@@RetroWarsuk Having played this a few months ago as very much an adult... its pretty coherent and understandable. I expected it to be way more obtuse than SaGa1's inscrutable look up table and arbitrary values system, that even after many hours of note taking I couldnt comprehend. To my surprise, it was not made for aliens but rather streamlined in a pretty clever way. The monster transformations work in predictable ways that, with enough tests and writing things down, can be figured out within the quarter of the game. Mutants are still kinda odd, but you can control what things don't get overwritten. Only the 4th option changes, unlike the first where everything would and you'd often get bricked characters.
@@RetroWarsuk SaGa1 is short enough and historically significant enough to warrant a play through I feel. Its much better than FF2 for sure. That said, for you I'd recommend skipping it and maybe looking at SaGa3. It wasnt designed by Kawazu, and functions a lot more like a standard JRPG.
This was one of my favorite games as a kid. However, I can easily understand how someone could hate it. It doesn't hurt that I loved the music back then and still like it now. Nice review.
This was really formative for me - my first owned square soft rpg. I played “FF2” for the snes at my friend’s house and needed a FF game asap, but all I had was the gameboy. This was a much better gameboy game than it needed to be.
My first successful party when I was a kid, that I beat the game with, was 2 humans & 2 mutants. Also for robots, the max weapons can recover to is 50% always rounded down to the nearest integer of the number of uses left at the time you equip it to the robot. And the 50% reduction is applied every time you equip or unequip the weapon to the robot. This, for example, means the ridiculously powerful one-use Glass sword cannot be used by robots and you would waste it be equipping it to one.
This is probably the most charming and fun Saga game. It's not so brutal that it actually allows you to have fun with its quirky, obtuse progression systems without needing to read a guide beforehand lest you end up hitting a brick wall.
This was the first Squaresoft RPG I played because I got it and Final Fantasy I the same day but mom and I were about to go visit her family in another state so I put Final Fantasy I off until I got home. Its easily my favorite of the first three turn based JRPGs I owned (Dragon Quest/Warrior II, Final Fantasy I, and Saga/Final Fantasy Legend II) its easily my favorite. I love the Human and Mutant ability growth systems but I rarely use Monsters. I usually go either two Humans, one Mutant and one Robot or one Human, two Mutants, and one Robot.
@@RetroWarsuk I never liked Dragon Quest I. I started playing PC RPGs at dad's oldest friends house when I was very young so Dragon Quest I was far too simple for me to have much fun with. 1 versus 1 battles with incredibly limited tactical control, a single party member and class system or any reasonable way to determine or influence his stat growth beyond how high a level you reached didn't impress me though I became more forgiving as I grew older and accepted it wasn't meant for players like me it was meant for someone completely new to RPGs. Dragon Quest II wasn't great but it was such an improvement over the first game I was willing to cut it some slack. III was the first great game in the series IMO.
Honestly even if this game doesn't care to elaborate on its systems like mutant skill learning and the early, early megami tensei demon fusion-esque monster system, among a host of other problems, there's something about these janky game boy rpgs that has a lot of charm for me
No one understands "Unlimited Saga". I stopped playing it. I even stopped playing the first 'Saga Frontier' because of how HP versus life points was working and there is just too many obtuse systems. It's like the dev team thought. 'more ... MORE.... MORE!!!!' and.. no one told them this was a bad idea. Like rules from the top down cocking up the work floor because the boss thought it was a good change.
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This game is a fever dream for me. I just remember trying and failing to understand it as a kid.
@@Scottsaun imagine trying to understand it as an adult
@@RetroWarsuk Having played this a few months ago as very much an adult... its pretty coherent and understandable. I expected it to be way more obtuse than SaGa1's inscrutable look up table and arbitrary values system, that even after many hours of note taking I couldnt comprehend. To my surprise, it was not made for aliens but rather streamlined in a pretty clever way. The monster transformations work in predictable ways that, with enough tests and writing things down, can be figured out within the quarter of the game.
Mutants are still kinda odd, but you can control what things don't get overwritten. Only the 4th option changes, unlike the first where everything would and you'd often get bricked characters.
So what you're saying is...don't play the first
@@RetroWarsuk SaGa1 is short enough and historically significant enough to warrant a play through I feel. Its much better than FF2 for sure. That said, for you I'd recommend skipping it and maybe looking at SaGa3. It wasnt designed by Kawazu, and functions a lot more like a standard JRPG.
Akitoshi Kawazu is a nutter. The systems he designed for the SaGa games are absolutely mental.
I swear, I wonder what powder was available to him
Playing it right now; one of my childhood favorites. Introduced me to, what unbeknownst at the time, the Saga franchise.
Please tell me if I was doing it right
@RetroWarsuk you did it with flare ;)
@sirdro1339 my sir, you bow to no-one
I loved this game so much
@@wickedgrinaz I hope I did the game justice
This was by far my favorite JRPG for so long. I replayed it at least once every year for years
@@jackiespaceman im like that with ff7. Sorry if pooped on your childhood
This was one of my favorite games as a kid. However, I can easily understand how someone could hate it. It doesn't hurt that I loved the music back then and still like it now. Nice review.
This was really formative for me - my first owned square soft rpg. I played “FF2” for the snes at my friend’s house and needed a FF game asap, but all I had was the gameboy. This was a much better gameboy game than it needed to be.
@@BrendanGill I feel sometimes when I make these videos/podcasts that I poop on people's memories
My first successful party when I was a kid, that I beat the game with, was 2 humans & 2 mutants.
Also for robots, the max weapons can recover to is 50% always rounded down to the nearest integer of the number of uses left at the time you equip it to the robot. And the 50% reduction is applied every time you equip or unequip the weapon to the robot. This, for example, means the ridiculously powerful one-use Glass sword cannot be used by robots and you would waste it be equipping it to one.
Mutants are OP. A party of four Mutants is easy mode
I was in love with my robot for ages
This is probably the most charming and fun Saga game. It's not so brutal that it actually allows you to have fun with its quirky, obtuse progression systems without needing to read a guide beforehand lest you end up hitting a brick wall.
I loved it when it came out. I wish it would get remade.
@@gamingtheologian8515 well the romancing saga games got remade. So why not
@@RetroWarsuk I just bought Romancing Saga 3 for sale on the Switch. Plan to start it after finishing Persona 5 Royal
@ApologiaNick my back log hates me
Damn! That snipe at poor mew lol
It is a thing of evil
This was the first Squaresoft RPG I played because I got it and Final Fantasy I the same day but mom and I were about to go visit her family in another state so I put Final Fantasy I off until I got home. Its easily my favorite of the first three turn based JRPGs I owned (Dragon Quest/Warrior II, Final Fantasy I, and Saga/Final Fantasy Legend II) its easily my favorite. I love the Human and Mutant ability growth systems but I rarely use Monsters. I usually go either two Humans, one Mutant and one Robot or one Human, two Mutants, and one Robot.
@@roguerifter9724 I would be crying for dragon quest 1 lol
@@RetroWarsuk I never liked Dragon Quest I. I started playing PC RPGs at dad's oldest friends house when I was very young so Dragon Quest I was far too simple for me to have much fun with. 1 versus 1 battles with incredibly limited tactical control, a single party member and class system or any reasonable way to determine or influence his stat growth beyond how high a level you reached didn't impress me though I became more forgiving as I grew older and accepted it wasn't meant for players like me it was meant for someone completely new to RPGs. Dragon Quest II wasn't great but it was such an improvement over the first game I was willing to cut it some slack. III was the first great game in the series IMO.
Honestly even if this game doesn't care to elaborate on its systems like mutant skill learning and the early, early megami tensei demon fusion-esque monster system, among a host of other problems, there's something about these janky game boy rpgs that has a lot of charm for me
Yeh maybe I would have liked it more if I wasn't on so much of a time crunch for the podcast
In all the saga games its the monster meat that kills me every time
Oh yes, found out the same in saga frontier
Freaking love it
I feel I just insulted everyone's childhood
Great way of describing how to deal with "groups" 😂😂
@@originalsleepyjon I swear I thought long and hard about it
As a kid, I was tricked into renting this game, thinking it's a Final Fantasy game : (
No one understands "Unlimited Saga". I stopped playing it.
I even stopped playing the first 'Saga Frontier' because of how HP versus life points was working and there is just too many obtuse systems.
It's like the dev team thought. 'more ... MORE.... MORE!!!!' and.. no one told them this was a bad idea. Like rules from the top down cocking up the work floor because the boss thought it was a good change.
I never liked the final fantasy legend games. I tried them and put them down right away.
I think they are a very acquired taste
Played the game before i could read, i did not get far lol
@@TheInverseable try and play batman forever...I can read and I did not get far
As someone who has Age Regression... it's ok... to be immature.
@@EonEsper-Kriz have a listen to the podcast then.....it's even more immature