Heck yeah man! I commented on a video of yours 2 weeks ago suggesting water primes and little tricks for pumping downhill which I do here line pumping here in California. You told me you would try a video on water priming in 2 weeks...sure enough, you upload this video exactly when you said you would. Canadian Concrete Pumper is the real deal! Concrete pumpers worldwide 💪
In Poland we only prime it with water, gogles half filled with water and start pumping. Then 10 sec later honk the driver to start pouring concrete, works everytime
It doesn’t matter what you prime the pump with. As long as it gets from point A (hopper) to point B (end of hose) that’s all that matters. As long as it’s done in a safe manner.
I water prime as well but I don’t start pumping until the mud is above the agitator bar. I position the chute so that the concrete pushes the water up the cylinder first, I let the hopper get almost full then pump away at half volume.
We have certain pumps which I’m very confident in water priming (assuming I’m the last one who had it out previously) and others which can be a real battle. Definitely cheap insurance using a bit of primer though.
Used to water prime a 52m R&F in British Columbia everyday, no oil in the hopper. No stroking when concrete is being poured in initially, would push the water right into the cylinder fill it up and go. The mixes are much better on that side of the country. I would never try that in Ontario 😂 Not even on a 20m lol
We’ve good results priming our booms up to 47M with just water. Our 56Z is decent with just h2o. Our 58Z is an absolute nightmare trying to water-prime. They each have their own, “unique” personality. 😂😂😂
Getting lucky priming with it stroking all it takes is for the cylinders to load half way the you have water concrete water. Best way pump your water stop it so the open side piston is at the hopper fill the hopper past the agitator bar and pump on.
Same way I prefer to do it. I will say that I think we get away with a lot in our area due to the forgiving nature of our materials. Works well for these guys however, so I can’t say too much. 😁😁😁
I’m not going to lie, I’ll occasionally throw a little oil in my prime port with the water when releasing the air in the oiler. There is something about it that works. I’ve done it when I hop in my coworkers 47. That is when he hasn’t restocked the slick pack.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 it doesn’t mix with the water say like bentonite or slick. Kind of just sits at the top of that water. Similar to cooking pasta in a pot, boiling water then adding oil so the pasta doesn’t stick. All that oil rises to the top.
redimix grout at 5inch slump max for horizontal line.....up has to be wet...down has to be wet but with a stopper in middle of line....slick packs work well....but i cant reveal how i work it
@@MaxCrete I’ve had good results using slick-prime on the boom pumps, and nothing but abysmal failure trying to use it for priming any amount of horizontal rubber. Don’t be a Scrooge, share the secret!!! 😁😁😁😁
To much water, I use a priming port with about 4 gallons of water (no form oil gets mixed with my water). When I’ve tried to use more I plug. But the biggest we have is a 50m
I tend to agree. I believe that using the prime-port (for those whom have them) allows for using less primer and contaminating less of the initial concrete which comes through the boom.
I'm just a concrete finisher form setter whatever primes out the pump the easiest the quickest and get the four started and get it done and go home how about that eh
What an absolute chancer using just water. 😏 didn’t even stop svalve to allow concrete to push water up cylinder. All this is showing the young operators how to cut corners something you don’t do in our industry. And the old guy holding the flex best way to get his head blown off if it had of blocked . We try to encourage stand back when priming out
It’s one of the most hotly contested topics in pumping (along with water-washing versus sucking a sponge). These guys pump a ton of mud, and it works for them. That being said, I’ll probably stick to priming with my bentonite and/or kick start, but always good to see how others do things. Agreed, the “old guy” 😂😂😂 probably could have stayed away from that hose for few more seconds, but they also aren’t priming through at volume 10, and also do shut the pump off once that first bit of mud can be heard tinkling down the pipes. All that being said, 100% better just to stand away from that hose when priming through. It only takes that one time to change a life.
I’ve been in the industry 32 years and seen how easy it is to get in trouble with these machines. One of the main things in these days with younger operators is that the pumps will pump anything, years ago with old putzmiester if concrete was sh@t you would in reverse more than forward 😏😂
@@hunterclarot142 I can feel a water prime versus bentonite/slick-pack prime debate brewing!!!! Perfect timing for my Saturday evening. I’ll grab the beer and pretzels. 😂😂😂
Heck yeah man! I commented on a video of yours 2 weeks ago suggesting water primes and little tricks for pumping downhill which I do here line pumping here in California. You told me you would try a video on water priming in 2 weeks...sure enough, you upload this video exactly when you said you would. Canadian Concrete Pumper is the real deal! Concrete pumpers worldwide 💪
Finally, some support from the comments section with regards to water-priming! 😂😂😂
You’re welcome brother 🙏🙏🙏
That's how we do it in AZ baby.
Don't doubt yourself Scott... You are a professional through and through when it comes to Concrete Pumping.
Appreciate that brother. We try our best, but are always willing and open to learning from others in our industry. 🙏🙏🙏
In Poland we only prime it with water, gogles half filled with water and start pumping. Then 10 sec later honk the driver to start pouring concrete, works everytime
Gonna do it the Thompson way fill the flapper box. I used to run an old Thompson with the flapper when was the last time you saw a Thompson?
First pump I ran 740 Thompson then went to a 465 5 inch pipe never got the top of pipe wet!
Scott you already know! I prime a 50m with water all day every day!
Yup, our 47M and 56M prime no problemo with just agua, but our 58M is an absolute battle, for whatever reason.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 can't wait to see you get your Liebherr!!
It doesn’t matter what you prime the pump with. As long as it gets from point A (hopper) to point B (end of hose) that’s all that matters. As long as it’s done in a safe manner.
I water prime as well but I don’t start pumping until the mud is above the agitator bar. I position the chute so that the concrete pushes the water up the cylinder first, I let the hopper get almost full then pump away at half volume.
Similar to the way I do it as well.
The most important part is that your pipes are cleaned. I always start pumping before they start to put concrete in the hopper.
That 40m is smooth, my buddy got one about 6 months ago.
Always taking a chance water priming especially your first job of the day!
We have certain pumps which I’m very confident in water priming (assuming I’m the last one who had it out previously) and others which can be a real battle. Definitely cheap insurance using a bit of primer though.
I’ll take peace of mind any day!
Nah, been doing for 15 years with no problems.
Used to water prime a 52m R&F in British Columbia everyday, no oil in the hopper. No stroking when concrete is being poured in initially, would push the water right into the cylinder fill it up and go. The mixes are much better on that side of the country.
I would never try that in Ontario 😂
Not even on a 20m lol
We’ve good results priming our booms up to 47M with just water. Our 56Z is decent with just h2o. Our 58Z is an absolute nightmare trying to water-prime. They each have their own, “unique” personality. 😂😂😂
Getting lucky priming with it stroking all it takes is for the cylinders to load half way the you have water concrete water. Best way pump your water stop it so the open side piston is at the hopper fill the hopper past the agitator bar and pump on.
Same way I prefer to do it. I will say that I think we get away with a lot in our area due to the forgiving nature of our materials.
Works well for these guys however, so I can’t say too much. 😁😁😁
I’m not going to lie, I’ll occasionally throw a little oil in my prime port with the water when releasing the air in the oiler. There is something about it that works. I’ve done it when I hop in my coworkers 47. That is when he hasn’t restocked the slick pack.
I honestly believe that the oil helps a good bit.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 it doesn’t mix with the water say like bentonite or slick. Kind of just sits at the top of that water. Similar to cooking pasta in a pot, boiling water then adding oil so the pasta doesn’t stick. All that oil rises to the top.
And we are in a water restriction in here az as well. All day long
loved the video😊 I allways prime in a z my self
in my area on a 21m pump it would plug at deck pipe with water... our stone sucks
What’s your preferred primer? We’ve used to use bentonite for decades, but have been seeing pretty good success with Kick Start gel primer lately.
redimix grout at 5inch slump max for horizontal line.....up has to be wet...down has to be wet but with a stopper in middle of line....slick packs work well....but i cant reveal how i work it
bentonite works well small line 200ft or does its job...4 inch line not so well
i like the live streams...keep it up 👍
@@MaxCrete I’ve had good results using slick-prime on the boom pumps, and nothing but abysmal failure trying to use it for priming any amount of horizontal rubber.
Don’t be a Scrooge, share the secret!!! 😁😁😁😁
To much water, I use a priming port with about 4 gallons of water (no form oil gets mixed with my water). When I’ve tried to use more I plug. But the biggest we have is a 50m
I tend to agree. I believe that using the prime-port (for those whom have them) allows for using less primer and contaminating less of the initial concrete which comes through the boom.
Is that 40m a 14 cell?
It sure is!!!! This Saturday’s video is all about that new 14 cell bang’N out the mud!!!!
What's the salary there
Im a primer guy, id be way to nervous with water priming.
I’ve seen your mud. Can’t blame ya! 😁
I only use water on my 58
Rite.... am a new to this and truth be told, that's the only way I was thought.
@@bluewiz6090 depends on where you work and aggregates they use. Florida uses crushed rock but still primes good on account of good “creme” content
I'm just a concrete finisher form setter whatever primes out the pump the easiest the quickest and get the four started and get it done and go home how about that eh
100% agreed! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Water priming is not for the weak 😂
I’ve got one coming up here in the next week or two where we water-primed (or at least attempted to) the line pump 😁
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 can’t wait for it man👍
What an absolute chancer using just water. 😏 didn’t even stop svalve to allow concrete to push water up cylinder. All this is showing the young operators how to cut corners something you don’t do in our industry. And the old guy holding the flex best way to get his head blown off if it had of blocked . We try to encourage stand back when priming out
It’s one of the most hotly contested topics in pumping (along with water-washing versus sucking a sponge). These guys pump a ton of mud, and it works for them. That being said, I’ll probably stick to priming with my bentonite and/or kick start, but always good to see how others do things.
Agreed, the “old guy” 😂😂😂 probably could have stayed away from that hose for few more seconds, but they also aren’t priming through at volume 10, and also do shut the pump off once that first bit of mud can be heard tinkling down the pipes. All that being said, 100% better just to stand away from that hose when priming through. It only takes that one time to change a life.
I’ve been in the industry 32 years and seen how easy it is to get in trouble with these machines. One of the main things in these days with younger operators is that the pumps will pump anything, years ago with old putzmiester if concrete was sh@t you would in reverse more than forward 😏😂
32 years in the industry and still cant prime with water
@@hunterclarot142 I can feel a water prime versus bentonite/slick-pack prime debate brewing!!!! Perfect timing for my Saturday evening. I’ll grab the beer and pretzels. 😂😂😂
Not a big fan of having someone spread the prime out. Grab the hose when your done priming.
1st 🤠👍
What’s up Cowboy!
@@MuddyfeetTV checking in on the fellas 👍🤠
I build these systems for a living welder/fabricator