Abandoned Kennecott Railroad
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- Return with us to the abandoned Kennecott Railroad to see what survives including the towns of Copperton and Magna as well as the worlds biggest copper mine. The railway is no longer used, but in total working order. And Magna as well as Copperton, both used as "Granite Flats" in the TV show of the same name.
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What is unique to me is that you two actually grew up in these places. Must be sad to see how some of the places have been wiped out. Thanks for posting.
Thanks. Strange to see the changes. The memories are the great aspect. Remembering Bingham Canyon. Wonderful.
Just a few updates and one correction: The last train out of the tunnel to the Garfield smelter was in May 2001 as opposed to the mid 1990's. Since then the tracks have been unused and have been allowed to deteriorate for the last 21 years. The "low line" was scrapped and pulled up around 2016 give or take. The high line was intact until the realignment of 6200 south at U-11 severed the line several years back. As of last week 4/12/2022, both U-111 railroad bridges have been demolished for the widening of U-111. Several short stints remain and will likely be untouched unless commercial and residential construction and expansion necessitates its removal.
Wow. If I ever own a locomotive in my lifetime, I know where I'm taking it. Huge fan! Been here since big boy going home!
Thanks!! Love to see a speeder event on this line. But Kennacott will only allow deer on the line.
Wow! I really enjoy your channel, which I discovered by accident about 6 weeks ago & I can't stop watching!! I love all the train videos and the historic old towns, homes, etc. You are an excellent commentator... amusing, interesting & just plain fun!! Thank you Toy Man! Keep up the good work screwing around!
Thanks! Karyn and I have a ball together making them.
And that certainly comes across as well, adding to our enjoyment! You're just a couple of Senior teenage delinquents! Happy Holidays & safe travels to you both! 🤗🎄
Kerri Dillon That's how Dale and I met.. I found Toy Man Television quite by accident, when my silly Rat Fink video was linked to "The Rat Fink Reunion " Toy Man Television... and he is practically in my neighborhood! I watched his show.. fell in love with the '67 Mustang he was driving.... and commented. We began corresponding... eventually met in person. Found we have a lot in common.. Next thing you know, we were getting married! Great story... All here on the channel!
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I saw your Rat Fink wedding...congratulations and happiness always!!
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Your videos have become the best part of my Sunday mornings. The little notification pop is the best alarm I have.
I am officially a fan. Love both of you and the footage and commentary is a enjoyable. Thanks for sharing.
Fun days. Thanks!!!!
I remember growing up near this mine and going to family outings at Copperton Park. I would go to the parking lot across from the park that had a downhill view of that switch yard. I’d watch all the working trains. This was in the late 80’s.
Copperton is a special place. I love that they keep up the old miner housing homes/community.
Copperton is really cool. Built as a utopian village. And making quite a come back.
Funny that I stumble across this now. I just saw an old Kennecott locomotive the other day. I saw Norfolk Southern SD40-2 #3521 floating around Decatur, IL, the other day, which was built as Kennecott #105 in 1978.
Surprising how many places have old Kennecott locomotives. They pop up in almost every museum! I suppose Kennecott has always had a policy of giving these things away or selling them. I know a lot of their engines have been just given to museums
Great looking train yard
Right?
Thanks a lot for all these interesting American railroad documentaries!
Thanks. Still want to get a drone out tho this one!!
My dad grew up in Garfield, Utah. He graduated from Cyprus High in 1942. His mother's family were original settlers of "Pleasant Green"
This channel is a fantastic find! I grew up West Jordan and went to middle school at the Old Bingham High School in Copperton. The old Bingham High School is the only thing missing from the township. Taking that long bus ride to Bingham Canyon was a lot like catching the train the to Hogwarts. We passed Elk and Deer and settling ponds and the Old Cemetary on the way. The school itself looked much like East High, ornate brick pillars and a large copper relief of the mine scene as you came in the front doors. There was a bomb shelter in the basement along with Asbestos Warning signs and a creepy boiler room. A few classrooms had holes in the plaster walls. Someone started a fire in one during Home Econ. once. The tennis courts and field house were in ruins so we stepped around the broken glass and walked on a gravel path out to the dirt and asphalt track to run and play soccer. When everyone else was having anti-drug assemblies, we were watching Kennecott Conveyor Belt Safety films so that we would have the fear of being juiced in our heads if any of us decided to wander off campus. Almost the entire school skipped class to run around the city park the last two days of school. An officer would herd us around in circles from his cruiser. Good times. I miss that building.
Now I live on the other side of the mine in Tooele. I stumbled onto your channel with the video you did of the train museum there. Love your series! Keep screwing around!!
What a cool little town though.
You are very professional with your presentations. Very nice
Love your shows...Ever think of building a little rail cart for two plus a pet or two..small pop up tent like these roof to tents...Wow now that would be an adventure
Pet yes! Cart... well we have looked into a speeder...
O ya ....what an adventure..I really looking forward to doing one myself..
AWESOME GOOD VIDEO VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND SCREWING AROUND WITH YOUR SUBSCRIBERS MLM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR VIDEO AND COMMENTS ABOUT THE MINE AND RAILROAD INFORMATION VERY HELPFUL THANKS AGAIN JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA THANK YOU BOTH. 👍👍👍👍🙂😁GOD BLESS YOUR GRANDMOTHER FOR HAVING YOU COME HOME TO A HOLIDAY AND SHOWING US YOUR CURB SPOT TO SIT ON AWESOME NICE THANK YOU AGAIN BOTH OF YOU JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA 😁🙂👍👍👍👍
What a blast from the past!
I worked there from 1980 until 2005, mostly in the pit. Electric locos ran in the pit until the shutdown in the 1980s very much as you describe. If you look on google earth now, the rails from Copperton to Magna disappear near Magna and the old Bonneville concentrator no longer exists. When I left, KUCC ran tank cars with sulfuric acid as you indicate and the refinery loaded boxcars with their end product which was refined copper plates sent to buyers across the country. Yes, the property has been fenced off but I remember the areas with little human activity as mostly a game preserve.
Yup!! Deer everywhere. Want to get out there wit a drone!! No way to get inside.
very interesting, thank you for that info. love to see the way the old country use to be, again thank you very much !!!!!!!!!!
I love old photos. The ones I remember make me feel old though.
we are all getting there, can't stop that but we sill can enjoy thanks again, matt
My late grandfather worked for ASARCO prior to attending ASU. That whole part of Central Arizona is beautiful and interesting.
I have really enjoying your shows , I feel like your both My aunt and uncle, I enjoy you both , Be safe.
Hi and you stay safe too! If this isn’t the strangest thing we all live through. Looking forward to getting out there and exploring things like hold minds again, in the meantime will stay here and work on our model railroad
Excellent video! 👍
Been to the top of the mine in the late 70's it was huge then. Nice to see the history.
When we were kids it was 1200 feet deep. They would always say you could stand the Empire State building in it. Then they said you would be looking down on it. Today you could almost stand 3 of them in there.
Fanatic High desert Railroader Hurry the hell up
Very interesting information about lost or abandoned railways.
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I like you video. The way you tell the story, reminds me of my grand parents telling an old story
wow, I am amazed! I always thought that a railroad was at the bottom of the mine on the east side going to and from the smelter, but still an amusing episode.
Fun looking back.
Looks like a great abandoned line for 'Speeder' excursions .......
If Kennacott would... But they are not into anything fun. Upside is the the line if fenced except in Magna and a bit south. No way to get in at all!!! We shot form behind the fences. If you look close, in 2 shots there are deer on the tracks. The area has become a wildlife preserve. For real!! A local collage has taken over wildlife management for the grade. BUt lots of wildlife on the old grade.
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very very nice loveg it
They are keeping it. No use as of now but they are keeping it anyway
Nice, it's amazing how the mine the copper.
People know about the gold rushes, and silver, but the richest digs in the world are the mountains west of Salt Lake. This mine is just one of them, and it's the biggest in the world.
That whole operation looks to me like it would make a killer switching layout to model....
Nice video! Interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing!
I notice Kathryn has on her Brooks Institute sweatshirt. You may have yours on too, though I think your says "Subscribe".
I have often wandered around Magna thinking about the rail link with the mine. You are answering those ?s for me. Yes, Copperton is a beautiful little town. Copper roofs, who would have thought. I was looking for a nice little diner to have breakfast at some morning. None to be found. Didn't want to knock on somebody's door and invite myself in for breakfast. The mine conveyor system has to be a whole story unto itself which starts at the gyratory crusher. That is a long conveyor system.
Good job Dale as usual. I wonder what the protracted life of this mine might be? Well, another great history lesson, and l will see you next week.
Hard fixing the slide. There was talk about giving up, closing down. It's so deep now that the sides are so steep!! There is a plan, may happen, to sink a shaft in the center of the pit and switch to hard rock mining under the pit!!! Time will tell. But the pit seems to be at the breaking point. It's over a mile wide, but to reduce the slope it would need to be more like 2 miles, and at that point it means removing the entire mountain range!! HOWEVER, they are also looking at that.
Wow! That would be incredible. I would think if there is plenty of copper to mine, and money to be made, they would find a way. Thanks.
That they will!
Not all the track is contiguous. The track leaves Copperton and heads north, crossing U-111. But the Mountain View Corridor cut off the track (and indeed, the former rail grade is being used for a chunk of the Mountain View Trail). The rail is also split at 6200 South, and the northern bridge across U-111 was demolished a few years ago.
Didn’t know. Slow demise.
thanks for showing
Thanks for watching!
loved your vid. used to live in utah loved every minute of it. say can you possabley get a picture of one of the kennacott diesel for me that would be very much appricated thanks.
Love to get out there with a drone!!! Get over the fences! Hum.......
restored up here in the Michigan state fare grounds retrofitted building with plenty of space and a active rail freight train main line behind the building
Great Chanel! I love watching you folks. Have you been to the Historic
Wendover Air Field and Museum? If not you really should go.
Yes!!! Love it. take a look at th-cam.com/video/kOmVcCOTjnQ/w-d-xo.html
okay to questions you said it used to be a TV set what television program was shot there second question is there a possibility of running speedsters on the abandoned line that would be a great adventure thank you for another great adventure
I doubt Rio Tinto would let speeders on the line. They are just not interested in anything outside of mining. The TV show is Granite Flats. Used the Magna main street and much of Copperton as the town of Granite Flats. Great little show, hard to find though. Made by a PBS Station. www.byutv.org/show/0aea4804-47dc-470f-b80a-35c8f23d0f27/granite-flats
Just completed a 7 car k-line train set. It is from the seventies when they used diesel power.. The color is dark green with yellow accents.I am just learning about the great history.
Love the modeling, and the history of trains. A great hobby for sure!!!!
Thanks.
Good place to go rail karting
If they would let you. They know only no.
These people are like it used to be when riding through the country. Family would just talk and take in the sites.
Im wanting to do a layout of the line between the mine and the smelter it serviced. Though they only used electric/diesel electric , but on my layout i want steamers. So thats really the only change im going to make....when it eventually gets off the ground
COOL!!!
It'll be a small layout as I dont have much space but i have a rough idea of what itll look like. And your video helped out alot, so thank you.
It's really amazing how far technology has come in n a short 100 years. Glad some of the history is still left unburied by modernization
Think of just what the internal combustion engine changed. Reshaped all cities, made posable flight, totally altered war. One little thing. Wild world....
Do the tracks still connect to the US rail network?
Yes!! At the smelter is a large yard on the UP main line, which was the old WP and Salt Lake and Los Angles. Finished copper is shipped from there but mostly millions of gallons of sulfuric acid. The scrubbers on the smelter remove sulfur dioxide as sulfuric. They are so good a capturing pollutants that the huge 1200 foot stack is not even used anymore.
Fascinating.
Have you ever thought of calling the mine and smelter and asked for a tour? Also ask if you could take video and post it here?
Was the little subdivision called April Acres?
Don’t know
Is this the Northern end of the Nevada Northern?? Beautiful!
Where is this, what state? Have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Very interesting...the company town that survived...and the mine is still productive. Makes you wonder where the jobs will come from when automation takes over like it has here. :) Jack
No kidding!! about 22,000 people, now 1200. Less all the time, yet more copper coming out. Most of the jobs lost in America have not gone to other countries, but lost to modernization AND moving to other states.
Damn right! And wait until those robots come in! Never sick, always obedient, non-unionized, never arguing for a rise... That'll hurt. But we're getting increasingly closer to that time.
I need to find a wife who likes trains. The woman from a relationship that failed a year ago had no idea that there were railfans. She’s a smart woman but she had no clue. I sure do miss her and I love her so much it hurts.
you guys should build a rail kart and screw around on abandon railroads
HAd a speeder years ago but could not use it much, so sold it.
Gentlemen, I must know what train horn specifically is making the noise at 4:45. I always hear that horn only through mp3 and would like to know what hourn sound that is.
It's from a sound library called Sound Ideas. No idea where they got it. Many of the sounds I use I record, but we have like 20K sounds bought from them.
It would probably be safe to drive a speeder down that line, imagine how fast you could go!
Where is this?
Have you watched the movie Desert Empire Rio Grande started the Rio Tinto mine in Copperton. Although they shut down the yard in Copperton the railroad still leaves from the smelter in Magna and and interchanges them to Savage and Garfield. Savage and Garfield text to cars to Midville yard where they are interchanged to Utah Rail and Utah Central. Utah rail takes the cars going out on the BNSF to Provo yard and also to the mill at Geneva where the copper is processed. The cars going out on the Union Pacific are taken to the Roper yard or to Ogden where they are used locally on the Utah Central and go to Freeport or in the case of the cars of acid taken to Pocatello where they are either deliver to the Simplot plant or taken to Soda Springs and delivered to local mines and chemical plants.
Love that old film!! The mine part is on the playlist here.
Toy Man Television I'll watch that
some day soon as soon as i win the lottery this railroad will become a operating tourist museum. with steam diesel and electric locomotives and rail speeders and rail trucks
Joey, I am with you on that one. I hope you win soon so I can see it built.
+18k subs since the last time i was here
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If you find an abandon railroad, can you claim it for your own use?
Well now speaking from a legal point of view, yes. Sort of. But most of these railroads are not technically abandoned, just taken out of service. Another words yeah they’re abandoned. Just not legally.
@@ToyManTelevision I would love to find one in my state, restore and live in it and build a huge train layout to share with the world.
At 6:17 looks like Yoda from Star Wars is sitting on the house being bored
It is. He is not trying. He is doing!
What kind of locomotive is that yellow one (appears to be Omaha Track #707) at 3:35? It looks like a gp38 to me, but I don't recognise that cab.
Hope someone out there knows... Modern units and I don't get along. F 9 I get. GP 7. Steam!!!!! But clueless on the modern stuff.
The cabs were modified so the engineers could see over the ore cars.
AND I have been "working" inside a covered wagon. HEAT!!! DARK!!! Give me the walkway anytime!!
Thanks Frank Knodel! Never knew something like that existed!
that'd be a fun to run on the tracks with a handcar or a Speeder hehe
If they would let anyone in. Planning to go back with a drone!!
well I would get permission & sign a waiver too
Wish we could!!
Think we will go for the drone...
Check the laws on drone flight over private property.
This was posted on my b day
I for have no stinking idea what state or region there of you are talking about.Its seems a lot of people make their videos leave the viewer in the fog as to the filming location could you add that information please?
Hi. Sorry. It’s right in Salt Lake City Utah. On the west side of the valley. The Bingham mine.
WATH STATE IS COPPERTON IN ?
Each time they abandon a rail line, it means more trucks on our highways, carrying freight that trains would otherwise carry.
What are the white letters on the hills/ mounds represent?
B for Bingham, was for the town, but now for the valleys biggest and newest high school, Bingham High. The C is for Cypress. Cypress High, the valleys smallest high school in Magna. Many of the mill and smelter people were Greek, many from Cypress.
10-4: Gotchya
We spell it 'Cyprus' though.
You guys probably dropped the last L from Angell!!
In my hometown Magna, yes. But where I live in Boston now, no. lol Some of this footage looks like it is almost right behind my Mother's house in Magna, kind of strange!
Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but its not entirely accurate to refer to electric engines as "locomotives." The word locomotive has self-propelled connotations to it and an electric engine is powerless without an outside power source--IE an overhead wire for electricity. A steam engine or a diesel engine can be considered true locomotives as they are self-propelled. But its not accurate to call them "electric locomotives."
@@markjohnson4924 thanks! So… call them what? Motor?
@@ToyManTelevision Motor is good or engine. 🙂
many of the locomotives will be restored to operating condition and freight cars and passenger coaches and cabooses. and other equipment
Would be awesome to make personal railcart, and ride that track!
Kenncott would kill you and then arrest the dead body and then sue your family. They don’t know how to have fun.
Thank you Hope you guys listen to KRCL...Great Job now go to Patts BBQ and get a nice meal.You guys worked hard.Great video...73s
We DO!!!!
Hi,notto tell you you're Job but do you think maybe a Drone could help you with your stories? You very savvy and Drones are very user friendly. Sounds like you have grandkids it's a no brainer.
Hi. Yes, been thinking about that. We had use of a drone when we were in LA filming the harbor. WOW!! A friend has 2 of them and we were using those. th-cam.com/video/Nz7Kr3v01MQ/w-d-xo.html Flew out to the ships and even in the docks. Usually a drone would not help us, but on this show it would have been great. So yes. Planning on getting one.
the track doesnt look too bad
CT Area Railfan hi. No it’s great! They keep most of it in “good” repair. I guess they feel they may have use of it again? Not to the inside of the pit but the new mill is a few hundred yards fro the main so... who knows?
@@ToyManTelevision I wouldn't doubt it. I've seen active railroads with MUCH worse tracks. Looks as if a train would derail if it went over 10mph
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Thank you, Vary Interesting........
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Fun day out! Old memories....
I go out of my way thousands of miles when I can to search out and feel thous Old Priceless memories........
Actually, in one of these searches I discovered that I played on a dock that the Pan Am Clipper docks at AND Charles Lindberg once arrived at and walked on...
WOW. And YES!! Love that sort of thing. Even just walking on the land... In collage I went to the grave of Beethoven in Vienna. Just to stand on the land. Makes the history real...
People like us can feel the history thru out bones, ears ect.
Half mile behind my current home there was the grade crossing of the WB&E (Wilkes Barre and Eastern). Often I catch my self listening for the tune of the per grade crossing whistle still....... :)
I love the look of abandoned track and grade. Old buildings... Just looks great, for some reason.
The western railway museum owns three electric trains from the Kennecott
Indeed!! Did you see the show on that museum??
My mind is having trouble computing the sheer amout of track that used to exist in that mine. THERE'S something I'd like to see in a simulator!
AND all of it under trolley wire! In the mine they used movable towers wit trolley wire, in Copperton and on the line between the lower canyon and Copperton, they had catenary. The trolley wire was (as I recall so totally wrong) 600 volts, the main line 3000 volts. They would let go of the trolley wire and grab the 3000 volt wire and BANG!! Sparks, looked and sounded like fireworks. I loved that.
Watched you since Big Boy resto, was "thought" about. Haven't seen you in awhile, so hit like, & subscribe. Hope that will help.
Hi. We were planning a trip to see big boy and then along came Covid and everything got derailed. But it’s still there in the locomotive still there and pretty soon we will get back up there
You should follow the tracks with a quadcopter.
May just bag one soon. We used one for the Port of Los Angles and Barstow. Friends setup, but wow!!!!
Sounds like a place for an excursion railroad
That would be great if Kennecott would ever go along.
the rail line is now severed over U-111 they widened the highway a few years ago and removed the bridge. don't even think of rail speeders if Kennecot catches you, you will wish you were playing on the U.P. rail line instead... most of the rail is NOT serviceable and is buried.
The old main would be a great excursion railroad
Kennecott will never..... They are funny about these things. AND they think thy may want to use it again for the mine.
I'm sure the railroad did like every railroad has done. It priced it's self out of business. They bring in new young college grads with zero experience and let them run the show.
i wish i could buy that railroad
Amazing it's still there! I guess they think at some point they may need it again,
Kennecott - now that's in Utah if I'm correct ...
YUP!!
The railroad was used until 2001 not 1995, I worked on the railroad for 30 years.
There is so much often wrong information out there. oops.
You just celebrated a B-Day so you can squeak by with a little "inaccuracy." :)
Senior moments. Anyway, always a better story. Imagine if Star Wars was historically accurate. Boring.
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+Toy Man Television → Since you were WRONG about the tracks, I think at 0:38 in the video you should have said "...the scene of the SCREWING UP."
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Yup. Nice to see I was wrong!!
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good video but two people taking at the same time makes it hard to understand
And a cafeteria so the worker's dont waste gas to go and get lunch. and. the best working conditions anyone would want. because that is the biggest dream i have ether restoring the steam locomotives or becoming a railroad engineer those have been my dreams since i was a child of the 90 s decade and recently found out that in a pass life i was a railroad engineer. and there's no way im letting the current decade turn these locomotives into bed springs or Toyotas or slinkys. i always wondered why i could not for the life of me get my metal slinky down the steps
I'm still trying to get one going on the escalator at the mall. Perpetual motion machine. Sort of. Security keeps kicking us out. Don't they realize the importance of our research??
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We used one at the port of Los Angeles. Friend has two. Scared the crap out of me!!! Keep seeing 3K crashing into the Pacific. Smart toy though. Smarter than me.
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I guess it's the high plains desert climate that keeps the tracks looking like someone just walked away from them. Thanks for the clarification and, the re-due. Well done as always. "Picture it !" "I'm sitting here, late afternoon, watching my two favorite 'wild and crazy guys' and I fell asleep. Really." The chair is not that comfy and the subject matter was right up my alley. Just knocked off. So sorry. On the re-play you did have a nifty Harry and David commercial, though. Oh Nuts! LOL !. Carry on with further pursuit of, screwing around.. Until next week.
I used to put my students to sleep too. Thought about selling that as a service. If Michael Jackson had had me put him to sleep he would still be alive!!
Let me guess you live in Utah
As of now, yes!!
they need to start a tourist rail road lol
If it's fun, count them OUT. Can't even get them to open a gate. The CEO is quoted as saying "fun, hum... never heard of that. I will Google it when I find the time".
just tell him it will make money being a tourist rail road
Someday they will close the mine. May be sooner than later if they can't figure out how to expand the pit without in caving in anymore. Then I'll bet it would be used that way. If the railroad is still there.
tourists...and work.
This isn't Alaska.
I need to find this on google earth.....
Ride a rail bike on the tracks.
Sure would like to put a speeder on it.🤔🤔🤔
They won’t even let us inside the fence! Or fly a drone. But what they don’t see...
brouight to you by...monster trucks on behalf of road trains.
Yup......
Here is the mine by sattelite....I think is is awesome as a model railroader.....www.google.com/maps/@40.5609907,-112.1128444,1140m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
Looks like you found it!!! Look at how 58 just vanishes under the man made mountain.....