@@AbandonedStevewhy are we keeping the queen mary and putting or tax dollars in it instead of uss united states. That ship needs to go back to England so they can put their own money into it. Thank you for the last tour of that beautiful ship. I will never go see the queen mary.
@@MultiBaseball1010 and were do think it's coming from. Our taxes and like l said we should have put it in to our own ship the USS United States. We got stuck with the queen mary. It should be in England and let them take responsibility for it.
Thank you for making this video. I have always been curious what she looked like inside. This ship brought me to the U.S. from Germany with my parents in 1968 when I was 1 year old. I took them to say our goodbyes 2 weeks ago. It was an emotional day. She deserves so much better. Farewell Grand Dame of the Sea! 😢
All that engineering. All that work. All that History. And all of it soon to be lost to time. Its amazing how all these men & women made this possible, and now? Just a footnote in our proud history of accomplishments. Rest in peace fine ship.
I remember the first time seeing her docked in Philly. I hadn't known she was there. I was riding my bike on a quiet Sunday up from South Philly and I saw her stacks from a distance and wondered "what the heck is THAT huge thing?". I got excited when I learned it was her because I'd read about her speed record years earlier. I can't imagine seeing this beast doing almost 50mph!
Thank you Steve for recording the history and magnitude of this great Ocean Liner. During my working career as an Electrician, having worked on 5 Nuclear Power Plants, 3 cogeneration plants , steel mills and other large projects, it is amazing to see the size of this ship and everything that had to be custom made to put her together in a matter of around 2 years. Gibbs and Cox must have had an incredible team of dedicated workers to put it all together. It’s hard for so many to not understand what has to be put together from the bottom-up. A perfect balance of design, engineering and construction expertise. Just an amazing ship. I was in the Navy assigned to a repair ship, single screw, and nowhere near the complexity as the Big U. You did a great service to record the video. As with others that have done similar videos, perhaps all of you should get together to do a full compilation of all your best works, in memory of such a great ship. We are going to try and see her from a distance before she leaves. Thank you again, many times over. Dave
Hi from Hampshire, England - I'm so sad to learn that United States' life is coming to an end, but also relieved, because a ship of her immense beauty deserved so much better than to rot slowly over three decades as she disappeared, day by day, into the mists of time; and she certainly deserved much more than to be torn to pieces by the welder's torch. This will be the tribute, and the send-off, that has long been overdue her. Rather like having an elderly relative who for years cannot do anything they used to love, or gain any enjoyment from being here - there is a point at which living becomes simply existing. She deserved so much more than that. Now, she has been granted the only appropriate farewell: to go out, proudly facing the oceans she graced so well for so long, on her own terms. The epitome, as ever she was, of all that is great about your great - though broken - nation.
Having sailed on the SS United States in 1961 as a boy, my heart is hurting for the ship...part of me is dying too..... and while I would have loved to see her saved, I'm actually getting used to the idea of her being sunk as a reef. It is sort of a funeral, if you will, in a glass coffin. This may bring her more recognition and admiration than she has had since her glory days. .. and I like the idea of her Seaside Museum to give her continual due respect and keep her memory alive. - Greg T in California
Thanks so much for sharing the story. I like hearing from people that actually did take the trip on her. It's going to suck seeing her go down but you're right, I think it's better than the scrap yard
Yes and no. There is no way this could go back to sea, and it has an asbestos problem after they paid to have it cleaned years ago. It is also a specialty ship. The machinery is a bit classified, and no one who can fix it is really around anymore. I wish it could be done differently, like by accident, thinking about the Sapona in Bimini Bahamas. Not sunk, still a destination. To bad can't add a photo.
The US, mostly due to avoiding economic ruin after the world wars, has been pretty good at keeping ships intact. United States is more an exception than the rule since poor timing and ending up with bad owners that gutted her killed the hopes of preservation.
Thank you for making a final tour of the ship. Cause I was going to make a tour video of the ship, but now, next time I see the ship and make a video about it will be underwater off Florida. For the SS United States: thank you for the memories.
Interesting to hear about the asbestos abatement. You better believe there is a metric ton of dust left behind. Seeing their brooms left behind makes me feel for those workers.
Worked at Whitman's Chocolates when liers finally admitted the concrete ceiling fire spray did have asbestos. Took a company longer to set up portable shower & plastic walls then to remove asbestos. Retired from a large hospital that was built in early 1960's and every time they renovated an area a company first had to come in & identify where asbestos was then had asbestos removed. Both companies hired an approved asbestos testing company to take air samples and wipe some areas and bag it for asbestos testing. After the all clear was announced contractors could then start demo. Therefore doubt if much asbestos is still on this rust bucket. Every old 9 by 9" floor titled contain asbestos along with over a thousand other products.
@@JohnThomas-lq5qp yes I understand abatement but this ship was specifically cleaned by subpar workers being paid cents. So I’d imagine they would have just done the quickest job possible.
I doubt they will bother to much cleaning of asbestos or lead paint, why would they when the U.S. military dumped chemical weapons, including nerve gas, off the coast of South Carolina in the 1970s: The tally is including: 8,050 tons of poisonous gas bombs and mines 1,507 1-ton containers of lewisite, an arsenic compound similar to mustard gas 63, 1-ton containers of nitrogen mustard More than 20 tons of mustard gas bombs, projectiles, mines, and bulk containers In 1970, the U.S. sunk the LeBaron Russell Briggs, a Liberty ship carrying 12,540 rockets of sarin nerve gas and one container of VX nerve gas, 283 miles off Cape Canaveral From 1964 to the early 1970s, the U.S. Department of Defense's Operation CHASE involved loading munitions onto ships and scuttling them 250 miles offshore." All that stuff is STILL sitting in containers that are rotting away after the now 50+ years in the ocean, some has wound up caught in fisherman's nets and washed ashore; A clam-dredging operation off the coast of New Jersey last summer pulled up an old artillery shell. The long-submerged, World War I-era explosive was filled with a black, tarlike substance. Bomb-disposal technicians from Dover Air Force Base in Delaware were brought in to dismantle it. Three of them were injured, one hospitalized with large, pus-filled blisters on his arm and hand. The shell was filled with mustard gas in solid form. What was long feared by the few military officials in the know had come to pass: Chemical weapons that the Army dumped at sea decades ago had finally ended up on shore in the United States. While it has long been known that some chemical weapons went into the ocean, records obtained by the Daily Press show that the previously classified weapons-dumping program was more extensive than has ever been suspected. The Army now admits it secretly dumped 64 million pounds of nerve- and mustard-gas agent into the sea, along with 400,000 chemical-filled bombs, landmines and rockets and more than 500 tons of radioactive waste either tossed overboard or packed into the holds of scuttled vessels. A Daily Press investigation also found: These weapons of mass destruction nearly ring the country, concealed off the coast of at least 11 states - six on the East Coast, two on the Gulf Coast, California, Hawaii and Alaska. Few state officials have been informed of their existence. The chemical agents will pose a hazard for generations. The Army has examined only a few of its 26 dump zones, none in the past 30 years. The Army can’t say where all the weapons were dumped from World War II to 1970. Army records are sketchy, missing or destroyed. More dumpsites likely exist. The Army hasn’t reviewed WWI-era records, when ocean dumping of chemical weapons was common. “We do not know where they all are,” said William Brankowitz, a deputy project manager in the U.S. Army Chemical Materials Agency and an authority on the Army’s chemical-weapons dumping. “We don’t want to be cavalier at all and say this stuff was exposed to water and is OK. It can last for a very, very long time.” A drop of nerve agent can kill within a minute. When released in the ocean, it lasts up to six weeks, killing every organism it touches before breaking down into its chemical components. Mustard gas can be fatal. When exposed to seawater, it forms a concentrated, encrusted gel that lasts for years, rolling around on the ocean floor, killing or contaminating sea life. Sea-dumped chemical weapons may be slowly leaking from decades of saltwater corrosion, resulting in a time-delayed release of deadly chemicals during the next 100 years and an unforeseeable environmental impact. Steel corrodes at different rates, depending on the water depth, ocean temperature and thickness of the shells." So a little lead paint won't make any difference...
It speaks to our state of mind when people spend millions of dollars to go see and think of ways to presrve a ship that hit an iceberg and sank over 100 years ago but they can't find the money to save one that still floats. SMH
It feels like as if both the ship & our country are sinking."Gentlemen,it has been a privilage playing with you tonight"-(somberly starts playing Nearer,My God,To Thee)
This is a great video. I remember when they “parked” her in south Philly. I always wanted to see more of her. Looks like it was a pretty cool experience. I’d get dizzy in that crows nest.
Thanks for sharing this. I have been there a few times over the years to get some pictures and hang out in Philly since I only lived two hours away. I never got to tour it though and really appreciate your time and footage!
My husband mother traveled on this ship from Germany to America. She made her new life in USA and before she past away she told me stories about her travels. I was able to find the passenger list with her name on it. Told her what I found. She recalled at 90 how sea sick she was. She asked me if the nurse name was listed and It was. She had story after story to share with me and my husband.
Truth be told, it would cost more in labor and supplies (rigging, electricity, acetylene, oxygen, hauling, etc) to cut it up for scrap then you would get in return.
Great video steve. Thank you for sharing this. I seen her last weekend and the news of her future is very sad. Unfortunately the money just never came together. Rest in peace Big U. You will be missed
I've been a supporter and have followed what would become of the ship, I'm still hoping that someone will step in, to be honest I'd rather see it scraped rather than sunk as there will now ALWAYS be an existing sad reminder of the ships end. And yes, this ship is now a metaphor for the state of our country. I think of Kensington in Philly not far away.
@@AustinWilsonGlass Yep the salt will just destroy it make it beyond salvaging I can just see 100 years from now people will consider raising it and wonder why they did that.
@@rays744 That is essentially what happened to the SS Great Britain. She was scuttled in 1937 only to be raised and restored (at massive expense) 33 years later in 1970.
Theres nothing left to make her run. The engines are dismantled, steam tanks are gone, no electronics. Poor girl is just a cadaver now. At least as a reef, she will have some dignity
I wish some major modeling manufacturer would get out to her and get deminsions and details to give us an updated kit from this century. It would be nice to get this ship in 1/350 scale, or even a 1/200 scale from Trumpeter.
I still cannot believe that a country as big and powerful as the USA will allow it's most remarkable maritime history legend to simply be sunk and lost forever... Incredible careless... I pity the USA.
Only in America do we treat our past like this. Such a marvel and because of a greedy slumlord it’s going to be essentially lost. Whatever part of late stage capitalism this is, is cancer.
Nobody cared about this ship until 2 months ago. The time to save her was about 30 years ago when her interiors were being stripped. Nobody cared then.
It probably is impossible, and not end well if it happened, but it would be wild to find she broke free one night and drifted far out to sea before anyone figured it out. One last taste of freedom.
Sad but I’ve always said that from when it had the interiors stripped that was the point at which future use became pie in the sky and the long slow death rattle began. Hopefully when they sink it it will land upright like USS Oriskany for example because if it turns upside down that would be the final indignity and make it useless as a dive site.
thanks steve , fantastic video , i always wondered why the railing was damaged , i wonder whats goin to happen to the last prop , so they are removing the stacks wow
Probably for the best to remove the stacks, I speculate it's to change her center of gravity so she stays even keel when sinking. Also allows her to be sunk in a shallower depth, so a novice can explore her. As well as gives us something that can be restored for future generations.
Thank you. I been hearing things about marine life don't like vertical large objects or something but it's probably to put it in shallow water. The say the depth of the water will be 180 feet. The entire ship is 175 from bottom to stack top. Removing that will give it probably 30-40 feet of more water
@@AbandonedSteve oh I see then it won’t be a hazard I’m wondering how hurricanes will affect it , but it’s too bad it is in the condition it’s in at least it won’t be turned into Pepsi cans , but a rather sad chapter of the Big U , thanks again 👍
As a danish guy, I love the S.S United states, She is a ship i always wanted to visit, Guess ill have to remove her from my bucket list, Only the queen mary to go then.
i'm an antique dealer, and ya just can't save everything,, what's sad is that even the idea of making it back to what it was, everyone is too busy booking cruises on floating buildings to do shopping on, rather than enjoying their vacation or just an elbow room cruise.
Imagine what the builders of this great ship would think if you told them that only a few years down the road their ship would be sunk by its own county they named it after
Sunk as a reef! Isn't that dignified for the largest and fastest ship built in our country? If she can't be saved, it would be better for her to be scrapped. We would at least have dignified pictures of her remaining to remember her. (Somebody is profiting big time from the sale of the ship to Florida!)
C'est véritablement un crève cœur de voir cela le fleuron américain laissé à l'abandon depuis tant d'années un si beau navire le plus rapide des paquebots de tous les temps n'est plus qu'un corp rouillé déshonoré par sa patrie sera bientôt la fin pour lui alors que le pays à su préserver le Queen Mary certes une légende tout comme l' United states pourquoi pas lui un pur produit américain.
It’s a shame the conservancy seemed to be more interested in ridiculous plans with corporations for profit like turning her into a cruise ship or a hotel/casino than they were about actually preserving what was left on the ship. They should have bought their own pier or taken up an offer for a free pier, instead of making deals that feel apart but even if they were successful would have torn apart the engine rooms and boilers. Goal should have been to make her a museum not a conference center. In my opinion Susan Gibbs got away with doing nothing for the ship and wasting millions of dollars because of who her grandfather is. What a failure!
I would have loved the Ship to have been saved but with so many expensive government regs and the realistic cost to make the Ship a worth wild attraction. Sinking her is much better than scraping her. She will go on for hundreds of years at the bottom of the Gulf. There's so much money out there but not enough people with the money that are sentimental enough to vrack open their wallets. *It's always sad to loose a valuable piece of American History🇺🇸*
When Crystal Cruise Lines was interested, they did a study, and they found out that it would need a ton of improvements to meet today's standards. It would also have to be dry docked once a year to be inspected. They backed out.
Wonder what sort of checks they will have during the move as far as the ship springing a leak? Presumably the water tight compartments have been sealed
@@AbandonedSteveif you’d like to see what that engine sounds like running, look up USS Slater here on TH-cam. We have one in running condition. Exact same model. The engine you show here was a surplus model sold from Cleveland Diesel. The other was a newly built unit. Serial numbers match the original order forms from 1951.
I would say that she's worth saving for future generations, but all they are interested in these days is TikTok and Onlyfans. An absolute tragedy that this ship has just been left to decay. Surely that beautiful backup gyro can't be allowed to end up at the bottom of the ocean??
Are they going to save that last prop or is it going down with it? I hope they save it, I believe the other 3 were restored and are on display at various locations.
@@pozspeakerau The rumor is that next week they're moving her but again that's a rumor. When it comes time for sinking, I'm sure there'll be tons of coverage. Fortunately I won't be there as that's going to be too much of a hike from where I live
I imagine how people must have taken pleasure to break everything they could get their hands on. No respect for history. I now understand why it would cost so much to retrofit her. It is a great shame not having kept her in decent shape when she was retired. It is very sad to see the SS United States in that condition.
What a waste i worked at the naval base in Philadelphia when she came here so wish some of the famous people that went on cruises on her would step up to save her it's like a living machine and should be saved so sad it's a ship not a under water amusement park 😢
My whole channel shows it all. Old historical homes, abandoned, decaying, falling apart, demolished. That is just how we do things here in America. Sad
It is sad to see it go, but in all honesty, no matter what avenue is taken to restore it, it's just not practical and would cost an absorbant amount of money.
The government has enough cash to subsidize sports stadiums and other random crap but not enough to at least get the nation’s former flagship into a stable port and cleaned up for a future restoration or repurposing. Mighty shame but at least the scrappers didn’t get her
Yeah thanks Dave for the final tour of the SS United States I watched all your other ones years back and then you quit exploring so I didn't know what happened to you but glad you did this last one this is important and historical kind of. I agree I hate to see it being sunk but it is better than scrapping her but I guess there's a lot of things I don't understand about this after she retired why did they all the sudden just decide to send it to Ukraine to have all the asbestos removed I mean why would you tow her that far just to do that there had to been something else in mind. And then looking at the state of the engine room being kind of torn apart why was that done since the Navy was involved I'm sure they had some saying in it because of the top secret stuff that was in it but that was a long time ago that stuff is all outdated stuff now. But again Steve thanks for the video I enjoyed it very much. PS how come you don't do videos anymore?
Thanks for watching. All very good questions. Unfortunately I can only guess the answers but I'm sure it went to Ukraine as it was a much cheaper abatement. The entire ship was asbestos so that would be my only guess. As for the engine room and other components, I'm sure the US Navy pulled some stuff before it got sent over there
I was really hoping a rich tycoon would purchase this old ship. That she would be saved, restored and turned into a hotel like the Queen Mary or maybe a museum fashioned and furnished like the era this magnificent vessel was built. Is sad what is currently going to be the end for this ship.
I just...I don't get society anymore. You've got all these retired ships an boats...from fishing to old coast guard boats an whatever else.............an we sink the one ship that just happens to be a historical treasure. Seriously?!!!!!!
The are probably planning to do it after some significant event to have the optics of the ship sinking as the rest of the country is gutted. One thing for sure is there is a fight against saving anything to do with this country’s history.
Problem is we build BIG, very big, we made the same mistake with churches, building massive buildings that could seat 1,000, 2000 people or more, and now maybe 50 or 100 go any more, the building falling apart and needing a million dollars worth of repairs and the 50-100 members don't have it, so the building gets abandoned, vandalized, set on fire and ultimately the CITY is stuck with with a building the taxpayers have to pay to demolish, and landfill. This ship sat rotting at the pier for 30 years, the pier owner got tired of seeing an eyesore rotting away and rightfully said DO something with it or MOVE IT out!
I'll hold out hope until the end, until this masterpiece of engineering slips beneath the surface to her final fate. Yes, this is a more dignified end than to be scrapped, but still 😔. With all the other foolish, temporary things the uber rich throw their money away on, all the while proclaiming their "patriotism", one would think preserving the flagship 🇺🇸 🚢 of this nation would be an obvious priority. Just imagine the patriotic boast 😤, if nothing else, they could've had after doing so. But, widgets and sh*t mean more. I knew her end had to eventually come from the way things were going for so long. Still, I'll cling to the hope for a miracle 🙏 until the final end. On that day, I hope she receives all the pomp, publicity, due ceremony, and dignity she truly deserves. Thank you for giving her that dignity in this video. SAVE THE UNITED STATES ! It's not quite over yet, not while she floats 🚢
There is someone in New York that wants to try and take ownership of it, but Okaloosa County is saying it's too late. Not sure where this person was 6 months ago.
This ship is a legend. To sink her is an insult. To her and her crew and all who sailed on her...the company who decided this are idiots...her speed record to this date has not been beat that I'm aware of.
Too bad for this grand lady. Maybe if they had not completely stripped her of all her interiors, it would have been worth the huge amount of $$$ it would have cost to make her into something profitable once more. Look at all the near death experiences the Queen Mary faced sitting in Long Beach. I get it, asbestos.
It's a crying shame to see this magnificent ship being sunk like garbage. It is still sound looking after all these decades. I wonder how much of the oils and plastic and rubber can be removed before it is sunk? Looks like a bit of a pollution for the ocean to me, with the rest of the paint and chemicals.
I agree and we'll see. It's supposed to spend a year in Virginia being prepped but there's a lot of stuff and space on that ship. I think it'd be a miracle if they got every square inch
Sad that this is going to be the fate of such a famous ship, but being that nearly everything was stripped out of the ship, including all equipment in the wheelhouse, I had a feeling it was ultimately going to become an artificial reef. I imagine restoring it to seaworthiness would be far too expensive. May it's history live on in the bottom of the ocean!
@@AbandonedSteve Interesting, thanks for sharing! Would that be including converting the ship into a diesel propelled engine or is that assuming they would try to restore the steam engines? Not that it matters at this point, but you know...curiosity.
Yes that includes converting its power to modern engines. The boilers have been cut up so they would not be able to re use anything. Crystal Cruise lines were the ones interested. They did a study on it but from what I was told, it would need some major updates to follow today's new Maritime rules. The bridge is too low so they would need to raise that. Also since it has rivets, the US Coast Guard said that they would have to dry dock it every year to be inspected. They didn't want to lose a month every year and just backed out. It would cost more to fix her than to build new. The only thing that was feasible was some type of Attraction but even that no one wanted to take on the project. It sucks
@@johncanetta6708 a lot of the instruments were removed. The US Navy had part in the funding and top secret stuff was installed on that ship. Not saying anything in the bridge was but electronics were removed before it went to Ukraine. Same with the furnishings, they were auctioned off in the late 80s
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Such a visual representation of what our country and society has become.
I agree
@@AbandonedStevewhy are we keeping the queen mary and putting or tax dollars in it instead of uss united states. That ship needs to go back to England so they can put their own money into it. Thank you for the last tour of that beautiful ship. I will never go see the queen mary.
USA is gone... I pity it.
@@tinydog34Because it’s owned by Long Beach so they’re putting their money into it, not yours.
@@MultiBaseball1010 and were do think it's coming from. Our taxes and like l said we should have put it in to our own ship the USS United States. We got stuck with the queen mary. It should be in England and let them take responsibility for it.
That's so sad. For many years I've wanted to see it in person when I go to America...
I know. it sucks. Hopefully the video gave you a glimpse
Well, go diving in Florida…
@@ryanthompson2893your mean man, you can’t just tell somebody to go diving in Florida he wanted to see the ss United States! Not Florida!
Thank you for making this video. I have always been curious what she looked like inside. This ship brought me to the U.S. from Germany with my parents in 1968 when I was 1 year old. I took them to say our goodbyes 2 weeks ago. It was an emotional day. She deserves so much better. Farewell Grand Dame of the Sea! 😢
I'm glad you could get to see her one last time.
The amount of work that had went into just the engine room !!!!
oh yes I couldn't imagine designing it.
All that engineering. All that work. All that History. And all of it soon to be lost to time.
Its amazing how all these men & women made this possible, and now? Just a footnote in our proud history of accomplishments.
Rest in peace fine ship.
Yep. History in this country is alive but a lot more is lost. It stinks.
I remember the first time seeing her docked in Philly. I hadn't known she was there. I was riding my bike on a quiet Sunday up from South Philly and I saw her stacks from a distance and wondered "what the heck is THAT huge thing?". I got excited when I learned it was her because I'd read about her speed record years earlier. I can't imagine seeing this beast doing almost 50mph!
It is hard to imagine a ship that big moving that fast.
Thank you Steve for recording the history and magnitude of this great Ocean Liner.
During my working career as an Electrician, having worked on 5 Nuclear Power Plants, 3 cogeneration plants , steel mills and other large projects, it is amazing to see the size of this ship and everything that had to be custom made to put her together in a matter of around 2 years. Gibbs and Cox must have had an incredible team of dedicated workers to put it all together.
It’s hard for so many to not understand what has to be put together from the bottom-up. A perfect balance of design, engineering and construction expertise. Just an amazing ship.
I was in the Navy assigned to a repair ship, single screw, and nowhere near the complexity as the Big U.
You did a great service to record the video. As with others that have done similar videos, perhaps all of you should get together to do a full compilation of all your best works, in memory of such a great ship.
We are going to try and see her from a distance before she leaves.
Thank you again, many times over.
Dave
Thanks for the kind words, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Hi from Hampshire, England - I'm so sad to learn that United States' life is coming to an end, but also relieved, because a ship of her immense beauty deserved so much better than to rot slowly over three decades as she disappeared, day by day, into the mists of time; and she certainly deserved much more than to be torn to pieces by the welder's torch. This will be the tribute, and the send-off, that has long been overdue her. Rather like having an elderly relative who for years cannot do anything they used to love, or gain any enjoyment from being here - there is a point at which living becomes simply existing. She deserved so much more than that. Now, she has been granted the only appropriate farewell: to go out, proudly facing the oceans she graced so well for so long, on her own terms. The epitome, as ever she was, of all that is great about your great - though broken - nation.
Having sailed on the SS United States in 1961 as a boy, my heart is hurting for the ship...part of me is dying too..... and while I would have loved to see her saved, I'm actually getting used to the idea of her being sunk as a reef. It is sort of a funeral, if you will, in a glass coffin. This may bring her more recognition and admiration than she has had since her glory days. .. and I like the idea of her Seaside Museum to give her continual due respect and keep her memory alive. - Greg T in California
Thanks so much for sharing the story. I like hearing from people that actually did take the trip on her. It's going to suck seeing her go down but you're right, I think it's better than the scrap yard
It is so sad to see what has happened to preservation in this country.
Yes and no. There is no way this could go back to sea, and it has an asbestos problem after they paid to have it cleaned years ago. It is also a specialty ship. The machinery is a bit classified, and no one who can fix it is really around anymore. I wish it could be done differently, like by accident, thinking about the Sapona in Bimini Bahamas. Not sunk, still a destination. To bad can't add a photo.
The US, mostly due to avoiding economic ruin after the world wars, has been pretty good at keeping ships intact. United States is more an exception than the rule since poor timing and ending up with bad owners that gutted her killed the hopes of preservation.
Rest in peace old girl SS United States rest in peace
Thank you for making a final tour of the ship. Cause I was going to make a tour video of the ship, but now, next time I see the ship and make a video about it will be underwater off Florida. For the SS United States: thank you for the memories.
You're welcome. I'm glad you got to see her before she went.
@@AbandonedSteve yeah, last time I saw her was in 2022.
Interesting to hear about the asbestos abatement. You better believe there is a metric ton of dust left behind. Seeing their brooms left behind makes me feel for those workers.
@@tjnucnuc I know. I can only wonder how many of them escaped harming themself
Worked at Whitman's Chocolates when liers finally admitted the concrete ceiling fire spray did have asbestos. Took a company longer to set up portable shower & plastic walls then to remove asbestos. Retired from a large hospital that was built in early 1960's and every time they renovated an area a company first had to come in & identify where asbestos was then had asbestos removed. Both companies hired an approved asbestos testing company to take air samples and wipe some areas and bag it for asbestos testing. After the all clear was announced contractors could then start demo. Therefore doubt if much asbestos is still on this rust bucket. Every old 9 by 9" floor titled contain asbestos along with over a thousand other products.
@@JohnThomas-lq5qp yes I understand abatement but this ship was specifically cleaned by subpar workers being paid cents. So I’d imagine they would have just done the quickest job possible.
I doubt they will bother to much cleaning of asbestos or lead paint, why would they when
the U.S. military dumped chemical weapons, including nerve gas, off the coast of South Carolina in the 1970s:
The tally is including:
8,050 tons of poisonous gas bombs and mines
1,507 1-ton containers of lewisite, an arsenic compound similar to mustard gas
63, 1-ton containers of nitrogen mustard
More than 20 tons of mustard gas bombs, projectiles, mines, and bulk containers
In 1970, the U.S. sunk the LeBaron Russell Briggs, a Liberty ship carrying 12,540 rockets of sarin nerve gas and one container of VX nerve gas, 283 miles off Cape Canaveral
From 1964 to the early 1970s, the U.S. Department of Defense's Operation CHASE involved loading munitions onto ships and scuttling them 250 miles offshore."
All that stuff is STILL sitting in containers that are rotting away after the now 50+ years in the ocean, some has wound up caught in fisherman's nets and washed ashore;
A clam-dredging operation off the coast of New Jersey last summer pulled up an old artillery shell.
The long-submerged, World War I-era explosive was filled with a black, tarlike substance.
Bomb-disposal technicians from Dover Air Force Base in Delaware were brought in to dismantle it. Three of them were injured, one hospitalized with large, pus-filled blisters on his arm and hand.
The shell was filled with mustard gas in solid form.
What was long feared by the few military officials in the know had come to pass: Chemical weapons that the Army dumped at sea decades ago had finally ended up on shore in the United States.
While it has long been known that some chemical weapons went into the ocean, records obtained by the Daily Press show that the previously classified weapons-dumping program was more extensive than has ever been suspected.
The Army now admits it secretly dumped 64 million pounds of nerve- and mustard-gas agent into the sea, along with 400,000 chemical-filled bombs, landmines and rockets and more than 500 tons of radioactive waste either tossed overboard or packed into the holds of scuttled vessels.
A Daily Press investigation also found:
These weapons of mass destruction nearly ring the country, concealed off the coast of at least 11 states - six on the East Coast, two on the Gulf Coast, California, Hawaii and Alaska. Few state officials have been informed of their existence.
The chemical agents will pose a hazard for generations. The Army has examined only a few of its 26 dump zones, none in the past 30 years.
The Army can’t say where all the weapons were dumped from World War II to 1970. Army records are sketchy, missing or destroyed.
More dumpsites likely exist. The Army hasn’t reviewed WWI-era records, when ocean dumping of chemical weapons was common.
“We do not know where they all are,” said William Brankowitz, a deputy project manager in the U.S. Army Chemical Materials Agency and an authority on the Army’s chemical-weapons dumping.
“We don’t want to be cavalier at all and say this stuff was exposed to water and is OK. It can last for a very, very long time.”
A drop of nerve agent can kill within a minute. When released in the ocean, it lasts up to six weeks, killing every organism it touches before breaking down into its chemical components.
Mustard gas can be fatal. When exposed to seawater, it forms a concentrated, encrusted gel that lasts for years, rolling around on the ocean floor, killing or contaminating sea life.
Sea-dumped chemical weapons may be slowly leaking from decades of saltwater corrosion, resulting in a time-delayed release of deadly chemicals during the next 100 years and an unforeseeable environmental impact. Steel corrodes at different rates, depending on the water depth, ocean temperature and thickness of the shells."
So a little lead paint won't make any difference...
It speaks to our state of mind when people spend millions of dollars to go see and think of ways to presrve a ship that hit an iceberg and sank over 100 years ago but they can't find the money to save one that still floats. SMH
Ain't that some shit
Wow! I’m so happy that you did this video. Thank you Steve for the opportunity to see it again before it’s sank. I give 10 thumbs up on this video!!
I am glad you enjoyed the video.
Wow what a view beautiful 22:07
It feels like as if both the ship & our country are sinking."Gentlemen,it has been a privilage playing with you tonight"-(somberly starts playing Nearer,My God,To Thee)
This is a great video. I remember when they “parked” her in south Philly. I always wanted to see more of her. Looks like it was a pretty cool experience. I’d get dizzy in that crows nest.
Thanks so much. The crow's nest was awesome but scary as it was shaking with the wind.
Thank you for this video!
@@AaronExplores757 no problem. Thanks for watching
21:55
OH, NOOOO! 😱
As someone who's terrified of heights, this is not just a "No" but a "Heck No"!
It was windy
Great vid,very well done sir.
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing this. I have been there a few times over the years to get some pictures and hang out in Philly since I only lived two hours away. I never got to tour it though and really appreciate your time and footage!
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
My husband mother traveled on this ship from Germany to America. She made her new life in USA and before she past away she told me stories about her travels. I was able to find the passenger list with her name on it. Told her what I found. She recalled at 90 how sea sick she was. She asked me if the nurse name was listed and It was. She had story after story to share with me and my husband.
That is awesome. Thanks so much for sharing that with me. I wish I could be there to see what this ship was about in its heyday.
Ils devraient le restaurer et le remettre en activité pour une qualité de voyage un peux comme autres fois ce serait magnifique🤩
I agree
Sad to see, this amazing piece of history is not been saved and preserved for other to visit.
@@richardwright1673 yea it has had a rough time for sure. Sucks to see it go
It’ll be a shame to see her go, but I agree, this is better than scrapping.
Yes it is. Thanks for watching
Truth be told, it would cost more in labor and supplies (rigging, electricity, acetylene, oxygen, hauling, etc) to cut it up for scrap then you would get in return.
Great video steve. Thank you for sharing this. I seen her last weekend and the news of her future is very sad. Unfortunately the money just never came together. Rest in peace Big U. You will be missed
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! It's a shame it had to end this way.
Great video 💯💯💯
@@mike.4277 thank you
I've been a supporter and have followed what would become of the ship, I'm still hoping that someone will step in, to be honest I'd rather see it scraped rather than sunk as there will now ALWAYS be an existing sad reminder of the ships end. And yes, this ship is now a metaphor for the state of our country. I think of Kensington in Philly not far away.
Yea I think that hope is gone. It has been in the news as soon as that judge said you have 90 days to find a new home.
smarter to scrap it. the metal live on a new life. sinking it is a complete waste of the metal
@@AustinWilsonGlass Yep the salt will just destroy it make it beyond salvaging I can just see 100 years from now people will consider raising it and wonder why they did that.
@@rays744 That is essentially what happened to the SS Great Britain. She was scuttled in 1937 only to be raised and restored (at massive expense) 33 years later in 1970.
All the money they spend to make Stupid movies that stink, and they could not save her. Breaks my heart. So much history here, nice video . Thanks
Yeah like the new joker movie
Theres nothing left to make her run. The engines are dismantled, steam tanks are gone, no electronics. Poor girl is just a cadaver now. At least as a reef, she will have some dignity
yep. If she was to run again, it wouldn't be under her current power.
I wish some major modeling manufacturer would get out to her and get deminsions and details to give us an updated kit from this century. It would be nice to get this ship in 1/350 scale, or even a 1/200 scale from Trumpeter.
@@Fallschirmfuchs there are efforts going on to document it as well as possible before she’s sunk.
Well done.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Absolutely SAD!
Where are the world's billionaire playboy ship enthusiasts???🤷
It's sad just to let it rot away
I still cannot believe that a country as big and powerful as the USA will allow it's most remarkable maritime history legend to simply be sunk and lost forever... Incredible careless... I pity the USA.
They care about other things
@@AbandonedSteve Unfortunately
Keep voting liberal that seems to be working...
Maybe President Trump can do something 🤔
Only in America do we treat our past like this. Such a marvel and because of a greedy slumlord it’s going to be essentially lost. Whatever part of late stage capitalism this is, is cancer.
I agree
This is called your boy Biden sending billions of dollars to Ukraine when this ship could have been preserved.
Nobody cared about this ship until 2 months ago. The time to save her was about 30 years ago when her interiors were being stripped. Nobody cared then.
@@F-Man that is my point. Guess I’m in the minority. I see a 30 year old 727 and think it should be in a museum..
In the end, it’s a boat lol
It probably is impossible, and not end well if it happened, but it would be wild to find she broke free one night and drifted far out to sea before anyone figured it out. One last taste of freedom.
@@thatchwhistle true ghost ship
This is such a shame. I’ve seen it once up close back in 2016
Yeah, pictures don't do any justice. It's an amazing ship to see in person
Sad but I’ve always said that from when it had the interiors stripped that was the point at which future use became pie in the sky and the long slow death rattle began. Hopefully when they sink it it will land upright like USS Oriskany for example because if it turns upside down that would be the final indignity and make it useless as a dive site.
Didn't think of that. They said the water is only going to be 180 feet deep where they plan to sink it. Maybe that helps
thanks steve , fantastic video , i always wondered why the railing was damaged , i wonder whats goin to happen to the last prop , so they are removing the stacks wow
Probably for the best to remove the stacks, I speculate it's to change her center of gravity so she stays even keel when sinking. Also allows her to be sunk in a shallower depth, so a novice can explore her. As well as gives us something that can be restored for future generations.
Thank you. I been hearing things about marine life don't like vertical large objects or something but it's probably to put it in shallow water. The say the depth of the water will be 180 feet. The entire ship is 175 from bottom to stack top. Removing that will give it probably 30-40 feet of more water
@@AbandonedSteve oh I see then it won’t be a hazard I’m wondering how hurricanes will affect it , but it’s too bad it is in the condition it’s in at least it won’t be turned into Pepsi cans , but a rather sad chapter of the Big U , thanks again 👍
@@PlanBProductioninc no problem
Better a riff than a scrapper
As a danish guy, I love the S.S United states, She is a ship i always wanted to visit, Guess ill have to remove her from my bucket list, Only the queen mary to go then.
i'm an antique dealer, and ya just can't save everything,, what's sad is that even the idea of making it back to what it was, everyone is too busy booking cruises on floating buildings to do shopping on, rather than enjoying their vacation or just an elbow room cruise.
Very True. Thanks for the comment
What a travesty
@@farber442 I agree. Thanks for watching
Very sad really it should have been fixed up and used as a museum
had a model of it in mid 70s
Very cool! Did you build it or was it already made?
@@AbandonedSteve built it. it had history pamphlet too
Trillions for wars ... but no money to preserve and restore this piece of American Naval History to her former glory and create a Museum ... Sad
Nope sucks
60K a month or birth fees?
I wonder how much was spent over 30 years.
I permanent dry dock could have been built.
Yep, 60k to keep it there
Talking about being greedy.
Imagine what the builders of this great ship would think if you told them that only a few years down the road their ship would be sunk by its own county they named it after
I am sure they wouldn't be happy nor let it happen
Sunk as a reef! Isn't that dignified for the largest and fastest ship built in our country? If she can't be saved, it would be better for her to be scrapped. We would at least have dignified pictures of her remaining to remember her. (Somebody is profiting big time from the sale of the ship to Florida!)
Thank you for this amazing video, it’ll be a sad moment when she goes down. May I ask what camera did you use to film these videos?
Thank you. It was a Nikon D810 when I filmed it.
I wonder how many people from these tours snuck off some souvenirs
Never know
C'est véritablement un crève cœur de voir cela le fleuron américain laissé à l'abandon depuis tant d'années un si beau navire le plus rapide des paquebots de tous les temps n'est plus qu'un corp rouillé déshonoré par sa patrie sera bientôt la fin pour lui alors que le pays à su préserver le Queen Mary certes une légende tout comme l' United states pourquoi pas lui un pur produit américain.
I think the Queen Mary got saved as it was completed stripped of its insides like the SS United States
Great job Steve !
The ship has a morgue on board ?
Thank you. Yes it does have a morgue. Only two units.
They should at least save one of the funnels. Besides, those are the first things to disappear from a shipwreck.
Both funnels are going to be removed before it goes down. I believe they're saving them or at least one of them
It’s a shame the conservancy seemed to be more interested in ridiculous plans with corporations for profit like turning her into a cruise ship or a hotel/casino than they were about actually preserving what was left on the ship. They should have bought their own pier or taken up an offer for a free pier, instead of making deals that feel apart but even if they were successful would have torn apart the engine rooms and boilers. Goal should have been to make her a museum not a conference center. In my opinion Susan Gibbs got away with doing nothing for the ship and wasting millions of dollars because of who her grandfather is. What a failure!
She was only interested in collecting a pay cheque. From the donated money.
What I wish for Susan Gibbs TH-cam will not allow me to say here. I just hope she likes things VERY hot!
Is there any video of the interior before it was gutted?
I don't personally have anything but I know there might be something on TH-cam
A strange situation, the ship and the country are sinking
You got that right! Its a wonder we even care for our flag!
Thank you Steve. Such a shame. Steve so sad thank you for all your video's and this last one. Will you be there when she taken down below?
@@maryhirsch2909 thanks for watching
I would have loved the Ship to have been saved but with so many expensive government regs and the realistic cost to make the Ship a worth wild attraction. Sinking her is much better than scraping her. She will go on for hundreds of years at the bottom of the Gulf.
There's so much money out there but not enough people with the money that are sentimental enough to vrack open their wallets.
*It's always sad to loose a valuable piece of American History🇺🇸*
When Crystal Cruise Lines was interested, they did a study, and they found out that it would need a ton of improvements to meet today's standards. It would also have to be dry docked once a year to be inspected. They backed out.
Wonder what sort of checks they will have during the move as far as the ship springing a leak? Presumably the water tight compartments have been sealed
Good question. I would hope they got that covered.
I’m intrigued how they will get the ship to a condition that is safe to sink. I see a looming environmental disaster at the moment.
Yeah it's going to be interesting. It is going to spend a year in Virginia to be prepped but there's a lot of nooks and crannies in that ship
Fantastic footage of this massive cruiseliner.
Thanks for watching!
Did you guys put that rocker cover back on that engine?
@@jimmiles33 our tour guide pulled the cover so we can see the rockers and cam. He reinstalled it when we moved on to another area.
@@AbandonedSteve okay good. Thank you.
@@AbandonedSteveif you’d like to see what that engine sounds like running, look up USS Slater here on TH-cam. We have one in running condition. Exact same model. The engine you show here was a surplus model sold from Cleveland Diesel. The other was a newly built unit. Serial numbers match the original order forms from 1951.
@@jimmiles33Same engine as the United States?
@@DanMaverick22yes. SSUS has 2 emergency diesels. The identical models are used as service generators aboard some destroyer escorts.
I am hoping for a miracle she could be saved.
I just don't think it will be saved.
I would say that she's worth saving for future generations, but all they are interested in these days is TikTok and Onlyfans. An absolute tragedy that this ship has just been left to decay. Surely that beautiful backup gyro can't be allowed to end up at the bottom of the ocean??
Very true. Today's generation is for sure not the same.
Are they going to save that last prop or is it going down with it? I hope they save it, I believe the other 3 were restored and are on display at various locations.
I believe it will go to the Museum they plan to build. It's too heavy to remove there so it will be removed in Alabama.
She's gotta be completely environmentally safe...absolutely every inch mush be cleaned to become an artificial reef...
Yes. It is going to be spent almost a year in Virginia getting prepped but will everything be cleaned? I don't know about that.
@@AbandonedSteve when is she being moved to Virginia, & I'm going to guess there will be coverage of the sinking in a year or so?
@@pozspeakerau The rumor is that next week they're moving her but again that's a rumor. When it comes time for sinking, I'm sure there'll be tons of coverage. Fortunately I won't be there as that's going to be too much of a hike from where I live
@@AbandonedSteve i really do think they made the best decision
I imagine how people must have taken pleasure to break everything they could get their hands on.
No respect for history.
I now understand why it would cost so much to retrofit her.
It is a great shame not having kept her in decent shape when she was retired.
It is very sad to see the SS United States in that condition.
What a waste i worked at the naval base in Philadelphia when she came here so wish some of the famous people that went on cruises on her would step up to save her it's like a living machine and should be saved so sad it's a ship not a under water amusement park 😢
Well said such a terrible decision to allow this to happen.So wrong.!
Keep voting liberal PA that seems to be working. You make me sick!
@@ginog5037 nothing about this ship has anything about voting this is much more than that
@jerrybeauchamp2311 BS democRats hate history, prove me wrong, I dare you...
Thats so damn sad man they don't give a shit about preserving any history anymore! This country has gone to hell! It deserves so much better!
My whole channel shows it all. Old historical homes, abandoned, decaying, falling apart, demolished. That is just how we do things here in America. Sad
Where you able to take something?
@@chrisfusco1108 no couldn't take anything
It would be great if you could learn to scuba dive and do this tour once again after it is sunk.
Haha well that would be an experience haha
It’s super sad to see it happen this way, but there’s no way anyone will spend the money on it.
Yep, too much to restore. If the inside wasn't stripped, I could have a chance
Sad,this could have been a gold mine. Remember they were going to demolish the old prison and now it's a big money maker.
Yea I think this one is a goner. Sucks
if they where smarter on saving the ship back then or at least tried harder i can picture the ship as a museum with all of its history on the ship
They tried. Maybe they were asking for too much.
So sad. Perfect example of what this country has become.
It is sad to see it go, but in all honesty, no matter what avenue is taken to restore it, it's just not practical and would cost an absorbant amount of money.
The government has enough cash to subsidize sports stadiums and other random crap but not enough to at least get the nation’s former flagship into a stable port and cleaned up for a future restoration or repurposing. Mighty shame but at least the scrappers didn’t get her
@@aegonthedragon7303 there is no care of things like this ship. I agree, I wish they would focus on certain things
scrapping it would make the metal live on and be used. sinking it is a waste
America messed up on this one
Yep
Yeah thanks Dave for the final tour of the SS United States I watched all your other ones years back and then you quit exploring so I didn't know what happened to you but glad you did this last one this is important and historical kind of. I agree I hate to see it being sunk but it is better than scrapping her but I guess there's a lot of things I don't understand about this after she retired why did they all the sudden just decide to send it to Ukraine to have all the asbestos removed I mean why would you tow her that far just to do that there had to been something else in mind. And then looking at the state of the engine room being kind of torn apart why was that done since the Navy was involved I'm sure they had some saying in it because of the top secret stuff that was in it but that was a long time ago that stuff is all outdated stuff now. But again Steve thanks for the video I enjoyed it very much. PS how come you don't do videos anymore?
Thanks for watching. All very good questions. Unfortunately I can only guess the answers but I'm sure it went to Ukraine as it was a much cheaper abatement. The entire ship was asbestos so that would be my only guess. As for the engine room and other components, I'm sure the US Navy pulled some stuff before it got sent over there
If I were a millionaire, I would buy it to restore it
I think we all would but you would probably need to be a billionaire as they estimated 500 million just to restore it
boats are one of the biggest wastes of money its always degrading
I was really hoping a rich tycoon would purchase this old ship. That she would be saved, restored and turned into a hotel like the Queen Mary or maybe a museum fashioned and furnished like the era this magnificent vessel was built. Is sad what is currently going to be the end for this ship.
I was really hoping for that too.
You said they cut up one if her boilers? Did they say when that happened?
I have no idea when that happened. Could have been a long time ago
I just...I don't get society anymore. You've got all these retired ships an boats...from fishing to old coast guard boats an whatever else.............an we sink the one ship that just happens to be a historical treasure. Seriously?!!!!!!
The are probably planning to do it after some significant event to have the optics of the ship sinking as the rest of the country is gutted. One thing for sure is there is a fight against saving anything to do with this country’s history.
Problem is we build BIG, very big, we made the same mistake with churches, building massive buildings that could seat 1,000, 2000 people or more, and now maybe 50 or 100 go any more, the building falling apart and needing a million dollars worth of repairs and the 50-100 members don't have it, so the building gets abandoned, vandalized, set on fire and ultimately the CITY is stuck with with a building the taxpayers have to pay to demolish, and landfill.
This ship sat rotting at the pier for 30 years, the pier owner got tired of seeing an eyesore rotting away and rightfully said DO something with it or MOVE IT out!
@@HobbyOrganistSusan Gibb is con and phony. Her father must be so proud as he's rolling in his grave...
This always happens. In twenty years it'll be why didn't we save it?😢
No one cared for the time it sat, now that it's on the new to be sunk, it's now a big deal.
It's a shame that she's going to the water grave.
I know. Super bummed
They used a broom to sweep out the asbestos 😣
Yep crazy
I'll hold out hope until the end, until this masterpiece of engineering slips beneath the surface to her final fate. Yes, this is a more dignified end than to be scrapped, but still 😔. With all the other foolish, temporary things the uber rich throw their money away on, all the while proclaiming their "patriotism", one would think preserving the flagship 🇺🇸 🚢 of this nation would be an obvious priority. Just imagine the patriotic boast 😤, if nothing else, they could've had after doing so. But, widgets and sh*t mean more. I knew her end had to eventually come from the way things were going for so long. Still, I'll cling to the hope for a miracle 🙏 until the final end. On that day, I hope she receives all the pomp, publicity, due ceremony, and dignity she truly deserves. Thank you for giving her that dignity in this video. SAVE THE UNITED STATES ! It's not quite over yet, not while she floats 🚢
There is someone in New York that wants to try and take ownership of it, but Okaloosa County is saying it's too late. Not sure where this person was 6 months ago.
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This ship is a legend. To sink her is an insult. To her and her crew and all who sailed on her...the company who decided this are idiots...her speed record to this date has not been beat that I'm aware of.
I think it's all a long story and sadly the ship got the crap end of it.
It’s a boat lol
Too bad for this grand lady. Maybe if they had not completely stripped her of all her interiors, it would have been worth the huge amount of $$$ it would have cost to make her into something profitable once more. Look at all the near death experiences the Queen Mary faced sitting in Long Beach. I get it, asbestos.
I agree. I think if everything was still kind of in it like the walls and such, it probably would be in a better situation than it is right now
should sink it at night time and allow passangers to see what it was like on titanic even have a band soooooooo koooooool
It's a crying shame to see this magnificent ship being sunk like garbage. It is still sound looking after all these decades. I wonder how much of the oils and plastic and rubber can be removed before it is sunk? Looks like a bit of a pollution for the ocean to me, with the rest of the paint and chemicals.
I agree and we'll see. It's supposed to spend a year in Virginia being prepped but there's a lot of stuff and space on that ship. I think it'd be a miracle if they got every square inch
I hope the funnels are removed and preserved.
They will be removed before it goes down
@@AbandonedSteve, hi. Will all the items made from plastic (polymers), inside the ship, be removed before sinking it?
@@utthapa not sure. I would think all that would remain in the metal
Sad that this is going to be the fate of such a famous ship, but being that nearly everything was stripped out of the ship, including all equipment in the wheelhouse, I had a feeling it was ultimately going to become an artificial reef. I imagine restoring it to seaworthiness would be far too expensive. May it's history live on in the bottom of the ocean!
Crystal Cruise lines did a study. Half a million to make it sea worth again
@@AbandonedSteve Interesting, thanks for sharing! Would that be including converting the ship into a diesel propelled engine or is that assuming they would try to restore the steam engines? Not that it matters at this point, but you know...curiosity.
Yes that includes converting its power to modern engines. The boilers have been cut up so they would not be able to re use anything. Crystal Cruise lines were the ones interested. They did a study on it but from what I was told, it would need some major updates to follow today's new Maritime rules. The bridge is too low so they would need to raise that. Also since it has rivets, the US Coast Guard said that they would have to dry dock it every year to be inspected. They didn't want to lose a month every year and just backed out. It would cost more to fix her than to build new. The only thing that was feasible was some type of Attraction but even that no one wanted to take on the project. It sucks
Looks like a lot more than asbestos was removed. Everything on the bridge couldn't have been made of asbestos!
@@johncanetta6708 a lot of the instruments were removed. The US Navy had part in the funding and top secret stuff was installed on that ship. Not saying anything in the bridge was but electronics were removed before it went to Ukraine. Same with the furnishings, they were auctioned off in the late 80s
Shouldn't the scuttling at least happen in her port of registry of New York city?
I agree
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No! Don't sink that ship! Don't sink history!
Sad i know. It will happen though.
@AbandonedSteve What a mistake...
500 bucks says she founders before reaching the destination 😂