It’s funny how European countries support and supply weapons to Ukraine and still want Russian gas. Simultaneously they accuse other countries who buy oil from Russia while they want uninterrupted gas supply from the same Russia. Hypocrisy at its best.
The West must stop looking down on others. Disrespect is a great sin for all humanity. They will at least learn not to look down on Russia this time. God bless Russia, white people's lone normal nation this century!! Jesus Christ alone can save sinful humans.
I feel like your question and Al Jazeera's are both rhetorical. As we (presumably) all know that each side would be doing the exact same thing to each other. Geo politics 101
They have sanctioned Russian gas and oil . BUT that doesn't mean not receiving it. It means no payment. In others words, Russia should keep supplying oil and gas for FREE.
@@movementmathebula828 It's more of Russia cant hold Euros or USD because they'd be immediately frozen by European and American banks. If you cant spend the money you receive as payment your basically giving away the goods for free. Hence Russia said to pay them in rubles instead which is a currency they can use but Europe said no, take our Euros which we will freeze immediately when you receive it.
@@saundramichael-bey2212 Blaming US or Trump for absolutely everything including your cheerios being soggy is the logic of the entire planet. You're falling right in line there bud. You've got a war so far and disconnected from America that besides putting a Ukrainian flag on your car people here couldn't care less in reality. Yet, EU citizens will be fighting for warmth this winter. Still gotta bring up US though. Focus on yourself and your own problems. We will continue supplying Javelins as you request and I will continue to invest in Texas Instruments. Salute.
UE and NATO imposed sanctions on the purchase of Russian oil from the beginning. Russia has the right to cut off gas to all unfriendly countries, it is their gas after all.
You’re wrong. There are contracts in place. So, according to your logic, Lithuania should stop transit to Kaliningrad because ‘it’s their land, they can do what they want’. Ruzzia threatened nuclear escalation if Lithuania breaks this agreement but when ruzzia breaks an agreement, it’s up to them? Your logic is non existent
@@mojo1388 You must be a European, shame on you. Was it correct to impose sanctions on Russia and expect them to dine with you on the same table? Stupid. How many contracts EU have broken on Russia based on their stupid backfiring sanction?
@@mojo1388 That's russian logic. Same way that it's ok for them to invade Ukraine because NATO went back on their verbal agreement to not include former warsaw pact states in NATO, but it's perfectly fine for Russia to ignore the written agreement they made with Ukraine to respect their sovereignty. Russians don't need to follow agreements, but others do. That's Russian logic.
Well, the EU tried to weaponise heavy sanctions on Russia and Russia has its right to weaponise energy on the EU. Of course, the EU will get thru' the winter but let's see at what cost?
Winter lasts only 3 months. You can get over it but depends on how bad it is. The bottom 80% will suffer more. But who cares in EU and US? Looks like they don't care. All the leaders are well of and can take the stress. Long term is the effect on industry. This is the crunch that Russia will impose on EU.
EU will be just fine. A few though years and they will pivot, it’s great for green energy. This energy crisis will just push innovation, however, ruzzia will be in deep trouble. They can’t sell the same quantities of gas to other countries, not in the EU. There is no infrastructure for that and we will see their suffering soon
“ When you pray for rain, you gotta deal with the mud too “. We are not enjoying, we are just shocked to see the level of arrogance of European leaders .
How do you feel about Russia saying Ukraine has no right to exist? That it's full of Nazis. Is it ok for your nearest neighbour to invade your country? Would you press for "peace" and let them take over your nation? Didn't think so..
it's their citizens that are suffering and not the European leaders.. they just talk about moral high ground and blame everything on Putin....... they are still having meetings in 6 stars hotels and having warm showers... Their citizens need to make sure the European leaders pay for their blunder.
The EU: We're not going to buy your fascist gas. Russia: We're not going to sell it to you. Conclusion: Russia gets zero European money. Winner: Ukraine.
Russia said they shut down the pipeline for maintence but also said they were missing parts because of the sanctions so the maintence will take longer. What they said seems reasonable.
Its supposed to be maintained in Canada but due to sanctions it cant be performed. The current heat wave is helping things but as they say... winter is coming.
This new faulty turbine - Gazprom say it was a joint inspection with Siemens. And siemens signed the document agreeing the turbine had a problem. Seimens later issued a denial that they were not present nor have they signed any such document. Can Gazprom produced the document? If they do then it seems there is a plot by the German Govt & Siemens to destroy Germany.
Considering the Canadians are withholding 5 more turbines (they sent one of 6 to Germany) and Portovaya is down to one functioning compressor out of five with no backup (the system has 5 large turbines, 1 large emergency-only backup turbine and 2 small ones - there is one large and one small left), and now the last turbine has an oil leak. So, its either maintain or blow up the compressor station. Scholz begged the Canadians to send them back during his visit, but who knows how long that will take. It's a critical issue.
Why does Europe, especially Germany chooses to conveniently forget that they first sanctioned Nordstream 2 pipeline first? That means Russia's actions have been responsive. This is an economic war first declared by Europe under the leadership of the US. Russia has taught the world something new. Sanctions can be rendered useless if targeted nations are strategic and United with own allies
Maybe because Russia has been sanctioned for their aggressive behaviour and illegal invasion? Huge difference to why Germany is being sanctioned but ok, lets act like its the same thing just to spew some nonsense.
@@birenbackchi7942 Europe didn't decide that, the country being invaded did. They asked for the sanctions and the EU obliged. Don't tell me a elected president of a democratic country declaring this an invasion is the EU's work, thats just stupid af
@@adolphusputin-5605 Nobody ever punished the West' s aggression in Iraq, Libya etc. Germany now declares that it will support Ukraine till the end even at the cost of pain to their own citizens. All Russia wanted was neutral Ukraine and autonomy to 2 Donbass regions which was outright denied . Germany which guaranteed the Minsk Accord did not pressurise Ukraine to implement the same for 8 long years. Now admission of Ukraine into NATO is not happening and the 2 Donbass regions have become independent. Had the West and Ukraine acceded to the 2 reasonable demands this war would not have happened.
If sanctions were to punish Russia then Russia has the right to find counter measure.The arrogance of Eu is Russia should accept sanction and don't complaint.Russia should havr cut off the supply of gas from as early as when the sanction started.
They can't do that, because if they did, they will have time to recover and making plan for russian alternative supply. That why they do cutting gas by surprise. Also, they need money because US freeze Russia's money. Russia has an high IQ, doing thing in the right place and in the right time. Playing CHESS. Slava Russia.
Your view is pretty narrow minded. This is a contractual agreement - ruzzia signed a contract with the EU, the same way they signed a Kaliningrad transit agreement. Ruzzia threatens to take military measures against EU if they won’t honour Kaliningrad agreement but then EU has to be ok with ruzzia not honouring gas agreement? Ruzzia is an arrogant, terrorist country
I would never sell a thing to those that give weapons used to kill my people, threaten my country and impose sanctions on my economy. Why should anyone accept such things? Will India or US accept such actions from other countries and keep making deals with them at reasonable prices?
Stop blaming a victim for defending itself or looking for help. Russia should have not invaded Ukraine in the first place. Putin made the biggest mistake ever.
@@Blanka1100 Are you talking about the Russian and the rest of the minorities that the ethno-fascist Kiev regime wants them dead? You know, the same regime that chosen a fascist that murdered hundred of thousands of minorities, as the Ukraine national hero? The same fascist regime that brag about genocide against minorities on national television claiming "Ukraine is for Ukrainians"? Yes, I think you are confusing who is defending from who. Do you see any uprising in the Russian occupied territories? Or do you see millions of Ukrainians fleeing the abusive mandatory enrolment from the Kiev fascist dictatorial regime? You know, the same regime that banned all the opposition parties, imprisoned journalists and assassinated minority leaders.
@@Rig0r_M0rtis You mean do not defend your own nationals being murdered and abused by the ethno-fascist Ukrainians? Or not recover the historically Russian lands that were given to Ukraine for free by various Ukrainian born Bolsheviks and Communists of the past? Dude... lol. You do not know much about Ukraine and how it was formed, just like Yugoslavia, by Bolsheviks, from stitching together lands and nationalities. When Crimea was part of Ukraine, these minorities combined had over 60% of the population! And yet the "true Ukrainians", aka the ethno-fascists in power after 2014, claimed the entire land is theirs and theirs alone "Ukraine for Ukrainians". Oh, and to make sure everyone got the memo they chose a genocidal fascist as the country's national hero. Someone that murdered hundred of thousands of minorities in order to "purify" Ukranie.... And EU delivers weapons to these people....
I am a bit confused. I thought that EU put sanctions on the Russian oil and gas. And also cut Russia from payment systems, just as banned TV stations and tourism and so on. So, how can Germany import oil and gas from Russia? And if it did, how could it pay for it as well?! Did I misunderstand the sanctions?
Sanctions are only for those unimportant stuffs. Anything that is really important and can affect survival like gas or fertilizers are not sanctioned. So you can see exactly how efficient sanctions are.
Stanislav Mitrakhovich's analysis is brilliant. It was the EU that started the sanctions against Russia, now Russia is retaliating and no one should blame them.
after Zelensky told Germany,/EU to stop ibuying Russian energy, he should thank the people living in Germany and UK for their support to stop energy imports from Russia (^_^)
Ya but Ukraine is still buying gas from Russia , so think 🤔 why this is happening. Covid didn’t work so now an energy crisis, coincidentally? I don’t think so
Clown 🤡 ruling from Kiev Ukraine all eu, USA,I mean total world listening this drugged,product of Zionist,usa puppet doog made to Ukrainian, Ukrainian choose clown, clown need circus, turned Ukrainian into circus 🎪
@@OutragedPufferfish lool most of Russians are already leaving in poverty.. no Eu money= no economy for Russians .. plus sanctions lol .. eu will survive.. with putin in power russia is doomed
... your sentiment is spot on: "why wouldn't Putin retaliate for the sanctions" but the situation is even more pathetic because Putin (by the way, if anyone uses "Putin" in a counterargument in this crisis, you'll know it's Propaganda) ok, so, Putin did actually not retaliate nor leverage gas and oil for political pressure ... Gazprom did not withheld delivery and rather stuck to its contractual obligations ... as early as May Ukraine’s gas grid operator cut Russian gas flow to Europe ... gas flow via the Nord Stream 1 pipeline, was reduced in July because of a faulty turbine which was sent for repair and withheld for over a month in Canada (Siemens) and still is not delivered and now, September, Nord Stream 1 is shut down (initially for only three days) for planed scheduled maintenance but being shut down entirely and indefinitely over discovered oil leaks on three vital turbines ... well, propagandist will say: such are all made up problems by Putin to create political pressure, yet totally disregarding the fact that there is a fully operational (Russia paid) pipeline ready to jump in, which is Nord Stream 2 ... it's even worse, the 80% (plus) storage Germany claimes to have is actually Gazproms own gas storage service buffer in Rehden/Germany which Germany stole (took over by decree) in April 2022 ... absurdly enough Germany still has a contractual low price option on Russian gas, some of it Germany sold (backflow) to Poland for a higher price (Poland and Bulgaria stopped paying for gas via the Gas for Ruble scheme and was shut off in April) ... so, who is the fool now ... it's all soo pathetic it's unbelievable ...
@@junglesuperstar9270 EU should not have allowed them so much control. They let their own energy future slip through their hands because of some weird girl.
well you can, if the gas station did not have any one else to sell to. there were reports this week that russia was burning a lot of gas at the finnish border. this si done becue that have a exxes of gas, and no where to pump it, thus its a total loss. Russia could go the LNG rout. but there are some major problems. first is the climate, not good for LNG, second is the technology, that is from the west, AKA not available, and the third is the economy, its in a downwards spiral so no new pipes to other places for a long while.
I’m a mechanical engineer with speciality in gas compressors, almost 28 years experience, I’ve worked with and an decades long friend with one of Siemens turbine contract engineers he’s an ex Rolls Royce turbine engineer. This is the last drive turbine for the compressors that was operational, the turbine is basically a JET ENGINE! It has two high pressure oil lubricant leaks, news is LYING, Siemens would NEVER AUTHORISE isolation of two lubricant lines, and even if they did the turbine engineer would NEVER sign it off for safe operation it would suffer a catastrophic failure with high torque load very quickly!!! Russia may be laughing and enjoying this but these units are multi million dollar pieces of equipment. Not Gazproms responsibility that the west is illegally placing sanctions on gas turbines..
You know this, Mick, and have said it. How many will understand it and would they care unless it did fail? Lot of cynical thinking out there.... sadly some of the thinkers are politicians.
Illegally ?? WTF is wrong with u ?? R U a TROLL ?? U sound like one ! F Russian Energy !! Europe is BETTER OFF without it !!!! It’s BLACKMAIL and you talk of “ ILLEGAL SANCTIONS “ ?? SERIOUSLY ? THOSE EVIL KILLERS DESERVE MORE SANCTIONS !!!
Glad majority of the world has not stupidly sanctioned Russia. That is why the current crazy inflation or should I say recession are exclusive to western countries. Amen to that. Thank God my elected leader are good friends with Russia
@@nicolocadamuro9988 Oh really??? We shall see about that one 35 percent is quite a large chunk They will pay through the nose but oh, thats right, you guys couldnt care less if mafia criminals extort you and force you to pay 10 times the amount for energy Fine, have fun!
Lady, pretending she is an expert, is just a liar. All actions by Russia are just a reaction to European insanity. After Russian property, assets and bank accounts has been stolen by Europeans, Russia has only one legally clean line of reaction: literally follow to all existing contract and do not sign any amendments to existing contracts or make new contracts until all problems with assets will be resolved.
@@Isinlor This Ukraine's tragedy, those why may go and fight or recure civilians from shelled buildings are already busy with sitting on coaches and working as information trolls.
Germans seems to have started believing their own lies like "gas trade is purely economical". It never was and we should have sanctioned gas imports from Russia back in February.
Energy crisis turned into sentiment :- a k a demonstration of energy crisis. [all over e. u. ] * So now the 'leader ' are lethargic or keep to shrugged trilogies facing the societies!
@@wolfgang2291 Oh please stop trying to derail from the real reason. If it is not for NATO eastern expansion to the doorstep of Russia, which was promised by NATO in the late 80s would never happen, invasion of Ukraine would not happen. In the 60s Russia was going to station missiles in Cuba and America got super nervous and almost went to war with Russia. So you see, America expects no threats at her doorstep so can Russia expects the same thing
@@Alamak2070 Is russia really afraid of NATO ? Are they afriad NATO will invade and conquer moscow ? This is bs and everyone know this. USA and Russia are the biggest nuclear powers and neither of them, will risk a nuclear war.
@@wolfgang2291NATO is run by America and the rest are just puppies. If you think NATO expansion has no hidden agenda you are too naive. America loves naive people
It's always propaganda. There's no way to report on anything political, or involving anyone whose job is political in nature and have no propaganda come through.
I don’t understand how we punish Russia but are shocked when they respond. They have other buyers and the doom of russias economy never materialized. The Russian ruble and markets are stable and they can wage this war indefinitely. We overplayed our hand and underestimated their economic resilience
Europes gas imports by russia was around 50% of its demand, but europe made up of 83% of russias gas exports. Wonder why Putin stopped delivering economic data on his country, arent you? No you are not? Did you even know, that Putin is just cherry picking data? Maybe you should think about it. So europe looks like its suffering more than russia, but the end will show what reality was. Europe is alone on this, half of the globe is brainwashed by russias/chinese desinformation campaign because they can control the data that flows out of their countries like all good dictatorship.
And now russia can barely make functioning cars, and people are complaining there arent enough buttons. yea the sanctins are working, but Pootin is desperate to show otherwise.
Price caps is anti trade and anti fair trade. Why Europe does not put a price caps on all of its products including its technology and military equipment.
The pice cap is not intended just at Russia but to "punish" OPEC for failing to increase production to lower prices. Draghi and Yellen then decided the G7 should be a buyers club dictating prices. The cap would force OPEC to cut prices to compete. Of course, this will have a major backfiring effect and is likely to push the GCC and OPEC+ to end the petrodollar.
Cluster bombing Ukranian schools and hospitals is also anti trade. Why would you think that when Russia invades our neighbour and disregards the rules of war, and the rules of decency, that we would then be most concerned with "fair trade". Russia can withdraw from Ukraine if its so concerned with its trade.
And in doing so Russia teaches Europe an important lesson it had forgot in the 90s - never make yourself reliant on Russia, cause they will invade your neighbours and then you are stuck in an impossible dilemma. Europe will of course survive the winter, even if painfully, but will it ever commit to important trade with Russia again? Probably not in decades. And China/India is not buying Russian oil out of the kindness of their hearts. What happens when you only have one customer to buy your product, and he is far away? long term reduction in profits.
Russia violated the contract by demanding payment in roubles. Russia proved they were an unreliable business partner (after 50 years as supplier going back to the Soviet time). Russia started their war of aggression against Ukraine showing they are an entirely unreliable business partner. Russia deserves to be punished more than merely sanctions.
@@deanegoltermann155 I dont even know why we are talking about this conflict as if its a contractual trade disagreement - They are murdering their way through Europe, so we sanction them. next step is boots on the ground cause we will not have dictator roaming Europ.
@@deanegoltermann155 why in the first place Nato putting its military installations near Russia?? Are they dumb ?? Why to provoke a sovereign nation?? And by imposing sanctions upon sanctions which any one who eat food can understand it is to weaken Russia's economy...we are talking about millions of people ..then Russia has every right to reply back on the save way.. it's completely EUs fault to be a puppet of US..
@@andreisokolenko7719 you just summed it up. It has been a big influence in the world. After USSR collapsed it ceased from being important. All it has now are nukes and energy. No important manufacturing and outdated techonology. Russia got too absorbed with oil and gas income it forgot to actually use the money to modernize its economy. Its no wonder there is no high tech industry in russia. Russia has all the things necessary for it but alas.
@@scholargnome DW is definitely biased when it comes to Russo Ukrainian war. DW is German so it is understandable. AJ is Qatari so they have no agenda to be biased in case of the Ukraine Russia war, they are biased when it comes to other topics. But even then AJ is the most unbiased in general compared to other news outlets.
Wasn’t the sanction imposed on Russia included buying oil , gas , fertiliser, and other commodities . Why is the EU insisting that as alternative sources are not available , Russia must sell its oil and gas . EU deserves reaping what it sows ……..
@@lilikkrismantoro2027 whataboutism! Their was always a reason, dictatorship etc. And don't tell me, that Russia fights Nazis in Ukraine! Absurd, the government is just devouring Ukraine. Nothing but cruel imprrialism, brother. By the way, I don't want any attacks or wars on any country.
Nothing is logical and normal in the West anymore. That is why vast majority of world population that lives outside the West (United States and Western Europe) want to abandon the West and join high growing economies like China, India, Russia, Indonesia.
I like the hypocrisy of the European countries, the EU to be exact, in accusing Russia of using Oil and LNG as a weapon.. I suppose those sanctions on Russia were not meant to go unchallenged !?. There's an expression that says "You made your bed, go sleep in it " or words to that effect.
What is the problem? Germany has for years been telling their very reliable gas partner that they want to wean themselves off Russian gas. How did they expect Russia to feel. Now Russia has made their dreams come true which must be perfect for Germany. Germany should thank Mr Putin for helping them go green. I am sure that their European values will save them. 😀
EU has not been 'dependent on Russian gas'; they have been dependent on 'Russian cheap gas'. They could have at any time diversified to LNG from other sources, but at such a high price that it made absolute nonsense. US switching to other sources for LNG will transform whatever is left of the EU into a third world country. They have prospered solely on the basis of reliable and low Russian energy costs. By the same token, the US/EU has prospered solely on the backs of cheap Chinese labor costs. If the western world keeps tweaking the Dragon's tail, they may find themselves totally cut off from Chinese manufactured goods which will result in absolute chaos. The western world is less than 20% of the world population. I am sure that Russia and China will figure out a way to survive and thrive on the basis of trade with the remaining 80% of the world population. The US and the EU are essentially bankrupt with unsustainable debt/GDP ratios, even the fumes they are running on from Russia and China will soon evaporate.
@@lynnettemurphy8243 SO WHAT?? Although EU industry is dependent on cheap gas to maintain any competitive standing in the world, gas is not the only problem with the EU. The EU is an entity totally controlled by Brussels/US. When the EU collapses, it will collapse as a unit and the individual countries will have to pick whatever bones are left after the US has devoured its flesh and sucked its blood dry.
They are 20% of the world population but 50% percent of the world GDP. If they don’t buy from you ie RUS or China then the your economy will not be good. China cannot be number 1 economy if the west sanctioned them and do not buy from them
@@annle9671 GDP is not a valid indicator of the wealth of nations that have largely self-contained economies, which nations constitute a large proportion of the world outside of the US and Eu. Fundamental world political structures and national economies are very rapidly changing, which is why it is advisable not to base future prediction on a world of the past that no longer exists. . Note that even SEC Rule 156 requires mutual funds to tell investors not to base their expectations of future results on past performance before they invest.
EU energy chief says Russia is using natural gas as a weapon ! If she did not know that putin was not using his leverage , She needs to voluntarily leaves her job !
She knew. After they invaded Ukraine, we all knew. Our problem with Putin now, is not that he is using leverage, its that he invaded our neighbour. That means that Russia is not stable enough to depend on. And that lesson is something that will hurt Russia for decades to come.
@@peterpeterpeter6315 Do you remember how the whole world placed sanctions on the US and UK after the 2003 Iraq invasion. Did the US/UK suddenly become unreliable.
@@michaelotieno6524 whataboutism. Your asking Europeans to accept Russia invading Europe because some other country invaded some other continent once? A lot of European countries objected to that. And for all their faults, the US military has nothing like the Wagner group. Russia is a totalitarian nation and their army known for brutality and rapes, Western armies dont even come close. really is the only argument Russian has isnt ir- someone else has done something wrong too. Well i dont remember Russia objecting very much, not as much as they would have if EU invaded Belarus.
@@peterpeterpeter6315 No i am asking why Europe didn't impose sanctions when that other country invaded another country in another continent? I am not telling Europe to accept anything in am asking Europe to stop pretending to be moral and ethical overlords of the world. Go read about Blackwater and Nisour Square attacks and how they were pardoned i see no difference between blackwater and Wagner.
Eu will get through it .. let’s see what happens to Russians economy lol .. no money .. sanctions etc .. eu still have enough reserves anyways so russia is just trying to safe face ., they will have to turn the tap on sooner or later 😂
Getting what? You make it sound like every country in Europe is depending on Russia gas but thats just so far from the truth. Theres only like a handful countries in Europe who buys gas from Russia and Germany who's the biggest one, the gas only represents measly 10% of their power produce. The other 90% they produce themself by coal, nuclear power, solar and so on. Stop making it sound like the Russian gas makes up all of Europes power produce. 😂
@@michaelevervall9889 Germany's major source of power is coal, and coal can only be transported if you have ample supply of petrol. No petrol, no coal can be brought to the generators.
@@michaelevervall9889 I don't know where you got that information from, because that's definitely not true. If that were the case, EU members wouldn't be going to Russia and China for petrol to begin with. Coal by the way has been in short supply in Europe since 2021, ever since the summits where countries pledged to spend fortunes on alternative energies. The only countries that have recovered from the coal shortage are the ones who went back on their promises such as China.
It's refreshing to see three people from Russia, UK, and Germany agreeing on the key issues, but obviously the EU leaders don't want to correct course. Let's see what they do as the winter starts and the protests begin.
Let see if they don't start looting Hungarian gas storage in the coming months, since Hungary is the only EU country that able to keep their gas from Russia and now they start to hoard those gas...
@@D64nz Bullshit, Norway already supplies EU countries to market prices. Denmark build a pipeline to Norway and gets gas soon. Norway itself, like the Netherlands, improves its capacity to supply its gas.
@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl Yeah, did you know the comparison between the "market price" they paid now and "Russian price" they've got before the war? Yes they do have money to buy Norwegian gas at the current market price, that's why they can fill 85% of all their gas storage (aside from looting gazprom tank storages in Germany too as their majorities contributor of their reserves currently), how about the people who served as the "market" that buy the gas? Surely asking bunch of people who get used of using cheap gas for 30 years to buy their gas at "real" market price is not an easy things to do,especially among the industrialist...
Its always funny when Europe complains of dependence on russian gas. If you need a gas and you dont have it in your country you will be dependent one way or another. You can stop to buy from Russia but you will have to buy from someone else anyway. And thas someone else will have a leverage that was russian before. Besides that "someone else" already have Europe in his pocket.
Almost nobody in Europe buys gas from Russia, just a handful countries and with Germany as the biggest buyer the gas they buy still only represents 10% of their power produce. The other 90% they produce themself by coal, nuclear power, solar, wind and so on. It's just the media who makes is sound worse then it is. 😂
Not very likely, consider which countries we're talking about. Every single citizen in those countries know exactly why the gas is cut off and the vast majority of them stand with Ukraine. They'll be fine with rationing. Strikes, unrest and the like only come when people feel wronged by their government.
@@ciybersal9833 you know how big Europe is? I know sauron is doing its best to cause havoc everywhere. But most people are level-headed and will endure.
First Sanctions and now price capping, Europe is still saying that Russia is weaponizing gas. They should look in the mirror. Friendly countries getting a discount on oil and gas is totally fair, because they didn’t strain relations with their supplier. Such a simple logic, and yet smart European leaders are still missing the point.
Well, Russia is weaponizing gas, like Europe is weaponizing trade through sanctions. Europe should learn not rely to much on Russia for energy and Russia should learn that when they decide to invade other countries the sanctions will be severe.
India's Deal For Cheap Russian Oil Is Morally Bankrupt. The moral issue is black and white - an aggressive powerful country has invaded a smaller one and is deliberately murdering it's civilians, destroying it's civilian infrastructure to secure the terrority for itself. Would you sell your own parents if the price was right?
Please. The line of events is wrong. 8:50 first of all, Russia invaded a sovereign country. What was then expected ? Europe to stay shut ? Next would be Moldavia… it will be a dificult winder but we will survive. Chose freedom and democracy over cheap gas. 🇺🇦 🇪🇺
@@eric5901 LPG gas? wonder if America has new ports that can send over LPG gas. you are a ignorant man. America started the ports around 2014. We have more gas than we need. Thank you very much Putin.
It's a smal economic pain compared to people in Ukraine being constantly shelled. It this is the price we must pay to stop & destroy Russia, then so be it. The real pain will be felt in the third world where the war leads to inflation and food shortage. Europe will be affected, but not as much as poorer countries.
Europe: sanctions every commodity being exported to Russia. Russia: sanctions one commodity being exported to Europe. Europe: They're weaponising energy🤪
@@leeii337 wake up man usa /uk are the instigators - - Nato is the bully 70 years of USA interference - - Germany was forced to shut north stream 2 on pressure from USA was it not ? - - who's the bully then ?
Europeans response to Russia's stopped gas is senseless. Europe is fighting RUSSIA meaninglessly and thinks Russia has no rights. I think that is being crazy...They don't expect any retalisation whatsoever.
Not expecting retaliation makes them more foolish. EU crying like a spoilt child. Ha! Someone need to tell them to grow up. This is what i find really funny. When Russia said they need to close due to maintenance for a short while, EU sat on its tail waiting patiently. An ordinary person like myself knew Russia will not reopen. I swear i thought so, that they will not turn the gas back on. Joke on EU. Ha! ha!
Russia does not lose leverage by turning off the tap, Russia proves exactly how much leverage it has and makes Europe acknowledge it. Russia only looses the leverage if it blows up the pipeline and destroys the oil and gas in the ground. As long as Russia still has oil and gas, it has leverage.
Europe acted like a belligerent goon when imposing the sanction on Russia and behaving like a child whose Lollipop has been taken away! They should grow up, if you deal a blow, you should be able to take two? What a sense of being right in all situations?
@@Isinlor What about the same germans marched into Russia and killed so many russians and destroyed their villages and cities? Was that very democratic and justified? The truth is there is no clear cut white in world affairs and there are only shades of grey. Nations must do what is best for their citizens. But that needs good and responsible leaders. And that is very difficult to get. If democracy was strong, then unjust wars cannot HAPPEN. where are the checks and balances, even in US?
@@crusoerob8550 You do realize that I'm Polish? Germans and Soviet Russia attacked Poland in 1939. Poland lost 20% of population in that war, started by Germans and Russians. No, it was not justified.
The West/EU threw a boomerang at Russia. Now, the boomerang has come back, and the West/EU forgot to duck. Diplomats of Russia are playing chess and the West/EU is still trying to figure out how to play Checkers.
Nordstream2 was the backup in case Nordstream 1 required maintenance. Some of the maintenance parts also restricted due to sanctions. Another issue is also if Russia gives reasons for the shut down no one believes. What's coming is well deserved. SANCTIONS WORKS BOTH WAYS.
Nordstream 2 was an addition, not a backup for Nordstream 1. None of the maintenance parts are under sanction, the energy market so far was left out of the sanctions. Siemens Energy which did the maintenance also said that the current issue can be easily fixed and if necessary spare parts are already there to replace the damaged parts. With other words it is not even a big deal to get it fixed. Russia uses this pipeline which ran fine for 11 years as excuse now. Everybody knows that. But as you correctly mentioned sanctions work both ways... and the flow of necessary money end with them.
@@SWATOPR8R1 Yeh I wonder. Pretty sure, Russia cannot afford to keep Nordstream 1 closed for long. While the EU can substitute Russian gas, the Russians have to invest heavily to get someone else to buy theirs.
@@SuperSampling Well, first they have to sell it cheaper because there is less demand for Russian gas (e.g. the large discount of oil for India is a prime example for this). Building pipelines to China or India takes many years and is very costly. Turning it into LNG requires to build new factories to liquify the gas which is not going to be easy since the tech products are being sanctioned. Even if they manage it it will take lots of time and money.... with the insecurity involved that the G7 impose a price limit which in the end would make shipping oil and gas almost impossible. The EU is going to live with the higher prices eventhough it is going to be difficult. Russia on the other hand already today is consuming high amounts of its money reserves every month and on top of that half of these reserves can not even be used anymore.
What kind of leverage did Russia have with its gas on Europe, before Europe imposed sanctions? After emposing, should not be Europe expecting to have something imposed against it? There is a notion in Russia that there is no point to cell anything to Europe since they can not buy anything in return! Would you keep selling stuff, while receiving in return candy wraps?
As they saying goes, the West plays poker, Russia plays chess. The EU do know it's because of maintence. Seimans of Germany have signed off that the parts need maintenance offsite. The problem is the parts they sent to Canada got held up so long by the Canadians, and now they were just about to start to increase the flows again a new part has broken down. So now it will probably be the same issues with Canada holding on to the parts for a few months again. Meanwhile, winter is coming. The biggest joke is the West trying to price cap oil. It's Russians resource and like the gas they can do with it wherever they like. They can sell on their terms, and the consumers can buy or not buy. The capitalists should be celebrating the free market in action, but now that it hurts them, they can only whinge.
This is not economical matter, but strategical. EU must not trade with Russia. Germans bypassing their own sanctions is just ridiculous. One thinker once said "capitalists will sell us a rope on which we will hang them". Well, we must not sponsor Russian army.
@@Christian-re4dl Well, now energy cost 6 times more.., if it was not free, at least it was dirt cheap. the same goes for all other resources. Imagine if Africa was not weak, poor and caught in IMF and World bank debt traps. what would they charge for their resources, a pittance like now or a fair price? You are having an easy spendthrift kind of life in the West just by exploiting the global South including Russia strangely?!?)
I think that EU/NATO were counting on the Russian economy resembling Zimbabwe or Venezuela by now and us getting bountiful cheap energy. Now that hasn’t happened we’re really starting to panic…with good reason.
The truth? Well she's still hidden, you always get a glimps of it only. What's good in this "crisis" is that my country will get away from natural gas much faster as in the past. In the end, Russia will have huge problems to sell enough gas and oil to other countries and wont reach the volume it sold to Europe. Yes it is a task for Germany and all other countries who still depend on gas supplies from Russia. And, Russia has no fleet to distribute LNG, no terminals, no pipeline to China or India. And I don't think China is that much interested to depend itself on Russia, also out of a long history of tensions with Russia. For now it looks bleak for European countries which use Russian gas, but that's a momentum only. And if we look at Russias dependencies on Western tech in all parts of its economy that bites Russia already and will become real difficult in the next two, three years! Even the used Western tech to get oil and gas out of the ground makes Russia very vulnerable with these sanctions. From drilling to turbines, to robots and producing lines, Russia uses western technology nearly everywhere!
Don't fantasize, there are no super technologies! In Far East China and Russia border across the Amur River and no special transport will be required there. In 2-3 years, Europe will fall into decline and smoke from coal to the condition of the streets of the Middle Ages! It's funny to read your comment
@@이주영-h5j9n Do you mean me? If so, you have to answer me and not him, the original comment. And you're funny af, not really! Apropos fantasies, your comment makes no sense dude. Live in reality, not in wishland where all wishes come true. You wish, but reality is something else!
A win-win situation! Europe can achieve energy independence, and China, India and developing countries in Asia and Africa can get cheap Russian energy.
India is don't care about the rest of the world. India is taking care of it's country and it's people 💕💕. That's what other countries should do, instead of following a group of countries that is trying to bully the world.
Russia is unable to sell the gas since there is no pipeline. And it can't finish the pipeline with the sanctions. So it flares the gas. I would call it a lose lose situation.
Europeans think that Russia will help them gradually rid themselves from Russian energy reliance! They think Russia will do it gradually and according to EU’s strategic plans: “we shut down Nord 2 and we fill our tanks first then we blackmail Russia for Nord 1, oh wait, why isnt Russia helping!!” They are too much used to dealing with regimes that prioritize EU economy over their own countries’.
Diplomacy is the only solution to the problem. Not playing the blame game or doubling up to punish Russia. This Russian guy Stan talks alot of sense...
@@poofighter3741 Ukraine is being crushed. Europe is in deep economic problem with this energy crisis. European governments are falling like dominos. Putin is growing stronger. Is time for MATO/EU to face reality they are not in a position of strength. Before it is too late...
@@eymeeraosaka2954 Putin is growing weaker and will be dead soon and as for cutting the gas supply off, this will only have the opposite effect to what he hopes it will achieve, in other words it will backfire on him, and he will end up with no revenue for his silly billy war effort and as for Russia winning the war against Ukraine let's wait and see, and if the thick c--t has the audacity to set one boot into Nato Soil then Woebetide him as he will be crushed like a cockroach under the boot of NATO's far superior forces heh heh.
price cap should be imposed on US oil instead of russian oil since US would be the new long term source for EU and since EU had clearly decided to stop soonest possible the dependent on russian's oil. so the EU leaders hasnt act logically or reasonably at all by far in this sense. besides this, since russia is willing to sell its energy with discount to its friends , why cant US sells with discount as well to its allies ? China and india has intelligent leaders whom regards every country in this world as friends and would purchase oil from whichever offered better price. if EU do produce oil and offer better price than russia, i think China and India will definitely shift partial of their oil order to EU. everyone is what he is doing don't blame others.
Russian gas is cheaper due to shorter distance compared to America. America is a much less reliable supplier compared to Russia. The reason is America has chestnuts frying in every partof the world. They have conflicting interests all the time and when needed in self interest , think nothing of ditching their friends. Europeans unions bullshit about not wanting Russian gas is bravado and nothing else. Their products are already overpriced and with high energy prices, their industries will close down. The normal German always has been living on a shoestring budget , its only the German state which is rich and first world.
I don't understand why we just didn't stop buying Russian gas ourselves. I guess Germans are just naive maybe they actually believed their lies that gas trade with Russia was not political. Russia must leave Ukraine or be forced to do it with Western supplied weapons. Besides Poland, we are still not delivering Ukraine proper offensive weapons.
All engineers and project planners understand that 24x7 critical systems need back-up, whatever the cause of the failure. NordStream-2 was designed to provide Europe and Germany with that security/redundancy. Hard to blame Russia for our decisions.
Nordstream 1 was basically running on 1 turbine out of 6 around the clock 24/7 of course it will cause problems like leaks and if not stop it could probably cause a much worse disaster for Germany and Russia gas plant
@@sparkie996 No, he is right. Nordstream 2 was planned precisely for the event of of problems with Nordstream 1 plus the closure of the final of Germany's 6 nuclear plants (3 in 2021 and 3 in 2022). The idea was to move onto gas-plants and keep energy flows constant in the event of technical problems. The real situation is that Canada revealed during Scholz's visit that they withheld not just 1 but 5 more turbines (6 total) of the 8 required for the functioning of NS1 under Ukrainian pressure. So, the compressor station at Portovaya is down to one compressor out of five working with no back-up system, and the leak is on the last working large turbine. So, until they receive the equipment from Canada, nothing can be done. The reason that gas is being flared/burnt, is that gas cannot be suspended midair indefinitely as pressure builds if not pressurized into the pipeline and can cause explosions and a major environmental catastrophe. This isn't Russian bot stuff. I had to do a report, and got all the real information and had a long chat with Enbridge Canada on pipelines and compressor stations, and that is the situation faced at Portovaya.
Errors: 21:43 *Nordstream 2 is finished, checked up and ready* to satisfy *all* our needs here in Europe. But USA prevented Germany from starting its operation. Why?!! It does not seem to be "Putin's strategy". *Wrong number:* There were 120,000 of us demonstrating here in Prague (real number given by Czech police), but mass media reduced this number to 70,000 (=partial censorship). 21:43 Cease-fire is not enough. This war must be finished through diplomatic negotiation.
@@lynnettemurphy8243 The protest was for demission of the government that doubled the price of energies (in spite of our overproduction/export of electric energy thanks to supply of nuclear fuel from Russia), started unprecedented inflation, ignored our experts' advice to buy back previously our gas underground storage, refused to give our experts mandate to negotiate better conditions for gas import via alternative pathway, for demission of the government that doesn't care for their own people and is controlled from abroad instead; is encumbering the whole country with more and more debts e.g. by buying F-35 fighter jets that are worse than our Gripens, but are capable of carrying nuclear warfare thus turning our country into military target, for demission of the government that is arrogant and rude calling the people Russian trolls just because we want peace rather than supporting bloodshed... For real democracy and freedom of speech.
@@lynnettemurphy8243 And on September 28th was another one, and the next protest will be on Oct. 28th and more... This is just addendum to my previous long answer - if it is not displayed, please comment me again. Have a nice day
if want to stop war then peace diplomacy should be come first priority from the begining, but politician think by droping diplomacy Rusia will bleed for it, but at the end only common people got the pain.
The first objective is to kick Russia out of Ukraine - that involves raw power of offensive weapons. The second is to prevent Russia from rebuilding their army. Once Russia withdraws from Ukraine we can talk about diplomacy and reparations for the war to Ukrainians from Russians.
It’s like watching a slow motion crash and cannot change the outcome. EU is doing this to themselves just to blame Russia for their pain. -Kwame Palavin
bro believe me .europea is self-sufficient community in agriculture. they are in need of fosil fuelds. Europea has already stopped importing. They let ukraine to export the wheats to the africa over turkey. it has nothing to do with europea
It’s funny how European countries support and supply weapons to Ukraine and still want Russian gas. Simultaneously they accuse other countries who buy oil from Russia while they want uninterrupted gas supply from the same Russia. Hypocrisy at its best.
The EU is used to thinking that only they have the right to blackmail others!
The West must stop looking down on others. Disrespect is a great sin for all humanity. They will at least learn not to look down on Russia this time.
God bless Russia, white people's lone normal nation this century!! Jesus Christ alone can save sinful humans.
Totally shameless people
Attitude of entitlement
No one in the EU wants Russian products. This is changing as we speak!
The question is if it was EU sending gas to Russia 🇷🇺 will they still be supplying gas ?
Now that is a million dollar question.
Not a million dollars question, all clear to see
Of course not. And we will not buy any either. Russian economy must be strangled to prevent further aggression.
Answer is NO
I feel like your question and Al Jazeera's are both rhetorical.
As we (presumably) all know that each side would be doing the exact same thing to each other. Geo politics 101
i thought Europe had sanctioned Russian gas. so they shouldn't be buying it anyway. Russia just helping them honor thier santions
They have sanctioned Russian gas and oil . BUT that doesn't mean not receiving it. It means no payment. In others words, Russia should keep supplying oil and gas for FREE.
@hamid hamidi
it doesnt mean no payment.. but it is blowing up in their faces.
HEH😂
@@hamidhamidi3134 Sanctions means no payment? which planet is that ?
@@movementmathebula828 It's more of Russia cant hold Euros or USD because they'd be immediately frozen by European and American banks. If you cant spend the money you receive as payment your basically giving away the goods for free.
Hence Russia said to pay them in rubles instead which is a currency they can use but Europe said no, take our Euros which we will freeze immediately when you receive it.
The hypocrisy is astounding 🤦♀️ they can do what they want to Russia, but Russia is condemned when they fight back. So STUPID
Sounds similar to US logic.
@@saundramichael-bey2212 Blaming US or Trump for absolutely everything including your cheerios being soggy is the logic of the entire planet. You're falling right in line there bud. You've got a war so far and disconnected from America that besides putting a Ukrainian flag on your car people here couldn't care less in reality. Yet, EU citizens will be fighting for warmth this winter. Still gotta bring up US though. Focus on yourself and your own problems. We will continue supplying Javelins as you request and I will continue to invest in Texas Instruments. Salute.
They still believe russia os theconquered colony...hipocrites
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@@saundramichael-bey2212 awh yes let’s mention the US for no reason 😂
EU can choose what and whom to sanction, but russia does not have choice? Wow, what silly logic..!
EU sanctions are there to defend Ucraine.
Russia can make some noise when they got sanction but EU can't? Unbelievable
Always double standard
They could atleast say it, not blame it on some leak in a pump, that's just embarrassing.
That is stupid arrogance
UE and NATO imposed sanctions on the purchase of Russian oil from the beginning. Russia has the right to cut off gas to all unfriendly countries, it is their gas after all.
EU: We are going to sanction and embargo your energy exports on xyz date
Russia: Ok, we will shut off now
EU: 😯😲
You’re wrong. There are contracts in place. So, according to your logic, Lithuania should stop transit to Kaliningrad because ‘it’s their land, they can do what they want’. Ruzzia threatened nuclear escalation if Lithuania breaks this agreement but when ruzzia breaks an agreement, it’s up to them? Your logic is non existent
They'll show you when Europe flash-builds windmills and solar panels to power their energy needs....45 years from now.
@@mojo1388 You must be a European, shame on you. Was it correct to impose sanctions on Russia and expect them to dine with you on the same table? Stupid. How many contracts EU have broken on Russia based on their stupid backfiring sanction?
@@mojo1388 That's russian logic.
Same way that it's ok for them to invade Ukraine because NATO went back on their verbal agreement to not include former warsaw pact states in NATO, but it's perfectly fine for Russia to ignore the written agreement they made with Ukraine to respect their sovereignty.
Russians don't need to follow agreements, but others do.
That's Russian logic.
Well, the EU tried to weaponise heavy sanctions on Russia and Russia has its right to weaponise energy on the EU. Of course, the EU will get thru' the winter but let's see at what cost?
EU: We are going to sanction and embargo your energy exports on xyz date
Russia: Ok, we will shut off now
EU: 😯😲
Eu reactions are like kids
Winter lasts only 3 months. You can get over it but depends on how bad it is. The bottom 80% will suffer more. But who cares in EU and US? Looks like they don't care. All the leaders are well of and can take the stress. Long term is the effect on industry. This is the crunch that Russia will impose on EU.
EU will be just fine. A few though years and they will pivot, it’s great for green energy. This energy crisis will just push innovation, however, ruzzia will be in deep trouble. They can’t sell the same quantities of gas to other countries, not in the EU. There is no infrastructure for that and we will see their suffering soon
Please stand for the German National Anthem:
"DU! DU HAST! ....DU HAST MICH!!!"
“ When you pray for rain, you gotta deal with the mud too “. We are not enjoying, we are just shocked to see the level of arrogance of European leaders .
How do you feel about Russia saying Ukraine has no right to exist? That it's full
of Nazis. Is it ok for your nearest neighbour to invade your country? Would you
press for "peace" and let them take over your nation? Didn't think so..
You said it all
it's their citizens that are suffering and not the European leaders.. they just talk about moral high ground and blame everything on Putin....... they are still having meetings in 6 stars hotels and having warm showers... Their citizens need to make sure the European leaders pay for their blunder.
meanwhile europe is russians biggest customer for gas, russia robbing their own wallet xD, Putin never was a smart man, and it shows again.
Our leaders are cowards. We should have stopped buying all Russian fuels back in February.
EU ..." We're going to take less of your stuff " Russia " Let us help you with that " 😂😂🤦
lol 😆 😂 🤣 😹
No better way of bringing it across
The EU: We're not going to buy your fascist gas. Russia: We're not going to sell it to you. Conclusion: Russia gets zero European money. Winner: Ukraine.
Putin is a moron .. soon the Russians will start a revolution…. Like he just keep digging 🤦♂️
🤣🤣🤣
Russia said they shut down the pipeline for maintence but also said they were missing parts because of the sanctions so the maintence will take longer. What they said seems reasonable.
In the face of unreasonableness . Yep
Its supposed to be maintained in Canada but due to sanctions it cant be performed. The current heat wave is helping things but as they say... winter is coming.
This new faulty turbine - Gazprom say it was a joint inspection with Siemens. And siemens signed the document agreeing the turbine had a problem.
Seimens later issued a denial that they were not present nor have they signed any such document.
Can Gazprom produced the document?
If they do then it seems there is a plot by the German Govt & Siemens to destroy Germany.
Considering the Canadians are withholding 5 more turbines (they sent one of 6 to Germany) and Portovaya is down to one functioning compressor out of five with no backup (the system has 5 large turbines, 1 large emergency-only backup turbine and 2 small ones - there is one large and one small left), and now the last turbine has an oil leak. So, its either maintain or blow up the compressor station. Scholz begged the Canadians to send them back during his visit, but who knows how long that will take. It's a critical issue.
Reasonable except that Seaman's the company that would do the repair said they have not been contacted about doing any repairs or maintenance.
Yes it's unbelievable Russia wouldn't just sit and accept all these sanctions without doing anything. The nerve 🙄
Russia has had enough nonsense. Wait for China to get fed up too.
Yes, we are all already impatient to see when it starts taking =))))
European government love it. All their shares are through the roof while they cream in taxes
Not to mention the idea that other energy producing nations would not balk at setting a "price cap" precedent is incredible.
These sanction ain't make Russia flinch at all. It actually back fired
Why does Europe, especially Germany chooses to conveniently forget that they first sanctioned Nordstream 2 pipeline first? That means Russia's actions have been responsive. This is an economic war first declared by Europe under the leadership of the US. Russia has taught the world something new. Sanctions can be rendered useless if targeted nations are strategic and United with own allies
Maybe because Russia has been sanctioned for their aggressive behaviour and illegal invasion? Huge difference to why Germany is being sanctioned but ok, lets act like its the same thing just to spew some nonsense.
@@adolphusputin-5605 For u the West has sole right to distribute the certificate which invasion is is legal and which are not.
@@birenbackchi7942 Europe didn't decide that, the country being invaded did. They asked for the sanctions and the EU obliged. Don't tell me a elected president of a democratic country declaring this an invasion is the EU's work, thats just stupid af
@@adolphusputin-5605 You know what's stupid AF? Actually thinking Europe imposed the sanctions because Ukraine asked them too.
@@adolphusputin-5605 Nobody ever punished the West' s aggression in Iraq, Libya etc.
Germany now declares that it will support Ukraine till the end even at the cost of pain to their own citizens. All Russia wanted was neutral Ukraine and autonomy to 2 Donbass regions which was outright denied . Germany which guaranteed the Minsk Accord did not pressurise Ukraine to implement the same for 8 long years. Now admission of Ukraine into NATO is not happening and the 2 Donbass regions have become independent.
Had the West and Ukraine acceded to the 2 reasonable demands this war would not have happened.
If sanctions were to punish Russia then Russia has the right to find counter measure.The arrogance of Eu is Russia should accept sanction and don't complaint.Russia should havr cut off the supply of gas from as early as when the sanction started.
Russia has been too generous to the EU. I agree too. They should have shut bery early.
They can't do that, because if they did, they will have time to recover and making plan for russian alternative supply. That why they do cutting gas by surprise. Also, they need money because US freeze Russia's money.
Russia has an high IQ, doing thing in the right place and in the right time. Playing CHESS.
Slava Russia.
You are right.
EU deserves what it sow.
You are right
Your view is pretty narrow minded. This is a contractual agreement - ruzzia signed a contract with the EU, the same way they signed a Kaliningrad transit agreement. Ruzzia threatens to take military measures against EU if they won’t honour Kaliningrad agreement but then EU has to be ok with ruzzia not honouring gas agreement? Ruzzia is an arrogant, terrorist country
I would never sell a thing to those that give weapons used to kill my people, threaten my country and impose sanctions on my economy.
Why should anyone accept such things? Will India or US accept such actions from other countries and keep making deals with them at reasonable prices?
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Stop blaming a victim for defending itself or looking for help. Russia should have not invaded Ukraine in the first place. Putin made the biggest mistake ever.
@@Blanka1100 Are you talking about the Russian and the rest of the minorities that the ethno-fascist Kiev regime wants them dead?
You know, the same regime that chosen a fascist that murdered hundred of thousands of minorities, as the Ukraine national hero?
The same fascist regime that brag about genocide against minorities on national television claiming "Ukraine is for Ukrainians"?
Yes, I think you are confusing who is defending from who.
Do you see any uprising in the Russian occupied territories? Or do you see millions of Ukrainians fleeing the abusive mandatory enrolment from the Kiev fascist dictatorial regime?
You know, the same regime that banned all the opposition parties, imprisoned journalists and assassinated minority leaders.
If you don't want your people die maybe don't send them as soldiers to another country.
@@Rig0r_M0rtis You mean do not defend your own nationals being murdered and abused by the ethno-fascist Ukrainians?
Or not recover the historically Russian lands that were given to Ukraine for free by various Ukrainian born Bolsheviks and Communists of the past?
Dude... lol.
You do not know much about Ukraine and how it was formed, just like Yugoslavia, by Bolsheviks, from stitching together lands and nationalities.
When Crimea was part of Ukraine, these minorities combined had over 60% of the population! And yet the "true Ukrainians", aka the ethno-fascists in power after 2014, claimed the entire land is theirs and theirs alone "Ukraine for Ukrainians".
Oh, and to make sure everyone got the memo they chose a genocidal fascist as the country's national hero. Someone that murdered hundred of thousands of minorities in order to "purify" Ukranie....
And EU delivers weapons to these people....
I am a bit confused. I thought that EU put sanctions on the Russian oil and gas. And also cut Russia from payment systems, just as banned TV stations and tourism and so on.
So, how can Germany import oil and gas from Russia? And if it did, how could it pay for it as well?! Did I misunderstand the sanctions?
Gas was not sanctioned ofc.
Also froze the 50 bln of Russian monetary investments
@@janestones323 300 hundred billion dollars in frozen (stolen) reserves in addition to the50 billion. US business as usual
Sanctions are only for those unimportant stuffs. Anything that is really important and can affect survival like gas or fertilizers are not sanctioned. So you can see exactly how efficient sanctions are.
Well, that was the reason why Mr. President of Russia kinda helping EU out by telling them to pay for gas ⛽️ in Rubles instead by other's means..😂😄😉..
Stanislav Mitrakhovich's analysis is brilliant. It was the EU that started the sanctions against Russia, now Russia is retaliating and no one should blame them.
This is dirty politics and the narrow-mindedness of EU politicians.
@@pushpendrarajput382 as opposed to Putins genocide?
@@leeii337 genocide?!!! Let's talk US and NATO foreign policies around the world!!! 1 million dead in Iraq to name one!!!! Your a clown
@@leeii337 Just like commercial products, the word genocide has been hit by inflation too it seems.
But Russia started the war and the EU was retaliating to that
after Zelensky told Germany,/EU to stop ibuying Russian energy, he should thank the people living in Germany and UK for their support to stop energy imports from Russia (^_^)
Ya but Ukraine is still buying gas from Russia , so think 🤔 why this is happening. Covid didn’t work so now an energy crisis, coincidentally? I don’t think so
He should thank Putin
@@damianvisser977 No. Putin is not guilty.
Russian gas is still flowing through Ukraine to Europe using Soviet gas pipes built log ago.
Guess why Europe and Ukraine don't mention that fact?
Clown 🤡 ruling from Kiev Ukraine all eu, USA,I mean total world listening this drugged,product of Zionist,usa puppet doog made to Ukrainian, Ukrainian choose clown, clown need circus, turned Ukrainian into circus 🎪
you weaponised trade, they weaponised gas. Fair, very fair indeed.
Of course. And both sides know it. And both sides will make a complaint and noise about it.
Not just weaponize, but including daylight robbery.
@@jarls5890 The only one who's complaining is Europe.
@@OutragedPufferfish lool most of Russians are already leaving in poverty.. no Eu money= no economy for Russians .. plus sanctions lol .. eu will survive.. with putin in power russia is doomed
... your sentiment is spot on: "why wouldn't Putin retaliate for the sanctions" but the situation is even more pathetic because Putin (by the way, if anyone uses "Putin" in a counterargument in this crisis, you'll know it's Propaganda) ok, so, Putin did actually not retaliate nor leverage gas and oil for political pressure ... Gazprom did not withheld delivery and rather stuck to its contractual obligations ... as early as May Ukraine’s gas grid operator cut Russian gas flow to Europe ... gas flow via the Nord Stream 1 pipeline, was reduced in July because of a faulty turbine which was sent for repair and withheld for over a month in Canada (Siemens) and still is not delivered and now, September, Nord Stream 1 is shut down (initially for only three days) for planed scheduled maintenance but being shut down entirely and indefinitely over discovered oil leaks on three vital turbines ... well, propagandist will say: such are all made up problems by Putin to create political pressure, yet totally disregarding the fact that there is a fully operational (Russia paid) pipeline ready to jump in, which is Nord Stream 2 ... it's even worse, the 80% (plus) storage Germany claimes to have is actually Gazproms own gas storage service buffer in Rehden/Germany which Germany stole (took over by decree) in April 2022 ... absurdly enough Germany still has a contractual low price option on Russian gas, some of it Germany sold (backflow) to Poland for a higher price (Poland and Bulgaria stopped paying for gas via the Gas for Ruble scheme and was shut off in April) ... so, who is the fool now ... it's all soo pathetic it's unbelievable ...
The EU: I don’t want to pay that much for energy
Russia: No problem *turns off gas
The EU: *gasps in horror
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They never paid much, but Germany sold it for much more 😂.
@@eyes232 well, now they won’t have to pay anything at all, cos there won’t be any gas😉
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHA
The irony of Europe preferring to depend on private foreign fossil fuels over clean domestic nuclear is hilarious.
EU GOT NO URANIUM, ALL MINES ARE IN KAZAKHSTAN, RUSSIA AUSTRALIA AND NORTH AMERICA
Apparently you have no idea who controls nuclear fuel market
@@junglesuperstar9270 EU should not have allowed them so much control. They let their own energy future slip through their hands because of some weird girl.
So I can tell a gas station to cap the price they charge me? How stupid strategy demanding the seller to cap the price
And they the one justify supply and demand price
well you can, if the gas station did not have any one else to sell to. there were reports this week that russia was burning a lot of gas at the finnish border. this si done becue that have a exxes of gas, and no where to pump it, thus its a total loss. Russia could go the LNG rout. but there are some major problems. first is the climate, not good for LNG, second is the technology, that is from the west, AKA not available, and the third is the economy, its in a downwards spiral so no new pipes to other places for a long while.
@@martinrubin6406 did you say that eu is the only customer?
@@martinrubin6406 that’s called delusional lad
I have a feeling the price will not be capped.
They don't want to be dependent on Russian gas.
So they should stop depending on Russian gas.
How?
They will be when they buy it from China (at twice the expense) because China buys it from Russia!
there is always freedom shale oil and gas from the US available.
Thats his point .they are dependent .
@@willengel2458 at five times the delivered price of russian gas .those europeans dont seem to be competent at math..
I’m a mechanical engineer with speciality in gas compressors, almost 28 years experience, I’ve worked with and an decades long friend with one of Siemens turbine contract engineers he’s an ex Rolls Royce turbine engineer. This is the last drive turbine for the compressors that was operational, the turbine is basically a JET ENGINE! It has two high pressure oil lubricant leaks, news is LYING, Siemens would NEVER AUTHORISE isolation of two lubricant lines, and even if they did the turbine engineer would NEVER sign it off for safe operation it would suffer a catastrophic failure with high torque load very quickly!!!
Russia may be laughing and enjoying this but these units are multi million dollar pieces of equipment. Not Gazproms responsibility that the west is illegally placing sanctions on gas turbines..
You know this, Mick, and have said it. How many will understand it and would they care unless it did fail?
Lot of cynical thinking out there.... sadly some of the thinkers are politicians.
Illegally ?? WTF is wrong with u ?? R U a TROLL ?? U sound like one ! F Russian Energy !! Europe is BETTER OFF without it !!!! It’s BLACKMAIL and you talk of “ ILLEGAL SANCTIONS “ ?? SERIOUSLY ? THOSE EVIL KILLERS DESERVE MORE SANCTIONS !!!
EU: We are going to sanction and embargo your energy exports on xyz date
Russia: Ok, we will shut off now
EU: 😯😲
Glad majority of the world has not stupidly sanctioned Russia. That is why the current crazy inflation or should I say recession are exclusive to western countries. Amen to that. Thank God my elected leader are good friends with Russia
@@eric5901 I'm not crying for you EU 😆
Europe is sending armament to Ukraine against Russia and they expect to give them gas. I think this is really stupid
Nobody in Europe expects russian gas. Europe was ready for this stop
@@nicolocadamuro9988 So then whats the complaint???? Where will Europe get the gas from now???
@@jimlewis2395 all the other countries 😂
Russian gas was only 35% of the total gas
@@nicolocadamuro9988 Oh really??? We shall see about that one 35 percent is quite a large chunk They will pay through the nose but oh, thats right, you guys couldnt care less if mafia criminals extort you and force you to pay 10 times the amount for energy Fine, have fun!
Lady, pretending she is an expert, is just a liar. All actions by Russia are just a reaction to European insanity. After Russian property, assets and bank accounts has been stolen by Europeans, Russia has only one legally clean line of reaction: literally follow to all existing contract and do not sign any amendments to existing contracts or make new contracts until all problems with assets will be resolved.
Russia must withdraw from Ukraine or be forced to do so with Western supplied weapons. While EU must stop all trade with Russia.
@@Isinlor This Ukraine's tragedy, those why may go and fight or recure civilians from shelled buildings are already busy with sitting on coaches and working as information trolls.
Why not? You wanted to play them out so they strike first. All fair in love and in war?????
Germans seems to have started believing their own lies like "gas trade is purely economical". It never was and we should have sanctioned gas imports from Russia back in February.
Does the EU expect Russia not to retaliate after 7 tranches of sanctions and the eighth is on the pipeline?
Maybe the russians should stop invading their neighbours. The only thing Putin achieved by now is Finland and Sweden joining NATO. Congrats.
Energy crisis turned into sentiment :- a k a demonstration of energy crisis. [all over e. u. ]
* So now the 'leader ' are lethargic or keep to shrugged trilogies facing the societies!
@@wolfgang2291 Oh please stop trying to derail from the real reason. If it is not for NATO eastern expansion to the doorstep of Russia, which was promised by NATO in the late 80s would never happen, invasion of Ukraine would not happen. In the 60s Russia was going to station missiles in Cuba and America got super nervous and almost went to war with Russia. So you see, America expects no threats at her doorstep so can Russia expects the same thing
@@Alamak2070 Is russia really afraid of NATO ? Are they afriad NATO will invade and conquer moscow ? This is bs and everyone know this. USA and Russia are the biggest nuclear powers and neither of them, will risk a nuclear war.
@@wolfgang2291NATO is run by America and the rest are just puppies. If you think NATO expansion has no hidden agenda you are too naive. America loves naive people
This was a thoughtful conversation. No propaganda at all. Loved it
EU: We are going to sanction and embargo your energy exports on xyz date
Russia: Ok, we will shut off now
EU: 😯😲
@@eric5901 lol!
I need some of the drugs you're on!
This is ALL propaganda!
@@eric5901 LOL!
It's always propaganda. There's no way to report on anything political, or involving anyone whose job is political in nature and have no propaganda come through.
Europe was the first not to comply with the contract of Nord Stream 2.
I don’t understand how we punish Russia but are shocked when they respond. They have other buyers and the doom of russias economy never materialized. The Russian ruble and markets are stable and they can wage this war indefinitely. We overplayed our hand and underestimated their economic resilience
Search . ' Why Is Ukraine the west's Fault . '
Putin wanted to show EU leaders how to effectively apply sanctions
EU still on their 8th attempt
Europes gas imports by russia was around 50% of its demand, but europe made up of 83% of russias gas exports. Wonder why Putin stopped delivering economic data on his country, arent you? No you are not? Did you even know, that Putin is just cherry picking data? Maybe you should think about it. So europe looks like its suffering more than russia, but the end will show what reality was. Europe is alone on this, half of the globe is brainwashed by russias/chinese desinformation campaign because they can control the data that flows out of their countries like all good dictatorship.
So many idiots here ....
And now russia can barely make functioning cars, and people are complaining there arent enough buttons. yea the sanctins are working, but Pootin is desperate to show otherwise.
@@martinrubin6406 what? 🤡🤡🤡
They make European a bunch of stupid people. The Politicians will not suffer the winter the ordinary European people do
Russia’s actions are mild and measured compared to the actions of the West.
Raping toddlers and women in Ukraine and threatening the whole world with nukes? I wouldn’t say that it’s ‘measured’
winter is just around the corner.
@@willengel2458 plenty of LNG, we be fine
"mild and measured" literally invaded their neighbours and commit genocide
@T Peterson
It was agreed with neighbors at the collapse of the Soviet Union yet, but the neighbors do not understand normal relations.
Price caps is anti trade and anti fair trade. Why Europe does not put a price caps on all of its products including its technology and military equipment.
The pice cap is not intended just at Russia but to "punish" OPEC for failing to increase production to lower prices. Draghi and Yellen then decided the G7 should be a buyers club dictating prices. The cap would force OPEC to cut prices to compete. Of course, this will have a major backfiring effect and is likely to push the GCC and OPEC+ to end the petrodollar.
Who cares about fair trade when Russia is invading sovereign country. We must ban all trade with Russia.
Cluster bombing Ukranian schools and hospitals is also anti trade. Why would you think that when Russia invades our neighbour and disregards the rules of war, and the rules of decency, that we would then be most concerned with "fair trade". Russia can withdraw from Ukraine if its so concerned with its trade.
@@peterpeterpeter6315 dead brain comment
@@peterpeterpeter6315 Russia doesn't care, you can put all the price caps you want and they will just pull their oil off the market.
Isn't it just nonsensical asking if Russia is weaponising gas when it's the collective west that started doing so through sanctions?
wasn't europe shouting to whole word don't buy russian oil.
now when russia has stopped supplies they are crying it's not fair , what a hypocrisy.
Who is crying?
Modern day Europeans are a certain level of stupid, not seen in previous generations..Same here in America
It's like ....EU took baby steps to remove Russian Gas dependency... In the other side Russia said.... let's close the tap...lol
but that tap is a big source of income for the russians, so its hurting themselfs.
And in doing so Russia teaches Europe an important lesson it had forgot in the 90s - never make yourself reliant on Russia, cause they will invade your neighbours and then you are stuck in an impossible dilemma. Europe will of course survive the winter, even if painfully, but will it ever commit to important trade with Russia again? Probably not in decades. And China/India is not buying Russian oil out of the kindness of their hearts. What happens when you only have one customer to buy your product, and he is far away? long term reduction in profits.
Russia violated the contract by demanding payment in roubles. Russia proved they were an unreliable business partner (after 50 years as supplier going back to the Soviet time). Russia started their war of aggression against Ukraine showing they are an entirely unreliable business partner. Russia deserves to be punished more than merely sanctions.
@@deanegoltermann155 I dont even know why we are talking about this conflict as if its a contractual trade disagreement - They are murdering their way through Europe, so we sanction them. next step is boots on the ground cause we will not have dictator roaming Europ.
@@deanegoltermann155 why in the first place Nato putting its military installations near Russia?? Are they dumb ?? Why to provoke a sovereign nation?? And by imposing sanctions upon sanctions which any one who eat food can understand it is to weaken Russia's economy...we are talking about millions of people ..then Russia has every right to reply back on the save way.. it's completely EUs fault to be a puppet of US..
The west forgot they were not dealing with Africa this time :)
Well russia dos have a much smaller gdp than africa so you are very correct!
@@Wulture How come, so small GDP has been causing so much influence at the World?
@@andreisokolenko7719 you just summed it up. It has been a big influence in the world. After USSR collapsed it ceased from being important. All it has now are nukes and energy. No important manufacturing and outdated techonology. Russia got too absorbed with oil and gas income it forgot to actually use the money to modernize its economy. Its no wonder there is no high tech industry in russia. Russia has all the things necessary for it but alas.
No comparison with Africa. Africa is a continent and not a country, when you say Russia's gpd is smaller than Africa.
@@Wulture You did not answer my question.
How so small GDP causes so much turbulence in the World?
EU just got what they asked for 🤷♂️ Stay warm 🥶🤡
Lets see how the russians do without money in the future. What is russia producing next to oil, gas and weapons ? Right ! Nothing !
@@wolfgang2291 🥶🤡
🌬️
Exactly Let them enjoy it
I commend Al Jazeera for being about to chair debates on sensitive subjects in a reasonably fair manner. Sadly this doesn't happen elsewhere.
Journalism is rare.
Now u know why many people dont like Al Jazeera.. because those naive ppl doest like to hear the truth..
DW is pretty good on its coverage.
@@scholargnome
DW is definitely biased when it comes to Russo Ukrainian war. DW is German so it is understandable. AJ is Qatari so they have no agenda to be biased in case of the Ukraine Russia war, they are biased when it comes to other topics. But even then AJ is the most unbiased in general compared to other news outlets.
AJ promotes A Genda.. not N ews
You want sanctions --- you got your result ! BTW , You supported Zelensky when he yelled -- we do not need dirty Russian gas.
True!
EU is putting in a sanction to themselves. 😂
A logical point
Exactly These idiots deserve all the pain that they themselves asked for
Precisely! The reason is political Idealism, the most stupid reason of all. As it does not give the control Eu wishes for.
Wasn’t the sanction imposed on Russia included buying oil , gas , fertiliser, and other commodities . Why is the EU insisting that as alternative sources are not available , Russia must sell its oil and gas . EU deserves reaping what it sows ……..
Russia invaded a country, fogot?
@@awpetersen5909 well, US and NATO do it so many times. Forgot?
@@awpetersen5909 Russia preempted NATO proxy invasion of the Donbass.
@@lilikkrismantoro2027 whataboutism!
Their was always a reason, dictatorship etc. And don't tell me, that Russia fights Nazis in Ukraine! Absurd, the government is just devouring Ukraine. Nothing but cruel imprrialism, brother. By the way, I don't want any attacks or wars on any country.
@@awpetersen5909 Spoken like a true hypocrite.
Seems logical, appropriate and fair.
Nothing is logical and normal in the West anymore. That is why vast majority of world population that lives outside the West (United States and Western Europe) want to abandon the West and join high growing economies like China, India, Russia, Indonesia.
Just like the war on Ukraine?
@@Rig0r_M0rtis Rigor Mortis, What do you know about Bio Weapon Labs, Rigor Mortis?
@@rayerickson7614 Nothing, I am a mechanical engineer. Why? What do you know about bio weapon labs?
@@Rig0r_M0rtis Yeah, it's not reported, then it had never happened
I like the hypocrisy of the European countries, the EU to be exact, in accusing Russia of using Oil and LNG as a weapon..
I suppose those sanctions on Russia were not meant to go unchallenged !?.
There's an expression that says "You made your bed, go sleep in it " or words to that effect.
What is the problem? Germany has for years been telling their very reliable gas partner that they want to wean themselves off Russian gas. How did they expect Russia to feel.
Now Russia has made their dreams come true which must be perfect for Germany. Germany should thank Mr Putin for helping them go green.
I am sure that their European values will save them. 😀
EU has not been 'dependent on Russian gas'; they have been dependent on 'Russian cheap gas'. They could have at any time diversified to LNG from other sources, but at such a high price that it made absolute nonsense. US switching to other sources for LNG will transform whatever is left of the EU into a third world country. They have prospered solely on the basis of reliable and low Russian energy costs.
By the same token, the US/EU has prospered solely on the backs of cheap Chinese labor costs. If the western world keeps tweaking the Dragon's tail, they may find themselves totally cut off from Chinese manufactured goods which will result in absolute chaos.
The western world is less than 20% of the world population. I am sure that Russia and China will figure out a way to survive and thrive on the basis of trade with the remaining 80% of the world population.
The US and the EU are essentially bankrupt with unsustainable debt/GDP ratios, even the fumes they are running on from Russia and China will soon evaporate.
deltasquared7777, Not all countries in the EU buy their gas from Russia.
@@lynnettemurphy8243 SO WHAT?? Although EU industry is dependent on cheap gas to maintain any competitive standing in the world, gas is not the only problem with the EU. The EU is an entity totally controlled by Brussels/US. When the EU collapses, it will collapse as a unit and the individual countries will have to pick whatever bones are left after the US has devoured its flesh and sucked its blood dry.
They are 20% of the world population but 50% percent of the world GDP. If they don’t buy from you ie RUS or China then the your economy will not be good. China cannot be number 1 economy if the west sanctioned them and do not buy from them
@@annle9671
GDP is not a valid indicator of the wealth of nations that have largely self-contained economies, which nations constitute a large proportion of the world outside of the US and Eu.
Fundamental world political structures and national economies are very rapidly changing, which is why it is advisable not to base future prediction on a world of the past that no longer exists. .
Note that even SEC Rule 156 requires mutual funds to tell investors not to base their expectations of future results on past performance before they invest.
When the EU has to buy American gas 13 times more expensive than Russian gas, they knew that Russian gas was CHEAP !
EU energy chief says Russia is using natural gas as a weapon ! If she did not know that putin was not using his leverage , She needs to voluntarily leaves her job !
She expects Russia to take sanctions without biting back? she is stoopid...
She knew. After they invaded Ukraine, we all knew. Our problem with Putin now, is not that he is using leverage, its that he invaded our neighbour. That means that Russia is not stable enough to depend on. And that lesson is something that will hurt Russia for decades to come.
@@peterpeterpeter6315 Do you remember how the whole world placed sanctions on the US and UK after the 2003 Iraq invasion. Did the US/UK suddenly become unreliable.
@@michaelotieno6524 whataboutism. Your asking Europeans to accept Russia invading Europe because some other country invaded some other continent once? A lot of European countries objected to that. And for all their faults, the US military has nothing like the Wagner group. Russia is a totalitarian nation and their army known for brutality and rapes, Western armies dont even come close. really is the only argument Russian has isnt ir- someone else has done something wrong too. Well i dont remember Russia objecting very much, not as much as they would have if EU invaded Belarus.
@@peterpeterpeter6315 No i am asking why Europe didn't impose sanctions when that other country invaded another country in another continent? I am not telling Europe to accept anything in am asking Europe to stop pretending to be moral and ethical overlords of the world.
Go read about Blackwater and Nisour Square attacks and how they were pardoned i see no difference between blackwater and Wagner.
We'll done finally had slap with own sanctions. Do politicians think before do such harm to your own citizens.
They don't care, as long as the USA is happy.
Eu will get through it .. let’s see what happens to Russians economy lol .. no money .. sanctions etc .. eu still have enough reserves anyways so russia is just trying to safe face ., they will have to turn the tap on sooner or later 😂
@@melmatrix8212 Wow .. forgot to take the medication for your delusion?
bcoz uncle sam is happy
I fine im Eu i think we should bomb Moskva like Russia do 2
Europe is getting what they asked for, so what's the problem??
NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST CUT GAS SUPPLY BECAUSE WE SAID YOU SHOULD😭
Getting what? You make it sound like every country in Europe is depending on Russia gas but thats just so far from the truth. Theres only like a handful countries in Europe who buys gas from Russia and Germany who's the biggest one, the gas only represents measly 10% of their power produce. The other 90% they produce themself by coal, nuclear power, solar and so on. Stop making it sound like the Russian gas makes up all of Europes power produce. 😂
@@michaelevervall9889 Germany's major source of power is coal, and coal can only be transported if you have ample supply of petrol. No petrol, no coal can be brought to the generators.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj Theres really no shortage of petrol and the coal transports are most of the times done by train.
@@michaelevervall9889 I don't know where you got that information from, because that's definitely not true. If that were the case, EU members wouldn't be going to Russia and China for petrol to begin with.
Coal by the way has been in short supply in Europe since 2021, ever since the summits where countries pledged to spend fortunes on alternative energies. The only countries that have recovered from the coal shortage are the ones who went back on their promises such as China.
Well done Al Jazeera, no bias and very balance discussion. Please keep it up.
It's refreshing to see three people from Russia, UK, and Germany agreeing on the key issues, but obviously the EU leaders don't want to correct course. Let's see what they do as the winter starts and the protests begin.
EU: We are going to sanction and embargo your energy exports on xyz date
Russia: Ok, we will shut off now
EU: 😯😲
Eric: posting same joke under every comment.
@@upnorth2421 it’s facts, not a joke
@@eric5901 no need to flood comment-section with one comment, whatever it is. Simply bad form.
Yoh you mean to tell me that in the middle of European winter people will actually go out. That place is ruthless when it comes to winter
Let see if they don't start looting Hungarian gas storage in the coming months, since Hungary is the only EU country that able to keep their gas from Russia and now they start to hoard those gas...
I think very likely, they will say SHARE SHARE to cover up their big mistake.
They're already trying to screw with Spain and take their reserves.
They already try to beg and plead with Norway to give their gas away for cheap prices, but Norway is not at all interested.
@@D64nz Bullshit, Norway already supplies EU countries to market prices. Denmark build a pipeline to Norway and gets gas soon. Norway itself, like the Netherlands, improves its capacity to supply its gas.
@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl Yeah, did you know the comparison between the "market price" they paid now and "Russian price" they've got before the war? Yes they do have money to buy Norwegian gas at the current market price, that's why they can fill 85% of all their gas storage (aside from looting gazprom tank storages in Germany too as their majorities contributor of their reserves currently), how about the people who served as the "market" that buy the gas? Surely asking bunch of people who get used of using cheap gas for 30 years to buy their gas at "real" market price is not an easy things to do,especially among the industrialist...
Excellent, great job Russia.
Its always funny when Europe complains of dependence on russian gas. If you need a gas and you dont have it in your country you will be dependent one way or another. You can stop to buy from Russia but you will have to buy from someone else anyway. And thas someone else will have a leverage that was russian before. Besides that "someone else" already have Europe in his pocket.
Almost nobody in Europe buys gas from Russia, just a handful countries and with Germany as the biggest buyer the gas they buy still only represents 10% of their power produce. The other 90% they produce themself by coal, nuclear power, solar, wind and so on. It's just the media who makes is sound worse then it is. 😂
Am a Zambian TH-camr saying that your Guests are very highly informed, I like the way they have analyzed issues
The impact is not just rationing. Its also strikes, civil unrest, and the replacement of leaders.
In Russia? I do hope so.
Not very likely, consider which countries we're talking about.
Every single citizen in those countries know exactly why the gas is cut off and the vast majority of them stand with Ukraine. They'll be fine with rationing.
Strikes, unrest and the like only come when people feel wronged by their government.
@@Oddball_E8 exactly. We support our politicians in this. Fascist imperialism has already destroyed Europe once, so we know what our options are.
@@upnorth2421
70,000 in Prague alone today. More to come winter time
@@ciybersal9833 you know how big Europe is? I know sauron is doing its best to cause havoc everywhere. But most people are level-headed and will endure.
First Sanctions and now price capping, Europe is still saying that Russia is weaponizing gas. They should look in the mirror.
Friendly countries getting a discount on oil and gas is totally fair, because they didn’t strain relations with their supplier. Such a simple logic, and yet smart European leaders are still missing the point.
Well, Russia is weaponizing gas, like Europe is weaponizing trade through sanctions. Europe should learn not rely to much on Russia for energy and Russia should learn that when they decide to invade other countries the sanctions will be severe.
@@jenspettersen7837 European industry will die without Russia
@@TheAzizulhuq no
@@jenspettersen7837 it is a fact that natural gas is cleanest among fossil fuel and with the pipeline it is the cleanest transportation as well
India's Deal For Cheap Russian Oil Is Morally Bankrupt. The moral issue is black and white - an aggressive powerful country has invaded a smaller one and is deliberately murdering it's civilians, destroying it's civilian infrastructure to secure the terrority for itself. Would you sell your own parents if the price was right?
And 12,000 sanctions, including against the gas sector, are not weapons, of course.
Europeans are very naive. You impose sanctions on Russia and expect them not to respond 😂
Nuke pootin!
Please. The line of events is wrong. 8:50 first of all, Russia invaded a sovereign country. What was then expected ? Europe to stay shut ? Next would be Moldavia… it will be a dificult winder but we will survive. Chose freedom and democracy over cheap gas. 🇺🇦 🇪🇺
Let's see how many you die this winter for democracy and freedom.
Tedious! EU & NATO deny they were provoking Russia late last year: now Russia denies it is using gas as a weapon
The hypocrisy
If I have something scarce to sell, it would be strange to have possible buyers to be the final decision maker on the price! Common Sense!
World gone backwards, pain everywhere for People,not politics.
EU: We are going to sanction and embargo your energy exports on xyz date
Russia: Ok, we will shut off now
EU: 😯😲
@@eric5901 LPG gas? wonder if America has new ports that can send over LPG gas. you are a ignorant man. America started the ports around 2014. We have more gas than we need. Thank you very much Putin.
It's a smal economic pain compared to people in Ukraine being constantly shelled. It this is the price we must pay to stop & destroy Russia, then so be it. The real pain will be felt in the third world where the war leads to inflation and food shortage. Europe will be affected, but not as much as poorer countries.
Hold on for a sec... Who put those puppets in positions? Yep, the People!
@@eric5901 Back to reddit with you
Europe: sanctions every commodity being exported to Russia.
Russia: sanctions one commodity being exported to Europe.
Europe: They're weaponising energy🤪
Why ? Because nobody wants to pay them! if you don't pay, you don't get
Europe also weaponsing sanction over Russia why not Russia weaponsing gas ?
Sanctions and Price cap are the bully tactics
no.... that would be bombing Ukraine
@@leeii337 wake up man usa /uk are the instigators - - Nato is the bully 70 years of USA interference - - Germany was forced to shut north stream 2 on pressure from USA was it not ? - - who's the bully then ?
@@leeii337 Bombing Nazis they had a chance but the west wants cannon fodder
Brandon says we will fight to the last Ukrainian
Invading a country IS a bully tactic.
Europeans response to Russia's stopped gas is senseless. Europe is fighting RUSSIA meaninglessly and thinks Russia has no rights. I think that is being crazy...They don't expect any retalisation whatsoever.
I can slap you but you a not allowed to slap me
Not expecting retaliation makes them more foolish. EU crying like a spoilt child. Ha! Someone need to tell them to grow up. This is what i find really funny. When Russia said they need to close due to maintenance for a short while, EU sat on its tail waiting patiently. An ordinary person like myself knew Russia will not reopen. I swear i thought so, that they will not turn the gas back on. Joke on EU. Ha! ha!
European privilege, low iq leadership or fuked in the head. peace no wars is a much better option for all.
Western european are entitled colonialists. Always been.
Stanislav is GREAT !
Russia does not lose leverage by turning off the tap, Russia proves exactly how much leverage it has and makes Europe acknowledge it. Russia only looses the leverage if it blows up the pipeline and destroys the oil and gas in the ground. As long as Russia still has oil and gas, it has leverage.
lose not loose
@@Landis_Grant edited. Thanks
@@toddgardner6355 There were two “loose” in your post.
Europe acted like a belligerent goon when imposing the sanction on Russia and behaving like a child whose Lollipop has been taken away!
They should grow up, if you deal a blow, you should be able to take two?
What a sense of being right in all situations?
It's Germans who are naive like children. The deal is simple - no trade with Russia until they stop destroying Ukraine.
@@Isinlor What about the same germans marched into Russia and killed so many russians and destroyed their villages and cities? Was that very democratic and justified? The truth is there is no clear cut white in world affairs and there are only shades of grey. Nations must do what is best for their citizens. But that needs good and responsible leaders. And that is very difficult to get. If democracy was strong, then unjust wars cannot HAPPEN. where are the checks and balances, even in US?
@@crusoerob8550 You do realize that I'm Polish? Germans and Soviet Russia attacked Poland in 1939. Poland lost 20% of population in that war, started by Germans and Russians. No, it was not justified.
The West/EU threw a boomerang at Russia. Now, the boomerang has come back, and the West/EU forgot to duck. Diplomats of Russia are playing chess and the West/EU is still trying to figure out how to play Checkers.
russia is playing duplo while the west plays technic.
@@aredub1847 no
Lavro eats them for breakfast
@@yurichtube1162 yerp
@@aredub1847 i doubt they can buy duplo in russia with all the sanctions
Nordstream2 was the backup in case Nordstream 1 required maintenance. Some of the maintenance parts also restricted due to sanctions. Another issue is also if Russia gives reasons for the shut down no one believes. What's coming is well deserved. SANCTIONS WORKS BOTH WAYS.
Nordstream 2 was an addition, not a backup for Nordstream 1. None of the maintenance parts are under sanction, the energy market so far was left out of the sanctions. Siemens Energy which did the maintenance also said that the current issue can be easily fixed and if necessary spare parts are already there to replace the damaged parts. With other words it is not even a big deal to get it fixed. Russia uses this pipeline which ran fine for 11 years as excuse now. Everybody knows that.
But as you correctly mentioned sanctions work both ways... and the flow of necessary money end with them.
@@SWATOPR8R1 Yeh I wonder. Pretty sure, Russia cannot afford to keep Nordstream 1 closed for long. While the EU can substitute Russian gas, the Russians have to invest heavily to get someone else to buy theirs.
@@SuperSampling Well, first they have to sell it cheaper because there is less demand for Russian gas (e.g. the large discount of oil for India is a prime example for this). Building pipelines to China or India takes many years and is very costly. Turning it into LNG requires to build new factories to liquify the gas which is not going to be easy since the tech products are being sanctioned. Even if they manage it it will take lots of time and money.... with the insecurity involved that the G7 impose a price limit which in the end would make shipping oil and gas almost impossible.
The EU is going to live with the higher prices eventhough it is going to be difficult. Russia on the other hand already today is consuming high amounts of its money reserves every month and on top of that half of these reserves can not even be used anymore.
What kind of leverage did Russia have with its gas on Europe, before Europe imposed sanctions? After emposing, should not be Europe expecting to have something imposed against it?
There is a notion in Russia that there is no point to cell anything to Europe since they can not buy anything in return! Would you keep selling stuff, while receiving in return candy wraps?
As they saying goes, the West plays poker, Russia plays chess.
The EU do know it's because of maintence. Seimans of Germany have signed off that the parts need maintenance offsite. The problem is the parts they sent to Canada got held up so long by the Canadians, and now they were just about to start to increase the flows again a new part has broken down. So now it will probably be the same issues with Canada holding on to the parts for a few months again. Meanwhile, winter is coming.
The biggest joke is the West trying to price cap oil. It's Russians resource and like the gas they can do with it wherever they like. They can sell on their terms, and the consumers can buy or not buy. The capitalists should be celebrating the free market in action, but now that it hurts them, they can only whinge.
This is not economical matter, but strategical. EU must not trade with Russia. Germans bypassing their own sanctions is just ridiculous. One thinker once said "capitalists will sell us a rope on which we will hang them". Well, we must not sponsor Russian army.
Freeloading time is over, getting raw materials for free, getting energy for free and really ungrateful on top of it
Everybody worships the false Gods of technology, but it is the resources who are the real Gods
You have a strange world view. Free you say?
@@Christian-re4dl Well, now energy cost 6 times more.., if it was not free, at least it was dirt cheap. the same goes for all other resources. Imagine if Africa was not weak, poor and caught in IMF and World bank debt traps. what would they charge for their resources, a pittance like now or a fair price? You are having an easy spendthrift kind of life in the West just by exploiting the global South including Russia strangely?!?)
@@alexlazar4738 I wasnt replying to you
I think that EU/NATO were counting on the Russian economy resembling Zimbabwe or Venezuela by now and us getting bountiful cheap energy. Now that hasn’t happened we’re really starting to panic…with good reason.
This discussion was very conclusive and informative. Good job Al Jazeera, world should have a way to know the truth.
The truth? Well she's still hidden, you always get a glimps of it only. What's good in this "crisis" is that my country will get away from natural gas much faster as in the past. In the end, Russia will have huge problems to sell enough gas and oil to other countries and wont reach the volume it sold to Europe. Yes it is a task for Germany and all other countries who still depend on gas supplies from Russia. And, Russia has no fleet to distribute LNG, no terminals, no pipeline to China or India. And I don't think China is that much interested to depend itself on Russia, also out of a long history of tensions with Russia. For now it looks bleak for European countries which use Russian gas, but that's a momentum only. And if we look at Russias dependencies on Western tech in all parts of its economy that bites Russia already and will become real difficult in the next two, three years! Even the used Western tech to get oil and gas out of the ground makes Russia very vulnerable with these sanctions. From drilling to turbines, to robots and producing lines, Russia uses western technology nearly everywhere!
Don't fantasize, there are no super technologies! In Far East China and Russia border across the Amur River and no special transport will be required there. In 2-3 years, Europe will fall into decline and smoke from coal to the condition of the streets of the Middle Ages! It's funny to read your comment
@@이주영-h5j9n Do you mean me? If so, you have to answer me and not him, the original comment. And you're funny af, not really! Apropos fantasies, your comment makes no sense dude. Live in reality, not in wishland where all wishes come true. You wish, but reality is something else!
A win-win situation! Europe can achieve energy independence, and China, India and developing countries in Asia and Africa can get cheap Russian energy.
Africa is a resource rich continent.
@@willengel2458 Africa can get cheap Russian energy and sell expensive energy to Europe like Saudi is doing.
India is don't care about the rest of the world. India is taking care of it's country and it's people 💕💕. That's what other countries should do, instead of following a group of countries that is trying to bully the world.
Russia is unable to sell the gas since there is no pipeline. And it can't finish the pipeline with the sanctions. So it flares the gas. I would call it a lose lose situation.
@@HundkatzeFisch why can't it 'finish the pipeline' russia is making billions a day, Europe paid for most of the war. 🤣
“General Winter” has rescued Russians in the past many times, now working again and showing muscles.💪
EU: Action reflect (sanction)😂..
US: trying to impress the world
Russia: showing the reality of weakness,. whoever dependence on the other countries
Russia: not really answering, but everything is falling apart
@@Tschernomor You mean like Ukraines lies? 🤔🤔
@@Tschernomor How is that upcoming winter planning, europoor?
Fantastic panel, AJ! Glad you got the Russian guy in this great discussion.
Europeans think that Russia will help them gradually rid themselves from Russian energy reliance! They think Russia will do it gradually and according to EU’s strategic plans: “we shut down Nord 2 and we fill our tanks first then we blackmail Russia for Nord 1, oh wait, why isnt Russia helping!!”
They are too much used to dealing with regimes that prioritize EU economy over their own countries’.
sounds more like a bunch of spoilt brats that think that they can kick, punch and bully around but still expecting to get their candies.
Diplomacy is the only solution to the problem. Not playing the blame game or doubling up to punish Russia. This Russian guy Stan talks alot of sense...
Putin doesn't do diplomacy.
@@poofighter3741 Ukraine is being crushed. Europe is in deep economic problem with this energy crisis. European governments are falling like dominos. Putin is growing stronger. Is time for MATO/EU to face reality they are not in a position of strength. Before it is too late...
@@eymeeraosaka2954 Putin is growing weaker and will be dead soon and as for cutting the gas supply off, this will only have the opposite effect to what he hopes it will achieve, in other words it will backfire on him, and he will end up with no revenue for his silly billy war effort and as for Russia winning the war against Ukraine let's wait and see, and if the thick c--t has the audacity to set one boot into Nato Soil then Woebetide him as he will be crushed like a cockroach under the boot of NATO's far superior forces heh heh.
Putin: Sanction me, I sanction you 🤷🏾
price cap should be imposed on US oil instead of russian oil since US would be the new long term source for EU and since EU had clearly decided to stop soonest possible the dependent on russian's oil. so the EU leaders hasnt act logically or reasonably at all by far in this sense. besides this, since russia is willing to sell its energy with discount to its friends , why cant US sells with discount as well to its allies ? China and india has intelligent leaders whom regards every country in this world as friends and would purchase oil from whichever offered better price. if EU do produce oil and offer better price than russia, i think China and India will definitely shift partial of their oil order to EU.
everyone is what he is doing don't blame others.
i love how Saudi is buying Russian oil
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selling "Saudi" oil.....
hahahaaa
Russian gas is cheaper due to shorter distance compared to America. America is a much less reliable supplier compared to Russia. The reason is America has chestnuts frying in every partof the world. They have conflicting interests all the time and when needed in self interest , think nothing of ditching their friends.
Europeans unions bullshit about not wanting Russian gas is bravado and nothing else. Their products are already overpriced and with high energy prices, their industries will close down. The normal German always has been living on a shoestring budget , its only the German state which is rich and first world.
After all the things Europe had done to Russia, you don't really need to ask why :Russia stopped gas supplies to Europe? LOL
What russia did was justice
I don't understand why we just didn't stop buying Russian gas ourselves. I guess Germans are just naive maybe they actually believed their lies that gas trade with Russia was not political. Russia must leave Ukraine or be forced to do it with Western supplied weapons. Besides Poland, we are still not delivering Ukraine proper offensive weapons.
All engineers and project planners understand that 24x7 critical systems need back-up, whatever the cause of the failure. NordStream-2 was designed to provide Europe and Germany with that security/redundancy. Hard to blame Russia for our decisions.
Nordstream 1 was basically running on 1 turbine out of 6 around the clock 24/7 of course it will cause problems like leaks and if not stop it could probably cause a much worse disaster for Germany and Russia gas plant
@@sparkie996 No, he is right. Nordstream 2 was planned precisely for the event of of problems with Nordstream 1 plus the closure of the final of Germany's 6 nuclear plants (3 in 2021 and 3 in 2022). The idea was to move onto gas-plants and keep energy flows constant in the event of technical problems.
The real situation is that Canada revealed during Scholz's visit that they withheld not just 1 but 5 more turbines (6 total) of the 8 required for the functioning of NS1 under Ukrainian pressure. So, the compressor station at Portovaya is down to one compressor out of five working with no back-up system, and the leak is on the last working large turbine. So, until they receive the equipment from Canada, nothing can be done. The reason that gas is being flared/burnt, is that gas cannot be suspended midair indefinitely as pressure builds if not pressurized into the pipeline and can cause explosions and a major environmental catastrophe. This isn't Russian bot stuff.
I had to do a report, and got all the real information and had a long chat with Enbridge Canada on pipelines and compressor stations, and that is the situation faced at Portovaya.
An eye for an eye. What did Europe expect ?
Apparently, Europeans have their heads up their rear ends
Sanction can be a weapon. Why can't gas be a weapon? It's a fair game.???
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Errors: 21:43 *Nordstream 2 is finished, checked up and ready* to satisfy *all* our needs here in Europe. But USA prevented Germany from starting its operation. Why?!! It does not seem to be "Putin's strategy".
*Wrong number:* There were 120,000 of us demonstrating here in Prague (real number given by Czech police), but mass media reduced this number to 70,000 (=partial censorship).
21:43 Cease-fire is not enough. This war must be finished through diplomatic negotiation.
Viktor R, What was the protest in Prague for? Missed that on the news.
We are not morons. Nordstream 2 will never open. If nothing comes over Nordstream 1 then nothing will come at all. We will not paying Putins game
@@lynnettemurphy8243 The protest was for demission of the government that doubled the price of energies (in spite of our overproduction/export of electric energy thanks to supply of nuclear fuel from Russia), started unprecedented inflation, ignored our experts' advice to buy back previously our gas underground storage, refused to give our experts mandate to negotiate better conditions for gas import via alternative pathway, for demission of the government that doesn't care for their own people and is controlled from abroad instead; is encumbering the whole country with more and more debts e.g. by buying F-35 fighter jets that are worse than our Gripens, but are capable of carrying nuclear warfare thus turning our country into military target, for demission of the government that is arrogant and rude calling the people Russian trolls just because we want peace rather than supporting bloodshed... For real democracy and freedom of speech.
@@lynnettemurphy8243 And on September 28th was another one, and the next protest will be on Oct. 28th and more... This is just addendum to my previous long answer - if it is not displayed, please comment me again. Have a nice day
if want to stop war then peace diplomacy should be come first priority from the begining, but politician think by droping diplomacy Rusia will bleed for it, but at the end only common people got the pain.
The first objective is to kick Russia out of Ukraine - that involves raw power of offensive weapons. The second is to prevent Russia from rebuilding their army.
Once Russia withdraws from Ukraine we can talk about diplomacy and reparations for the war to Ukrainians from Russians.
Y is Europe crying now
It’s like watching a slow motion crash and cannot change the outcome. EU is doing this to themselves just to blame Russia for their pain.
-Kwame Palavin
Russians are indeed very very patient people...
I would have done it long long ago!
Great comprehensive analysis!
Putin shows the EU/US how sanctions are done
Yeah....the idiot has sanctioned Russia on gas. Where else is he going to send it?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Nailed it!
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It is always the people that suffer and not politicians. Weapon companies must be making so much money from the war.
Europe is high on renewable energy.
Nows their chance to show the world how good they are. 🇺🇲
If Europeans find alternative mesures, Russia should than stop wheats supplies to make Europeans hungry
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Well said Son!
bro believe me .europea is self-sufficient community in agriculture. they are in need of fosil fuelds. Europea has already stopped importing. They let ukraine to export the wheats to the africa over turkey. it has nothing to do with europea