Lessons I took from this video: Being a big fish in a small pond is the way to go (Niching down) Solving a specific business is the key factor in getting the attention of a client Outsourcing your weak point is the way to scaling up Having a clear process to succes gives confidence to the client to move forward with you(It also gives a expert status) Differentiate yourself from the crowd, through content marketing Understand what your service does for the customer(Know the KPI's and find out how to reach them) Not knowing what problems you solve with your service will result in a hard time selling yourself If I had to choose from what I took from this video it would be: To niche down and get focused. Being a commodity will get you no where Whats yours?
Notes: - Define your niche. Don't sound abstract. - Share a specific/relevant work sample in your pitch & how you benefited them. - Get them on the call first. Outsource the lead aquisation part
I was impressed by this video. I thought a young man with no business experience had found a way for agency owners like myself to make $20k per month. So I contacted Josh through linked in. I asked could he point me in the direction of a Linked In specialist he talked about. He replied saying the Linked In specialist worked for his agency and would I like to make an appointment to talk? So it’s a dog and pony show IMO. Ran you have a good channel, please research your guests further before having them on.
Actually, I checked his new website and it seems way better than the last one. Not the greatest I have seen but...decent. Still sketchy as fuck when he claims that his coach works for his company. I mean what kind of mentor you are if you work for your student. I think he is an actual designer and he really does what he claims in the video. Just that maybe he is not doing as good as he wants us to believe... Anyway, the way he speaks shows that he has some selling skills. It seems that he can make a decent website as well. And he is having an idea about a strategy to acquire leads. Again I think he is what he said. Not as good or as transparent, however.
As someone who works in/with SASS companies... I hate receiving this communication. They keep messaging me like I am ignoring them. It leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. It provides zero relationship with me. Sorry... I get this is about scale. But I have been calling out folks who message me with zero relationship. I hate sounding like a grump. Playing devils advocate.
I somewhat agree. I don't mind all random messaging. To me its all about approach and if they have something I need or could use. Rarely am I annoyed by someone offering something I could find of use. And at the end of the day, we never know, that person messaging us could be a future contact, collaborator, or partner in our business.
What made this video not boring but interesting is Ran not questioning only about the topic, but also other deep and cool questions, we had in our minds
It's kind of suspicious that I can't find anything about Joshua's work on google.. I tried searching for the companies that he says he founded (on his youtube channel information) and I found nothing. I'm not saying that he's lying but someone could learn to talk like that and say they are marketing gurus or whatever so it would be great if he'd have more presence on the web or some hard proof that what he is saying is true and not just a smoke selling speech.
Ron you should be a detective than a designer, you are amazing how you ask probing questions , great interview. bit dubious -why isnt his company even mentioned anywhere?
Wow! Ran, this is a goldmine, great job on asking the right questions. I've been following you since I saw your interview with The Futur Love the content!
So awesome he was hitting up networking events at 15. You can def tell rt away he’s seasoned and confident. Would luv to see his actual site design portfolio.
Is it weird that someone talking about selling website / web based automation to high value clients didn't have any website link in the Interview here and none in LinkedIn as well. Something is not adding up. !! 20:15 is the process in a nutshell !!
Just one question: How does he make sure he is not regarded as Spam? Is the sales Navigator different from sponsored Inbox Messages? I get tons of generic Messages from 16yo "coaches" who wnat to tell me how to generate leads and close "big Deals" I wonder how he builds enough Credibility and Trust towards his prospects so that the are willing to send 10k + to an 18 yo Guy they have never met, and then engage in a remote brand building process. Am i not optinistic enough? It#s really incredible how much self esteem and just-do-it mentality these digital natives bring to the Table!!
Many newbies who are exited to launch on the 2.0 and could do it themselves are pretty happy to pay the startup fees. Just closed a 5k landing page + ecom yesterday from a Facebook client, he didn't care which platform, he was even open to all my suggestions and all he cared about is a beautiful Ui and didn't even asked for my portfolio. He followed a 20yo guy referral to me and the trust wad built by the content that guy was always providing for free.
@@oussamdz2761 what do you mean by 2.0? And how come that newbies have that kind of Budget? Arent they capable of utilizing a decent website builder to get a basic Website online? These are doubtful Questions i ask myself..not because i am sceptical but cause my i am right now building up a business model/niche offer that is aimed to people who just want to get online fast with a descent Website they can update themselfes. Actually it's a service that uses a website builder like squarespace and sells it as a done-for-you Solution. However my clients are mostly 40 plus small business owners who dont want to do it themselves. How did you generate that Client? which plattforms are u using? Thanks for your Answer! & Regards from Austria!
@@vikkal2008 Hi Victor, i asked those questions myself, let me ask u, ¿how much are u charging for a basic website?, i think it will always rely on the value you show to the owners, we are all humans based on some common bias, so if are able to sistematically show that the X amount they spend is a lot less than the Y value they will get, the price become easier to raise (obviusly if u deliver the promissed to the client)
2.0 is the web, high value clients want a custom design from scratch, that involves a custom and functional Ui, it is nearly impossible for them to create using any website building tool themselves because it takes so much time to understand how the web works + having very advanced design skills. The client I talked about has bought a hosting, a domain name, a do it yourself builder yet was stuck. Secondly, he spent years focusing on his products and has a money making strategy, and finally, this is the type of clients you are targeting not some broke people wanting a random website. And that's why ui/ux work pays well, because it is custom and hard to do.
I used to be a linkedin coach and work for the biggest linkedin lead gen companies in the states selling business owners the exact same thing he was using. Automation can help when done correctly, but users are tired of bots so a genuine human connection goes a looong way
Amazing video. Thank you so much Ran. Love you so much. I am desperately, eagerly, madly, badly waiting for the next. And I have a looooot of questions too.
Absolutely no social proof in this. It looks like a total scam. No links, now portfolio, no mention of "my linkedIn guy". I this were real, and I was his LinkedIn guy with no specific reference, I'd be incredibly disappointed that I missed out on this opportunity. All this points to this being fake results.
I'm impressed by what he says, but it also sounds a little bit fishy. Any client he has done could be a case study, so why hasn't he used those? I looked at his YT channel and he is not making good use of video as a selling tool.
Good interview. Josh has a good head on his shoulder. For an 18 year old, he might not have a ton of experience, but he has what it takes to be super successful in the next couple of years. I just enjoyed listening to him tackle the questions, but all I need myself is a LinkedIn coach for business to start with. :)
EXCELLENT job prodding the guest to provide valuable detail. All too often, the speakers in a TH-cam video are incredibly vague, as opposed to being descriptive without unnecessary rambling. They oftentimes carelessly "gloss over" any important detail or background information that the audience would need to fully understand what is being said.
He's a fraud. There are so many 18-20 year olds like him. Look in the comments. He copied his website from someone. His case studies are for other 18 year old "CEOs". What makes you think he has the integrity to tell the truth in this video? 100% he lives with his parents and has a mentor grooming him in business. Good for him for starting in business young, but he's a fraud and definitely not making anywhere near 10k/month. I would be surprised if he's making $500/month. The kid just finished high school. Yet he's pretending to be Steve Jobs and acts like he has two decades of experience as a marketer and thinks business owners won't see through it? He literally just finished high school. Would you trust him with your ad spend?
@@AlexB-xp4jy hes very business savvy for an 18 year old this you can't deny. the fact he already has strategies speaks volumes. I don't know many 18 year olds this ambitious. most of them just worrying about college, social media, friends. he may not have a lot to offer right now, but you already know he'll be doing big things by the time he's 25.
Good stuff position yourself , manual messaging first , track and then automate. Nicely done . LinkedIn is heavily sleeped on people still think it’s for only recruiters
Thanks for having me on the show ran! To anyone wanting to learn more I just started a channel talking about my start in entrepreneurship at a young age.😇
It was an absolute pleasure hearing from you Joshua and much thanks to Ran for having you on here. Ran, I think you need to create another video as a part 2 or something with Joshua.. 😆
Elephant in the room how much does the LinkedIn coach cost? Last one I talked to was like 7000K for their starter package so not cheap. I see about 3 or 4 of these guys on my social media feeds per day. You have to be very careful which "guru" you get they could be good or could be frauds.
700k????? What the fuck lol. Thats the wildest ive ever seen. I used to be a linkedin coach and worked for the biggest linkedin lead gen company in the states. Take it from me and sorry im 11 months late but save yourself the money and learn to how genuinely connect with people on linkedin. That will lead to 100x more longevity and health in your business than automated spam messaging
Hi Ran, Cool videos as usual! your videos are awesomely informative. I have a question not related to the topic of this video..but the vidoe itself.. I am looking at picking up these kind of black acoustic backgrounds which you have. Could you tell where you picked them up? I remember you had mentioned a while ago that 'futur' sent you the refernce link from where you bought it.. for some reason I dont seem to find it. I would really appreciate if you could send me a link where I could purchase it.. Thank s a ton!!
Thank you both so much for the excellent information. I love Josh's approach to his industry and it certainly inspires me to think a little differently about my own.
Still shock about a 18 years old could get B to B project budget on 1000 USD dollars when everybody always take Wix to comparison just through Linkin? So impressive and kind of confuse to be honest.
The least you can do is to learn HTML and CSS, and they are not that much hard at all, you can master their basics in one or two weeks of intense learning and practice.
I am a bit confused. His website, Flowww (weareflowww.com) is the exact same site as one of his case studies, Dinergy (www.dinergy.com.au). Did he sell them a copy of his website?
LOL it's 404'ed. Funny how many people here are just sucking the d*** of any marketing guy who says hype stuff in a youtube video. I didn't even bother watching it the whole thing was sus, and I saw the comments and yup confirmed.
Congrats to him, seems like he found something that works for him. However, pitching this as an idea that will work at scale for many people after he’s only been doing it for a month and a half seems wrong. He should come back in 12 months and show us how he’s doing and not simply refer to “i have a guy” and using buzzwords each time an important point is raised
Top class video packed with invaluable information.. 2020 off to a great start.. Ha ha!! I think Chris Do might want to have Joshua on his show as well.. 😆
Typically these lead agencies are effective if done correctly. I worked for Kennected which is a SaaS automated lead gen company for linkedin specifically. All of this is possible without automation and hiring an agency it just does take more time
Also important to say - this was 2 years ago but automation is massively saturated at this point so I would say unless you are extremely targeted and working very closely with a coach, I wouldn’t use automation. People will be turned off more often than not as automation is around every corner and hard to tell who’s real or not
Was thinking same thing. Sounds like he architects the wireframe based on strategy and his mmr method then passes it in trust to the designer to juice it up with the brand and designs. Id honestly guess a flat % per project, maybe 10% ? My route would be long game i think and to hire a fresh design intern out of college or finishing college to design the site and teach them webflow to build it. Take 4-6 weeks to train them on everything, give them a flat %, tons of experience, and fire quickly if things dont work out
A simple marketing website for a profitable small business, $400 is definitely undercharged. 4k~8k is reasonable, over 10k you'll likely need a sizable team. Regardless, there's something to learn from this young man, thanks for sharing!
He seems like a smart kid, but I'm a bit disappointed to find out that he completely ripped off his design for his agency website from someone else. Being unethical like this won't get him far in the long run. See the comments on his webflow page: webflow.com/website/Flowww-Digital-Agency
Little bit dissapointed because of the click bait title says $20k/m, and he made $9k until now and maybe he'll close $10k, and all of that is one time payment, not recurring, also not profit.
@@alpacaikaritexas7754 Honestly, when I hear stuff like this, it's either a complete lie where this kid is trying to sell a course on how to get clients, and Ran might want to make extra dollars so he interviews him and gets %, or this kid fooled Ran (let us see his invoices and proof) or this kid is simply genius, if so I'm sorry and wish you all the best in your life! Tell me one thing, what kind of a person would give $10k to an 18 year old? People learn stuff like that for years and go to college and this kid (not trying to insult, but he's still too young) claims he can do it better? And even if he started 3-4 years ago, his mind can't comprehend all of that information as someone who's older and has real life experience. What kind of results does he provide to charge $10k?
The guy is more into sales and from this interview, he's definitely a good closer as he knows his numbers and target, the thing you're wondering about is why lot of ppl are cold messaging those ppl but they reject them yet trust this 18yo guy, answer is easy, he has a process and knows what to say and how to reach. 90% of freelancers suck at talking to leads, suck at copywriting, suck at understanding business owners, once you don't suck at this and deliver value the marketplace doesn't care if you're 3yo as long as you deliver results. I started learning stuff he said at 19 and now I'm 21 and not even close to what he did, the complete bigger picture about everything he said completed few months ago for me and i assure you that a simple 5K client i closed through fb yesterday didn't even care about my portfolio or anything, he came because of another 20yo guy's referral all because he had free content on fb and built trust with him so quick by asking the right questions that shows i understand his needs. Didn't care my age, country, or experience.. Only results that matters to these clients, even more for clients already in business and looking to optimize for more profits. Right messaging matters, sales matters,..
Yeah the story did seem fishy, I think I fell for it mostly due to the fact I freelanced in high school but it's was for like 100-500 websites or logos, it was suspicious how no link of the work of Josh was done and how many times they mentioned flux 10k master class, and when you search on TH-cam it's literally flooded with content creators swearing they make 10-100k a month on Shopify or shady social media marketing tactics that they can teach you. I would like to give this video the benefit of the doubt but Josh just started a channel an hour ago here in the comments and no link to his company was posted. So? I'm switching sides here this video is very fishy.
TDLRest also isn't it weird how Josh is looking away from the camera every second, you can guess he wrote some of the answers to Ryan questions beforehand as maybe how they agreed to do the interview but it kinda feels like Josh is reading off the screen most of the time.
Wow ngl this kid is sketchy. If you're a business owner, how can you trust to do business with someone who has 0 case studies, but claims to have xx years of experience. "automation" is often mentioned as a magical buzzword. Isn't it weird that nobody knows what "blackbox" is this magically automates whatever gains, especially for an industry that is filled with innovations and explorations. Love your content man, but please inspect more about the people you're featuring/promoting - unless this kid paid you for this spot. Many of his stories are honestly not adding up. :/
I think he was saying case studies showing quantitative data on specific websites conversions before & after. But that would mean basically, the only sites he ever did had to be his client’s first site or just kept no data whatsoever for whatever reason. Both sketchy and seem unrealistic
Excellent interviewer. Poor interviewee. I love how Ran asked questions. Though I really hate how this kid answers them. It's very self centered and not intended to help Ran's viewers. He clearly just wants to add this interview as part of his portfolio. lol
This kid has a good head on his shoulders. Great communicator. He will surely run a company soon. The real question is whether he should even bother going to college or not.
It really was this easy to acquire clients with automation 2 years ago. Now it is extremely saturated and more often than not you will burn your opportunities just by using it unless super targeted, great messaging and a great linkedin coach. People can recognize the ai and automation’s getting passed around linkedin like crazy. Although linkedin is still a massive lead gen opp for your business, it’s changed when it comes to using automation. I would go the route of hiring a VA or something, pay them per close, and have an actual human being reach out if I were to use “automated” messaging.
Lessons I took from this video:
Being a big fish in a small pond is the way to go (Niching down)
Solving a specific business is the key factor in getting the attention of a client
Outsourcing your weak point is the way to scaling up
Having a clear process to succes gives confidence to the client to move forward with you(It also gives a expert status)
Differentiate yourself from the crowd, through content marketing
Understand what your service does for the customer(Know the KPI's and find out how to reach them)
Not knowing what problems you solve with your service will result in a hard time selling yourself
If I had to choose from what I took from this video it would be: To niche down and get focused. Being a commodity will get you no where
Whats yours?
Amazing summary Eduware, thanks!!
Thank you Eduware, you’re just save a lot of my time. Thanks again :)
@@daleldalel maybe so... never the less the above points still ring true.
@@daleldalel
I would love to spend time listening to you instead man, hats off!
@@EduwareIzekor Yes, I can't disagree. I was just disappointed to find out Josh was a fraud.
Notes:
- Define your niche. Don't sound abstract.
- Share a specific/relevant work sample in your pitch & how you benefited them.
- Get them on the call first. Outsource the lead aquisation part
I was impressed by this video. I thought a young man with no business experience had found a way for agency owners like myself to make $20k per month. So I contacted Josh through linked in. I asked could he point me in the direction of a Linked In specialist he talked about. He replied saying the Linked In specialist worked for his agency and would I like to make an appointment to talk? So it’s a dog and pony show IMO. Ran you have a good channel, please research your guests further before having them on.
Same thing happened with me as well. I was very disappointed. Also I checked his flowww website, and is...well...let’S say is not the best
100% this guy is not legit. just lying on the internet with absolutely no tangible proof of success.
Actually, I checked his new website and it seems way better than the last one. Not the greatest I have seen but...decent. Still sketchy as fuck when he claims that his coach works for his company. I mean what kind of mentor you are if you work for your student. I think he is an actual designer and he really does what he claims in the video. Just that maybe he is not doing as good as he wants us to believe... Anyway, the way he speaks shows that he has some selling skills. It seems that he can make a decent website as well. And he is having an idea about a strategy to acquire leads. Again I think he is what he said. Not as good or as transparent, however.
I'm an automation specialist, and he's speaking bullcrap dude.
@@HACHmusic Why do you think this is not legit? What would you do differently?
I'm honestly so shocked that these videos don't get more views. There is so much value in this content. It's a freaking GOLD MINE!
Absolutely agree.
Did anyone ever say how good of an interviewer you are ran, man you digging up gold stuff out of this guy :)
True. I was like "uuuh, that's a good question".
@@AlejandroZorita totally- Ran was truly wakling the Edge between beeing a good listener - and digging deeper at the right Spots.
I can totally relate. I made a video similar to this if you want to see.
Really cool video Ran, nice one! Great to hear Josh's take on it all!
Now he's pivoted to his own lead gen agency.
Who, flux?
4:34 what company did you use to outsource the outbounding messages? andcan you give an example of the message?. Thank you!
As someone who works in/with SASS companies... I hate receiving this communication. They keep messaging me like I am ignoring them. It leaves such a bad taste in my mouth.
It provides zero relationship with me. Sorry... I get this is about scale. But I have been calling out folks who message me with zero relationship.
I hate sounding like a grump. Playing devils advocate.
Everyone's different and have their own forte. What do you dislike about their approach?
I somewhat agree. I don't mind all random messaging. To me its all about approach and if they have something I need or could use. Rarely am I annoyed by someone offering something I could find of use. And at the end of the day, we never know, that person messaging us could be a future contact, collaborator, or partner in our business.
Interestingly I tried to look him up as well and couldn't find anything. Hmmm
Honestly, felt like a sales pitch.
What made this video not boring but interesting is Ran not questioning only about the topic, but also other deep and cool questions, we had in our minds
It's kind of suspicious that I can't find anything about Joshua's work on google.. I tried searching for the companies that he says he founded (on his youtube channel information) and I found nothing. I'm not saying that he's lying but someone could learn to talk like that and say they are marketing gurus or whatever so it would be great if he'd have more presence on the web or some hard proof that what he is saying is true and not just a smoke selling speech.
I made a video similar to this if you want to see.
@@sumit2506 Wow first off your site looks incredible. But secondly lmao this guy's site is so bad! His ripoff didn't succeed in the least. Damn
Is it because he is an 18 year old and 3 years ago he was jumping rope with girls at his front yard.?
lol, the clarity of your shot is freakin amazing!!!
Ron you should be a detective than a designer, you are amazing how you ask probing questions , great interview. bit dubious -why isnt his company even mentioned anywhere?
Wow! One of the sharpest individuals, a young one at that, I have ever watched on the topic of prospecting.
Wow! Ran, this is a goldmine, great job on asking the right questions.
I've been following you since I saw your interview with The Futur
Love the content!
I can totally relate. I made a video similar to this if you want to see.
So awesome he was hitting up networking events at 15. You can def tell rt away he’s seasoned and confident. Would luv to see his actual site design portfolio.
Great interviewer and with such a bright student. Cheers. I love this channel
Is it weird that someone talking about selling website / web based automation to high value clients didn't have any website link in the Interview here and none in LinkedIn as well. Something is not adding up. !! 20:15 is the process in a nutshell !!
Just one question: How does he make sure he is not regarded as Spam? Is the sales Navigator different from sponsored Inbox Messages? I get tons of generic Messages from 16yo "coaches" who wnat to tell me how to generate leads and close "big Deals" I wonder how he builds enough Credibility and Trust towards his prospects so that the are willing to send 10k + to an 18 yo Guy they have never met, and then engage in a remote brand building process. Am i not optinistic enough? It#s really incredible how much self esteem and just-do-it mentality these digital natives bring to the Table!!
Many newbies who are exited to launch on the 2.0 and could do it themselves are pretty happy to pay the startup fees.
Just closed a 5k landing page + ecom yesterday from a Facebook client, he didn't care which platform, he was even open to all my suggestions and all he cared about is a beautiful Ui and didn't even asked for my portfolio.
He followed a 20yo guy referral to me and the trust wad built by the content that guy was always providing for free.
@@oussamdz2761 what do you mean by 2.0? And how come that newbies have that kind of Budget? Arent they capable of utilizing a decent website builder to get a basic Website online? These are doubtful Questions i ask myself..not because i am sceptical but cause my i am right now building up a business model/niche offer that is aimed to people who just want to get online fast with a descent Website they can update themselfes. Actually it's a service that uses a website builder like squarespace and sells it as a done-for-you Solution. However my clients are mostly 40 plus small business owners who dont want to do it themselves. How did you generate that Client? which plattforms are u using? Thanks for your Answer! & Regards from Austria!
@@vikkal2008 Hi Victor, i asked those questions myself, let me ask u, ¿how much are u charging for a basic website?, i think it will always rely on the value you show to the owners, we are all humans based on some common bias, so if are able to sistematically show that the X amount they spend is a lot less than the Y value they will get, the price become easier to raise (obviusly if u deliver the promissed to the client)
2.0 is the web, high value clients want a custom design from scratch, that involves a custom and functional Ui, it is nearly impossible for them to create using any website building tool themselves because it takes so much time to understand how the web works + having very advanced design skills.
The client I talked about has bought a hosting, a domain name, a do it yourself builder yet was stuck.
Secondly, he spent years focusing on his products and has a money making strategy, and finally, this is the type of clients you are targeting not some broke people wanting a random website.
And that's why ui/ux work pays well, because it is custom and hard to do.
So, this guy is a web designer who doesn't design website, doesn't reach out to clients, doesn't code... what exactly does he do?
Hhh..is 😂😂truth
brag?
I used to be a linkedin coach and work for the biggest linkedin lead gen companies in the states selling business owners the exact same thing he was using. Automation can help when done correctly, but users are tired of bots so a genuine human connection goes a looong way
Amazing video. Thank you so much Ran. Love you so much. I am desperately, eagerly, madly, badly waiting for the next. And I have a looooot of questions too.
I'm a principal designer at LinkedIn, his story is very similar to mine... Though I discovered the company 10 years ago and decided to take a role.
Whats a principal Designer exactely? Would appreciate an explanation - sorry, regards from Austria :D
Links to his work?
This
100% right to be suspicious. check my comment below to find his work. LOL! ;D
@@michaelpalin995 I don't see your comment below...
There's no work anywhere. His website is 404. Quite suspicios
Absolutely no social proof in this. It looks like a total scam. No links, now portfolio, no mention of "my linkedIn guy". I this were real, and I was his LinkedIn guy with no specific reference, I'd be incredibly disappointed that I missed out on this opportunity. All this points to this being fake results.
Amazing clear Strategy and confidence.
This is absolutely amazing information!!! I am so grateful I ran into this video!!! Thank you guys for sharing!! Much success to Joshua and The Flux!!
Very impressive young man. Why would anyone give this a thumbs down?
I would love to know who is the LinkedIn consultant, and the name of the company that helps automate the messages!
I'm impressed by what he says, but it also sounds a little bit fishy. Any client he has done could be a case study, so why hasn't he used those? I looked at his YT channel and he is not making good use of video as a selling tool.
Good interview. Josh has a good head on his shoulder. For an 18 year old, he might not have a ton of experience, but he has what it takes to be super successful in the next couple of years. I just enjoyed listening to him tackle the questions, but all I need myself is a LinkedIn coach for business to start with. :)
Super happy that I found you also on TH-cam! Already following your great content on IG!
happy to see you here as well Domenico!
EXCELLENT job prodding the guest to provide valuable detail. All too often, the speakers in a TH-cam video are incredibly vague, as opposed to being descriptive without unnecessary rambling. They oftentimes carelessly "gloss over" any important detail or background information that the audience would need to fully understand what is being said.
Why trust a guy with no portfolio, case studies, social proof, etc?
Because he has a cool formula and glasses?
He's a fraud. There are so many 18-20 year olds like him. Look in the comments. He copied his website from someone. His case studies are for other 18 year old "CEOs". What makes you think he has the integrity to tell the truth in this video? 100% he lives with his parents and has a mentor grooming him in business. Good for him for starting in business young, but he's a fraud and definitely not making anywhere near 10k/month. I would be surprised if he's making $500/month. The kid just finished high school. Yet he's pretending to be Steve Jobs and acts like he has two decades of experience as a marketer and thinks business owners won't see through it? He literally just finished high school. Would you trust him with your ad spend?
@@AlexB-xp4jy hes very business savvy for an 18 year old this you can't deny. the fact he already has strategies speaks volumes. I don't know many 18 year olds this ambitious. most of them just worrying about college, social media, friends. he may not have a lot to offer right now, but you already know he'll be doing big things by the time he's 25.
@@AlexB-xp4jy why don’t you back off buddy, what are you doing with your life to spend that much time hacking on a kid who’s doing better than you?
What a bright young man and he is very talented, like you are Ran, at communicating ideas extremely clearly!
Josh is so smart! Thanks for sharing this information. It's good motivation.
His ideas are so well thought out! It's so rare to find someone like him... Especially at his young age!
Great interview. Loved to listen it.
Super valuable information here man .. really appreciate doing this for the designer community ..
Totally agree...even a few years later.
I always learn something new from your videos, they're so informative!
Good stuff position yourself , manual messaging first , track and then automate. Nicely done . LinkedIn is heavily sleeped on people still think it’s for only recruiters
Thanks for having me on the show ran! To anyone wanting to learn more I just started a channel talking about my start in entrepreneurship at a young age.😇
Great :)
Thanks for the conversation Josh! I've added the link to your channel & linkedin in the video description.
It was an absolute pleasure hearing from you Joshua and much thanks to Ran for having you on here.
Ran, I think you need to create another video as a part 2 or something with Joshua.. 😆
Josh, just wondering, where did you get the LinkedIn coach from?
Thanks, dude. You rock!
@JoshuaBonnell could you share links to your works/website/portfolio whatever please? ;)
Thank you Josh for your transparency. Im super interested in the 10k web course now 👀
Awesome chat! Great tips, thanks!
Elephant in the room how much does the LinkedIn coach cost? Last one I talked to was like 7000K for their starter package so not cheap. I see about 3 or 4 of these guys on my social media feeds per day. You have to be very careful which "guru" you get they could be good or could be frauds.
700k????? What the fuck lol. Thats the wildest ive ever seen. I used to be a linkedin coach and worked for the biggest linkedin lead gen company in the states.
Take it from me and sorry im 11 months late but save yourself the money and learn to how genuinely connect with people on linkedin. That will lead to 100x more longevity and health in your business than automated spam messaging
Automation=Bot and spam messagning.
There are legit ways to do this, like using ads and creating content that helps, just like this channel.
Hi Ran, Cool videos as usual! your videos are awesomely informative. I have a question not related to the topic of this video..but the vidoe itself.. I am looking at picking up these kind of black acoustic backgrounds which you have. Could you tell where you picked them up? I remember you had mentioned a while ago that 'futur' sent you the refernce link from where you bought it.. for some reason I dont seem to find it. I would really appreciate if you could send me a link where I could purchase it.. Thank s a ton!!
Subbed bc of this interview, great questions and excited to see more of your stuff 👍
Thank you both so much for the excellent information. I love Josh's approach to his industry and it certainly inspires me to think a little differently about my own.
I use an agency like that as well for LinkedIn prospect outbound automation. I get like 50-100 conversations with ideal prospects.
can you share your contact if you don't mind?
So interesting! Thanks for bringing this awesome content
His LinkedIn sequence is called spam. That’s why i and most people never reply to these kind of messages
Smart interviewing as well. Great questions
Witch camera you use my friend for live?
Still shock about a 18 years old could get B to B project budget on 1000 USD dollars when everybody always take Wix to comparison just through Linkin? So impressive and kind of confuse to be honest.
This boy is on top!
Who is the LinkedIn coach he uses?
We assign you one if you have a sales navigator account or just asked Support services
@@DavidCarmonaUX Who are you to make that offer?
@@DavidCarmonaUX How do you know that's where he got his coach from?
@@Dstinct THX! I got it :D
@@DavidCarmonaUX How do you get this coach with Sales Navigator?
I am so happy for Josh's success, please congratulate him on my behalf , he is very inspiring . Thanks to you both.
Will do!
Where do you find a LinkedIn coach??
Great interview asked the right questions! 18 years old as well 🙌
Really really helpful, thank you both!
Very helpful video! It has really motivated us to re-evaluate our marketing strategy.
As a UI XD designer , should we learn HTML and coding ?
Or is skills in AI AND XD enough?
The least you can do is to learn HTML and CSS, and they are not that much hard at all, you can master their basics in one or two weeks of intense learning and practice.
He's only 18!!
Amazing work :)
very helpful content, thanks for sharing with us.
I am a bit confused. His website, Flowww (weareflowww.com) is the exact same site as one of his case studies, Dinergy (www.dinergy.com.au). Did he sell them a copy of his website?
Very confusing.
LOL it's 404'ed. Funny how many people here are just sucking the d*** of any marketing guy who says hype stuff in a youtube video. I didn't even bother watching it the whole thing was sus, and I saw the comments and yup confirmed.
Ran, how do you get clients, if not by Linkedin or freelance platforms?
Thanks in a million. Josh.
Congrats to him, seems like he found something that works for him. However, pitching this as an idea that will work at scale for many people after he’s only been doing it for a month and a half seems wrong.
He should come back in 12 months and show us how he’s doing and not simply refer to “i have a guy” and using buzzwords each time an important point is raised
Top class video packed with invaluable information.. 2020 off to a great start.. Ha ha!!
I think Chris Do might want to have Joshua on his show as well.. 😆
u still think it was a great strat???
Typically these lead agencies are effective if done correctly. I worked for Kennected which is a SaaS automated lead gen company for linkedin specifically.
All of this is possible without automation and hiring an agency it just does take more time
Also important to say - this was 2 years ago but automation is massively saturated at this point so I would say unless you are extremely targeted and working very closely with a coach, I wouldn’t use automation.
People will be turned off more often than not as automation is around every corner and hard to tell who’s real or not
Who can tell me is it still worth getting into this business models? Or is too saturated to even spend time on it
I would like to know if you can share the LinkedIn coach he is using...
I wonder what his overhead is if he is outsourcing the design and build of the websites
Was thinking same thing. Sounds like he architects the wireframe based on strategy and his mmr method then passes it in trust to the designer to juice it up with the brand and designs. Id honestly guess a flat % per project, maybe 10% ?
My route would be long game i think and to hire a fresh design intern out of college or finishing college to design the site and teach them webflow to build it. Take 4-6 weeks to train them on everything, give them a flat %, tons of experience, and fire quickly if things dont work out
This kid sounds like a comedian trying to impersonate zuccerberg
Great content. Usefull. Thank you ;D
1:56 I'm an immediate fan of anyone who pronounces "processes" correctly
A simple marketing website for a profitable small business, $400 is definitely undercharged. 4k~8k is reasonable, over 10k you'll likely need a sizable team. Regardless, there's something to learn from this young man, thanks for sharing!
I've done $10k-$30k websites without a sizeable time as a freelancer
@@FluxAcademy, haha, the MAN!
20:06 when you realize the kid is far to gone 😂 #geniuskid
What do you mean by that ?
do you think Rane Tchenically selling his course?
He seems like a smart kid, but I'm a bit disappointed to find out that he completely ripped off his design for his agency website from someone else. Being unethical like this won't get him far in the long run.
See the comments on his webflow page: webflow.com/website/Flowww-Digital-Agency
Please give a link to the guest. Thanks for video!
My bad Julia, you're right, links added to the description. Thanks!
Alright so literally 12 minutes in and this kid has not said one solid step of his process. Seems like total BS. Really upset with the wasted time.
Can I fresh one UI/UX designer j find job or internship in freelance market
nice work josh
Hey ran. Thanks man
This guy doesn't even have his own website?
Check his youtube profile links. He has one to his course site.
You don't exactly need a website either.
Little bit dissapointed because of the click bait title says $20k/m, and he made $9k until now and maybe he'll close $10k, and all of that is one time payment, not recurring, also not profit.
TDLRest yeah but he's 18 and he's barely starting out , plus it's TH-cam clickbait is part of the ecosystem
@@alpacaikaritexas7754 Honestly, when I hear stuff like this, it's either a complete lie where this kid is trying to sell a course on how to get clients, and Ran might want to make extra dollars so he interviews him and gets %, or this kid fooled Ran (let us see his invoices and proof) or this kid is simply genius, if so I'm sorry and wish you all the best in your life!
Tell me one thing, what kind of a person would give $10k to an 18 year old? People learn stuff like that for years and go to college and this kid (not trying to insult, but he's still too young) claims he can do it better? And even if he started 3-4 years ago, his mind can't comprehend all of that information as someone who's older and has real life experience. What kind of results does he provide to charge $10k?
The guy is more into sales and from this interview, he's definitely a good closer as he knows his numbers and target, the thing you're wondering about is why lot of ppl are cold messaging those ppl but they reject them yet trust this 18yo guy, answer is easy, he has a process and knows what to say and how to reach.
90% of freelancers suck at talking to leads, suck at copywriting, suck at understanding business owners, once you don't suck at this and deliver value the marketplace doesn't care if you're 3yo as long as you deliver results.
I started learning stuff he said at 19 and now I'm 21 and not even close to what he did, the complete bigger picture about everything he said completed few months ago for me and i assure you that a simple 5K client i closed through fb yesterday didn't even care about my portfolio or anything, he came because of another 20yo guy's referral all because he had free content on fb and built trust with him so quick by asking the right questions that shows i understand his needs. Didn't care my age, country, or experience..
Only results that matters to these clients, even more for clients already in business and looking to optimize for more profits.
Right messaging matters, sales matters,..
Yeah the story did seem fishy, I think I fell for it mostly due to the fact I freelanced in high school but it's was for like 100-500 websites or logos, it was suspicious how no link of the work of Josh was done and how many times they mentioned flux 10k master class, and when you search on TH-cam it's literally flooded with content creators swearing they make 10-100k a month on Shopify or shady social media marketing tactics that they can teach you. I would like to give this video the benefit of the doubt but Josh just started a channel an hour ago here in the comments and no link to his company was posted. So? I'm switching sides here this video is very fishy.
TDLRest also isn't it weird how Josh is looking away from the camera every second, you can guess he wrote some of the answers to Ryan questions beforehand as maybe how they agreed to do the interview but it kinda feels like Josh is reading off the screen most of the time.
This is one smart 18 year old. Good for you man!
very true
If I Have A Marketing Agency Helping Ecommerce Brands Scale Using Facebook Ads What Industry Do I Target On LinkedIN?
Wow ngl this kid is sketchy. If you're a business owner, how can you trust to do business with someone who has 0 case studies, but claims to have xx years of experience. "automation" is often mentioned as a magical buzzword. Isn't it weird that nobody knows what "blackbox" is this magically automates whatever gains, especially for an industry that is filled with innovations and explorations. Love your content man, but please inspect more about the people you're featuring/promoting - unless this kid paid you for this spot. Many of his stories are honestly not adding up. :/
I think he was saying case studies showing quantitative data on specific websites conversions before & after. But that would mean basically, the only sites he ever did had to be his client’s first site or just kept no data whatsoever for whatever reason. Both sketchy and seem unrealistic
Flux,
Great content.
Did you apply this knowledge & strategy to your business and find success??
Would love a post-Coronavirus update.
Mind.Blown.
This guy is a champ
Excellent interviewer. Poor interviewee. I love how Ran asked questions. Though I really hate how this kid answers them. It's very self centered and not intended to help Ran's viewers. He clearly just wants to add this interview as part of his portfolio. lol
i have started a startup in App and Web development.
Good that you blurred out the word SHIT on the background wall...... DO EPIC >>>>
Any chance of providing the LinkedIn Expert contact?
This kid has a good head on his shoulders. Great communicator. He will surely run a company soon.
The real question is whether he should even bother going to college or not.
- Don't trust something with no screenshots. The first lesson I've learnt.. Fake testimonial review OMG
Is is there link to his work?
sounds great but something doesn't add up
It really was this easy to acquire clients with automation 2 years ago. Now it is extremely saturated and more often than not you will burn your opportunities just by using it unless super targeted, great messaging and a great linkedin coach. People can recognize the ai and automation’s getting passed around linkedin like crazy.
Although linkedin is still a massive lead gen opp for your business, it’s changed when it comes to using automation. I would go the route of hiring a VA or something, pay them per close, and have an actual human being reach out if I were to use “automated” messaging.