Bad Pokemon that Won Tournaments
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Ever wonder what the WORST Pokemon that ever won a tournament was? I'm here to answer that question.
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"Worsr"
Yo worsr
Worsr 🤯
Worsr
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“This let Cottonee reliably check Xerneas” is probably the funniest sentence I’ve heard in a while
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Idk how I missed that but after reading your comment I died laughing thinking about how ridiculous that is
@@shortswithshilpi Just conceptually, a God being checked by a ball of cotton is funny.
Who would win?
Legendary deer that can share eternal life
OR
tiny ball of cotton
???
There were 5 specific attacks that I was trying to get the "Whimsicott" slot to survive. Whimsicott could only survive 3, whereas Cottonee could only just survive all 5. I've long forgotten what they were.
I will gladly take the title of weirdest Pokemon used to win a tournament :)
absolute legend
❤
Took the liberty to go through your team report video to see the attacks it was meant to survive, for those interested:
Cottonee was 252 HP, 100 Defense, 156 Special Defense EVs, Bold Nature with 2 Speed IVs.
252 Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 100+ Def Eviolite Cottonee: (78.9-95.2%)
252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 100+ Def Eviolite Cottonee: (80.9-96.5%)
+2 252 SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Eviolite Cottonee: (83.6-98.6%)
252 SpA Aerilate Mega Salamence Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Eviolite Cottonee: (85.7-102%)
And a calc that was mentioned but wasn't put in the video but I think I managed to figure out?:
252 SpA Kyogre-Primal Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Eviolite Cottonee: (80.2 - 95.2%)
why are you based
Thank you for bringing some diversity
Darkrai: You took everything from me
Smeargle: I don't even know who you are
Actually smeargle does know who darkrai is as it sketched the move from darkrai
LMFAO
@@jamesgiles4517 🤓
@@sheban777 I get the joke
Not necessary, it could sketch it from another smeargle
Whoever thought giving eevee it's Z-move with it learning baton pass was an idea that wouldn't be used for cheese is a mad man that I fear
Don't know if you can still call it cheese after it Top 8's 2 regionals and wins a 3rd 🤔
It is Z-move
Probably the same person who made Dondozo
@@jakevelten yeh eevee was dominating gen 7 ubers meta for a while n early gen 8 meta
I remember seeing it and was wondering how they let that slip through the cracks, while BUTTERFREE AND SANDSLASH got massive nerfs n ledian ariados donphan and the plusle minun were TERRIBLE
Persuasion 100 in order to convince everyone else it was a good idea
I am surprised he didn't talk about cherrim,that thing literally won a junior world championship because of its ability having great synergy with Groudon
Im guessing it wasn’t weak enough as a final evolution and has too “special” of an ability to make the cut for the video when compared to the other 3, because unfortunately Im pretty sure there are a few more really interesting picks that were excluded for the sake of time.
im pretty sure wolfe's even used cherrim in the recent past and knows how good it is in sun teams
Probably because Cherrim is an actually good Pokemon. Like not crazy strong or anything but like Smeargle and Shedinja has a really good ability that gives it a slot in specific teams.
@@burstvgc yeah he used a cherrim/groudon team
Cherrim is a shitmon in most scenarios but it's basically created for Doubles + Sun, not that weird in that case
I swear if I see Frosmoth win worlds, I'll eat my shirt.
I’ll hold you on that
@@THE_VOLD Look, I know that it isn't the strongest, but it is my 2nd favorite so I want to see at least 1 team Bring it to worlds
(melts shirt in acid, then mixes an alkali of the same strength to make it water, then freezing it back to a solid (Ice) so that I can eat it.)
Like any true moth would.
It would be a funny idea to pair frosmoth, ting lu and slowking. Mostly because I can imagine the bulk frosmoth would have to quiver dance after a chilly reception+ stab blizzard.
Ting lu would be a nice pairing because frosmoth resists ground so blizzard + earthquake spam might go crazy. Also ice scales + ting lus ruin ability making it a special tank.
"They didn't use these Pokemon because they were weak, they used them despite that"
That's oddly an inspiring quote
Soul crushing as a Magikarp wipes your team.
@@BLOODKINGbro Wrong, actually. Magikarp doesn't fit into this category, since there isn't a single niche where you'd use it when better options are available.
@LitPinata What? Did you not read the title mate. Literally "How these weak pokemon beat everyone" and you think Magikarp that is the weakest Pokémon of the series and the game. With the in-game move set where Magikarp only has one move - Splash - that has literally no effect on its opponents. Yet it can be set up to sweep a team. Does not fit the criteria?
How are you rationalizing to the contrary?
@@BLOODKINGbro …If you paid more attention to the video, you'd know that these Pokémon are being used because they can do something nothing else could.
*Nobody in their right mind would use Magikarp over Barraskewda, in any situation.*
Also, Magikarp gets Tackle, Flail, and Hydro Pump too. Though, those don't help its case, since others do those jobs better.
btw its not despite its In Spite
Wait cottonee is kinda hype though, I could definitely see a situation when it comes back in the dlc where it might be more prefarable than whimsicott.
The issue with Cottonee is that it doesn't have Tailwind as of gen 8. If it gets it back it'll be worth looking into, but boosting teams have already had some counters worked around due to Dondozo, meaning you don't have as much support power through stuff like safeguard swagger like you used to.
@@rainbowturtle Considering how Tailwind is a TM in Gen 9 and the fact cottonee itself could learn tailwind itself in a previous generation, it makes sense for Cottonee to relearn Tailwind once re-introduced back in Gen 9, unless they pull a BDSP and prevent Pokémon from learning Toxic like Heatran
@Browser Junior that's an assumption that we can't really make, especially since the leaks (at least ones I have seen) haven't had anything on DLC mons so we don't know their new/returning moves. We do know stuff that can be transfered through home when it opens 5/29 though, and cottonee/whims are not on that list (although they are in the dlc)
@@rainbowturtle Fair but I mean Tailwind was a move tutor move for Cottonee specifically in Gen 5 so it’s very likely it is legal and can be learned through tm. Whimsicott learned it naturally at 28/1 and Cottonee only learned it when it was a tutor move. Considering it now is a TM it’s likely they won’t change it
1:51 Funny thing is despite Shedinja having the best ability ever Wonder Guard is only the second best ability for Shedinja right behind sturdy
lol
Yes, it’s REALLY good in Pure Hackmons. Invincible from brute force, and Aromatherapy can remove dangerous statuses.
Not really strange how Haunter and Gastly kept levitate. They actually float, Gengar just waddles over to you in order to steal your soul or whatnot
It is strange that gastly and haunter both levitate and then seemingly devolve with Gengar and return to the ground
gengar floats all the time lol
They should not have removed it, just added cursed body as second ability :(
@@declanclaus6681Maybe it's similar to the ant lion and its weaker adult form,
trading strength for mobility.
The way I see it, Kyogre is surrounded. What's below the ocean? That's right - more ground.
Wow this Lee is literally dog
Holy hell
@@elsleazo9592 new response just drop
Actual response
Then there's the massive subterranean ocean where all the aliens live below that ground tho
imagine how powerful these pokémon would be if they had the world champ difference
Ah yes the “WORSR” Pokémon.
LMAO
(he changed it)
Why still here?
@@PCG06 just to suffer?
@@Lissy_YT481every night and every day
You're the absolute worsr.
To be fair r is right next to t on a keyboard
The fact that he put Megalovania while talking about Shedinja is kinda cool
I wish it synced it up better but I liked After Burner Climax playing when Espeon came up for a bit
I didn’t even notice till I saw this comment. Nice catch!
9:22 minor nitpick but this portrays Eviolite as buffing the base stats, when it boosts the actual stats. Still, great video!
I was going to say, 5 extra base Defense does not seem like a significant defense boost, but I forgot that Eviolite boosts the whole stat.
Yeah it is a big difference. Cottonee at level 100 can have a max defense stat of 240, which goes to 360 with an eviolite. Iron Hands with base 108 defense stat caps out at 346.
Wolfey knows this for sure, it just wouldn't make sense to depict it visually in the way you're describing. People would just get confused
@@TrevorSquiresespecially since all sorts of things can affect the stats at the end, so it's just simpler to depict base stats as most people tend to do
@@homerman76 Still it would have been cool if he used the equivalent base stats. Which assuming the Cottonee has EVs as: 248HP, 124Def and 136 SDef; It is scimilar to 106 base stat on both defenses.
I'm glad that Wolfey shared different stories apart from the famous Pachirisu. Just shows how cool competitive Pokémon can really be.
Also Jamie Boyt is one of the most creative team builders ever
is*! he top cut his last regional with physical howl scream tail holding a power band! Lol
Was?!?!
@@JamieBoytVGC changed it
He did allude to it in that one comment about bad pokemon out in the void, showing pachirisu
Shedinja, 1 ATK 1 DEF, the easiest enemy, only has one hp. (I love how megalovania started playing when Wolfey mentioned it)
I think a better way of viewing this is that sometimes the best pokemon isn't what you expect, not that you dont need to use the best pokemon to win. These examples were all the best choices for exactly what they needed to be
Here before Wolfey changes the title: "What is the WORSR Pokémon to win a tournament?"
I took a screenshot of it lol
☝️
I've always wondered whats the WORSR pokemon to win a tournament
Same
What about the joke? I’m sorry, but I have no idea😂
@@SussyShaymin it was worsr in the title before he changed it.
@@doggo4078 ic thx!
Lol I remember how much Jamie jokingly threatened at bringing Cottonee at the time, and then did it and won. Such a hilariously amazing moment.
Gen 6 really was a gen full of super memorable VGC instances
While Eevee I remember fondly, hearing Haunter and Cottonee too was certainly interesting in how they got used. Power helps, but isn't everything, and it's always cool to see technically weaker Pokémon be used and vital for the team win.
Haunter has proved itself in singles, too.
In gen 9, all 3 members of that line have been stupid good in the tiers where they exist
Jamie Boyt became master chef with that Cottonee set damn
:)
I think I like the idea of weak Pokemon be in the right place at the right time better than Karen's quote. While latter is as inspiring as it is blindly optimistic, the former shows that weaker Pokemon can have potential when needing to fill in a niche only they can provide.
Strangely enough, even strong Pokémon with downsides can fit this as well. Take Weavile in Gen 8 Ubers. It might have had 100 less base points than most Ubers and was utterly frail, but Dark/Ice STAB at its height meant no popular Pokémon withstood both its STABs and there was no held item gimmick save Zamazenta-Crowned and it outspeeds most legendaries.
I feel like Karen's quote can relate that thereby proving any pokemon isn't entirely weak & useless
I once brought a Nosepass to a local back in 2017. I won 2 sets and never returned to competitive since.
9:21 Just a little correction: the effect of Eviolite isn't the same as multiplying their base Defense and Special Defense by 1.5, because Eviolite also multiplies the flat EV boost to those stats. Cottonee's max Defense is 360 with Eviolite, whereas a Pokemon with 90 base Defense would have a max Defense of 306 without Eviolite.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE LEVITATE ANYMORE MARCUS
I wish that he had talked about the groudon cherrim team that won
Cherrim is fairly decent in VGC actually. Not amazing of course but not enough of an off-pick to be in the vid. Also it's fully evolved so maybe that had something to do with jt
The Ghastly and Haunter having levitate actually makes a ton of sense, since they float but Gengar stands. Also the moment I saw haunter I knew he would have eviolite lol
9:20 that's not how Eviolite works. It's really dependent on the set, but I think even uninvested it's a little more than 90/75.
Yeah, it works off actual stats, not base stats. You need to consider EVs and IVs, nature, and even just the five extra points every stat starts with at level 1. Cottonee's defenses were much higher than what was shown in the video
Did a few calcs. At lv 50, Eviolite Cottonee would have effective base defenses of 100/85 with no investment, and 116/101 assuming max investment.
I think it would be funny if Wolfey just kept the title with the typo
Boyt also had a pretty epic run with Cosmog in a MSS at one of the European Regionals. He even used it in a top cut set to trick the opponent into thinking it had Trick Room (it doesn't learn that) and having them target it while Boyt's other mon set up.
Sounds like a complete skill issue on the opponents' side tbh.
The one thing I’ve learned from your videos is that competitive Pokémon is not about having the strongest ‘mon. It’s about having a team that does the things you want when you want them. I like to remind myself of that sometimes. I don’t have to be the best at everything for everyone. I just have to find the people that need something I can provide and give it to them. This concludes our life lessons with Pokémon segment.
I want more of Wolfe mispronouncing pokemon names
I miss the days on Wenusur, smergal, amongus and all the others
He mispronounced text in the title this time
@@fezthedracky8468 "Dekkidooey"
"A few players belieeveed in eevee"
I see what you did there
0:46 I love how they are acting like Regileki’s movepool is in any way good
I love how megalovania was the song choice for shedinja. Very nice touch
Bro you did NOT just say Regieleki had a good movepool LOL.
“Eevee’s stats are worse than voltorbs” bro what did voltorb do to you for such hate 😂
Megalovania as the background music for the shedinja segment was a good touch.
My favorite is still quagsire, the fact that in multiple generations, he checked the legendary powerhouses with the kind of stats he has is inspiring.
thats because Unaware is extremely powerful and Quagsire has the right typing to tank basically anything besides grass moves.
If only I knew all this stuff when I was in middle school. Then I definitely could have beat that kid on my bus who only used legendarys
I can't be the only one expecting Pachirisu to appear
Loving the videos lately and its pretty crazy comparing the editing and audio quality to awhile ago. Felt like just yesterday you were checking occasionally if your face was frozen on the screen.
glad you didn't talk about the elaphant, or in this case, electric squirrel in the room
on the thing about gastly and haunter keeping levitate: if i had to take a guess, the reason that it has it is pretty much the same reason that rotom has it, its a useful ability and their sprites arent grounded, but because gengar is grounded gamefreak realized that levitate didnt make sense anymore
5:40 omg I love the 11th doctor sonic screwdiver on haunter lol
Dude, I'd love to see you trying out Cinccino with Skill Link! Back in the day I was really proud of my Cinccino cause I used it as a sort of wildcard pokemon that could take down a decent variety of types, it learns a few 5 hit moves that guarantee 125 power hits. It was part of my "cute" team, I always built a sort of theme for my teams...
Here's how I used to run it:
Fling
Rock Blast
Bullet Seed
Retaliate
(carrying a Hard Rock to make Rock Blast more effective or to have a 100 pwr dark-move should I need it)
You never start with it cause you wanna surprise your oponents! After one of your pokemon faints, no one expects this cuddly thing to one-shot you with a 140 power Retaliate + stab.
It's not about using the strongest, it's about knowing how to use any of them
Congrats on 1mil Wolfe! So well deserved!
9:21 I can’t unsee that Cottonee is in the Gigachad pose 😂 peak content. It really is a giga chad after seeing the calcs of hits it could live.
5:39 love this gag, doctor who is my fave lol
Extreme Eevoboost art was incredible
The safeguard swagger combo is pretty cool, never thought of that lol
I have been rewatching so much of your content, this feels nice
I love how Megalovania began playing when he brought up Shedinja because it's basically the Sans of Pokémon
Love the shoutout to Boyt!! What a creative teambuilder!
:)
Putting megalovania on the shedinja segment is genius
Xerneas at Cottonee: You dare? YOU DARE!?
The fact that Wolfey put on Megalovania at the moment Shedinja appears in the video is sick.
5:39 Loving the editing here.
Bro didn't just forget Pachurisu💀💀
like one said:
"It is not what you use, but how to use it."
I love it when Wolfey started to play Megalovania when he introduced Shedinja.😂
i like the detail at 1:22 where he uses the megalovania theme for shedinja, where it and sans both have 1 hp
3:36 “this is an unbelievably powerful move…”
Thank you for informing us about the WORSR pokemon used in competitive!
That video ended so abruptly omg
I'm so glad Shedinja isn't in SV
It would just be straight up broken if it had tera Electic, holding an Air Balloon, and you didn't have a Pokemon with like Sandstorm or Will-O-Wisp
That Cottonee thing is some 400 IQ level brilliancy. Might as well use the pre-evolution so that you get can get the pre-evolution bonus, since Focus Sash needs to go elsewhere anyways.
I love that you are using so much (the great) ace attorney music lately ❤
gotta love how megalovania started playing when shedinja got introduced lmao
sans always lingers
loved megalovenia on shedinja representing sans
I don't think it's strange at all that Haunter and Gastly got to keep Levitate because, y'know, they actually Levitate?
Jamie also ran paras in 2017 because it was slower then snorlax with spore and could OHKO kartana with hp fire 252+ spa
HP Fire Paras was pinnacle VGC17
We really glossed over that Tony Nguyen had a Vanilluxe. Its stats are underwhelming and it's coverage is pretty terrible too. What was its role on the team?
Great video once again, Wolfe!
I kinda wish Eevee had a “big chonk” normal type evolution
Megalovania playing at the Shedinja bit sent me LOL
I feel these 3 make an EVIL combo. Slaking, toedscruel and weezing. Neutralising gas nullifies both truant and mycelium might.
I’ve been binging your videos and they’ve been a joy to watch and has convinced me to try out S/V and get back into VGC. The learning curve seemed too steep to get into Sw/Sh onwards but it’s great to see such deep analysis of the new mechanics. Thank you Wolfey!
That evoboost animation was incredible
I was running Sneasel in swsh because it got inner focus while Weavile lost it, had good support moves in fake out and icy wind and still could one shot a dynamax Landorus-T with triple axel.
Cherrim of Shota Yamamoto's team which won Juniors in VGC 2010
Yeah! In the first International in London 2016 I brought a Z Eevee team! I also remember your team with the Substitute Salamence!
Its not very strange that haunter and ghastly kept levitate when they are both floaty boys and gengar got little feet
I love that when Shedinja is talked about megalovania plays
1 hp and can't be hit sounds familiar
It’d be great to see a video in the same format but with items
Now terrastilise Shedninja into electric and give it Air Balloon and you've basically just forced your opponent to use Pokemon with moves like Mold Breaker
Mold Breaker is not a move
Yo, I never knew of that Cottonee set. Props to him because honestly, that pops off!
the eviolite boost is actually larger than the one shown at 9:20 - eviolite grants a boost to the raw stat, not the base stat, which converts to an actually larger base bulk than if the base stats were multiplied
as an example, azumarill has a base stat of 50 - a max of 218 at level 100 or 112 at level 50. if huge power doubled the base stat, that would make a base stat of 100 - max of 328 at level 100 or 167 at level 50. but since it doubles the raw stat, that's a maximum 436 at level 100 or 224 at level 50, roughly 149 base attack, almost tripling the base stat
as for cottonee itself, its base bulk with eviolite would go from base 60 def 50 spdef to base 100 def 86 spdef
thanks for explaining. i was scratching my brain why that tiny boost mattered, especially since cotonee had 20 less base HP
that Cottonee set is downright brilliant
Has anyone else ever wondered how good or bad an offensive or speed variation of eviolite would be competitive? Haunter is a good example for this as the defensive boost is practically useless.
5:53 Strangely? I mean, Gengar is posed as if it stands/walks & is shown on the ground in-games, unlike the anime, where it floats, but Gastly & Haunter float & are lighter to an extreme; It doesn't seem that strange to me why they kept Levitate.
*reads title*
Pachirisu: "it's free real estate"
Oh the Extreme Evoboost. I cannot be more familiar with that. I build an entire team for this and it is insane in both Singles and Doubles.
whimsicott, squaring up to literal gods, "What's a god to a nonbeliever"
I just wanted to say how happy I am to open this video and immediately be greeted with gravity rush music
The Haunter story was cool and all, but it still makes me sad to see just how badly my boy Gengar has fallen from grace to have his little brother replace him.
When somebody seriously brings an weak Pokémon into a match, it can make you wonder, "The hell is my opponent doing?" And then when said Pokémon is pivotal to their strategy, you realize they knew all along what they were doing, and proved that skill is more important than big numbers.