Fusion Confusion: Why Modern SDA Defenses Collapse

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ธ.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 75

  • @kylontobias
    @kylontobias 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yoww.... i been studying the doctrine of discovery last two weeks. Amazing that this was brought up. The land definitely was not empty.

  • @GuyFromRedBank
    @GuyFromRedBank 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I tried telling my mom and brother about this and I'm either called a liar or they start crying.

    • @Jehu_Adonai
      @Jehu_Adonai 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's spiritual warfare fam, Ellen G White is the spirit of Jezebel. False prophettes

    • @stephb.a1070
      @stephb.a1070 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dude it's absolutely difficult. I get told I need to be prayed for, it's not even intellectual

    • @scholasticqueen
      @scholasticqueen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is what happened to me when I was a kid and I tried to tell my dad what I learned in SDA school. He just said that that never happened and I must have misheard heard them and not paid attention to what they really said.

  • @s_hrndz0119
    @s_hrndz0119 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    It’s also interesting that Charles Taze Russell’s Watchtower magazine (now Jehovah’s Witnesses) and Mormonism under Joseph Smith make very similarly racist remarks in regards to Black people that they’re all now trying to hide.

    • @ReverendThunder
      @ReverendThunder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep. Racism and these cults were the order of the day.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes I noticed that too. Also they all have connections to Freemasonry, which is similarly racist. Interesting too that all these cults popped up shortly after the Scottish Rite was formed, which is a very dark, very occultic sect of Freemasonry.

    • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
      @ChrisTian-tz3eq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kimartist .. Soo, do you think that these denominations are a result of some kind of Jesuit psyop??..

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ChrisTian-tz3eq I do allow the possibility that it could be an "op," because: No coincidences, but I don't know who coordinated it. The Mormons do "secret" Masonic handshakes & put Masonic symbols on their magic underwear for God's sake. It's so ham-handed it's laughable. Like someone WANTS us to think it's the Jesuits. A deflection play.

  • @speakeasyarchives8764
    @speakeasyarchives8764 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I am a white 67 year old male. And this is so embarrassing for the SDA and if i were black i would be pissed off. Shame on EGW and the SDA church. The SDA church should have renounced this horrible teaching.

    • @GuyFromRedBank
      @GuyFromRedBank 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ellen G White is a known racist.

  • @ReverendThunder
    @ReverendThunder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    These facts are so damning to this cult. No wonder the apologists and blind followers won't do honest investigations about them. They have too much to lose.

    • @s_hrndz0119
      @s_hrndz0119 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It’s also sad that a lot of these defenders are Black themselves. Very sad.

    • @ReverendThunder
      @ReverendThunder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@s_hrndz0119 because that's where the vast majority of its membership is.

    • @charnelallan7159
      @charnelallan7159 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Edwin cotto IS either a blatant hypocrite or a puppet

    • @deus_vult8111
      @deus_vult8111 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      So true. Among American SDAs in the U.S., whites are a minority.
      According to Pew Research in 2015:
      “Seventh-day Adventists are among the most racially and ethnically diverse American religious groups: 37% are white, while 32% are black, 15% are Hispanic, 8% are Asian and another 8% are another race or mixed race.”

    • @ReverendThunder
      @ReverendThunder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@deus_vult8111 yep. And that stat is only for the US. Non-white countries and nations make up the bulk of the membership.

  • @ryanfox4712
    @ryanfox4712 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is great 😂 I’ve noticed there are no SDA’s on this trying to fight this is point

    • @benjamindantzie8053
      @benjamindantzie8053 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am a member of the SDA church and I am in full support of what has been said in this presentation. I no longer regard Whites writings as supporting scripture. In fact, her writings lead away from the Word. This issue to me is clearly satanic and cannot be from heaven, period.

  • @PavelMosko
    @PavelMosko 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Wow you got the band together! AKA meeting with Thunder and CMB Ambassador. Good times are ahead!

  • @scholasticqueen
    @scholasticqueen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember this! This amalgamation was taught at one of the elementary schools in California. However it seemed like the two teachers were defending EGW more than recognizing that it was wrong. They said that some white people and some black people would “form a relationship” so that they could eventually reduce the blackness in the racial line and essentially save them.

  • @Jaco3688
    @Jaco3688 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    When Ellen said that the Black race is a result of “amalgamation”, she later clarified by saying, “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is”.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Funny 🤭🤣🤣🤣

    • @donny1742
      @donny1742 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I read the quote I never saw black or white. funny.

  • @natemead
    @natemead 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Can someone donate a mic to EJ or what? I’d love to hear what he is saying.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah that was pretty awful 😢

    • @ruthwelterlen9776
      @ruthwelterlen9776 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, I never understand a word.

  • @kylontobias
    @kylontobias 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No wonder John Harvey Kellogg later became a notable person in Eugenics. And Ellen White also later discouraged interracial marriages. Hmmm

  • @jimbob1644
    @jimbob1644 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If I'm not mistaken Moses wife was black!

    • @speakeasyarchives8764
      @speakeasyarchives8764 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Jesus was not white either! So was he part of the amalgamation?

    • @LoCoWi
      @LoCoWi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@speakeasyarchives8764 well, according to SDA art work, Jesus was caucasian as John Wayne.

  • @barryford1482
    @barryford1482 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is another version of evolution in the SDA church and I thought they didn't believe in theoistic evolution

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good & interesting point 🤔

    • @donny1742
      @donny1742 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see no evolution here.

  • @alohaohana901
    @alohaohana901 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    More like amalgamation of false prophet (EGW) and beast.

  • @charnelallan7159
    @charnelallan7159 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Send this to Candice Owens podcast

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The audio is too garbled & the issue isn't clear imo. I couldn't tell if SDA were saying blacks are nephilim or animals?

  • @E-Buzz7E-Buzz7
    @E-Buzz7E-Buzz7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The reason why Mrs White had cautioned that the whites and blacks have separate conferences was because of the racist tension in the country and church for what she had no control over..

  • @E-Buzz7E-Buzz7
    @E-Buzz7E-Buzz7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As you know that Mrs White proofread her own writings before print until her death in 1915, she had secretaries who had typed out her work for her.
    After Mrs White's death, there was a whole lot of incompleted work, so other authors picked up their pens and completed her work. Can you blame someone who wasn't around to proofread before the writings went to print? for what she had no control over?...
    I DO NOT READ any of the writings that were printed after 1915. I only read about 36 different books of her's, some are sets....the rest I reject, that was printed after 1915, make sure that if you want to grill her that it infact is her writtings and publications up until her death in July 1915....beyond that you cannot attack her for it will be unfair on her.

    • @Jessaba
      @Jessaba 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So basically saying that after 1915 one cannot trust the publications of the organization. If you can’t trust the people then why would you trust the movement at large?…the insinuation that her writings were corrupt is a big question mark on your judgement to stay in an system you can’t trust after a certain time

  • @tiffanyw3425
    @tiffanyw3425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I asked my father about the amalgamation of man and beast... he said she must've been talking about giants.

  • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
    @ChrisTian-tz3eq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Shabbat Shalom! ... Yea, the only "amalgamation" that God hated, from the Scriptures around the time of Noah's day ... Was the one stated in Genesis 6 : 1 - 12 ..
    1 ) "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
    2 )That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
    3 )And YHWH said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
    4 ) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
    5 ) And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
    6 ) And it repented YHWH that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
    7 ) And YHWH said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
    8 ) But Noah found grace in the eyes of YHWH.
    9 )These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
    10 ) And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
    11 ) The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
    12 ) And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth."
    .. Could this be an allusion to the "mixing" of Cain's offspring with Seth's.. or that with fallen angels??? ...

    • @jimbob1644
      @jimbob1644 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No!!!

    • @19818456
      @19818456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She actually meant the union between animals and man! But this quote was copied from an American author, which she altered to mean the opposite

    • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
      @ChrisTian-tz3eq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimbob1644 ... "No", What?? ..

    • @jimbob1644
      @jimbob1644 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ChrisTian-tz3eq just for someone to hook angels and humans together..( in any way). is absolutely crazy! that's a created theology! that has come from people that can't interpret Genesis 6!

    • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
      @ChrisTian-tz3eq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimbob1644 .. So, then you think it's talking about the mixing of Seth's offspring with Cain's?..

  • @ciscocisco6119
    @ciscocisco6119 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🔥Wow🔥 pray for JERUSALEM GB 🕊️🔥

    • @herbtuck1481
      @herbtuck1481 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pray for Jerusalem when the bible tell you that the Jews are Satan I’ll pray for Palestine

  • @DaniRiti-q9v
    @DaniRiti-q9v 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lord, who may abide in Your tabernacle? Who may dwell in Your holy hill?
    He who walks uprightly, and works righteousness, and speaks the truth in his heart ;
    He who does not backbite with his tongue, nor does evil to his neighbor, nor does he [b]take up a reproach against his friend; In whose eyes a vile person is despised, but he honors those who fear the Lord; (Ps. 15)

  • @donny1742
    @donny1742 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    White people were bush men too. Blacks and whites were in the bush but whites got out early out of the bush. Humans were at one time tribal and many still are.

  • @Billt-qx5qy
    @Billt-qx5qy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ham’s actions hurt the black race more than anything.

    • @alohaohana901
      @alohaohana901 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very Ham-handed on his part.