother when he first got to the chi. So whatever happened had to be some shit from the city between them.
@@TheIcemanthomaszeke was petty and when chi became MJ's he was salty
@@TheIcemanthomas Zeke was the initiator of it.
Best all around player period GOAT 🐐
Maaaan! I miss those years. The hyper competitive nature of the players back then, is a constant reminder of what the league is missing today. 😢
Magic wasn’t on good terms with Isiah either, at that time. They were close friends but Magic was very hurt when Isiah treated him differently and spread rumours after Magic told everybody he had HIV. They made up some time ago and they both cried, but back then, it was a different story.
Scottie in 1991 wasn't the dominant overall player he became a few yrs later so at the time, it was probably a close call and why scottie was surprised to get the call. 1996 Pippen would have been a no brainer
I grew up in Chicago & was a bouncer in the clubs
I was 23 the servers gave Scotti a nickname. No tippin Pippen. LOL
@32:00 Coach K was Bobby Hurleys coach at Duke. Hurley was the point guard for Duke when they beat undefeated UNLV in the final four the year after losing to UNLV by 30. Hurley was good.
Definitely do part 2
The best team assembled ever.
They wasnt concerned Barkley wouldnt WANT to play. They were concerned about his BEHAVIOR..
17:18, 19:22 Isaiah was the Captain when they beat Mike up and, since he did nothing to stop it, he was on Mike’s ShitList after that. Mike wouldn’t be there if Isaiah was💯 #YouReactedToThatVideoExplainingThat
Before the dream team, Jordan's college olympic team beat the nba dream all star team.
The greatest basketball team ever assembled
Leatner actually did make it in the league. He has a ring, too. He actually played over 10 seasons in the NBA, but he wasn’t the star they thought he’d be coming out of college.
He also was one of the many bums Jordan carried on the wizards
@@2villainy also that Shaq and dwade got a ring for on the heat. He was still in the league for 14+ years. Bums don’t last that long. Bums was out in 4 years or less.
Ewing is from Jamaica, West Indies! And Scottie was a lot nicer than what people give him credit for. Now he wasn’t better than 23, but he was nice!😇
If you consume all available comments on Zeke's snub from the Dream Team, it's somewhat apparent that either Magic, Bird, or both, probably laid the "no Isaiah" rule down before MJ ever committed.
I highly recommend the book on the screen right now 9:24
He goes into much more detail about everything here, particularly the Isaiah Thomas issue. Nobody wanted him to be on the team.
10:41 when Jordan asked who would be on the team, which is a fair question without any subtext, Rod Thorn responded by saying something along the lines of the person Jordan was worried about [Thomas] wouldn’t be on the team. Jordan still waited to hear about the other players.
This was crazy. Everyone was glued to their TVs whenever they played! At 73, I still get chills watching this documentary 🥰
It wasn't just MJ That kept Thomas off the team. It was Karl Malone Magic Johnson Larry Bird and Pippin. None of those guys liked thomas for good reason
The other thing that keeps getting overlooked was that the team only needed 2 point guards and one was always going to be Magic and so it came down to Stockton or Thomas and the person who decided wasn't the players or the execs: it was Chuck Daly. Isiah's own head coach picked Stockton over him because he didn't need that headache of trying to keep MJ on the team with Isiah around coupled with Stocktons already built in chemistry with Malone. Thomas never had a shot of making that team all because he picked a beef with MJ and MJ didn't need to do a thing to keep him off.
@@boballabany rational person would take stockton over zeke, especially as a better fit for that team
Yeah. Dream team was winning gold with or without Isiah so why have a guy no one likes was the thought. Barcelona was 1/2 a vacation. They wanted no drama
@@MrAitraining With the collapse of the Soviet Union the college team would have won the gold in 1992 and 96. The Dream team was more about putting the nba on a International stage for global popularity.
@@boballab the irony of that is magic and Stockton were hurt during the Olympics. Magic missed games and Stockton only played a couple I think. Pippen and jordan played a lot of the PG. Still didnt matter though
Bird and Magic first played together in some type of high school all star team or something. Neither of them played in Olympics before...another reason why it was big for them to play together on dream team
I remember that 92' ASG...one of the best sportsmanship moments in sports history.
Don’t sleep on that Select team that played the Dream Team. Hurley was the starting point guard for 2x champ Duke, Webber, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill on that Duke team, as well), Jamal Mashburn, and Rodney Rodgers were all big time college players with various degrees of success in the NBA.
Magic and Bird didn’t play for USA Basketball until the Dream Team. That’s why Mike was saying he’d take reduced minutes so they’d have a chance to play more. Mike had a gold already from the 84 Games and knew that Bird and Magic never had that opportunity.
4:10 David Robinson was not like the centers of his time which were back to the basket post up players. He faced the rim mostly, had range on the jumper or used his quickness and athleticism to drive to the hoop.
Laettner played 14 years in the NBA, he made it in the league.
36:44 My other MJ. I was 8 when that Press Conference happened. Never could’ve told me this would be possible, to be able to LIVE with this😟👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
The only problem the redeem team would face against the dream team would be in the paint.. Ewing, Robinson, Karl Malone, Barkley. Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh and Carlos Boozer aint cutting it. and while the Redeem Team was perimeter heavy, that played right into the Dream Teams defensive strength. While Magic and Stockton werent reliable against speedy perimeter players, Scottie Pippen, Michael Jordan and even Clyde Drexler, WERE. Also Magic and Stockton are numbers 2 and 1 ALL time on the steams list, respectively, so them passing lanes were NOT friendly.. plus the interior defense of the Dream Team.. Have I mentioned Jordan's offense yet? or the perimeter offense yet? it would be tough for the Redeem team because of the paint.
12:49 Can’t have Mike without Scottie. That’s common sense in hindsight♥️
This is Magic and Bird first Olympic Gold Medal. This is there first Olympics appearance.
In the 70s Team USA was a Tournament of players from different countries. But it wasn't the Olympics.
The Redeem Team was in 2008. This was after a team of NBA players lost in 2004. Then again the original Dream Team was redemption for David Robinson, who was on the 1988 team that lost.
Pippen definitely deserved it, he was the best wing player in the nba at the time. he's basically the prototype for the wing players in the nba today, long, strong, fast, great dfense, point forward types. Chuck Daly, the head coach of the dream team, when talking about pippen on the dream team, said, "I know Michael's the best player, but Pippen was the best player on that team" because of his versatility on offense and defense and his ability to always lock down the opposing team's best player.
14:37 That’s what it’s all about. This was the only way they’d all be together like that
Magic and Bird never played together until the dream team. They first met in college playing for the NCAA championship… then in NBA going for that championship…
That’s why it meant so much to Magic. He finally got to play with his long time rival and close friend.
Yup was just going to point that mistake out they never played in the 1980 Olympics because they were already Pro's.
That's not true. In college they played on the World Invitational Tournament on the same team. Throughout their NBA careers they also played together on various charity teams.
Man. Scottie was a bad man. Put spme spec on his name... he should have won defensive player of the year a few times also...
When magic first came out with the news that he had HIV, Larry Bird was the first one to call him
The full team and David stern came together and said they didn’t want Isaiah on the team. Including his best friend magic
Zeke and Magic wasn't friends anymore at that time because of the rumors Zeke started about him.
@@CTBSlash0509 precisely the reason
Larry didn't hate Isaiah, in fact when Isaiah said his sarcastic comment about how if Larry was a Black NBA player he would just be another good guy Larry did a press conference with Isaiah there to say tell the press and people calling for Isaiah's head that it didn't bother him and shouldn't bother them. He literally saved Isaiah his career because of how chill and noble Larry as a man is. Isaiah to this day respects Larry for doing what he did for him in letting people know it didn't bother him. Larry was and is Larry Legend for being the level of class of a human being that he is, that is his legacy in the sport and his life even above his Hall of Fame Basketball skills.
Thinking of the Magic & Bird comment you made about them saving the NBA… magic was also theNBA’s first million dollar player. Then Boston followed suit with Bird. First and second players to receive a million dollar a year contract. So think of how much players make now… it all started with them.
There may be other Olympic teams with HOF'ers...but this was the first and so far, the only, with 11 hall of famers.
Nice! I've been hoping you would check out the dream team.
On a different note, if you're looking for new ideas for reactions, you should check out the fat electrician. He does military history stuff, but he finds pretty obscure and unique things. He's also really funny, so even if history isn't really your thing I think you'll at least get a few laughs out of it.
I'd recommend checking out "The Most Gangster Marine of All Time" but you can't really go wrong with any of his content.
Yeah Magic and Larry saved the NBA in the 1980s but MJ did much more than just take the torch ..he took the NBA to another level worldwide
Bobby Hurley only played 2 seasons because of a terrible car accident, let's be real. That dude could play.
23:30 that's the difference between the stars back then and the "stars" of today's creampuff era. Back then, they wanted to compete AGAINST each other, rather than form superteams in the NBA. Hell, there's times where I think LeChoke Steroid, Twigman Durant, and others will try and join the other team during the game if they are losing...........
Scottie was the youngest and just entered his prime during this time. 92 was Mullin’s best season so it makes sense why he was chosen but looking back decades later it should have been Thomas
Christian Laettner did make an all star team so he wasnt a complete bust.
Do the next video, awesome episode
Scottie was put on the team more for his defensive ability. Even that early, he was the best defending small forward in the league (ask Magic..😏). There aren't many players in history that you can call out that could effectively guard 4 or 5 different positions. Scottie is one of them. That is part what later made 72-10 Bulls arguably the best team in history. It wasn't their scoring. It was the defense. They had 4 players in the starting lineup that could lockdown guard at least 3 different positions a piece. I've watched the NBA since '81. I have never seen a team til this day as great defensively as that Bulls' team. There were times I remember where the other team would not be able to score for 5-10 mins straight. Where do you ever hear that these days unless they just couldn't hit a 3?!? People forget that many games the Bulls would come out in the 3rd quarter of games and lock down the other team so bad that they would have a 20-25-30pt lead and the starters wouldn't even play the 4th quarter.
I’m surprised YT is blocking any of it. I’ve seen the full reaction about 30 times with no issues from other reactors.
Wilt the only one near Mike. 7'2" . 48 inch vertical. 4.4 40 . 500 lbs bench press. Greatest athlete ever. 72 NBA records. Wilt played GUARD for the Globe Trotters. Alien. 2nd . Kareem 3rd . 10 finals 6 rings. 6 MVP awards . Last ring 40 years old. Last finals MVP 38 years old Longevity.
Isaiah wasn't on the team because he encouraged his teammates , like Lambier, to take out players on the opposing team.
Hockey ?
All American Bobby Hurley was injury prone. He was seen As a future Hall of Famer before the injuries.
You have to remember the 2012 team learned a lot from the older players.
The older players didn’t learn anything from todays players
I think something has to be said. Isaiah Thomas was not excluded because Michael Jordan didn't like him. Isaiah Thomas was excluded because everyone involved, right to the top, was afraid that Thomas would cause trouble and embarrass the team and the nation. And I think this was a valid concern. This was about more than winning the gold.
I feel like Scottie deserved it, he's of the best guards in NBA at that time and he was one of the greatest defenders too + add chemistry with Jordan, it's like forming a dream team and calling Shaq but not calling Kobe in 2000s
I rooted against Bird but I've never seen anyone with the consistency of greatness than Larry Bird
Scottie was actually one of the best on that team.
That select team was nice though
I loved the 90s.
Isaiah did it to himself. He's the one that kept himself from the team, lets be real
There are full Dream Team games on the official Olympics TH-cam channel if you want to watch them crushing other countries. The video quality is good too.
you're seriously sleeping on how good scottie was tbh
Maybe they could have asked Dominique Wilkins instead of Scotty? He's just about the only player that I would consider better than him at the small forward other than Bird around that time.
Dominique definitely could have been there instead of Scottie but I guess Jordan just had too much pull
Wilkins ruptured his Achilles tendon January 1992 . so he wasn't an option.
Wilkins was having surgery so he wasn't an option.
@@dannybachner899 damn. I didn't know
8:45, 10:01 Mike went O F F in practice👊🏿👊🏿
Jordan only had one chip at this point so yeah Magic's five was better.
Jordan had 2 at this point
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No, he had 1
@@irishgrl The bulls had just beat Portland for their second title then Jordan went to the Olympics after that. 2 championships.
This was Bird and Magic first Olympics bro remember
Bird has a daughter born out of wedlock and he still won’t acknowledge her.
Look into Len Bias, a super college talent taken away before he got to go to the league to challenge MJ there. They faced off in college (Maryland v NC).
I don’t think MJ ever explicitly said he wouldn’t play if Isaiah played. It seems to me, Ron Thorn and the committee kept him off as an assurance Michael would play…also, yeah, a lot of other guys didn’t like him either
Chuck Daly kept him off, Daly had final sign off on which players played and he took Stockton as the second point guard behind Magic and he didn't want to deal with the nonsense and PR that having to try and keep MJ and Thomas from destroying the team.
Also it was like they said - Isiah was seen as a sore loser with bad sportsmanship after walking off the court before the game ended, which is not a good look to represent your country in the OLYMPICS. Be a "Bad Boy" all you want, but then you have to accept the consequences of your own actions.
@@boballab interesting, I’ve never heard that but it sounds like a Chuck Daly thing to do I.e. create the best possible conditions to get the job he was hired to do, done. Personally, I have Chuck Daly at the top of my greatest coaches list. Not only was he able to think outside the box, he did it while simultaneously and successfully managing 2 of the most potentially combustible groups of egos with the Bad Boys and then with the Dream Team 1. I mean, as we’ve seen many times before, just throwing a bunch of talent together on one team can have unexpectedly disastrous results if not managed/coached properly. And, looking at what the Pistons did vs what (my favorite team ever) the talent rich Cavs of the late 80s/early 90s weren’t able to even being coached by the great Lenny Wilkins, unable to contain Jordan come playoff time, Chuck Daly was able to implement “The Jordan Rules” and win back-2-back championships. Of course, Phil has all the bling which is hard to argue against bc he was also terrific at managing personalities, but Phil had Mike, then Kobe who were both going to will their way into a few championships with or without Phil. Just my opinion though
Dominique Wilkins would have made the Dream Team over Pippen if he hadn't torn his Achilles tendon.
Definitely do more Magic content, you're gonna love it!
Here's some follow ups to some of the side stories and points you mentioned:
Magic&Larry dropping dimes on the dream team
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Jamal Mashburn tells a story from the scrimmage with the select team
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Dr J saved Basketball.
After Isiah told his team to walk off the court because the Bulls had won, that was the HEIGHT of disrespect! Those who chose the Team were probably worried would he bring the ‘bad boy’ play to the Olympics. That would have been HORRIFIC
stockton and malone vs barckley and own ego. stockton and malone were proper lethal.
Dream team didn't really lose. They didn't play a full game and Daly did throw it.
man, bobby hurley was no joke. He almost his life. yall dont know basketball dude. Dude you crack me up. Yall had no history. Just flash.
9:25, 10:01 36 holes, 90 days outta the summer😟😟😟😟
The team Bird/Magic played in in college was team of the americas. Not the Olympics. 1980 was Olympics in Moscow and the US boycotted due to Russia invading Afghanistan. Russia then boycotted game in LA in 1984
Ewing was a Boston Native.
Great reaction & I hear you about Bird. Great player but growing up I was never particularly intrigued by him or his game, and I mean no disrespect when I say that. What I've notice particularly on this TH-cam platform is that there are a small but passionate (mostly white) vocal contingent of Larry Bird lovers. Some are quite delusional and often go around TH-cam making their delusional case that NO one else believes (Basketball experts, majority of past & current players, fans, general public etc.) except them that he's the GOAT. Now, although he was a great player, the reality is that his mostly white fanbase loved him not only because he was a talented player, but more importantly, he's White. In other words, if he was Black, you wouldn't see no where near the same level of passion for him exhibited by White people. He was indeed their "Great White Hope" in a ever changing league dominated by Black men -- change that some, including Bird fans, struggle to accept and in some cases resented. This was also the case in football, baseball & boxing. So, make no mistake about it, their love & passion for Larry Bird is mostly rooted in his whiteness. Anyway, this "Dream Team" doc has always been one of my favorites. Oh, and Jordan is the GOAT by the way. Great job.
Exactly! You can't negate the time in which Bird played in...the culture was apart of racism. I was 18 , grauduated in 1972 apart of the first integration of school in 1970/71. I didn't care for Bird back then, not his ball playing but his attitude. He and Majic became friends which in all friendships, that comes first from allowing yourself to get to know the person. Majic said himself in a clip that Bird wanted no part in becoming friends and he said he was like ok, if that's the way it is, that's the way it is 😂. Now don't get me wrong Bird could shoot a 3 from around the corner. They formed a Very Good Friendship, bc they were able to put color behind them. I applaud that.
@@joannpreston2999 Respect and I agree. So, you not only literally witness the NBA evolve but society as well, and just like many resented school integration during your era, they also resented the ever changing racial composition of the NBA -- such change made Larry Bird even more beloved by his mostly white fans. There is clearly a racial component to his support that's undeniable. Yes, Larry Bird was clearly a great player & I have a lot of respect for his career, but you can not dismiss the racial dynamics during that era & the role it played and continues to play in some people's support for him. Thank you for sharing, Joann Preston.
Larry doesn't hate Iasiah. He is neutral feelings about him. Bill Lambeer, however, was the only player that Larry, to this day, HATES.
16:14, 17:06 So he kept Isaiah away, but still had his COACH❓#Damn #ThatISRight
Redeem team was 2008 in China
Micheal wasn’t playing if I. Thomas joined the dream team
Take a shot for every bro.