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- Emmanuel Macron has faced uneasy reactions from European allies after he refused to rule out sending Western ground troops to Ukraine.
The French President made the remark at a meeting of more than 20 European leaders in Paris. The conference was convened as a show of support for Ukraine against Russia's war of aggression. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the gathering via videolink. Ukraine is now largely on the defensive as it contends with slow western arms deliveries, and Russia's superior numbers on the battlefield.
Chapters:
0:00 Macron's comments on Western ground troops
2:11 Benjamin Tallis, German Council on Foreign Relations
10:36 Bernd Riegert, DW Correspondent
13:33 Johann Wadephul, CDU/CSU parliamentary group deputy
17:49 Mike Martin, Military analyst, King's College London
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Scholz must've shat his pants when he heard this lol.
Yeah he is a massively big coward 😞
“Blink and you miss it,” “Well Done” 8:45.
That poor guy at the video switcher controls is getting fired.
@@nayhemHe fled the country after hearing Macron’s bluff
It’s like “you had one job!” Still made my day though.@@nayhem
Macron has grown a spine. When facts change, opinions change. I do not think Olaf Scholz has realised it yet.
He didn’t say that he wanted to send troops he just said there’s nothing is off the table and that’s just talking the same language as Putin does so finally Macron is showing a spine,💪 and what the other leaders are saying are simply statically unwise….
Spine? Typical French, all talk. The only way Europe will go to war is if Germany agrees. They're financing the whole EU.
Macron is showing a spine??????? looool, where? where? The other leaders know the majority of europeans are against our interference in this war, so...
A spine? So will he now stop blocking the use of the $300 BILLION in Frozen Russian assets? So we can fund Ukraine?
Do you don't think that there's apprehension of ww2 or nuclear war?
other leaders tryna avoid nuclear war dumb dumb
If he sends troops he will actually send the French Foreign Legion which is technically a mercenary army with a multinational force.
@@diasflac0gokay put the phone down comrade💀🤡
Multinational fertilizer!
@@diasflac0gthe west is waking up rather late . Had they armed Ukraine so it could have exploited the Kharkiv breakthrough the war could have been won
Those are already in ukraine since the beginning of the war hahaha.
If Europe sends troops then Ruasian friends should send troops to help Russia simple.
Olaf Sholtz is like a turd you just can't seem to pass, he just keeps blocking things up, and causing problems in the whole body. Hopefully we can push through this problem.
Scholz is a consensus based politician, like all politicians in Germany. So he waits until he thinks Germans are ready for someone.
Edit: typo.
He is the most hated chancellor in German history.
No one likes him.
dw he will be voted out soon enough :D
He is def not as good bulls..er as macron
Wars are simple and much easier to start but spiral out of control easily and very hard to end.
Yes easy to slip into one but hard to get out from
@@robertmanfredthurrigl9424you would know something about it considering what your forefathers have perpetrated.
Macron did absolutely everything to prevent it from happening. He simply were hanging on the phone for a month praying Putin to think one more time. Here in Russia we had tons of memes about Macron and his phone and how hard for him to restrain and not call in another ten minutes
Yes, easy to start, and hard to end, thus the importance of always and everywhere maintaining a credible deterrence. The best weapon is one that is never used because it doesn't have to be.
The Russians lost more men taking Berlin at the end of WW-II than the US did during the entire war and we have regularly enjoyed 20:1 kill ratios. That doesn't come cheap, but is why we spend more than the next 6 countries combined on arms. We don't do Meat Waves. We do overkill.
To be fair, Scholz does not have a very good memory as we know.
As with Macrons words.... an option is not a declaration of intend. Furthermore is an option a flexibility worth having, especially in terms of political and miliary deterrence.
he is still angery abt the africa kicking france out with russian help.
Definitely right
Apparently the guy is frustrated. Thanks to events in Africa.
The France will be expell from Europe without any Macron´s action.
Exactly 🤣😂
Absolutely!!!😊
Macron has grown a spine even to talk about it, while those countries that shy away it is all about being fearful. Fear is what makes many leaders hesitate and become sluggish or tow their tails between their legs. Wishy washy dealings and promises that don't have any meaning it should be shameful coming from leaders who have the possibility doing it and are passive to make it happen.
A spine? hmm lets see if he will take Unilateral action and send in the french Army into Ukraine to fight Russia directly... without NATO
There is no spine if he isn't going to be first in line going to Ukraine, only a big mouth.
Spine this guy, last month only this flute asked he could join brics. Most of the west was feeding on eastern loot now french kicked out from africa. Hegemony lost, cry as much what else could do.
The US always like to fight with unarmed populations. The US has no ball to fight with Russia directly. A coward of the present time who needs much Armour (NATO), army contractor Zelensky etc., around him.
Macron has a Napolean Ball to fight Russia.
Which spine when not long ago he was kicked out of Africa and did nothing even after making threats against those countries?
Nixon said he learned two things from Eisenhower as a Vice President. Never tell your adversaries what you're about to do - but more importantly never tell them what you never will do.
Exactly! Macron follows that same principle. The West, including the US, have sadly wasted any psychological advantage by continuously stating what they won’t do.
I think France and Poland needs to talk...
if russia touches poland than nato gets involved but putin assured this wont happen aslong as poland stays away from aggression, which they do. sure putin will play his cards but they likely wont work
@@Tom-tp1jv Putin does not need a reason. He needs excuses only.
I think France and Poland should pre-talk, consult with the US and the UK, and just announce their decision to Germany and the EU fait accompli.
@@alesh2275 Poland suffered enough in its history. Now it is somebody else's turn to go first.
There is a difference between stating a fact in answer to a question, and stating without prompting that boots on the ground are being considered.
He literally said, that they have to do everything, so that Russia losses.
A lot of other leaders have also been asked directly & categorically said they wouldn't. So what's your point?
They're pathetic "Leaders" too@@shap7866
Exactly, plus it _is_ weak to say "No we 100% rule out troops on the ground" because you never know what turns the war will take and Putin will use our appeasement against us (e.g. Russia could try again to invade Ukraine wholesale, to Kiev, or go to the Baltic's). What you say is "We have no plans for troops on the ground" but it was a reporters question, off the cuff, it wasn't a bad answer just blown out of proportion cause that's how the media works (on our attention). It'd be like having nukes and saying "We will never use them", well, then what's the point in having them for determent if there's no threat of them being used? Again, you say "We have no intention of using nukes and hope we never will have to use them".
@@skullsaintdead after all he said they are just running a routine military exercise and accusations of invading are silly
Russia doesn't rule out military engagement with Europe. Why should Europe rule out military engagement with Russia?
Weakness doesn't assuage expansionist dictators
Neither do bluffs.
Expansionist dictators- western capitalists, and dont you forget that
wanna go nuclear? lol
Who actually N'ATO expansion eastward as against the Minsk agreement?
@@mengreat6982 minsk 1/2 was signed by westerners for support ukronazi regime only. No less no more
Benjamin should go to the frontline.
The background image reads "Waiting for Weapons, Waiting for Peace". It that a joke?
Sounds like idea of government vs citizens.
Peaceful missiles.
@@bobbymozza Ah, I guess the ones that selectively take out the bad guys and just happen to enrich the good guys as a side effect.
Lmao
Then why dont he send french troops then?
The French likes to fight with a white flag .
@@cashcash5995 lol so true
Exactly! Y dragged everyone else if he is really have that balls to confront Russia.
They already did and they met a Iskander in Kharkov hotel.😂😂😂
@@timmy-wj2hc💀
I remember the German saying it was out of question to send any kind of weapons, then out of question to send tanks, then out of question to send Taurus and finally out of question to send troops. The equation is very simple: Putin won't stop unless he is stopped. There are two ways he can be stopped: from inside with the collapse of his regime, from outside with a victory of Ukraine. If Ukraine loses, it will be a nightmare for Europe...
Germany is a joke. Hard to understand how weak they have become.
The loss is already a reality so what are you blubing about?
If Ukraine loses? if the US loses it will be a total nightmare for the neocons.
Or you could, you know, stop peddling war? I know, it sounds insane.
Ukraine will lose
Macron is talking a bold stand. He does not in my opinion want what happened to France in WWII happen to Ukraine. How soon people forget. I would think more people in Europe would support him.
Actually all EU leaders said they are NOT sending troops to Ukraine. Ukraine is very much alone. You just need to keep buying weapons cause the US and EU are making really good money while you send your best men to die.
There is a very simple explanation why Macron explicitly talked about sending troops to Ukraine as an option - to bring the idea into the debate. Now this idea is out there and will come up again and again the more the Russian troops advance. And in two or three months, there might be enough supporters to build a "coalition of the willing".
Ждём тебя на войне, европеец, только платье не забудь одеть ))) 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
Do you really imagine that sending troops had not been considered behind the scenes. It is all about preparing the public as there has always been a plan to send troops.
@@michaelotieno6524 You have access to what happens behind the scenes, somehow. Cool.
Never going to happen..
Fighting using money and life are different I don't think u can do it.
He only said sending troops is not outlawed. Sending troops won't happen without extensive consultation or without a significant russian provocation way above of what is currently happening. In any case, planning for the unexpected only makes bigger sense in 2024, those prepared never regret it. Maybe special president Putin starts a new special operation, maybe not, depends on what his aftermath looks like in Ukraine.
I feel like this is how people wish to interpret macron but its not exactly how macron views it
It's not about action, it's about not SHOWING weakness! Otherwise, Europe has to declare we will support Ukraine until they lose...
They have lost
@@user-tt6il2up4oand I suppose you don’t need to learn Russian, do you ?
@@user-tt6il2up4o Yes, it is clear they have won their 3 day military special operation...LOLLLs
Titles wrongs, he's not the only one, Poland and others have been quoted the same, poor journalism at DW.
The recent DW News have some massive technical issues. Interviews being cut off, sound bites interrupting mid sentence. What is going on?
Blame Vlad. 😂😂
Macron is the only president that understands how to deal with bullies. The Chancellor is so dim that I almost didnt hear him speaking
Let us not be naive, there are already troops of several/many NATO countries fighting under the guise of mercenaries in Ukraine.
Very different when you do it officially though as that is de-facto a declaration of war on Russia
Rightfully so!
What do you call French troops when they are in Ukraine? French Toast.
You love master Putin?
I’ll take French Toast any day over Russian Roulette aka Vlad’s meat grinder cannon fodder factory 😂😂😂
its hilarious that the german to english interpreter has an indian accent
lol.theirs everywhere…
Why does Olaf Schulz have an Indian accent?
Ahaha 😂
😂
What are you on about? Even Indians don't have an ‘Indian accent’…
Macron has balls of steel. Next question.
"Blinken you missed it!" 😂 Impromptu genius
"blinken ya missed it"
Buy that man a beer!!! Spoken like a true tabloid writer🤣🍻
Macron said 2 very important things.
1. Europe's defense shouldn't depend on the outcome of an American election
2. If Europe waits for the results of the American election in November, Ukraine will have already lost the war.
Given the time it takes to ramp up, and how late it is in the game already, with Ukraine having already lost too many boots on the ground, waiting any longer for anything is dangerous.
Perhaps Sholtz wants to wait until Berlin is bombed twice a week by hundreds of Russian missiles? By then Poland will be out of the fight and once again the US will have to save Europe from its own plodding, bureaucratic, self-serving, cowardly avoidance of its own defense. Jeeze guys. Do you even read history on that side of the pond? Thunderously inept response to Russia so far. How many millions will die this time because Europe refuses to maintain a deterrent comprised of weapons AT SCALE???
Here's a start. Commit to producing 5 million rounds of 155mm arty in 2024 and make damned sure you do it. Pretend Elon Musk is in charge of production. Get your butts on an emergency basis, because Russia, China, NK, Iran are fighting WW-III, even if Europe is still wringing its hands.
SMH
Yes you are correct.
Extremely well-said. I fully agree sir.
Everything I say is referenced from what zelensky said, but he said it on different occasions. He once said Ukraine has approximately 600 000 soldiers, this week he said Ukraine had lost 31 000, that's around 5%. So you are telling us for an army that lost around 5% of its personnel in 2 years can't wait till November? And you are suggesting they are out of personnel, how is that possible? Unless you are telling us zelensky is lying. If he is lying, what else had he lied to us about?
If we start looking at serious fundamentals, we will all discover that this war would have been negotiated before it even started, but there are a lot of guys lying in order to line their pockets at the expense of ukranian lives
Jeez, did you lose a “spot the brain cell” competition.
It seems like it.
Russia broke all the prior agreements, so one more is of no value. "Waiting" is what the Russians want, why do that?@@botshelomoatshe3153
Finally a western leader that stands tall. Puttin Putin off balance. Finally. Keep it up Macron! 💪🇫🇷
Not sure about that its more like playing into Putin's hand since Russia is looking for an excuse to strke anywhere in Europe.Action speaks louder than words .Russia knows that they can easily defeat a United E.rope.
nobody in EU likes Macron, not even the french haha
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂
😂😂😂
When you hear someone use the phrase "the free world", you know who is paying them..
Indeed this guy is a propagandist and not a journalist.
Why would Russia attack french?
Macron is being a realist. Many cannot handle what is real and just want to feel snug and safe no matter what. Vive' France!
So was Napoleon. He was also keeping it real. but unfortunately him keeping it real went disastrously wrong.
@@sharia_law5563was he though?
Didnt he invade and occupy like 3 countries before he attacked Russia?
He can invade Russia if he wants
what are you waiting for join the front
LOL, I was already in uniform. Maybe you should try it. @@avex3903
General Macaroni leads the fight😅
Good rounded analysis
France is farther from Russia than many other NATO countries. That is why he seems tough.
European leaders reacted with remarkable speed to contradict Macron’s words. Obviously they are quicker to bend their back and try to appease the Russian dictator than to denounce his abuses and commit to defending the borders of Europe.
I think for the benefits of all, that is a smart move from the rest of EU leaders. Suppose all EUs and NATO use Macron s language, is it realistic to think that Russia will bend? One might say, yes, Russia will be dtered by that...but what if he says "sure, let's do this guys, i've got China and North Korea behind me"? Just imagine Russia, N. Korea and China standing up against NATO...beautiful world huh?
Macron for Nobel prize for starting ww3.
PUTIN
Do you think WW3 will not happen if you put your head in the sand?
But, who will receive the prize?
Ww3 started 2 years ago as Russian special military operation. Many still don't realize it.
Putin loves your fear of WW3.
great material
Isn't that was Russia did, sent troops in on the request of Ukraine to help fight the other Ukraine. Might have people call him a hypocrite.
Ww3 coming up, do you all think it is worth risking this?
We should decrease arms production and walk around with peace flags instead. Putin would never attack Europe.
of course not
Thats russias choice. If they continue with this landgrabbing it will come to that...
Yes
@@john-toregundersen2655 It was not Russia that sent troops to the Russian border and to Russian cities (in Ukraine). so NATO will be completely destroyed soon. You can console yourself that Russia is a weak force, but this will not save you on the day of strikes.
Unexpected from Macron, I appreciate his strong position.
Please build the table of negotiation and come together to sit and talk as it is still possible to do so!
Excellent interviews and analysis by DW News! 👍
Please consider conducting a more detailed interview with Mike Martin as his expertise is particularly relevant to the military analysis more so than the politics.
The only western politician with a pair.
Hes got Ukraine, Poland and Germany up front so hes cocky. He would be silent if France would border Ukraine.
Really nice to have such a great straight talker.
It seems Germany is so reticent to get involved in a war after WW2. But a true response should be to help those in need when clearly another is unjustly under attack.
France talks alot but doesnt do much.
french military aid is barly larger than estonias contribution, 1/32 of the german contribution.
We hate war. Never again.
I think what he means is other countries should send in troops while the french slurp on their wine and gorge on foie gras.
Very concise and clear
He thinks fighting Russia is like those farmers and herders in Afghanistan, Libya, and Iraq. There will be a daily flight transporting corpses back home. This is a war of equal not what soldiers have been used to fighting an inferior party.
There is a reason why Nato has not fought Russia directly recently after advent of nuclear power..and that is Mutually assured destruction..MAD
200,000 dead Russians in Ukraine tells a different story.
@@sunilkamoji9555and so? Putin just gets to take over Europe?
@@AAB463 How can an amry purpoted by the west to be very weak and incompetent pull off that? You guys seem to have short memories😂
@@Joe-tr2vk “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
Nuts just Nuts, all this guys are bringing us to a global war, without even asking us😢
like in every world war)
Excellent episose
Putin made him look like a clown at the start of the war with the hockey comment. Now he has a lot of domestic problems he could sort out by sending some farmers to the meat grinder.
The little Napoleon has lost the cheap resources of Sahel and reacts childishly 😎
right now Putin is both "little" and following the Napoleon line of wet dreams.. you just need to look at the security police of a country to get a measure of how terrified a dictator is of his people waking up to reality...
😂😂 посмотрите на его лицо он изображает Наполеона Бонапарта 😂
Macron is welcome to go to Ukraine personally and join the fight.
He is NOT welcome to drag France and the rest of EU/Nato into a war however.
is not a good habit to pretend to be blind and unbrained for ever, please, stop thinking that there will be peace if you dont engage war, because if you ignore there is a war coming then... it will come, and it will be in ur home
Excellent journalism.
Thanks DW.👌🏽
DW thank you for trying your best to show us the news in a proper, calm way.
Isn't it funny how the French always escalate wars but then they are the first ones to back out when it actually happens
Haha très drôle, super marrant, puises-tu après ta mort te retrouver en face des morts des 2 grandes guerres ! on verra si tu tiendras le même discours !
They have this overinflated ego but not much to back it up. They live in the past glory of their country and behave like that. They earned quite a lot of mock names and with good reason.
I dont remember them escalating Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria.
So, which one are you talking about exactly?
@@warallied Not the middle east obviously
@@thiefsleef6752 You said: " Isn't it funny how the French always escalate wars"
you said both always and wars (meaning also ongoing ones)
still waiting on exemples.
The UK's definately done it (including Ukraine), the US too including backing down at that. I just cant think of one single occurence for France.
Only nation i know that ALWAYS escalate and ALWAYS back down is North Korea and somewhat China.
shameful warmongering
The guest seems to dismiss russian capability of being able to destroy germany by launching missles from russian territory.
The second biggest financial contributor to Ukraine doesn’t want Ukraine to win?
Who are these analyst? How can you let him say that with no push back?
Respect for the French leader he’s a sober leader who clearly understands what at stake in Ukraine…
nah macaroni is short-sighted
@@Tom-tp1jv, macaron* not "macaroni"
@@qwertyuqwertyu7481 im pr sure its macaroni
Politicians only sacrifice money, and the French have too many unnecessary lives in their pockets
Manu imagines himself a little Corsican
what stake? western supremacy, that's accectable loss.
No Action Talk Only, NATO. It’s a paper dog, not even paper tiger. South Korea can defeat all NATO.
NATO is a defensive alliance, if Russia attacks to one NATO country article 5 kicks in... Ukraine isn't a member of NATO so no article 5, some Europian countries can join the fight by declaring war on Russia if they want... But if you expect all NATO joins, i don't think so...
Tallking is not the same as been under shelling
Smart move - leave everything on the table , no limits.
Macron has the best mercenary fighters in his hand. They are the French Foreign Legion. France should have mobilized much earlier. But truly this is a very positive and courageous speech by Mr. Macron.
No There's no authority given by the PEOPLE These politions are talking 💩
WE THE PEOPLE REFUSE THIS BS
i like your thinking
What wars did these best fighters win, that wasn't against primitive forces? I'll wait...
@@anaeusrex2014but aren’t the Russian forces the very definition of “primitive”?
Special forces are useless in a war where drones and artillery turn everyone into mist
Because Macron is a fool.
The best what Scholz ever said, go on Scholz, no war involvment ! Proud of you!
At least not until Putin reaches the German border. Just wait 😢
VIVA LA FRACE!!! Deploy! There may be no difference between fear of escalation and losing.
You go deploy yourself
i think waiting for weapons doesnt mean waiting for peace
If a NATO country is attacked, no one can rule out ground troops fighting Russia in Ukraine.
That's not what Macron is saying though
Nato or Russia both actually doesn't need a reason to attack otherside they can easly declare war for various reasons if they want... Both side doesn't want it because both side knows even without nukes it is a hard battle to win...
@@charlesscott4722It's what Scholz et al is ruling out though. Also 'in the future'.
@@cemyurdakul1128NATO is a defensive alliance. It doesn't attack unless attacked.
@@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo Serbia ? Libya ? They attack if they are sure of victory
I'm not ruling out winning the lottery this week.
Some NATO meeting when the leaders come out confused on what they agreed on.
Kudos to Mr Shultz for his firm hold position!
Excellent analysis by Benjamin Tallis; appreciate his frank discussion.
Just watched the movie napoleon. Maybe they still have animosity with Russia.
Its called strategic ambiguity. Keep your enemy guessing, so they are wary of provocation.
Well give it time and everyone will start saying it
Politicians are very quick to put troops in harms way to make themselves look good. I suggest he leads from the front.
Keep your enemy guessing.
Germany this and Germany that .... Where are the promised Abrams tanks and F-16's?
Cruise missiles > 🇺🇦
Germans can teach them how to operate so that German troops aren’t technically in the war.
Ukraine are only allowed to strike targets on Ukrainian soil -inc Crimea & Donbass etc …
Is it that hard ????
Olaf has no bawls
Because Russia is doing something in the French sphere of influence within Africa, and Macron isn't a fan of that.
France, by far, is the only EU nation that still has a grip on economies of other countries outside of European Union. Namely through CFA Frank and, as you can guess it, those are African countries that used to be French colonies.
"Operation Unblock Olaf" lmao
sending troops would be the smartest idea imo. am i wrong?
The smartest idea would have been to ramp up weapon production since day 1 and give all them tools to Ukraine. That way there would have been less risks of escalation; now because EU has been that slow and shy to help, sending troops might indeed become a necessity. And while they are at it, imo they should also free Kaliningrad, Transnistria, and Belarus
@@Fantilyreкак только вы начнёте это , на Париж упадёт сотня Ярс и Тополь- М , тебе нужно это? Это не блеф! Я служил в ракетных войсках, поверь , мало не покажется
@@EcoZen24они просто жаждут ковровых бомбардировок со стороны России по их войскам
@@Fantilyre i agree. we are just playing games with dictators...
yeh because its escalation on a serious level. the war can be won other ways,
He is not alone. The Baltics, Czech Republic etc.
The French Emperor wants to march on Moscow.
This has happened before, sad
Berlin: afraid of their own shadow
Paris: leadership in Europe
Misleading poster image
What is a purpose of law of freedom in the name of freedom if not help full aide to ukraine
Appearing to rule out next actions and then do it later on all the same is also strategic ambiguity but tgat does not mean the opposing side is not aware of these staategies and manoeuvres.
The UN Charter chapter 7 article 41 states that economic sanctions & severing of diplomatic ties should be employed to avoid world wars. Removed Russia & China from UN membership for all of those violations in the rule of law then apply a more effective military intervention. If not then, we should scrap international law just to accomodate Russia & China's expansionist goals.
One thing i don't get in Pootins rhetoric is he is allowed to send troops to Ukraine, but the West isn't.
Firstly, he stated a while back he was happy for the West to meet him on the battlefield. Why?
Secondly, IF sending your troops to your neighbours doorstep is an act of war, then Pootin did this already by sending his troops to Ukraine. If Russia is under attack, then so are the Wests countries that border Russia.
I feel like we are putting too much pressure on Germany. Why not the other EU countries. Why the focus on Germany?
If NATO does not want or cant fight the Russians in Ukraine it certainly wont fight the Russians once they have attacked the NATO countries such as Baltic countries. Defeat for Ukraine may happen quicker than thought as troops would lose courage without enough ammo.
Of course it wouldn't. What made you think otherwise? A piece of paper?
I think EU is in despair and huge disunity.@@urbansenicar81
Thank you Emanuel ❤