ADAM PEATY vs QIN HAIYANG - Who Is the BEST Breaststroker?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2023
- Two of the BEST breaststrokers in the world, both with numerous world records under the belt: Adam Peaty and Qin Haiyang. Let's break down exactly what makes them great, and speculate who might take the gold in 2024.
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I just wanna say something, maybe you know this better than me. All the swimmers who won the medals are on drugs. So why do not you all guys confess that the best way to swim faster is taking drugs and never admitting them. thanks
From technique point view I think qin is better.
Okay explain why
Qin Haiyang is the dominant breaststroker on the planet right now.
Since July in the World Championships, through the Asian games in September, and culminating in all three legs of the World Cup series in October - he had 15 breaststroke wins in a row, in ALL 3 distances - the 50, 100, and 200.
He beat Peaty every time he raced against him (in Oct/World Cup), although Peaty did reach the podium in the 50 several times - BUT remember also that Peaty is trying to regain his previous top form, after completely stopping his swimming, from March/23 until October/23 - because of several issues.
Peaty has the world record in the 50 and 100 breast, and Haiyang in the 200.
The big question is - will Peaty regain his form to medal (Gold?) again in his 100 meter distance, in Paris, at the '24 Summer Olympics?
There is no 50 meter Olympic breaststroke event.
Right now Qin seems unbeatable, but stay tuned!
Yeah, I expect that Paris will be very close and have a feeling it won't be Peaty on the top spot. They won't trouble the WR, but I will not be at all surprised to see Peaty beaten.
@@0tispunkm3y3r Twenty-three top Chinese swimmers tested positive for the same powerful banned substance seven months before the Tokyo Olympic Games in 2021 but were allowed to escape public scrutiny and continue to compete after top Chinese officials secretly cleared them of doping and the global authority charged with policing drugs
Real answer..?
Both are good and there is no real better one. You are comparing a sprinter to a distance swimmer. Even though they do the same strokes, it’s like comparing apples and oranges.
Opinion: I think China will start getting better at swimming, now that they are more a developed country and have got some good American, Australian and British coaches to coach their athletes (I.e Qin HaiYang, Zhang YuFei. And once they are developed like most of Europe and America, they will definitely be in the top leagues. Impressive how they’ve came so far so quickly.
Quick question: wouldn’t they be in the same category? How do they become the “Apple and orange” comparison? The real answer is that Qin is better and you don't want to admit it
I love this comparrison video. I personally would love more!
In last world cup qin won all the races, so I think at the moment he is the best...we'll😊 at the olympics though!
Twenty-three top Chinese swimmers tested positive for the same powerful banned substance seven months before the Tokyo Olympic Games in 2021 but were allowed to escape public scrutiny and continue to compete after top Chinese officials secretly cleared them of doping and the global authority charged with policing drugs
This is a really interesting video. Do you have any suggestions for how to pick up the pace in breaststroke? I can swim quite a nice long glidey breaststroke, but the second I try and increase my turn over, I feel like I put more effort in but don't swim any faster!
As a Brit I am hoping Adam will win the 100 breast stroke, but I think he has been struggling with injury and motivation lately so I am not sure!
Hi there ! could you write the set , at final video here please : only to see better !
Is that workout already in the app.
Miss you all, professor and classmates; I have been away for so long because of mitigating circumstances.
Nice breakdown of splits and stroke technique….
However, you make no mention on their stroke rate on each of their races and on how they nail their finishes (makes a huge difference in breaststroke)..
Finally you made a video about Qin
Should make a video on the 23 Chinese swimmers who tested positive for illegal PEDs.
Qin is better at long-distance breaststroke, and Peaty is better at short-distance breaststroke. You can't easily compare them.
Like comparing apples and oranges
@@JohnSmith-el4rlyes
Totally! As in the Olympics they only swim 100 and 200, Qin has an advantage for the Games. Though I do wish Adam the best in his career, he sounds like a nice person.
@@yuldouz but Peaty has the advantage for the 100 breaststroke.
Its totally different, for long distance u don't need to swim fast in early stage. unlike for short distance they need to outclass anyone right away.
the set is:
* 4x50 Breast (200) +1 @ 50"
* 3x50 Breast (200) 0. @ 1.10
* 2x50 Breast (200) -1 @ 1.20
* 1x50 Breast (200) -2 @
Ok , this is your set !
The question is : to start 4x50: (200m +1) how much in seconds to rest in first set: 4x50: 10", 15" more, less ? because after that we should have the reference putting +10seg in each set 3x50, 2x50 ....and so
Peaty has better speed and more trophies
Qin has better endurence and he is soo fast too
Qin has better form right now and I think he win 100,200 br in Paris
Peaty is better in trophies and speed but Qin will be better in future in speed and trophies
God I hate breaststroke....when I was a kid the message for medley was "beware the breaststroker"...it should be banned!
No breaststroke is the best. Backstroke SUCKS
@@jersa44 agree 100% for me it's the same thing
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@@jersa44 BRO IKR
I feel like if ur good at breaststroke you physically cannot be good at back.
Really good breaststrokers-dunno whose better
Both are stellar and accomplished masters, it's just that Qin is way more aesthetically pleasurable to watch - long strong pulls vs. Peaty's rabbit-like frequency. My humble opinion only ofc.
Less strokes and more strokes almost have the same result. Less strokes reserve energy better. More strokes mean the stroke need less time to complete. Less strokes mean the stroke need more time to complete. This is the difference, different thinking different technique. The one who rises up faster, closer to the surface will glide faster and longer. It is not that hard to figure out, just need a little physis. Sooner or later, everyone will know why. It will be the new technique for swimming in the future
Qin is. Adam was.
True. Even as a Brit i would agree. You have to look at the facts too and in swimming like most sports, age becomes a factor. 21-26 is peak prime swimming years, Adam is 29 and Qin Haiyang is 24. Qin has hit his best prime years, expect big things from him this Olympics. I do hope Adam can go out in some kind of glory though.
100 peaty 200 stubely-cook
The future belongs to Qin
Is Adam really 6”3’? I was sure he was 6”-6”1’
He is 6’3”. But Qin is 6’4”.
Most swimmers are listed wrong. Phelps is actually 6'2-6'3 and Peaty looks solid 6'1 next to him
thumbnail looking like theyre kissing lmao
Let's first start with this question. Who's on drugs and who isn't?
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Qin has more stroke efficiency obviously. Peak Peaty has more strength than Qin. Gotta wait and see if Qin can break Peaty's 50 record. Peaty is most probably down-sloping one way after his injury, alcoholism and depression...
Age a big factor too... Qin Haiyang is 24 and Adam is 29. Peak prime years for swimmers is between 21-26. Qin Haiyang is in his best years and Adam has left his best years.
6 foot 3 fingers and 5 nails. Respect your work but we understand cm better.
lol
Adam peaty
Isn't it Léon Marchand ?
I'm a UK citizen but still a Chinese native: PEATY is extremely strong; QIN is subtly smart. Both need to learn from each other to get that unlimited finesse; so do we.
Age is a factor now though. Qin Haiyang is hitting his prime and Adam has ended his prime. Muscle strcuturs change and when swimming comes down to hundreds of a second it makes a huge difference. 21-26 is peak prime years in swimming. Adam is now 29 and Qin Haiyang is 24. Qin Haiyang is in his best years and should take over as the best. But Adam will always leave a legacy having so many gold medals, world records and best times.
right now probably qin, but you know peaty isn't swimming lol
Qin takes drugs, Peaty doesn't. Nuff said...
All the swimmers especially Olympic swimmers who won the medals are on drugs. it is all about fame and money.
I get that feeling too. Not just swimming. These college aged track & field sprinters are breaking all sorts of records, now, at this time. I think that the Paris 2024 Olympics is going to be a mess... and then there's cycling.
Pointless video. No one will ever be close to Adam. Period. Qin Might be good. But to dethrone the GOAT of breasstroke will take a lot more than one well swam world championship for Qin. No hate here, just facts.
No one has ever won golds on all three breaststroke events, sure. Congrats to that.
Adam has been through a lot at that time (surgery and some private heavy thing that hes been through). So with healthy Adam Qin wouldnt have won all three 100%.
Dont get me wrong, Im not triggered. But Jesus Christ I cannot get over that video title. Who Is the BEST Breaststroker?! Show some respect.
bro what adam cant even get close to the 2 br world record. u cant compare these two because qin is better at 200s while peaty is better at 100s. u make a pointless argument
PROPER B/S is done prone and just lift the head, not like these tossers. Hand UNDER the body.
I believe if Leon Marchand had swum the 200 Breast at worlds he would have beaten Qin and broken the WR. He went a 2:06 earlier in the year at FR Nationals, and split it almost exactly the same as Qin, only coming home in a 32.89 instead of a 32.12. We saw that he was able to drop a considerable amount of time in the 400 IM, 200 Fly, and 200 IM between FR Nationals and worlds, so I can only imagine what he would have pulled off in the 200 Breast. Dude could have probably gone 2:04 and I wouldn't be surprised.
The hype around marchand is just ridiculous. There's no chance he would have beaten qin in this event, period. First of all, if he could have broken the world record, why the hell would he not have swum it? Also, the guy got destroyed by qin on the breaststroke leg in the mens medley. He went a 59 on a relay split, he's not going under 2:05.4
His time is a 2:06.59, a whole 2.6 second drop is a lot…
Possible…but unlikely
@@JohnSmith-el4rl he dropped 8.07 seconds in his 400 IM between FR Nationals and Worlds, 3.36 seconds in the 200 Fly, and 1.43 seconds in the 200 IM. Is it an unusually big drop? Yes, for everyone except Marchand, seemingly.
@@georgefu7035 As is clearly demonstrated in the video, having a slower 100 breast doesn't necessarily mean you'll have a slower 200 breast... you also do need to consider the 400 Medley Relay was on the last day of the meet, and Marchand had a more grueling schedule than Haiyang. Look at how Marchand split his 200 Breast at FR Nationals. He basically split it exactly the same as Haiyang, with the only significant difference being in the first and last 50's, which added up to making his time a second slower. Anyone who's ever been a competitive swimmer before knows that the second half of your races improves with rest and taper, and seeing as he dropped a huge amount of time in all his other events between FR Nationals and Worlds, especially in the 3rd and 4th 50's of his 200's, there is no doubt in my mind he would have gone way faster in the 200 Breast. 2:05 would be certain; 2:04 wouldn't have surprised me.
Further to my point about splits, here are Haiyang and Marchand's respective 200 Breast splits:
Haiyang: 28.53 | 32.19 | 32.64 | 32.12
Marchand: 28.89 | 32.13 | 32.68 | 32.89
Difference (Haiyang - Marchand): -0.36 | +0.06 | -0.04 | -0.77
And here's how Marchand split the 200 Fly at FR Nationals and Worlds, respectively:
FR Nats: 26.07 | 29.04 | 29.87 | 30.81
Worlds: 25.43 | 28.17 | 29.56 | 29.28
Now the caveat is that he may have been holding back in most of his races at FR Nationals. Most swimmers at that level if they know they will make their country's worlds team anyways don't necessarily put all of their effort into their events at Nationals. I kind of doubt he would have held back in the 200 Fly while putting it all into the 200 Breast, unless he already knew he wasn't going to swim the 200 Breast at worlds, which he seemingly didn't because he was scheduled to until he made the decision to drop it. Still, it's possible that his 200 Breast at FR Nationals was his best effort while his 200 Fly was held back. Even if this was the case, however, there is still the effect of rest and taper to consider. Again, anyone who's been a competitive swimmer knows the effects of rest and taper, especially on the back half of your races. FR Nationals were in the middle of June, while Worlds were at the end of July. Marchand, being an elite swimmer who had no problem making the French Worlds either way, was almost certainly fully tapered and rested for Worlds, and not for FR Nationals.
As for why he didn't swim it, because the 200 Breast semifinal would have been 10 minutes after his 200 IM final. He was actually scheduled to swim the 200 Breast, but decided not to swim it and focus on his 200 IM (which is also one of his best races; he got within 1 second of the world record by Ryan Lochte, now being the 4th fastest of all time, behind Lochte, Phelps, and Wang Shun). There are various reasons he could have chosen the 200 IM over the 200 Breast for his focus. The 200 Breast final was on the same day as the 800 Free Relay final, which he likely wanted to stay fresh for (and, might I add, he outsplit MOST of the swimmers in the top 3 teams, despite France getting 4th overall. And Freestyle is his WORST stroke). Like I said, the 200 IM is also one of his best events, and he may have been going for the world record, which he got chillingly close to. He also may have chosen the 200 IM because, compared to the 200 Breast, it was a much more open field. Marchand finished 1.13 seconds ahead of 2nd place in the 200 IM. In the 200 Breast, he would have had to contend with Qin Haiyang, which while I've already said I think he would beat Qin, he may have wanted to go with what seemed like an easier and safer victory. Seeing as he had already won the 400 IM earlier in the meet and broken the world record, a Michael Phelps world record no less, I can easily see him thinking he had a shot at Lochte's world record in the 200 IM. At any rate, this is just my take. I think he definitely could have gone 2:05 low or 2:04, had he swum the 200 Breast. I'm incredibly excited to see what he does this year in NCAAs and in Paris. Michael Phelps himself said he thinks Marchand is capable of going under 4:00 in the 400 IM, and that's only one of the many races he's dominant in.
I guess Leon has a lot of choice, and goes to the distances where he believes he's best.
Adam Peaty is easily the better breaststroker - and natty.
And Qin isn't?..
@@AllanLovezGamingthey are both probably not
And he can't swim a 200 breast to save his life
@@georgefu7035 how about you go swim a 2:08 LCM 2breast
Is this a doping allegation?
Peaty - without question. Until Qin Haiyang can dominate for as long and by as much as Peaty has, it's no debate.
has been vs qin
Peaty easily. Even as a brit, I don't like the guy. But the fact is he's the greatest British swimmer ever and we've had many great swimmers. He's an all time great of the sport. Qin isn't - yet.
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