This is interesting to listen to, as it tells something about the process of composing music. The changes that Rosenman made after this were definitely for the better.
Imagine sending this song with no context to somebody who knows it very well, watching them vibe to it, and then observing their reaction to the unexpected differences to the final piece.
This is not a film I would have relished scoring (if I was a film composer). It's very hard to combine big symphonic music (which is the established Star Trek sound) with a light and relatively low key main body of the score. Some of Rosenman's music in the film is uncompromising, while some is sublime. As a big Goldsmith fan, I really don't think I'd have wanted to hear Goldsmith return to the series with this film and I'm not sure how James Horner would have approached it either.
Oh man, I really think Goldsmith would have knocked it right out of the park. He was really adept at this sort of film scoring. Rosenman scores with such a heavy handed post romantic European sound, while his harmonic approach seems very firmly rooted in the classical era (late 1700s) there are some almost Haydn-esque moments. It's good music on its own, never thought it particularly worked for star trek.
Agree. When people say the A is the same as the refit it makes me go mad. Worse when toys label it as a refit. It Is a Connie refit sure. But it is not the refit it is the A
In spirit, the Refit is the original Enterprise after a drastic face lift. It has the spirit of it's life-line all the way back to Robert April in drydock. The A is either (depending on what you prefer) a brand new starship, or another Constitution that was renamed for the crew. I like the A well enough, though, in the words of Captain Picard "We barely knew her." It was one of the happiest moments of my Trek fandom life to see the Excelsior dip out of the way to reveal this beautiful starship. I only wish that her first full outing had been a far better one.
@@OpenMawProductions Enterprise-A was originally called USS Yorktown (NCC-1717), but when Kirk saved the world with the other Enterprise crew, they decided to pull the Yorktown into space dock and literally had to rechristen it from the USS Yorktown to the USS Enterprise-A via the special act of the Federation council.
The best Star Trek ever. But TNG's Generations is better. Wait, Star Trek (2009) is the best. Oh, can't forget Insurrection (except for F. Murray Abraham). And you gotta love Star Trek III Search for Spock. Actually I love so many of them I don't even know why I'm typing this. But this is a great soundtrack. But so is Generations and...
And don't forget how Undiscovered Country sucks the worst. Oh, can't forget about Star Trek the Movie...wait Nemesis sucks the worst. Of course, there's.... (DO YOU GET THE JOKE YET, IDIOT!)
![Star Trek: Enterprise Music - Borg Attack [Regeneration]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RXopOUstcjY/mqdefault.jpg)
My Friends, we've come Home.
GhostbustersFan77 I cry at the endings of Treks 2-4
This is interesting to listen to, as it tells something about the process of composing music. The changes that Rosenman made after this were definitely for the better.
MOST definitely!
The buricrac mentality is the the only constant in the universe, we'll get a freighter....
Sulu: I'm counting on Excelsior!
@@GenGamesUniverse Excelsior? Why in God's name would you want that bucket of bolts?!
A ship is a ship.
@@Hardcover_PilotAye Sir, thy will be done.
My friends, we’ve come home
I like how it gives it more of a fanfare.
Much of the early versions of the film’s soundtrack is heard in the recap showing the events of ST3.
NCC-1701-A... The USS Sleighride. At least with this Christmas music.
Sounds like music for a Macy's White Sale commercial back in the day.
Imagine sending this song with no context to somebody who knows it very well, watching them vibe to it, and then observing their reaction to the unexpected differences to the final piece.
This is not a film I would have relished scoring (if I was a film composer). It's very hard to combine big symphonic music (which is the established Star Trek sound) with a light and relatively low key main body of the score. Some of Rosenman's music in the film is uncompromising, while some is sublime. As a big Goldsmith fan, I really don't think I'd have wanted to hear Goldsmith return to the series with this film and I'm not sure how James Horner would have approached it either.
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I would have loved to seen what Horner could have done with this film
horner would have been great for star trek 6 i would have loved to hear that soundtrack !
Oh man, I really think Goldsmith would have knocked it right out of the park. He was really adept at this sort of film scoring. Rosenman scores with such a heavy handed post romantic European sound, while his harmonic approach seems very firmly rooted in the classical era (late 1700s) there are some almost Haydn-esque moments. It's good music on its own, never thought it particularly worked for star trek.
For me this sounds better than the version used in the film.....
Not me.
This my favorite view of the Enterprise A
So bizarre to hear the differences after being so exposed to the final version in the film.
Wish they had kept the stronger martial elements from 2:10-2:22.
Superb!
Let'see what she's got!
Scotty: "Let's see what she's got he said!"
Decent, but I'm glad the final version exists. :)
If you confuse the refit with the A, call the A the refit and - worse, call the refit the A.... we can't be friends! :p
Agree. When people say the A is the same as the refit it makes me go mad. Worse when toys label it as a refit. It Is a Connie refit sure. But it is not the refit it is the A
I always loved the refit better than the A
In spirit, the Refit is the original Enterprise after a drastic face lift. It has the spirit of it's life-line all the way back to Robert April in drydock.
The A is either (depending on what you prefer) a brand new starship, or another Constitution that was renamed for the crew.
I like the A well enough, though, in the words of Captain Picard "We barely knew her."
It was one of the happiest moments of my Trek fandom life to see the Excelsior dip out of the way to reveal this beautiful starship. I only wish that her first full outing had been a far better one.
1701 is Refitted Constitution Class, 1701-A is a Constitution Refit Class.
@@OpenMawProductions Enterprise-A was originally called USS Yorktown (NCC-1717), but when Kirk saved the world with the other Enterprise crew, they decided to pull the Yorktown into space dock and literally had to rechristen it from the USS Yorktown to the USS Enterprise-A via the special act of the Federation council.
Hey it can be the theme for a star trek animated movie series.
star tres 4 the voyage home motion picture
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There are parts to this I actually prefer over the score Rosenman went with.
at 3:31 does it switch to 6/8?
Absolutely a very handelian March.
just wondering if this is copyright, cause I might use it in a move I'm planning on making
+goodday2die15 Since 1986.
+Starfleet2360 oh good, cuz the movie is scrubbed
Hey
Considering there's no "Music in this video" section in the description, TH-cam doesn't recognize this track, so I'd say it's safe to use.
Let's see what she's got
The best Star Trek ever. But TNG's Generations is better. Wait, Star Trek (2009) is the best. Oh, can't forget Insurrection (except for F. Murray Abraham). And you gotta love Star Trek III Search for Spock. Actually I love so many of them I don't even know why I'm typing this. But this is a great soundtrack. But so is Generations and...
And don't forget how Undiscovered Country sucks the worst. Oh, can't forget about Star Trek the Movie...wait Nemesis sucks the worst. Of course, there's.... (DO YOU GET THE JOKE YET, IDIOT!)
I'm talking about the soundtracks and the opening of Insurrection has the most beautiful melody of any of them...
@@tsunamaisurfer606 Insurrection was a fine story... for an episode or two, but not a feature length film. It's soundtrack was awesome though.
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Human race is cloned ASWELL not a single person looks the same as the other