Roofing company tried to scam me!!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ย. 2023
- Be careful because not all construction companies are honest. Some companies try to take advantage of people. I had a roofing company try and charge me double what the going rate should have been to put on my standing seam roof. Good thing I know how much this work should cost because I have done it myself several times.
I have been watching your videos for quite some time. I am amazed how well you are able to direct and focus the camera, communicate the details in construction, the pros and cons of methods, materials and networking with the right suppliers and subs. You also provide us with with just the right amount of humor. I came to realize this today as you were doing this all while walking on a roof. But I guess this is not much different in elevation than foundation and basement work. I'm glad you had the chance to get this roof completed before another winter hits.
Thank you for the nice comment I really do appreciate it. 😀
the nerve of the companies that think they have won the lottery when you ask for a quote.Part of this situation is some people would pay with no questions ask,good job Bondo
Yes some people would have no clue but I told this guy I know what this job should cost. LOL
Sometimes estimates are high just because they don't want the job, but if you are willing to pay the exorbitant price, then it makes it worth it to them. My best friend brought me along for an estimate at a big chain buffet restaurant. The work needed was for health code violations. I've never stepped foot in that restaurant again!
I just had my electric service upgraded. I got 3 quotes between 5600.00-6300.00 and one that was more on point for close to 3500.00.
Many companies are abusing the “since the “C” materials have gone up”.
I priced materials needed for under 1000.00 and with my construction background would have supervised my adult sons while doing most of it had I not gotten the low bid from a reputable company.
Crazy that we have to get that many quotes to find one honest contractor.
Man you guys make everything look so easy. Total pros and great craftsmanship, all the while completely stress free. Relaxing to watch.
Thank you I appreciate that comment bud.
Perfect timing on this video that affirms my decision on using this cold roof concept on my new shop. I'm going to do the standing seam roof with a vaulted ceiling inside and wanting to implement the ventlation on top of the deck to help keep things cooler. Thanks for taking the time and sharing the details.
Awesome so glad to help. You won't regret doing it that way at all.
It’s amazing what’s out there today. Not only price but craftsmanship. I feel bad for the customers that don’t know any better. Came out good
Yes I do feel bad and that is why I do these videos. hopefully educate people out there.
Your attention to detail is admirable. I LOVE your ability to make it work and get ''er DONE! Well done Mr. Bond. Very impressive. Love your videos and explanations. Thank you Sir!
Thanks I try my best. Glad to help anyone who wants to do quality work.
I have a seamless gutter business. Don’t let anybody put anything smaller than 6 inch on your house with 3 x 4 downspouts.
I appreciate this comment
Good info thanks bud.
@@bondobuilt386 also make sure they use .032 aluminum not the standard .O27 and Raytec makes the best hangers also stainless steel fasteners if you don’t want to see rust streaks in about five years
I was a standing seem roof mechanic for ten years. This roof is what we called a slammer. In and out in one day 365 per sq so ten squares is 3.650.00 bucks. 5 grand would be top top of the market.
Oh cool... I saw the earlier videos on this project. IDK if you have a playlist for this project, but if not you really should make one... and maybe update us on the inside of this thing too (if you didn't in this video). Anyway, I love your channel and I thank you for sharing these projects with us.
Thanks for the comment. I can try and make this a playlist.
Thank you for the precise detail. I love your way of venting the metal roof. The zip panels and the stick-down ice/water barrier are top quality. I assume the perforated metal is aluminum or is it stainless steel?
Thanks the perforated metal has a coating on it. It does not rust
Love your doing the metal roofing the right way. So many people refuse to run vertical strapping. I prefer 2x horizontal boards for the screws but thats just me. Keep up the great work
Bondo, my back hurts from watching you prep the roof lol. Turned out nice 👍🏼
Ya it sucks but not to steep at least. LOL
I have standing seam metal on my house here in Florida.
There are companies that bring the machine to make it right to the job site.
Its all on a trailer, they can make the 5 V or standing seam.
They measure the exact length needed and stack the various lengths in separate piles.
Looks like your doing a nice job on that Bondo.
As for the bid you got, they simply threw you a high hard one in the hope that you would swing at it. lol
Yup they did. LOL. The guy did bring the machine here but I was hunting in Misouri when he did it.
I always get material quotes prior to talking to contractors. That way I have an idea of the cost. Your metal roof looks amazing
I knew the materials would be around 5K so the first quote of 20 K made me laugh.
Good morning Bondo. I’m a Service Disabled Combat Veteran who is rated 100%, Permanent & Total. I have been watching your videos and I really like your content. I have a lot of frustration with today’s America yet I want you to know that I look at my situation and I tell myself that my sacrifice was for people like you 🫵 Bondo. The others, I will never acknowledge because they are worse than the enemy overseas. This post is for you personally and your crew. MAGA!
Thomas thank you for you service sir. It is because of you and others sacrifice that I can do this work and produce these videos. God bless you sir. Also because of comments like this one I continue to do all these videos for you all. 👃👃😃
Great jop on the prep work, finished roof looks great too
I work for a roofing company here in North Carolina for 8 and a half years did a lot of standing standing seam roof they rip you off because they came in and they're just ridiculous
Yes it was a ridiculous quote.
Ok…. A couple things here Ronny. First……. Uncle Jim’s waitin by the phone for a call. “Hey, come to upstate NY & help a friend with a little roof work. Second……. How about some Missouri huntin stories. Thanks. Great quality work.
Uncle Jim I got an 8 point in Misouri. Not as big as the 2 bucks I got last year buddy. If you came here to help with the roof we probably just sit around drinking some cold beers and it wouldn't get done. LOL 😀
Looks great, like the venting system.
Thanks
I would have put radiant barrier fabric between the vertical and horizontal purlins.
You would be surprised how much heat is reflected. Down in the cold and skyward in the summer. Well worth it.
Considering your purlin configuration, it is the ideal application method. The fabric would be hidden, protected and very effective... you have an air space on both sides.
I used to work for the local redi mix. We had a contractor that ran a4 man crew. Poured maybe 5 yards a week. Had all the best equipment, power buggies, skid loader. I asked the owner once and he told me he bids every job at 5x the going rate. Stays just busy enough, makes tons of money doing less work.
So that 16,500 was only for the metal and installation of the metal? How much of that was material?
Looks awesome Great job!
Thanks.
Standing seam around here is $650/square labor and material included in Georgia. Will go down in the coming year as people scramble for work
Use a spacer jig when nailing your wood strips on helps to go faster with less measuring.
what was the price difference from the scammers to the guys that ended up installing it?
$9500 more they wanted from the first quote.
It looks good. The screen and flashing detail will make it very long lasting.
Thank you 😀
"He's in Peru" me looking up Peru and how to disappear to in the night.
Contractor scamming - can't believe they would even do it to their own fellow trade colleagues, let alone to innocent clueless homeowners. Currently dealing with similar issue: new single home electrical job that costs approximately $20K and a local contractor quoting me $81K despite providing them detailed scope if work what to quote: openings, conduit, etc. I could barely contain myself to not insult them when I answered the phone after they tried to follow up with me twice but I chose not to engage since it was pointless and would not amount to anything good. How can we talk about respect in this situation? They spit in customers' face and then complain how bad all customers are. Needless to say, I obtained 5 more quotes and the one from the company being the longest of all in business provided best value. Thank you for exposing these parasites living in every community and urging people to always question stuff rather than accepting to be intimidated by the contractor and just pay.
Roof looks beautiful
A few bad apples puts a black eye on the whole industry. Roof looks awesome
I bought two properties and both had roof issues because of the bad attitude of those who installed them. I am not trying to say roofers are bad because when I opened walls I find out that some contractors, who did repairs last time, did not bother to put insulation back in. It would be all good until I pulled plywood in the attic to add some more insulation and see that electrician cuts corners and run wires over joist and another contractor just placed plywood on those wires....
Thats crazy. I have to check everything. @@andreycham4797
Thanks and I agree.
Great job on the roof bondo. I actually used your vented roof deck assembly you showed on a previous video for on my shop, though I used rough cut 2x4’s (hemlock) for the verticals to cantilever out for my eve overhang, then the rough cut pine 1x4s horizontals on that. Only used 29 galvalume panels (budget build) but I’m very pleased with the roof. I’ll be packing my purlins with R38 insulation, plus 1.5” of Polyiso from the ZipR sheathing I used for the roof deck.
I did mine that way many years ago. The neighbors on both sides of my house have gone through several asphalt shingle roofs. Mine, just one, very first home improvement on this place.
Sounds like a good insulation detail.
You are smart @@kevinhornbuckle
Your prep work was awesome.
Drone?
Thanks. I do need a drone
@@bondobuilt386 I like your no nonsense videos .
No long lead-in with music and needless panaromic visuals but some some drone shots of your work would further highlight your craftsmanship.
It’s amazing how companies try to get over on people.👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I know its crazy.
5 months ago I had a guy give me a quote for siding my 1200 square foot house for 47K.
LOL thats crazy.
👍Looks good. It’s a shame (sham) how today’s cost are outta this world!! Seems there’s lots of creeps in the business relying on other folks ignorance (or stupidity) and expecting to get RICH off of that ONE job! I hope it turns around soon but suspect it’ll only get worse. So hard to get by these days.
*BONDO, I think you run your company w/ a bit of ethics & The Golden Rule. That costly estimate w/ the roofing co. will remind you when you’re giving estimates to us normal hard working men and women that really need your services but can’t just pull cash off a money tree. Thx for keeping it real.
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Thanks for the comment and yes I try and be fair with how much I charge. Some day when the channel gets real big I am going to do some stuff free and just take the TH-cam revenue
@@bondobuilt386 👍Great idea! I’m sure it’ll be a hit on TH-cam as everyone loves it when a co., gives IT away.
Maybe you could adjust bids, say… adding $100 misc charges (or ?) then when the $$ builds up you could afford to give a small project away. Just an idea. Best to ya sir and God blessings to ya! 👍🇺🇸
It was 10500 just to have the steel put on?
Yes material and labor for trim and everything. The other dude was at 20 K.
I like the nice flag you have hanging on the front. I also love your video's.
Thank you and glad you enjoy the videos.
Great job bondo
That's the "the job is too small, but if they're dumb enough to pay it, I'll do it" price.
miller lite, thoihht that was outlawed,,,,,,,,,,bud only here bud, great job again
Talk about being ripped off. The latest flim-flam from a nationally known Co advertising big time on TV will do a complete removal and insulation of a new walk-in shower in just one day, they'll even finance the job. I as a retired gen. contractor had a friend request for an estimate from their high-pressure salesman, The job should have cost anywhere from $3,500 - to $7,500 depending on options. His quote was a special price of $24,000 if he signed now. What happened to the 72 hr law?
That is crazy. Who would pay that?
People are easily persuaded to believe. In-house finance, no payments made for x amount of months, etc. Samething in real estate, buying a vehicle, the list goes on. When we were in business in NJ we worked all year round "like you" because we were fair and did quality work start to finish.
Good Eating there Bondo. Mmm hmm! 🦌 roof looks good too. 😎
You being a contractor you know they did not want the job so they overpriced the job ; twice! However I am a finish contractor and I just say “ listen sir I am booked up”!
I think they should have wanted the job as this is the easiest standing seam job you will ever see. I had it totally ready. No penetrations and a 2 over 12 pitch. LOL
I would have thought that you could have started on an end, then forced the panels to align with the roofing above using chalk lines, measuring, and eyeballing. The roofing machine should be able to do minor adjustments in the width of the panels if necessary, and you just need to keep it all straight.
Some of the roofing quotes I've seen are downright scary.
I have a couple of roofing projects coming up, and have finally found a used roofing machine that should pay for itself with the first few projects. Then, when I'm done with it, pass it on.
I probably should have bought my buddies machine but I do not want to be a roofer. LOL I can't keep up with concrete.
I have to get a couple of your shirts my buddy last name is bond he would get a kick out of it do you have a website?
I do not have a mercy set up yet.
Well everyone has a right to charge whatever they want I never operated that way but I knew quite a few that did I couldn't live with myself but some can
Ya I do not do that I just will say no to the job.
Getter done before sled season!
Yup for sure buddy. LOL
That’s a 100 year roof right there, hmmmmm?
LOL yup
MAX USA nail gun...very nice
Love it.
Looks like your screen/mesh is stainless steel perforated sheet metal... not cheap. My company uses that material as part of high pressure strainers in special hydraulic applications (holds a finer mesh and resides upstream of fine filtration).
Prep work and concrete is not wasted prep work in nailing fasteners to a roof going an extra nail does not hurt forever if you had uplift or wind shear it would prevent damage that does happen always use ring shank nails sorry Bondo not being critical just important detail for integrity😢
I sure did use ring shank nails.
Looks good.
Nice flag 👍
Thanks Andy. 😀
Christ do they have surgeons that come in to install roofs on the day off....Brothers friend sells steel, he ran a strip of copper wire along the top of the side that sees moss, and never sees any.
I know crazy right?
That is how Clay tile roofs are put on.
Yes they are.
291 👍's up BB thank you for sharing 😊
Thank you
what was there responds?
They said well we don't get every job we quote and I laughed and said you won't get many charging that much. LOL
Name the company so ppl aware ..😢😢
No I do not want to do that but they will get caught up with.
Great job! Do you have a brand and part number for the screen? I have been searching hi and low on the web for it and have not found it. Thank you!,.. MAGA!!!!
Well Gee.... When you give YOUR customers ridiculously high quotes somehow YOU feel it's Justified ? But not when it's done to you????😂😂😂😂
I have never quoted a job double what it should cost. Especially in concrete there are variables that I do some things much different than the next guy. Not the case here with this roof. Only one way it needs to be done.
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It was hard to picture the screen vent because you did not show a side profile.
I showed it a few times in the video.
@@bondobuilt386 I missed it. 😞
Nice work Bondo! Was thinking about doing this at my place and didn't see any good details online about venting a shed roof going into a solid side wall. Then
boom-this video popped up. Always enjoy your thoughtful ways/details and words of wisdom over the videos. Happy Holidays!
Thank you and I am glad the video helped ya. @@MJ-ws5kx
I guess I need to get out more often, and I am getting old, but it appears to me you did the lions share of the really hard work involved with your project, and it still cost you $10,500? I’m not familiar with that style of roofing, I would assume it started out as roll steel, and was formed on a machine, like they do continuous gutter? The first guy just sounded like he had a problem with integrity, or more correctly a lack there of. Once word gets around about that kind of business practice, your reputation usually proceeds you, and your opportunities eventually disappear. Everyone is due their just reward for doing a good job, but trying to make your season from just a few jobs can and will backfire on you, especially when the lean times come, and you suddenly find yourself looking for work that usually just fell in your lap. As a business owner at one point, we all experience that from time to time, especially when you get in our current political climate. People can’t spend money they don’t have, unless they follow the policies we’re governed under currently. You did a nice job, especially considering there was no mud involved! 👍👌😉 Hope you had your snow equipment ready yesterday, I would assume you needed it! 😊
Thanks I agree with all you say here and yes we got over a foot of snow yesterday. LOL
@@bondobuilt386Don’t take this wrong, but better you, than me with the snow! LOL 😂 Where I’m located, east of you, we get lake effect from Erie and Ontario, sometimes simultaneously, so we won’t go unscathed this year! LOL 😂
Roofing companies, much like many scumbag concrete companies are some of the worst scammers ever because they KNOW they can charge whatever they want and most will just take out a loan and get it done. There is a reason the roofer down the street from me has a 3 acre front yard that has a landscaping bill every month more than my mortgage and drives a 2022 Bentley: Because he is a scumbag.
All his work trucks are brand new show trucks with show paint or custom wraps and he hires about 50 sales people per month filling their heads with dreams of easy money just so they will go out and knock on doors and maybe sell a roof or two to family before quitting. What trash
people are out there to make money at the same time bud. just like you are when you do concrete.
Looks like you're being scammed. 0:03 Nice roof anyway!
OMG, whats that metal a square? $150? 4 hour install for a 2-3 man crew? holy smokes, did they think you needed the entire lean two built as well or WTF? that's just ignorant, I know areas in seattle are charging ridiculous prices for work cuz there are no qualified people to keep up with the demand but holy fookin christmas thats unreal? they charged you over 4 times a reasonable amount depending on if it was material or just labor? FFS
also for a simple lean two why so complicated? plywood, weather sealant, on and on, we stand up a 2x6 and call it a day, 2 ft on centers.. what gives with all these layers so forth? even if its living space its a bit much, you ran perlins 2 different directions on top of plywood? WHY? you could have just ran it on the ply wood, 8 penny call it a day, 2 layers of air space really isn't worth the added work and material, it's just more to go wrong if something goes wrong?
good grief $10k for 10 squares of metal roofing?
its generally around $2.50 a SF, one SQUARE is $250.00? 10 squares is $2500.00? a few hunnerd for fastening supplies, maybe $500 for caps and corners yadda yadda, it's a 4 hour job or you aren't skilled enough to be up on the roof go flip burgers...
this is a $5k MAX job time and materials, warranty as well
bottom line is this contractor sent a few monkeys up there to do it in a half day, paid em $200 each maybe, then pockets $5000 AFTER TAXES... unreal . . . the dood that wanted to charge you $20k was going to pocket $15k for a small 4 hr job... too many crooks today, no one wants to work, they want to hire illegals that do scrub work, pathetic, they're pathetic, I worked construction all my life up and down, residential, freeway, commercial, I worked, I didn't look at anyone with 2 legs as an ATM to buy my next boat or put my kids thru college... just unreal . . .
they prolly installed the cheapest chynese metal they could find . . . why I do my own work, regardless, cars, motorbikes, music gear, whatever.. I don't get raped and I know its quality work and quality materials or parts...
glad you were on the up and up to punt that first bid, should be illegal
The mistake they made was getting caught trying to rape a customer .
You got hosed Bondo.
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Thats not me Bondo hehehe
LOL 😀@@teamdada2194
Geee.... it's almost like companies Do NOT want to work for " cost only" and want to make some profit?!?! What a novel concept!!! ...... It's not like you do it in your business?????
16,500 is pretty steep. Especially for upstate NY. It’s a pretty simple job. No hips,valleys, dormers etc. 10000 profit for a days work with 2 guys.
In RI it’s pretty much double the material cost for most roofing companies here. They would strip, underlayment,new rakes,drip edges, ice & water starters shingles caps plus haul it all away. Metal roofing is tit
The materials are around 5K for this 2 day job. The first quote was 20K. Come on bud??
supply and demand. theres been times ill give a customer a bid with a 70% net profit margin all they'll accept it. and like your said if you didn't know what ill cost you would have payed it. guess what most people don't know every trade/job, so your not my targeted customer. why do 2 jobs when 1 nets you the same for both
I can see making a profit but not taking advantage of people either.
I have been watching for a short time and I started watching your episode about standing seam roof. I thought you were a sensible and smart person but when I saw a Trump sign on your house I couldn’t believe you want to have a Putin wanna be dictator for president I can’t watch anymore .
Don't we live in the USA? Can we not have a difference in political opinions:? Should I hate you because you like a different political party? Sounds crazy to me. Do not watch anymore then.
At present we do live in a free country. But if you listen to “old bone spur” Trump we won’t if he gets elected. He will be telling you how much rebar, not that he even knows what that is, to use when you are doing a job. When he says how much he admires Putin an Xi from China and how many people they control with a heavy hand do you want to live like they do and have your kids and grand kids be controlled by him. He wants to be a dictator and stay in office for years to come.
Not sure what "Induced" materials are. Was that wrtten by a 3 year old? I think they meant "Included". That aside it's kind of F&*ked up of you as a contractor yourself to call the other company's quote a "Scam". Seem s high to me for sure, that doesn't mean it's a scam. A scam would be if they came in, picked up a deposit and never showed back up, or didn't fulfill the terms of the contract. PLUS you're basing your pricing on work you had done years ago by "Side Job Bob" who is now residing in South America. (What charges did he flee from?). Just because you don't like the price, doesn't mean it's a scam. I'm in MD. I have a small service company, we charge $175.00 for the 1st hour and $32.50 a 1/4 hr after. My brother in law has a small roofing company. He charges a $350.00 minimum for repairs and they're getting about $450.00 a square for shingles on tear offs. Want to know how often we hear this crap from people who havent had hired anyone for a few years? Stuff costs more now.
Well I get your point but the scam was quoting the job for $1900 a square and then when I called them out saying they messed up and then changing the quote from 20K TO 16.5K Then I get a reputable contractor to do it for 10.5 K. That has nothing to do with my buddy who moved to South America. I didn't expect to get it done that cheap as I also helped him. And look at his work he was by no means a side job Bob. Watch the attached video of him working.
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Now there's your scammy fraud.
I really enjoyed your videos until I saw the Trump flag on your house. Count me unsubscribed and disappointed.
I am glad you unsubscribed then. I live in the USA and we all have the right to support whatever political party we choose. Land of the free.
@@bondobuilt386 It's sad when some people don't want to make America great again.
May the Lord bless you and your family. That TRUMP Flag is pure class. Where is BB?
Thanks. He does not like roofing. LOL