I think they planned to have the spear be a sword. Hence the profile, barrel placement and the shield. But someone wanted a spear instead of the sword, maybe because of the blade champion or maybe the sword was too clunky with the heavy weapon.
I agree with pretty much all of your points, especially the spear and his pose, but the helmet to me is less of an issue because it is similar to the blade champion but a bit more ornate.
Feel like you could lengthen his legs and torso some around his big belt/skirt line, and it would probably make him look alot better. It would hopefully stay hidden while letting him keep pose, but not look like a squat.
Also one thing I don't like is that he wears less armour than a normal custodian guard and the armour he does have is less detailed... To me he looks more like a custodian scout than a captain. For the jumppack and biker guys the less armour makes sense because they need to reduce weight and the blade champion is also kind of sort of understandable as he needs to move quick or something, but for the shield captain i dont see why he would choose to wear this armour.
as someone who designs custom custode I gotta say fuck the knee pads, The helmet is another case of a modified asset see in the case terminator or blade champ. the poor chest plate is the saddest part that ornaments look just plain bad. I'm a be honest it feel like a minotaur fan made this model no offence minotaur fans but I'm sure you'll all just convert this guy into a primaris Asterion Moloc. it's not a bad model it's just got a lot of problems. I overall am hopping to see what the HH has to offer custode fans and I also hope that they start pulling from old art in making new custodes and or sisters.
AoS miniature designs are going through the roof when it comes to quality (for the most part). For some reason they can't seem to do the same with 40k. Sometimes they seem to have difficulty following their own lore and aesthetic designs for certain factions. It seems they have either an idiot, someone that doesn't care about things making sense or both, in charge of greenlighting models.
Right? AOS miniatures are gorgeous. I'm constantly blown away by their creativity and quality. But with 40k, it seems like they're just copy pasting and/or completely changing things in an attempt to make it unique.
I was actually one of the five people who thought this guy looked nice. Your points on how it contradicts a lot of established Custodes conventions convinced me that I should instead kitbash this guy with Trajann Valoris and a warden to make Kitten, then use the head for a termie captain. The model initially gave me Blade Champion vibes, but I honestly now think it falls rather short.
Something to add is the shins/calf armor kinda look like stormcast rather than the usual normal custodian plate And even with the argument of "they needed to do something unique to release with the codex" there is the sisters of silence literally starving with 1.5 plastic kits...
Yeah. It makes me think, is the Imperium running out of Auramite? Because when did Custodes start wearing so much leather and cloth. And the Sisters definitely need new kits, I agree. A new cool HQ like Jenetia Krole but for 40k.
The model looks like it started out as a Stormcast Eternal. I feel like I could make a better model using a Warden body, 1-handed Pyrithite Spear bit and a shield from the Guard box. Only thing missing would be the crest on the back, which admittedly is pretty cool.
Uuu, l just noticed that the shield is part of the cloak and shoulder pad. It does really feel as if someone had a Minotaur Space Marine model in mind and snuck him in as a custodes. For example the imperial ][ on the legs. It is not what custodes have on their stuff, but the Minotaurs a chapter directed by the High Lords very much do.
End of the day? Worthless reveal. We already had shield captains. They created one for a FW guard model which no one really cares about or runs. There was no logical reason to make this unless more is going to follow with the codex to compliment. And good lord the proportions. They are close to 9ft tall without their helmet on... This looks like he is 5'4 and needing help getting the cookie jar in the cabinet. Just meh.
I like the combination of shield and spear but I hoped for something else when they wanted to release something for custodes. We got Characters but we need some other options, like squats or a lone operative. I imagined my custodes more like warriors with roman aesthetics so the feathers on the back look a littleweird to me, too.
Maybe he's just a really small Custodian with small-man-syndrome. He's probably always trying to boss the other Custodes around, pointing at stuff with his spear but they just ignore hm and wish he'd shut up and leave them alone.
I like the model, maybe a little less after this video lol. But they're some great points you made. I like the pose though, it's more dynamic, and not necessarily leading, but maybe thrusting his spear or about to shoot the meltagun. That shield and cape look connected, so could be a pain to replace.
@@billlumburg7594 take a warden with a cloak. Give him a pyrite spear and the sword arm from a custodes guard (if you like the esthethic) or the jump boys shield (if you want something closer to the original). You can give gim a biker or blade champion helmet, if you want a more fancy plum.
Looks more like Asterion Moloch, than a custodes… I thought custodes where supposed to be taller and more slim than a space marines… So this guys portions definitely seem off
You have a lot of valid points. Personally I don't hate the miniature, in a lot of ways it looks cool and I appreciate it not being just another custodes. There is one part I do hate though and that's the crest. It looks dumb and it just seems way out of place.
I was gonna buy the new box set for this model alone, but now I'm gonna pass. I think i can make a better looking shield captain with a normal shield and pyrithite spear.
I don't think custodes should have different armor among their normal ranks. Different accoutrements are great, but if the ten thousand are the best and have all the best stuff, they should all use the same stuff. My custodes use normal guard and wardens for blade champions and the normal helmet for sagitarum because of that. I gave the blade champions two swords that are painted differently than my normal guard and the gunstodes have guns, so you can differentiate them just fine. But more capes and stuff, a different shield for the captains, maybe different pauldrons? Orororororor, we accept that the infantry is okay and GW makes the cool terminators plastic finally. Orororororor non custodian infantry, ie an infiltrator/scout equivalent. The emperor told kitten to get the custodes out there doing work and no one has thrown on a set of phobos armor for some reason?
was looking forward to the new box but honestly looking at it now it's an easy pass for me ... might pick up the new captain separately sometime in the future if possible
They should sell the Captain separately initially but they just want to get as much money as possible by putting together these bundles. It's so weird.
This whole release is a joke. Custodes needed to get either the forge world range in plastic or some proper sisters of silence units that is a part of the army instead of a side thing not covered by any of the detachment or army rules. Instead we are left with what is in reality 4 valid units, plus officers, and the bikes are crap in-game atm. Leaves us choosing between guard, wardens and allerus, or sinking all your money into forge world units
My problem mostly because he is shap . Is to bulky and space marine like not like custodes can't be bulky . If this was a terminator no problem. But he I a standard looking custodian he most be big but also look very sharp and quick in movement. Also on realty it is not very short but good dam it not showing it at all. Overall this model more like fitt with s.p that of custodes
I mean, it's not a perfect mini. It looks a bit short and all of that. But, I particularly dislike the complaining about that it looks different from other custodes. Do you want characters that look exactly the same? I don't understand, I don't want my custodes being completeley different from one another either but I want to tell characters apart from infantry (just having a cape its boring). It looks to me that people are just being mean and pissy because it's not what they wanted. Not trying to invalidate other people opinions, but come on guys, chill out with the complaining.
Also this: as a one army 40k player, custodes, I don't really need more miles wardens etc.. but gw makes a new model and makes you buy a big box to get him as early as possible. I would be down to buy the box even though I really don't need much of it rn, but now after seeing the model it's an easy pass. The model doesn't look good at all, I could make a way better looking shield captain with pyrithite spear and regular shield. Lots of people will buy it for sure, but not me. In short they failed to make a cool, desirable model that would draw me into making a larger purchase to have the model asap. And now we have this stupid model as part of our range. He just doesn't look like a Custodian, and why would I buy that?
Looks like a votann cosplaying as a custodes that forgot the crest on helmet so smacked a broom handle on the back of his armour to call it a day. The arms look glued on wrong Also the crest on his belt is so fuck off over sized it makes the wrest of him look like he is wearing his fathers belt 😂
I don’t see why you’d need to it’ll probably cost 2/3s of the price of getting a box of guards and the upgrade kit. You’d get everything to make him in that aswell as four melta guard to deepstrike. If he does turn out to be amazing then going this was would be easier too since you just need to get an extra few capes to get three of him on the table top.
The crest and the proportions and the squat stance make him look like a Votann rather than a Custodian.
one of the worst reveals of all time. especially considering theres a cooler version of him already... Asterion Moloc
I think they planned to have the spear be a sword. Hence the profile, barrel placement and the shield. But someone wanted a spear instead of the sword, maybe because of the blade champion or maybe the sword was too clunky with the heavy weapon.
This miniature has the same proportions as a Squat! I think some Votann snuck in the Custodes program and this is the result 😂
I agree with pretty much all of your points, especially the spear and his pose, but the helmet to me is less of an issue because it is similar to the blade champion but a bit more ornate.
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Feel like you could lengthen his legs and torso some around his big belt/skirt line, and it would probably make him look alot better. It would hopefully stay hidden while letting him keep pose, but not look like a squat.
Also one thing I don't like is that he wears less armour than a normal custodian guard and the armour he does have is less detailed... To me he looks more like a custodian scout than a captain.
For the jumppack and biker guys the less armour makes sense because they need to reduce weight and the blade champion is also kind of sort of understandable as he needs to move quick or something, but for the shield captain i dont see why he would choose to wear this armour.
Right? That's so weird to see him wearing leather boots and so much cloth. Terra must be running out of Auramite
as someone who designs custom custode I gotta say fuck the knee pads, The helmet is another case of a modified asset see in the case terminator or blade champ. the poor chest plate is the saddest part that ornaments look just plain bad. I'm a be honest it feel like a minotaur fan made this model no offence minotaur fans but I'm sure you'll all just convert this guy into a primaris Asterion Moloc. it's not a bad model it's just got a lot of problems. I overall am hopping to see what the HH has to offer custode fans and I also hope that they start pulling from old art in making new custodes and or sisters.
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I also dislike how this "defensive powerhouse" or whatever they went for isn't wearing a full set of their armor. Their arms and thighs are exposed
Plate mail was made so you didn’t need to carry a shield. Using a shield means you can cut back on armour.
@@dittmar104I know that’s how it works in real life, but when has that stopped 40K?
AoS miniature designs are going through the roof when it comes to quality (for the most part). For some reason they can't seem to do the same with 40k.
Sometimes they seem to have difficulty following their own lore and aesthetic designs for certain factions.
It seems they have either an idiot, someone that doesn't care about things making sense or both, in charge of greenlighting models.
Right? AOS miniatures are gorgeous. I'm constantly blown away by their creativity and quality. But with 40k, it seems like they're just copy pasting and/or completely changing things in an attempt to make it unique.
I was actually one of the five people who thought this guy looked nice. Your points on how it contradicts a lot of established Custodes conventions convinced me that I should instead kitbash this guy with Trajann Valoris and a warden to make Kitten, then use the head for a termie captain.
The model initially gave me Blade Champion vibes, but I honestly now think it falls rather short.
Something to add is the shins/calf armor kinda look like stormcast rather than the usual normal custodian plate
And even with the argument of "they needed to do something unique to release with the codex" there is the sisters of silence literally starving with 1.5 plastic kits...
Yeah. It makes me think, is the Imperium running out of Auramite? Because when did Custodes start wearing so much leather and cloth.
And the Sisters definitely need new kits, I agree. A new cool HQ like Jenetia Krole but for 40k.
The model looks like it started out as a Stormcast Eternal. I feel like I could make a better model using a Warden body, 1-handed Pyrithite Spear bit and a shield from the Guard box. Only thing missing would be the crest on the back, which admittedly is pretty cool.
Uuu, l just noticed that the shield is part of the cloak and shoulder pad. It does really feel as if someone had a Minotaur Space Marine model in mind and snuck him in as a custodes. For example the imperial ][ on the legs. It is not what custodes have on their stuff, but the Minotaurs a chapter directed by the High Lords very much do.
End of the day? Worthless reveal. We already had shield captains. They created one for a FW guard model which no one really cares about or runs. There was no logical reason to make this unless more is going to follow with the codex to compliment. And good lord the proportions. They are close to 9ft tall without their helmet on... This looks like he is 5'4 and needing help getting the cookie jar in the cabinet. Just meh.
He is literally a stormcast combined with a squat
If they give the captain the ability to take a pyro shield and spear I hope they give the Pyro spear custodian guard the ability to do so.
I like the combination of shield and spear but I hoped for something else when they wanted to release something for custodes. We got Characters but we need some other options, like squats or a lone operative.
I imagined my custodes more like warriors with roman aesthetics so the feathers on the back look a littleweird to me, too.
This video made me actually like the custodes captain more. I didn't notice the crest and that design aspect I find an interesting reference.
I'm glad! Not liking it is just my opinion, but I'm glad I pointed out a detail that actually makes you like it more.
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Maybe he's just a really small Custodian with small-man-syndrome.
He's probably always trying to boss the other Custodes around, pointing at stuff with his spear but they just ignore hm and wish he'd shut up and leave them alone.
I like itm crest, stance, how hes holding spear. But i Agree with most of what you say
The spear definitely hit me immediately as odd. It doesn't look like it can stab anything.
Compared to someone like Ixion Hale its a poor attempt. I think you nailed it about the pose. He's trying too hard to command.
I like the model, maybe a little less after this video lol. But they're some great points you made. I like the pose though, it's more dynamic, and not necessarily leading, but maybe thrusting his spear or about to shoot the meltagun. That shield and cape look connected, so could be a pain to replace.
The credt is my biggest pet peeve
I agree but also can’t wait to get one
That's valid! Will you be keeping it as is, or will you be converting/kitbashing?
I will wait a bit to see how others are modifying and will look to kitbash a little. At least to make him taller
@@billlumburg7594 take a warden with a cloak. Give him a pyrite spear and the sword arm from a custodes guard (if you like the esthethic) or the jump boys shield (if you want something closer to the original). You can give gim a biker or blade champion helmet, if you want a more fancy plum.
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Looks more like Asterion Moloch, than a custodes…
I thought custodes where supposed to be taller and more slim than a space marines…
So this guys portions definitely seem off
You have a lot of valid points. Personally I don't hate the miniature, in a lot of ways it looks cool and I appreciate it not being just another custodes. There is one part I do hate though and that's the crest. It looks dumb and it just seems way out of place.
This is a derpy miniature
To me. He looks too squared and chunky. I don't play Custodes, so I'll have to take your knowledge of them for what it is. More than mine. :)
I was gonna buy the new box set for this model alone, but now I'm gonna pass. I think i can make a better looking shield captain with a normal shield and pyrithite spear.
I don't think custodes should have different armor among their normal ranks. Different accoutrements are great, but if the ten thousand are the best and have all the best stuff, they should all use the same stuff. My custodes use normal guard and wardens for blade champions and the normal helmet for sagitarum because of that. I gave the blade champions two swords that are painted differently than my normal guard and the gunstodes have guns, so you can differentiate them just fine. But more capes and stuff, a different shield for the captains, maybe different pauldrons? Orororororor, we accept that the infantry is okay and GW makes the cool terminators plastic finally. Orororororor non custodian infantry, ie an infiltrator/scout equivalent. The emperor told kitten to get the custodes out there doing work and no one has thrown on a set of phobos armor for some reason?
was looking forward to the new box but honestly looking at it now it's an easy pass for me ... might pick up the new captain separately sometime in the future if possible
They should sell the Captain separately initially but they just want to get as much money as possible by putting together these bundles. It's so weird.
@@inquisitorvulnfor sure, which I wouldn't mind if the box included the new codex and didn't have 6 bikes :D
This whole release is a joke. Custodes needed to get either the forge world range in plastic or some proper sisters of silence units that is a part of the army instead of a side thing not covered by any of the detachment or army rules. Instead we are left with what is in reality 4 valid units, plus officers, and the bikes are crap in-game atm. Leaves us choosing between guard, wardens and allerus, or sinking all your money into forge world units
My problem mostly because he is shap . Is to bulky and space marine like not like custodes can't be bulky . If this was a terminator no problem. But he I a standard looking custodian he most be big but also look very sharp and quick in movement. Also on realty it is not very short but good dam it not showing it at all. Overall this model more like fitt with s.p that of custodes
Yep, it's crap.
He looks like a greek hoplite, I love it
I mean, it's not a perfect mini. It looks a bit short and all of that. But, I particularly dislike the complaining about that it looks different from other custodes. Do you want characters that look exactly the same? I don't understand, I don't want my custodes being completeley different from one another either but I want to tell characters apart from infantry (just having a cape its boring). It looks to me that people are just being mean and pissy because it's not what they wanted. Not trying to invalidate other people opinions, but come on guys, chill out with the complaining.
Its called Criticism.
Also this: as a one army 40k player, custodes, I don't really need more miles wardens etc.. but gw makes a new model and makes you buy a big box to get him as early as possible. I would be down to buy the box even though I really don't need much of it rn, but now after seeing the model it's an easy pass. The model doesn't look good at all, I could make a way better looking shield captain with pyrithite spear and regular shield. Lots of people will buy it for sure, but not me.
In short they failed to make a cool, desirable model that would draw me into making a larger purchase to have the model asap. And now we have this stupid model as part of our range. He just doesn't look like a Custodian, and why would I buy that?
Looks like a votann cosplaying as a custodes that forgot the crest on helmet so smacked a broom handle on the back of his armour to call it a day. The arms look glued on wrong Also the crest on his belt is so fuck off over sized it makes the wrest of him look like he is wearing his fathers belt 😂
i actually like the figure
Completely valid! I'm just being critical of it
you know, I hear everyone's complaints but, you're still going to buy it I know you are ,don't lie
I don’t see why you’d need to it’ll probably cost 2/3s of the price of getting a box of guards and the upgrade kit. You’d get everything to make him in that aswell as four melta guard to deepstrike. If he does turn out to be amazing then going this was would be easier too since you just need to get an extra few capes to get three of him on the table top.
I don't need 6 bikes, nor more wardens, and I already have 12 Terminators, 6 spears 6 axes plus shield captain and 1 vex